[00:08] <PhoenixSTF> N1KOL4, I have no idea
[00:08] <PhoenixSTF> where did you get the theme?
[00:15] <dork> I can't seem to get autologin working with lightdm/xubuntu 12.04, anyone know if there are any known issues with this
[00:19] <Unit193> Though I haven't tried it recently, should work fine.  Did you read the FAQ?
[00:19] <Unit193> !faq
[00:37] <blackgatonegro> I have a weird bug in one of my ubuntu accounts the theme is all wrong
[00:37] <blackgatonegro> *xubuntu*
[00:38] <dork> Unit193: seems to be impacting accounts that got migrated over when i copied from shadow/passwd/group
[09:12] <xubuntu723> hello
[09:13] <xubuntu723> I'm a new user of Linux, and i'm trying to instal Acrobat reader, and It does't work right.
[09:14] <xubuntu723> how can i instal acrobat in xubuntu
[09:41] <xubuntu285> hello
[09:41] <xubuntu285> is anyone familiar with installing b.u.t.t. on xubuntu?
[09:54] <xubuntu285> I take it the channel is busy, no one is here, or I really have forgotten how to use IRC
[10:52] <yhusha> trying to get an app to work and it requires read write file permission in some folders tried allowing this through right lick but it doesn't get anywhere
[10:54] <koegs> yhusha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[10:58] <mahmoud__> Hi. How to enable WebGL in Chromium??
[11:03] <yhusha> koegs it says all the directories have full permissions but still this app shows warning /home/yhusha/tmp.... appears to be mounted read only could this have something to do with in properties there are sections that say file access and there is 4 options  a line or read,   read/write, and none and these settings wont change to read and write
[15:08] <lovre> hi all
[15:08] <baizon> !hi | lovre
[15:09] <lovre> im having trouble using thunar with large SVN folder (~10K files) and rabbitcvs. It just freezes. Is there any common solution, or other software to solve this problem?
[15:11] <baizon> lovre: try the cli
[15:12] <baizon> lovre: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[15:12] <lovre> baizon: its kind of time consuming checking for modifications with cli, and updating specific files, etc. Its just much quicker with some svn software
[15:20] <lovre> baizon: found out thunar-vcs-plugin, checking it out.
[15:20] <baizon> ok
[15:24] <lovre> baizon: hmm, blazing fast compared to rabbit, but still missing some key features...
[15:26] <baizon> :)
[15:27] <Guest5173> any body familiar with the cannot mount problem in UCK]
[15:59] <c2tarun> anyone using f.lux?
[16:01] <raytray> I'm using redshift as opposed to f.lux
[16:01] <raytray> I could not not get f.lux working c2tarun
[16:02] <c2tarun> raytray, is redshift similar to f.lux?
[16:07] <c2tarun> raytray, is there anyway to configure redshift?
[16:07] <c2tarun> I kind or executed redshift -l 18.5204303:73.8567437 and my whole screen deeply red now. is there anyway to minimize it?
[16:08] <raytray> Try the -t flag, do man redshift, theres the neutral/default values for day/night, so you can probably set it to less extreme values
[16:16] <c2tarun> raytray, I tried 6000:4000 and its very extreme, can you please suggest me some value?
[16:16] <c2tarun> raytray, what is your value?
[16:17] <c2tarun> raytray, I am also able to see redshift in try icon but I dont think there is any GUI to control the color temperature. Am I right?
[16:17] <ohyran333> Is anyone in here good with laptops and laptop screens?
[16:17] <c2tarun> ohyran333, you can directly ask your question.
[16:18] <raytray> c2tarun, I do not believe so. I have not played around with it much. I keep the efault values, try values closer to neutral
[16:19] <c2tarun> raytray, what is neutral value?
[16:21] <c2tarun> raytray, got it :) its 6500
[16:22] <c2tarun> raytray, I dont think redshift is working, I tried redshift -l 18.5204303:73.8567437 t 6500:6500    technically I shouldn't see any change in screen but I saw considerable redness
[16:24] <raytray> Did you do -t?
