[05:23] <nuvolari> o/ mornings oom Kilos 
[05:24] <Kilos> good morning nuvolari 
[05:24] <Kilos> morning all others too
[05:42] <magespawn> morning all
[05:42] <Kilos> hey magespawn 
[05:42] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[05:43] <maiatoday> hi Kilos and all
[06:17] <superfly> morning Kilos, maiatoday, magespawn
[06:17] <Kilos> hi there superfly 
[06:19] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[06:20] <magespawn> hey maiatoday superfly
[06:33] <Squirm> hello
[06:34] <Kilos> morning Squirm 
[06:34] <superfly> hi Squirm
[06:35] <inetpro> Guten Morgen
[06:36] <superfly> inetpro: Guten Morgen
[06:36] <zeref_lappy> morming
[06:37] <Kilos> morming to you zeref_lappy 
[06:37] <Kilos> guten tag inetpro 
[06:38] <zeref_lappy> umm, I'm trying to grep a path: if $xml | grep "DAILY.CRED" where xml=`ls ~/Coding/Bash/files/*.xml`
[06:38] <Squirm> nuvolari: ready for matric vac?
[06:38] <zeref_lappy> when i echo $xml there is no output
[07:33] <Kilos> you doing what wrong zeref_lappy 
[07:33] <Kilos> breathe deep and think it out
[07:43] <zeref_lappy> fixed it :D
[07:46] <Kilos> well done
[08:16] <Kilos> hiya timkeller 
[08:16] <timkeller> Hey Kilos
[08:16] <timkeller> How goes it?
[08:16] <Kilos> good ty and you timkeller ?
[08:16] <timkeller> Good ty
[08:17] <Kilos> you supposed to great when you come on
[08:17] <Kilos> and maybe have some coffee
[08:17] <Kilos> greet
[08:18] <Kilos> one day we will get maaz to auto greet
[08:21] <Kilos> we are a happy family, we say cremora when we arrive
[08:23] <Kilos> lo aquarat Banlam bakuman 
[08:23] <timkeller> Cool :)
[08:23] <Kilos> lol my fingers are too old to greet everyone one at a time
[08:24] <Kilos> what do you do timkeller 
[08:24] <timkeller> I'm a developer
[08:24] <Kilos> maybe you have told and ive forgotten
[08:24] <timkeller> Well, I manage software engineering at http://umoya.net
[08:24] <bakuman> hi Kerbero 
[08:24] <Kilos> thats nice. what
[08:24] <bakuman> oops Oom Kilos 
[08:25] <Kilos> lol dag se bakuman 
[08:26] <Kilos> ah timkeller education. thats good
[08:26] <timkeller> Yeah Kilos, really enjoy my job
[08:28] <Kilos> thats nice to hear. really helps when one is happy in his job
[08:59] <Kilos> only you get old quicker because time flies
[09:02] <Kilos> wat s^E
[09:02] <Kilos> EISH
[09:03] <Kilos> wat se inetpro vandag
[09:03] <inetpro> uh
[09:04]  * inetpro is stil soos 'n tydbom
[09:04] <Kilos> hehe
[09:07] <Kilos> hey you clever guys. what can happen at the end of a drive
[09:08] <Kilos> last 193g of the 2 tB can be used or it crashes even ubuntu
[09:09] <Kilos> cant
[09:11] <Kilos> i wanna fix it
[09:18] <magespawn> Kilos i think that maybe the file system info but that seems big 
[09:23] <Kilos> yeah thats lot to lose
[09:24] <Kilos> can use first 1tB for anything but whole drive no good
[09:24] <magespawn> that is strange
[09:24] <Kilos> so tried parting bit by bit till i got bad parts size
[09:24] <magespawn> did you format the whole drive?
