[00:00] <xorg_is_a_pain> and now I've just got no window manager at all
[00:00] <xorg_is_a_pain> unity has just vanished
[00:00] <[1]Cameron> Hi, i have a quick question
[00:00] <jrib> gustav__: no, look at gcalctool
[00:00] <JohnTeddy> bkc_: Well I'm good at math, I need to learn calculator syntax.
[00:00] <Rustyblade3> now how do i let u use the SSH?
[00:00] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: run this and paste the link here "cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit"
[00:00] <xorg_is_a_pain> and compiz keeps crashing...
[00:00] <gmachine_24> !question
[00:00] <[1]Cameron> Can anyone tell me a modern printer that will work with ubuntu that is under 50 USD?
[00:00] <gustav__> jrib: Software contains bugs.
[00:00] <Rustyblade3> what do u mean
[00:01] <JohnTeddy> [1]Cameron: B/W or color?
[00:01] <Rustyblade3> Run what?
[00:01] <[1]Cameron> Um, both
[00:01] <jrib> gustav__: gcalctool explicitly says the "-" button is subtraction
[00:01] <[1]Cameron> ?
[00:01] <bkc_> JohnTeddy: then you'd know about operator precadence and parenthesis ;)
[00:01] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit"
[00:01] <JohnTeddy> [1]Cameron: HP and Brother are well supported under Linux. I like the low cost Brother B/W laser printers.
[00:01] <Rustyblade3> WHERE?
[00:01] <[1]Cameron> Thank u Mr. JohnTddy
[00:01] <xorg_is_a_pain> should I put my xorg.log onto pastebin..? Can anyone help?
[00:01] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: in a terminal, don't yell
[00:01] <[1]Cameron> Can u link me one plz?
[00:02] <JohnTeddy> bkc_: I do know about it in my head.
[00:02] <gustav__> jrib: Maybe they should change the button text.
[00:02] <jrib> gustav__: why?
[00:02] <[1]Cameron> Preferrably one i can pick up at Walmart or Besty Buy?
[00:02] <JohnTeddy> It's translating that into programming/calc syntax.
[00:02] <gustav__> jrib: It's not complete.
[00:02] <[1]Cameron> *Best Buy
[00:02] <Rustyblade3> command not found
[00:02] <bkc_> JohnTeddy: which is the same as on paper :)
[00:02] <gmachine_24> Cameron, have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
[00:02] <[1]Cameron> yes
[00:02] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: without the quotes...
[00:03] <[1]Cameron> I wasn't sure if all Brother printers were supported by Ubuntu
[00:03] <JohnTeddy> [1]Cameron: I would say it's a safe bet.
[00:03] <[1]Cameron> Alright thank you guys very much
[00:03] <gmachine_24> Cameron, it's never safe to assume all ....... well, there you have it.
[00:03] <Ben64> from what i've seen, canon printers are the only troublesome ones
[00:03] <jrib> gustav__: I guess they could create another button for a negative sign....
[00:03] <[1]Cameron> Alright again thank u guys very much
[00:03] <xorg_is_a_pain> well... i'l just leave this here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1393199/
[00:04] <gustav__> jrib: I think it can be the same. That's a later discussion.
[00:04] <xorg_is_a_pain> if anyone can help me
[00:04] <xorg_is_a_pain> I'd apprechiate it
[00:04] <Rustyblade3> It doesnt work :(
[00:04] <Rustyblade3> How do i let u access my Comp?
[00:04] <rex> Rustyblade3: why dont u install team viewer
[00:04] <Ben64> rex: requires wine
[00:04] <Rustyblade3> it doesnt let me
[00:04] <rex> ben64 no it doesnt
[00:04] <Compy2> In ubuntu 12.04, I am attempting to project the display onto a diagonal mirror for an interactive project, is there an option in ubuntu's X display system to flip the display vertically so the display appears reversed?
[00:04] <Ben64> yes it does
[00:04] <Rustyblade3> It says i need somekind of ialb34
[00:04] <rex> i just installd
[00:04] <JohnTeddy> [1]Cameron: http://www.amazon.com/Brother-HL-2270DW-Compact-Wireless-Networking/dp/B00450DVDY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354061060&sr=8-1&keywords=Brother+black+white+laser+printer I own this printer, it works awesome with Ubuntu.
[00:05] <Rustyblade3> ia32libs
[00:05] <gustav__> Compy2: xrandr?
[00:05] <ozizka-ntb> Hi, I need some help.  I accidentally switched language to chineese
[00:05] <[1]Cameron> Yeah i need it to where i can use color, printer, scanner, copier
[00:06] <ozizka-ntb> what's english in chineese?
[00:06] <[1]Cameron> And i need it to be able to be picked up at best buy or walmart before the weekend
[00:06] <bkc_> Ben64: "depends=('libsm' 'libxext' 'freetype2' 'libxtst')"... I don't see Wine in there :)
[00:06] <Ben64> ozizka-ntb: 英语
[00:06] <xorg_is_a_pain> :(
[00:06] <Ben64> bkc_: Launching c:\Program Files\TeamViewer\Version7\TeamViewer.exe...
[00:06] <rex> rustyblade3: run this command -->sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libgcc1:i386 gcc-4.6-base:i386 libstdc++5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
[00:07] <Compy2> gustav__: Never heard of it. I can check it out.
[00:07] <Rustyblade3> unable to locate packages...
[00:08] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: how did my command not work
[00:08] <ozizka-ntb> Ben64:  Thanks, worked :)  It's a bit weird that switching to other language needs knowledge of the current.
[00:08] <Compy2> gustav__: Looks to be exactly what I need! Thank you very much!
[00:08] <ozizka-ntb> It should be settable by a pictogram
[00:08] <Ben64> ozizka-ntb: yeah, a world map would be nice
[00:09] <Rustyblade3> cant u acces my computer using something else?
[00:09] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: no, it'd take longer than to just fix it
[00:09] <Rustyblade3> Btw guys thx for helping me with all this. U are awesome
[00:09] <Rustyblade3> so then how do I install wine......
[00:10] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: isn't that your original problem?
[00:10] <Rustyblade3> yeah
[00:10] <Rustyblade3> Can ya fix it?
[00:10] <Rustyblade3> i will give u 5 BTC
[00:10] <xorg_is_a_pain> looks like the problem is: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check your NVIDIA:     system's kernel log for additional error messages.
[00:10] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: then for the love of god do what i said like 5 times "cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit"
[00:10] <xorg_is_a_pain> where can I find the kernel log>
[00:10] <xorg_is_a_pain> ?
[00:11] <rex> rustyblade3: Are you using some other pc in which this problem is occuring or its the same from which you are chatting?
[00:11] <JohnTeddy> bkc_ / mickster04 / Ben64 / gustav__ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations#Exceptions_to_the_standard ... Microsoft Excel does it (-2^2) = 4; hehe
[00:11] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how can I extract this?     tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=247
[00:11] <Rustyblade3> doesnt work, says couldn t locate...
[00:11] <gustav__> JohnTeddy: Nice. Maybe you should switch.
[00:12] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: what does it actually say
[00:12]  * xorg_is_a_pain wonders if he's silenced
[00:12] <Ben64> xorg_is_a_pain: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[00:12] <JohnTeddy> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: cat "tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=247"
[00:12] <Rustyblade3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1393211/
[00:12] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[00:12] <xorg_is_a_pain> thank you Ben64 !
[00:12] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> that didnt help
[00:12] <xorg_is_a_pain> Ben64: nvidia-current is already the newest version.
[00:13] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: you need a * after list.d/
[00:13] <JohnTeddy> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: file "tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=247" ; What does that output?
[00:13]  * MoleMan just succesfull over-wrote every single 40 movies on his server, with symbolic links to themselves
[00:13] <JohnTeddy> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: What are you trying to download? What are you trying to do?
[00:13]  * MoleMan is now going to jump off a bridge
[00:13] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> gzip compressed data, was "noversions1.05.tcl", from Unix
[00:13] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> extract a tcl file
[00:13] <xorg_is_a_pain> Ben64: ... now what? :(
[00:13] <MoleMan> I think I already know the answer, but there is no 'Undo' for CLI commands is there? :(
[00:13] <jrib> MoleMan: surely you have backups :/
[00:13] <teep> amazon instant video.  :(
[00:13] <JohnTeddy> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: zcat "tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=247"
[00:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[00:14] <Rustyblade3> what i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1393216/
[00:14] <MoleMan> jrib: yeah, I'll get back to you when I actually have enough money to get enough storage to keep my content on, nevermind backing stuff up
[00:14] <jrib> !undelete | MoleMan
[00:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> it didnt extract it johntedy
[00:15] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: sudo apt-get install wine
[00:15] <intelgma> MoleMan: yes, you can in some cases restore the files, just don't write anything to the disk
[00:15] <jrib> MoleMan: for things like movies though it's not a big deal.  You know the data exists out there somewhere and you can obtain it again.  At least backup your personal documents though
[00:15] <JohnTeddy> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: Did it output data that looks like tcl code?
[00:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> yes
[00:15] <MoleMan> yeah, all my actuall docs are backed up
[00:15] <JohnTeddy> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: zcat "tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=247" > mytclcode.txt
[00:16] <bkc_> JohnTeddy: Excel is a poor excuse for a broken bug-filled "program", so don't use that as an example unless you wanna be the laughingstock of the evening ^.^
[00:16] <Rustyblade3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1393221/
[00:16] <helpme22> HELP"!1!!1
[00:16] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> thanks
[00:16] <JohnTeddy> !question helpme22
[00:16] <MoleMan> I don't think there is actually anything on my server I would be seriously f***ked over if I lost... just about everything actually important is on either my memory stick, dropbox, or both (as well as my PC HDD)
[00:17] <helpme22> i'm looking for a HTTP caching proxy or whatever you call it
[00:17] <JohnTeddy> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: Did that work?
[00:17] <helpme22> for ubuntu
[00:17] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: do you have synaptic? if so, open it
[00:17] <JohnTeddy> helpme22: squid, join #squid
[00:17] <ttydragon> my fud
[00:17] <thiebaude> how do i disable the startup sound in ubuntu 12.04?
[00:18] <ac_slater> hey guys I'm getting TCP_DENIED on the server side when using squid-deb-proxy. Any suggestions?
[00:18] <ttydragon> my dvd* writer stopped reading discs. How do i verify it's a lens problem?
[00:18] <MoleMan> jrib: as you say, its all re-obtainable, hence I'm not actually shouting in rage ATM, its just a case of a day or two's download...
[00:18] <escott> kantlivelong, did you check dmesg
[00:19] <bryguy_> My keyboard shortcut to open a terminal fails silently. I can run xterm or gnome-terminal from the command line just fine. Using 12.10.
[00:19] <bkc_> ttydragon: open it up and try reading from it... if you get hurt while looking into the laser it's fine :)
[00:19] <brady> hi, im trying to compile a package according to some install instructions.. ive navigated to the folder, and it says that i should type ./configure , to configure the package for my system, however it comes back as "No such file or directory"
[00:19] <Rustyblade3> Ok i have opened it
[00:20] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: does it have a section for "Pinned" on the left?
[00:20] <bkc_> brady: chmod 0755 ./configure
[00:20] <bkc_> then run it again
[00:20] <ttydragon> bkc_ i could use some help dude
[00:20] <Rustyblade3> nope it has "all" section
[00:21] <brady> bkc:  chmod: cannot access `./configure': No such file or directory
[00:21] <bryguy_> is there a log somewhere that might show the terminal launch failure or some other way to debug a keyboard shortcut failure?
[00:21] <bkc_> brady: then that file simply doesn't exist, broken package :)
[00:21] <JohnTeddy> ttydragon: Pop in a livecd, see if it boots. If it boots your disc drive can read stuff.
[00:21] <bkc_> brady: file a bug-report somewhere :)
[00:22] <brady> which file?  i can see the files in the folder
[00:22] <ttydragon> johnteddy it's not reading.
[00:22] <bkc_> brady: 'configure' for example :P
[00:22] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: dpkg --get-selections | grep -i hold
[00:22] <escott> brady, what are you compiling?
[00:22] <nongoogle> i made a shortcut for a terminal command but everytime i try to launch the script through the button on the bar to the left it just peters out :C
[00:22] <brady> libusb-1.0.9-rc3
[00:22] <bkc_> ttydragon: he's trying to determine whether it's an OS problem or HW...
[00:22] <Rustyblade3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1393221/
[00:23] <question> open-with? i have files with extention --> rkt that i want to open with DrRacket, i can not find how to connect this program to this file-type
[00:23] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: thats not what i said
[00:23] <escott> brady, be sure to use a prefix with that
[00:23] <brady> i dont know what that means, to use a prefix.
[00:23] <Rustyblade3> do i type the dpkg in the terminal>
[00:24] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: dpkg --get-selections | grep -i hold
[00:24] <ttydragon> bkc_ i was running my computer using live cd for sometime. Suddenly it stopped working. And stuck. When i restarted, it stopped reading. Don't know what happen
[00:24] <vga> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Biostar-6870-1GB-/181034435730?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2a267e4492
[00:24] <Rustyblade3> Yeah i searched it
[00:24] <vga> 6870 1gb video card for sale ^^
[00:24] <Ben64> vga: no
[00:25] <brady> escott, what do you mean by that
[00:25] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: what did it output
[00:25] <intelgma> i need some SERIOUS help with fullscreen video playback. i already asked in #lubuntu, but i might have a better chance here: most video files either let the player hang or audio/video goes badly out of sync right away. i know that it does work with the same files and it even did so like two hours ago, but after some browsing and man page reading, the problem comes up again. i have NO idea where to look anymore nor what I did to 'reproduce' the 
[00:25] <escott> brady, ./configure --prefix=/usr/local; make; checkinstall
[00:25] <ttydragon> intelina
[00:26] <question> can someone help me with Open-With
[00:26] <brady> i literally type in that escott?
[00:26] <bryguy_> is there a log for unity somewhere?
[00:26] <ttydragon> intelgma even with vlc
[00:26] <Rustyblade3> dpkg   I    1.16.7ubuntu6   I    (Same thing as before)    I   Debian Package manager   (Its Installed)
[00:26] <intelgma> ttydragon: yes, output is a bit different, but it does crash or better hang, too, or the audio is terribly distorted
[00:27] <bkc_> ttydragon: then it's broken, replace it :)
[00:27] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: you're not typing it correctly. "dpkg --get-selections | grep -i hold"
[00:27] <brady> ./configure: No such file or directory
[00:27] <brady>   
[00:27] <brady> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[00:27] <brady> The program 'checkinstall' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[00:27] <Rustyblade3> What do i type it in. The terminal?
[00:27] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: yes
[00:27] <question> ho to add other applications to "open With"?
[00:28] <ttydragon> bkc_ looking to call the company for repair
[00:28] <teep> amazon instant video.  I am not having any luck, here.  In firefox, it says to update my player but the update fails.  In chrome, I had to revert to adobe 11.2r202 to get anywhere at all, but again the update fails.
[00:28] <Rustyblade3> says nothing
[00:29] <teep> ah, internet suggests I need a HAL.  I will go get one.
[00:29] <ttydragon> question, you have to create a .desktop file and place it inside .local/share/applications
[00:29] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[00:29] <question> ttydragon will do thx
[00:29] <Ecliptica> I have a damaged external hard drive I'd like to recover data from. What are some good Ubuntu utilities I can use?
[00:30] <Rustyblade3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1393243/
[00:30] <ttydragon> Ecliptica, photorec
[00:30] <MoleMan> hmm, I prefer my media stored on my server... Means I can instantly stream to any device in the house without having to worry about bandwidth etc, (not that it's usually an issue) and I can grab something to my tablet within a few minutes to have ready to take with me, so I don't have to download on the move etc
[00:33] <brady> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[00:34] <Rustyblade3> Ben?
[00:34] <brady> this sucks. the driver needs to be compiled.. asking for help just gets responses that i don't understand and don't lead to a solution.
[00:34] <Rustyblade3> Ben64: Hey?
[00:34] <mickster04> Rustyblade3: you have apt get open somewhere else or the software centre is installing something?
[00:36] <CQN> you don't need a separate home partition to do a clean install while preserving data anymore, right?
[00:37] <intelgma> are there any issues with an intel gma3100? i am really at my wits' end regarding video playback :( more so, because the problem seems to go away and come back with no real interaction from my side
[00:37] <hmmm> can i format an external drive from a live cd session?
[00:37] <ttydragon> Hmmm, sure
[00:37] <Rustyblade3> ok Its done installing BEn
[00:37] <CQN> hmmm: use gparted
[00:37] <Rustyblade3> So now can I install wine?
[00:37] <hmmm> ok thanks
[00:38] <Rustyblade3> Ben?
[00:38] <mickster04> Rustyblade3: give us the output again?
[00:38] <Rustyblade3> It worked
[00:39] <Rustyblade3> The thing installed
[00:39] <Rustyblade3> Now how do I install wine?
[00:39] <Rustyblade3> now that the thing is done
[00:39] <mickster04> Rustyblade3: I ent for lunch, what did you install?
[00:39] <escott> brady, generally you aren't meant to be building stuff on your own
[00:39] <Rustyblade3> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:40] <[1]Cameron> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Brother+-+Network-Ready+Wireless+Color+All-In-One+Printer/2877498.p?id=1218359087042&skuId=2877498#BVRRWidgetID - woudl this one work with Linux?
[00:40] <escott> brady, im also in the middle of making dinner so
[00:40] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: sudo apt-get install wine
[00:40] <brady> well my main goal is to install libusb-1.0.9-rc3 , my goal is to get my usb projector , projecting
[00:41] <CQN> brady: use apt-get build-dep to install the dependencies for building the package manually
[00:41] <Rustyblade3> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:42] <CQN> then just untar the release, ./configure --prefix=/usr/local; make; make install
[00:42] <Rustyblade3> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[00:42] <Rustyblade3>  wine : Depends: wine1.4 but it is not going to be installed
[00:42] <Rustyblade3> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[00:42] <mickster04> Rustyblade3: what did that previous command do (sudo apt-get everything)
[00:42] <teep> YAY!  Fixing amazon instant video in 64bit ubuntu, 12.04 (brand new install) and chrome:  1.  get old  flash from adobe, 11.2.202.251  and then 2.  Install HAL (sudo apt-get install hal)  and then 3.  go into chrome and un-enable new flash, enable old flash.  Voila.
[00:42] <Rustyblade3> it installed what Ben told me to do
[00:42] <mickster04> Rustyblade3: give us the output again?
[00:43] <OerHeks> Rustyblade3, you added a wine1.5 ppa, that might be your issue
[00:43] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:43] <brady> E: Must specify at least one package to check builddeps for
[00:43] <orkhan> can anyone help to install skype 4.1 on ubuntu 12.10 x64?
[00:44] <question> ttydragon > firts
[00:44] <Rustyblade3> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[00:44] <Rustyblade3>  wine : Depends: wine1.4 but it is not going to be installed
[00:44] <Rustyblade3> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[00:44] <CQN> brady: well duh, you need to specify libusb
[00:44] <CQN> that way it'll build the dependencies for libusb
[00:44] <Rustyblade3> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:44] <Rustyblade3> NVM THE ONE before this
[00:45] <Rustyblade3> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:45] <orkhan> i need a help
[00:45] <orkhan> please
[00:45] <mickster04> orkhan: sudo apt-get install skype in terminal;
[00:45] <orkhan> i doesnt work
[00:45] <brady> yes but when you say specify... i have no idea how that translates to what i actually type.  if I knew what to do, i would be doing it.
[00:45] <mickster04> Rustyblade3:give us the output of sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:45] <escott> brady, how do you know that upgrading libusb is what you need
[00:45] <mickster04> orkhan: how?
[00:46] <mickster04> !doesn't work
[00:46] <question> ttydragon > didnt know about existence of .local/share/apllications     it is invisble in home dir   magde file .desktop there and did put "drracket' in it and now?
[00:46] <brady> i dont escott.. im just trying to get a usb driver so i can use my projector.
[00:46] <OerHeks> orkhan, enable partner repo in software centre / sources
[00:46] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: open up synaptic again and go to Edit -> Fix Broken Packages
[00:46] <Rustyblade3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1393284/
[00:46] <escott> brady, i dont think libusb will do anything for you
[00:47] <roasted> Question - is there any possible way to view multiple RTSP streams within a single instance of VLC? Or perhaps stream multiple instances through a web browser? Or some sort of other app?
[00:47] <Rustyblade3> ok when i do that the app just flashed once
[00:47] <brady> i searched usb projector driver, and read that they had done stuff with that to make it support usb projectors
[00:47] <OerHeks> Ben64, see his sources with wine 1.5 ppa
[00:47] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: now try installing wine again
[00:48] <Ben64> OerHeks: yeah?
[00:48] <question> roaster > i'm as new as one can be
[00:48] <troll`> OHI
[00:49] <troll`> My ubuntu crashes often.
[00:49] <Erin> troll`, describe crashes ?
[00:49] <troll`> It crashed the other day, the screen stopped working
[00:50] <Erin> hrm. like it wasn't responding any more ?