[16:24] <kidx> i need help i get alot of crashes and snap to window wont disable any ideas?
[16:28] <holstein> kidx: i might make a new user to test... test the crashing apps with this new user and the default config files it generates
[16:29] <kidx> yes sometimes upgrades crash and somtimes wont load.
[16:29] <kidx> you know upgrade software
[16:29] <holstein> kidx: if you stop an upgrade, i would expect issues
[16:29] <kidx> few other apps crash
[16:29] <kidx> and no I never stopped it it has a crash report
[16:30] <kidx> also snap to window woint disable do you have that issue
[16:30] <holstein> kidx: when you say "upgrades crash".. that makes me think an upgrade didnt complete
[16:30] <c2tarun> raytray, ohh... :) thanks
[16:30] <kidx> no the updater crashes
[16:30] <holstein> kidx: i wouldnt worry about the UI issue.. i would open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update" and report errors in pastebin
[16:31] <holstein> kidx: i would consider trying a new user temprorarily to troubleshoot the config files in your user account
[16:31] <kidx> yea but dont they gotta fix this as well for a better user experience
[16:32] <holstein> kidx: they?.. you mean the developers?.. there really is no "they".. we are they.. you and i.. and myself or one of the other voluteers can likely help you with the issue that you are having.. which so far, doesnt seem to be xubuntu-wide
[16:33] <holstein> !pastebin | kidx for the error output of sudo apt-get update
[16:33] <kidx> Snap to window not disabling is not an issue ? or is it?
[16:34] <holstein> kidx: i wouldnt worry about the UI issues right now.. i would run "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal, and lets see if you have package issues
[16:34] <holstein> kidx: im assuming the "snap to window" issue is a symptom
[16:35] <kidx> I alwasy have ti no matter what from install?
[16:35] <kidx> also will there be better ATI support?
[16:36] <holstein> kidx: you can always ask ATI to provide you/us with better support for the products they create, but i would expect with steam coming to linux, hardware vendors will be more likely to provide us with support
[16:36] <kidx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1392072/
[16:38] <kidx> well I really want to beable to game on Xubuntu smoothly now that would be nice also what about AMD fireing some workers there?
[16:38] <holstein> kidx: you should ask amd about the employee situation
[16:39] <kidx> yea I should if they developed better drivers then they would get more sales right?
[16:39] <holstein> kidx: nothing in ubuntu or xubuntu is preventing you or anyone else from gaming, nor creating games that run great in linux
[16:39] <kidx> that snap to window is annoying though.
[16:40] <holstein> W: Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 165.254.32.64 80]
[16:40] <holstein> kidx: i wouldnt worry about the UI issues right now.... lets fix this, ok?
[16:40] <holstein> kidx: i would go in and remove that skype source... you can edit the sources
[16:40] <kidx> how do I do it again
[16:41] <kidx> whats the source list link
[16:41] <holstein> i sometimes use synaptic as a GUI for that, since its arguable easier.. but there should be an actual menu item called "sources"
[16:42] <kidx> oh sometimes apps inthe settings area wont launch.
[16:43] <holstein> kidx: is the sources one launching?
[16:44] <kidx> yes but sometimes it don't.
[16:45] <kidx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1392091/
[16:46] <holstein> ok.. i would run "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[16:46] <kidx> ok
[16:47] <holstein> i would reboot if needed.. feel free and pastebin things you have questions about.. i would check the UI elements at reboot.. i would make a new user and test there, thus taking your user config out of the equation for troubleshooting purposes
[16:47] <kidx> thanks alot i really liek Xubuntu
[16:47] <kidx> once these issues are fixed ill enjpy this more.
[16:48] <holstein> kidx: well, its important to entertain that nothing is "broken".. but maybe something that got mis-configured.. such as the 404 skype source
[16:50] <kidx> ok is it normal for your window to snap with snap disabled?
