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jdstrandhi!18:04
tyhicksHello18:04
sarnoldhello18:04
jdstrand#startmeeting18:04
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Nov 26 18:04:33 2012 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.18:04
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jdstrandThe meeting agenda can be found at:18:04
jdstrand[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting18:04
jdstrand[TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report18:04
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report
jdstrandI'll go first18:04
jdstrandI'm on community this week. thanks mdeslaur for covering for my at the end of last week18:05
mdeslaurnp, yw18:05
jdstrandI have a lynx-cur update I hope to push out this week and an embargoed issue18:05
jdstrandI also should be finishing my secure boot db/dbx updates package and work items for secure boot this week18:06
jdstrandI have patch piloting duties as well18:06
jdstrandthere are also some MIR audits to attend to. I'll probably pull in sarnold to help with some of those as well18:06
jdstrandmdeslaur: you're up18:06
mdeslaurI'm in the happy place this week18:07
mdeslaurI'm currently publishing libssh updates18:07
mdeslaurand will continue going down the never-ending CVE list18:07
mdeslaurthat's about it from me18:07
mdeslaursbeattie: you're up18:07
jdstrandwe're like the postoffice18:07
mdeslauryes, hopefully with less automatic weapons18:07
jdstrandthat said, we are in really good shape lately18:07
sbeattieI'm once again an apparmor monkey boy this week18:08
jdstrandbetter than we've been in a long time18:08
sbeattieheh18:08
sbeattieI'm still working on getting the prototype display manager patch into a state where we can start to play with it, and see what mediation abstractions fall out of it.18:09
sbeattieI'm also still trying to review jjohansen's patch bombs as well as clear out other miscellaneous apparmor stuff.18:09
sbeattiethat's it for me.18:09
sbeattiemicahg: you're up.18:09
micahgtrying to drive the webkit stable update to completion and trying to get some fresh chromium updates as well18:10
micahgwill also be keeping an eye out for mozilla point releases if they come along18:11
micahgtyhicks: you're up18:11
tyhicksI'm wrapping up my work for the ecryptfs-utils SRU this morning18:12
tyhicksThen I'll be looking at the dbus patches for apparmor to determine why I'm not able to mediate messages18:12
tyhicksThen, I'll be working more on the dbus prototype18:13
tyhicksThat's it18:13
tyhicksjjohansen: you're up18:13
jjohansenI will be fixing a couple known bugs in last weeks apparmor patch bomb, and finishing up the changes to the base labeling patches so I can drop another patch bomb this week18:13
jjohansenI think that is it from /me sarnold your up18:14
sarnoldI'm still working on the perl updates; the old packaging system and I didn't get along very well, but I think we've come to an understanding.18:14
sarnoldI've written tests for three of the CVEs in qrt; I want to take another look at them today and make sure they look reasonable before pushing18:15
mdeslaursarnold: have you agreed to disagree?18:15
sarnoldmdeslaur: yes.18:15
mdeslaurhehe18:15
sarnoldmdeslaur: and we're hoping that hardy and lucid go EOL before another perl update. :)18:15
mdeslaurhehe :)18:16
sarnold.. but since that never quite happens, I'll try to write up some notes on what I found, so the next time I need it, they'll be there.18:16
sarnoldI've also got to take a closer look at some qemu patches hallyn asked for our review of...18:17
sarnold.. and doko asked us to investigate some issues, I'll find out their status18:17
sarnolds/issues/gcc issues/18:17
mdeslaursarnold: ok, you can put your notes in $qrt/build_testing18:17
sarnoldmdeslaur: hrm, I thought there was a different path for the patching-and-building notes...18:18
jdstrand(or notes_testing/ - the distinction has grown extremely blurry-- we might consider merging them)18:18
mdeslauryeah, I'm always confused which is which18:19
jdstrandtraditionally build_testing/ has been notes on how to get you results/18:19
jdstrandwhereas notes_testing/ is the catch-all. I've probably not followed that myself-- it is a very fine hair18:19
sarnolduhoh, we lost the meeting bot.18:19
jdstrandanyhoo18:20
sarnoldI think that's it for me, jdstrand?18:20
jdstrandsarnold: did you have anything else to report?18:20
jdstrandcool18:20
jdstrand[TOPIC] Highlighted packages18:20