[00:50] <troll`> Yes, all the icons were gone
[00:50] <Rustyblade3> it says i need wine1.4 to install
[00:50] <mickster04> Rustyblade3: try 1.5
[00:50] <escott> brady, when you plugin the projector what do you see in dmesg
[00:51] <Erin> troll`, weird did you check /var/log/syslog
[00:51] <escott> brady, ie plug it in and type "dmesg | tail -n 20"
[00:51] <troll`> had to restart
[00:51] <OerHeks> Ben64, >> <Rustyblade3> what i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1393216/
[00:51] <troll`> Says something about path error
[00:51] <mickster04> troll`: the other day is often?
[00:51] <Erin> can you pastebin the error ?
[00:51] <troll`> Yes
[00:51] <troll`> Nope
[00:52] <sam_nazarko> LVM is showing no logical volume
[00:52] <mickster04> OerHeks: Ben64 he has the same repo twice, in fact two repo's twice :p
[00:52] <sam_nazarko> what do I do? This is on a new system so no backup file
[00:52] <Rustyblade3> i think it is fixed now
[00:52] <brady> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1393293/
[00:52] <troll`> So why is ubuntu crashing?
[00:53] <mickster04> troll`: we dunno because you haven't given us an error message
[00:53] <mickster04> !something
[00:54] <Darkstar1> how do I find out my current shell in linux again?
[00:54] <troll`> I think my cmd has been lost too.
[00:54] <intelgma> echo $SHELL _
[00:54] <Darkstar1> cheers
[00:55] <Rustyblade3> l
[00:55] <rootyour> cheers with 99 beers
[00:55] <Darkstar1> ok this is odd. System doesn't recognise sudo 0_o>
[00:56] <rootyour> you can still su
[00:56] <bryguy_> if you have a root password you can
[00:56] <troll`> SO WHY IS UBUTUNU CRHASING?
[00:56] <escott> rootyour, no
[00:56] <bustacap> Can someone please walk me through the steps of restoring grub after installing windows?
[00:57] <escott> !grub | bustacap
[00:57] <mickster04> !grub
[00:57] <mickster04> :p
[00:57] <mickster04> troll`: because it is broken
[00:57] <bustacap> escott, ty :P
[00:58] <bustacap> Wasn't the bots name ubotu before?
[00:58] <escott> bustacap, different bot
[00:58] <bustacap> Oh :P
[00:58] <sam_nazarko> so can i restore the lvm or not
[00:58] <escott> !gender
[00:58] <Darkstar1> aahh forgot this OS is a RHEL variant
[00:58] <dr_willis> it evolved
[00:59] <escott> bustacap, apparently this one is also a girl
[00:59] <bustacap> Ohhhhhh
[00:59] <bustacap> Makes sense :P
[00:59] <escott> bustacap, not a lot of men in that family for some reason
[00:59] <Darkstar1> adios amigos
[00:59] <escott> Darkstar1, ubuntu is not related to RHEL
[00:59] <bustacap> ''/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).''
[00:59] <brady> escott, did you see my pastebin?
[01:00] <Darkstar1> escott: I know.
[01:00] <escott> brady, now i do
[01:00] <Rustyblade3> ben still cant install wine :(
[01:00] <Darkstar1> escott: I just realised that the OS on this remote was RHEL that's why I'm having issues :)
[01:01] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: fine, gimme ssh
[01:01] <Rustyblade3> how?
[01:02] <Rustyblade3> i has a ssh viewer but..
[01:02] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:02] <TheDifferentTurr> Hello?
[01:02] <Rustyblade3> k installed it
[01:02] <escott> brady, and when plugged in xrandr does not recognize it
[01:03] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: then you need to open port 22 for me to connect and either give me your user/pass or make a new one for me, or change your current password
[01:03] <TheDifferentTurr> Ooh, my name failed. I suppose that's off-topic..>
[01:03] <TheDifferentTurr> I'm very new here so excuse me if I fail
[01:03] <Rustyblade3> how do i open port 22?
[01:03] <TheDifferentTurr> But, I'm having quite a bit of trouble setting up my wireless internet on Ubuntu. I can't connect at all.
[01:04] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: you'd have to do it through your router
[01:04] <Rustyblade3> how...
[01:04] <brady> xrandr?
[01:04] <Ben64> i'm not going to show you how to use your router ...
[01:04] <del_> !samba
[01:04] <Erin> Rustyblade3, go to the port forwarding section and open port 22 tcp/udp
[01:04] <Erin> and put the IP of the comp its running on, the server
[01:05] <Rustyblade3> So how do i send u a user/pass safely?
[01:05] <Erin> Rustyblade3, dont give anyone ssh access .....
[01:05] <Erin> I think you need to do some reading before you set up an ssh server
[01:07] <Rustyblade3> ben can ya do it?
[01:07] <escott> brady, i gather it doesnt see the projector in the displays configuration
[01:07] <TheDifferentTurr> Can I have some help connecting to the internet...? xD
[01:07] <Ben64> Rustyblade3: you still need to open the port
[01:08] <Rustyblade3> HOW??
[01:08] <Ben64> i give up
[01:08] <rootyour> nobody is here
[01:08] <TheDifferentTurr> I wouldn't say that...
[01:08] <question> how to connect .rkt files to DrRacket Application?
[01:09] <Rustyblade3> yeah see..
[01:09] <roasted> Question - is there any way to stream multiple RTSP instances at oncein VLC?
[01:09] <Rustyblade3> I wasted 2 hours thinking someone would help me install wine...
[01:09] <question> roasted >  can't help you , i'm new
[01:10] <TheDifferentTurr> Well I can't even connect to the internet on my ubuntu desktop...
[01:10] <roasted> question: Iwasn't asking you...I was simply saying that in regard to the fact that I had a question. :)
[01:10] <TheDifferentTurr> I'm very new, though, so I figured I would need help
[01:10] <question> roasted ok ;)
[01:11] <mickster04> Rustyblade3: you messed it up in the first place to be honest. you haven't paid anyone for support and we aren't paid for this either
[01:11] <Rustyblade3> i am sorry but i am just frustrated
[01:11] <TheDifferentTurr> Can anyone help me simply connecting to the internet?
[01:11] <TheDifferentTurr> Like the Ubuntu wiki wasn't very helpful...
[01:12] <question> how does ubuntu know wich application t use for a certain file extention?
[01:12] <mickster04> Rustyblade3: if there is a way for you to reset your sources list
[01:12] <mickster04> !sources
[01:12] <mickster04> Rustyblade3: then try install it again from scratch
[01:12] <escott> question, it doesnt go strictly by extension, but there is  mime type database
[01:12] <nongoogle> TheDifferentTurr can you tell the device you use to connect?  a a phoneline modem, an ethernet cable, or a wifi adapter?
[01:12] <Rustyblade3> everytime i try to install wine it says I need wine 1.4
[01:13] <Rustyblade3> i dont think its the repos
[01:13] <question> escot > where can i find that mime type db?
[01:13] <mickster04> Rustyblade3: you have the same sources listed twice
[01:13] <TheDifferentTurr> nongoogle yes I can I use a wifi adapter. The computer I'm trying to connect has a NetGear Wireless Card, and the network I'm trying to connect it to is a WPA2 personal
[01:14] <mickster04> Rustyblade3: that won't help[
[01:14] <nongoogle> do you use the current 12.10 ubuntu?
[01:14] <question> escott where is this mime type db located?
[01:15] <TheDifferentTurr> Err...I use Lubuntu, but I've heard from everyone that connecting to the network is the same on both. And I use 12.10 Lubuntu
[01:15] <nongoogle> i just had to select my wireless service when ubuntu got installed
[01:15] <nongoogle> oh ok
[01:15] <brandinhess> Hello
[01:15] <nongoogle> i just clicked on the wedge icon and selected my network
[01:15] <TheDifferentTurr> the Lubuntu chat isn't very responsive...
[01:15] <TheDifferentTurr> Well it doesn't automatically detect on mine
[01:15] <TheDifferentTurr> and for some reason I entered all the info but I must've done it wrong as it didn't work
[01:15] <brandinhess> Does anyone know if there is an encyclopedia program out there similar to that of Britannica, but for Ubuntu?
[01:15] <nongoogle> ;-;
[01:16] <nongoogle> i prolly dont know enough to halp
[01:16] <nongoogle> but i hope you get assistance soon
[01:16] <TheDifferentTurr> So do I
[01:17] <roasted> Question - is there any way to stream multiple RTSP instances at oncein VLC?
[01:17] <escott> brandinhess, firefox http://www.wikipedia.com
[01:17] <brandinhess> roasted: No, unfortunately not.
[01:17] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> How Can i extract this again? http://www.egghelp.org/cgi-bin/tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=247
[01:17] <jpastore> I recently upgraded to 12.04. I noticed that when I do my dev testing perl scripts printing to STDERR no longer show up. what happened here? can someone point me to a work around. I see alternatives, while great for new dev, I have a ton of scripts that test for a debug level set and print to STDERR accordingly. I would like to get that working again.
[01:18] <roasted> brandinhess: do youknow of a way to get an RTSP stream to work in a browser? If so Icould just write my own html/css page containing the two streams.
[01:18] <brandinhess> escott: I need something that doesn't require an internet connection.
[01:18] <brandinhess> roasted: I haven't dealt with RTSP streams for years, and I know they have changed since then.
[01:18] <xangua> brandinhess: you can download/bought an offline version of wikipedia
[01:18] <ek> Anyone here willing to help a fellow Ubuntu user get his bootloader installed properly? ;)
[01:19] <roasted> :(
[01:19] <brandinhess> xangua: How?
[01:24] <Zal> Hi. I'm running "apt-get upgrade -y" in a script. Until today, it worked fine, but today it is prompting (see http://bpaste.net/show/xQUhXWNFR019nMn4qYoO/ ). Why is it prompting, and how can I get it to stop?
[01:25] <Zal> I've tried setting dpkg options to ignore the one package, but that just gives me other prompts about removing deprecated packages. I've also tried adding an environment variable for non-interactive apt, which also has no effect.
[01:28] <Zal> that is, I tried "export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive", which did not have any effect.
[01:30] <shoopdewoop> Jordan_U did you have any more ideas about my 12.10 installer crash? I can put up the screenshot again if you'd like
[01:31] <jrib> Zal: it explains why it's prompting
[01:31] <Zal> jrib, yes, I understand what the prompt is asking. When I tell dpkg to ignore that package it does so, but then prompts about removing deprecated packages.
[01:32] <jrib> Zal: pastebin
[01:32] <Zal> There doesn't seem to be a way to get it to NOT prompt.
[01:32] <jrib> Zal: tell it what you want it to do...
[01:32] <Zal> how?
[01:32] <Zal> This script worked fine for years, until today.
[01:33] <Zal> so something outside changed
[01:33] <jrib> Zal: there's probably a dpkg option. Scripts like these seem dangerous
[01:33] <Zal> yeah, I tried the dpkg option, it didn't work
[01:33] <jrib> Zal: "the dpkg option" being?
[01:33] <igor__we> tcnm [nj heccrbq&
[01:34] <Zal> well, as I stated above, I tried setting DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive for starters, nothing.
[01:34] <igor__we> Есть хто русский?
[01:34] <jrib> Zal: that wouldn't do anything in this situation
[01:34] <Zal> Also tried was DPkg::Options="--force-confold", but that was someone else, so I'm not sure what it's supposed to do.
[01:35] <Zal> The real question is though -- why did this suddently STOP working? What is the difference?
[01:35] <jrib> Zal: so read its description, so you understand what you are donig.
[01:35] <jrib> Zal: as the message you pasted says, there was a modification made to the configuration file
[01:35] <Zal> but this has always been so.
[01:35] <Zal> and the script never prompted before today.
[01:36] <jrib> Zal: it should have, to my understanding.  But I can only guess at what the script is
[01:36] <gear4> I tried to install zeroc-ice, and it should install php-zeroc-ice V3.4.2, but, /usr/share/Ice-3.4.2/php/ doesn't exist
[01:36] <gear4> and I've no clue how to get the PHP version working
[01:36] <igor_danilets> [eq
[01:36] <Zal> jrib, well thanks, I'll check on the modified file.
[01:36] <igor_danilets> хуй
[01:36] <gear4> any help ?
[01:36] <jrib> igor_danilets: stop
[01:37] <almoxarife> gear4: and the question is?
[01:37] <igor_danilets> ок)
[01:37] <gear4> why doesn't the folder exist/how can I get it working
[01:37] <dr_willis> !info zeroc-ice
[01:37] <gear4> oh yea, it's 11.04
[01:38] <jrib> !11.04 | gear4
[01:38] <gear4> 11.10 I meant, sorry
[01:38] <antonio_> Anyone in here use openshot?
[01:38] <antonio_> For some reason its not exporting the videos correctly
[01:38] <almoxarife> gear4: time to read up on zero.......
[01:38] <gear4> almoxarife, why zero ?
[01:39] <gear4> the one in the repositories should be installing all the correct files
[01:39] <shoopdewoop> Or anyone, really: I'm trying to install 12.10 from LiveUSB on my HP Pavilion dv6, and this is as far as I get http://imagebin.org/237389
[01:39] <jrib> !info zeroc-ice oneiric
[01:39] <jrib> :/
[01:40] <dr_willis> its gone ;-)
[01:41] <jrib> gear4: so did it install php-zeroc-ice?
[01:41] <gear4> jrib, yes
[01:41] <gear4> it's marked as installed
[01:41] <jrib> gear4: dpkg -L php-zeroc-ice
[01:41] <gear4> but it's not "installed"
[01:41] <dr_willis> perhaps it just uses some other dir.
[01:41] <jrib> gear4: also, check /usr/share/doc/php-zeroc-ice for a README.Debian...
[01:42] <gear4> jrib, I only see README
[01:42] <gear4> no README.Debian
[01:42] <gear4> http://graphox.us/paste/?b58f3999192c307a#NcH03kTjR0p/WoiL5mGUEcKLsQDG8D56CKTSaI9RnWo= <= full list
[01:42] <jrib> gear4: start there then
[01:44] <igor_danilets> Тут хтось розуміє по-україньські?
[01:45] <almoxarife> igor_danilets: you been asked to stop
[01:45] <jrib> igor_danilets: english only here
[01:46] <igor_danilets> What's to stop it?
[01:46] <bazhang> igor_danilets, lets move on
[01:47] <shoopdewoop> I'm trying to install 12.10 from LiveUSB on my HP Pavilion dv6, and this is as far as I get http://imagebin.org/237389
[01:47] <MrAristo> When locking a screen on 12.04, why would the sidebar and title bar still be visible?  And what can I do to fix that?
[01:48] <almoxarife> shoopdewoop: thought about starting over?
[01:48] <igor_danilets> Sorry, I'm just Russian ...)
[01:50] <gear4> igor_danilets, #ubuntu-ru
[01:50] <shoopdewoop> almoxarife: I've tried several times, with fresh USBs (even redownloaded the ISO) Is 12.10 notoriously difficult to install or is this just my luck?
[01:50] <igor_danilets> ок)
[01:51] <almoxarife> shoopdewoop: do you have a hardwire connection to the internet?
[01:51] <escott> shoopdewoop, anything strange about your disks
[01:52] <shoopdewoop> almoxarife: currently, I'm wireless; could that be a factor? escott: what do you mean by strange? (i'm still getting my feet wet as far as linux goes)
[01:53] <[1]Cameron> Ok where is the ISO file to burn to a disc?
[01:53] <escott> shoopdewoop, intel raid, gpt? ie what does sudo parted -l say
[01:54] <almoxarife> shoopdewoop: i doubt its a factor, i would suggest the 'mini.iso' install, but it requires a internet connection via ethernet
[01:54] <GunfighterJ> I installed vnc4server and configured it to run in a virtual gnome-classic window, however whenever I try to connect to it through tightvnc from a different location, I just get an error saying the machine actively refused the connection. Does anyone know what may be causing this?
[01:54] <Guest40079> Sup
[01:55] <almoxarife> GunfighterJ: firewalled at the host?
[01:55] <GunfighterJ> negative, firewall is disabled
[01:55] <GunfighterJ> I was able to connect through x11vnc
[01:55] <Guest40079> I just installed bitcoin but keep getting error message.
[01:55] <almoxarife> GunfighterJ: can you ping the ip/port?
[01:56] <GunfighterJ> yes
[01:56] <GunfighterJ> it uses port 5900 correct?
[01:56] <shoopdewoop> escott: sudo parted -l produces the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/1393397/ almoxarife: ethernet is possible, tell me more about mini.iso?
[01:57] <GunfighterJ> like all other vnc connections?
[01:57] <almoxarife> GunfighterJ: no idea, you set it up
[01:57] <Evil_Eric> yeah testing that intel shutdown again
[01:58] <Evil_Eric> pray that this shut down works s
[01:58] <[1]Cameron> Can someone tell me where i can get the necessary ISO files needed to create a Boot DVD?
[01:58] <bazhang> [1]Cameron, www.ubuntu.com
[01:58] <Evil_Eric> what iso you want
[01:58] <almoxarife> shoopdewoop: d/l mini.iso , go thru the same routine to get it on usb, then boot it and follow the directions, its all network d/l
[01:58] <Evil_Eric> nm
[01:59] <escott> shoopdewoop, sdb is throwing some kind of error. thats probably the source of your problems
[01:59]  * Evil_Eric waves in almoxarife genral direction and test the intel shutdown in hopes it actually shuts down 100%
[01:59] <SHOTbyGUN> is this valid way to copy my ubuntu from USB stick to HardDrive.. ? http://www.absolutelytech.com/2009/11/13/how-to-move-your-ubuntu-installation-to-new-hard-drive/
[01:59] <[1]Cameron> Wait, u don't extract the files when u download right?
[01:59] <bazhang> [1]Cameron, correct, dont extract
[02:00] <shoopdewoop> escott: do you think almoxarife's network d/l idea is a good next step?
[02:00] <[1]Cameron> Thanks, Winrar was confusing it
[02:00] <GunfighterJ> Yeah ports are configured and can be seen, I don't get why it would still actively refuse the connection
[02:01] <almoxarife> GunfighterJ: the port is closed, verify you are talking to the right port
[02:01] <GunfighterJ> I am talking with the correct port, however I don't know if vnc4server is configured to use 5900, I can't find documentation on setting it to work on that port
[02:01] <escott> shoopdewoop, the error message is from partman so its related to the disk partitions
[02:02] <shoopdewoop> escott, what would you suggest?
[02:02] <escott> shoopdewoop, figure out what sdb is and remove it
[02:03] <shoopdewoop> escott: *noob question* how could I figure out what it is?
[02:04] <escott> shoopdewoop, sudo lshw -C disk; or read through the output of dmesg
[02:04] <almoxarife> shoopdewoop: the partition you are installing to is a hard-drive correct?
[02:04] <Kpwn> hi what's up?
[02:05] <almoxarife> shoopdewoop: it must be, you are installing grub on sda
[02:05] <DrManhattan> what is the command i use to watch my temps? For instance "foo -n 3 sensors"?
[02:05] <shoopdewoop> escott, thanks I'll try that; almoxarife, yes I'm trying to install it to the harddrive, but it crashes before I can configure the partitions
[02:05] <escott> DrManhattan, watch
[02:05] <h00k> DrManhattan: are you looking for 'watch'? 'watch -c somecommandhere'
[02:05] <DrManhattan> thank you escott and h00k
[02:06] <h00k> !helpersnack | escott
[02:07] <almoxarife> helpersnack <-- that is funny
[02:08] <shoopdewoop> escott: hmm, it looks like sdb might be the recovery partition that came set up for win7
[02:08] <escott> shoopdewoop, no its a disk
[02:09] <escott> shoopdewoop, a1,a2,a3 are your windows partitions
[02:09] <shoopdewoop> escott, well there goes my hypothesis xD thanks for the tip, will keep looking into it
[02:16] <shoopdewoop> escott, what is an mSata ssd?
[02:16] <RetardusMaximus> join/#unix
[02:18] <escott> shoopdewoop, that would make your system interesting. its an internal disk
[02:18] <escott> shoopdewoop, my guess is that this laptop has some kind of intel storage thing enabled
[02:18] <RetardusMaximus> join #unix
[02:18] <escott> shoopdewoop, intel smart response
[02:18] <escott> shoopdewoop, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_Response_Technology but thats a guess
[02:19] <JC_SoCal> totally off topic but this channel has 1600 people so I have to try: does anyone know if Australian's have a nickname for the 20 cent piece ... like in america we call a 10 cent piece a dime?
[02:19] <RetardusMaximus> .join/#unix
[02:19] <xangua> !ot | JC_SoCal
[02:19] <xangua> if you know then you don't ;)
[02:19] <RetardusMaximus> Its been a long time, I cant remember the comand to join a channel
[02:19] <xangua> RetardusMaximus: /join
[02:19] <RetardusMaximus> ok thanks!