[16:52] <holstein> kidx: lets not bother with "normal"... describe best what is happening and what you would like to have happen.. and test as another user as well
[16:53] <kidx> how do i make another user again
[16:53] <kidx> what i would like is when i drag a window to the top or bottom on accident it wont stretch across my screen.
[16:54] <koegs> thats not snapping, that is tiling :)
[16:55] <holstein> yup... the snap settings wont effect that.. you have that info right off your hat koegs ?
[16:55] <koegs> nope, not sure how to disable it :D
[16:56] <holstein> kidx: i would do it in the GUI, or in the terminal *after* the upgrades go through... sudo adduser username
[16:56] <koegs> "Automatically tile windows when moving toward the screen edge"
[16:57] <kidx> ok
[16:57] <kidx> brb gona test ok
[16:58] <koegs> this has to be disabled in Settings -> Window Manager
[17:02] <kidx> still doing it kinda weird?
[17:03] <kidx> Guess i just gotta live with it
[17:04] <kidx> thansk for all your help Holstein.
[17:05] <holstein> kidx: sure.. and feel free to elaborate as to what "it" and "weird" are, and im sure someone can help
[17:05] <dbb> Hi all - we load some data that is windows encoded, windows-1252, and the linux locale is en_US.iso88591 I think.. what is the preferred way to add a locale to a new XUbuntu ?
[17:06] <kidx> what it is as I akready have said is the snap to windows stays enabled when disabled no thats weird well maybe to me.
[17:06] <holstein> dbb: i literally have no idea waht you are talking about... you need to change a keyboard layout?
[17:06] <dbb> the list of known locales... it's returned by  localw -a
[17:06] <dbb> locale
[17:06] <holstein> kidx: that is not snap though.. i would try and take screenshots, and not use terms
[17:07] <holstein> kidx: tiling is what you were talking about before
[17:07] <holstein> dbb: ive never had an issues opening windows data.. what is the issue when you try just using the data?
[17:08] <kidx> well dragging a window to the top of the screen and have it stretch to fit the screen is annoying how do I disable tiling then.
[17:08] <dbb> in postgresql, a locale is passed for several database configuration parameters.. its baked into a new database, once on open
[17:08] <dbb> postgres just passes the locale param to the system
[17:09] <dbb> so to create a new database with a particular set of encodings in certain places, the locale has to be known to the system
[17:09] <dbb> I notice that the list of known locale's in a bare install is quite minimal
[17:10] <dbb> compared to this mac laptop I am typing on, whose locale -a returns just over 200 locales
[17:10] <koegs> kidx: disable "Automatically tile windows when moving toward the screen edge" in Advanced Window Manager Settings...
[17:10] <dbb> five variations of english for example
[17:11] <kidx> dont have that
[17:12] <Juan_Moreno> just got my xubuntu 12.04 totally working! show time!
[17:13] <kidx> found it
[17:13] <kidx> its under Accessibility
[17:14] <holstein> dbb: im sure you can add locales.. lemme look
[17:14] <kidx> fixed
[17:14] <kidx> thansk alot for the help working right now
[17:14] <Juan_Moreno> people always help here. :)
[17:15] <holstein> kidx: the terminology is key.. its *not* snap.. that was throwing me.. in the future, just say, to the best of your abilities what is happening and what you would like to have happen to the volunteer
[17:16] <kidx> I did say it lol
[17:16] <kidx> I thought it was snap casue they both do the similar thing
[17:16] <kidx> but all that is annoying
[17:16] <holstein> kidx: yup.. but you can look back at the log anytime and see how long it took to get there, and also the few times it was referred to as "tiling"
[17:17] <holstein> kidx: its not a big deal.. im just trying to save you time in the future
[17:17] <kidx> well thansk for teh help one more reason to love Xubuntu
[17:18] <kidx> by the way I have my taskbar opened apps move to the left like a ticker maybe once lol.
[17:19] <kidx> now that is not an option is it?
[17:19] <holstein> kidx: the list of open/running windows?
