[04:45] <Awk9000> Hey guys, anyone installed the compat-wireless drivers on ubuntu for Nexus7 ?
[04:45] <Awk9000> I've got source and headers installed
[04:45] <Awk9000> i see that in the kernel config file MAC80211 and CFG80211 are set to Y
[04:46] <Awk9000> do i just have to change the config file to M for modules and then recompile the kernel?
[04:47] <Awk9000> and then I can just compile the compat-wireless drivers from source riiiiiiiiiiiiiight?
[04:47] <Awk9000> meep?
[04:50] <Awk9000> anybody....
[04:51] <Awk9000> ...up?
[08:03] <dholbach> good morning
[08:45] <dholbach> ogra: good morning - how is the raring image looking? :)
[09:15] <janimo> dholbach,  I have just installed the raring image. It needed an external keyboard here to get throught the installer
[09:15] <janimo> artifacts in X, but I use it via ssh now do do non-X stuff so it's fine for me
[09:15] <janimo> but the nux/unity bugfix is not yet in the image
[09:16] <dholbach> really? the nux/unity thing is waiting for ages now :-/
[09:51] <ogra_> dholbach, well, waiting for a nux patch
[09:51] <ogra_> oh, jani said that already :)
 dholbach: it's still being tested, this branch
[09:52] <dholbach>  dholbach: currently it diverged from trunk anyway, so I think Jay needs to re-merge it with lp:nux
[09:52] <ogra_> onboard is usable in the installer
 dholbach: since anyway it cannot be approved, as there are text conflicts ;)
[09:52] <ogra_> you just need to switch it on and switch off orca
 dholbach: I have no nexus7, but I was able to test-build it on my pandaboard and send the whole re-built unity stack it to people responsible
[09:52] <dholbach>  dholbach: so I think we might have it reviewed soon
[09:52] <ogra_> (planning to research today why it comes up that way)
[09:53] <ogra_> generally the images are fine though, apart from the unity/nux breakage
[09:53] <ogra_> the "black bar instead of panel shadow" bug is also back
[09:57] <dholbach> ogra_, but I see that in regular quantal too sometimes
[09:57] <ogra_> well, it was supposed to be fixed with the PPA packages
[09:57] <ogra_> (for quantal that is)
[09:58] <ogra_> you didnt upgrade your device with -security or -updates, did you ?
[09:59] <dholbach> ogra_, sorry I meant on, my regular laptop installation
[09:59] <ogra_> oh
[09:59] <ogra_> that surely shouldnt happen
[10:20] <ogra_> xnox, can you add the PPA URL to bug 1082364 ?
[10:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1082364 in ubuntu-nexus7 "android debugger bridge cant be install on ubuntu on nexus 7" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1082364
[10:20]  * ogra_ forgot which PPA that was in
[10:21] <xnox> ogra_: why is the PPA relevant to that bug?
[10:22] <ogra_> xnox, well, because i doubt anyone wants to SRU the package :)
[10:22] <xnox> ogra_: I only uploaded backported android-fs-tools into the virtualised PPA which has the installer which does not build for armhf. So you won't get adb on quantal through that.
[10:23] <ogra_> oh, ok
[10:23] <xnox> ogra_: or are you after mk_ext4fs for the automated cdimage? then you are free to pull source/binaries for lucid from the installer ppa.
[10:23] <ogra_> no, i'm after adb for that bug :)
[10:24] <xnox> ogra_: I could backport adb to the ppa, but I'd rather people switch to raring to get that =)))))
[10:24] <ogra_> if the user has an opportunity to get it for his release i can close it
[10:24] <ogra_> oh, indeed
[10:24] <xnox> currently there is no "easy" opportunity to get that package on quantal.
[11:07] <ogra_> xnox, https://launchpad.net/~ogra/+archive/ppa/+packages
[11:07] <ogra_> ;)
[11:09] <xnox> ogra_: phhhh..... I wonder who you bribe to get arm builders =)
[11:09] <ogra_> i use the canonical-arm-dev PPA to build them
[11:09] <ogra_> and then copy over binaries and source
[11:12] <xnox> cheat
[11:12] <ogra_> want access ?
[11:13] <xnox> not really needed so far =)
[11:14] <hrw> xnox: which package?