[02:20] <shoopdewoop> escott, that definitely rings a bell; i remember adding that as an upgrade when i ordered the machine
[02:20] <JC_SoCal> xangua: i know i just couldn't help it -- i've been trying to find out for a while now -- sorry
[02:20] <escott> shoopdewoop, and i dont know if that is going to work for you or not
[02:21] <escott> shoopdewoop, there might be a device mapper driver for that
[02:21] <shoopdewoop> escott, i'm not sure what that means
[02:22] <escott> shoopdewoop, you might try disabling the smart response to install ubuntu and then blacklisting the sdb device
[02:22] <Evil_Eric> well i love linux but i love functionality more
[02:22] <Evil_Eric> bbl
[02:23] <shoopdewoop> escott, hmm, so would it still be usable after the installation?
[02:24] <TandyUK> ubuntu desktop 12.04.1 x64 refuses to boot.. downloaded the iso twice, md5sum'd it, and verrified the disc the second time
[02:25] <escott> shoopdewoop, unless someone has written a device mapper driver of some kind (which they probably havent bothered to) the SSD and smart response will not work in linux. Its possible that you can just bypass it and go straight to sda with linux and leave windows to talk through SRT, or it might be that doing so completely corrupts both disks
[02:25] <dr_willis> what does it do exactly TandyUK
[02:25] <TandyUK> other discs boot fine, and i can boot other disc burned in exactly the same way. it just sits at "attempting to boot from cd/dvd" on bios
[02:26] <TandyUK> ony spins the disc up for a brief period then appears to stop all attepts to access it
[02:26] <shoopdewoop> escott, well that sounds dangerous! what is a device mapper driver?
[02:27] <dr_willis> hmm. that is weirdest
[02:27] <TandyUK> mythbuntu 12.04 x64 iso boots fine, which im trying to do a plain ubuntu install with the highpoint rocketraid 620 drivers
[02:27] <dr_willis> i tend to install from usb flash these days
[02:27] <TandyUK> and then load the mythbuntu stuff as they only have a live cd distro which doesnt give me a chance to load a driver disc as described in highpoints docs
[02:28] <escott> shoopdewoop, only link i can find. havent read ithttp://tobestool.net/using-intels-rst-with-linux/
[02:28] <TandyUK> i tend to use pxe boot for most of my stuff, but the pxe server is in a different building
[02:28] <Ahmuck> how do i make mouse modifications?
[02:29] <escott> shoopdewoop, "dmraid intel SRT" gets a few others
[02:29] <Farnaby> Anybody know why I have the 12.04 image here and how to get rid of it? http://i.imgur.com/ptkIG.png
[02:29] <TandyUK> i just dont get why it woont boot, i see no reason or it, especially if other ubuntu based isos are fine
[02:29] <shoopdewoop> escott, thanks for the tip, i'll check them out
[02:29] <dr_willis> TandyUK: tried that disk on other machines?
[02:30] <TandyUK> 2 discs freshly downloaded, md5'd etc
[02:30] <toafan> Farnaby: looks like it might be a mounted file.  What do you get when you right-click on it?
[02:30] <escott> Farnaby, virtual machine?
[02:30] <TandyUK> i havent tried it on another machine but i cant see 2 different copies failing in exactly the same way
[02:30] <Farnaby> toafan, the option to mount and format.
[02:30] <Farnaby> escott, I don't remember making one.....
[02:31] <dr_willis> ive seen optical disk drives do weird things.  but i dont use them as much these days
[02:31] <escott> Farnaby, i was wondering if this was a vm guest. evidently not
[02:31] <c_smith> Does anyone know how I can manually edit file type associations since the program I have to open a file isn't displayed by Nautilus?
[02:31] <dr_willis> !mime
[02:32] <toafan> Farnaby: to *mount* and to format... interesting.  So you can't rightclick->unmount, then?
[02:32] <toafan> (just double-checking)
[02:32] <Farnaby> nope
[02:33] <Farnaby> That was my first thought
[02:33] <shoopdewoop> escott, gotta run now, but thanks for the help! at least i know what the problem is now :)
[02:33] <shoopdewoop> !helpersnack | escott
[02:34] <toafan> Farnaby: it says file though... makes me wonder how you got it in the first place.  Have you mounted any files (specifficly any ISOs)?
[02:34] <c_smith> dr_willis, I take it there's a wiki page detailing the issue I'm having?
[02:34] <iIlL0oO> how to cat a.txt to xclipboard ?
[02:34] <escott> iIlL0oO, you should just be able to "xclip a.txt"
[02:34] <iIlL0oO> escott: thank you
[02:35] <Farnaby> Made a 12.04 usb disc yesterday which is, I am sure related toafan
[02:35] <escott> iIlL0oO, failing that cat a.txt | xclip should work
[02:35] <iIlL0oO> escott: on 12.04 , xlip is default installed ?
[02:35] <TandyUK> ok boots fine on a different machine, but shares the same new style loader
[02:35] <dr_willis> c_smith: id check askubuntu.com
[02:36] <toafan> I've just installed a keylogger on my system.   I'm trying to configure it to start with the computer.  Learning about init files now, any other ideas?
[02:36] <TandyUK> given that http://www.highpoint-tech.com/BIOS_Driver/rr62x/linux/Install_Ubuntu_RR62x.pdf appears to be from the 9.10 era, perhaps a beter question would be
[02:36] <dr_willis> c_smith: ive seen some tweaker tools with the feature also. i thibk its mime type editing
[02:36] <TandyUK> with 12.04, how do i load th highpoint rr620 drivers at install time, so that i can install ubuntu to a raid 1 array on said controller?
[02:37] <iIlL0oO> escott: Error: another clipboard is already running
[02:37] <toafan> Farnaby: My thoughts would be to track down the file that drive icon represents, and to try editing your 'places' menu
[02:37] <c_smith> dr_willis, alright, that's just what I needed, time for Google.
[02:38] <dr_willis> c_smith: id check askubuntu.com first
[02:38] <dr_willis> i bet its been asked there a dozen times
[02:38] <Farnaby> Somehow I always get wierd things like this toafan but I guess its time to see what I can do
[02:39] <Farnaby> First things first, since its not mountable... actually I should try restarting first.
[02:39] <escott> iIlL0oO, what was your command?
[02:39] <Farnaby> Somehow I alawys forget the easiest thing
[02:40] <iIlL0oO> escott: xclipboard a.txt
[02:40] <toafan> Farnaby: I feel like I missed something.  In review: you've got this mystery drive icon, and it's not mountable?
[02:41] <escott> iIlL0oO, xclipboard is a gui, you seldom use that in a modern environment. you need to install xclip
[02:41] <iIlL0oO> escott: thank you
[02:41] <toafan> shucks, missed 'im
[02:42] <toafan> Well, I just discoverd my keylogger's startup file in init.d.  Guess I'm good.
[02:44] <Farnaby> fyi: don't be a dummy, restart before jumping to conclusions. Otherwise you end up like me!
[02:46] <Farnaby> And with that.... its time for a beer and sons of anarchy I think.
[02:47] <c_smith> hmmmmm...... looking at the mime types file, the file extension (.exe) is there, just Wine isn't detected by Nautilus
[02:48] <c_smith> is there a solution to Nautilus not detecting Wine?
[02:56] <flugger> yeah
[02:56] <flugger> exactly
[03:01] <nerd> do gnome3 out of the box ?
[03:01] <nerd> work*
[03:07] <aah> what is daisy.ubuntu.com and why does ubuntu constantly keep connecting to it?
[03:09] <xangua> c_smith: right clic, open with, select wine
[03:09] <xangua> nerd: ubuntu 12.10 comes with gnome 3.6
[03:09] <c_smith> xangua, issue is, that isn't an option, Wine isn't listed in that method.
[03:10] <xangua> c_smith: do you have wine installed? did you install wine from repository?
[03:14] <nerd> xangua: really !! than it's cool let me check that out !!
[03:24] <jbeatty> after a couple of hours of use, the filesystem dies and thinks it's read-only and will barely respond to anything (even bash completion doesn't work). Programs in RAM stay running though. Upon reboot, I have to fsck once or twice to even get it to boot... then the filesystem failed again after a few hours
[03:24] <jbeatty> is my drive dying or is there anything I can do to fix it?
[03:25] <DrManhattan> jbeatty, check your connections
[03:28] <jbeatty> DrManhattan: switching to a tty gives me a bunch of "error: attempting to write lower page", would that imply a bad connection?
[03:28] <jbeatty> I'm afraid to open up my laptop and I want that to be my last resort :/
[03:30] <CavalierPrime> jbeaty open unity dash home and type in disks, then click on the icon, it will give you basic disk health status there
[03:32] <optikfiber> anyone alive
[03:32] <hittt> memememmee
[03:32] <jbeatty> CavalierPrime: says 40 bad sectors
[03:32] <dr_willis> just us zombies
[03:32] <CavalierPrime> you have probs :\
[03:33] <hittt> jbeatty: run fsck
[03:33] <L3mce> jbeatty: touch /forcefsck and reboot or sudo shutdown -rF now
[03:33] <jbeatty> I ran fsck before and I got it to boot properly but then the problem came back up
[03:33] <hittt> this might mean a damaged hdd
[03:33] <CavalierPrime> your hd is going, you need to transfer data now
[03:34] <Pupuser> working on a minimal install and ubuntu cannot access the files archives on any mirrors tried
[03:37] <Pupuser> anything?
[03:37] <Pupuser> cannt download release files for ubuntu minimal install
[03:37] <Pupuser> thats not functional
[03:38] <CavalierPrime> pupuser is eth0 up or down?
[03:38] <dr_willis> can you ping the servers Pupuser ?
[03:39] <Pupuser> how
[03:39] <dr_willis> ping command
[03:39] <Pupuser> gotta exit the reg install and do cli
[03:39] <dr_willis> sounds like netwrking is not cinfigured
[03:39] <Pupuser> or should use advanced cli?
[03:40] <dr_willis> huh?  any terminal will do.
[03:40] <Pupuser> well its an install from a minimal cd
[03:40] <dr_willis> no idea what you mean by advanced cli.
[03:41] <dr_willis> you may just  need to configure your network
[03:41] <dr_willis> how are yiu connected to the internet
[03:42] <CavalierPrime> pupuser go to terminal and type ifconfig to see if you are connected
[03:42] <CavalierPrime> ifconfig eth0 that is
[03:42] <dr_willis> unless hes wireless... ;-)
[03:42] <CavalierPrime> trues
[03:42] <Pupuser> there is no terminal ever done a minimal cd install? its the very base of ubuntu
[03:43] <CavalierPrime> yes for a server
[03:43] <dr_willis> the console is still there...
[03:43] <Pupuser> that installs everything else the system needs to run via mirrors
[03:43] <Pupuser> ok
[03:43] <Pupuser> how to access it
[03:43] <CavalierPrime> alt+f2
[03:44] <dr_willis> im not sure your skill set is up to doing a minimal install. ;-)     alt f1 through f7 give consoles.
[03:45] <Pupuser> just a moment
[03:45] <Pupuser> haha
[03:45] <dr_willis> you are on a wired network connection?
[03:46] <dr_willis> bbl.
[03:47] <xangua> what was the url to migrate a wubi install to a real install¿ i miss the bot :(
[03:47] <Pupuser> ifconfig gives this _/bin/sh: ifconfig: not found
[03:47] <Pupuser> so no network
[03:47] <Pupuser> ...
[03:49] <Pupuser> the connection is via wlan0
[03:49] <Pupuser> if that makes any diff
[03:51] <Pupuser> there is a network manualy configured it a few nights ago on another minimal install but now cant get it on the same network
[03:54] <Kpwn> sup?
[03:57] <edoedo> Is there any Ubuntu can create comic books>?
[03:57] <edoedo> ?
[04:00] <robertzaccour> My new laptop's wireless card doesn't work in Ubuntu its a Realtek RT8723AE any suggestions?
[04:02] <robertzaccour> Also I can't connect to the internet when wired neither.
[04:04] <edoedo> hELLO?
[04:04] <edoedo> Oh whatever
[04:05] <edoedo> I'll be back.
[04:05] <edoedo> Poof
[04:07] <liberte> hey guys
[04:07] <dr_willis> moo?
[04:07] <robertzaccour> since nobody here can  help me with my issue, what is the developer's channel? I want to give them my information to help confirm my new laptop cannot connect to the internet in Ubuntu.
[04:07] <liberte> i have a problem and i don't know how to ask
[04:08] <liberte> basically a friend of mine had an ubuntu installation inside of windows
[04:08] <robertzaccour> nvm i found it
[04:08] <liberte> with wubi
[04:08] <liberte> and the installation went to hell
[04:09] <phy1729> liberte: on how to ask questions http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[04:09] <dr_willis> wubi can be fragile
[04:10] <liberte> and now we must recovery the files inside of the this ubuntu
[04:10] <liberte> in the spanish channel the gusya say me that wubi create a virtual disk
[04:10] <liberte> root.disk
[04:10] <dr_willis> you can miynt the wubi fileststem from a luve cd or ubuntu install
[04:10] <dr_willis> mount..
[04:10] <dr_willis> !loop
[04:11] <liberte> but we don't found this file
[04:11] <liberte> root.disk
[04:16] <robertzaccour> My new laptop's wireless card doesn't work in Linux its a Realtek RT8723AE any suggestions?
[04:16] <robertzaccour> Also I can't connect to the internet when wired neither.
[04:16] <CavalierPrime> you may have to google a workaround
[04:16] <CavalierPrime> some chipsets just don't jive
[04:19] <dr_willis> liberte:   c:\ubuntu\disks  is where the faq says.
[04:20] <craigbass1976> Can anyone recommend a good multifunction laser?  I got an hp for a guy that worked fine (scanned, printed) but something mechanical has failed and he wants an okidata.  He's had good luck with them in the past, but they provide no linux drivers at all
[04:20] <dr_willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_migrate_to_a_real_partition.2C_and.2BAC8-or_get_rid_of_Windows_entirely.3F
[04:21] <dr_willis> craigbass1976:  hp or brother is what i prefer
[04:21] <liberte> thanks dr_willis
[04:21] <liberte> just one more qustion, if i dont have the virtual disk
[04:21] <dr_willis> multifunction often means more to go wrong
[04:22] <Tecan> with the low latency kernel how do i get nvidia working ?
[04:22] <Darkstar1> Hello again me ol' chums. What is the package that contains the add-repository script? python-properties?
[04:22] <craigbass1976> dr_willis, the mfc by brother always seems to work for me too (although pdf printing over a network is slow for some reason) but he wants okidata.
[04:22] <liberte> i have nothign to do?
[04:22] <Tecan> not sure how to kill xorg completely it keeps comming back... maybe init 1 ?
[04:22] <dr_willis> liberte: that file is the installed system. if windows trashed it... its gone
[04:22] <craigbass1976> Well, how about just a network scanner?
[04:23] <dr_willis> never had or tried a networked scanner.
[04:23] <Darkstar1> ……. 0_O
[04:23] <dr_willis> check the sane homepage  and foruns perhaps.
[04:24] <acidjazz> how can i search in apt which package contains the binary 'moc'
[04:24] <dr_willis> !find moc
[04:24] <Darkstar1> apt-cache search?
[04:24] <dr_willis> !info apt-file
[04:24] <dr_willis> apt-file moc       i think.
[04:25] <dr_willis> or use the full path
[04:25] <acidjazz> dr_willis: maybe automoc then?
[04:25] <acidjazz> nx
[04:26] <dr_willis> no idea wghat  moc is. ;-)
[04:26] <acidjazz> qt's meta-object compiler
[04:26] <acidjazz> http://doc.qt.digia.com/qt/moc.html
[04:27] <dr_willis> i bet id still have no idea after reading that.    ;-)
[04:27] <acidjazz> !find moc
[04:27] <rccola329> Hello all, would anyone happen to know why my hard drive wouldn't be detected by ubuntus system installer?
[04:27] <Tecan> i like to move it move it
[04:28] <dr_willis> rccola329:  allready using 4 primary partitions. or on a raid controller is common issues
[04:29] <rccola329> Its a single partition that has windows 7 installed that I am attempting to install over, and most linux installers do not detect my hdd, but all windows installers do.
[04:29] <rccola329> I use the same cd/iso on my laptop it detects hdd as expected
[04:30] <rccola329> this pc has acted this way with all linux distros since I first got the pc in 09 maybe 10'
[04:32] <dr_willis> sounds like a controller isue. but no idea on a fix
[04:33] <rccola329> is that related to the motherboard? or the actual IDE cable?
[04:33] <dr_willis> ssee if the live cds can mount the hd.
[04:33] <rccola329> good idea.
[04:33] <dr_willis> is it ide or sata,
[04:33] <rccola329> its old its ide i believe I havent opened it up in a while though
[04:34] <dr_willis> early sata i recall had some bios settings i had to mess with
[04:35] <rccola329> alright I'll check out the livecd mounting and look around the bios. the pc can load up the full live system i do know that
[04:37] <Darkstar1> .....
[04:37] <Darkstar1> …..
[04:37] <dr_willis> partition it by hand then start the installer perhaps
[04:37] <rccola329> the bios has an option ATA/IDE Mode <Enhanced (Native)> and Legacy, think legacy should be enabled?
[04:38] <dr_willis> hard to tell  try them both
[04:38] <rccola329> Problem with partitioning it by hand is that I cant do it from outside of windows unless im installing windows
[04:38] <n0sq> hmm, i think i need to flash my DVD firmware on my XPS since it's not reading some double layer dvd's (other drives read the dvd's) but i can't find any firmware upgrades
[04:39] <rccola329> i want to get rid of windows completely and the live cd isn't showing the drive
[04:39] <dr_willis> rccola329: use gparted on live cd
[04:39] <dr_willis> if gparted dosent see it.. th
[04:43] <rccola329> when loading the installer it says "ata3: link is slow to respond, please be patient"
[04:44] <fluxy> Hello, I am trying to run this command sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda5 /home/user/.disks/data -o rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0770 but I cannot get the umask part right. Could anyone here have any idea about this plz?
[04:48] <rccola329> Ok in the Partition Disks section (I am installing from USB drive), All it shows is SCSI5(0,0,0)(sda) - 8.0 GB Sandisk
[04:48] <selite> How do I call two different commands with one name in Ubuntu? For example instead of calling javac hello.java and java hello, I would only need to call rn hello?
[04:48] <selite> Is such a thing possible in Ubuntu terminal?
[04:49] <dr_willis> umask of 0002 is commonly used fluxy . the ntfs-3g homepage has other
[04:49] <selite> Come on guys help me?
[04:49] <tom_> I was using Ubuntu software center to install applications, and tried clicking on matlab (and then realized that it didn't actually install matlab) ... ever since the, the installer for matlab has been stuck at a window called "Matlab Interface Configuration", which was brilliantly designed without an option to cancel or close
[04:49] <dr_willis> selite:  use a bash scriot
[04:49] <tom_> It's blocking me from installing anything
[04:49] <fluxy> @dr_willis: I want to restrict read/write access of that partition to one single user
[04:50] <selite> dr_willis: How do I build such a script?
[04:50] <tom_> And if I pkill matlab-support, then it just starts up next time I reboot and try to use synaptic
[04:50] <dr_willis> selite: its not clear to me what you want to do.
[04:51] <selite> dr_willis: Here, for example I want to compile and run java code, first I have to compile it with javac hello.java and then run it with java hello. I am trying to achieve this with a single command.
[04:51] <dr_willis> fluxy:  id say chech the examples.
[04:51] <selite> dr_willis: For C code I would use makefile but for java I have to somehow make a tweak.
[04:51] <dr_willis> selite: thats a trivial bash script
[04:52] <lime__> I was manually adding a new keyboard layout be editing /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us, evdev.xml, and evdev.lst but now no layouts will display in the keyboard manager
[04:52] <selite> Yay, tell me how to write it.
[04:52] <dr_willis> like 3 lines
[04:52] <dr_willis> just put the commands in a file and make it executable
[04:52] <dr_willis> or use an alias.
[04:53] <lime__> The keyboard manager under settings displays nothing under keyboard options,  Is there a way to reset the xkb?
[04:53] <hittt> how can i edit this unity thing
[04:53] <hittt> is there any preferences anywhere
[04:53] <heoyea> nop
[04:53] <dr_willis> alias foo='command 1 ; command 2'
[04:53] <tom_> How can I cancel matlab from trying to install itself. I can kill the installer with pkill, but it just comes back when I try to restart synaptic or ubuntu software center ...
[04:54] <selite> dr_willis: But it has to accept an argument.
[04:55] <dr_willis> hittt: seeral settings and 3rd party tweak tools exist
[04:55] <selite> dr_willis: "rn fileName" will do this "javac fileName.java" and then "java fileName".
[04:55] <dr_willis> selite: bash can do that vua $1 variable
[04:55] <heoyea> tom_: wait for it to finish then uninstall
[04:55] <hittt> where are the 3rd party tweak tools? im not waiting for gnome devels to ever make this thing better
[04:55] <selite> dr_willis: How?
[04:55] <dr_willis> selite: alias cant.. i think
[04:56] <dr_willis> !abs
[04:56] <heoyea> selite: use functions instead of alias
[04:56] <tom_> heoyea -- it won't finish it's getting stuck asking me where the matlab files are, and the developer had the brilliant idea of not adding an option to cancel or close the window
[04:56] <devish> hi All, where can i find the screen refresh rate settings in ubuntu 12.04?