[09:25] <Kilos> yip a few times
[09:25] <Kilos> even low level formatted
[09:26] <Kilos> then with fdisk from win me ive managed to identify the bad bits size
[09:27] <Kilos> formatted with ext4 and fat32 and htfs
[09:27] <Kilos> ntfs
[09:27] <Kilos> i forget
[09:28] <Kilos> normally its the boot sector or the mbr
[09:28] <Kilos> first time i seen end of drive crashed
[09:29] <Kilos> maverick says i/o error at end of drive
[09:29] <magespawn> but 193g is half the dive
[09:31] <Kilos> no man 250 is 1/4
[09:31] <Kilos> but its still weird to have such a large piece messed up
[09:33] <Kilos> win7 is now taking forever to try format it
[09:33] <Kilos> grrr
[09:33] <magespawn> yes thats right sorry maths module is reporting calculation errors
[09:34] <magespawn> maybe physical damage
[09:34] <Kilos> hehe you an old married man with kids so i understand
[09:34] <Kilos> yeah but how?
[09:35] <Kilos> not like it was thrown around
[09:35] <Kilos> crashed in pc after serious virus attack
[09:36] <Kilos> maybe faulty manufacture
[09:36] <Kilos> yo SilverCode wb
[09:36] <SilverCode> ta Kilos
[09:37] <Kilos> sorry to bug you SilverCode but have you joined our mailing lists
[09:37]  * Kilos trying to up the stats
[09:38] <Kilos> hi SmilyBorg_w 
[09:38] <Kilos> wb to you
[09:39] <magespawn> have you scanned the drive with clam?
[09:39] <SilverCode> Kilos: nope
[09:39] <SmilyBorg_w> Hi all
[09:40] <Kilos> drive was dead magespawn  so after all the fdisking and whatever and formatting there cant be any virii left alive
[09:41] <Kilos> SilverCode, ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com
[09:41] <Kilos> ty
[09:42] <Kilos> win me wont use the last 681gB
[09:45] <magespawn> i would not be so sure 
[09:45] <magespawn> win me?
[09:45] <Kilos> millenium
[09:45] <Kilos> xp dont see sata but win me does
[09:47] <Kilos> and 7 is super slow from dvd
[09:50] <Kilos> and clamav wants to do folder by folder if i member right
[09:50] <Kilos> havent found how to do a whole drive yet
[10:07] <Kilos> hehe ive even downloaded dos 7.1 iso magespawn will see what new stuff billy came up with
[10:07] <Kilos> 6.22 cant see sata drives
[10:09] <Kilos> and still wanna lookup and try understand linux fdisk as in man
[10:13] <magespawn> i think there might be a problem with win me, not sure if it will see a 2tb drive
[10:14] <Kilos> i did it in partitions not all at once
[10:16] <magespawn> let me think on this a bit
[10:17] <magespawn> have to go out again just now
[10:17] <Kilos> np ty magespawn 
[10:30] <magespawn> later all
[10:31] <Kilos> go safe magespawn 
[12:45] <Squirm> hello Trixar_za 
[12:45] <Trixar_za> Hello Squirm
[13:20] <acherv> hi @all
[13:20] <Trixar_za> Hi acherv
[13:20] <Trixar_za> I see you're an 8ta user too :P
[13:21] <acherv> Trixar_za: I'm curious to know how to do know that
[13:21] <Trixar_za> [15:19:53] ---» acherv (~acherv@8ta-150-51-250.telkomadsl.co.za) has Joined #ubuntu-za
[13:22] <acherv> oh yes
[13:22] <acherv> Trixar_za: how are u?
[13:22] <Kilos> xchat
[13:22] <Kilos> lo Trixar_za 
[13:22] <Trixar_za> Yeah Kilos
[13:22] <Kilos> hehe
[13:22] <Trixar_za> That makes 3 8ta users now - you, me and acherv
[13:22] <acherv> Kilos: what's up?