[17:20] <kidx> yes on taskbar
[17:20] <holstein> they "move to the left" ?
[17:20] <kidx> what ever is opened scrolls to the left on its own that was messed up I had this issue before with XFCE weird?
[17:21] <kidx> I think its a XFCE dev issue IMO
[17:21] <holstein> kidx: havent seen it.. try and get a screenshot of it after it happened.. or come here or an xfce channel while its happening
[17:22] <holstein> kidx: could be a bug. isolated to your harware. only happening to you... or maybe misconfiguration
[17:22] <kidx> well screen shot wont do any thing i need a video and its kinda hard when its random lol.
[17:23] <holstein> kidx: thats why i said *after* it happens..
[17:23] <kidx> its somthing to do with maybe the code conflicting with apps?
[17:23] <kidx> a code confilict
[17:23] <holstein> kidx: could be a bug... a gtk issue.. since everyting is changing
[17:23] <holstein> kidx: the code is all open, have a look if you like...
[17:24] <kidx> gtk?
[17:24] <kidx> is that gnome
[17:25] <holstein> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B
[17:25] <holstein> xfce utilizes GTK.. lxde.. its not gnome per se.. im just offering a scenario where you might see a bug
[17:27] <kidx> Gnome founded i think from what i see
[17:27] <kidx> Gnome is junk to be honest.
[17:27] <holstein> kidx: you can search/read and remove all doubt
[17:27] <kidx> all doubt of what gnome be junk
[17:28] <holstein> kidx: when you say "i think".. you can just read and know
[17:28] <holstein> also, some volunteers here might be responsible for maintaining or developing gnome
[17:29] <kidx> you do know I think is my opinon or saying somthing and does not mean i am always right some times i am unsure.
[17:29] <kidx> but from what I read its Gnome who developed it withc explains the issues.
[17:29] <holstein> im sure no one would mind if you state your opinions aobut gnome in a proper off-topic channel such as #xubuntu-offtopic ,but saying its junk is a statement of opinion
[17:30] <kidx> well this is leading me here to support when my taskbar apps scroll any how
[17:31] <holstein> and if you can elaborate on what you think is causing it, im sure we can help
[17:32] <kidx> that I don't know my guess is code conflicts or an error in code any thing can be the cause really.
[17:35] <holstein> kidx: sure, but what code? what app? is it configured correctly? is it in the main repos?
[17:35] <kidx> what you mean configured correctly explain
[17:35] <holstein> i would say, next time it happens, come here or an XFCE channel and try and recall what led up to the issue
[17:35] <kidx> oh
[17:36] <kidx> I had more apps opened than the taskbar can handel then it done that
[17:36] <kidx> so now to avoid that I dont open as many windows casue the task bar dont extend well
[17:38] <holstein> you can buttonize them, or group similar ones.. or dont use that panel, or pager
[17:39] <holstein> kidx: everything is customizable. if you dont like the functionality of a part, you can usually easily change it, or swap the part out
[17:43] <kidx> how i grpups similar onse
[17:43] <holstein> kidx: i find those settings in the right-click menu of that pager in the panel
[17:43] <holstein> "group similar tasks".. something like that
[17:45] <kidx> what you mean in the panel
[17:46] <holstein> kidx: the xfce panel where the pager is.. down where those icons that i think you are refering to appear
[17:50] <kidx> whats a pager?
[17:50] <holstein> kidx: well, im refering to the area where running applications are listed in the panel.. which is what i assume you are asking about
[17:51] <kidx> right click and go to preferences right
[17:51] <GridCube> "windows buttons" area
[17:51] <kidx> panel preferences
[17:52] <holstein> kidx: not the panel prefereces.. you might need to try a few time til you right click the proper setttins area
[17:52] <holstein> kidx: that is the correct general area though
[17:52] <kidx> what settings do i need again
[17:53] <kidx> got it
[17:53] <holstein> kidx: i would check the ones about grouping.. make sure those are as you want them to me
[20:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, anyone used skype with xubuntu/xfce here?