[04:56] <dr_willis> oh yea.. functions. ;-)
[04:56] <heoyea> tom_: reboot then
[04:56] <tom_> heoyea -- It's stuck asking me for a file that doesn't exist, and there is no option to
[04:56] <tom_> oops
[04:57] <tom_> As I said before, it just comes back when I reboot
[04:57] <selite> heoyea: What functions?
[04:57] <dr_willis> bash has a function feature
[04:57] <heoyea> selite: is more powerful then alias
[04:57] <hittt> dr_willis: any idea how to reach the settings? and how is the 3rd party tool called?
[04:57] <tom_> Heoyea -- I can kill it with pkill, but then the next time I reboot and start up synaptic, it comes back
[04:57] <dr_willis> scripts. functions. aliases..
[04:57] <selite> heoyea: Do you have any idea how to implement it?
[04:58] <dr_willis> hittt: depends on what you want to change
[04:58] <hittt> ... everything
[04:58] <heoyea> selite: example, nameiwant() {echo hello ;}
[04:58] <selite> heoyea: I hope you aren't misunderstanding the question, I don't want to write C code to do this, I just want some kind of a tweak so that 'rn fileName' will compile and run fileName.
[04:58] <dr_willis> hittt: thats vague.
[04:59] <hittt> i seriously want to change everything, system font, the way the taskbar works, the position of it, the window manager
[04:59] <selite> heoyea: I type that in terminal, it fails.
[04:59] <hittt> literally everything
[04:59] <dr_willis> selite: a read of the abs guide will show you
[04:59] <heoyea> selite: add it to ur bashrc
[04:59] <dr_willis> hittt:  use the source  then i guess
[05:00] <heoyea> tom_: pkill only kills the gui, not the command line process i dont think
[05:00] <selite> heoyea: How do I do that, I mean I don't know where bashrc.txt is located.
[05:00] <hittt> dr_willis: im not really in the mood of touching the source, i just need access to the preferences and that 3rd party thingy
[05:00] <heoyea> selite: in ur home folder, hit ctrl+h
[05:00] <dr_willis> selite:   its   .bashrc
[05:00] <tom_> heoyea -- I know. I also killed dpkg, synaptic, etc. ... It just comes back next time I reboot though
[05:00] <heoyea> selite: if u dont got it create one
[05:01] <dr_willis> hittt: those wont do 'everything'
[05:01] <tom_> I need to know how to not remove it, but to STOP THE INSTALLER, so that apt doesn't try to keep installing it.
[05:01] <M13_> dos anyone know anything about dosbox here for ubuntu ???
[05:01] <bazhang> M13_, whats the real question
[05:01] <dr_willis> M13_:  its fun for old games
[05:01] <tom_> I need to find out where is the thing that says "Install Matlab next" and remove that
[05:02] <hittt> dr_willis: im not going for everything or nothing. I just need to change whatever i can from here
[05:02] <heoyea> tom_: try uninstall it package from the command line 1st
[05:02] <selite> heoyea: I did 'gedit .bashrc' and I added 'nameiwant() { echo hello; }' and it didn't work.
[05:02] <robbie> Hi, how can I convert a OneNote file to PDF in Linux?
[05:02] <dr_willis> !ccsm | hittt
[05:02] <heoyea> selite: is just an example, u put what ever code u want
[05:02] <dongli> hello
[05:03] <dr_willis> selite: open a new shell to load the new bash configs
[05:03] <M13_> im tring to play Arena on it but idk how to mount a drive for it and idk the command to print stuff in current directories
[05:03] <dongli> Does any one know how to install ubuntu into ThinkStation C30?
[05:03] <dr_willis> then type... nameiwant
[05:03] <Jordan_U> dongli: Are you having a particular problem?
[05:04] <selite> heoyea: Doesn't work, command not found.
[05:04] <heoyea> or just type bash again to reload
[05:04] <tom_> Ah - I think I figured it out -- dpkg -P was what I needed
[05:04] <heoyea> selite: u gotta reload it everytime u edit the bashrc file
[05:04] <dongli> Yes, I have installed it, but can not boot.
[05:04] <dr_willis> m13 i recall dosbox having a mount commant. you did read its docs?
[05:05] <heoyea> selite: just run bash again
[05:06] <Jordan_U> tom_: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get purge matlab-support" (or if it brings up a pseudo-graphical dialog, post a screenshot).
[05:06] <selite> heoyea: I did. I get "syntax error near unexpected token"
[05:07] <Jordan_U> selite: Please pastebin your complete .bashrc
[05:07] <dongli> Jordan_U: I have installed ubuntu into ThinkStation, but can not boot from it. Do you have any idea? Thanks!
[05:07] <Jordan_U> dongli: What happens when you try to boot?
[05:08] <selite> Jordan_U: There is no need. Just tell me what should I add in the .bashrc, something that compiles though.
[05:08] <heoyea> selite: then u did something wrong
[05:08] <dongli> Jordan_U: No bootable device found
[05:08] <selite> heoyea: Nothing is wrong except the code that you provided. Considering there is a syntax error.
[05:08] <Jordan_U> selite: There is a need, as what you've already been given is correct, which means that something else is wrong with your .bashrc.
[05:08] <selite> Okay.
[05:09] <dongli> Jordan_U: Does ubuntu support ThinkStation C30? Or can I do something to fix it?
[05:09] <selite> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/zhekmATQ
[05:10] <Jordan_U> selite: You forgot the spaces. Copy and paste exactly what heoyea gave you.
[05:10] <hittt> i selected 'gnome' from the logon screen and now nothing shows up except windows (with no window manager)
[05:11] <tucemiux> anyone knows how to install gnome without remix on 12.10?
[05:11] <selite> Jordan_U: Again, syntax error.
[05:11] <Jordan_U> tucemiux: What do you mean by "without remix"?
[05:12] <Jordan_U> selite: Please pastebin your new .bashrc .
[05:12] <selite> Jordan_U: Copy pasted it perfectly. Ok, and thanks.
[05:12] <hittt> someone help me how can i logout?
[05:12] <selite> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/RJqbwyYD
[05:12] <Jordan_U> hittt: Log out of Ubuntu, or quit your IRC client (this chat)?
[05:13] <heoyea> hittt: pull plug?
[05:13] <dr_willis> hittt:  go to console.. "sudo service lightdm restart"
[05:13] <Jordan_U> selite: You're still missing spaces. Please litteraly use copy and paste.
[05:13] <jordi> hi .)
[05:13] <hittt> nothing opened but xchat (which loads up automatically) no window manager or anything
[05:13] <Jordan_U> selite: Ahh, I see the problem now :)
[05:14] <heoyea> hittt: hold ALt+Printscreen+k
[05:14] <tucemiux> Jordan_U,  the current ubuntu install has the remix look and feel instead of good old gnome
[05:14] <hittt> andrewass
[05:14] <dr_willis> old gnome?  you mean gnome 2?
[05:15] <Jordan_U> selite: What heoyea gave you *was* incorrect, but when you repeated it, saying "I added 'nameiwant() { echo hello; }' and it didn't work." what you posted was actually correct :) If you use exactly 'nameiwant() { echo hello; }' it will work :)
[05:15] <tucemiux> dr_willis, ideally gnome 3 but ubuntu now has by default the remix gui - I can't use that - I have to use gnome - how do I install gnome?
[05:15] <tucemiux> == without hosing the current install ==
[05:15] <hittt> andrewass
[05:15] <hittt> andrewass
[05:16] <selite> Jordan_U: Perfect, now, help me achieve this 'rn fileName' will do this 'javac hello.java' and then 'java hello'?
[05:16] <dr_willis> tucemiux:  huh? you want the gnome 2 look or gnome 3 with nome shell?
[05:16] <heoyea> selite: Jordan_U not sure wat u guys on about by mine was correct =D
[05:17] <Jordan_U> heoyea: No, it wasn't. Try copying and pasting it into bash (if you add either spaces or a newline between '{' and 'echo' it will work, but without that it's a syntax error).
[05:17] <tucemiux> dr_willis, ill go for latest and greatest, does gnome 3 look like remix though?  I just want the plain old gnome
[05:18] <heoyea> Jordan_U: well im on zsh, maybe a little diff
[05:18] <Jordan_U> !notunity | tucemiux
[05:18] <dr_willis> tucemiux:  your words are confuseng.. gnome shell does not look like gnome2
[05:18] <dr_willis> bbl.
[05:19] <heoyea> selite: u can do like name() { javac "$1" ;}
[05:19] <tucemiux> dr_willis, I think Jordan_U nailed it, remix = unity, I don't want unity, I want plain gnome, like this: http://www.webcoz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/gnome-3-desktop-screenshoot.jpeg
[05:19] <selite> heoyea: Yup did it.
[05:19] <selite> heoyea: Thanks a lot.
[05:19] <selite> Jordan_U: Thanks a lot.
[05:19] <Jordan_U> selite: You're welcome.
[05:19] <heoyea> selite: use $@ for multiple arguments
[05:21] <Jordan_U> tom__: Did you see my message to you?
[05:21] <tucemiux> jordan, "investigate" gnome-tweak-tool?  Does this means I'll have to figure out how to exorcise unity? :-(
[05:21] <hittt> freenode thought it'd be fun to kill me about 30 times... sorry about that
[05:22] <tucemiux> my netbook got hosed pretty good and I'm going to lose some sleep figuring this out o.O
[05:23] <hittt> ok, so i picked "Gnome classic (No effects)" and it seems to be the old good gnome without any netbook stuff
[05:23] <Jordan_U> tom__: Please run "sudo apt-get purge matlab-support" and select cancel when asked for the installation path to matlab, that should get everything back to normal.
[05:23] <Jordan_U> tucemiux: No, gnome-tweak-tool is just a nice GUI for twiddling gnome-shell's knobs :)
[05:24] <tucemiux> hittt, how did you install the packages so that you now have a "gnome classic" option?  You figured it out already, can you share your experience please? :-)
[05:25] <hittt> tucemiux: by restarting that services i got greeted with a login manager i've never seen before, it had much more options
[05:25] <hittt> your sarcasm isnt going anywhere
[05:25] <tucemiux> unity looks kind of decent but unfortunately I don't have time to mess with it right now, I'll have to hit it up eventually though
[05:25] <tucemiux> hittt, you mean you switched to gdm ?
[05:25] <hittt> yea
[05:26] <hittt> its heavily glitched but it works
[05:27] <tucemiux> Jordan_U, it looks **fantastic** , I tried on on a virtual machine, im slapping that on my ultrabook now, thanks you buddy !!!!!!!!
[05:27] <munderwo-work> Has anybody got experience with using pbuilder to build .deb packages?
[05:27] <Jordan_U> tucemiux: You're welcome :)
[05:28] <heoyea> nop
[05:29] <Jordan_U> dongli: Can you boot from a GNU/Linux LiveCD/USB, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces?
[05:29] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | dongli
[05:30] <dongli> Jordan_U: Yes, I can boot into the LiveCD/USB, and installed ubuntu from there.
[05:31] <voxadam> I'm in the process of building a new desktop and I was wondering if there was any way to, using KVM, start or restart a Windows session when my girlfriend logs in. I have plenty of memory and my i5 3570 supports all the necessary virtualisation technologies.
[05:32] <munderwo-work> Im using pbuilder to build a custom package that involves a bunch of libraries and a python package, and then using fpm to build the virtualenv into a deb package. I've got all that working in a hook with pbuilder. Now I need to get the deb file back out. I dont have a .dsc file (because its a custom build) is there a way I can copy the .deb file out of the chroot?
[05:32] <Daxter> so yud want to save the state of the o for when your gf gets back? did i read that right?
[05:32] <dr_willis> hmm.. there us a ubuntu-remixx variant that just comes with gnomelshell. calling unity 'remixx' is incorrect
[05:32] <crimsonmane> voxadam: you can install VirtualBox, and I'm sure there's a command line method to run VB with a specified installed VM operating system, and you can make that command a startup command ending with " &"
[05:33] <voxadam> crimsonmane: Thanks. I'll take a look.
[05:33] <gimpygoo> why would update manager show me updates to software and then not let me update the software because of it not being from a trusted source?
[05:33] <dr_willis> gimpygoo: invalid gpg key perhaps
[05:34] <dr_willis> or the key expired
[05:34] <gimpygoo> it says requires installation of untrusted packages.
[05:34] <gimpygoo> the action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[05:34] <hittt> alt+f2 doesnt work though... why?
[05:34] <heoyea> gimpygoo: the gui sucks usually, best to use the command line for it
[05:34] <gimpygoo> it just came up...
[05:34] <Jordan_U> dongli: And you're going to run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[05:34] <gimpygoo> ok
[05:35] <gimpygoo> is there an easy way to grab all of the updates using the term ?
[05:35] <Jordan_U> gimpygoo: Run "sudo apt-get update" and it should get rid of the error, if not please pastebin the complete output of the command.
[05:36] <crimsonmane> gimpygoo: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[05:36] <gimpygoo> jordan, that worked.
[05:36] <crimsonmane> the && means the second half executes only if the first half is successful. that's how i update my systems
[05:36] <gimpygoo> thank you .. you guys are always very helpful.
[05:37] <gimpygoo> I appreciate the help always..
[05:37] <gimpygoo> allways **
[05:37] <gimpygoo> is there an easy way to see what is slowing down my system ?
[05:37] <heoyea> gimpygoo: use htop
[05:39] <Aaron> yeah
[05:39] <Aaron> or top
[05:39] <Aaron> ;)
[05:40] <hittt> whats funny, is that i found out that what i've been typing in the tty was echoed in here too
[05:40] <dr_willis> top  | less
[05:40] <hittt> for some bizzarre reason
[05:40] <dr_willis> naughty :-P
[05:41] <hittt> indeed naughty
[05:41] <hittt> that one was my password
[05:41] <dr_willis> hittt:  seen some reports of a bug like that
[05:41] <hittt> the 'ass' are initials though ;)
[05:41] <hittt> i still use them cause people always misinterpret them
[05:42] <GOBot9> hello everyone
[05:42] <hittt> dr_willis by the way not only i was typing my password here
[05:42] <hittt> but most of the processes from the desktop i killed
[05:42] <hittt> are still running
[05:42] <dr_willis> hittt: i dident see you type that stuff
[05:42] <hittt> i saw the scrollback
[05:43] <hittt> it was like, 10 lines after u told me to go to tty
[05:43] <hittt> and it only printed the password
[05:43] <dr_willis> :-P
[05:43] <ampi4> hello i hav a q let's see i need a apper
[05:43] <hittt> the username and the commands i typed were hidden
[05:43] <ampi4> *papper
[05:43] <dr_willis> paper?
[05:44] <hittt> for example right now
[05:44] <hittt> firefox is running on the other window manager
[05:44] <hittt> thats a wild-ish bug
[05:44] <hittt> ill reboot
[05:45] <ampi4> yes..
[05:46] <doomlord> is there such a thing as a commandline tool to send a message to an irc channel
[05:46] <L3top> You are going to have to narrow it down ampi4. There is a lot of paper in the world.
[05:47] <L3top> !irrsi
[05:47] <dr_willis> doomlord: most irc clients  are scriptable and can do that somehow
[05:47] <tavoe> I'm trying to shrink my ubuntu partition and expand my windows one.
[05:47] <tavoe> I have logged on via liveCD and am looking at gparted.
[05:48] <kanupatar> hello
[05:48] <kanupatar> is there any tools in linux to parse a directory ?
[05:49] <tavoe> Problem is, I can't resize dev/sda3. It seems to be locked. I can resize dev/sda6, its child thatis using almost all the allocated space, but the freed space is still part of dev/sda3.
[05:49] <dr_willis> parse in what way? t#e find command maybe what you want
[05:50] <dr_willis> sday
[05:50] <dr_willis> sda6 would be an logical partition inside of a extended partion
[05:50] <tavoe> what is linux-swap?
[05:51] <dr_willis> !swap
[05:51] <bobbert> Tavoe: linux uses swap if it has too much in RAM for the actual RAM to cope with
[05:51] <noliverh> how to change ip address using terminal?
[05:52] <dr_willis> noliverh: ifconfig i recall
[05:53] <dr_willis> windows uses ipconfig... or am i backwa|es
[05:53] <crimsonmane> ifconfig is linux
[05:53] <crimsonmane> ipconfig is windows
[05:53] <noliverh> okies
[05:53] <bobbert> but how do you actually change the IP? ifconfig lists all the settings.
[05:53] <dr_willis> tricky ms. B-)
[05:53] <noliverh> yah
[05:53] <noliverh> but how?
[05:53] <crimsonmane> bobbert: "man ifconfig"
[05:54] <dr_willis> ifconfig --help
[05:54] <hittt> compiz is giving me a headache now
[05:54] <evilmoo> ifconfig a.b.c.d netmask w.x.y.z
[05:54] <ampi4> ok L3top my q is how to config a tv card avermedia avertv super 009 Tv card in ubuntu 12.04
[05:54] <evilmoo> er... ifconfig ethx a.b.c.d ....
[05:54] <L3top> ampi4: is that an ngene?
[05:54] <noliverh> evilmoo: how about their dns and gateways?
[05:55] <ampi4> L3top is a tv card
[05:55] <bobbert> crimsonmane: ifconfig address <wanted address> ?????
[05:55] <mcgrete> Hello.  I am new to fetchmail and thunderbird.  Looking to transfer email from gmail account to local drive (and remove from gmail), and locally use/view with Thunderbird.  I have had no luck searching web for this, at least not anything other than perhaps 2005 timeframe.  Does anyone have experience with this?
[05:55] <L3top> Yes, I know. What are you attempting to capture in... what program?
[05:56] <jbermudes> I have a 12.10 DVD that boots fine on machine A, but on machine B it just gives me a blank cursor for a few minutes then the machine proceeds to boot off the hard drive. Any suggestions?
[05:56] <Jonta_> Imageviewer that, when showing PNGs with transparency (Alpha-channel) show what's behind the image? E.g. the window of another program, or the desktop background?
[05:56] <crimsonmane> bobbert: idunno, i didnt read the man page
[05:56] <ampi4> i dont know maeby i think i wana use the default ubuntu program
[05:56] <ampi4> L3top
[05:57] <ampi4> is that's possible
[05:57] <bobbert> jbermudes: if you want to install Ubuntu an alternate install CD should do it.
[05:57] <jbermudes> bobbert: Didn't Canonical drop alternate install CDs for 12.10?
[05:58] <bobbert> jbermudes: I don't know, if they did you could download an old anternate install then update to 12.10.
[05:58] <L3top> ampi4: there isn't really a default program for capture... regardless... the things I am looking at looks like they can get the card running, but not audio... gimme a couple minutes ampi4.
[05:58] <crimsonmane> i'll find the alternate for you (if it exists)
[05:59] <ampi4> rigth L3top
[05:59] <mcgrete> anyone use fetchmail?
[06:00] <heoyea> isnt that dead
[06:01] <mcgrete> still in Synaptic; recently released; I admit, I am lazy to read the man page, requires scripting.  Looking for examples to follow along with Thunderbird...
[06:01] <crimsonmane> 12.04 alternate at the bottom of http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[06:02] <mcgrete> I am open to different alternative(s)...
[06:02] <mcgrete> suggestions?
[06:02] <bobbert> mcgrete: you simply sign in to Thunderbird with you Gmail address and opt to delete the mails from the server, then they will be gone from Gmail and on your thunderbird.
[06:02] <jbermudes> crimsonmane: Ah, thanks. It seems that there's also a "Minimal CD" thing too now... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[06:02] <jerry_l> hello
[06:02] <rickstar> hi mate
[06:03] <mcgrete> bobbert: That simple?  Great.  Thanks, I will try it...
[06:03] <heoyea> minimal is the netinstall, takes too long
[06:03] <crimsonmane> i believe the mini is a basic linux install without a desktop environment - i could be wrong
[06:03] <rickstar> need to know what to do short of reinstalling ubuntu to get lan (internet to work)
[06:04] <bobbert> jbermudes: it might be hardware driver probalem, though
[06:04] <rickstar> went down after installing update :(
[06:04] <bobbert> rickstar: what is not happening on your LAN?
[06:04] <sargennto> Anybody know why I would lose my volume slider graphic in Unity after installing the 'xubuntu-desktop' package?
[06:04] <L3top> I don't think you are going to have any luck getting that card rolling ampi4.
[06:04] <jerry_l> i am looking forward to fixing the mouse KVM issue. when switchng between windows and Linux on a PS2 KVM the mouse goes crazy and i have to reboot one of the systems.
[06:04] <jerry_l> is there an ubuntu dev room?
[06:05] <heoyea> sargennto: might got replaced by xfce 1
[06:05] <rickstar> bobbert: went down after installing update
[06:05] <bobbert> rickstar: can you configure the interface manually?
[06:05] <rickstar> don't know what i need to do?
