[05:15] hi superfly jrgns and others [05:15] morning [05:15] still got web probs superfly ? [05:34] morning all [05:34] hey magespawn_ [05:34] right click it and select run as admin [05:34] reading the logs from last night [05:35] whew ive forgotten last night [05:35] for the command prompt in win [05:35] got it running a full chkdsk in 1st 1TB [05:36] but soooo slow [05:36] takes 10 mins just to boot up [05:36] grrr [05:36] hows things there magespawn_ [05:37] you winning [05:37] chkdsk on 1tb is going to take awhile [05:37] how come you got a tail [05:37] i always win, sometimes long after the race is finished [05:37] rofl [05:37] well said [05:37] good question === magespawn_ is now known as magespawn [05:38] 1 TB is rather large hey [05:39] a fair amount yes [05:44] but if this chkdsk stuff works then i got 5 outa the 14 going again [05:44] one hasnt even got the card underneath [05:44] that looks wrong [05:45] underneeth [05:45] whew [05:45] even worse [05:48] there is not much to be done with that, you can get a card from another drive that is the same [05:49] ya but will need to wait long for that [05:50] seagate doesnt supply new one either [05:54] and its 500g what a loss that is [05:55] one of thsoe things [05:55] on my way out for a bit bbl [05:56] go well [05:57] Kilos: on my cellphone on the train this morning, yes. At home? Apparently not. [05:58] ouch [06:36] hey Kilos [06:36] hey magespawn that was quick [06:36] mmm forgotten wireless network [06:37] aw [06:38] peeps tend to panic a bit when things do not "just" work the way they did [06:41] yeah and then its very urgent [06:43] had a good chuckle at smile last night. he will still learn , when the fly talks-listen [06:43] very clever kid that just needs the right guidance [06:44] mmm indeed [06:46] hi SilverCode [06:46] morning [06:47] but magespawn as they say, hire a teenager because they know everything [06:51] or while they know everything [07:01] while they know everything [07:19] hiya maiatoday [07:30] oh magespawn to sort win probs get ccleaner . i havent tried on 7 but made big diffs on xp [07:31] the free one [07:31] môre inetpro [07:33] Kilos is it a windows program? [07:33] no private thing [07:33] works well. doubled the speed [07:33] sorts lotsa probs [07:34] http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download [07:34] thats for 7 methinks [07:35] me needs to discuss the win thing with inetpro [07:35] i have just downloaded it now. i will let you know how it goes [07:38] actually an everyone opinion is good [07:38] who here doesnt need to repair any windows pc's [07:38] or use them at work etc [07:39] * Kilos waits for ai [07:40] i worked on a pc recently that had a 6.9gig recycle bin, and the hard drive was almost full [07:41] wow [07:41] teach them how to empty it [07:41] hehe [07:41] there was not enough space for the swap file to work porperly [07:42] wow just had a wasabi peanut that felt like i had swallowed a piece of lava [07:42] one needs to teach peeps that it is like a dustbin at home [07:43] when full you aint got a dustbin anymore [07:43] that is a good way to teach it [07:43] lol i love wasabi [07:43] oesnt burn long luckily [07:43] doesnt [07:43] me too, but that one caught me by surprise [07:44] right up the nose [07:44] ha ha ha you not supposed to breathe in with mouth already open [07:48] wow that ccleaner removed 5481MB from the computer [07:48] all log files and temp files [07:49] running the reg cleaner now to see what that picks up [07:52] that removed 418 registry entries for things like shared dll and orphaned entries, am going to reboot and see what happens\ [07:52] ok [07:52] brb [07:54] okay it is busy with updates now too [07:57] yeah sorts missing shortcuts and registry probs and lots more [08:05] seems to be running okay [08:05] did not notice any speed increase in booting [08:07] still win i suppose [08:09] ya got to go through the motions [08:21] Kilos: goeie more [08:21] what's up doc? [08:22] we just gaaning aan inetpro [08:22] Kilos: you just need to stop doing the win thing, especially in here [08:22] we need to discuss the