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| dholbach | good morning | 08:03 |
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| ESphynx | oh it's that time again =) Good morning Dan :) | 08:05 |
| obounaim | Good morning dholbach. | 08:05 |
| Rcart | good morning o/ | 08:06 |
| dholbach | hi ESphynx, Rcart :) | 08:29 |
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| obounaim | Hello everybody | 15:18 |
| dholbach | Is anyone interested in the ubuntu development hangout (on air) at 16 UTC (in 20m) and talk a bit about what you're working on? | 15:39 |
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| vibhav | dholbach: I can be there | 15:57 |
| dholbach | vibhav, cool | 15:57 |
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| Laney | dholbach: I'll join you for the next one if you like | 17:03 |
| dholbach | Laney, I'll add you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Hangouts - you mean the one next week or the one early on thursday? | 17:05 |
| Laney | well I'll be away next week | 17:05 |
| Laney | 9UTC might be a bit early ... | 17:05 |
| Laney | put me down for the 11th :P | 17:05 |
| dholbach | awesome | 17:06 |
| dholbach | Laney, any specific topic you'd like to talk about or shall we just wing it? | 17:07 |
| Laney | desktop stuff I've been doing (gstreamer 1.0 porting which has scope for people interested in coding to help with) | 17:07 |
| Laney | motu stuff | 17:07 |
| Laney | release team | 17:07 |
| Laney | all that jazz | 17:07 |
| Laney | backports | 17:07 |
| dholbach | perfect | 17:08 |
| dholbach | thanks a bunch Laney | 17:08 |
| jtaylor | does ony main stuff get added to the jenkins autopkgtest suite or can universe go in there too? | 18:36 |
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| alo21 | hi all | 18:42 |
| alo21 | how can create a debdiff with two dsc which are linked to the same .orig.tar.gz? | 18:43 |
| jtaylor | debdiff *dsc | 18:43 |
| jtaylor | mh markdown is in adt and its universe, are the things added automatically? | 18:45 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: I receive as error that debdiff expects a .orig.tar.gz 1547 MiB instead od 941 MiB | 18:45 |
| jtaylor | wtf | 18:45 |
| jtaylor | what has such a large orig.tar | 18:45 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: let me explane... | 18:45 |
| alo21 | I have two versions of a progarm | 18:46 |
| alo21 | one for example is v 1.0 and the other is 1.1 | 18:46 |
| alo21 | 1.0's dsc is linked to a 1_orig.tar.gz which is for example 75 MiB... | 18:47 |
| alo21 | 1.1's dsc is linked to another 1_orig.tar.gz which is 80 MiB | 18:48 |
| alo21 | so the name of the orig.tar.gz are the same, but che contents are different | 18:48 |
| jtaylor | how can they have the same name but different content | 18:49 |
| jtaylor | the orig tar name must include the version | 18:50 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: I am talking especially about blueman in MoM | 18:50 |
| jtaylor | so the orig tar in debian and ubuntu diverge? | 18:50 |
| alo21 | yes | 18:51 |
| jtaylor | hm | 18:52 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: someone suggests me to merge it by my hand, but this does not resolve the conflict between .dsc files | 18:55 |
| jtaylor | I would merge the debian changes into ubuntu and create a debdiff to the old ubuntu package | 18:55 |
| jtaylor | it can be properly merged next upstream release | 18:55 |
| jtaylor | what is the difference in the orig tar? just compression or is the content differnt? | 18:56 |
| alo21 | between the debian and ubuntu packages there are 53 conflicts... so I think the content is different | 18:57 |
| jtaylor | check why its different please | 18:57 |
| jtaylor | that should not happen | 18:57 |
| jtaylor | conflicts should only happen because someone compressed it differently but the content should stay the same | 18:58 |
| jtaylor | checksum conflicts that is | 18:58 |
| jtaylor | vcs conflicts can arise due to other reasons and are annoying but not necessarily a problem | 18:59 |
| alo21 | jtaylor, strange.. I can't run merge-buildpackage because it says me 'Unmet build dependencies'. This is the first time I occurred this problem | 19:35 |
| gotwig | Hello, Masters | 20:41 |
| gotwig | I have problems with packaging my app for Ubuntu 12.04. It seems to work with packaging for 12.10 and 13.04. : https://launchpadlibrarian.net/124231249/buildlog.txt.gz | https://code.launchpad.net/~gotwig/+archive/foto-fixedpackages/+recipebuild/353068/+files/buildlog.txt.gz https://code.launchpad.net/~gotwig/+archive/foto-fixedpackages/+recipebuild/353067/+files/buildlog.txt.gz | 20:42 |
| gotwig | can someone help pls? | 20:43 |
| gotwig | quadrispro, hey | 20:49 |
| alo21 | jtaylor, I run merge-buildpackage, and I received 'dpkg-source: info: you can integrate the local changes with dpkg-source --commit'... and it created a file (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1392794/) | 21:08 |