[06:05] <crimsonmane> rickstar: have you tried "ifconfig eth0 up" for ethernet or "ifconfig wlan0 up" for wireless?
[06:06] <crimsonmane> those are zeros, not capital o's
[06:06] <ampi4> thx L3top for your time
[06:06] <fontgorilla> zug zug. How do I find all *.ttf files (recursively) in a certain directory - and cp them to a specific folder?
[06:06] <rickstar> no... try it now... which program i use?
[06:06] <bobbert> rickstar: run that command in the terminal
[06:07] <Erin> fontgorilla, cp -R *.ttf /folder
[06:07] <fontgorilla> Erin: that's what i thought too but it doesn't seem to let me
[06:07] <Erin> eh?
[06:07] <jbermudes> bobbert: Yeah, It's probably the video card. X freaked out when I tried the 9.04 live cd
[06:08] <Erin> fontgorilla, gives an error or ?
[06:08] <hittt> my compiz is freaking out, anything i can do?
[06:08] <dongli_> Have anyone installed ubuntu 12.10 into a ThinkStation C30?
[06:08] <hittt> if i run the desktop effects, it lags alot, and then after 10 seconds compiz crashes
[06:08] <warhole> early morning in spain,just looking into ubuntu about firsttime
[06:08] <hittt> leaving me with no window manager
[06:08] <bobbert> jbermudes: ouch, that can be a tricky problem to fix. Have you tried a different distro and had same problem?
[06:08] <fontgorilla> Erin: also that one will find all ttf on the filesystem wont it? I only want in a certain directory -R
[06:08] <bobbert> warhole: welcome!
[06:09] <Erin> fontgorilla, it will do it for whatever DIR you are in
[06:09] <bobbert> hittt: that probably means problem with video card driver.
[06:09] <fontgorilla> ah, that might be my problem , my starting point
[06:09] <warhole> yeah breakfast i will let it go,bad english.
[06:09] <jbermudes> bobbert: Nope, this machine is trying to migrate from Vista to Linux, and Ubuntu usually has such a good track record with drivers that I tried it first
[06:09] <hittt> bobbert: it worked great in 10.04, i just upgraded and it crashes
[06:10] <Erin> fontgorilla, yea cd to the dir you want to copy the files
[06:10] <Erin> from.
[06:11] <bobbert> jbermudes: I'm afraid it is probably drivers. What is the Graphics card?
[06:11] <sargennto> heoyea: if i did 'apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop' would this be safe? and would i restore my old slider?
[06:11] <fontgorilla> erin sudo cp -R *.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts
[06:11] <Erin> fontgorilla, looks good.
[06:11] <bobbert> hittt: you did an upgrade from 10.04 through to 12.10 with the OS or did you do fresh install?
[06:12] <hittt> upgraded, and im on 12.04
[06:12] <fontgorilla> erin does the -R need to be after cp or at the end?
[06:12] <hittt> and i swear i had a program called "Propriatery Drivers"
[06:12] <hittt> where did it go D:
[06:12] <Erin> fontgorilla, that will have all the .ttf files owne by root, which might be a problem later you can use chmod to change em after
[06:12] <heoyea> sargennto: u might want to find what the name of that slider and reinstall the silder only
[06:12] <Erin> fontgorilla, you had it right
[06:13] <crimsonmane> fontgorilla: the "-R" means recursive, so it'll grab things in your directory plus all directories within that one
[06:13] <fontgorilla> erin this isn't havent the expected result
[06:13] <TheLordOfTime> hittt, try "Hardware Drivers"
[06:13] <TheLordOfTime> hittt, type that into the dash, it should show up.
[06:13] <umer> Hey folks. I was wanting a minimal install, and thought that I could do that with the alternate installer. However, it seems like that installed the full desktop suite. Is there a way I can remove all of the non-base packages with out having to do a re-install using the server iso? This is on Ubuntu 12.04.1
[06:13] <dongli_> Does Ubuntu support ThinkStation C30?
[06:14] <bobbert> hittt: oh, I see, then maybe Unity has something to do with it? I'm afraid I have no experience with upgrading Ubuntu, as I always choose to do a fresh install.
[06:14] <rickstar> :bobert no god
[06:14] <hittt> TheLordOfTime: im in the 'classic gnome' with no effects
[06:14] <rickstar> *good
[06:14] <TheLordOfTime> ... ah.
[06:14] <hittt> i just want to run the effects on it
[06:15] <bobbert> rickstar: what is no good?
[06:15] <Erin> fontgorilla, idk what result did it give?
[06:15] <bobbert> hittt: I'm stumped :(
[06:15] <hittt> oh and alt+f2 isnt working
[06:16] <rickstar> still not working... any drivers or programs i can get 4 it 2 work?
[06:16] <Erin> fontgorilla, it works on my system ...
[06:16] <jbermudes> bobbert: GeForce 8500GT
[06:17] <bobbert> rickstar: sorry, I had forgotten about you there, buddy. Do you know what settings are required for your network?
[06:17] <hittt> ok i run jockey-gtk from terminal
[06:18] <rickstar> bobbert: no i don't... it was working fine until i installed upgrade
[06:18] <hittt> there was my old driver installed
[06:18] <hittt> and ill install a newer one
[06:18] <chael> hey..
[06:18] <chael> hey..
[06:18] <sargennto> Does anybody know the package name for the volume slider in Unity?
[06:18] <Erin> chael you sound like fat albert, HEY hEy HEY!
[06:19] <fontgorilla> erin, strange. I dont get why it doesnt work. it seems to have...I'll put the dir names here to see if I'm doing it right
[06:19] <rickstar> bobbert: might just be easier to save work and reforfatt
[06:20] <Erin> fontgorilla, like it doesn't move the files or ?
[06:20] <bobbert> jbermudes: this is a fairly old graphics card, which should mean it is better supported! considering dirvers are available here http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.09.html I really am not sure waht is wrong. When you get to black screen is there a flashing cursor?
[06:20] <fontgorilla> erin it looks like it only cped the first files it could find in the first recursive dir it went to... (frown)
[06:21] <chael> 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Logon failure.
[06:21] <crimsonmane> fontgorilla: before running the actual "cp" command, construct it using "ls" in order to see what it's going to select before you do any copying
[06:21] <chael> how to fix it?
[06:21] <Erin> fontgorilla, with the -R flag it should recurse all the directories....
[06:22] <fontgorilla> crimsonmane: how do i use ls as you suggest?
[06:22] <crimsonmane> fontgorilla: put ls where cp is
[06:22] <jbermudes> bobbert: Yes, when it attempts to boot from DVD, the cursor blinks for a minute on the top row of the screen, moves to the next line, blinks for another minute, then boots off the HDD
[06:22] <chael> 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Logon failure.  how to fix it?
[06:22] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla: find /path/to/files -name \* ttf -exec cp '{}' /path/to/destination
[06:23] <hittt> whoa it really was my driver
[06:23] <hittt> thanks, bobbert, TheLordOfTime
[06:23] <Erin> fontgorilla, ls -lR | grep .ttf
[06:23] <hittt> i was using the recommended one
[06:23] <hittt> and it didn't really work
[06:23] <bobbert> rickstar: well we can try this first. try to run "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.25"
[06:24] <bobbert> jbermudes: when it gets to the flashing cursor try pressing ctrl+alt+f5 and see if you get a terminal access.
[06:25] <gimpygoo> if your application says that it is going to minimize to tray, where does it go ?
[06:25] <chael> hey..
[06:25] <gimpygoo> because from what I can tell it is still running in htop...
[06:26] <gimpygoo> at least the process is there still....
[06:26] <bobbert> gimpygoo: what application?
[06:26] <gimpygoo> heya chael
[06:26] <gimpygoo> xchat actually.
[06:26] <gimpygoo> it disapeared when i moved it to a different workspace, then i opened a new connection
[06:26] <heoyea> gimpygoo: goes to tray, it tray dont exist it is invisible
[06:26] <heoyea> if*
[06:26] <bobbert> gimpygoo: if you minimise an application it should minimise to it's icon on the launcher.
[06:27] <ampi4> L3top some one on china ryantell me that's solve with the command tvtime | arecord -D hw:1,0 -f S16_LE -c2 -r32000 | aplay - and need to install QT jack and set up yourt card to hw1,0 that's produce a server error and you close the into the icontray this kicks in the audio That's Solve by ryan_turner please update into ubuntu-ask
[06:27] <gimpygoo> yeah, it didnt minimize though...
[06:27] <gimpygoo> it was just invisible...
[06:27] <gimpygoo> how do you get an application un, invisible ?
[06:27] <gimpygoo> lol
[06:27] <heoyea> gimpygoo: launch again
[06:27] <gimpygoo> thats what I thought too heoyea
[06:27] <heoyea> gimpygoo: or alt+tab
[06:27] <Stanley00> gimpygoo: try look at message menu, if it's not there, you should install xchat-indicator
[06:28] <gimpygoo> is that an addon?
[06:28] <gimpygoo> or plugin ?
[06:28] <chael> 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Logon failure.  how  to fix : gimpygoo
[06:28] <Stanley00> gimpygoo: *at message indicator*, sorry
[06:30] <gimpygoo> is there a specific command for that addon ?
[06:30] <gimpygoo> i tried at message indicator, and it didnt pull anything..
[06:30] <dr_willis> tthe whole minimize to the systray is getting sort of outmoded  ;-)  and old skool
[06:30] <gimpygoo>  yeah.. i noticed :)
[06:30] <Stanley00> gimpygoo: "sudo apt-get install xchat-indicator", message-indicator installed by default
[06:31] <gimpygoo> i dont seem to have a systray.
[06:31] <gimpygoo> lol
[06:31] <gimpygoo> thanks Stanley00
[06:31] <dr_willis> indicator applets are replaceing the ystray
[06:31] <fontgorilla> erin what can i do with the ls grep output?
[06:31] <bobbert> gimpygoo: quite a lot of chat apps will 'close' to their icon in the system tray.
[06:32] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla: you need to use find to recurse into directories looking for files to copy
[06:32] <Erin> fontgorilla, just shows the .ttf files recursively
[06:32] <Erin> SolarisB1y, nah he can use ls and grep also :-P
[06:32] <sets88> Народ, вопрос на засыпку: "как узнать mac сервера к которому в данный момент подключен по pppoe?"
[06:33] <gimpygoo> when you type sudo apt-get install "x" . where does that file go ?
[06:33] <SolarisB1y> sure and xargs.. but thats more difficult and not needed =)
[06:33] <dr_willis> !ru | sets88
[06:33] <sets88> sorry wrong channel
[06:33] <fontgorilla> SolarisB1y:  that i used a long time ago to find all files with spaces and change them to underscores. but im having trouble constructing the command
[06:33] <heoyea> gimpygoo: ur /usr/bin usually
[06:33] <Erin> ls -lR | grep .ttf is hard ?
[06:33] <fontgorilla> lol erin
[06:33] <SolarisB1y> is that going to copy the files where he wants them?
[06:33] <SolarisB1y> because the find command i posted would
[06:34] <Erin> I already gave him a command that would
[06:34] <Erin> like 20 mins ago ;-p
[06:34] <SolarisB1y> cp -R wont do that
[06:34] <SolarisB1y> sorry
[06:34] <Erin> sure it will
[06:34] <fontgorilla> it doesnt erin
[06:34] <SolarisB1y> are there ttf's under multiple directories?
[06:34] <Erin> I just tried it on my machine
[06:34] <lkthomas> guys, on VI insert mode, direction control key turns into D,C,B,A. anyone have idea how to fix it ?
[06:34] <Erin> worked fine
[06:34] <SolarisB1y> like dir/*ttf/dir*ttf.. if so.. no it doesn't
[06:34] <Erin> k ill bow out good luck getting it sorted
[06:34] <fontgorilla> cp: cannot stat `*.ttf': No such file or directory
[06:35] <evilmoo> lkthomas: what is your TERM variable set to?
[06:35] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla: that means there are not ttf's in the current directory
[06:35] <sets88> Who can answer : "How can i get mac address of  the server i just connected via pppoe?"
[06:35] <heoyea> lkthomas: check ur vimrc
[06:35] <SolarisB1y> if they are further under.. thats proof that command wont work alone..
[06:35] <fontgorilla> but as erin said the cp has the -R flag, so why isn't it doing it recursive?
[06:35] <evilmoo> sets88: try tcpdump?
[06:35] <bobbert> sets88: is that like SSH?
[06:35] <lkthomas> evilmoo: xterm
[06:35] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla: because thats not what it means..
[06:36] <fontgorilla> in man find it says that
[06:36] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla: try and copy a directory with cp -f..
[06:36] <Erin> the R does mean recursive
[06:36] <evilmoo> lkthomas: are you using an xterminal?
[06:36] <Erin> man cp
[06:36] <SolarisB1y> -R means copy a directory and it's contents dude...
[06:36] <SolarisB1y> not recurse into directories deep and find files...
[06:36] <lkthomas> evilmoo: no, putty remote ssh
[06:36] <evilmoo> lkthomas: try setting it to vt100?
[06:36] <Erin> oh well he gave you a command does it work?
[06:36] <lkthomas> evilmoo: actually, it's the same on my laptop ubuntu too
[06:36] <almoxarife> #bash already, i dont want to know all the niceties of cp etc
[06:36] <fontgorilla> oh true SolarisB1y ... my mistake in not readinf man cp properly
[06:37] <sets88> almost forgot sniffers and log readers do not offer :)
[06:37] <SolarisB1y> no worries..
[06:37] <Erin> this is why I dont help people here alot almoxarife
[06:37] <SolarisB1y> and if you need to copy the files under /usr/* somewhere you'll need to prefix it with sudo
[06:37] <Erin> people like you try to complain when someone is getting help
[06:37] <evilmoo> sets88: tcpdump -e
[06:38] <hittt> ok i switched to normal 'gnome' but im not sure it should look like that
[06:38] <lkthomas> evilmoo: any idea ?
[06:38] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla: find /path/to/files -name \* ttf -exec cp '{}' /path/to/destination
[06:38] <SolarisB1y> thats the command for the record
[06:38] <lkthomas> also, how could I "convert" to ppa command if I found something I need on launchpad ?
[06:38] <hittt> i mean there is something seriously weird with this
[06:38] <evilmoo> lkthomas: does setting TERM to vt100 fix it?
[06:38] <sets88> evilmoo its a sniffer :(
[06:39] <lkthomas> evilmoo: does not help
[06:39] <lkthomas> evilmoo: same issue
[06:39] <sets88> bobbert what like SSH?
[06:39] <almoxarife> SolarisB1y: fontgorilla, take it to #bash, argue out the merits there!
[06:39] <evilmoo> lkthomas: did you export it?
[06:39] <Erin> almoxarife, who made you king ?
[06:39] <Erin> I missed the ceremony :-(
[06:40] <SolarisB1y> uncalled for
[06:40] <somsip> lkthomas: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Fix_arrow_keys_that_display_A_B_C_D_on_remote_shell
[06:40] <crimsonmane> Erin: earlier today at noon
[06:40] <Erin> they are discussing linux, its not far offtopic
[06:40] <Erin> let it be
[06:40] <fontgorilla_> this is what i have so far... SolarisB1y and Erin               find ~/googlefontdirectory -name \* ttf -exec cp '{}' /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts            this returns an error
[06:40] <almoxarife> Erin: the channel rules did, this is not the bash101 channel
[06:40] <Erin> oh calm down man
[06:40] <dr_willis> hittt: you mean gnome-shell or the gnome2 look fallback mode?
[06:40] <Erin> gonna give your self an early heart attack
[06:41] <SolarisB1y> why would a C program be discussed in bash anyway?
[06:41] <fontgorilla_> is he hassling you erin?
[06:41] <hittt> dr_willis i have no idea which one this is
[06:41] <evilmoo> sets88: pppoe -d ?
[06:41] <Erin> nah he is hassling you lol
[06:41] <almoxarife> Erin: have a nice day
[06:41] <hittt> if i hit the top left corner it shows me all windows, nice
[06:41] <fontgorilla_> hehe
[06:41] <SolarisB1y> or trying..
[06:41] <hittt> if i hit bottom right it shows me my windows again, still nice
[06:41] <Erin> almoxarife, huh... ?
[06:41] <hittt> but i have no minimize button
[06:41] <hittt> or maximize
[06:41] <hittt> i only have a close button
[06:41] <dr_willis> hittt: check youtube for videos of each.  ;-)
[06:41] <heoyea> l33t
[06:41] <hittt> is that normal?
[06:42] <dr_willis> for gnome-shell y|s
[06:42] <dr_willis> yes
[06:42] <fontgorilla_> Erin: SolarisB1y I struggle with these a little. im getting better though but some things I still dont have a handle on
[06:43] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla_: no worries its why were here to learn/help =)
[06:43] <Erin> fontgorilla_, use the command he gave you apparently I didn't comprehend the CP manual
[06:43] <dr_willis> activities on left sie. desktops along right side .. gnome shell stuff
[06:43] <hittt> right, how can i add the minimize-maximize button back?
[06:43] <fontgorilla_> this is what i have so far... SolarisB1y and Erin               find ~/googlefontdirectory -name \* ttf -exec cp '{}' /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts            this returns an error              find: paths must precede expression: ttf
[06:43] <dr_willis> hittt: theres some tweak tools to do it
[06:43] <sets88> evilmoo thank you very much, thats all i needed :)
[06:44] <SolarisB1y> uh i think i had a space in there by mistake
[06:44] <evilmoo> sets88: cool, you're welcome
[06:44] <hittt> name one please ? :)
[06:44] <fontgorilla_> SolarisB1y: \*ttf
[06:44] <evilmoo> font: i think you want -name \*.ttf, not -name \* ttf
[06:44] <SolarisB1y> yep .. fontgorilla_  sudo find ~/googlefontdirectory -name \*ttf -exec cp '{}' /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts
[06:44] <dr_willis> one in the repos. try searching. i dont use gnome shell.
[06:44] <SolarisB1y> my bad ;> extra spacey
[06:45] <SolarisB1y> youll need sudo
[06:45] <heoyea> might want to use -iname
[06:45] <dr_willis> gnome-tweak or somthing like it
[06:45] <SolarisB1y> if some of them are named TTF sure..
[06:45] <fontgorilla_> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[06:45] <heoyea> mainly digital camera got Caps
[06:46] <sets88> evilmoo oops not exactly, it just runs discovery and shows one of founded servers randomly
[06:46] <SolarisB1y> hrmm
[06:46] <stroodlepup> anybody installed 12.04 on an hp 4445s laptop?
[06:46] <heoyea> nop
[06:46] <evilmoo> sets88: how many are available to you?
[06:46] <sets88> evilmoo 3
[06:46] <fontgorilla_> SolarisB1y: hrmm indeed :) XD
[06:46] <SolarisB1y> you have it all on one line right?
[06:47] <fontgorilla_> yep
[06:47] <evilmoo> sets88: you want the MAC for all of them?
[06:47] <stroodlepup> nobody?
[06:47] <almoxarife> fontgorilla_: i have a solution, install kde, using dolphin do a window split, on the left do a find *.ttf on the right open the dir/folder where you want all these files to end up, when the find is done copy all from the left and drag to the right, done!, on the the next chore
[06:47] <fontgorilla_> almoxarife: lol
[06:48] <sets88> evilmoo no i want the MAC of server i connected to
[06:48] <Erin> wow what a great solution
[06:48] <Erin> >.<
[06:48] <almoxarife> Erin: not as sexy as bashing i know, but it works, the first time!
[06:48] <dr_willis> mc can do that also
[06:48] <Erin> intall a new WM to copy files
[06:49] <Erin> never heard of that :-\
[06:49] <Erin> its like killing a fly with a .44
[06:49] <almoxarife> dr_willis: i bet nautilus does too, but i cant repeat the steps
[06:49] <stroodlepup> hi...
[06:49] <dr_willis> actually i thought nautilus had a way. with the / key
[06:49] <stroodlepup> need some help
[06:49] <evilmoo> sets88: what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:50] <SolarisB1y> oh my bad fontgorilla_ really silly of me
[06:50] <SolarisB1y> yep .. fontgorilla_  sudo find ~/googlefontdirectory -name \*ttf -exec cp '{}' /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts  \;
[06:50] <almoxarife> Erin: less you forgot, the point of ubuntu is 'relative ease'
[06:50] <SolarisB1y> thats all no need to open a window and manually go through folders that will work
[06:50] <fontgorilla_> it is almoxarife very easy to use. I just want to do things in bash all in go go, instead of doing what you suggest.
[06:51] <stroodlepup> does ubuntu have a grudge against amd vision pro cards?
[06:51] <sgo11> is there a command to list all autostart services? is there a command to check if a service is autostarted or not? I asked this question many times here. no answer yet. thanks.
[06:51] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla_: \; at the end is the win
[06:51] <almoxarife> fontgorilla_: go get bash lessons on #bash!
[06:51] <SolarisB1y> this has nothing to do with bash by the way
[06:51] <fontgorilla_> no thank you. im on ubuntu 12.04 almoxarife  :)
[06:51] <crimsonmane> what?
