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[07:41] <bazhang> haxxor
[07:42] <jussi> he is funny, that one
[13:55] <Mamarok> something is wrong with FllodBot, it is behaving strangely in #k
[14:03] <Mamarok> anyone?
[14:34] <Pici> nikolam: can we help you?
[14:34] <nikolam> I would not like to stay here, since it is ops-only channel. Just would like to recover normal status on #ubuntu. I did not stopped talking/helping user about swap partition the same moment I was asked to.
[14:35] <Pici> one moment.
[14:35] <nikolam> But I stopped. Going away from this channel now?
[14:38] <Pici> nikolam: did you speak to bazhang about this?
[14:39] <nikolam> Pici, thats it. And he said will last few days.
[14:41] <Pici> Let me see if I can summon him, as he didn't really leave enough notes on our ban tracker.
[14:43] <nikolam> Pici, I don't think but maybe talk log will help how it progress to understand on my part.
[14:49] <nikolam> Pici, maybe it is clever for me not to stay on ops channel. I will paste to you the talk.
[17:43] <bazhang> Snowhog] (~quassel@169-112-35-72.mtaonline.net): Paul,,,
[17:43] <bazhang> is he legit? in #kubuntu
[17:43] <IdleOne> is he identified?
[17:44] <bazhang> [Snowhog] is using a secure connection
[17:44] <bazhang> thats sasl I guess
[17:44] <IdleOne> looks like the same info posted on the kubuntu forums
[17:44] <Fuchs> no, it isn't
[17:44] <Fuchs> it is SSL I guess ;p
[17:44] <bazhang> ssl?
[17:44] <bazhang> heh sorry
[17:44] <Fuchs> you don't see whether people use SASL or not
[17:44] <bazhang> yeah I use both, afaik
[18:20] <bazhang> ruhroh
[18:21]  * IdleOne casts resurrection spell on ubottu
[18:22] <IdleOne> think I used a little too much eye of newt
[18:26] <bazhang> hehe
[19:30] <Pici> rackspace having an issue?
[19:31] <tsimpson_> I'm guessing so
[22:05] <Jordan_U> !ccsm
[22:05] <Jordan_U> !compiz
[22:07] <Jordan_U> Both point to #compiz, but #compiz's topic states "For unity support, please use ubuntu channels". Does that mean that they won't support anyone using Unity, or just that they will answer wobbly windows questions from Unity users, but not Unity specific questions?
[22:17] <ikonia> to be honest, if I was compiz, I'd not support unity
[22:17] <ikonia> it's canonicals plugin/platform
[22:20] <AlanBell> hmm, this is true
[22:21] <AlanBell> they are mostly not interested with people running Unity
[22:21] <MrChrisDruif> Thou I like where this is going (suggesting Ubuntu should move away from compiz as it's composition manager), this isn't the place to discuss that (I think at least)
[22:22] <AlanBell> I had a long discussion with them about the largedesktop dependency and dependency management
[22:22] <AlanBell> not suggesting that at all MrChrisDruif, just whether we should point people with compiz questions in the direction of #compiz so readily
[22:23] <MrChrisDruif> Well, that would depend on what the question is about.
[22:23] <AlanBell> it would to an extent
[22:23] <MrChrisDruif> Those two factoids are about compiz and it's manager ccsm
[22:23] <MrChrisDruif> But !unity ?
[22:23] <MrChrisDruif> !unity
[22:25] <MrChrisDruif> Like I said, if the question is more unity related than compiz, well you know what I'd suggest. #ubuntu ofc
[22:26] <MrChrisDruif> However if it's more compiz related referring to #compiz would be best, thou I did hear rumors once that the "unity plugin" caused a lot of breakage with the rest of compiz.
[22:26] <MrChrisDruif> Anywho, I'm off to bed.
[22:34] <ikonia> I don't think the majority of users of #ubuntu can measure up if it's an issue with compiz or unity for most issues
[22:34] <ikonia> most that I actually see are either a.) ubuntu/unity issues b.) people wanting to use compiz effect with unity, and it not being compatible.
[22:34] <ikonia> neither of those seem fit to be pushed to #compiz for me
[22:35] <AlanBell> nope
[22:35] <AlanBell> #compiz for people wanting to write a new plugin or patch ccsm or something
[22:36] <ikonia> they do seem to support generic compiz config issues quite well too
[22:36] <ikonia> be nice if canonical dedicated some time to #ubuntu-unity or #unity or whatever
[22:37] <ikonia> or released some solid documentation on it
[22:38] <AlanBell> #ubuntu-unity is used, but it isn't really very compiz focussed
[22:38] <AlanBell> compiz isn't really supposed to be an exposed part of the platform as far as I can tell
[22:46] <ikonia> AlanBell: but in reality it is, so $something should be done
[22:47] <ikonia> I only said #ubuntu-unity as I couldn't think of a better channel
[22:48] <AlanBell> yeah, neither can I, and Canonical have lost their main compiz guru as well
[22:48] <ikonia> I'm sure (thankfully) there is more than one guy holding it together