[00:14] <Justakill> Hello, have a little question. Is the're any risk with having dropbox installed on the computer compared to accessing it only through an internet browser?
[00:27] <Justakill> is my question stupid? or just not relevant to this channel?
[00:28] <David-A> Justakill: it's relevant, but maybe no one here right now have an authorative answer
[00:29] <Justakill> David-A: Okay, just wanted to make sure.
[00:35] <David-A> Justakill: my thought is, you must trust the program you run on your own computer. do you trust the dropbox-client as much as your web-browser, your word-processor, note-taking program, calendar-applet, etc?
[00:38] <Justakill> David-A: that seems to be the best way to look at these things. I somehow don't trust dropbox as much as most programs on xubuntu
[00:39] <Justakill> David-A: I guess thats why i'm asking...
[00:39] <David-A> Justakill: is it in the repositories? or you must download a .deb? is it open source?
[00:40] <Justakill> David-A: it's in the repositories. The client is not however open-source from what I understand
[00:42] <Justakill> David-A: I think thats what bothers me the most, I have come to not trusting any closed source software
[00:42] <David-A> Justakill: then it sounds like a sound caution on your part. still I cannot answer authoratively, just theorising
[00:44] <David-A> Justakill: I use e.g. the flash plugin thou it is not open source. I don't think it is malicious, but I do think it is buggy... Still I use it.
[00:46] <Justakill> David-A: Yea me too, I also have proprietary drivers for my video card. But these I concede to because not using it would cut me of from alot of possibilitys.
[00:47] <Justakill> David-A: In these situations i go by reputation, sadly dropbox have had a few security problems.
[00:49] <Unit193> Most places have had one or so, and if not, it's coming anyway.
[00:50] <Justakill> Unit193: security problems?
[00:52] <Justakill> I should probably get into encryption and security. I'm paranoid enough for it.
[00:53] <knome> Justakill, #security should exist
[00:53] <Justakill> knome: it does
[05:16] <well_laid_lawn> y
[08:19] <nyRednek> hey, having an issue with adobe digital editions...i install it, but it won't start
[08:20] <well_laid_lawn> how did you install it?
[08:24] <nyRednek> well_laid_lawn: downloaded the exe from adobe's site, run it with wine
[08:30] <well_laid_lawn> nyRednek: so you can't run it in wine?
[08:31] <nyRednek> well_laid_lawn: it isn't launching
[08:31] <well_laid_lawn> nyRednek: maybe someone in #wine will know
[08:31] <well_laid_lawn> !wine
[08:32] <well_laid_lawn> !AppDB
[08:32] <nyRednek> well_laid_lawn: here's the thing, that appdb states that the program works with no problems
[08:32] <knome> nyRednek, that's a question for wine support, not xubuntu
[08:52] <Lachezar> Hey all...
[08:53] <Lachezar> What's the deal with the 'the following element will be removed in the future' for all the '~/.font*'?
[09:05] <well_laid_lawn> Lachezar: where are you seeing that?
[09:07] <Lachezar> well_laid_lawn: at numerous places when running programs from a terminal. Like ssh-askpass :(
[09:08] <Lachezar> well_laid_lawn: Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.
[09:09] <Lachezar> well_laid_lawn: Reason: in /etc/fonts all the '~/.font*' elements are marked as deprecated. Which is 'ughley'.
[09:12] <Lachezar> well_laid_lawn: For clarity: I use the ~/.fonts and ~/.fonts.conf extensively to install fonts for my account, and to alias fonts for my account (since the default monospace font is *not* monospaced).
[09:15] <well_laid_lawn> Lachezar: do you have a ~/.conf/fontconfig dir?
[09:15] <Lachezar> well_laid_lawn: No, there is no ~/.conf directory.
[09:16] <Lachezar> well_laid_lawn: I am content with moving these, to a new ~/.??? directory, if that will solve the issue and retain the functionality.
[09:21] <well_laid_lawn> Lachezar: my bad I meant ~/.config/fontconfig
[09:22] <Lachezar> well_laid_lawn: No, I have ~/.config, but no font* there.
[09:26] <well_laid_lawn> Lachezar: if you look at /etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf it ells you the dir's that are ok to use
[09:26] <well_laid_lawn> s/ells/tells/
[09:28] <Lachezar> well_laid_lawn: What does prefix="xdg" mean?
[09:30] <well_laid_lawn> Lachezar: for the home dir it's .config
[09:38] <Lachezar> well_laid_lawn: i'll have to relogin to check if that worked. Is it OK for me to assume ~/.fonts is not deprecated?
[09:41] <Lachezar> well_laid_lawn: Hmmm... I just saw, that ~/.fonts is marked as 'will be removed', but is not deprecated. I will try to move the fonts into ~/.config/fonts
[10:04] <Lachezar> RE.
[10:06] <Lachezar> Moving ~/.fonts to ~/.config/fonts does not work :(
[10:56] <kalki> hello!
[10:56] <kalki> someone know how install scrapy on last version of xubu?
[14:12] <Justakill> I think th'ere might be an issue with my graphics driver
[14:13] <Justakill> hmm nevermind what I said i should try and figure this out by myself
[14:19] <baizon> is there a ppa for libreoffice (3.6.3)?