[06:51] <crimsonmane> it has everything to do with bash
[06:51] <SolarisB1y> find nor cp are written in bash
[06:51] <crimsonmane> "expansion" even
[06:51] <SolarisB1y> im using zsh
[06:51] <dr_willis> stroodlepup: you got it backwards... amd/ati has a grudge againts linyx
[06:51] <fontgorilla_> just ignore me if you cant stand my ignorance almoxarife
[06:51] <SolarisB1y> negative
[06:51] <evilmoo> stroodlepup: usually the problem is the hardware developers not providing appropriate documentation to open source developers
[06:52] <fontgorilla_> here, ill even type out the command for you almoxarife ... /ignore fontgorilla_
[06:52] <almoxarife> fontgorilla_: have a nice day
[06:52] <hittt> dr_willis: i found it, i had it installed already
[06:52] <fontgorilla_> you too sir. :)
[06:52] <Erin> he is so polite while being a ....
[06:52] <Erin> kind of interesting
[06:52] <heoyea> sgo11: think all the autostart stuff is ins ur ~/.config/autostart/
[06:52] <sets88> i have a 3 pppoe servers and i'm connected on one of it, i want to login via ssh on server i connected on, to do some manipulations, now i just login on each of them, and then checks
[06:53] <fontgorilla_> SolarisB1y: what does the \; at teh end do?
[06:53] <sgo11> heoyea: that is not for services.
[06:53] <SolarisB1y> terminates it
[06:53] <stroodlepup> ubuntu livecd hangs on an hp 4445s laptop.... need help
[06:53] <fontgorilla_> lol
[06:53] <SolarisB1y> it does
[06:53] <SolarisB1y> it terminates the arguments passed to -exec
[06:54] <Erin> its the terminator!
[06:54] <sets88> evilmoo wrote the message, forgot to assign it to you :)
[06:54] <SolarisB1y> lol
[06:54] <Erin> run sarah connor
[06:54] <fontgorilla_> something so simple. But why does it need to be specifically terminated?
[06:54] <heoyea> sgo11: maybe initctl list
[06:54] <]||[> If I select the `upgrade' option from the installer, will it wipe /root?
[06:54] <crimsonmane> no it won't wipe root
[06:54] <]||[> thank you
[06:54] <Erin> fontgorilla_, so the robots can take over ;p
[06:54] <fontgorilla_> (it works by the way)
[06:55] <fontgorilla_> grin erin :)
[06:55] <Erin> fontgorilla_, you can make a bash script with that command in it also
[06:55] <Erin> for future use
[06:55] <sgo11> heoyea: initctl list only for current status. not autostart status.
[06:55] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla_: no clue why =)
[06:55] <fontgorilla_> SolarisB1y: dosen't it know to terminate by itself?
[06:55] <SolarisB1y> its run in an interpreter
[06:55] <Erin> no, then it would be self aware. like skynet
[06:55] <Erin> hahaha you set me up for that one
[06:55] <fontgorilla_> it just works therefore it is?
[06:55] <dr_willis> self termination!
[06:56] <Erin> dr_willis, suicide ?
[06:56] <evilmoo> sets88: use pppoe -S to connect to the specific PPPOE server you want?
[06:56] <SolarisB1y> so the interpreter may mistake some of the arguments given to -exec for other things..
[06:56] <sets88> evilmoo what if it's down?
[06:56] <evilmoo> why do you have three PPPoE servers in the first place?
[06:56] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2961673/find-missing-argument-to-exec || answer is there ;>
[06:56] <fontgorilla_> well, my next task is to change all the cp'ed fonts to be owned by me. I must chown something? chown . 666
[06:57] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla_: yes and that you CAN do -R with
[06:57] <Erin> fontgorilla_, sudo chown -R * user:group
[06:57] <Erin> maybe ?
[06:57] <SolarisB1y> well no.. i dunno about the . 666 thing
[06:57] <SolarisB1y> lols
[06:57] <crimsonmane> 777
[06:57] <crimsonmane> or 770
[06:57] <dr_willis> fontgorilla_: owned by your user? but in the system widefont dir?
[06:57] <SolarisB1y> chmod changes that not chown
[06:58] <Erin> I meant chmod lol.
[06:58] <Erin> wait no
[06:58] <Erin> he wants chown doesnt he
[06:58] <SolarisB1y> yep
[06:58] <Erin> so would my command work
[06:58] <SolarisB1y> but he should really make them the same ownership as the other files
[06:58] <Erin> *.ttf anyway
[06:58] <SolarisB1y> Erin: yes it would
[06:58] <jerry_l> how do i add a text file named ubuntu12.04 to a DVD iso?
[06:58] <Erin> hurray huzzah for -R doing what I think it does.
[06:58] <dr_willis> for a single user they can have their own.      .fonts  directory
[06:59] <SolarisB1y> also true
[06:59] <fontgorilla_> so, how do i find out who should own them?
[06:59] <SolarisB1y> and just update the font cache
[06:59] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla_: see dr_willis comment
[06:59] <fontgorilla_> yes thats next SolarisB1y
[06:59] <Erin> fontgorilla_, so put them in the .fonts folder and make them owned by your user:group it seems like
[06:59] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla_: you can make a ~./fonts and copy them there and then run that command
[06:59] <SolarisB1y> they will be found and available for you atleast
[07:00] <Erin> fontgorilla_, sudo chown -R user:group ~/.fonts ?
[07:00] <dr_willis>     .fonts  ;-)   note the    .
[07:00] <jerry_l> ..
[07:00] <SolarisB1y> args
[07:00] <jerry_l> BRB.
[07:00] <fontgorilla_> how i make them available to all users on this computer?
[07:00] <SolarisB1y> im having a bad typing day lols
[07:00] <Erin> /usr/share/fonts maybe ?
[07:00] <dr_willis> !fonts
[07:01] <cocomo> I changed the ubuntu themese a couple of times but now the window control (maximize, minimize(-), close(X)) have shifted to the right, they used to be on the left by default.
[07:01] <cocomo> how do i revert the controls to their default positions?
[07:02] <fontgorilla_> I've read that dr_willis. It's 10.04 LTS. I assume nothing has changed for 12.04 since you directed me there?
[07:02] <dr_willis> !controls
[07:03] <dr_willis> fontgorilla_: no idea... i use   .fonts in my home dir...;-)    i doubt if ithchanged
[07:03] <SolarisB1y> i use it as well with my 3 fonts for vim-powerline lol
[07:03] <cocomo> dr_willis: yes thats what i want them on the left side but i changed desktop theme and the suddenly are now appearing on the right.. i tried setting the default theme but still window's controlls are on the right side
[07:03] <cocomo> how do i get them back on the left where they were by default
[07:04] <fontgorilla_> is ~/.fonts accessible to programs? i.e. libreoffice will be able to see those fonts and use them?
[07:05] <alusion> I'm creating a backup and I want to have more information of my system what are some good commands or programs to see an overview of my files / directories and how much memory they take up ?
[07:05] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla_: if you startef the programs yes
[07:05] <fontgorilla_> interesting
[07:07] <Erin> alusion, df -h
[07:07] <fontgorilla_> thanks for your help Erin, SolarisB1y , dr_willis
[07:07] <fontgorilla_> thanks for the entertainment almoxarife
[07:07] <Erin> haha
[07:07] <SolarisB1y> fontgorilla_: np
[07:08] <Erin> I didn't help, I tried atleast
[07:08] <sets88> Who can help : "How can i get MAC address of  the server i just connected via pppoe?"
[07:08] <SolarisB1y> sets88: are you on that server?
[07:08] <Erin> sets88, sudo macchanger -s
[07:08] <fontgorilla_> i appreciate in any case erin
[07:09] <SolarisB1y> if so type ifconfig -a and look for the the pppoe interface
[07:09] <cocomo> How do i move the windows controll(max, min, close) to their default left position? Window's controll on my ubuntu are suddenly moved to the right http://postimage.org/image/yr8lxsigb/full/
[07:09] <Erin> sets88, sudo macchanger -s interface
[07:09] <fontgorilla_> cocomo you can do it...i did it deliberatly once
[07:09] <Erin> haha beat me again SolarisB1y I forgot ifconfig shows it ;-p
[07:09] <cocomo> how do i do it.. thats my question
[07:09] <SolarisB1y> Erin: ;>
[07:10] <Erin> I haven't been using linux alot recently. well I have but just for my web/file/music server
[07:10] <cocomo> fontgorilla_: plz help
[07:10] <Erin> gaming alot on my "gasp" pc
[07:10] <fontgorilla_> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/config-desktop/C/window-button-order.html cocomo
[07:10] <SolarisB1y> gasp?
[07:10] <Erin> yea windows :-P
[07:10] <SolarisB1y> ahh
[07:10] <fontgorilla_> cocomo: i haven't tried it in 12.04 but that is what i used in 10.04
[07:11] <Erin> I think in 5 years linux will be game ready ;-p
[07:11] <SolarisB1y> its game ready now - no one makes them
[07:11] <SolarisB1y> or atleast any good ones
[07:11] <cocomo> how did you deliberately change controlls position in 10.04
[07:11] <dr_willis> been playing 'rochard' all week on ubuntu
[07:11] <Erin> SolarisB1y, valve is helping pioneer the way
[07:11] <SolarisB1y> yea i know.. i happen to have a special access to that beta...
[07:11] <jerry_l> linux is game ready as long as you dont plan on playing halo on it.
[07:11] <Erin> when I say game ready I meant the big titles.
[07:12] <fontgorilla_> cocomo: by reading and following that tutorial. see if it works for you for 12.04 https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/config-desktop/C/window-button-order.html
[07:12] <cocomo> fontgorilla_: ty
[07:12] <dr_willis> ubuntu-tweak has tools to move the controls left and right also.
[07:12] <Erin> jerry_l, well, halo4 is on xbox360 only so, even on PC you can't play it ;-p
[07:12] <jerry_l> ...
[07:12] <sets88> SolarisB1y no im on a client
[07:12] <SolarisB1y> sets88: if you have the IP ping it and then type arp -an
[07:12] <jerry_l> wh not build a 360 emu?
[07:13] <Erin> who me? HAHAAHAHAH!
[07:13] <sets88> Erin not working shows mac:00:00:00:00:00:00
[07:13] <Erin> pigs will surely sprout wings and fly first.
[07:13] <jerry_l> i am reading the book on bash right now...
[07:13] <fontgorilla_> can you have gnome and KDE installed and use one or the other?
[07:13] <SolarisB1y> if the halo developers built a port of halo that ran on a linux system ofcourse with some h/w requirements,, then halo would be on linux,, and that would be the end of the story
[07:13] <Erin> sets88, try sudo ifconfig -a like SolarisB1y boy said then
[07:13] <sets88> SolarisB1y i cant have an ip ping PPPoE servers doesnt need an ip
[07:14] <fontgorilla_> cough
[07:14] <SolarisB1y> heh
[07:14] <Erin> sets88, a server with no ip ?
[07:14] <Erin> sounds fishy
[07:14] <sets88> Erin yes
[07:15] <Erin> sets88, thats not possible bud
[07:15] <dr_willis> heard of logging servers doing that... somehow
[07:15] <dr_willis> years ago.
[07:15] <SolarisB1y> amazing
[07:15] <Erin> dr_willis, with no IP ?
[07:15] <SolarisB1y> its like a black hole
[07:15] <sets88> Erin PPPoE works over ethernet no over IP
[07:15] <Erin> huh?
[07:15] <SolarisB1y> encapsulation in ethernet you mean?
[07:16] <SolarisB1y> of IP proto?
[07:16] <Erin> how is data transmitted then ?
[07:16] <fontgorilla_> erin brainwaves
[07:16] <Erin> im by no means a know it all, I know alot though never heard of this lol
[07:16] <dr_willis> Erin:  was in a linux journrl mag. 6+ yrs ago. ;-)
[07:16] <Erin> me and my puppy communicate through brain waves
[07:17] <SolarisB1y> Erin: its possible
[07:17] <Erin> all she ever says is 'feed me''play with me'
[07:17] <cocomo> fontgorilla_: ty, gconf-editor worked.. my controlls are now on the left.
[07:17] <dr_willis> a dedicated loging server.  somehow
[07:17] <fontgorilla_> oh my goodness you are beautiful people! im off to play in my font of youth
[07:17] <SolarisB1y> it means there is a direct connection between two devices
[07:17] <SolarisB1y> and the connection doesn't need to pass an IP stack
[07:17] <Name141> how would I install the AMD/ (ATi) driver for the 4670 ?
[07:17] <Erin> SolarisB1y, isn't data still in packets hough ?
[07:17] <fontgorilla_> yw cocomo
[07:17] <SolarisB1y> on a wire
[07:17] <SolarisB1y> there is data layers under IP
[07:17] <Erin> SolarisB1y, so like usb ?
[07:17] <sets88> SolarisB1y no i mean it is on the same level as an IP level
[07:17] <dr_willis> in pipes... with cats.
[07:17] <SolarisB1y> actually kind of
[07:18] <Erin> I don't like cats :-(
[07:18] <Erin> alllergies you see.
[07:18] <sets88> SolarisB1y same layer
[07:18] <SolarisB1y> cats are the best
[07:18] <SolarisB1y> ethernet!=IP layer
[07:18] <Erin> cats don't need people and they let you know it when they piss on your stuff
[07:18] <sets88> SolarisB1y PPPoE layer=IP layer
[07:18] <SolarisB1y> it's encapsulating PPP in ethernet
[07:19] <SolarisB1y> by means of encapsulation dude
[07:19] <SolarisB1y> ?? do you not get it?
[07:19] <Erin> encapsulating? I know what that means sort of.
[07:19] <Erin> like keeping in one place right ?
[07:19] <SolarisB1y> its two directly connected peices of equipment
[07:19] <SolarisB1y> after they finish the encapsulation ITS IP AGAIN
[07:19] <Erin> is a LAN encapsulated ?
[07:20] <SolarisB1y> like connecting two office networks and such
[07:20] <Erin> it uses ip's though
[07:20] <SolarisB1y> no
[07:20] <SolarisB1y> its not passing over the internet
[07:20] <sets88> SolarisB1y not PPP, PPPs are differ, only PPPoE, yes it encapsulating in ethernet
[07:20] <Erin> but it uses packets locally right ?
[07:20] <sets88> Erin yes
[07:21] <SolarisB1y> what does Erin?
[07:21] <Erin> a LAN
[07:21] <SolarisB1y> yes... they all do
[07:21] <SolarisB1y> frames and packets
[07:21] <Erin> wtf is a frame lol ;-p
[07:21] <SolarisB1y> what a packet is in
[07:21] <Erin> hahah
[07:21] <dr_willis> http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/3521481/Enhance-Security-with-a-Linux-Logging-Server.htm
[07:21] <dr_willis> stealth logging server
[07:22] <SolarisB1y> wow
[07:22] <javier_> hello, I am having a really hard time getting the alsa 1.0.25 installed on 12.04. can anyone help?
[07:22] <sets88> SolarisB1y so, any solution?
[07:23] <SolarisB1y> so your connectdd to a ppoed interface and you have a server on the other side you dont know ip of?
[07:23] <javier_> I have researched the net for 3 hours now and am not able to get xbmc to work,
[07:23] <SolarisB1y> nope no solution
[07:23] <SolarisB1y> run nmap over the ppoe or something
[07:23] <almoxarife> javier_: better to ask at #xbmc :)
[07:24] <javier_> but the inability to install the alsa is here right?
[07:24] <dr_willis> javier_: why do you need that alsa?
[07:24] <Erin> why cn't you install it ?
[07:24] <almoxarife> javier_: not really, they live and breath xbmc-sound issues
[07:24] <javier_> according to what I have read, I need it for ac3 and dts
[07:25] <javier_> it isn't included in 1.0.24
[07:25] <SolarisB1y> sets88: do you atleast know the subnet the server is on?
[07:25] <SolarisB1y> oh wait theres no ip... nm....
[07:26] <Erin> SolarisB1y, I think you are fighting a losing battle
[07:26] <SolarisB1y> wtf its serving with no ip who knows...
[07:26] <dr_willis> javier_:  no ppas to found of a newer alsa?
[07:26] <SolarisB1y> Erin: good call
[07:27] <Erin> javier_, you might have to build alsa from source, which could be a nightmare idk....
[07:27] <javier_> I have been trying to do that, and  I keep getting errors.
[07:27] <Erin> such as ?
[07:27] <javier_> javier@ubuntu:~$ apt-get source libasound2-plugins
[07:27] <javier_> Reading package lists... Done
[07:27] <javier_> Building dependency tree
[07:27] <javier_> Reading state information... Done
[07:27] <javier_> Picking 'alsa-plugins' as source package instead of 'libasound2-plugins'
[07:27] <javier_> E: Unable to find a source package for alsa-plugins
[07:27] <FloodBot1> javier_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:27] <Erin> noo
[07:27] <Erin> pastebin
[07:28] <dr_willis> javier_:  ppa would be best. agea ago i saw a 'compile alsa' script.. not needed it in ages
[07:28] <almoxarife> javier_: have you asked that question on #xbmc?
[07:28] <dr_willis> !info alsa
[07:28] <javier_> can you give me the command?
[07:29] <javier_> i have not been on xbmc. I just started here
[07:29] <SolarisB1y> wait i thought it was precise the bot did
[07:29] <almoxarife> javier_: its a channel, use '/j #xbmc' to join it
[07:31] <sets88> SolarisB1y there are some ways: sniffers and logs, but i dont like that ways
[07:31] <Name141> is there a way to get the 'classic' look in Ubuntu still ?
[07:31] <dr_willis> !nounity
[07:32] <Name141> is Natty the LTS?
[07:32] <dr_willis> the old gnome look feature is to be phased out.
[07:32] <dr_willis> eventually.
[07:32] <Name141> eh
[07:32] <SolarisB1y> sets88: its says arping can send a broadcast ping with -U.. not sure never tried..
[07:32] <dr_willis> !lts
[07:32] <SolarisB1y> broadcast arp ping . sets88
[07:33] <almoxarife> dr_willis: i dont understand why a feature that people actually like needs to be pulled
[07:33] <dr_willis> almoxarife: lack of manpower......
[07:33] <sets88> SolarisB1y arp ping work only with ip addresses
[07:33] <sets88> works*
[07:33] <Erin> sets88, have you googled this ?
[07:33] <izx> Is there any front tool available in ubuntu for vnc viewer ???
[07:33] <Erin> to find out how to do it
[07:34] <dr_willis> izx:  front tool?
[07:34] <sets88> Erin aha
[07:34] <Erin> sets88, just saying u might find more info
[07:34] <SolarisB1y> sets88: ok then im out of clues for ya,, call the admin and have him give it to ya ;)
[07:34] <sets88> Erin cant find anything, here is last resort :)
[07:34] <izx> dr_willis: Yes i mean GUI front end tool for vnc viewer
[07:34] <Erin> sets88, why do you need it anyway
[07:34] <lolek1> hello all, how can i setup two default gateways graphically  in network manager ?
[07:35] <almoxarife> !vnc
[07:35] <Erin> lolek1, you can't have 2 default gateway on one device...?
[07:35] <dr_willis> izx:  i belive ive seen some.. ages ago.. not really used them
[07:35] <lolek1> Erin: well.. i can
[07:35] <sets88> SolarisB1y what is the worst thing in this story: i am admin :(
[07:35] <Erin> hows that gonna work ?
[07:35] <lolek1> Erin: just exec twice: route add default gw with different addresses
[07:35] <almoxarife> vino is the server?
[07:35] <SolarisB1y> sets88: hahaha welcome to the club
[07:35] <lolek1> Erin: and it works as i need it
[07:36] <Erin> lolek1, yea no idea
[07:36] <lolek> Erin: hmmm
[07:37] <Erin> lolek, I was pretty sure you can only have 1 default gateway, hence the term 'default' lol
[07:37] <lolek> :)
[07:37] <lolek> Erin: yea, i was thinking the same way until i've checked that out :)
[07:37] <Erin> why use 2 gateways ?
[07:38] <lolek> Erin: well temporary problem with some routing so depneding on gw i have access to selected networks :/
[07:39] <Erin> I see
[07:41] <sudo-apt-get> how to cd to /root? I get access denied...
[07:42] <somsip> sudo-apt-get: sudo -i; cd /root;
[07:42] <heoyea> sudo cd /root ?
[07:42] <sudo-apt-get> ty somsip
[07:43] <somsip> sudo-apt-get: but remember - you are now working as root - be careful :)
[07:43] <sudo-apt-get> ok !!
[07:48] <Keu> I'm trying to enable RandRRotation in xorg.conf in LXDE but the change is not taking even after restarting lightdm or logging out. Is the right file still /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:51] <someprimetime> so i use pbcopy on os x, but when i ssh into my server, i want to be able to pbcopy the contents of files into my local clipboard.. any idea how to do so?
[07:53] <gogeta> bo
[07:54] <CyclicFlux> Whats happening fellow Ubuntu-enthusiasts!?
[07:54] <Erin> chillaxin
[07:56] <CyclicFlux> Erin, Thats the way to be!!!
