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xnoxcjwatson: /me ponders where did I miss it.01:36
xnoxchecking.01:36
xnoxyes.01:42
* xnox had a strange feeling something is wrong when plymouth migrated without dri-tools.01:43
xnoxplease accept colord-gtk, split of libcolord-gtk library from the colord source package.02:06
infinityxnox: Why the split?02:20
xnoxinfinity: ask the uploader. /me has no clue, but as far as I can see something to do with not liking gtk portion of it.02:21
infinityI thought you had some insight, since you were demanding it be accepted. :P02:22
* xnox just wants empty britney02:22
infinity+commit fca4196ed897e086fd917f489c38d95278e4b1df02:22
infinity+Author: Richard Hughes <richard@hughsie.com>02:22
infinity+Date:2012-06-1802:22
infinity+02:22
infinity+    Split out colord-gtk to a new sub-project to prevent a dep loop02:22
infinity+02:22
infinity+    At the moment GTK requires colord to build, but colord-gtk needs02:22
infinity+    GTK to build.02:22
infinity+    This makes bootstrapping a distro (or using jhbuild) harder than it02:22
infinity+    needs to be.02:22
infinityThat seems to answer it.02:22
xnox=)))02:23
xnoxcolord: - Remove colord-gtk packages that are now in a different source package02:23
infinityYeah, your paste doesn't answer anything. :P02:23
infinityAs I'd still ask "and why are they in a different source package?"02:23
* infinity grabs the source to get all reviewy on its ass.02:24
xnox=)))))02:24
xnoxack, ack.02:24
xnoxthanks a lot =)02:28
xnoxwhy does britney not consider glew for transition?03:38
slangasekxnox: because there are binaries in raring-proposed that are out-of-date (because they're NBS), and those need removed first; fixing06:27
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xnoxslangasek: interesting. thanks.09:08
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psivaaxnox: Just wondering about the ETA of the fix for bug 1068178 :)09:34
ubot2Launchpad bug 1068178 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "ubi-usersetup failed with exit code 1 on preseeded - encrypted-home installations on precise" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106817809:34
xnoxpsivaa: let me check.09:35
psivaaAlso i take precise desktop images being oversized is a known issue.09:36
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xnoxcjwatson: I have cherrypicked the fix for the ^^^^^ ubiquity issue for precise. Are you planning to make a new upload of ubiquity to precise again soon or should the current upload pass verification first?09:58
infinityxnox: Let the secure boot crap all pass and get promoted first, unless this bug's a showstopper.09:59
infinityxnox: Pretty please.09:59
xnoxinfinity: ack. It's a show-stopper for one test-case: automatic pre-seeding of default install with ecryptfs enabled.10:01
xnoxinfinity: targetted for 12.04.2 to make sure we include it.10:01
infinityxnox: Well, I'm sure it won't be the only bug we're trying to squeeze into .2 ;)10:02
infinityxnox: (or bugfix rather)10:02
infinityxnox: But yeah, the SB stuff kinda all needs to land in a big (hopefully working) group.10:02
xnoxpsivaa: right. we currently have sru for ubiquity with 7 bugs to verify and I am sorry this bug did not make it into this sru. http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html After those are verified, I'll upload the fix for the encrypted-home bug. Sorry for the delay.10:04
psivaaxnox: ok, hope it gets included in the next batch. thank you.10:08
xnoxit will.10:08
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cjwatsonbdrung: In case you were wondering, I'm working on the reason that gworkspace didn't get copied to the release pocket (bug 1083131).11:48
ubot2Launchpad bug 1083131 in Launchpad itself "Closing bugs OOPSes on invalid UTF-8" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108313111:48
bdrungcjwatson: i haven't noticed it yet :)11:49
* ogra-cb__ wonders why he didnt see the plymouth issue when upgrading his nexus7 11:55