[14:28] <cloudrf> hey xubuntu
[14:29] <torax> hey
[14:31] <cloudrf> sup torax
[14:32] <cloudrf> i am looking for conversation
[14:32] <knome> cloudrf, #xubuntu-offtopic
[14:33] <cloudrf> will anybody be there from here?
[14:33] <knome> yes
[14:33] <knome> if you have a support question though, this is the right channel
[15:35] <Justakill> shouldn't the md5sum of a cd be the same as its iso?
[15:36] <holstein> i would check the downloaded iso
[15:36] <holstein> not sure about the actual cd...
[16:24] <Justakill> I was getting blue screens  on windows 7 and i've been told my kind of bluescreens appear when you have RAM issues,  i decided to load up xubuntu to see what happens because my memory tested with memtest. I had this issue where my mouse froze and I was put back to the login screen
[16:25] <Justakill> could this be related?
[16:25] <holstein> Justakill: i would test from the memtest..
[16:25] <holstein> Justakill: hold or tap shift while booting the live CD.. you'll see options.. memtest is one
[16:26] <holstein> if that doesnt work for you... http://www.memtest86.com/ or http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html
[16:27] <Justakill> holstein: yea i did a memtest with a memtest86 i burned myself from www.memtest86.com
[16:27] <Justakill> holstein: had no issues with 7 passes
[16:27] <holstein> Justakill: do you have bad memory?
[16:29] <Justakill> holstein: i don't know, because i tried the memtest that comes up with the grub loader and it showed errors. The thing is it acted weird because it would stop exacly at the same percentage of the pass for whatever RAM or slot i used
[16:29] <Justakill> holstein: when trying with the CD i burned it dosn't find any errors
[16:30] <Justakill> holstein: quite an annoying situation..... Because i'm not sure what to accept or not
[16:30] <holstein> when its my rig. if i have access to the hard drive, i take it out, or disconnect it so i dont harm it testing... i test each stick and slot.. determining that i have a known good stick and slot
[16:31] <holstein> Justakill: when i see an error, and i have issues,, i usually assume an error... but i have other sticks of ram laying around to test with
[16:31] <holstein> Justakill: if you have more than one stick, just go to one stick and test
[16:32] <Justakill> holstein: yea well i did that and with my CD it finds nothing
[16:33] <holstein> Justakill: i would put the ram in.. and get a live CD booting
[16:33] <holstein> Justakill: if you are sure the ram is not bad
[16:34] <Justakill> holstein: with the grub version it does and blocks always at 46% of the pass and starts recording errors in the millions. I assumed that the program has a problem..
[16:34] <holstein> Justakill: i typically assume nothing. i test intil i know for sure
[16:35] <Justakill> holstein: yea well my problem is i have one memtest telling me something and another telling me something else.
[16:36] <Justakill> holstein: Not sure where to go anymore if I can't even trust these testing apps.
[16:36] <Justakill> holstein
[16:37] <Justakill> sorry didn't mean to write you're name again
[16:38] <Justakill> But you are right i think I will test the memtest that comes with the live cd
[16:38] <Justakill> see what that gives me.
[16:38] <holstein> i would test.. or buy a stick and swap it out
[16:38] <holstein> or put in another hard drive and install to it
[16:47] <xubuntu692> hi how install xubuntu
[16:47] <bazhang> !install | xubuntu692 have a read
[16:48] <xubuntu692> I download iso and burn to DVD but I restart PC and dont booting
[16:51] <baizon> xubuntu692: open the boot menu ?
[16:51] <baizon> then choose dvd?
[16:52] <holstein> xubuntu692: might need to manually choose the cd/dvd drive to boot from your bios... this will be different from machine to machine
[16:53] <xubuntu692> I know I set booting to CD
[16:53] <baizon> xubuntu692: UEFI?
[18:13] <nantou> somebody told me aout a way to split ape-acu files with linux without MAC, (monkey audio), but I forgot
[18:13] <nantou> could anyone suggest a way before I try it with windows?
[18:13] <nantou> ffmpeg?
[18:14] <nantou> and, what apps can I use to VOIP with people that use skype without using skype?
[18:15] <holstein> i would ask skype what they allow... ape-acu is an audio file?
[18:17] <nantou> ape-acu-log is a set of files used to compress audio, if I have understood it correctly
[18:17] <nantou> i need to split the ape and acu files to get audio files
[18:18] <holstein> you mean, seperate audio from video? or split an audio track into smaller audio tracks?