jdstrandThe Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.18:20
jdstrandSee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.18:21
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/mahara.html18:21
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/osc.html18:21
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libsmi.html18:21
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/icecast2.html18:21
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/wv2.html18:21
jdstrand[TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions18:21
jdstrandDoes anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?18:21
jdstrand#endmeeting18:29
jdstrandmdeslaur, sbeattie, micahg, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold: thanks!18:29
jjohansenthanks jdstrand18:29
sarnoldthanks jdstrand :)18:30
micahgjdstrand: thanks18:30
mdeslaurthanks jdstrand!18:31
sbeattiejdstrand: thanks!18:31
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pittihello21:00
pitticjwatson, kees, soren, stgraber, mdz: TB meeting?21:01
cjwatsonHere21:02
cjwatsonWe had an empty agenda when I looked earlier today, though21:02
pittiyeah, the only thing that catches my eye is the brainstorm review21:02
pittinothing techboard-ish in my mailbox apparently21:03
* stgraber waves21:03
pittiso for the brainstorm review, do you guys have some opinion whether we should continue this?21:05
pittifrom the last cycles that we actually did do, I found it moderately helpful21:05
mdzpitti, hi21:05
cjwatsonWell, I still think it's a good thing for us to do, but it's beginning to seem like a lost cause21:05
pittibut it seems to help less and less, with design being more institutionalized21:05
mdzI (still) think it is better to discontinue it explicitly than to allow it to be in limbo like this21:05
pittiI volunteer for doing this round, if we want to try another one21:06
pittiI think the last one was kind of started, but then just silently died21:06
cjwatsonMm, I found the non-design bits of the review I did more productive than the design bits21:06
pittiright, the part that I found useful was the reality check21:07
pittiin my last round I found that the majority of cases that users voted up were actually being handled already, but there were some gems which warranted a closer look21:07
pittiso, unless you guys have a strong opinion to close the lid on that one (doesn't seem so), I'll just have a go at it?21:08
* soren wanders in21:08
cjwatsonI don't see why you shouldn't have a go at it if you're keen21:09
pittiok, I'll add it as an action item them21:09
cjwatsonBut on the principle of setting achievable targets, it doesn't seem that it's a sensible thing for the TB to set itself, given that we generally seem to fail at it21:09
sorenpitti: I found it extremely difficult to figure out who I should assign each of the items to. Perhaps you, being more in touch with things than I, will do a better job.21:10
pittisoren: I was mostly asking appropriate people and TLs on IRC back then21:11
sorenThat's the thing. I hardly even know who the TLs and "appropriate people" are these days.21:11
pittiof course I know the desktop guys, but e. g. for server and kernel I asked Daviey and ogasawara about "who would be suitable to have a look at this"21:11
cjwatsonIs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams not up to date?21:12
pittiright, so maybe I'll have more luck; still depends on people actually responding21:12
sorencjwatson: Gosh. I didn't even know about that page :(21:12
cjwatsonIt's the third link in the body text off the front page :)21:12
cjwatsonMind you OMG horrible colours21:12
cjwatson(Can anyone actually read the contents of the "Team Name" column?)21:12
pittithe shape looks quite LCARish, just wrong colors21:13
pittiyeah, I can read it well, but it doesn't look that good21:13
sorencjwatson: Yeah, it's not too bad for me.21:13
sorencjwatson: Could be better for sure, but it's readable.21:13
cjwatsonpitti: LCAR> I had to look that up :)21:13
pittianyway, there are 0 community bugs and (from what I can see) zero pending ML issues, so that's it?21:13
pitticjwatson: LCARS, sorry21:13
pittihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda updated for next meeting and that action item21:16
pitticjwatson, soren, mdz, stgraber: anything else from you?21:16
cjwatsonI have nothing else21:17
sorenNope.21:17
pittithen good night everyone!21:17
stgrabernope21:18
soreno/21:18

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