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cjwatson(I've confirmed that gworkspace is currently the only case where a publication was deleted from proposed without a successful copy to release and without having already been superseded by a later upload.)11:56
xnoxogra-cb: btw. should there not be libdrm-omap?12:08
ogra-cbi think its called libdrm2-omap (not sure, would need to check)12:08
ogra-cband yeas, theer shoulld eb the omap one and the radeon and nvidia ones shoud go away on arm :)12:09
ogra-cb(as well as intel)12:09
xnoxogra-cb: for the debs in plymouth. Ah.. it's libdrm-omap112:10
ogra-cbah, right12:10
ogra-cbi knew there was a number in the name12:10
ogra-cbhmm, the nexus7 is really unhappy with the raring kernel :(12:12
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bdrungcjwatson: FYI, a fixed gworkspace is uploaded (the changelog had ISO-88... and UTF-8 mixed)12:18
cjwatsonI kind of wish you hadn't12:19
cjwatsonI was going to use it as a test case for the fix12:19
cjwatsonI guess I can still do that on dogfood12:19
cjwatsonBut it wouldn't have been necessary if you'd asked ;-)12:19
bdrungcjwatson: sorry. feel free to reject that upload12:21
cjwatsonCan't12:22
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ogra-cbhmm, the nexus7 build still fails on the plymouth issue13:42
ogra-cbis something stuck in NEW by chance ?13:43
ogra-cbhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1389006/13:45
seb128ogra-cb, NEW is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+queue?queue_state=013:45
xnoxogra-cb: well I didn't add libdrm-omap1 dep on armhf, yet. I guess you need it like _now_13:46
ogra-cbyeah, nothing there13:46
* xnox didn't understand the urgency earlier.13:46
ogra-cbxnox, no hurry13:46
xnoxogra-cb: did it work before?13:46
seb128ogra-cb, try to sudo apt-get install libdrm-intel1 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm-nouveau2 plymouth-theme13:47
seb128ogra-cb, to see what is the issue13:47
ogra-cb0.8.8-0ubuntu113:47
ogra-cbi have that one installed on the last nexus7 image13:47
ogra-cbdidnt cause build issues13:47
xnoxogra-cb: and what is the current plymouth version?13:48
ogra-cbhmm, i dont get that13:49
xnox(for you / in that log failing to install)13:49
ogra-cbso the build from the 24th failed13:49
ogra-cberr13:49
ogra-cb25th13:49
ogra-cband todays too13:49
ogra-cbbur the one from the 24th worked with the same plymouth version13:50
ogra-cbhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/20121124/raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.manifest13:51
xnoxI see only 24th log here: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/raring/13:51
ogra-cblibplymouth20.8.8-0ubuntu113:51
xnoxwhere are the 25/26th logs?13:51
ogra-cbfailed13:51
ogra-cbnot sure why they arent copied, i got them by mail13:52
ogra-cbboth have the above pastebin error13:52
xnoxogra-cb: can you forward them to xnox@u.c ?13:52
xnoxwell it should be 0.8.8-0ubuntu2 across the board13:53
ogra-cbubuntu2 was only uploaded this night13:54
ogra-cb3am according to raring-changes13:55
* xnox was awake....13:55
xnoxogra-cb: so libdrm-intel1 is not built for armhf since quantal and up.13:55
ogra-cbwell, i would assume a libdrm issue13:55
ogra-cbdoesnt smell like plymouth13:55
xnoxogra-cb: but the later two are available, so why does the resolver tries to use the first one instead of any of the other two.13:55
ogra-cbwell, why does it use them at all :P13:56
ogra-cbyou will never find any compatible HW for either of these libs on arm13:56
ogra-cbbut iirc the prob was that the initrd stuff needs to be rewritten to be able to drop them13:57
cjwatsonogra-cb: Hmm.  I assumed that that was due to needing s/libdrm-nouveau1a/libdrm-nouveau2/, which is why I asked xnox about that yesterday; but that isn't the problem any more.14:13
cjwatsonxnox: The resolver message indicates that none of the three are installable.14:13
* cjwatson sets up some raring-only chdist environments14:14
