[01:50] <nikolam> I find this interesting regarding manipulating personal data with unity. Hope i helps understand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGLxjppFqeA&feature=related
[01:50]  * nikolam sleeps and is sorry needs to go away
[08:36] <mmrazik> didrocks: I have a good news and bad news :-)
[08:36] <mmrazik> didrocks: we have nvidia with binary drivers and it gives similar results to ati/intel
[08:36] <didrocks> mmrazik: sweet! :)
[08:36] <mmrazik> the bad news is that there are a lot of new failures for some reason
[08:37] <didrocks> mmrazik: what is the bad news there? :)
[08:37] <didrocks> oh?
[08:37]  * didrocks looks
[08:37] <mmrazik> didrocks: from the video it looks like there might be indeed something broken. The calc icon in launcher shows up after significant delay
[08:37] <mmrazik> i.e. first calc is started and then it takes ~2 seconds for the icon to appear
[08:38] <didrocks> mmrazik: interesting, but at least, this is coherent across all config?
[08:38] <mmrazik> didrocks: yes, it is
[08:38] <didrocks> what's the name of the autopilot job already? I always fight to find it :/
[08:39] <mmrazik> oh... seems its not published
[08:39] <mmrazik> which is weird
[08:40] <mmrazik> mhm.. it is configured for publishing
[08:41] <didrocks> mmrazik: ok, seeing
[08:41] <didrocks> mmrazik: hum, I think sil2100 can maybe have a look at that? like, looking if it's reproduceable on his raring for the day
[08:41] <didrocks> mmrazik: and eventually working with bregma for this?
[08:41] <didrocks> mmrazik: at least, good that the "nvidia" case is fixed
[08:42] <didrocks> mmrazik: oh, relaunching one?
[08:43] <mmrazik> didrocks: I tried to relaunch.. just to see how consistent it is
[08:43] <mmrazik> but it should be fairly consistent as it was reproduced on 3 different machines
[08:44] <didrocks> yeah
[08:44] <didrocks> let's see if sil2100 who is up to date I guess reproduce
[08:44] <didrocks> to see if it's a regression from raring itself or trunks
[08:45] <didrocks> I guess the autopilot delays are relaxed enough?
[08:46] <mmrazik> didrocks: not sure about this sort of stuff. I don't think we wait for the icon to appear. As soon as the app is running we probably expect the icon is there (which sounds sane to me).
[08:46] <mmrazik> didrocks: when I look at the video the delay seems to be long enough for me to be considered a bug
[08:48] <didrocks> mmrazik: ah, so the app appears
[08:48] <didrocks> but not the icon
[08:48] <didrocks> ok, got it :)
[08:48] <didrocks> so yeah, something happened
[08:48] <sil2100> What's up?
[08:48]  * sil2100 reads up
[08:49] <sil2100> Autopilot tests failing?
[08:49] <sil2100> Will look at that then
[08:52] <didrocks> thanks sil2100 :)
[09:27] <didrocks> popey: wants to do some reviews? I have a bunch of branches for you:
[09:27] <didrocks> https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/libgrip/bootstrap/+merge/136591
[09:27] <didrocks> https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/geis/bootstrap/+merge/136590
[09:27] <didrocks> https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/grail/bootstrap/+merge/136589
[09:27] <didrocks> https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/evemu/bootstrap/+merge/136588
[09:27] <didrocks> https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/frame/bootstrap/+merge/136587
[09:29] <didrocks> popey: on the things that needs checking is that the first line doesn't have "raring" but "UNRELEASED"
[09:45] <popey> :)
[10:01] <didrocks> popey: thanks!
[10:12] <popey> np
[11:13] <nikolam> do you think Unity fulfill Ubuntu Code of conduct agreement?
[11:14] <popey> nikolam, people sign the CoC, unity is software, software doesn't sign the CoC
[11:15] <nikolam> popey, I understand. So people pushing unity got to have signed CoC?
[11:15] <popey> what do you mean by "pushing unity"?
[11:16] <nikolam> popey, including Unity in Ubuntu.
[11:17] <popey> that's somewhat vague
[11:17] <popey> could mean including packages in the archive, on the cd, or by default in the distro
[11:17] <popey> either way, the answer is yes
[11:18] <nikolam> Great.
