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| dholbach | good morning | 07:19 |
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| fmoreau | hello | 08:40 |
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| dholbach | can anyone reply to https://twitter.com/yuvilio/statuses/273566993171492864 please? | 09:33 |
| infinity | dholbach: It should be roughly the same, hardware-wise, as a Chromebook, if that's helpful. | 09:40 |
| ogra_ | right | 09:41 |
| infinity | dholbach: There's kernel work and hobbyist fun going on there, but not by us. | 09:41 |
| * ogra_ isnt aware of any official statements about the nx10 though | 09:41 | |
| ogra_ | i guess a chromebook kernel might show up in the archive before release | 09:42 |
| ogra_ | so someone who would try to get it to work should be able to | 09:42 |
| infinity | I'm still tossing around the idea of getting an American to send me a Chromebook. | 09:42 |
| infinity | Which would give me incentive to maintain a kernel in the archive. :P | 09:42 |
| ogra_ | (cant be to much difference between the two) | 09:42 |
| infinity | Part of me is still holding out for Lenovo to make an ARM laptop, so I don't have to compromise on my love of Lenovo keyboards. | 09:43 |
| infinity | But I could be waiting a long time for that... | 09:43 |
| RaYmAn | n10 kernel is...rather different for some reason., | 09:44 |
| RaYmAn | they don't use DTB's | 09:44 |
| RaYmAn | but other than that, it should be trivial. | 09:44 |
| dholbach | thanks everyone | 10:04 |
| ogra-cb | dholbach, oh, and a sidenote, no redistributable GLES drivers for the nexus 10, unless that exists its very unlikely for us to switch to it simply because we cant run unity | 10:30 |
| hrw | http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2012/11/28/lets-compare-some-cpu/ - you may find it interesting | 10:30 |
| dholbach | ogra-cb, if the guy replies I'll let him know :) | 10:31 |
| ogra-cb | k | 10:31 |
| ogra-cb | that could become our general answer to that faq :) | 10:31 |
| ogra-cb | (i hear that question once a week, but ignore it most of the time ... ) | 10:31 |
| hrw | ogra-cb: n10 has same problem as chromebook | 10:33 |
| ogra-cb | yes | 10:34 |
| ogra-cb | but has no chromeos to hack around the issue | 10:34 |
| hrw | ogra-cb: if you can spare 363MB of data and 1.4GB of disk space then I have solution | 10:34 |
| ogra-cb | on the chromebook you can at least pull the libs from chromeos | 10:34 |
| hrw | s/data/network data/ | 10:34 |
| ogra-cb | cant do that on the nexus10 | 10:34 |
| ogra-cb | you have a 363MB download that solves the licensing ? | 10:35 |
| hrw | chromebook recovery image can be fetched | 10:36 |
| hrw | but user would have to do it ;( | 10:36 |
| hrw | the real pita of exynos5 is lack of any license infromation in chromium os (or I did not yet found it) | 10:37 |
| hrw | https://dl.google.com/dl/edgedl/chromeos/recovery/chromeos_2913.84.10_daisy_recovery_stable-channel_mp-v2.bin.zip | 10:38 |
| hrw | fetch, unpack, use kpartx to split partitions, mount ROOT-A as ro, copy files | 10:38 |
| hrw | 363MB zip, 1GB img | 10:39 |
| hrw | http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chromeos-localmirror is also useful if you know what you are searching for. | 10:39 |
| hrw | but no libmali there | 10:39 |
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| lardman | hrw: libmali is the userspace closed lib? | 10:54 |
| hrw | yes | 10:54 |
| hrw | lardman: long time - how things? | 10:54 |
| lardman | hrw: indeed, not bad, 14month old daughter has sort have put a hold on hobby coding up till now | 10:55 |
| lardman | but now we're getting at least some sleep, I'm looking for some hw :) | 10:55 |
| hrw | lardman: ;) | 10:55 |
| hrw | 14m should be able to sleep whole night I think | 10:55 |
| lardman | hrw: If you'd like to tell her that I'd be happy ;) | 10:56 |
| hrw | lardman: ;)) | 10:56 |
| lardman | So back on topic, are there blobs for the Mali 400? | 10:57 |
| hrw | no idea of mali400 | 10:58 |
| hrw | you have exynos4 or allwinner a10? | 10:58 |
| lardman | nothing yet, umming and arring about the Nexus 10 | 10:58 |
| hrw | nexus10 has mali t604 | 10:59 |
| lardman | alternatively the Nexus 7, but I'd quite like to do some on-device opencl (if an sdk is released eventually) | 10:59 |
| lardman | yeah, was just wondering whether they are just running slow releasing the relevant files | 10:59 |
| hrw | I would not assume that Samsung will release anything | 10:59 |
| lardman | the opencl sdk should come from ARM I'd have thought | 10:59 |
| lilstevie | howdy lardman | 11:11 |
| lardman | hey lilstevie | 11:11 |
| lardman | am heading over to your neck of the woods early next year | 11:11 |