[13:23] <Kilos> yeah 8ta rocks compaired to the others
[13:23] <Trixar_za> True, they even have low level data deals now
[13:23] <Trixar_za> lol
[13:23] <Kilos> mind you voda got 20 gig for 4 or 500 bucks now
[13:23] <Trixar_za> I so bought el-cheapo 50MB packages for now
[13:23] <Kilos> ah
[13:24] <Kilos> how much you get for R50
[13:25] <Kilos> im so stuck in my ways of data saving i wouldnt know what to do with 20 gig
[13:25] <Trixar_za> Not much more - R40 is still 100MB
[13:26] <Trixar_za> R25 == 50MB
[13:26] <Trixar_za> R15 == 25MB
[13:26] <Trixar_za> so it's cheaper the higher you buy
[13:26] <Trixar_za> But it's useful when you're below R40 of airtime
[13:26] <Kilos> yeah
[13:26] <Kilos> i dont use any airtime
[13:27] <Kilos> never fone or sms
[13:27] <Kilos> every bit goes to data
[13:27] <Trixar_za> lol
[13:27] <Trixar_za> Yeah, me too
[13:27] <Trixar_za> :P
[13:27] <Kilos> hehe
[13:27] <Kilos> tough in africa
[13:27] <Trixar_za> Although the new whatsapp is now eating some of my data
[13:27] <Kilos> oh my
[13:28] <Kilos> ian keeps telling me to get it on the fone
[13:28] <Kilos> useless if it eats data
[13:29] <Kilos> will force him to use mxit rather
[13:29] <Kilos> pidgin mxit works fine here
[13:29] <Kilos> lol he moans at me says whatsapp is much better
[13:30] <Trixar_za> It's not bad
[13:30] <Trixar_za> but it say somebody sends you a big picture, movie or mp3 (it supports file sends of up to 15MB) it can hurt a bit
[13:30] <Trixar_za> Because it downloads without you asking :P
[13:30] <Kilos> he said something about it doesnt run like mxit
[13:31] <Kilos> ah
[13:31] <Trixar_za> Yeah, with some phones you can't turn it off, just minimize it
[13:31] <Trixar_za> But it's always running in the background
[13:31] <Trixar_za> I use the time I have the sim in the 3G modem to charge the phone
[13:31] <Trixar_za> otherwise it takes ages
[13:32] <Trixar_za> :P
[13:32] <Kilos> hehe
[13:37] <acherv> Kilos: When MS say: Office 2013 would take Open Document Format it's a "good" news?
[13:37] <Kilos> maybe yes
[13:38] <Kilos> but always look for their deeper motives
[13:39] <Kilos> they spoke about making a linux version of windows some year or so back
[13:39] <Kilos> but just talk
[14:17] <Kilos> hiya davey
[16:07] <magtie> Hi Everyone   Kilos
[16:07] <Kilos> hiya magtie 
[16:07] <Kilos> you beat me again
[16:07] <Kilos> sigh
[16:07] <Kilos> was busy with supper
[16:08] <Kilos> im the cook here 6 days a week
[16:08] <magtie> sounds ok
[16:08] <magtie> you eat what you want?
[16:09] <magtie> xept the tmie factor
[16:09] <Kilos> yeah sister and swaar got no choice
[16:09] <Kilos> yeah i cook slowly so on and off all day
[16:10] <magtie> I just installed ubuntu studio
[16:11] <Kilos> and? is it lekker
[16:11] <magtie> Enjoy it very much - so far
[16:11] <Kilos> great
[16:11] <magtie> Xfce interface
[16:11] <Kilos> how big is the download
[16:11] <Kilos> eek
[16:11] <magtie> 2.1 G
[16:11] <Kilos> i wasnt to keen on xubuntu
[16:12] <Kilos> whew big hey
[16:12] <magtie> Disc include many graphics progs
[16:12] <Kilos> ah
[16:13] <magtie> It just copied my Xchat data off normal ubuntu
[16:13] <Kilos> my daughter does lots of drawing
[16:13] <Kilos> anime stuff
[16:13] <magtie> Tell her to check Ubuntu-Studio
[16:13] <Kilos> thats clever
[16:13] <Kilos> i will
[16:14] <Kilos> she very anti anything at the moment
[16:14] <Kilos> pc given 7 months of probs
[16:14] <magtie> her pc not fixed yet?