[11:20] <xnox> hrw: the android-tools, since the one in raring builds all of them for armhf as well, while in previous releases it was only built for x86.
[11:20] <xnox> hrw: bug ogra now built the backport in a ppa.
[11:20] <xnox> s/bug/but/
[11:20] <xnox> ^^^^
[11:35] <hrw> xnox: SRU it
[11:40] <xnox> hrw: in my opinion this change does not qualify for an SRU, but rather a backport. As it introduces new binary packges post-release. One could say it's "hardware enablement SRU" but it is pushing it, since it's hardly secure boot.
[11:41] <xnox> hrw: I'd rather encourage people to run raring and focus on raring development.
[11:41] <xnox> hrw: feel free to file SRU request if you want it in quantal/precise =) I just don't have time to work on that.
[11:44] <hrw> xnox: I use only raring for development and when someone says "I am running latest ubuntu" meaning 'last release' I laugh ;D
[11:45] <xnox> ;-)
[11:45] <xnox> hrw: but then I have to write lucid compatible code to be deployed in the DC *sigh* .....
[11:47] <hrw> augh
[11:47] <hrw> I do have 2 precise boxes - my server and router
[11:47]  * xnox bets $0.02 they were running precise before the precise release date.
[11:53] <hrw> server was natty->overic->precise in 3 days
[11:53] <hrw> build precise iirc before release
[12:04] <brendand> xnox, a whole 2c! i want in
[12:11] <xnox> brendand: well when I bet $0.07 you know I'm bluffing. It's a fine art betting multiples of small blind bets.
[12:36] <ogra_> ah, great
[12:36] <ogra_> i found the issue why orca shows up in ubiquity-dm instead of onboard
[12:42] <xnox> ogra_: share the news =)
[12:42] <xnox> bootargs?
[12:42] <ogra_> yeah, sadly
[12:43] <ogra_> (means i need to update them after install)
[12:43] <xnox> ogra_: do you need a new accessibility setting? or like a way to detect a missing keyboard?
[12:43] <ogra_> i think we have a bug open for the latter
[12:44] <ogra_> not related to ubiquity though
[12:44] <xnox> ack.
[12:44] <ogra_> no, i dont need a new function, i think the way it works is fine
[12:44] <ogra_> just need to adapt to it in my code, we need to update the cmdline anyway for UUID stuff
[13:43] <brendand> ogra-cb, what's the difference between pkexec and gksu
[13:44] <ogra_> pkexec is part of policykit and uses the policykit ACLs for access
[13:44] <ogra_> gksu is just a sudo UI
[13:47] <brendand> ogra_ - i'm not au fait with policykit
[13:47] <ogra_> well, its the default authentication technique we use for desktop apps
[13:47] <brendand> ogra_ - it looks like we'd lose the ability to customise the message shown to the user - unless that was added to pkexec
[13:47] <ogra_> since a few releases already
[13:48] <ogra_> it uses consolekit to determine your permissions
[13:49] <ogra_> gksu isnt vanishing from the archive in case you ant to use it in your app (to be able to set the shown message)
[13:50] <ogra_> but it will be removed from the default install
[13:51] <ogra_> brendand, oh, and according to the manpage you can actually set the message
[13:52] <brendand> ogra_ - speaking of problems with gksu. is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/+bug/1078696 gone in the raring image?
[13:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1078696 in ubuntu-nexus7 "gksu does not accept sudo password on the Nexus7" [Low,Confirmed]
[13:52] <ogra_> (a bit more complex than just using a cmdline option indeed)
[13:52] <ogra_> brendand, it will be gone once gksu is gone from the image ... the bug will still be in gksu
[13:53] <ogra_> unless upstream cares to fix it i guess
[13:53] <brendand> ogra_ - oh i see, we have to create a config file to do it
[13:53] <brendand> ogra_ - at least it's possible
[13:53] <ogra_> yeah, some xml crap
[13:54] <brendand> hurray, xml :/
[13:54] <ogra_> heh
[13:54] <ogra_> awesome !
[13:54] <ogra_> my onboard fix for oem-config works just fine
[13:54] <brendand> ogra_ - so even now on the quantal preinstall image if i run my app using pkexec it will accept the password?