[07:56] <CyclicFlux> I have a question I am having one heck of a time with.
[07:57] <CyclicFlux> I installed swift fox(the faster, and smoother riding Firefox counterpart for Linux), and I am unable to get flash to work
[07:58] <CyclicFlux> I have installed flash, and have had it successfully running on my system with both Chromium, Firefox(which is what I used prior to Swiftfox).  But it doesn't seem to like SwiftFox.
[07:59] <CyclicFlux> I have tried both package manager installation, and then re-installation, and then when that didn't work I tried the apt-get purge for all of the flash on the system.
[07:59] <heoyea> CyclicFlux: might have to manully add flash to swiftfox
[07:59] <CyclicFlux> Any thoughts?
[07:59] <CyclicFlux> heoyea, I am in the process of doing that now! :)
[08:00] <heoyea> CyclicFlux: thats how we use to fix firefox flash junk in the past =D
[08:00] <heoyea> yea just add the libflash.so file to the correct folder
[08:01] <CyclicFlux> heoyea: Semantically speaking everything is fine, I see on this setup that the firefox plugin location is /usr/lib/firefox/plugins, and upon installing swiftfox, I saw that the /usr/lib/firefox/plugins was then linked to /usr/lib/swiftfox/plugins, and I dbl-checked the link with 'll' from the shell.
[08:01] <heoyea> yea it might be symlinked
[08:01] <Jordan_U> CyclicFlux: If their webpage, http://getswiftfox.com/ , is any indication then swiftfox is *many* *many* versions behind Firefox.
[08:02] <CyclicFlux> heoyea, I got ya, it should work because Ubuntu has the /etc/update-alternatives present(I think that takes care of the majority of the prior flash squabbles on linux/ubuntu)
[08:03] <Jordan_U> CyclicFlux: Firefox has had *a lot* of performance improvements since 3.6.13, which will do a lot more than a few compiler flags.
[08:03] <CyclicFlux> Jordan_U, so your saying that it could be a software compatibility thing?  The plugins were compatible, maybe I should check the about:config, and see the plugin settings/etc...
[08:04] <Jordan_U> CyclicFlux: I'm saying that you shouldn't run such an old browser, which if it's really still at 3.6.13 has many known security vulnerabilities.
[08:04] <heoyea> is cool hes on linux not windows
[08:04] <almoxarife> http://getswiftfox.com/index.htm <-- i got 404 and certificate out of date :)
[08:04] <Erin> heoa_, LOL
[08:05] <Erin> heoyea, LOL.
[08:05] <heoyea> hehe
[08:05] <Erin> even linux can be insecure
[08:05] <heoyea> Erin: yea but still safer then most
[08:05] <Erin> safer than windows fo sur
[08:05] <tuxtoti> hello. i'm on 12.10. I see that gnome-terminal on this has a bug ->  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1079311
[08:05] <Jordan_U> CyclicFlux: Firefox is at version *17*.
[08:06] <tuxtoti> is there a way for me to downgrade the gnome-terminal alone to a previous version or something that was on 12.04 ?
[08:06] <heoyea> Firefox got new version every month dont worry about it
[08:06] <almoxarife> !terminator | tuxtoti , terminal on steroids
[08:07] <dr_willis> terminator uses gnome-terminal
[08:07] <heoyea> use guake
[08:07] <almoxarife> dr_willis: it does not, dont say that, you sure?
[08:08] <dr_willis> or at least it used to. it was a python front end ages ago
[08:08] <dr_willis> check its homepage perhaps
[08:08] <almoxarife> dr_willis: i may need the terminator-kde version
[08:09] <CyclicFlux> Jordan_U, Good eyes, I am glad you saw it, I am checking the website now.
[08:10] <almoxarife> dr_willis: you are correct sir, multiple gnome terminals, time to toss it here
[08:11] <CyclicFlux> Jordan_U, Your totally right, I was wondering why my google search window was not pulling up any issues past 2010-2011 with it, lol!!! I think I now know why my firefox was originally so slow.
[08:12] <dr_willis>  i recall it being a python skin/frontend over  gnome-terminal somehow. ;-)
[08:13] <dr_willis> almoxarife: its also using gtk2 it seems. ll keep using it however
[08:13] <almoxarife> dr_willis: there must be a equiv in kde, split screening is the part that works for me
[08:14] <zebro09> Has anyone here used Asterisk here? I want to install it for home use wondering what sort of learning curve I am looking at, if it is worth it
[08:15] <dr_willis> guake like terminator tweak.....   http://wenlong.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/gnome-terminator/
[08:15] <heoyea> guake with tmux > terminator
[08:16] <Kartagis> can I pass mkpasswd result to useradd?
[08:16] <dr_willis> i run tmuxin terminator
[08:16] <dr_willis> ;-)
[08:16] <heoyea> yay =D
[08:17] <dr_willis> Kartagis: with the right bash voodoo i ikagine so.
[08:18] <yhusha> doing a virtual box with ubuntu minimal cd and the whole operation stands still with a purple screen shortly after it gets the files archive download
[08:19] <Guest3883> Hello I am new here
[08:19] <dr_willis> howdy
[08:19] <yhusha> there is however some sort of command line at the bottom of the screen
[08:20] <yhusha> anybody have anything
[08:20] <yhusha> new here whats the issue
[08:20] <antz> when you do sudo apt-get install irssi  where is the directory for irssi?
[08:20] <heoyea> u just type irssi in the terminal
[08:20] <dr_willis> antz: it has files all over the place
[08:21] <olegb> antz: "which irssi" gives /usr/bin/irssi
[08:21] <antz> yeah but i want to put in the theme file
[08:21] <dr_willis> the binary you mean?
[08:21] <antz> and then i can do /SET theme theme_name
[08:21] <antz> i need to know where to put my theme file at
[08:21] <llutz_> antz: ~/.irssi
[08:21] <dr_willis> use your users home dir. irssi dir
[08:21] <dr_willis> not system widespread
[08:21] <heoyea> use weechat =D
[08:22] <dr_willis> i use weechat. ;-)
[08:22] <heoyea> hi5
[08:22] <antz> thank you
[08:29] <texta> Hey guys. Am I correct in assuming that gvfs-gdu-volume will only detect mounted storage in /media
[08:29] <texta> and not /mnt or otherwise?
[08:32] <RJ45-Q> I need to downgrade samba-common Ubuntu3.8 to samba-common Ubuntu3 in order to install Samba (Ubuntu 10.04), according to Synaptic it requires the removal of ubuntu-desktop, is that safe?
[08:32] <alusion> I am using byzanz-record and I want to use the --display=  feature to record from a certain display, how do I specify the window?
[08:33] <RJ45-Q> would it actually remove the desktop and leave me with a command-line?, or is the package name 'ubuntu-desktop' just mis-leading?
[08:33] <Erin> RJ45-Q, its just a meta package
[08:33] <Erin> is that the only thing it says its gonna remove ?
[08:34] <RJ45-Q> Erin: before I refreshed repos yes, not it wants to remove other stuff to, but it's safe to remove stuff.
[08:34] <RJ45-Q> what is a meta package?
[08:35] <Erin> RJ45-Q, im not entirely sure but thats what ive been told it is.
[08:35] <Erin> Ive had similar question before
[08:35] <Erin> !ubuntu-desktop
[08:35] <somsip> RJ45-Q: a package that just contains information relating to other packages. It contains no code as such
[08:35] <evilmoo> a meta package is one package that points to one or more other "real" packages
[08:35] <RJ45-Q> look, I REALLY can't afford my whole OS to need a complete re-install!, are you sure?
[08:35] <Erin> yea you can remove it
[08:35] <Erin> just put it bk when it done I guess
[08:36] <RJ45-Q> m'kay, I hope ur right.
[08:36] <RJ45-Q> here goes :-/
[08:36] <Erin> i know xubuntu-desktop says it will only remove that 1 pckage
[08:36] <Erin> 44kb so it must be safe
[08:36] <Lionthinker> Question: Lightread wont login, ask Ubuntu, launchpad has no answer. can you guys help?
[08:37] <RJ45-Q> if I don't respond to Erin here within 10 minutes, that means everything f***ed up and I'm very pissed.
[08:37] <Erin> lol
[08:42] <CyclicFlux> Jordan_U, Thanks for your interjection, I uninstalled swiftfox(found it strange that I had to either install it from source, or that it was not included in the default Ubuntu sources).  But after opening my original firefox, and then tweaking, and checking it I saw that it was progressively slower due to the overly grown SQLite database it keeps for anti-fishing.  Looking back its got 1+years of backups its using when I loaded my full file from FEBE(
[08:42] <CyclicFlux> firefox environment backup extension), which I use to handle my browser-related stuff/profiles
[08:42] <RJ45-Q> I just removed the 2.8, so-far so good but... I NEED HELP!...
[08:42] <RJ45-Q> samba:
[08:42] <RJ45-Q>   Depends: libwbclient0 (=2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3) but 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3.8 is to be installed
[08:42] <RJ45-Q> 3.8*
[08:43] <RJ45-Q> what do I do?
[08:44] <RJ45-Q> I need to know what to do!
[08:44] <RJ45-Q> I'm scared
[08:44] <RJ45-Q> and clueless
[08:44] <RJ45-Q> X.X
[08:44] <Erin> RJ45-Q,  idk sudo apt-get -f install
[08:44] <RJ45-Q> force install?
[08:45] <Erin> ya try it
[08:45] <yhusha> how to add the kernel driver for my network card to a minimal iso before install
[08:45] <yhusha> ANY
[08:45] <skimini> having trouble with booting from a liveUSB (64bit) on a new Samsung laptop with Win8 pre installed. Have tried various adjustments in BIOS to no avail. Is it necessary to turn Secure Boot off, or doesn't that matter. Any other suggestions please?
[08:45] <RJ45-Q> no way man!, I tried that with a pesky Java package and I had-to re-install the whole OS!
[08:46] <Erin> RJ45-Q, sounds like you did a not needed reinstall then
[08:46] <CrowX-> hi
[08:46] <RJ45-Q> ???
[08:46] <CrowX-> I created an ext4 partition using fdisk on the ubuntu live cd, installed ext4 on it with mkfs.ext4 and then put some files on it.
[08:46] <CrowX-> I unmounted the partition and rebooted.
[08:47] <skimini> ...Does the USB need to be selected as first in boot order? ...do I need to use the Ubuntu-Secure-Remix iso ?
[08:47] <CrowX-> Now when I boot through the ubuntu live cd and try to mount the partition without file system arguments, it says "you must specify file system"
[08:48] <CrowX-> when I do specify file system, it says it can't find ext4 on the partition
[08:48] <CrowX-> here's my dmesg output for that specific command
[08:48] <CrowX-> [  234.377948] EXT4-fs (sda3): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem
[08:48] <Erin> CrowX-, sudo mount /blah/blah -t ext4 ?
[08:48] <CrowX-> what could be the reason?
[08:48] <crimsonmane> CrowX-: unpartitioned?
[08:49] <Erin> CrowX-, pastebin sudo parted -l ?
[08:49] <almoxarife> CrowX-: unformatted ?
[08:49] <CrowX-> crimsonmane: what do you mean? I explained above how I partitioned it and installed the file system
[08:49] <almoxarife> CrowX-: installed system on sda3?
[08:50] <CrowX-> almoxarife: I explained above everything I did
[08:50] <CrowX-> read several lines above please
[08:50] <Erin> CrowX-, pastebin sudo parted -l please
[08:50] <CrowX-> Erin: sec I'll pastebin you the output
[08:50] <Erin> k
 Now when I boot through the ubuntu live cd and try to mount the partition without file system arguments, it says "you must specify file system"
[08:50] <almoxarife> CrowX-: great, and that error explains you not having a formatted sda3 to ext4, :)
[08:50] <CrowX-> almoxarife: I created an ext4 partition using fdisk on the ubuntu live cd,  installed ext4 on it with mkfs.ext4 and then put some files on  it.
[08:50] <skimini> UEFI problems ...help?
[08:50] <CrowX-> that's my first line
[08:51] <CrowX-> I was able to mount and put those files and everything worked well
[08:51] <CrowX-> but after i unmounted and rebooted, it can't remount the partition
[08:51] <Erin> CrowX-, yea please pastebin parted so I can see whats up
[08:51] <CrowX-> Erin: here's my output of parted -l: http://pastebin.com/hRjNGhne
[08:52] <yhusha> anybody have a command to get a gui for mini install from console
[08:52] <Erin> CrowX-, thats not all of it
[08:52] <Erin> and it doesn't show an ext4 partition
[08:52] <CrowX-> Erin: /dev/sda3 is the ext4 partition
[08:52] <almoxarife> CrowX-: seems you dont have a formatted sda3 to ext4
[08:53] <Erin> CrowX-, thats not the whole output
[08:53] <CrowX-> number 3 on the list
[08:53] <Erin> please paste it all ;-p
[08:53] <CrowX-> almoxarife: if I didn't have it formated to ext4, how was I able to mount it before rebooting?
[08:53] <CrowX-> sec
[08:53] <RJ45-Q> I did a 'force downgrade' in Synaptic, and now suddenly everything is somehow happy clappy. :-/ not sure I won the battle or lost it...
[08:54] <CrowX-> Erin: here's the whole output: http://pastebin.com/pFywWMHf
[08:54] <RJ45-Q> libwbcliand   force downgrad*
[08:54] <RJ45-Q> libwbclient*
[08:55] <Erin> CrowX-, id say you need to format it again
[08:55] <CrowX-> Erin: that's what I feared :(
[08:55] <CrowX-> thanks anyway
[08:55] <Erin> CrowX-, use parted
[08:55] <CrowX-> Erin: why parted and not fdisk?
[08:55] <Erin> CrowX-, fdisk is ancient
[08:55] <CrowX-> Erin: practical reasons?
[08:55] <crimsonmane> because you're doing it wrong, that's the real reason
[08:55] <Erin> basically.
[08:55] <CrowX-> crimsonmane: what's the right way?
[08:56] <yhusha> none of the commands like sudo or aptitude or anything like that work in the shell console of ubuntu minimal install
[08:56] <crimsonmane> yhusha: they're not shell commands, they are programs you have to install
[08:56] <CrowX-> yhusha: you can install aptitude manually using "apt-get install aptitude"
[08:56] <crimsonmane> CrowX-: i dont use fdisk, but it's obvious you did something wrong.
[08:56] <RJ45-Q> after all thise changes, now although I just installed Samba, I for some strange reason can't right-click share in Nautilus anymore, the feature's gone!, any suggestions?
[08:56] <yhusha> ok
[08:56] <RJ45-Q> these*
[08:57] <Erin> RJ45-Q, use /etc/samba/smb.conf to make your shares
[08:57] <shwouchk> hello
[08:57] <RJ45-Q> I REALLY like the option though
[08:57] <CrowX-> ok thanks guys, I'll reformat and redownload a bunch of files :)
[08:57] <RJ45-Q> how do I put it back?
[08:57] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: something not being right does not make the dude wrong
[08:57] <Erin> CrowX-, no backups lol ?
[08:57] <CrowX-> Erin: those were the backups :D
[08:58] <yhusha> it says apt-get not found
[08:58] <almoxarife> oh dear,
[08:58] <Erin> CrowX-, learn to use parted its much better
[08:58] <RJ45-Q> I reckon I have-to re-install 'nautilus-share'
[08:58] <CrowX-> Erin: how is it better? I don't mind trying new things, but I'd like to know the difference first
[08:58] <RJ45-Q> I'll try that.
[08:58] <Erin> CrowX-, works with GPT for one thing
[08:59] <shwouchk> I disabled search results in 'privacy' and uninstalled the shopping-lens, yet I still get commercial suggestions at the bottom of the 'all programs' list. What do I need to do to completely get rid of this/
[08:59] <llutz_> CrowX-: parted has advantages when i comes to gpt-drives. for old msdos-patitiontables fdisk still works fine
[09:00] <heoyea> shwouchk: delete unity
[09:01] <Erin> heoyea, bizinga
[09:01] <izx> What does this mean?? E: Package 'xvncviewer' has no installation candidate
[09:01] <heoyea> izx: wrong name?
[09:01] <Erin> izx, you got the name of the package wrong
[09:01] <almoxarife> shwouchk: did you also un-install the 'ubuntu software center'?
[09:01] <shwouchk> almoxarife, no
[09:02] <RJ45-Q> 'nautilus-share' is included with the OS from first install, so I should not have-to re-download it from pkgs.org and re-install it, but Ubuntu is made by retards 25% of the time, so I'm gonna have-to I guess.
[09:02] <Erin> RJ45-Q, WOW son.
[09:02] <shwouchk> heoyea, great suggestion. I'm glad #ubuntu has people such as yourself in the community
[09:02] <almoxarife> shwouchk: give it a try, i assume you dont want pay-ware
[09:02] <Erin> RJ45-Q, tried using apt-get and calming your attitude down ?
[09:02] <heoyea> shwouchk: no probs
[09:02] <shwouchk> almoxarife, don't want commercials of any kind
[09:03] <RJ45-Q> Erin: I should not have-to apt-get either!, for Samba!
[09:03] <Erin> RJ45-Q, thats like saying you shouldn't haveto breathe
[09:03] <RJ45-Q> ...at-least it's not Apple.
[09:03] <Erin> RJ45-Q, yea its free try to remember that.
[09:03] <almoxarife> shwouchk: i can imagine
[09:03] <RJ45-Q> or at-least it's not Windows
[09:04] <shwouchk> almoxarife, there is no package called ubuntu-software-center... do you know how it is actually called?
[09:04] <RJ45-Q> I'd rather take an Elephant trunk up the ass than but stuck with Apple or Microsoft the rest of my like :P
[09:04] <RJ45-Q> be*
[09:04] <Erin> RJ45-Q, you would like that eh?
[09:04] <almoxarife> shwouchk: did you look via synaptic?
[09:04] <RJ45-Q> XD
[09:04] <heoyea> shwouchk: think is just called software-center
[09:04] <almoxarife> shwouchk: what heoyea said
[09:05] <shwouchk> I use aptitude usually
[09:05] <almoxarife> shwouchk: i use zypper usually
[09:05] <pbt> !emacs
[09:06] <pbt> !code
[09:06] <Erin> I use eclipes when the sun is too bright
[09:06] <RJ45-Q> I re-installed 'nautilus-share' even though I shouldn't of had-to, not it's still not there.
[09:07] <Erin> RJ45-Q, try restarting the WM
[09:07] <RJ45-Q> I'm gonna reboot now, I just hope I can log back in afterwards after all those changes, wish me luck!!!
[09:07] <Erin> RJ45-Q, no need to reboot
[09:07] <Erin> RJ45-Q, sudo service lightdm restart
[09:07] <RJ45-Q> Erin: it needs a fresh start anyway.
[09:07] <RJ45-Q> ;)
[09:07] <Erin> did you update kernel ?
[09:08] <Erin> thats only reason to reboot
[09:08] <RJ45-Q> I don't think so, why?
[09:08] <RJ45-Q> lol
[09:08] <almoxarife> Erin: he wants to reboot!
[09:08] <Erin> so then you don't need to reboot
[09:08] <Erin> I try to teach people this isn't windows
[09:08] <Erin> every right mouse click doesn't require a reboot lol
[09:08] <alusion> Erin, what command can I issue to find out more about a process?
[09:08] <RJ45-Q> ...and I was all like, "screw you muther ******, I'ma gon' reboot man!
[09:09] <RJ45-Q> "*
[09:09] <Erin> alusion, like what exactly ?
[09:09]  * RJ45-Q reboots
[09:09] <alusion> Erin: I issue pgrep, and wanna find out more about a process id
[09:09] <alusion> #
[09:09] <alusion> ykno? lol I wanna know what is running on my system
[09:10] <Erin> alusion, ps -ef
[09:10] <almoxarife> RJ45-Q: there is a practical reason for a reboot, its a guarantee that the sys will restart next time, restarting a service only tells you that the service runs post what ever you did, its not a server working moon shots or keeping us safe, reboot brother!
[09:10] <Erin> alusion, or install htop
[09:10] <alusion> ah yeah I use htop. Thanks, hey also -- how do I check my zeitgeist logs if ya know
[09:10] <llutz_> almoxarife: ps -fp <pid from pgrep>
[09:10] <llutz_> alusion: ^^ sry almoxarife
[09:10] <Erin> alusion, idk what a zeitgeist is
[09:11] <RJ45-Q> it worked! :D
[09:11] <almoxarife> llutz_: no idea
[09:11] <RJ45-Q> ...finally
[09:11] <texta> Hey guys, my mounted disks aren't showing up in nautilus on the left
[09:11] <texta> any idea how I can get them up there? They are mounted via fstab
[09:12] <Erin> RJ45-Q, welcome back big scaredy cat
[09:12] <heoyea> zeigesit is a logger, think of it as recent documents on steriods
[09:12] <almoxarife> texta: sure they are mounted?
[09:12] <texta> almoxarife:  I've been using them all day :[p
[09:12] <texta> :P*
[09:12] <alusion> The man has arrived.
[09:12] <almoxarife> texta: what changes in nautilus?