[16:14] <Kilos> her drawing tablet didnt work on ubuntu
[16:14] <Kilos> no still not
[16:15] <Kilos> hardware prob somewhere
[16:15] <Kilos> but one of her fans offered to donate a pc for her, so who knows
[16:16] <magtie> OK good luck to her - hope she comes right
[16:16] <Kilos> ty
[16:20] <magtie> have to go check something
[16:26] <magtie> Hi,   This is amazing!
[16:26] <magtie> I appointed the same space on my disc for  /home
[16:27] <magtie> Now both Ubuntu12.10 and Ubuntu Studio read the same files.
[16:28] <Kilos> great
[16:30] <Kilos> then all your settings should remain the same
[16:31] <Kilos> so xchat shoulda worked straight off
[16:34] <Kilos> once installed that it
[16:34] <Kilos> s/it/is
[16:38] <magtie> Xchat came with package & it ran streight off
[16:39] <magtie> It also found my printer-driver
[16:40] <Kilos> hehe
[16:46] <Kilos> hi queery 
[17:11] <queery> hi oom kil
[17:11] <queery> hi oom Kilos 
[17:18] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[17:19] <nlsthzn> hey uncle Kilos 
[17:19] <nlsthzn> how are you?
[17:19] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[17:19] <Kilos> whats happening about that loco
[17:20] <nlsthzn> Not to much at the moment... slowly trying to get everyone working together... going to take a few months at lease
[17:21] <Kilos> ah thats ok. what happened to the guys that wanted to hijack it?
[17:21] <Kilos> big stick works
[17:22] <Kilos> tread softly and carry a big stick
[17:24] <nlsthzn> they are the new rulers off us all in a sense... but they need to play nice to keep their position...
[17:25] <Kilos> eish. hard to get community spirit when money is involved
[17:25] <nlsthzn> they say there isn't... time will show
[17:26] <Kilos> how many ubuntu peeps are there nlsthzn ?
[17:27] <nlsthzn> it various... at one stage I would say we where almost twenty peeps actively involved... now with this other group there might be ten people max who seems to give 2 ticks...
[17:28] <Kilos> eish
[17:29]  * nlsthzn thinks in a year or so it might help to revive it all again with new blood... if it is dead, if not then cool :)
[17:30] <Kilos> yeah its just a pity when so much time and effort is wasted
[17:32] <Kilos> we are lucky here we got good peeps
[17:34] <Kilos> wb timkeller 
[17:34] <timkeller> ty
[17:35] <nlsthzn> Anything we do for the right reasons is time well spent I think :)
[17:36] <Kilos> youre right
[17:36] <Kilos> evening superfly 
[17:36] <Kilos> and Vince-0 
[17:39] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:40]  * nlsthzn goes for a shower and a sleepy... 3 more working days then leave for a bit ...weeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEeE?EE?E?e@???WE??!!?!!!
[17:40] <Kilos> sleep tight nlsthzn 
[17:41] <Vince-0> haai
[18:13] <inetpro> sanibonani nonke
[18:14] <inetpro> or rather sanbonani nonke
[18:15] <inetpro> actually both are in use, by the looks of it
[18:15] <inetpro> anyway, good evenng
[18:15] <inetpro> evening as well
[18:15] <inetpro> Kilos: wake up!
[18:16] <kbmonkey> hi inetpro!
[18:16] <inetpro> hi kbmonkey
[18:16] <Kilos> hee hee
[18:16] <kbmonkey> hi Kilos !
[18:16] <Kilos> hi inetpro kbmonkey 
[18:18] <Kilos> how be the monkey
[18:18] <Kilos> inetpro, hows the grass
[18:18] <Kilos> or lawn
[18:18] <inetpro> Kilos: growing
[18:19] <Kilos> and weeds gone?
[18:19] <superfly> Anyone else with ADSL issues?
[18:20] <inetpro> superfly: not me
[18:20] <inetpro> Kilos: nee, ek moet nog by baie plekke spuit
[18:20] <inetpro> en weer spuit
[18:20] <inetpro> by ander
[18:21] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:21] <inetpro> superfly: what's happening?
[18:21] <superfly> inetpro: nothing... which is the problem
[18:21] <Kilos> i sprayed once and they were gone
[18:21] <inetpro> lol
[18:22] <inetpro> 27/11 20:19:12 <superfly> Anyone else with ADSL issues?