mentioning of the other os here [08:22] somewhere we have to draw the line [08:23] there are many other places where you can discuss it [08:23] ok was just thinking that all of you need to work on them machines too [08:23] no [08:23] ya i have my channel [08:24] we don't [08:24] at school? [08:24] well I try not to get involved in any windows support [08:24] lol at try [08:24] not that I can always avoid but I try [08:26] ok so when you have no choice then where you get help from [08:26] apart from google that is [08:26] dump it in the dustbin [08:27] lol [08:28] support for that OS is literally non-existent [08:28] unless [08:28] unless you have lots of moola in the back pocket [08:28] ya i know [08:28] so [08:28] we should help mekaar with whatever we can [08:29] my channel can be used for it [08:29] and then you keep racing for the next solution only to create more problems for yourself [08:29] maybe we could start an alternate channel [08:29] the prob might be win but we a family and should helk mekaar [08:30] indeed that is true, but not sure about how that will affect other things like the loco [08:30] see the help isnt actually win help and support its supporting each other [08:30] not so [08:31] well I'm not the boss here but I prefer keeping discussions in this channel primarily focused on the ubuntu range of distros [08:31] its not for outside win users just the family [08:31] i see your point and accept. my channel is available for that kinda help then [08:32] well just make sure you abide by the rules of freenode [08:32] i got you too watch me [08:32] i am on the win channel, and there is a lot in linux flying around there too, but point is made [08:33] because many of these discussions that include that other OS tend to include downloads of illegal software [08:33] oh i see what you getting at [08:34] sigh we gonna be quiet most of the time here [08:34] we dont have so many probs [08:36] well I'm not saying that you're not allowed to ever mention the word but please just don't go over board [08:36] other people will think that we've become a windows support channel [08:37] ok [08:37] oh and the simple fact is, their are still lots of challenges even on ubuntu [08:38] * Kilos apologises [08:38] just try focus on that [08:39] Kilos: I'm just as guilty going totally off topic at times [08:39] haha thats why i say its a family channel that helps our community [08:40] we dont help outsiders with the other os [08:41] let's just all try be reasonable and stick to the topic as far as possible [08:41] ok [08:41] anyway, I have work to do [08:41] reprimand accepted [08:42] enjoy [08:42] no win pcs hey [08:42] hehe [08:45] the good thing about being involved in multiple focused channels is that you can at least point people to the right channel in order to get proper support from other experts specializing in a specific field [08:49] oh and others are more than welcome to chime in [08:49] * inetpro doesn't make the rules [08:50] hmmm [08:50] go work inetpro [08:57] hi drussell [09:04] wb drussell [09:20] inetpro: fwiw, i agree. ms issues bore me. [09:20] good morning [09:20] Maaz: coffee on [09:20] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [09:21] morning [09:21] hi jrgns [09:22] Morning all [09:23] mornin [09:24] hi mazal jr [09:24] oh my [09:24] jrgns, [09:24] ah hi charl_ [09:24] Coffee's ready for charl_! === deegee__ is now known as drussell [09:33] hi K [09:33] Kilos [10:09] hi Vince-0 [10:10] Haai Kilos [10:10] *grinding through some mail auth trouble-shooting [11:38] jrgns: thanks [11:38] Kilos: you see, he even kept quiet all this time :-) [11:39] he who? [11:39] Kilos: jrgns man [11:39] lol [11:39] he feels intimidated [11:39] you chasing our linux guys away with your windows chatter [11:40] he greeted me [11:40] Kilos: don't stress to much about it [11:40] jrgns, did i frighten you away? [11:40] * inetpro lol [11:41] hehe you wrong everyone here is my friend [11:41] the funny one left long ago [11:42] maybe i drove him away with my stupid questions [11:42] Kilos: no man, he's still around [11:42] Kilos: I said, don't stress to much