| MutantTurkey | This ThinkCentre works awesome with wheezy. I am really pleased. Wheezy is really nice overall | 01:04 |
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| MutantTurkey | spotify even works with it :-) | 01:04 |
| InHisName | TheLordOfTime: I used mesh running shoes. Did not work out so well,,,, socks got soaked, although feet weren't all that cold. 2 driveways cleaned 23 minutes. | 01:54 |
| MutantTurkey | quick question - is there a way to access stuff dynamically within my network? | 01:59 |
| MutantTurkey | or that is crazy? | 02:00 |
| MutantTurkey | say I have a domain, and I'd love to attached each one of my computers to a subdomain | 02:00 |
| MutantTurkey | like desktop-01.mutantturkey.com and such | 02:00 |
| MutantTurkey | so I could easily ssh into them each | 02:00 |
| InHisName | ought to be able to do that | 02:02 |
| ChinnoDog | sup MutantTurkey | 02:27 |
| MutantTurkey | hey dude | 02:28 |
| MutantTurkey | got synergy setup | 02:28 |
| ChinnoDog | Welcome to clipboard mayhem | 02:28 |
| ChinnoDog | Synergy works ok most of the time but it causes all sorts of weird things to happen to the clipboard in my experience | 02:29 |
| erstazi | @ping | 02:31 |
| waltman | MutantTurkey: gobble gobble! | 02:33 |
| MutantTurkey | I've survived another thanksgiving | 02:34 |
| MutantTurkey | ChinnoDog: I really want a better keyboard actually | 02:34 |
| MutantTurkey | that's what I need -_- | 02:34 |
| MutantTurkey | I have a complete crap logitech keyboard and I miss my laptop | 02:34 |
| MutantTurkey | but I love my desktop monitor and mouse :[ | 02:34 |
| MutantTurkey | I want a thinkpad keyboard for my desktop | 02:34 |
| waltman | MutantTurkey: we were worried! | 02:34 |
| waltman | however, it's still gobbler season at Wawa | 02:35 |
| MutantTurkey | I know, I like to avoid the holidays altogether :p | 02:35 |
| MutantTurkey | actually I have successfully avoided all radio - christmas music so far. | 02:35 |
| ChinnoDog | I avoid holiday music until a few days before Christmas. | 02:42 |
| waltman | It's impossible to avoid. | 02:42 |
| ChinnoDog | I don't listen to the radio or watch TV so not impossible for me | 02:43 |
| MutantTurkey | same here | 02:43 |
| MutantTurkey | I don't own a radio or TV. | 02:43 |
| MutantTurkey | or cable rather - I have a TV for playing videos and such | 02:44 |
| Sadin | MutantTurkey ChinnoDog waltman, any of you have an old small rack mount you might consider selling? | 03:26 |
| MutantTurkey | didn't InHisName have one?!? | 03:27 |
| MutantTurkey | or did you not purchase one from him | 03:27 |
| Sadin | No i did not | 03:27 |
| MutantTurkey | I might have a hookup for you though, let me ask. I have a friend who is a IT manager at a company and was talking to him last weekend | 03:27 |
| MutantTurkey | Sadin: did he have one or did you not get it? | 03:27 |
| MutantTurkey | he said he has some old stuff | 03:27 |
| Sadin | MutantTurkey he had one | 03:27 |
| MutantTurkey | and/ | 03:27 |
| Sadin | id just like a small not to advanced one for my room | 03:28 |
| Sadin | MutentTurkey i havent talked to him in a long time | 03:28 |
| Sadin | dont know what happend to it | 03:28 |
| waltman | Sadin: I don't, but maybe JonathanD does? Seems like the kind of thing he collects. :) | 03:28 |
| * waltman is grumpier than usual tonight. | 03:28 | |
| Sadin | waltman :( | 03:28 |
| waltman | I ordered an ipad online during Apple's Black Friday sale on Friday. But I fat-fingered my address on the order. This has caused the delivery to be delayed from Saturday to Wednesday. | 03:33 |
| waltman | This morning they were toying with me by changing the status to "On FedEx vehicle for delivery". That meant "We pulled it off the old truck to slap a new label on it, and now it's on a different truck for delivery TOMORROW. | 03:34 |
| waltman | I called in the address change Saturday afternoon, and they didn't do anything about it at the FedEx warehouse until Tuesday morning. | 03:35 |
| MutantTurkey | was there a good discount? | 03:40 |
| MutantTurkey | Sadin: why do you need a rack | 03:41 |
| MutantTurkey | I suggest getting a regular old desktop. Easier form factor to work with and doubles as a desktop? | 03:41 |
| MutantTurkey | other than the fact that racks are cool as shiznizzle | 03:41 |