[18:23] <inetpro> ahh.. you mean it's just slow?
[18:23] <inetpro> or hanging?
[18:23] <superfly> http://www.afrihost.com/site/network_status
[18:24] <Kilos> hehe at least they apologise
[18:25] <inetpro> increased latency and decreased throughput?
[18:25] <Kilos> that means hurry up and wait
[18:25] <inetpro> superfly: is it very bad?
[18:25] <Kilos> hi smile4ever 
[18:26] <smile4ever> hi Kilos :)
[18:26] <smile4ever> I'm looking for someone who can help me with saving values of a radio button (HTML) with PHP in a MySQL database
[18:26] <superfly> my IRC is fine, but I'm trying to collaborate on EtherPad, and it is slower than molasses in July
[18:26] <smile4ever> I already have code, but it just saves 0 :(
[18:26] <inetpro> lol
[18:27] <smile4ever> database connection is working, too :p
[18:27] <Kilos> molasses be lekker anytime of the years
[18:27] <kbmonkey> lol superfly!
[18:27] <Kilos> thats the black stuff from sugar cane hey?
[18:28] <kbmonkey> see that mythbusters where they swim through molasses
[18:28] <superfly> smile4ever: all radiobuttons in a group need to have the same name, but different values
[18:28] <kbmonkey> or syrup... corn starch
[18:28] <superfly> ehlo kbmonkey
[18:28] <inetpro> smile4ever: you have a url?
[18:28] <inetpro> or code smippet
[18:29] <inetpro> snippet as well
[18:29]  * superfly doesn't do much web since he started hacking on microcontrollers and the like
[18:29] <superfly> and what an awesome change
[18:29] <smile4ever> inetpro: for the code? :p
[18:29] <smile4ever> superfly: I know, I did that :)
[18:29] <smile4ever> www.foad.nu <- there you can see (Wedstrijd) the HTML code
[18:29] <superfly> smile4ever: use a framework... cakephp
[18:30] <smile4ever> no ;)
[18:30] <smile4ever> :P
[18:30] <superfly> smile4ever: then struggle on, and when you're done, let me hack it for you
[18:31] <superfly> in this day and age, doing a site without using a framework is like trying to pick up a bale of hay using a toothpick: just plain stupid
[18:32] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[18:32] <inetpro> eish
[18:32] <inetpro> that is called straight talk
[18:32] <kbmonkey> that's one biiig toothpick
[18:32] <Kilos> that was very funny
[18:33] <Kilos> superfly, i like your style
[18:33] <Kilos> smile4ever, listen to the fly or you can have my email addy
[18:33] <smile4ever> superfly: the site is damn fast without a framework :D
[18:34] <superfly> smile4ever: and it would be even faster if you didn't use PHP
[18:34] <smile4ever> :(
[18:34] <smile4ever> you can't manipulate a database with javascript ;)
[18:34] <superfly> smile4ever: AND, I've done LARGE sites using frameworks, and the frameworks are no slower
[18:34] <kbmonkey> smile4ever, this php example should help -- http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Awww.tizag.com+formex&l=1
[18:35] <superfly> smile4ever: uh, yes you can.
[18:35] <superfly> smile4ever: but it depends on your context
[18:35] <kbmonkey> frameworks abstract reusable patterns to prevent many design flaws too
[18:35] <kbmonkey> actually I can't think of any other reason frameworks exist.
[18:36] <superfly> kbmonkey: in the PHP realm they mostly protect against security flaws
[18:36] <smile4ever> do I need a <select> for radio buttons? :p
[18:36] <kbmonkey> that knockout.js is pretty darn neat 
[18:36] <kbmonkey> ah, great point superfly!
