[13:53] <raub> Was trying to do an update and am being told no space left (http://pastie.org/private/kvzzfymhuaimjletbgb1bq) on the device.
[13:53] <raub> Do I take that is in /var? If so, I thought that I had enough space for such things (almost a GB free).
[14:08] <geirha> Certainly looks like you have enough space on every filesystem of consequence
[14:08] <geirha> raub: Run   watch -n1 'df -h'  in a separate terminal, then run the apt-get again and see where it eats space
[14:09] <raub> geirha: thanks! Lemme try
[14:12] <raub> geirha: /usr went from 864 to 876M and /var went from 983 to 984M
[14:12] <raub> That is nothing
[14:13] <raub> Or, this is rather ridiculous
[14:14] <raub> And this machine has 4GB of RAM
[14:19] <geirha> Hm. Could there be some quota on one of those filesystems perhaps?
[14:20] <raub> geirha: I built that guy without quotas. But, just to make sure, is there a quick way to figure out?
[14:21] <raub> BTW, I can increase the sizes of the diff lvs (/var, /home, etc), but I would feel stupid if I did that without knowing what really happened
[14:22] <geirha> I haven't messed much with quota so I couldn't say
[14:22] <geirha> try creating a 10MiB dummy file under /var
[14:22] <raub> geirha: me neither, which is why AFAIK it is not there.
[14:22] <raub> Sure thing
[14:22] <geirha> dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=10 of=/var/tmp/delete_me
[14:23] <raub> (you type way faster than me ;)
[14:23] <geirha> df claims var has 22G space, ~1G used, and ~1G available. That doesn't add up
[14:23] <geirha> so there's probably some quota thing there
[14:24] <raub> Ok. Bad cut-n-paste
[14:24] <geirha> or maybe it's just a copy/paste error? 22G is really 2G?
[14:24] <geirha> ah
[14:24] <raub> Yep :)
[14:26] <raub> geirha: http://pastie.org/private/8l966wll5waszpsb2n604w
[14:27] <raub> I even just created a 200MB file in that same dir. No problems there either
[14:27] <geirha> Hm. I'm running out of ideas.
[14:28] <geirha> Perhaps try an strace
[14:28] <raub> on apt?
[14:28] <geirha> strace -f apt-get -f install
[14:28] <geirha> Might show where the error originates
[14:34] <raub> A bit more messages than I expected :)
[14:34] <raub> capturing output and trying again
[14:35] <geirha> probably only need writes
[14:36] <geirha> strace -f -e trace=open,close,read,write ...
[15:03] <raub> Down to 59567 lines... from 200K
[15:07] <geirha> search for ENOSPC
[15:14] <raub> geirha: should I be concerned about the repeating 4096 here: http://pastie.org/private/izh22v36wviiq007msrlq
[15:14] <raub> I mean, it looks like the write is not advancing
[15:16] <raub> (I might be reading too  much in there too)
[15:19] <geirha> I'll be disconnected soon. It's patch day, but anyway. Did you find where ENOSPC occurs?
[15:20] <raub> can't find that pattern
[15:20] <geirha> It does look a bit odd that it keeps writing the same data to fd 1 over and over, but it may be it just looks like it's the same data.
[15:20] <geirha> Hm. Odd.
[15:21] <raub> geirha: you need to go. I wonder if there is an issue in the lv I am not detecting
[15:22] <raub> dmesg does not help me much here because my firewall is filling it up
[16:34] <rick_le_feuvre> I'm a new user of ubuntu, but a long time Windows user. I've installed 12.10 and I'm sure there must be some way to set certain programs to load at boot. However, I'm not sure where to look to set that up.
[16:36] <raub> rick_le_feuvre: I *think* that if you start a given program and its icon shows on the tab thingie, you can left/right/sideways click on it and tell it to start on boot
[16:43] <rick_le_feuvre> it looks like my only options are to either boot the program or unlock it from "Launcher". I would guess that there must be an editable list somewhere of programs that load on boot.
[16:52] <raub> I *think* the boot option is what you want. I am on a centos desktop right now. If you give me a bit of time I can start my ubuntu 12.04 laptop
[16:55] <rick_le_feuvre> There's this utility on the Launcher called Dash Home and I navigated through it to an application called "Startup Applications". However, there is no help function I can see, so I've simply added Firefox and Thunderbird to it. I was planning on simply rebooting and seeing if I've got it set up right.
[16:58] <rick_le_feuvre> well, apparently I didn't to that right.
[16:59] <zizo> hi, I'm a very new user of ubuntu. Just installed it into may laptop alongside windows. in ubuntu warless is not working. My computer is Dell Inspiron 1525. Any one please help me?
[17:01] <rick_le_feuvre> in "Startup Applications" I need to enter the name of the app and then a Command (whatever that is). Anybody got any idea about what it means when it asks for a Command??
[17:37] <escott> rick_le_feuvre, it would be /usr/bin/firefox
[17:39] <rick_le_feuvre> thank you escott. I've seen references to a slash/dot. Is that required as well?
[17:41] <escott> rick_le_feuvre, ./command means is a relative path (it does not begin with a "/" so it is by definition relative). it is relative to "." which is the current directory.
[17:41] <escott> in your case there is no current directory for startup applications
[17:41] <escott> or at least you dont know what it would be. and the absolute path from the filesystem root / to /usr/bin/firefox is what you want
[17:42] <rick_le_feuvre> OK, thanks for the clarification. Coming from the Windows world where everything is made easy for you, I feel more than a little lost in linux land.
[17:42] <escott> many of us feel the same way about windows
[17:42] <rick_le_feuvre> lol
[17:43] <escott> you just need to learn how unix does things. it makes very good sense once you are used to it
[22:45] <soind> I was logging in to ask something. I think I read that HUD will replace global menu in future versions.  Is this the case, or will they continue to exist side-by-side?