[01:04] This ThinkCentre works awesome with wheezy. I am really pleased. Wheezy is really nice overall [01:04] spotify even works with it :-) [01:54] TheLordOfTime: I used mesh running shoes. Did not work out so well,,,, socks got soaked, although feet weren't all that cold. 2 driveways cleaned 23 minutes. [01:59] quick question - is there a way to access stuff dynamically within my network? [02:00] or that is crazy? [02:00] say I have a domain, and I'd love to attached each one of my computers to a subdomain [02:00] like desktop-01.mutantturkey.com and such [02:00] so I could easily ssh into them each [02:02] ought to be able to do that [02:27] sup MutantTurkey [02:28] hey dude [02:28] got synergy setup [02:28] Welcome to clipboard mayhem [02:29] Synergy works ok most of the time but it causes all sorts of weird things to happen to the clipboard in my experience [02:31] @ping [02:33] MutantTurkey: gobble gobble! [02:34] I've survived another thanksgiving [02:34] ChinnoDog: I really want a better keyboard actually [02:34] that's what I need -_- [02:34] I have a complete crap logitech keyboard and I miss my laptop [02:34] but I love my desktop monitor and mouse :[ [02:34] I want a thinkpad keyboard for my desktop [02:34] MutantTurkey: we were worried! [02:35] however, it's still gobbler season at Wawa [02:35] I know, I like to avoid the holidays altogether :p [02:35] actually I have successfully avoided all radio - christmas music so far. [02:42] I avoid holiday music until a few days before Christmas. [02:42] It's impossible to avoid. [02:43] I don't listen to the radio or watch TV so not impossible for me [02:43] same here [02:43] I don't own a radio or TV. [02:44] or cable rather - I have a TV for playing videos and such [03:26] MutantTurkey ChinnoDog waltman, any of you have an old small rack mount you might consider selling? [03:27] didn't InHisName have one?!? [03:27] or did you not purchase one from him [03:27] No i did not [03:27] I might have a hookup for you though, let me ask. I have a friend who is a IT manager at a company and was talking to him last weekend [03:27] Sadin: did he have one or did you not get it? [03:27] he said he has some old stuff [03:27] MutantTurkey he had one [03:27] and/ [03:28] id just like a small not to advanced one for my room [03:28] MutentTurkey i havent talked to him in a long time [03:28] dont know what happend to it [03:28] Sadin: I don't, but maybe JonathanD does? Seems like the kind of thing he collects. :) [03:28] * waltman is grumpier than usual tonight. [03:28] waltman :( [03:33] I ordered an ipad online during Apple's Black Friday sale on Friday. But I fat-fingered my address on the order. This has caused the delivery to be delayed from Saturday to Wednesday. [03:34] This morning they were toying with me by changing the status to "On FedEx vehicle for delivery". That meant "We pulled it off the old truck to slap a new label on it, and now it's on a different truck for delivery TOMORROW. [03:35] I called in the address change Saturday afternoon, and they didn't do anything about it at the FedEx warehouse until Tuesday morning. [03:40] was there a good discount? [03:41] Sadin: why do you need a rack [03:41] I suggest getting a regular old desktop. Easier form factor to work with and doubles as a desktop? [03:41] other than the fact that racks are cool as shiznizzle [03:41] MutantTurkey was buying a 55$ Rack server just to play with [03:42] 55 is cheap [03:42] I just got this ThinkCentre for like 60 bucks [03:42] Mutant Turkey yeah i know its just a pentium4 and 1GB RAM but for a server to play on thats fine [03:42] Or i could wait and get 110$ Xenon quad core 4gb ram [03:44] MutantTurkey: $40 off. [03:44] do it. [03:45] waltman: is that more or less than the drexel discount? [03:48] I have TWO 19" racks, one low-boy only 40" tall, other nearly to ceiling. [03:50] Many others got 'budget' rack from Ikea -->a rectangular plastic end table where the narrow end was perfect for 19" equipment. [03:52] there's no Drexel discount on iPads [03:52] waltman: shucks [03:52] is there any for any apple stuff? [03:52] Maybe. I didn't check everything. [03:53] InHisName They have one on amazon for A/V equipment that fits 19" for only 23$ [03:53] waltman: You should have waited for this HIGH Quality site: http://motorola.avalon-dimension.com/ [03:55] InHIsName that looks shifty [03:55] Might be same table that Ikea sells. [03:56] You calling my discovery of Highly Respectible ReSellers --> shifty <-- yes you did put an 'f' in there. [03:57] InHisName lol i am [03:58] I gave them my spammerhole email address and spammer VoIP phone #, no messages after 8 hours so far. [03:59] Amazing isn't it? Not a single spammail received since I 'registered'. [04:01] that looks so sketch [04:01] Hmmm, I wonder, if you had an email with hundreds of spam a day, would registering with these 'upright' sellers, would totally clean up all the incomming spam into TOTAL silence ? [04:02] lol [10:17] Morning [10:19] Morning. [10:20] Sadin, waltman, no racks, sorry :) [10:20] There was a full size one tossed at my office (not by us) a few months ago. [13:14] Morning peoples [14:05] Morning early birds [18:48] is there a name for a number that cannot be log'd to a whole number? [18:48] perhaps ##math ? [18:49] yeah... [18:49] log'd to a whole number? [18:51] MutantTurkey: assuming you mean logarithms, it depends on the base. [18:52] right [18:53] any whole base that is not 1 or the number [18:53] apparently it's a non-trivial perfect power according to ##math [18:53] I really don't think there is a term for that. [18:53] or not [18:53] " a number which is not a nontrivial perfect power" [18:54] logarithms... my next assignment [18:54] lol [18:54] i.e. "There's no term for what you want, so here's a long explanation of what it is." [18:54] what waltman said [18:54] I've never understood why people find logarithms so confusing. [18:55] I have barely scratched the surface of em [18:55] Didn't you study them in high school? [18:55] Im still in highschool [18:55] im 17 [18:55] yeah. [18:56] I mean I understand them [18:56] aha! [18:56] I really feel like our teachers failed to explain_what_ they are [18:56] rather than how they work [18:56] Our teacher is JUST starting them [18:56] ^ [18:56] And what turkey said [18:56] you can explain the conversion from powers and logs and all of that, but if you don't understand why or what it is.. it'll always be confuseing [18:56] MutantTurkey, sounds like my calculus teacher not explaining what the bloody hell an integral is [18:56] and just expecting us to know. [18:56] MutantTurkey: to be fair, *what* logarithms are is fairly trivial. It's their use that makes logs interesting. [18:57] I really need to work on my "remedial high school math for geeks" talk [18:58] MutantTurkey: base 2 logarithms are vital to analyzing algorithms [18:58] I need to build a script in PHP that does base conversions need to look into the log() function [18:58] maybe ill just write it in python.... [18:59] why would a log function need to do base conversions? [18:59] answer: it wouldn't [18:59] waltman aparently thats what i was told [19:00] by "base conversion", do you mean "convert 42 to base 3?" [19:00] waltman yeah [19:00] ... [19:00] that's completely different from the 'base' in logarithms. [19:00] what waltman said [19:01] all math questions pm waltman [19:01] address questions, not so much....... [19:01] TheLordOfTime waltman okay [19:01] * waltman <- majored in math, not geography [19:01] well i didnt know [19:02] * TheLordOfTime is IT security, so there. [19:02] but even I know logarithms won't help you go from Base ??? to any other base. [19:02] * TheLordOfTime yawns [19:02] * TheLordOfTime notices he's 2 minutes late for class [19:02] DAMN IT! [19:02] all time questions........ [19:03] * TheLordOfTime timejumps back two minutes, shows up ON TIME for class [19:05] You probably want / and % (division and remainder) to convert between bases [19:06] I wonder if I could talk for an entire hour on log and %. [19:06] waltman i was pointed towards this logb(x)=logb(c)logc(x) [19:07] logb = log base b? [19:07] Sadin: bring waltman for show and tell! [19:08] Sadin: I think maybe what you're thinking of is that log_b(x) = log_k(x)/log_k(b). [19:09] That lets you convert between bases. For example, if you want a log_10 but all you have is ln, you can compute ln(x)/ln(10) = log_10(x) [19:10] waltman yeah im pretty sure that was it [19:10] i dont have a scientific calculator on me to try it [19:11] trust me, it works :) [19:11] waltman ! maybe i can pull up IDLE [19:11] also whatever computer you're on most likely has a scientific calculator app somewhere [19:11] hmmm [19:12] waltman so is x the base im currently in? [19:13] no, in those examples you can read "_a" as "base a" [19:13] ln = log_e [19:14] computers and calculators all compute logs base e because the math is a little simpler [19:14] well whats base e? [19:14] e=271828... and is a magic number in calculus similar to pi [19:15] I only have to do bases 2 through 10 [19:15] oh, you'll get to e soon enough :) [19:15] im not in calc yet im in trig lol [19:16] ah. well, don't worry about it then. [19:17] waltman now i just need to figure out how i would do this in PHP [19:17] i know there is a log() function [19:20] That even lets you set the base. [19:20] waltman yup i have to mimic this http://dallbee.com/scripts/convert.php [19:20] i gtg schools letting out [19:22] Kids these days, not learning their math... [20:05] what do you have to do? count up to n in each base ? or ??? [20:12] InHisName i need to make a conversion tool thats really it [20:13] input A base, B number, C new base, get new number ? [20:24] InHisName mhm [20:38] so... take Base 10's 10 and convert to, say, Base 16? [20:38] (decimal -> hex) [20:38] or what? [20:45] Sadin: using that formula I posted, it's trivial [21:15] If you don't understand the formula yet, then there is always the brute force method.