| lardman | well not necessarily that close, but closer than here anyway | 11:12 |
| lilstevie | heh | 11:12 |
| lilstevie | where abouts? | 11:12 |
| lardman | Adelaide | 11:12 |
| lardman | to visit family | 11:13 |
| lilstevie | ah fair enough | 11:13 |
| lilstevie | not close, but closer :p | 11:13 |
| lardman | yep | 11:13 |
| lardman | hmm, interesting that the only installer for the the latest Mali OpenGL ES SDK for Linux on ARM is a Windows MSI file... :) | 11:20 |
| lardman | nothing interesting in there though, shame | 11:22 |
| ogra_ | xnox, did you btw research why the current /usr/lib/ubiquity/wallpaper fails or did you only look at compiz integration yet ? | 11:30 |
| xnox | ogra_: working at compiz bits right now. Did not troubleshoot the wallpaper fail yet. | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | xnox, ah, finally found the bug again (and gave it a better title) bug 1081260 | 11:49 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1081260 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/ubiquty/wallpaper crashes after boot of livecd" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1081260 | 11:49 |
| xnox | ogra_: well it's interesting, but the "crash" reproducer is wrong as it needs to be called with the path to background (and error message says so) | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 11:50 |
| xnox | ogra_: but yeah, I'm in gtk right now to fix a compiz bug ;-) | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1394259/ | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | thats his actual error in the ubiquity-dm log | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | seems also that wallpaper.c still uses gtk2 | 11:51 |
| ogra_ | bug 1048976 | 12:04 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1048976 in ubuntu-wallpapers (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Update default ubuntu wallpaper to quantal version" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048976 | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | oha ! | 12:26 |
| ogra_ | plymouth works if i enable debugging | 12:26 |
| hrw | ogra-cb: which kernel argument? | 12:27 |
| ogra_ | plymouth:debug | 12:27 |
| hrw | cool | 12:27 |
| hrw | btw - what plymouth does other than bootsplash? cause I do not see any difference when boot chromebook without plymouth | 12:27 |
| ogra_ | well, i also have break=bottom enabled might be that there is a race i avoid through that | 12:28 |
| ogra_ | bootslpash is an in kernel hack | 12:28 |
| hrw | ? | 12:28 |
| ogra_ | thats the only "bootsplash" i know | 12:28 |
| hrw | ok, let me rephrase... what plymouth does at all? | 12:29 |
| ogra_ | hmm, dropping plymouth:debug still gives me a splash | 12:29 |
| ogra_ | hrw, libplymouth does all kernel-userspace interaction (like a poor mans dbus for UI stuff, i.e. passwords, fsck input etc) | 12:30 |
| ogra_ | thats why i.e. mountall requires it | 12:30 |
| ogra_ | the rest is just bling | 12:30 |
| ogra_ | hmm, so am i brave and try it without break=bottom now ... | 12:31 |
| ogra_ | at the risk of having to reinstall my nexus | 12:31 |
| hrw | thx | 12:31 |
| * ogra_ doesnt get why it breaks at install time so badly | 12:32 | |
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| ogra_ | aha ! | 12:34 |
| ogra_ | so it crashes id i dont have either plymouth:debug or break=bottom set | 12:34 |
| hrw | http://code.google.com/p/chromium-os/issues/detail?id=36717 | 12:39 |
| ogra_ | ++ | 12:40 |
| hrw | will fill similar ones for bunch of others | 12:41 |
| hrw | openmax, mfc firmware | 12:41 |
| ogra_ | openmax, yeah | 12:41 |
| hrw | ogra_: http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chromeos-localmirror/distfiles/openmax-0.0.1-r5.tbz2 | 12:41 |
| hrw | ogra_: binaries only | 12:42 |
| ogra_ | do they work ? | 12:42 |
| hrw | ogra_: no experience with openmax here | 12:42 |
| ogra_ | i only have experience with gst-omx | 12:43 |
| ogra_ | that doesnt look like it would be anyhow related to gst | 12:43 |
| hrw | yep | 12:43 |
| xnox | ogra_: both ubiquity panel & wallpaper are gtk3. | 12:46 |
| ogra_ | ok | 12:47 |
| ogra_ | i thought i saw a gtk2 header but seems i looked at precise code here | 12:48 |
| ogra_ | (sorry for the false alarm due to that) | 12:48 |
| xnox | ogra_: interesting bug 296538 | 12:51 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 296538 in unity-2d "warty-final-ubuntu.png is actually a JPEG file" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/296538 | 12:51 |
| xnox | ogra_: /me ponders if the wallpaper works on e.g. xubuntu. | 12:51 |
| ogra_ | a bit old though | 12:51 |
| ogra_ | that wouldnt explsin it on the nexus7 though | 12:52 |
| ogra_ | *explain | 12:52 |