[18:37] <kbmonkey> but tonight I am researching how to make android apps
[18:37] <superfly> kbmonkey: Step 1: Don't use PHP :-P
[18:37]  * kbmonkey agrees with superfly 
[18:38] <superfly> kbmonkey: The Eclipse plugins seem pretty decent, but nuvolari says that IntelliJ from JetBrains is better
[18:38] <smile4ever> superfly: step 2? :p
[18:38] <kbmonkey> I have scrapped all plans to use php. i feel GOOD
[18:38] <superfly> kbmonkey: best development (and career) decision I ever made
[18:39] <kbmonkey> JetBrains make good tools, hit and miss. the agile project manager seems mean
[18:39] <kbmonkey> but their resharper visual studio addon is a resource hog! 
[18:41] <kbmonkey> I got this little android robot speaker guy. plug in usb. play music. cute.
[18:41] <superfly> We use PyCharm at work, and I was able to get a license to use it for my OpenLP open source project
[18:41] <superfly> works very well
[18:41] <superfly> love the debugger
[18:42] <kbmonkey> ooooh
[18:42] <kbmonkey> a pity that android apps prefer java.
[18:43] <superfly> kbmonkey: I'll take Java over PHP any day
[18:44] <kbmonkey> found a game developer company that release a howto for making games
[18:44] <kbmonkey> http://www.kilobolt.com/game-development-tutorial.html
[18:44] <kbmonkey> for reference :)
[18:45] <superfly> kbmonkey: IntelliJ is open source, btw
[18:46] <kbmonkey> ah I'll give it a whirl superfly. thank you!
[18:48] <kbmonkey> going afk for a while, code blue, black ops
[19:04] <magespawn> evening all
[19:24] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[19:24] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[19:24] <magespawn> any more luck with that big drive?
[19:27] <inetpro> ai
[19:27] <Kilos> took from when i said iminstalling wi7 till one hour ago to actually install
[19:27] <inetpro> Kilos: you guys are way to quiet when I turn my back to talk on the phone
[19:28] <Kilos> managed to partition everything even the 193g and trying to format it now
[19:28] <Kilos> lol @ inetpro 
[19:28] <Kilos> like a7 or 8 our install magespawn 
[19:29] <Kilos> thought i had lost most of my ram it was so slow
[19:29] <magespawn> pretty big drive for it to organise a file system on
[19:30] <Kilos> i made the first partition 1 TB
[19:30] <Kilos> and split the rest to 2 more
[19:30] <inetpro> sjoe
[19:30] <Kilos> that end bit last
[19:30] <inetpro> that be a big drive
[19:31] <Kilos> with luck 7 can format it
[19:31] <Kilos> yeah inetpro 2 TB
[19:32] <inetpro> Kilos: what specs?
[19:32] <Kilos> dunno how to find specs
[19:33] <Kilos> what you mean specs inetpro ?
[19:33] <Kilos> 2 TB sata drive
[19:33] <Kilos> what more is there
[19:33] <Kilos> samsung i think
[19:33] <smile4ever> good night! :D
[19:33] <inetpro> manufacturer and speed
[19:33] <Kilos> night smile4ever 
[19:33] <smile4ever> thanks :)
[19:33] <inetpro> smile4ever: lekker slaap
[19:33] <smile4ever> dankie :)
[19:34] <Kilos> where will one find the speed
[19:34] <inetpro> hmm... 
[19:34]  * inetpro scratching his head
[19:34] <inetpro> I forget
[19:34] <Kilos> hehe
[19:34] <inetpro> dmidecode?