ogra-cbyeah, whats really so confusing is that i got one successfull built on the 24th with the accused to be broken plymouth version14:14
ogra-cbthere was a libdrm upload on thesday it seems14:16
ogra-cb*tuesday14:16
xnoxogra-cb: and that was stuck in proposed until plymouth and dri-utils got rebuilt/fixed.14:17
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cjwatsonHmm, can't seem to reproduce in chdist14:18
* ogra-cb tries a dist-upgrade on the 20121124 image14:19
cjwatsonWonder if I can run a test build on my Nexus 7 :-)14:19
cjwatsonIt only really has to manage debootstrap, which should be fine ...14:20
ogra-cbyou surely can, but i would suggest using a USB key/disk via the otg cable ... might be faster14:20
cjwatsonMeh, debootstrap output isn't that large14:20
ogra-cbwell, yes, and it wont be eath shattering faster either14:21
ogra-cb*earth14:21
cjwatsonI'll give it a try in a few minutes once I've upgraded it sufficiently14:21
hggdhjust a question -- are we now shipping kernel 3.5 by default on Precise?14:21
ogra-cbeverything but GLES stuff should be buildable just fine on the nexus14:22
cjwatsonhggdh: Yes, the quantal enablement stack14:22
ogra-cband i bet even way faster than on any panda14:22
hggdhcjwatson: thanks14:22
ogra-cb(just disk io isnt thrilling)14:22
cjwatsonogra-cb: Once it has overlayfs support it should be a nice enough sbuild machin14:22
cjwatsone14:22
ogra-cbheh14:22
ogra-cbif you could charge while having a HDD attached we could use a stack of them as buildd farm :)14:23
cjwatsonhggdh: For new installs, at any rate; nothing auto-upgrades existing installs14:23
hggdhcjwatson: yes, makes sense. We were just surprised to see new installs with 3.5 in QA. I do not remember receiving any notice it would be done now14:24
cjwatsonogra-cb: Are you running nexus7 builds by hand?  I don't see them in nusakan's crontab14:25
ogra-cbdist-upgrade seems to work fine here btw14:25
cjwatsonhggdh: I probably assumed the kernel team would tell you :)14:26
ogra-cbcjwatson, i added them for 13:3214:26
ogra-cbright next to the lubuntu preinstalled ones14:26
cjwatsonogra-cb: Oh, never mind, failure to read default-arches14:26
cjwatsonI was grepping crontab for nexus :)14:26
ogra-cbheh14:26
Davieycjwatson: Hey, psivaa said they our precise daily images have quantal kernel?14:27
cjwatsonDaviey: Scroll up :)14:29
ogra-cbaha14:29
ogra-cbhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/libdrm/2.4.40-1 says it was only published at 24th14:29
ogra-cbsad that it doesnt tell the time14:29
cjwatsonHover14:29
ogra-cbbut i would guess its libdrm then14:29
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cjwatsonAs in, if you mouseover the date, you'll get a tooltip14:30
ogra-cbsince the image build of the 25th was the first that failed14:30
cjwatsonOr whatever you call it14:30
ogra-cbhmm14:30
Davieycjwatson: I understood that this would not impact server.14:30
ogra-cb03:33 CET14:30
ogra-cbos that would mean it was available on the 20121124 image14:30
ogra-cb*so14:30
ogra-cb(thanks btw, didnt know about the tooltip)14:31
ogra-cbARGH14:32
ogra-cbthat dist-upgrade made my initrd go from 1.5M to 3M14:32
cjwatsonDaviey: Perhaps it would make sense if all the people involved talked to each other.  It will be very very inconvenient to accommodate your request.14:35
cjwatsonDaviey: What is the reason behind your request?14:35
Davieycjwatson: I did just send a mail to those involved checking.. I thought that was what was agreed.14:39
Davieycjwatson: Having a higher reliance on dkms and other stuff that reaches into kernel spae, concerns me that we are doing this.14:39
DavieyI thought server was purely sticking with the LTS kernel.. But i am checking for details now.14:39
cjwatsonThen y'all need to tell me very clearly what you actually need.14:41
cjwatsonAnd you won't get reliable secure boot support.  (You probably don't care, but I should be absolutely clear about this.)14:42