[13:55] <ogra_> to sad it didnt make the daily build that just started :(
[13:55] <ogra_> yes
[13:58]  * ogra_ ponders to add the slideshow back to the image ... 
[13:59] <ogra_> we're size wise on the edge so i'm not sure i shoudl do that until we have found a better compression method
[13:59] <ogra_> but the installer looks so ugly
[15:37] <xnox> ogra_: new ubiquity uploaded which should allow to install from sd-card to the remaining space of the sd-card without partitioning it first on a panda.
[15:38] <ogra-cb> yeah. i saw the commits pasing by the last days already, awesome !!!!
[15:38] <xnox> ;-)
[15:51] <dholbach> mfisch, achiang: I mentioned your blog posts in one of mine - if you're not on planet ubuntu we should really get you on there :)
[15:51] <mfisch> dholbach: I'm on planet ubuntu
[15:51] <dholbach> ah great
[15:51] <dholbach> and as I mentioned earlier: some of the content could also go to ubuntu-devel@ :)
[15:51] <dholbach> and then there's the hangouts :)
[15:52] <achiang> dholbach: i'm not an ubuntu member. :(
[15:52] <dholbach> mfisch, thanks a lot for keeping everyone updated!
[15:52] <dholbach> achiang, ... yet :)
[15:52] <achiang> dholbach: want to write a testimonial for me? :)
[15:52] <dholbach> achiang, sure :)
[15:52] <dholbach> did you set up a wiki page already?
[15:53] <achiang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlexChiang
[15:53] <dholbach> sweet
[15:53]  * achiang has been trying to become motu for like 18 months now
[15:53] <ogra-cb> wow
[15:53] <mfisch> you can be a member w/o being a motu
[15:54] <achiang> i was told by some people that i didn't have enough contributions to be a member either
[15:55] <dholbach> achiang, done
[15:55]  * achiang hugs dholbach 
[15:55] <dholbach> achiang, the CC updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership to also include other forms of contributions - I think you should be well-covered now
[15:55]  * dholbach hugs achiang
[15:58] <dholbach> ok, time for the hangout
[16:02]  * lilstevie wonders if his contributions would be considered significant enough
[16:06] <achiang> dholbach: what's the url?
[16:08] <dholbach> ubuntuonair.com
[16:27] <ogra-cb> ssweeny, fyi http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/
[16:28] <ssweeny> ogra-cb, awesome! when did that start happening?
[16:28] <ogra-cb> early last week
[16:28] <ssweeny> oh nice
[16:28] <ogra-cb> we're still waiting for the nux fix ... so the desktop stuff is pretty broken
[16:28] <xnox> ogra-cb: wow, it built today \0/ well done =))))
[16:28] <xnox> ah.
[16:28] <ogra-cb> but you can run apps and blindly tap on the UI
[16:29] <ogra-cb> its enough for testing ...
[16:29] <ogra-cb> (as long as its not unity itself)
[18:26] <Tassadar> ogra-cb: by the way, is initrd in Raring using different compression?
[18:29] <ogra-cb> nop
[18:31] <ogra-cb> just ubuntu defaults everywhere
[18:31] <Tassadar> that is weird, i downloaded the boot.img for raring to see what is different, but gzip says it cannot extract initrd.img
[18:31] <Tassadar> gzip: initrd.cpio.gz: not in gzip format
[18:32] <ogra-cb> how did you pull it out of the bootimg ?
[18:32] <Tassadar> abootimg -x
[18:32] <ogra-cb> hmm, that should work
[18:33] <ogra-cb> oh, apparently is lzma
[18:33] <ogra-cb> must be a change in the build system
[18:34] <ogra-cb> the installed initrd is definitely gzip
[18:34] <Tassadar> yeah, it is lzma
[18:35] <Tassadar> (well, cpio.lzma)
[18:35] <ogra-cb> yes
[18:35] <ogra-cb> sorry for telling you wrong, i wasnt aware, seems to be a change in live-vuild
[18:35] <ogra-cb> *build
[18:39] <Tassadar> hmm, looks like I'm gonna have to do the same ugly thing as I did with 12.10 to multi-boot it. Well, at least I probably won't have to edit the root images