[19:34] <Kilos> you forgot what i never knew
[19:34] <Kilos> hehe
[19:35] <Kilos> win7 man
[19:35] <Kilos> ubuntu wouldnt install at all
[19:36] <inetpro> no
[19:36] <inetpro> lshw -class disk
[19:36] <inetpro> ai
[19:37] <Kilos> 195g format complete
[19:37] <Kilos> thats what maverick said was damaged
[19:38] <Kilos> win7 very stupid
[19:38] <Kilos> wont allow the gigabyte cd to install sis drivers automatically
[19:38] <Kilos> had to go roundabout
[19:38] <Kilos> grrr
[19:39] <Kilos> .    /me kicks billy
[19:40] <Kilos> once everything is formatted ill set it to run chkdsk on next boot
[19:40] <inetpro> Kilos: no win7 is not stupid at all
[19:40] <inetpro> they just make it look stupid on purpose
[19:40] <Kilos> if all good ill then install ubuntu
[19:40] <Kilos> rofl
[19:40] <inetpro> they want you to buy many multiple different softwares to do the same thing
[19:41] <Kilos> how can it not allow the mb drivers to install
[19:41] <Kilos> stupid
[19:41] <Kilos> 3.3g dvd and no nvidia drivers as default
[19:44] <Kilos> and now it wants to auto activate in three days
[19:44] <Kilos> grrr
[19:44] <Kilos> i wish billy's poepol would grow closed
[19:45] <Kilos> inetpro, i even got a dos 7.1 iso today
[19:45] <Kilos> hehe
[19:45] <inetpro> Kilos: to find out the brand, model number, and other general info about your hard drive in Windows 7
[19:45] <inetpro> click on Start, then the Control Panel
[19:45] <inetpro> select Systems and Maintenance
[19:45] <inetpro> navigate to Device Manager
[19:45] <inetpro> click OK to get past a security notice (maybe)
[19:46] <inetpro> click Disk Drives to show the HDD info
[19:46] <Kilos> ok sec
[19:46] <inetpro> oops...
[19:46]  * inetpro just posted that on #ubuntu-za ?
[19:46] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:46]  * inetpro hides in the corner
[19:47] <Kilos> what?
[19:48] <Kilos> rofl
[19:48] <Kilos> hee heee heeee
[19:48] <Kilos> you want my email addy again
[19:48] <inetpro> Kilos: we're not supposed to say anything about that OS in here
[19:48] <Kilos> oh yes we can because why
[19:49] <Kilos> i have to use it to make drive ubuntu friendly
[19:49] <inetpro> uh
[19:50] <Kilos> samsung HD204UI SCSI disk device
[19:51] <Kilos> i will use whatever tools i can to repair drives to make them ubuntu friendly
[19:53] <Kilos> i think i got first testimonial in the wiki thing for us
[19:53] <inetpro> spin speed is limited to 5400 rpm
[19:54] <inetpro> designed to keep power consumption and operating temperatures to a minimum
[19:54] <Kilos> so i set the example now its for you guys to follow and put more so our reapproval looks good
[19:54] <Kilos> is it a good drive inetpro ?
[19:55] <Kilos> gave me weeks of on and off struggles
[19:55] <Kilos> still formatting 585GB partition
[19:57] <Kilos> win7 is really stupid with xp you right click a drive and then choose format
[19:58] <Kilos> it shows here but doesnt try till you go chkdsk then it says it must first be formatted
[19:58] <Kilos> grrr
[19:58] <inetpro> Kilos: nice testimonial!
[19:58] <Kilos> ty
[19:59] <Kilos> just had wrong release there for the start
[19:59] <Kilos> started with 8.04 then corrie gave me the alternate cd to upgrade to 8.10
[20:00] <inetpro> Kilos: Pros: Good read speeds for large files thanks to SATA-3 interface | Low power consumption | Quiet
[20:00] <inetpro> Kilos: Cons: Apart from reading large files, performances are quite poor
[20:00] <inetpro> Kilos: that is according to: http://www.digitalversus.com/internal-hard-drive/samsung-ecogreen-f4-hd204ui-p10886/test.html
[20:02] <Kilos> i think its slow but then the drive was completely missing when i first started on it
[20:02] <Kilos> only bios saw it
[20:02] <Kilos> lol 12.04 marked all the partitions as /storage
[20:03] <Kilos> but i set it up as / /boot /home /storage