[18:22] <nantou> noits all audio, but you cannot play the ape-acu files until it is split
[18:23] <holstein> i deal with audio a lot... if you elaborate as to what you have and what you need.. or you can try #opensourcemusicians
[18:24] <nantou> im sorry, as I stilln dont fully understand ape and acu, ill look for a link
[18:25] <nantou> I have a cd of brahms, I have an ape, an acu and a log file for it
[18:25] <nantou> the ape files is the actual sound
[18:25] <holstein> OH.. and a table of contents.. i might just burn a CD
[18:25] <nantou> the acu marks the seconds in which the big ape file is split, so you get actual tracks of music
[18:25] <nantou> the log, apparently, is just a log
[18:26] <holstein> i might install k3b (even though it pulls in a bunch of kde libs) and just make a CD
[18:26] <nantou> I prefer to store my music in a HDD
[18:26] <holstein> sure.. then you can grab it
[18:26] <nantou> and where I am I dont have cds
[18:26] <holstein> and store it where you like.. rip it
[18:26] <nantou> ok, looking for k3b
[18:26] <holstein> nantou: i would ask the content creator for a copy
[18:27] <holstein> nantou: you should be able to burn a virtual CD and grab the contents back
[18:27] <holstein> its brahms.. so i might just seek another source
[18:51] <acidolattico> heilà...
[18:55] <tarayici> hello
[18:55] <tarayici> is there any way to change thumbnail size of files in thunar? permanently!
[20:53] <xubuntu000> Hello all, i was wondering if someone could help me with something regarding Xubuntu
[20:53] <xubuntu000> is anyone there? @all
[20:54] <xubuntu000> :/
[20:54] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu000: what's the problem?
[20:55] <GridCube> !patience
[20:55] <xubuntu000> Thanks!
[20:56] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu000: keep it in the channel please
[20:56] <well_laid_lawn> I don't know everything
[20:56] <xubuntu000> Alright
[20:56] <xubuntu000> As i'm rather new to all of this, i wasn't sure what to expect.
[20:56] <xubuntu000> However, I was wondering about installing Xubuntu 12.04.1 on a linux machine
[20:57] <xubuntu000> I have a project to do and I'm attempting to run 0 ad on a linux computer in a lab.
[20:57] <well_laid_lawn> what's 0 ad
[20:57] <xubuntu000> a game, but the primary problem at hand involves getting xubuntu on the system
[20:58] <xubuntu000> should i used a CD or a flash drive, I don't know if USB will work and i heard I was supposed to format a USB with fat32 ( i have no idea what that is)
[20:58] <well_laid_lawn> just go with the cd then
[20:58] <xubuntu000> Ok, could you help me figure out what this text means?
[20:59] <xubuntu000> It's some instructions to help me figure it out, and I don't know the terms and such
[20:59] <well_laid_lawn> probably
[20:59] <xubuntu000> also no context, as i'm new.
[20:59] <well_laid_lawn> yep sure
[20:59] <dbb> hi all - we build a Live distribution based on XUbuntu, now 12.04.1, its going great .. thx very much for your efforts.. but I have a question about locales
[20:59] <xubuntu000> This is all he told me:
[20:59] <xubuntu000>  Download the version for your OS and run it. Go ahead and format a USB drive with fat32. Select "xubuntu" and version 12.04.1 from the drop down boxes. Make sure you select the correct USB drive drive letter then click OK, it will download the ISO image for you and install it on the USB drive. Once that's done, eject the USB and next time your in the Linux lab, try to boot off the USB drive. The install process is fairly straigh
[21:00] <xubuntu000> that is the jist of it
[21:00] <well_laid_lawn> if your lab comp can boot from usb that should work
[21:00] <well_laid_lawn> you might have to change the boot order in the bios
[21:00] <dbb> we load some data that is windows encoded, windows-1252, and the linux locale is en_US.iso88591 I think.. what is the preferred way to add a locale to a new XUbuntu ?
[21:01] <xubuntu000> I understand how bios works, but i don't know what it means 'download the version for your os and run it' means
[21:01] <well_laid_lawn> OS = operating system
[21:01] <xubuntu000> I go tthat
[21:01] <well_laid_lawn> so windows or linux or mac
[21:01] <xubuntu000> there was only 1 option when i downloaded it
[21:01] <xubuntu000> well, 32 bit or 64
[21:02] <xubuntu000> I extracted the files from 12.04.1 to a folder and put it on my flash.
[21:02] <xubuntu000> Will taht be enough or do i have to actually 'format it' with fat32
[21:03] <well_laid_lawn> I guess he thinks you use windows and when you click on the file the right app will open up to set up the usb
[21:03] <well_laid_lawn> might be handy to check these links
[21:03] <well_laid_lawn> !install
[21:04] <xubuntu000> Thanks for your help @well_laid_lawn
[21:04] <well_laid_lawn> luck :)
[22:13] <Shila> I was needing some specific help with changing my software sources in my xubuntu. I really don't want to have to reinstall yet again.
[22:15] <Shila> hello? is any one there? :)
[22:15] <knome> !ask | Shila
[22:15] <Shila> l
[22:16] <Shila> i am sorry, its hard to tell what is going on in here.
[22:17] <Shila> how do i change my sofeware sources for xubuntu?
[22:17] <Shila> right now it is set to only dl from disk... i need to be able to dl from the internet
[22:18] <well_laid_lawn> !repos | Shila
[22:18] <well_laid_lawn> try the last link
[23:35] <gallowsCalibrato> oh sweet mother of jegus
[23:36] <gallowsCalibrato> anyone actually around?
[23:49] <N1KOL4> anyone know why my title bar vanished when I just tried to change my theme? :/