about it [11:42] lol [11:43] * Kilos sulks [11:43] i think you stopped us so that you havent got so much to read to catch up with whats going on [11:43] Kilos: no, but if I see M$ talk, i look away [11:44] aw [11:44] know your enemy [11:44] i know enough to know i don't want to know! [11:44] lol [11:54] * inetpro agrees with jrgns [11:55] it hurts them eyes [12:07] inetpro, jrgns fix chat sounds in kde for me [12:07] does that sound better [12:07] 12.04 [12:07] * jrgns waves a magic wand [12:07] there, it's fixed [12:07] hehe [12:14] soz, no, i'm not a big fan of chat sounds, so i don't even know if mine works or not [12:15] it doesnt work. they said it will be fixed in 12.10 [12:16] i need the sound. eye dont see alert goodies [12:16] we all tried [12:16] inetpro, you here?? [12:17] my 12.04 kde is going again [12:17] dont ask why or how [12:18] now i go sleep a while so shup [12:27] Kilos: hmm... [12:27] lekker slaap oom [12:28] dankie ou [12:28] hey jergy a du twa [12:28] same as sis === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [12:46] Kilos ? [12:46] yessir [12:47] "hey jergy a du twa"? [12:50] oh my sister is a du toit as well [12:50] ah. quality [12:52] but she loves xp [12:52] hehe [12:57] hi Kilos [12:57] wow got so busy with something i completely forgot about irc [12:57] :) [12:57] hey charl_ [12:58] thats sad [12:58] irc should be first connection [12:59] :D [12:59] it doens't pay my rent though :P [13:01] man go 5 mins earlier to work to connect [13:01] haha === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [15:38] *yawn* [15:41] hi magtie [15:41] you napped on the train again superfly [15:42] no, been too busy discussing web site matters with some folks [15:42] but I really should have [15:42] you dont get enough sleep [15:42] you gonna get sick [15:42] you a ballie now you know [15:50] Hi Kilos & Everyone [15:51] * mazal peeks in [15:58] hi mazal [16:40] hi queery psydroid [16:40] hi queery Kilos [17:01] evening [17:05] lo magespawn [17:05] hey mazal [17:06] Things are quiet today [17:07] we had quite a chat in kilos' channel earlier [17:10] and there he goes [17:10] mazal are you a loco member on launchpad? [17:11] Yep I am [17:11] cool [17:11] Still don't understand when to use what website for though hehehehe [17:13] i have a problem getting into the forums [17:13] we all do our best [17:13] You can't log in ? [17:14] i get the password mixed up with one of the others [17:14] evening [17:14] Lo Squirm [17:14] hey Squirm [17:15] Squirm are you a loco member on launchpad? [17:16] magespawn: no? [17:16] umm [17:16] maybe [17:16] I may have signed up to something on launchpad a while back [17:18] i had to check mine awhile back too [17:19] makes you 'officially' part of ubuntu-za [17:19] you get to sign the code of conduct too [17:19] do I get a joiners bonus? [17:23] turns out I do have a launchpad account [17:23] Member since: [17:23] 2009-10-31 [17:23] not sure, you get kudos here though, and as much coffee as Maaz can make [17:23] hmm... [17:23] cool [17:24] turns out I've been a member for ages [17:28] Evening smile4ever [17:28] hi :) [17:28] oh sorry hi psydroid [17:29] queery, no problem, welcome back [17:29] hoi smile4ever :) [17:29] hi :) [17:29] hi mazal [17:29] Hi psydroid [17:29] psydroid: do you know php enough ? :p [17:30] and Squirm and magespawn [17:30] hmm [17:30] hey psydroid [17:30] smile4ever, you know I only study people these days :P [17:31] creepy [17:33] psydroid: oh :p [17:34] haha [17:36] * mazal needs something to fiddle with [17:36] gets most of his material here [17:38] wb Kilos [17:39] ty power cut in whole area [17:39] grrr [17:39] Again [17:39] yeah [17:40] They not finished with the changes yet ? [17:40] tyhis is different [17:40] maybe some over load or something [17:40] then you gotta wait till the guy goes from home to reset [17:40] amazing how often that happens [17:41] frustrating [17:41] and i had a serious dd command here on opera to copy the mbr from one drive to another [17:42] that would be useful [17:42] Have you guys used dcfldd before ? [17:43] It's dd , but with progress indication [17:43] never. we scared of dd commands [17:43] hehehe [17:43] dd is kwaai man :) [17:43] no but then never used dd either [17:44] very serious commands [17:44] can zero a drive in 1 sec [17:44] mbr and everything gone [17:44] I use it when needing to clone usb sticks , or to wipe one [17:44] cool sounds like fun [17:45] Ot when I want to make a backup image of bootable sticks [17:45] actually had it work here on one of the drives i fixed magespawn [17:45] or even [17:46] only trick is straight after you shutdown and only leave that drive in and boot and let ubuntu use whole disk [17:46] then the mb replaces the mbr i think [17:46] the bios or something [17:49] brb [17:50] Kilos, I tried looking into that Ubuntu book. But couldn't find a downloadable version [17:50] Seems one can only buy it [17:50] im sure i saw something about free download or something [17:51] here is that command [17:51] sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sga bs=512 count=1, [17:51] sga ? [17:51] What device is that ? [17:51] sdb it would be here [17:52] that was for an external [17:52] http://askubuntu.com/questions/139356/corrupted-mbr-mbr-repair-does-not-recognise [17:54] there are several verions of ubuntu books available as pdf [17:54] i dunno if that , must be left off [17:55] mazal, whats your opinion on that last comma [17:56] I don't think it must be there [17:56] i think it should be left off [17:56] ya [17:56] Agree [17:56] So that command copies ONLY the mbr ? [17:56] im scared of dd [17:56] the fly said they dangerous [17:57] Ya it doesn't have the nickname "disk destroy" for nothing [17:57] lol [17:59] well i gonna give it a try [17:59] oi , good luck [17:59] no other choice to sort what i think is some corruption in the mbr [18:00] ubuntu live cd takes forever to open when that drive is connected [18:00] i see why superfly said it was dangerous [18:00] even my unity takes about 7 mins with that drive as second drive [18:01] lol what you read magespawn ? [18:01] put the wrong values in and you copy the empty disk to the full one and have nothing [18:01] Indeed [18:01] Must be VERY sure you enter the correct device names [18:01] and once you hit enter there is no confirmation or password check or anything [18:02] like the old cloning software [18:02] good way to zero write a disk [18:02] The age old qoute "linux asumes you know what you are doing" hehehehe [18:02] yup [18:03] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29 for those who do not know [18:03] here is the zero one [18:03] dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 [18:03] works for me [18:03] http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/10/dd-command-examples/ and http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/ for practical examples [18:04] i copy paste so i dont make mistakes [18:04] hi nlsthzn [18:04] good way to do it [18:05] o/ [18:07] hey nlsthzn [18:07] how are you all? [18:07] finally sorted my forum sign on [18:07] Hi nlsthzn [18:07] didn't know you had issues [18:07] Good thanx and you [18:08] always good thanks :) [18:08] good ty nlsthzn and you? [18:08] agg not really just confused the password [18:08] haha [18:08] it happens :) [18:08] and the username/email address [18:08] so could not get password reset [18:09] but all sorted now [18:09] * nlsthzn waits to see if TF2 works again [18:09] was last active the 8th August 2009 [18:10] oh wow, that is some time ago [18:10] :D success TF2 works [18:15] i think that was my only activity too, found this place and that was that [18:16] I enjoy the forum... but each has its strenghts and weaknesses I guess [18:17] What I like about the forum is that I can print the answers to pdf [18:18] do not know why i never really used the forums [18:19] I found the forum before IRC so I guess that is what hooked me [18:20] Kilos , your drive still alive ? [18:21] it shows as unallocated [18:21] grrr [18:21] And if you try and create a partition ? [18:22] then it says go device create partition table [18:22] then there dos and other stuff. dunno which one to use [18:23] sun and loop and amiga and mac [18:23]