[20:03] <inetpro> another one says: "green drives aren't about performance; here power is king, along with price. If those two variables are key in your purchase decision, then in the 2TB capacity there isn't a better choice than the F4EG"
[20:03] <inetpro> HD204UI = Samsung Spinpoint F4EG
[20:05] <Kilos> oh so its ok then
[20:05] <Kilos> worth saving
[20:05] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[20:05] <Kilos> wish it was mine
[20:06] <Kilos> never have enough data to fill it
[20:06] <Kilos> hehe
[20:07] <inetpro> Kilos: I put the link for reapproval ^^
[20:07] <Kilos> what you changed
[20:07] <Kilos> ah gracias
[20:08] <Kilos> now get more peeps to testimonial thing
[20:08] <Kilos> you and fly for starters
[20:08] <Kilos> you like the ballies here now
[20:08] <inetpro> Kilos: it will happen, sooner or later
[20:08] <Kilos> and crashkid and weed
[20:08] <Kilos> before the reapp thing man
[20:09] <inetpro> BTW, I fixed your signature below your posting
[20:09] <Kilos> oh and confluency
[20:09] <inetpro> just to make it nice, neat and consistent
[20:09] <Kilos> actually would be good for a few that use other flavours to say why they use ubuntu-za
[20:10] <Kilos> what signature
[20:10] <Kilos> hehe
[20:10] <Kilos> ty
[20:10] <inetpro> -Miles Sharpe (Kilos)
[20:10] <Kilos> i couldnt even post it there myself
[20:10] <Kilos> asked maia to do it for me
[20:11] <Kilos> would open there by testimonials
[20:11] <inetpro> Kilos: when I have time I take you through the ropes
[20:11] <Kilos> and when logged in it went to wiki and i couldnt get back
[20:11] <inetpro> should be very easy to do for yourself
[20:11] <Kilos> lol its all the ropes that are hanginging me man
[20:11] <inetpro> but we can play in a sandbox or such
[20:12] <Kilos> lol
[20:12] <Kilos> ty
[20:12] <Kilos> but its done now
[20:12] <Kilos> ty for fixing it
[20:12] <inetpro> np
[20:13] <inetpro> Kilos: just keep reminding us when we forget
[20:13] <inetpro> drubin: please tell us about the stats when you have time
[20:13] <Kilos> sjoe
[20:13] <Kilos> he was here today
[20:14] <Kilos> he said maia took avoer but didnt say where he got the stats from
[20:14] <Kilos> over
[20:14] <inetpro> ai, seems like one busy dude
[20:15] <Kilos> ya
[20:15] <Kilos> sad though he was very active here
[20:16] <Kilos> so where have they hidden the command prompt
[20:16] <Kilos> grrr
[20:16] <inetpro> hope he didn't get swallowed on the dark side
[20:16] <magespawn> win Kilos?
[20:17] <Kilos> ya 7
[20:17] <Kilos> haha inetpro like walter
[20:17] <inetpro> Kilos: start | Run | cmd
[20:17] <Kilos> with pipes?
[20:17] <inetpro> nee man
[20:17] <magespawn> like that no pipes
[20:18] <magespawn> i am off, good night all
[20:18] <inetpro> click Start, Click Run, type cmd, press ENTER
[20:18] <Kilos> no run to see here
[20:18] <inetpro> ai
[20:18] <Kilos> night magespawn 
[20:18] <magespawn> open box at the bottm after you click start
[20:18] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry, I don't know then...
[20:18]  * inetpro hasn't really used win7 that often
[20:18] <Kilos> np sir
[20:19] <Kilos> will get a 4lb hammer and know it out somewhere
[20:19] <magespawn> all programs , accesories, i think
[20:19] <magespawn> any way night 
[20:19] <inetpro> night magespawn
[20:19] <inetpro> slaap lekker
[20:20] <Kilos> yay got it ty magespawn 
[20:20] <Kilos> entered cmd in the search thing
[20:21] <Kilos> grrr access denied
[20:23] <Kilos> wish sudo or sudo -i worked on it
[20:23] <Kilos> im the admin user how can it not accept a format command from me
[20:23] <Kilos> grrr
[20:26] <Kilos> it plays funny little sounds though
[20:26] <Kilos> haha
[20:33] <Kilos> scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors
[20:38] <Kilos> wb kbmonkey 
[20:38] <Kilos> toods
[20:38] <Kilos> peer got him
[20:42] <Kilos> shhhh
[20:55] <Kilos> night guys. sleep tight
[22:15] <bakuman> show