ogra-cbcjwatson, could it be that there is some issue with the mirror used to build the images ? i cant really figure out whats wrong, manual dist-upgrade just works14:42
ogra-cbas well as installing in a chroot14:42
cjwatsonogra-cb: No, it's reproducible in a local build here14:42
ogra-cbah, good14:42
cjwatsonJust working on debugging it now.14:43
Davieycjwatson: Okay, yeah.. I'll stay shum until we have clarification.  Thanks14:43
cjwatsonDaviey: It may not be too horrible to fix, I guess, but I need total clarity or else there'll be chaos as we go back and forth.14:44
Davieycjwatson: yeah, just hold out.  It might be what was expected all along, but it wasn't what i heard.  So lemme get clarification14:45
cjwatson(Since I did go to the effort of making it parameterised by a variable in CONF.sh, so I could make that project-specific.)14:46
cjwatsonogra-cb: Ah.  I demoted libdrm-radeon1 from Priority: required to optional a bit too enthusiastically, apparently.14:59
ogra-cboh, hard to catch14:59
cjwatsonogra-cb: The effect of this is that debootstrap's output has unsatisfied dependencies.14:59
cjwatsonFixed in the archive now, for the next publisher run14:59
ogra-cbk, i'll trigger a manual build in a few hours14:59
cjwatsonThat was the cause of the powerpc image build failures too.15:00
ogra-cbwe really need to clean that up in an arch specific way some day ... on arm none of these libs make sense (apart from omap1)15:01
ScottKogra-cb: Start your list now for the UDS-S spec of "stuff I wish I'd had time for in Raring."15:05
ScottK;-)15:05
ogra-cbheh15:05
ogra-cbthats from the "list of things i wish i had had time for in natty"15:06
ogra-cbits not like thats a new issue ... just rather complex due to the initramfs involvement15:08
GunnarHjinfinity: ping16:19
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xnoxcjwatson: I think rsyncable is broken on the desktop iso's. Over the past week right now I have hit with zsync "no relevent local data found" will redownload the whole file.17:14
cjwatsonDon't know, I'm afraid; depends rather on squashfs-tools' behaviour17:14
xnoxcjwatson: and when ogra-cb & infinity were poking (one of the cd building softwares) they may have mentioned lack of gzip --rsyncable options.17:14
cjwatsonI don't recall there being a special option for it or anything17:14
cjwatsonBut gzip isn't used ...17:15
xnoxhmmm17:15
cjwatsonAt least not anywhere that matters much17:15
xnox(it may have been something for nexus7)17:15
cjwatsonAnyway, AFAICS --rsyncable just isn't documented, but exists17:15
cjwatsonCompare the output of 'gzip --rsyncable' and 'gzip --garbage'17:15
ScottKShortly (once digikam is updated) we'll be in a position where only two packages block getting all of KDE 4.10 beta 1 (4.9.80) from raring-proposed to raring.  Those both need upstream porting due to API changes, so I think we don't want to wait.  Would the preferred approach be to force everything in despite those packages or to remove their binaries and then everything should migrate naturally?17:16
cjwatsonHmm17:17
cjwatsonIt screws users of those packages either way17:17
cjwatsonAre the packages on your images?17:17
ScottKOne of them is.17:18
ScottKThe part I don't understand though is why the impact isn't just two versions of the library for awhile?17:19
cjwatsonThen it's probably best to remove the binaries so that images can keep building, and file an RC bug as a reminder.  I'm concerned that this approach undermines the message about raring being continuously usable, though.17:19
cjwatsonOh17:19
xnoxcjwatson: I do wonder how I can debug my zsync problem.17:19
cjwatsonScottK: If that's all it is, it should be OK to force it17:19
ogra-cbxnox, cjwatson, --rsycable isnt set fr tarballs inside live-build17:19
cjwatsonbritney considers the situation as if all NBS were removed17:19
ScottKAh.17:19
ogra-cbdebian-cd uses it17:19
ScottKNow I understand better.17:19
cjwatsonOr all NBS from the new source anyway17:19
ogra-cbfor the images themselves17:19
ScottKWho can force stuff?17:20
* xnox adds a todo item.17:20