| micahg | alo21: Debian has the wrong orig tarball for blueman, so, IMHO, not worth merging | 21:10 |
| alo21 | micahg, do you think is a good idea to open a bug in debian? | 21:11 |
| micahg | debian 691655 | 21:11 |
| micahg | are the bots still missing? | 21:11 |
| micahg | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-proposed/+archive/ppa/+build/4016896 | 21:12 |
| micahg | oops | 21:12 |
| micahg | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=691655 | 21:12 |
| micahg | it would be a fake merge anyways (need to use the Ubuntu orig tarball) | 21:13 |
| alo21 | what 'bots' mean? | 21:13 |
| micahg | so, I'd just suggest making the one change that Debian made for the added dependency if it makes sense and wait for a new upload there | 21:13 |
| micahg | alo21: ubottu and friends | 21:13 |
| alo21 | micahg, If I will make that change on the ubuntu package, I will not able to create the debdiff | 21:14 |
| alo21 | .. | 21:15 |
| alo21 | between the old and the new ubuntu | 21:15 |
| micahg | alo21: you'd need to start with the old ubuntu package and just make that change | 21:15 |
| micahg | (not merge, just make the fix) | 21:15 |
| micahg | making a debdiff in this case isn't trivial anyways | 21:16 |
| alo21 | micahg, mm... I think no worth it | 21:17 |
| micahg | right :) | 21:18 |
| alo21 | thank you so much for your support and spending time on helping me | 21:18 |
| micahg | I think the reason I didn't make the dependency change manually is that it's seeded everywhere already | 21:19 |
| micahg | well, except for kubuntu...but I doubt that people are running a gtk bluetooth manager in KDE | 21:20 |
| jtaylor | meh I'm really wasting buildd cycles... | 21:25 |
| jtaylor | stupid arch/-indep splitting and my inability to test properly | 21:25 |
| alo21 | micahg, do you think doc-debian can be dropped (LP: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/doc-debian) (PTS: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/doc-debian/current/changelog) ? | 21:29 |
| micahg | alo21: why drop? | 21:30 |
| alo21 | because I think all the ubuntu's changes are in debian now | 21:30 |
| micahg | oh, that, maybe try in a PPA | 21:31 |
| micahg | backportpackage can help with that | 21:31 |
| alo21 | micahg, what? I would first import that in raring | 21:32 |
| micahg | alo21: no, use backportpackage to test build the Debian package in your PPA | 21:32 |
| micahg | in raring | 21:33 |
| alo21 | micahg, usaully I use my pc to test the packages.... but my doubt is about merge or sync | 21:34 |
| alo21 | usually* | 21:34 |
| micahg | alo21: right, you won't know with this one most likely unless it's a PPA, it seems to be a soyuz specific failure from the changelog | 21:34 |
| micahg | alo21: so you can test build locally to watch for obvious failures, then if that works, throw it in a PPA | 21:35 |
| micahg | if that works, you can probably request a sync, but did you ask Bhavani if he's working on it since he touched it last? | 21:36 |
| alo21 | micahg, thanks for your advice... I'm going to contact him (do not worry) | 21:36 |
| micahg | thanks | 21:36 |
| alo21 | you are welcome.... but do you think (reading the changelog) that all bugs are fixed in debian too now | 21:39 |
| alo21 | ? | 21:39 |
| micahg | alo21: maybe, it's not explicit, but hinted at | 21:41 |
| jtaylor | builds in the queue are not executed if they have been obsoleted right? | 22:00 |
| micahg | jtaylor: I'm sure you're aware of how to do an arch only build locally, right :) | 22:12 |
| micahg | jtaylor: and yes, obsoleted builds should be skipped | 22:12 |
| jtaylor | yes | 22:12 |
| jtaylor | I just screwed up the testing | 22:12 |
| jtaylor | had the fix in the chroot but not in the tree I did the -S | 22:13 |
| xnox | jtaylor: all packages are added to the jenkins autopkgtest, universe included. | 22:42 |
| jtaylor | xnox: thx | 22:42 |
| jtaylor | when are they built? | 22:43 |
| jtaylor | s/build/executed/ | 22:43 |
| xnox | jtaylor: currently on every upload, the plan is to execute on every package upload as well as re-executing all autopkgtest of the reverse dependencies. | 22:45 |
| xnox | such that we can catch if new packageA breaks packageC & packageD which depend on packageA. | 22:45 |
| jtaylor | neat, though that requires quite some resources :O | 22:45 |
| xnox | not really, as the tests are very simple and quick. We don't have nearly enough tests to start causing a load problem. | 22:46 |
| jtaylor | if its so I can add some tests that take days ;) | 22:47 |
| jtaylor | what does adt actually stand for? | 22:57 |
| jtaylor | what kind of machine is hosting that jenkins instance, its faster than my localhost jenkins at my work pc ._. | 23:06 |
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