[10:34] <mlankhorst> RAOF: bug bug llvm-3.1 bug :P
[10:52] <mlankhorst> also created a dummy xserver-xorg-lts-precise package, which does nothing except depend on xserver-xorg and recommend everything from the unrenamed stack..
[16:36] <bjsnider> when nvidia decides the 310 blob is stable, is there going to be a situation where the last 304 becomes a "legacy" type thing and nvidia-current becomes the 310 and beyond?
[16:37] <bjsnider> otherwise geforce 5, 6, and 7 users will be left with the terrible, terrible, nouveau
[17:14] <bryce> bjsnider, yeah I think they plan to keep 304 going with abi updates for a good while
[18:52] <bjsnider> bryce, so there should be an nvidia-304 package int he near future
[18:52] <bjsnider> just like nvidia-173 and nvidia-96 and whatnot
[18:53] <bjsnider> otherwise we'll have to hold back the 310 blob
[18:53] <bjsnider> unfortunately there are a lot of people still using that old geforce 6k/7k junk
[18:54] <Dandel> bjsnider: i have a 7k geforce card :) 
[18:55] <Dandel> and even by that timeframe it was junk... 7300gs lol.
[18:55] <bjsnider> is it an agp card?
[18:55] <Dandel> pcie
[18:55] <bjsnider> otherwise you can easily replace it
[18:55] <bjsnider> oh, get a gf 520 or something
[18:55] <Dandel> it's gathering dust already.
[18:55] <Dandel> i have a gt545
[18:55] <bjsnider> gt 520 i mean
[18:55] <bjsnider> there you go
[18:56] <bjsnider> that's good stuff
[18:56] <Dandel> i have a good mix of video cards... I just don't have a lot of choices for cpu ( mainly amd, and only intel i have is older/slow )
[18:56] <bjsnider> well, it probably has a fan, which i don't dig too much, but otherwise it's fine
[19:02] <bryce> bjsnider, yes, we'll need an nvidia-304 at some point.  -173 is going to go away, and -96 is already no longer updated.
[19:05] <Dandel> ricotz: quick update on the latest piglit stuff... there's a patch on the way to fix the egl builder
[19:33] <tavoe_> can someone explain to me what ubuntu-x is? I think it may be relevent to my interests, but I can't find a good description
[19:37] <Dandel> tavoe_: ubuntu-x is mainly related to the core of the graphical interface normally used on ubuntu. without Xorg/X11 you will not have gnome/kde/xfce/etc.
[19:38] <ricotz> Dandel, yeah this will do http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/piglit/2012-November/003910.html
[19:39] <tavoe_> ubuntu-x isn't actually xorg, though, right? Like, that's rolled into the os, its not something I would download later?
[19:39] <tavoe_> I probably sound like an idiot
[19:39] <bryce> tavoe_, the ubuntu-x team is the group of people from the community (and canonical) who do packaging and bug work for the X.org packages included in Ubuntu.
[19:40] <tavoe_> Ah. Got it. That makes sense. 
[20:18] <dupondje> any big changes in Optimus support yet since 12.10 ?
[20:42] <mlankhorst> not yet
[21:45] <dupondje> nvidia-experimental-310 is broken? I'm unable to start Gnome/Unity after the install
[21:45] <dupondje> extension: "GLX" missing for display :0
[21:48] <bjsnider> dupondje, what else does the log say?
[21:51] <dupondje> glXQueryExtensionString is NULL for screen °
[21:51] <dupondje> 0
[21:51] <dupondje> I see cursor etc, but compiz not starting
[21:57] <bjsnider> anything like bug 1054257
[21:58] <bjsnider> https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1054257
[21:59] <dupondje> yea seems so
[22:09] <bryce> although that one's for fglrx
[22:11] <bryce> OTOH even that one appears to be actually due to compiz.
[22:13] <dupondje> xorg-edgers package solved it it seems :)
[22:26] <Dandel> dupondje: xorg edgers would probably solve it anyways... removes fglrx and places radeon driver instead for any card less than the radeon hd5000 cards.
[22:27] <dupondje> Dandel: i'm on nvidia :)
[22:41] <Dandel> i see... it was just an idea