cjwatsonScottK: ~ubuntu-release17:21
ScottKIs there an ubuntu-archive-tools script for that or more properly, what wiki page or some such should I be reading instead of harassing you?17:22
cjwatsonScottK: First time, you need to edit britney.conf in ~ubuntu-release/britney/britney2-ubuntu to add a hint permission for yourself (just follow the pattern)17:22
ScottKOK.17:22
cjwatsoner with lp: on front17:22
ScottKGathered that bit.17:22
cjwatsonScottK: Then create a file for yourself in lp:~ubuntu-release/britney/hints-ubuntu with the hints you want17:22
cjwatsonhttp://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/hints/README has the syntax17:23
ScottKThanks.17:23
cjwatsonI should probably wikify this at some point17:23
ScottKThen once the packages move, the hint can be removed ....17:26
cjwatsonAt your leisure, yes17:29
ScottKThanks.  I think I'm all set up now.17:29
ogra-cbSHRIEK !!17:31
ogra-cbhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1389492/17:31
ogra-cbso that build obviously failed17:32
ogra-cbgrmbl17:48
ogra-cbthere was no upload that could have caused live/build to break that way i think17:48
xnoxogra-cb: well, seb128 did upload pyxdg17:49
ogra-cboh17:49
xnoxogra-cb: and I wonder which file it's processing & fails on.17:50
ogra-cbseb128, seems that broke update-apt-xapian-index somehow17:50
ogra-cbobviously a kde one17:50
ogra-cbbut we dont log anything from subprocesses called in hooks during build it seems17:51
xnox... and there were plently of kde uploads lately migrating.17:51
ogra-cbso its hard to get more info beyond the tracback17:51
seb128ogra-cb, urg, sorry about that ... I was unsure how to test it so I mostly relied on the upstream test suit, seems that was not enough ... looks like a good case to add regression tests17:51
cjwatsonRun it locally and then you can just chroot in and try again17:51
seb128ogra-cb, it traceback on /usr/share/app-install/desktop/spout:spout.desktop17:53
seb128Categories:Application:Game:ArcadeGame17:54
seb128it doesn't like that syntax error17:54
ogra-cbbah, silly games17:55
seb128that's the only issue17:55
seb128if you move that .desktop away it works17:55
seb128ogra-cb, want to fix app-install-data?17:57
seb128ogra-cb, I need to run for ~1 hour but I can have a look later if needed, I will look at making pyxdg robust to those parsing errors but the easy fix is to update spout:spout.desktop to use "Categories=...;...;..;"17:58
seb128that's the lack of "=" that makes the parser unhappy17:58
cjwatsonI'll fix the spout source package now17:59
seb128cjwatson, thanks18:00
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seb128the pyxdg "bug" was introduced in http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xdg/pyxdg/commit/xdg/IniFile.py?id=39407c25769dd90ab9d5e8ee4c49b08f2d3f708918:05
seb128- index = line.find("=")18:05
seb128- key = line[0:index].strip()18:05
seb128- value = line[index+1:].strip()18:05
seb128+ key, value = line.split("=", 1)18:05
seb128well it was probably buggy before but not hitting an exception18:05
cjwatsonuploaded; it'll need somebody to refresh app-install-data-ubuntu once that's in place18:05
cjwatsonHeh, upstream filed a bug on Ubuntu's spout package, even18:05
seb128do we need/want a pyxdg workaround upload? like revert that diff?18:05
seb128or is that ok to wait for app-install-data-ubuntu to be refreshed?18:06
cjwatsonMeh, it was busted, let's just fix a-i-d-u18:06
seb128works for me18:06
cjwatsonI can poke it after dinner18:06
cjwatson(i.e. manual refresh if necessary)18:07
seb128thanks18:07
seb128need to run, bbl18:07
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infinityGunnarHj: ?18:48
GunnarHjinfinity: Hi Adam, I was about to ask for your help to publish a few im-switch SRUs. ScottK seems to have done it already, though. Possibly he missed the quantal one. Maybe you can check if that's still in some queue?18:51
infinityGunnarHj: I see nothing named im-* in the quantal queues.18:52
ScottKI think I got that one.18:53