| Sadin | MutantTurkey was buying a 55$ Rack server just to play with | 03:41 |
| MutantTurkey | 55 is cheap | 03:42 |
| MutantTurkey | I just got this ThinkCentre for like 60 bucks | 03:42 |
| Sadin | Mutant Turkey yeah i know its just a pentium4 and 1GB RAM but for a server to play on thats fine | 03:42 |
| Sadin | Or i could wait and get 110$ Xenon quad core 4gb ram | 03:42 |
| waltman | MutantTurkey: $40 off. | 03:44 |
| MutantTurkey | do it. | 03:44 |
| MutantTurkey | waltman: is that more or less than the drexel discount? | 03:45 |
| InHisName | I have TWO 19" racks, one low-boy only 40" tall, other nearly to ceiling. | 03:48 |
| InHisName | Many others got 'budget' rack from Ikea -->a rectangular plastic end table where the narrow end was perfect for 19" equipment. | 03:50 |
| waltman | there's no Drexel discount on iPads | 03:52 |
| MutantTurkey | waltman: shucks | 03:52 |
| MutantTurkey | is there any for any apple stuff? | 03:52 |
| waltman | Maybe. I didn't check everything. | 03:52 |
| Sadin | InHisName They have one on amazon for A/V equipment that fits 19" for only 23$ | 03:53 |
| InHisName | waltman: You should have waited for this HIGH Quality site: http://motorola.avalon-dimension.com/ | 03:53 |
| Sadin | InHIsName that looks shifty | 03:55 |
| InHisName | Might be same table that Ikea sells. | 03:55 |
| InHisName | You calling my discovery of Highly Respectible ReSellers --> shifty <-- yes you did put an 'f' in there. | 03:56 |
| Sadin | InHisName lol i am | 03:57 |
| InHisName | I gave them my spammerhole email address and spammer VoIP phone #, no messages after 8 hours so far. | 03:58 |
| InHisName | Amazing isn't it? Not a single spammail received since I 'registered'. | 03:59 |
| MutantTurkey | that looks so sketch | 04:01 |
| InHisName | Hmmm, I wonder, if you had an email with hundreds of spam a day, would registering with these 'upright' sellers, would totally clean up all the incomming spam into TOTAL silence ? | 04:01 |
| MutantTurkey | lol | 04:02 |
| rmg51 | Morning | 10:17 |
| JonathanD | Morning. | 10:19 |
| JonathanD | Sadin, waltman, no racks, sorry :) | 10:20 |
| JonathanD | There was a full size one tossed at my office (not by us) a few months ago. | 10:20 |
| teddy-dbear | Morning peoples | 13:14 |
| InHisName | Morning early birds | 14:05 |
| MutantTurkey | is there a name for a number that cannot be log'd to a whole number? | 18:48 |
| TheLordOfTime | perhaps ##math ? | 18:48 |
| MutantTurkey | yeah... | 18:49 |
| waltman | log'd to a whole number? | 18:49 |
| waltman | MutantTurkey: assuming you mean logarithms, it depends on the base. | 18:51 |
| MutantTurkey | right | 18:52 |
| MutantTurkey | any whole base that is not 1 or the number | 18:53 |
| MutantTurkey | apparently it's a non-trivial perfect power according to ##math | 18:53 |
| waltman | I really don't think there is a term for that. | 18:53 |
| MutantTurkey | or not | 18:53 |
| MutantTurkey | " a number which is not a nontrivial perfect power" | 18:53 |
| Sadin | logarithms... my next assignment | 18:54 |
| Sadin | lol | 18:54 |
| waltman | i.e. "There's no term for what you want, so here's a long explanation of what it is." | 18:54 |
| TheLordOfTime | what waltman said | 18:54 |
| waltman | I've never understood why people find logarithms so confusing. | 18:54 |
| Sadin | I have barely scratched the surface of em | 18:55 |
| waltman | Didn't you study them in high school? | 18:55 |
| Sadin | Im still in highschool | 18:55 |
| Sadin | im 17 | 18:55 |
| MutantTurkey | yeah. | 18:55 |
| MutantTurkey | I mean I understand them | 18:56 |
| waltman | aha! | 18:56 |
| MutantTurkey | I really feel like our teachers failed to explain_what_ they are | 18:56 |
| MutantTurkey | rather than how they work | 18:56 |
| Sadin | Our teacher is JUST starting them | 18:56 |
| Sadin | ^ | 18:56 |
| Sadin | And what turkey said | 18:56 |
| MutantTurkey | you can explain the conversion from powers and logs and all of that, but if you don't understand why or what it is.. it'll always be confuseing | 18:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | MutantTurkey, sounds like my calculus teacher not explaining what the bloody hell an integral is | 18:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | and just expecting us to know. | 18:56 |
