[01:53] <veebers> If I remaster the desktop iso to include a custom preseed.seed file, what are the correct boot parameters I need to pass to make it work?
[01:54] <veebers> most of the guides I've seen seem out of date (mentioning /install/initrd.gz but from what I can see it should be /casper/initrd.lz)?
[17:21] <xnox> cjwatson: there is proposal from design team to take the "third-paty (proprietary) software checkbox" and move it from the prepare screen to all the way to the end, post user setup as "one last thing"
[17:22] <xnox> cjwatson: as far as i can see it does two things currently: drivers via ubuntu-drivers-common and installing ubuntu restricted meta-package.
[17:23] <cjwatson> one sec while I refresh my memory
[17:23] <xnox> is this technically possible to do? should / shouldn't be done?
[17:24] <xnox> (the "install updates" checkbox will stay on the prepare screen)
[17:25] <cjwatson> ubuntu-restricted-addons doesn't much matter - that's handled after all questions have been asked in any case
[17:25] <cjwatson> I'd be concerned about ubuntu-drivers though; don't we rely on this to install non-free network drivers where necessary that could be used during installation, so you'd lose geolocation on the timezone page?
[17:26] <cjwatson> that's the only problem I see; if you determine it's not a problem, go nuts
[17:27] <xnox> cjwatson: my crazy thought, was to apply the restricted policy, recognise the network driver to be a hardware-driver and run ubuntu-drivers for network & wifi cards without any UI
[17:28] <cjwatson> that'd be permissible if it works :)
[17:28] <xnox> cjwatson: but not the 3D graphics drivers, as people may choose to use llvm-pipe or free drivers instead of the proprietary once.
[17:30] <cjwatson> They aren't loadable while ubiquity is running anyway
[17:30] <xnox> true.
[17:32] <xnox> but currently that checkbox does all: ubuntu-drivers (network, wifi, graphics) & ubuntu-restricted-addons.
[17:32] <xnox> Ok, i'll talk to pitti about ubuntu-drivers and if it can do network,wifi & free graphics separate from non-free graphics.
[17:38]  * cjwatson nods
[17:45] <xnox> cjwatson: btw - do you have any more d-i merges in progress, or am I ok to upload ubiquity?
[17:45] <xnox> ogra is eager to drop metacity on nexus7 to regain space.
[17:45] <cjwatson> not right now, and none of them are urgent anyway; go ahead
[17:46] <cjwatson> and yeah, your compiz branch looks OK to me
[17:46] <cjwatson> (but I see ogra's already reviewed it)
[17:47] <cjwatson> I suspect this will cause compiz to be used by default on Ubuntu images too
[17:47] <cjwatson> I mean, normal x86 desktop
[17:47] <cjwatson> Which is probably OK but just so you know ...
[17:49] <xnox> cjwatson: because metacity is not seeded? *sigh*
[17:50] <xnox> cjwatson: well.... compiz must work in the installed system cause we don't have fallback.
[17:52] <cjwatson> because compiz is in the expansion of the desktop seed, and so germinate will see that ubiquity's dependency is already satisfied by an inner seed and not bother to add metacty
[17:52] <cjwatson> +i
[17:52] <cjwatson> if you wanted to avoid that, you could explicitly add metacity to ubuntu.raring/live
[17:54] <xnox> cjwatson: i'd like to keep seeding metacity as the "revert" if people complain / notice breakage with compiz.
[17:55] <xnox> I guess Edubuntu is affected if they want to keep using metacity for the installer instead of compiz. stgraber?!
[17:55] <xnox> all other flavours already use their own default WM.
[17:56] <cjwatson> yes, the same thing would go for Edubuntu
[17:57] <stgraber> edubuntu will stll ship metacity because we ship gnome-session-fallback which depends on it
[18:01] <xnox> stgraber: good.
[18:10] <xnox> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.raring/rdepends/metacity/metacity
[18:10] <xnox> and because openjdk-7 build-deps on metacity it will not fall out of main.
[18:11] <ogra-cb> *build*-depends ?
[18:11]  * ogra-cb shakes head
[18:11] <cjwatson> test suite, presumably