[11:18] <popey> I mean, I personally haven't audited every single persons CoC signage, I am trusting our processes for MOTU, core dev and other leadership positions are working.
[12:00] <xnox> popey: i wonder if ^^^^ It was meant to be contributors agreement instead of CoC.
[12:01] <popey> no, it was very specifically CoC
[12:01] <popey> nikolam was concerned that the decision to put unity in the desktop violates the CoC
[12:01] <popey> putting the interests of the company above the interests of the users, and de-humanizing the experience via privacy issues.
[12:03] <xnox> popey: ok. although i fail to see which point/part of CoC nikolam is referring to though.
[12:06] <popey> "Ubuntu is about showing humanity to one another: the word itself captures the spirit of being human" - nikolam was asserting that this was violated by Unity sending "outgoing data streams" (video/shopping lookup)
[12:07] <popey> I suggested they bring it up in more discussion oriented channels if they feel strongly about it.
[12:07] <xnox> ack
[12:13] <Mirv> didrocks: regarding bamf, you didn't object to these two build related commits, are those fine for SRU? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/bamf/bamf-0.2/revision/477 + http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/bamf/bamf-0.2/revision/479
[12:13] <didrocks> Mirv: let me have a look
[12:14] <didrocks> Mirv: good catch, yeah, they should be out as well
[12:14] <Mirv> didrocks: ok, good, then we'll finally have a proper 0.2 branch :)
[12:14] <didrocks> Mirv: sweet! :)
[14:00] <didrocks> sil2100: how is it going with this debugging?
[14:12] <sil2100> didrocks: looking at that, I had some autopilot problems here - it seems to be more of a bamf issue than autopilot though
[14:13] <didrocks> sil2100: so you reproduced it locally?
[14:15] <sil2100> No, not really, tests are working fine on my machine, but I'm running quantal, and maybe it's related to the ecosystem of raring + bamf - not sure yet
[14:15] <sil2100> But I have the same bamf version, just for quantal
[14:15] <didrocks> sil2100: hum, that was what I asked you this morning about in fact :p
[14:15] <didrocks> ah
[14:15] <didrocks> mmrazik: ^
[14:31] <mmrazik> bregma: can you (or somebody from your team) have a look on this: https://code.launchpad.net/~mrazik/unity/coverage-support/+merge/136345 ?
[14:32] <mmrazik> I would need that to get some data on regular basis
[14:32] <bregma> mmrazik, ack
[14:32] <mmrazik> but I think its my first cmake exposure...
[14:32] <mmrazik> bregma: thanks
[14:38] <flohack> Is anyone of the unity core developers aware of https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/995039 (Drag n Drop between windows not working on latest LTS)?
[14:53] <didrocks> fginther: thanks for all the work on the oif stack btw! everything is fine :)
[14:53] <fginther> didrocks, you're welcome
[15:33] <bobweaver> would any one that is good at nux like to help me out ? it is layout and padding work. I am new to it still trying to understand it. will post page
[15:34] <bobweaver> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tv-developers/ubuntutv/trunk/view/head:/dash/ff-tv/DashView.cpp     :: Lines 373  -- 428
[15:35] <bobweaver> like I tried to make a new layout for the dash but it dosent do what it is told. like I set{min,max}width  on lens_bar_ and it still paints accross full screen I will take screen shot
[15:38] <bobweaver> Uploading video so you all can see what I am talking about
[15:41] <bobweaver> video is not public nust have link  here is link
[15:41] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb1vMKSIK5c
[15:45] <bobweaver> Jason are you around ? the NUX guy ?  Help how to anchor widgets to new layouts ?
[15:47] <bobweaver> Item {id:foo ; anchors.fill: parent; height: 60 ; width: 40 } Image {id:picfoo; anchors{top:foo.top;left:foo.left}}
[15:48] <bobweaver> like that but with nux ^^
[16:04] <didrocks> Mirv: nice post! You've just been quoted on the French forum btw :p
[17:05] <bobweaver> Hello again. What is the best time (UTC) to ask for help on this channel ?  maybe when the most unity-devs are around ?  I am guessing that it will be like 10:00 UTC ?  kinda hard to find help .
[17:08] <Mirv> didrocks: thanks ;)