| waltman | MutantTurkey: to be fair, *what* logarithms are is fairly trivial. It's their use that makes logs interesting. | 18:56 |
| waltman | I really need to work on my "remedial high school math for geeks" talk | 18:57 |
| waltman | MutantTurkey: base 2 logarithms are vital to analyzing algorithms | 18:58 |
| Sadin | I need to build a script in PHP that does base conversions need to look into the log() function | 18:58 |
| Sadin | maybe ill just write it in python.... | 18:58 |
| waltman | why would a log function need to do base conversions? | 18:59 |
| waltman | answer: it wouldn't | 18:59 |
| Sadin | waltman aparently thats what i was told | 18:59 |
| waltman | by "base conversion", do you mean "convert 42 to base 3?" | 19:00 |
| Sadin | waltman yeah | 19:00 |
| TheLordOfTime | ... | 19:00 |
| waltman | that's completely different from the 'base' in logarithms. | 19:00 |
| TheLordOfTime | what waltman said | 19:00 |
| jedijf | all math questions pm waltman | 19:01 |
| jedijf | address questions, not so much....... | 19:01 |
| Sadin | TheLordOfTime waltman okay | 19:01 |
| * waltman <- majored in math, not geography | 19:01 | |
| Sadin | well i didnt know | 19:01 |
| * TheLordOfTime is IT security, so there. | 19:02 | |
| TheLordOfTime | but even I know logarithms won't help you go from Base ??? to any other base. | 19:02 |
| * TheLordOfTime yawns | 19:02 | |
| * TheLordOfTime notices he's 2 minutes late for class | 19:02 | |
| TheLordOfTime | DAMN IT! | 19:02 |
| jedijf | all time questions........ | 19:02 |
| * TheLordOfTime timejumps back two minutes, shows up ON TIME for class | 19:03 | |
| waltman | You probably want / and % (division and remainder) to convert between bases | 19:05 |
| waltman | I wonder if I could talk for an entire hour on log and %. | 19:06 |
| Sadin | waltman i was pointed towards this logb(x)=logb(c)logc(x) | 19:06 |
| waltman | logb = log base b? | 19:07 |
| jedijf | Sadin: bring waltman for show and tell! | 19:07 |
| waltman | Sadin: I think maybe what you're thinking of is that log_b(x) = log_k(x)/log_k(b). | 19:08 |
| waltman | That lets you convert between bases. For example, if you want a log_10 but all you have is ln, you can compute ln(x)/ln(10) = log_10(x) | 19:09 |
| Sadin | waltman yeah im pretty sure that was it | 19:10 |
| Sadin | i dont have a scientific calculator on me to try it | 19:10 |
| waltman | trust me, it works :) | 19:11 |
| Sadin | waltman ! maybe i can pull up IDLE | 19:11 |
| waltman | also whatever computer you're on most likely has a scientific calculator app somewhere | 19:11 |
| Sadin | hmmm | 19:11 |
| Sadin | waltman so is x the base im currently in? | 19:12 |
| waltman | no, in those examples you can read "_a" as "base a" | 19:13 |
| waltman | ln = log_e | 19:13 |
| waltman | computers and calculators all compute logs base e because the math is a little simpler | 19:14 |
| Sadin | well whats base e? | 19:14 |
| waltman | e=271828... and is a magic number in calculus similar to pi | 19:14 |
| Sadin | I only have to do bases 2 through 10 | 19:15 |
| waltman | oh, you'll get to e soon enough :) | 19:15 |
| Sadin | im not in calc yet im in trig lol | 19:15 |
| waltman | ah. well, don't worry about it then. | 19:16 |
| Sadin | waltman now i just need to figure out how i would do this in PHP | 19:17 |
| Sadin | i know there is a log() function | 19:17 |
| waltman | That even lets you set the base. | 19:20 |
| Sadin | waltman yup i have to mimic this http://dallbee.com/scripts/convert.php | 19:20 |
| Sadin | i gtg schools letting out | 19:20 |
| waltman | Kids these days, not learning their math... | 19:22 |
| InHisName | what do you have to do? count up to n in each base ? or ??? | 20:05 |
| Sadin | InHisName i need to make a conversion tool thats really it | 20:12 |
| InHisName | input A base, B number, C new base, get new number ? | 20:13 |
| Sadin | InHisName mhm | 20:24 |
| TheLordOfTime | so... take Base 10's 10 and convert to, say, Base 16? | 20:38 |
| TheLordOfTime | (decimal -> hex) | 20:38 |
| TheLordOfTime | or what? | 20:38 |
| waltman | Sadin: using that formula I posted, it's trivial | 20:45 |
| InHisName | If you don't understand the formula yet, then there is always the brute force method. | 21:15 |
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