[03:55] <vexxecon> Good evening, all!
[04:13] <thafreak> not good evening for me.... :(
[04:13] <thafreak> where you from vexxecon
[04:15] <vexxecon> Montpelier
[04:15] <vexxecon> Right up 15 minutes from both Michigan and Indiana
[04:16] <thafreak> brb...
[04:17] <canthus13> vexxecon: Ah... Not *that* far from me. I'm in Toledo.
[04:18] <vexxecon> Yep. I'm in Toledo all the time.
[04:18] <vexxecon> It's a *cough*45 minute drive*cough*. An hour if I'm driving safely.
[04:18] <canthus13> Heh.
[04:20] <vexxecon> I'm going to be coming into a spare laptop this week, and was trying to decide what to put on it when I get it fixed up. I think I'm going to go with Kubuntu...
[04:21] <canthus13> Ew.
[04:21] <thafreak> whatever you do, don't put vmware player on it...
[04:21] <thafreak> this thing is garbage
[04:21] <Cheri703> now now canthus13, we are flavor agnostic here :)
[04:21] <canthus13> I swear KDE is like frankenstein's monster.
[04:21] <vexxecon> I love me some KDE.
[04:22] <Cheri703> thafreak: vmware player is not so bad...depends on what you're doing I suppose
[04:22] <thafreak> it never runs for me...
[04:22] <canthus13> thafreak: Eh? vmware player works well for me. better than vbox when it comes to XP. (I dunno why, but I couldn't install silverlight in vbox...)
[04:22] <thafreak> keeps crapping out
[04:22] <Cheri703> yeah, I much prefer vmware player to vbox
[04:22] <thafreak> anytime I actually NEED to use it, it doesn't run
[04:23] <canthus13> I like vbox for a lot of stuff. but XP... Meh.
[04:23] <vexxecon> I'm running Ubuntu proper on my other spare laptop, but the interface bugs me, and I'm lazy enough that I'll leave it and wait till I get another laptop to install Kubuntu instead of just installing a new interface.
[04:23]  * thafreak is NOT in a good mood tonight...
[04:23]  * thafreak drove in to work because the single point of failure (central san)...failed
[04:23] <canthus13> vexxecon: Yeah. Unity is too kindergarten-y for me too. I've been using Awesome w/ gnome stuff.
[04:24] <canthus13> thafreak: Ew. that sucks.
[04:24] <thafreak> been waiting to reboot it cause it's UI died months ago, but didn't want to take EVERYTHING off line
[04:24] <vexxecon> When they switched to Unity, that's when I stopped enjoying Ubuntu's design tastes.
[04:25] <thafreak> now, I reboot it ....the 3ware card says there are no drives....FML
[04:25]  * vexxecon eyes his linux laptop that sits in the corner gathering dust
[04:25] <Unit193> Never liked gnome, but Xfce is great. ;)
[04:26] <vexxecon> I use Xfce on my Raspberry Pi
[04:26] <thafreak> i have been having small gripes with xfce on 12.04 lately so I switched to lxde
[04:27] <vexxecon> Unfortunately, that's the only time I get to use Linux on a regular basis- when I'm fiddling with my RPi.
[04:27] <thafreak> I spend way too damn much of my life fidling with linux...
[04:28]  * thafreak needs a new career
[04:28] <canthus13> vexxecon: Heh. the only time I get to use windows on a regular basis is at work. At home, all the machines are Linux. (With the exception of a VM on my laptop)
[04:28] <canthus13> thafreak: Come do tech support. we're hiring. :)
[04:28] <canthus13> then you'll long for your old job.
[04:28] <thafreak> no, my job is too much tech support as it is...hence the need to leave
[04:28] <vexxecon> Before I was laid off, I used windows exclusively at work, and had to use it at home for work purposes(Visual Studio ftl).
[04:29] <thafreak> poor guy
[04:29] <vexxecon> And also, my laptop is a Mac, and my second laptop has heating issues, etc.
[04:30] <thafreak> My newest server in the basement has started having heating issues...and now maybe drive issues :(
[04:30] <vexxecon> I never got to reinstall Kubuntu on my desktop here at home when I rebuilt it, so that's a thing I have to do.
[04:31] <thafreak> I just tested kubuntu...ran it live on a spare laptop...the menu thing anoyed me...other than that, it seems better
[04:31] <thafreak> but I couldn't handle that menu all the time...there's probably a way to change it though
[04:32] <Cheri703> last time I tried kubuntu, the package manager would not download files. like...at all. no updates, no new packages, nothing would work -_- so I gave up. even reinstalled it a few times and still nothing
[04:32] <vexxecon> I enjoy it. I prefer KDE over all other interfaces.
[04:32] <thafreak> vexxecon: do you use the default menu, or do you modify it?
[04:33] <vexxecon> Default.
[04:36] <canthus13> hmm.. packages.. I should run updates. it's been a few hours.
[04:37] <canthus13> bah. nothing.
[04:37]  * canthus13 keeps hoping a better vid driver will appear so minecraft will be playable again.
[04:37] <canthus13> ..although it's prolly minecraft that's the problem.
[04:38] <vexxecon> I ran updates on a fresh install of Ubuntu on a laptop I was fixing early last week, and it came back with nothing, then 5 minutes later I did it again just to be sure and it's like "Oh, I forgot to tell you you had 2 hours of updates, sorry."
[04:38] <canthus13> heh.
[04:40] <vexxecon> And then I found a copy of Windows 7 and installed it over that because my mom said that the user(her friend) didn't know how to linux, and needed windows for online, in browser testing.
[07:55] <thafreak> holy crap...turned out the battery backup unit was/is bad on the raid controller
[07:55] <thafreak> caused the raid controller to pretend there were no disks attached...
[07:56] <thafreak> oh, and I had to take the entire 2U heavy a** storage array out of the rack to diagnose...
[07:56] <thafreak> only took 3 hours....ugh
[08:06] <vexxecon> Could have been worse.
[08:47] <thafreak> true...the array could have been toast...that would be horrible
[08:47] <thafreak> since I don't have everything backed up :(
[21:11] <jrgifford_> There we go. :-)
[21:12] <Unit193> Ye got it!
[21:12] <Unit193> Howdy.
[21:16] <jrgifford_> What's up?
[23:14] <Unit193> jrgifford_: New car here, what about you?