[20:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://imgur.com/A7SJC this is the ui i get :S
[20:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://imgur.com/k90QP another screeny :L
[20:19] <holstein> WhereIsMySpoon: i use it all the time
[20:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> holstein: with xfce?
[20:19] <knome> WhereIsMySpoon, isn't that what you asked?
[20:19] <holstein> sure.. with all of them.. i would look at the version you are using.. reinstall
[20:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> knome: just checking
[20:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> holstein: i tried both from the repos and the deb from skype's website
[20:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> holstein: this is newly installed
[20:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> holstein: skype 4.1 for linux
[20:21] <holstein> WhereIsMySpoon: i might try as a different user, to take my config out of the equation.... you can try with another DE if you feel it is xfce related
[20:21] <holstein> sorry.. i gotta run
[20:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> holstein: np thanks
[22:13] <ohyran333> Hi. I've had some long winded and rather weird issues with my laptop screen aswell as booting into xubuntu (balancing deamons are involved)
[22:15] <ohyran333> To cut a long story short its basicly an issue of the Asus UX32VD, intel graphics and the internal monitor not being accepted (unless I do like nomodeset and i915.modeset=0 in which case the whole thing freezes mid-boot)
[22:38] <Zelouille> Hello. I'm trying to make a desktop for my grand mother. She has never used a computer, so, i'm trying to keep it simple, readable, and fixed.
[22:40] <Zelouille> Because it's for a eeePC, i'd like to put maximus on it. But it doesn't seams to work all the time with xfce. Does someone get it to work properly ?
[22:41] <knome> Zelouille, i don't think how well that's supposed to work
[22:42] <knome> Zelouille, i'd probably do an even simpler interface
[22:42] <knome> remove pretty much all panels, only add large icons on the desktop (you can control the icon size)
[22:44] <Zelouille> knome, in fact, that's work quite well. But not the first time you launch an application.
[22:44] <knome> i've no experience with maximus
[22:50] <Zelouille> knome, yes, for now, i have : large icons, one-clic interface, no drag & drop. A only a top panel with a desktop shortcut, taskbar, indicators, and a close button (can close applications, and shutdown the computer when no more apps). I'm gonna look for xfce kiosk mode too.
[22:51] <knome> i'd probably lose the indicators.
[22:51] <knome> and the close button in favor of one on the desktop
[22:52] <knome> i've done a few of this kind of installations, and non-technical people really don't need the close button on the panel
[22:52] <knome> they will just close any application anyway
[22:52] <knome> so better not clutter the interface
[23:04] <Zelouille> yeah, i surely drop the indicators in the first time. Not a bad idea to put the shutdown button on the desktop too.
[23:04] <Zelouille> But, well, the close button replace the one from the window-decoration. But, when there is no more apps in sight, the button will open the shutdown popup.
[23:05] <knome> Zelouille, right, then that makes sense
[23:05] <knome> Zelouille, you probably want to uninstall apport too, so you gm won't get notifications of crashed applications
[23:06] <knome> Zelouille, some with updates. i assume she has internet, so just install an ssh server and update remotely
[23:06] <knome> *same
[23:19] <Zelouille> knome, thanks, nice idea for apport. Yes i will do update myself too.
[23:21] <Zelouille> knome, there are three images, if you want to see what it looks like with maximus : http://fabule.dyndns.org:8000/virtualbox/mamie/
[23:24] <knome> Zelouille, np, and not bad at all :)
[23:25] <knome> Zelouille, i think i'm actually going to write a blog article about this some time (hopefully before the new year), thanks for the extra boost of motivation :)
[23:27] <knome> Zelouille, if you want to read it, it'll appear in http://open.knome.fi/ sooner or later :)
[23:35] <Zelouille> knome, haha, you're welcome. Thanks for the link, i'll read it the day it'll come. There is a lot of things to do to simplify a desktop, but not often very documented.