| ogra_ | we use the default ubuntu-wallpapers wallpaper | 12:52 |
| xnox | ogra_: red-herring or something got strict. | 12:52 |
| * xnox sees no wallpaper in the amd64 VM | 12:52 | |
| ogra_ | ah | 12:53 |
| ogra_ | so not arch or flavour specific | 12:53 |
| xnox | kvm that is. | 12:54 |
| xnox | anyway, fixed the compiz bug will do a merge proposal now =)))) | 12:55 |
| xnox | ogra_: compiz is the last fallback, so on the images you'll need to somehow unseed metacity. | 12:56 |
| ogra_ | what i still wonder is why g-s-d doesnt just default to draw the wallpaper | 12:57 |
| ogra_ | it should just use the system defaults the desktop uses later too | 12:57 |
| * ogra_ files bug 1084063 | 13:00 | |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1084063 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "plymouth in raring seems to have a race condition on the nexus7" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1084063 | 13:00 |
| ogra_ | i have not the slightest idea how to debug this :( | 13:00 |
| ogra_ | the kernel goes into a reboot loop so i wont be able to capture any info | 13:00 |
| ogra_ | xnox, oh ! if i can unseed metacity, i can re-seed the slideshow i guess | 13:24 |
| ogra_ | without it eating all my space | 13:24 |
| xnox | ogra_: well merge proposal is up. As soon as it's reviewed, I'll merge and upload new ubiquity ;-) | 13:25 |
| ogra_ | xnox, approved ;) | 13:27 |
| ogra_ | xnox, i'm wondering though if we couldnt merge all these /proc/cmdline parsing into one function and set all vars we need at the top | 13:27 |
| xnox | ogra_: cheat. what about three-pairs of eyeballs? =) | 13:28 |
| ogra_ | well, if you feel like | 13:28 |
| ogra_ | i assume you have tested that before requesting | 13:28 |
| xnox | ogra_: also on nexus do you need to move the ubiquity because of onboard? | 13:28 |
| ogra_ | move ? | 13:29 |
| xnox | ogra_: yes, literarly move the ubiquity window around the desktop | 13:29 |
| ogra_ | the current nexus image is fine apart from missing slideshow and wallpaper | 13:29 |
| * xnox didn't enable that compiz plugin, nor resize. | 13:29 | |
| xnox | ack. | 13:29 |
| xnox | ok, merge and upload I guess =) | 13:29 |
| ogra_ | onboard cares for that itself | 13:29 |
| xnox | cool =) | 13:29 |
| ogra_ | if it detects it covers the focused input area *it* moves around | 13:30 |
| ogra_ | no need to move the windows ;) | 13:30 |
| ogra_ | its a bit jumpy in the user setup screen | 13:30 |
| ogra_ | but nothing we can avoid atm | 13:30 |
| ogra_ | unless we switch to ion3 or awesome and use a fixed two pane layout ;) | 13:31 |
| * xnox glares at ogra for daring to mention tiling window managers | 13:33 | |
| ogra_ | hey its a tablet, they are perfect for that | 13:33 |
| ogra_ | its the predecessor to BathroomWindows^WWindows Metro | 13:34 |
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| * ogra_ adds various sleeps to the initrd init to see if that helps plymouth | 14:01 | |
| ogra_ | hmm, no, doesnt look like | 14:01 |
| ogra_ | YAY ! | 14:15 |
| * ogra_ updates bug 1084063 | 14:19 | |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1084063 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "plymouth in raring seems to have a race condition on the nexus7" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1084063 | 14:19 |
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| ogra_ | bug 1083723 | 16:27 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1083723 in upstart (Ubuntu Raring) "'telinit u' has a cage fight with busybox init" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1083723 | 16:27 |
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| vanhoof | ogra_: are the new dailes down in size to not have to use -S? | 18:01 |
| ogra-cb | vanhoof, yes, they should just work now (limited to 6G indeed) | 18:08 |
| vanhoof | ogra-cb: sweet | 18:08 |
| ogra-cb | i havent tested todazs, but yesterdays was fine | 18:09 |
| ogra-cb | *todays | 18:09 |
| [mbm] | did anyone ever get anywhere with nexus7 multiboot? | 20:14 |
| Tassadar | yeah) | 20:14 |
| [mbm] | link? | 20:15 |
| Tassadar | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403 | 20:15 |
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| xnox | ogra_: can we purge https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch/QemuDebootstrap, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootStock from the face of earth | 23:52 |
| xnox | ogra_: and redirect people to: $ ubuntu-core images or $ mk-sbuild --arch armhf raring | 23:52 |
| xnox | ogra_: do we have cloud-init armhf images? those work great with quick download & launch a qemu instance. | 23:53 |
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