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ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from sambagirl)01:09
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bazhang<anonymous_KIDZ> Ok Change topic07:41
bazhanghaxxor07:41
jussihe is funny, that one07:42
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ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1707 users, 3 overflows, 1710 limit))13:10
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1738 users, 3 overflows, 1741 limit))13:10
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1738 users, 3 overflows, 1741 limit))13:10
Mamaroksomething is wrong with FllodBot, it is behaving strangely in #k13:55
Mamarokanyone?14:03
ubottuIn ubottu, usr13 said: nikolam: Is this relevant?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/77709214:32
ubottullutz called the ops in #ubuntu (RyanC_  giving bad advices again)14:33
Picinikolam: can we help you?14:34
nikolamI would not like to stay here, since it is ops-only channel. Just would like to recover normal status on #ubuntu. I did not stopped talking/helping user about swap partition the same moment I was asked to.14:34
Picione moment.14:35
nikolamBut I stopped. Going away from this channel now?14:35
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Picinikolam: did you speak to bazhang about this?14:38
nikolamPici, thats it. And he said will last few days.14:39
PiciLet me see if I can summon him, as he didn't really leave enough notes on our ban tracker.14:41
nikolamPici, I don't think but maybe talk log will help how it progress to understand on my part.14:43
nikolamPici, maybe it is clever for me not to stay on ops channel. I will paste to you the talk.14:49
bazhangSnowhog] (~quassel@169-112-35-72.mtaonline.net): Paul,,,17:43
bazhangis he legit? in #kubuntu17:43
IdleOneis he identified?17:43
bazhang[Snowhog] is using a secure connection17:44
bazhangthats sasl I guess17:44
IdleOnelooks like the same info posted on the kubuntu forums17:44
Fuchsno, it isn't17:44
Fuchsit is SSL I guess ;p17:44
bazhangssl?17:44
bazhangheh sorry17:44
Fuchsyou don't see whether people use SASL or not17:44
bazhangyeah I use both, afaik17:44
bazhangruhroh18:20
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IdleOnethink I used a little too much eye of newt18:22
bazhanghehe18:26
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Picirackspace having an issue?19:30
tsimpson_I'm guessing so19:31
Jordan_U!ccsm22:05
ubot93To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' (or 'simple-ccsm' for pre-Oneiric). If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz22:05
Jordan_U!compiz22:05
ubot93Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz22:05
Jordan_UBoth point to #compiz, but #compiz's topic states "For unity support, please use ubuntu channels". Does that mean that they won't support anyone using Unity, or just that they will answer wobbly windows questions from Unity users, but not Unity specific questions?22:07
ikoniato be honest, if I was compiz, I'd not support unity22:17
ikoniait's canonicals plugin/platform22:17
AlanBellhmm, this is true22:20
AlanBellthey are mostly not interested with people running Unity22:21
MrChrisDruifThou I like where this is going (suggesting Ubuntu should move away from compiz as it's composition manager), this isn't the place to discuss that (I think at least)22:21
AlanBellI had a long discussion with them about the largedesktop dependency and dependency management22:22
AlanBellnot suggesting that at all MrChrisDruif, just whether we should point people with compiz questions in the direction of #compiz so readily22:22
MrChrisDruifWell, that would depend on what the question is about.22:23
AlanBellit would to an extent22:23
MrChrisDruifThose two factoids are about compiz and it's manager ccsm22:23
MrChrisDruifBut !unity ?22:23
MrChrisDruif!unity22:23
ubot93Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity22:24
MrChrisDruifLike I said, if the question is more unity related than compiz, well you know what I'd suggest. #ubuntu ofc22:25
MrChrisDruifHowever if it's more compiz related referring to #compiz would be best, thou I did hear rumors once that the "unity plugin" caused a lot of breakage with the rest of compiz.22:26
MrChrisDruifAnywho, I'm off to bed.22:26
ikoniaI don't think the majority of users of #ubuntu can measure up if it's an issue with compiz or unity for most issues22:34
ikoniamost that I actually see are either a.) ubuntu/unity issues b.) people wanting to use compiz effect with unity, and it not being compatible.22:34
ikonianeither of those seem fit to be pushed to #compiz for me22:34
AlanBellnope22:35
AlanBell#compiz for people wanting to write a new plugin or patch ccsm or something22:35
ikoniathey do seem to support generic compiz config issues quite well too22:36
ikoniabe nice if canonical dedicated some time to #ubuntu-unity or #unity or whatever22:36
ikoniaor released some solid documentation on it22:37
AlanBell#ubuntu-unity is used, but it isn't really very compiz focussed22:38
AlanBellcompiz isn't really supposed to be an exposed part of the platform as far as I can tell22:38
ikoniaAlanBell: but in reality it is, so $something should be done22:46
ikoniaI only said #ubuntu-unity as I couldn't think of a better channel22:47
AlanBellyeah, neither can I, and Canonical have lost their main compiz guru as well22:48
ikoniaI'm sure (thankfully) there is more than one guy holding it together22:48

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