* ScottK looks18:53
infinityOh, unless by "queue", you mean "archive".18:53
ScottKGunnarHj ...18:53
ScottK--- Releasing im-switch ---18:53
ScottKProposed: 1.22ubuntu2.118:53
ScottKRelease:  1.22ubuntu218:53
ScottKCopied to quantal-updates18:53
GunnarHjinfinity, ScottK: I don't see it yet at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/im-switch, but I just got an email, so it's probably in the archive soon. Thanks!18:54
infinityGunnarHj: You want /$version/+publishinghistory on the end of that.18:54
infinityGunnarHj: It should show you the pending records.18:54
GunnarHjinfinity: Aha, thanks for the tip.18:55
infinityhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/im-switch/1.22ubuntu2.1/+publishinghistory <-- For example.18:55
* ScottK went through and released all the verified SRUs within the last hour.18:55
infinityScottK: Thanks.  Now I get to flood proposed with a bunch of queue reviews today.18:56
ScottKYes.  Please.18:56
infinityAnd the cycles continues...18:56
seb128infinity, thanks in advance for doing queue reviews ;-)18:57
ogra-cbcycling keeps you fit :)19:02
seb128great, one of the two powerpc building just picked up libreoffice to build19:03
seb128building->builders19:04
infinityYes, fat software needs building too.19:05
seb128infinity, I'm more annoyed by the n_builder = 2 and the fact that nothing will move out of proposed to raring until the powerpc backlog is cleared :p19:06
ScottKI've scored down builds on powerpc that I knew would fail to keep them from blocking up stuff until the queue is empty.19:07
seb128oh, great, it failed19:07
ogra-cbheh19:07
seb128well, everything graphical is failing due to the out-of-sync-between-arch of fontconfig19:08
seb128ok, dinner time, bbl19:08
ScottKseb128: I just scored fontconfig up then.19:09
infinityseb128: You can be annoyed about it all you want, but I'm not sure what good it will do. ;)19:10
mdeslaurFYI, powerpc delay annoys the heck out of me too :P19:11
ogra-cbarent we supposed to be over that soon ?19:13
ScottKAll it takes is a DCE to go revive sulfur.19:13
ScottKTomorrow apparently.19:13
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infinityYeah, that's "all it's needed" for a while now.  Just a bit light on staff in London right now. :/19:15
seb128infinity, well, the issue is that there is always a good reason and a solution "soon" but the fact is that powerpc is an issue again and again and again every cycle19:57
seb128ScottK, thanks19:57
ScottKAt least there's a third builder down and down one = 2 and not =1.19:57
seb128infinity, it's blocking SRUs, delaying normal work for 99% of users for the benefit of 1% etc19:57
ScottKThat last Main builds in the quantal backlog are building now.19:59
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ScottKOf course fontconfig becomes installable on powerpc just as the digikam build that I know will fail half way through starts ...21:20
infinityTimig: iz everything.21:26
infinityTiming, too.21:26
ScottKYou shouldn't have corrected yourself.  I thought that was some new lolcat dialect with which I was not familiar.21:27
cjwatsonUploading that app-install-data-ubuntu update now.21:29
jamespageplease could the NEW packages for walinuxagent be accepted for raring; start of the SRU process for a critical fix....21:40
infinityjamespage: Reading that bug and the fix kinda made me die a little inside.21:48
jbichaplease reject the previous gnome-shell upload and I hope I don't lose my place in the SRU line :|21:51
infinityjbicha: Old one rejected, review rescheduled for January 3rd.21:52
infinityjbicha: (I'm working on a bunch of reviews this afternoon/evening, we'll so how many I can get through)21:53
infinitys/so/see/21:53
jbichainfinity: yay! I should be able to get the paperwork done by January21:53
ScottKOK.  Now that I retried everything that failed due to fontconfig uninstallibity, the powerpc build queue is looking suitably crappy again.23:49

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