[09:13] <Erin> I was wondering where parsnip was
[09:13] <Erin> he is always in here
[09:13] <texta> What changes?
[09:13] <RJ45-Q> the one thin g I hate about Linux is all the bullshit yer have-to go through to install one f****** program or get a service to work... not like that with Windows, I hate Windows so bloody much, but Linux has a lot of 'deal breaking' crap.
[09:13] <RJ45-Q> thing*
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Erin: howdy
[09:13] <texta> The only storage devices that appear in nautilus (as drives) are two disks I _haven't_ got in fstab
[09:13] <Erin> RJ45-Q, usually its sudo apt-get install 'app' alot easier than windows
[09:13] <heoyea> RJ45-Q: dont update =D
[09:13] <texta> that are NTFS formatted
[09:13] <RJ45-Q> Erin: what if you have no Internet connection?, screwed much?
[09:14] <almoxarife> RJ45-Q: believe it or not this channel has to stay kiddie friendly, so be nice
[09:14] <Erin> RJ45-Q, no? if you have the .deb file for the app
[09:14] <Erin> no need interwebz
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: with windows you need to know the site for the app you want (not always obvious), in Ubuntu you can just search software centre
[09:14] <Erin> RJ45-Q, you bash linux alot yet you use it.
[09:15] <Erin> RJ45-Q, I think it stems from you being a 'noob' no offense ;-P
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: you need web access to install apps in Windows too.
[09:15] <RJ45-Q> Erin: I no, that's how I install y programs usually. '1 .deb to manually go, about 103 more to go, for one program :-/'
[09:15] <RJ45-Q> know*
[09:16] <Erin> RJ45-Q, sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[09:16] <Erin> done
[09:16] <Erin> O_o
[09:16] <Erin> o_O
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: with Windows, use a web connection and get everything setup then use it. Simple
[09:16] <ace_leo> hello anyone there? Noob here
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> ace_leo: howdy
[09:16] <almoxarife> RJ45-Q: perhaps what you need is a really configurable desktop, like KDE
[09:17] <llutz_> Erin: "done"  if you got all the depending .debs too
[09:17] <Erin> llutz, like a boss!
[09:17] <RJ45-Q> Erin: say ur only access to thi Internet is via a Library computer running Windows, and ya gotta get some apps for ur Ubuntu at home.. welcome to hell.
[09:17] <ace_leo> hey ActionParsnip: fine how are you?
[09:17] <Erin> RJ45-Q, well id say get internet acess at home lol.
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> ace_leo: working hard and hardly working
[09:17] <RJ45-Q> Erin: not so easy when you really poor.
[09:18] <ace_leo> lol nice
[09:18] <Erin> I am really poor
[09:18] <RJ45-Q> Erin: I had this problem
[09:18] <Erin> in the US you can get broadband internet almost free if you meet income guidelines
[09:18] <Erin> idk what country you are in tho
[09:18] <RJ45-Q> Erin: I live in UK
[09:18] <llutz_> RJ45-Q: there is software creating list of packages to download in that case, but you're true, linux without internet is no fun (like all other OSes too)
[09:18] <ace_leo> ActionParsnip: Trying to get myself accustomed to this ubuntu
[09:18] <Erin> might have similar program
[09:18] <ace_leo> ActionParsnip: recent convert from windows :)
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> ace_leo: you will as you use the OS
[09:19] <Erin> any computer without internet is no fun
[09:19] <Erin> its like being on a desert island alone
[09:19] <Erin> only coconuts to keep you company.
[09:19] <ace_leo> Erin: been there :)
[09:19] <Vista> anyone use powernap, does it actually work?
[09:19] <almoxarife> RJ45-Q: you at the library on a win?
[09:20] <Erin> RJ45-Q, bring your desktop pc to the library and hook it up to one of their monitors ;-p
[09:20] <RJ45-Q> Windows is a lot easyer with no Internet, 'cos to install an average program, you just need ONE .EXE, on Ubuntu you've got a crap loada dependency .DEBS.
[09:20] <ace_leo> ActionParsnip: any tips for a newbie? so far this ubuntu is giving me headaches lol
[09:20] <almoxarife> Vista: powernaps always worked for me, even the 10min ones
[09:20] <Erin> RJ45-Q, you got a point
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: try install Gimp in Windows, its not one EXE
[09:20] <RJ45-Q> almoxarife: thankfully not at the moment!
[09:20] <Erin> well night all me and the puppy gonna go cuddle in bed ;-)
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> ace_leo: just use the OS, get used to it
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: each app having its own install stuff is also why WIndows wastes resources
[09:21] <almoxarife> RJ45-Q: so why are you using a linux system if it sux so much? i missed something
[09:21] <Erin> almoxarife, u missed the part where he said ubuntu was made by retards
[09:21] <Erin> LOL
[09:21] <RJ45-Q> I just want some sort of Ubuntu-like alternative, that installs programs in a very similar way to Windows, and no, not Wine, it sucks ball, also no ethics.
[09:22] <RJ45-Q> sucks balls*
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: in Linux, libraries already in RAM are not loaded over and over, its a waste. Many apps can use a single lib from the HDD and in RAM, so it is more efficient in that way, also upgrades to the single lib upgrade ALL apps. Windows doesn't have this so upgrades use more data and are slower
[09:22] <almoxarife> Erin: that was not nice
[09:22] <gordonjcp> windows is really hard to install things in
[09:22] <iceroot> RJ45-Q: if you want an installer like on windows and not like apt-get you dont have a clue what you are talking about
[09:22] <almoxarife> i hate ubuntu, let me in
[09:22] <Erin> almoxarife, yea yet he uses it
[09:22] <RJ45-Q> I said a small percentage of Ubuntu is made by 'tards, not all of it.
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: I can punch holes in both OSes, in short, every OS sucks
[09:23] <iceroot> RJ45-Q: and stop your stupud discussion here, if you have a support question feel free to ask real questions, everything else goes to #ubuntu-offtopic or /dev/null
[09:23] <ace_leo> I guess the whole 'Linux for Human Beings' is out of the window :)
[09:23] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: indeed
[09:23] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: RT-11 doesn't
[09:23] <rudivs> is it a good idea to disable all ppa's before upgrading to 12.10?
[09:23] <RJ45-Q> ActionParsnip: true
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> rudivs: yes
[09:23] <iceroot> rudivs: its done automaticly by the upgrade-tool
[09:23] <gordonjcp> rudivs: yes, very much so
[09:24] <rudivs> thanks all
[09:24] <RJ45-Q> I am a 'Install manually from .debs' war veteran!, how?, 'cos I've done VLC like that on multiple occasions   X.X
[09:25] <bazhang_> RJ45-Q, that enough.
[09:25] <iceroot> RJ45-Q: its stupid to install debs manually
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: vlc is in the repos, so why make work for yourself?
[09:25] <iceroot> RJ45-Q: no dependencies will be fit
[09:25] <iceroot> RJ45-Q: sudo apt-get install vlc
[09:26] <Erin> RJ45-Q, are you a troll?
[09:26] <RJ45-Q> no internet onnection...
[09:26] <Erin> if you are you got me I admit.
[09:26] <RJ45-Q> connection*
[09:26] <iceroot> !offline | RJ45-Q
[09:26] <RJ45-Q> Erin: no
[09:27] <RJ45-Q> look, I have a different problem now, please may we drop this?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: then you will need the debs and all it's deps. Ubuntu comes with a media player you can use already
[09:27] <Erin> oh well took the dog out to the bathroom now its bed time. Night all!
[09:27] <antz> anyone have any ideas why 12.04 LTS wireless connection isnt stable (sometimes it just disconnects for no reason)
[09:27] <RJ45-Q> what's wrong with this share?:
[09:27] <RJ45-Q> 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. The connection was refused. Maybe smbd is not running.
[09:27] <RJ45-Q> what happened?
[09:27] <Erin> RJ45-Q, is smbd running ?
[09:27] <heoyea> just use Windows package manager, cinst 7zip vlc ..etc
[09:28] <RJ45-Q> Erin: should be
[09:28] <Erin> RJ45-Q, ps -ef | grep smbd
[09:28] <Erin> RJ45-Q, sudo service smbd start or do restart
[09:28] <Erin> good luck and learn how to use samba.conf if you want to be a samba pro
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> or:  service smbd status
[09:28] <RJ45-Q>       2017  1997  0 09:28 pts/1    00:00:00 grep --color=auto smbd
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Erin: smb.conf ;)
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: then its not running
[09:29] <Erin> ActionParsnip, ahh yea its late here ;-P
[09:29] <Erin> was thinking /etc/samba/smb.conf turned in to samba.conf
[09:29] <RJ45-Q> shouldn't is be running from reboot?
[09:29] <RJ45-Q> why it not auto-run?
[09:29] <Erin> RJ45-Q, mine has to be restarted once after boot for no apparent reason
[09:29] <Erin> or it doesn't work
[09:29] <Erin> its like it gets started too early before network is up
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: can you start it manually?
[09:30] <Erin> ok my wife is pissed
[09:30] <Erin> afk
[09:30] <RJ45-Q> damnit such a deal-breaker!
[09:30] <RJ45-Q> ...what's the damn command?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: sudo service smbd start
[09:30] <Vista> almoxarife: I was trying powernap last night but it didn't seem to do anything, I retsarted it and could see it running but no logs or suspend attempt, do I need to use the stages 2 bit?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: if it fails to start, thats why it dodn't start at boot
[09:30] <Vista> my box suspends fine
[09:31] <RJ45-Q> smbd start/running, process 2031
[09:31] <RJ45-Q> good?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: by default the service will start at boot, but if there are issues, or you killed the PID, it will be stopped
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: then its running now
[09:31] <RJ45-Q> ActionParsnip: what issues could there be?
[09:31] <llutz_> RJ45-Q: check logs /var/log/*
[09:31] <RJ45-Q> I can't read logs!
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: millions, you should check logs. Can you connect ok now?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: sure you can, you can read this, you can read logs
[09:32] <llutz_> RJ45-Q: simple thing: you run services, you have to read logs
[09:32] <RJ45-Q> ActionParsnip: not sure, I can now create new shares :)
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: sweet
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: you also just learned how to start services :)
[09:33] <almoxarife> Vista: sorry, i dont know a thing about 'powernap'
[09:33] <RJ45-Q> ActionParsnip: I don't wanna learn!, I wanna be stupid and just enjoy the OS!
[09:33] <RJ45-Q> ...you know, like a USER!
[09:34] <RJ45-Q> what name is the log?
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: its useful to learn, you'll get more from your OS
[09:34] <RJ45-Q> ???
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: if you can do stuff like that in Ubuntu, you'll have a smoother ride. Like those Windows users who don't defrag or do system housecleaning
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: same bag
[09:35] <RJ45-Q> ???
[09:36] <RJ45-Q> there are so many logs, what name?
[09:36] <almoxarife> RJ45-Q: check this out, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7591469&postcount=19 , make the fix suggested, restart the service
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: I can't intelligently reply without you typing words. How do you want me to reply '???'. Thinnk about it
[09:36] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: !!!
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: *^*&^&*^*&^&*^*^  please reply
[09:36] <gundy> Is there a better place to ask about ubuntu on AWS?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: :/var/log/samba holds the logs
[09:37] <RJ45-Q> what is the log name?
[09:37] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: the answer is, as always, "42"
[09:38] <RJ45-Q> thx
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: log.hostname of system. Why not have a look, explore your OS a bit
[09:39] <almoxarife> i forget, why do people insist on using 'samba'?
[09:39] <RJ45-Q> log.127.0.0.1 appears to be a blank empty file.
[09:39] <Guest83543> tz
[09:39] <Guest83543> jpo
[09:39] <RJ45-Q> nothing in there
[09:39] <Guest83543> sudo chmod ugo-rwx /
[09:39] <gustav__> almoxarife: Is there an alternative if you want to be compatible to unmodified Windows clients?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> !danger
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> !ops | Guest83543
[09:40] <almoxarife> gustav__: ssh(sftp/fish) ?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: its quick and dirty
[09:40] <whoami> 2 guys :D
[09:40] <gustav__> almoxarife: Can't start and run applications from/on it.
[09:41] <elky> -ETOMANYGUESTS
[09:41] <elky> sorry took so long
[09:42] <almoxarife> gustav__: it?
[09:42] <gustav__> almoxarife: The server host.
[09:42] <almoxarife> elky: thnkssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[09:42] <RJ45-Q> has anyone here ever tried DLNA program 'Rygel' and found it does not work, then looked online for a solution, but found nothing?, well guess what guys!, I figured out a fix all by myself!: change the 'port number' to '1900'... YOU ARE WELCOME!
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: you'll probably find it's ok after a reboot
[09:43] <RJ45-Q> ActionParsnip: the problem occured after a reboot.
[09:43] <erkon> hello all
[09:43] <RJ45-Q> I have no account on forums, somebody please update them with the fix for Rygel I just mentioned.
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: could add the command in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' and it will get started up at boot
[09:44] <erkon> I want to report that the older ubuntu netinstalls do not work
[09:44] <erkon> PLEASE fix them
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: dude I've submitted buckets of fixes, as have others. Nobody else is shouting "you're welcome"
[09:44] <erkon> anna-install package can not find package list file
[09:44] <RJ45-Q> ActionParsnip: should not need to be don X.X , damn it Ubuntu devs! (divs*)
[09:45] <erkon> anna-install can not find mirror package
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: have you tried reinstalling the samba package. It should ass the startup commands
[09:45] <erkon> is there anyone from ubuntu stadd here?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: you really need to get over yourself
[09:45] <erkon> *staff
[09:45] <ikonia> RJ45-Q: I'm getting pretty board with your complaining
[09:45] <ikonia> RJ45-Q: stop it - people are trying to help, adjust your attitude please, this will not continue
[09:46] <erkon> netinstall for older realeases do not work
[09:46] <ikonia> erkon: no, as the repos will have been moved to the oldrepo url
[09:46] <RJ45-Q> X.X, I'm outta here, scru you all and thank you so much for helping! (those of you who helped)
[09:46] <erkon> they are not moved
[09:46] <ikonia> erkon: which release ?
[09:46] <erkon> ikonia
[09:47] <erkon> explain please what you said
[09:47] <erkon> 12.04
[09:47] <ikonia> erkon: thats not an old release then
[09:47] <erkon> works 10.04 does not work
[09:47] <ikonia> that's current
[09:47] <ikonia> could you please define "doesn't work"
[09:47] <erkon> 12.04 work, but 10.04 does not wrok
[09:47] <erkon> 8.04 does not work
[09:47] <erkon> either
[09:47] <VNLover> shjt i have a problem with conpiz
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> erkon: 10.04 desktop has about 6 months support left, why bother with it
[09:48] <erkon> I have reported this 1 week ago
[09:48] <ikonia> VNLover: no need for the language
[09:48] <ikonia> erkon: please define not work
[09:48] <ikonia> erkon: 8.04 HAS been moved to the oldrepo's archive
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> VNLover: what is the issue?
[09:48] <erkon> installer can not download installed components
[09:48] <erkon> in debug logs I see
[09:48] <erkon> anna-install : can not find package list file
[09:49] <erkon> is 10.04 have been there too?
[09:49] <erkon> if this is so
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> erkon: try: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[09:49] <erkon> set up a virtula machine and try to install with mini cd
[09:49] <erkon> please fix this
[09:49] <ikonia> erkon: no, 10.04 should still be on main
[09:50] <erkon> or delete all mini cds from the mini cd install page
[09:50] <ikonia> erkon: YOU fix it
[09:50] <ikonia> erkon: or don't use old releases that are dead
[09:50] <almoxarife> erkon: which mirror did you use?
[09:50] <heoyea> erkon: think is called end of life Repositories
[09:51] <erkon> just set up a virtual machine and dowload minicd 10.04 32 bit , and try to download the install components
[09:51] <erkon> you will see that I'm right
[09:51] <almoxarife> erkon: which mirror did you use?
[09:51] <erkon> us mirror
[09:51] <almoxarife> erkon: try the 'de' mirror
[09:52] <erkon> you try it man
[09:52] <erkon> I 'm trying this for a week
[09:52] <almoxarife> erkon: it was shown to work, thnks
[09:52] <erkon> what was shown?
[09:53] <almoxarife> erkon: the mirror at 'de' was installing 10.04
[09:53] <erkon> when?
[09:54] <almoxarife> erkon: less than a week back
[09:54] <erkon> ok
[09:54] <erkon> I'll check it atm
[09:54] <almoxarife> erkon: ok
[09:56] <master> how do i block any gtk3 apps from installing? Lick pinning libgtk3 to nothing
[09:57] <gordonjcp> master: that seems like an odd thing to do
[09:57] <master> gordonjcp, still..
[09:58] <gordonjcp> master: you could try only installing old software
[09:58] <gordonjcp> master: most things that use gtk will be ported to gtk3 sooner or later
[09:58] <master> well, sometimes it is in the dependencies. I want to block any app from installing that has dependencies on gtk3
[09:59] <gordonjcp> why?
[09:59] <master> simple as that
[09:59] <master> gordonjcp, ugly. and does not look integrated in my desktop
[09:59] <master> * -d
[09:59] <gordonjcp> master: well, don't install gtk apps then
[10:00] <almoxarife> master: i know, delete the lib, create a link to gtk2 with the same name, wont keep it from installing but when it crashes you know you got a gtk3 app from running
[10:00] <master> there are plenty of gtk2 apps that i like
[10:00] <master> almoxarife, i rather use apt to block the apps
[10:00] <nowayride> So /etc/xorg.conf is depreciated right? Where should we be saving custom modelines?
[10:01] <almoxarife> master: what magic you going to apt with to keep gkt3 apps from installing, short of not installing the app?
[10:01] <erkon> Netinstall installer is not dowloading anything from de mirror
[10:02] <master> almoxarife, exactly i do not want any random metapackage to install gtk3 by accident.
[10:02] <almoxarife> erkon: unfortunate, the nick who brought it up was all excited about finding the one mirror that worked, perhaps it was not 'de'
[10:03] <almoxarife> master: great, good luck
[10:03] <erkon> you said that de works
[10:03] <almoxarife> erkon: sue me!
[10:03] <erkon> the other guy above is giving me a script with apt-get
[10:04] <master> almoxarife, How do i blacklist any package?
[10:04] <erkon> apt-get is not installed in netinstall
[10:04] <erkon> so if you please do not know , do not answer
[10:04] <erkon> so I'm very disappoined that with ubuntu mess
[10:05] <master> apt-get is in the netboot iso
[10:05] <texta> Ugh
[10:05] <texta> so my mount points need to be in /media rather than /mnt
[10:05] <texta> to make them appear in the nautilus side-pane :\
[10:05] <almoxarife> erkon: gosh, you sound disappointed, i am feeling bad for adding to your calamity
[10:06] <master> texta, you could symlink /mnt to /media afaik
[10:06] <dr_willis> or visa versa. ;-)
[10:06] <texta> Probably a better idea, I have a folder called /net too
[10:06] <texta> which has all my mounted nfs shares :p
[10:06] <erkon> apt-get not found
[10:07] <erkon> check it fist
[10:07] <erkon> apt-get is not in netboot
[10:07] <dr_willis> apt-get install apt-get   :-P
[10:07] <erkon> sure
[10:07] <erkon> LOL
[10:07] <erkon> can you please tell ubuntu to delete old miniCD they are useless
[10:07] <dr_willis> never ysed the netboot here.
[10:08] <almoxarife> erkon: i will add it to my xmas list
[10:08] <master> erkon, you must have a corrupted iso. both apt-get and aptitude is on the netboot iso
[10:08] <erkon> well it is not
[10:08] <almoxarife> dr_willis: i used it, works, but i was not trying to install noahs version of ubuntu
[10:08] <master> download a working iso
[10:08] <erkon> md5sum is correct
[10:09] <dr_willis> nooahbuntu
[10:09] <erkon> the big question is why ubuntu keeps not working isos?
[10:09] <master> erkon, no idea
[10:10] <dr_willis> historical  reasons
[10:10] <erkon> is there anyone from ubuntu in irc ?
[10:10] <almoxarife> dr_willis: version -2bc the 'pluvial' edition
[10:10] <texta> master, Either I have to reboot
[10:10] <texta> or it isn't working :c
[10:10] <dr_willis> angry amoeba
[10:11] <almoxarife> dr_willis: :)
[10:12] <dr_willis> be a cool nameung scheme for a mini sized distro
[10:13] <almoxarife> i never figured out what a 'oneiric' was
[10:15] <dr_willis> pangolin - the other yellow  meat.
[10:16] <dr_willis> now i have to go home. get a n|t install cd and see if it hhas apt-get
[10:20] <almoxarife> dr_willis: i just happen to have one, will look
[10:20] <skimini> does anyone know how to adjust mouse wheel behaviour in ubuntu 12.10 please?  ....the one I have scrolls too fast/too much per click of the wheel
[10:22] <almoxarife> dr_willis: nop, hence the 'mini'
[10:24] <bou> Installed, or tried to install, ubuntu 12.04 on a refurbished laptop. bootloader "failed to install in the designated area" or similar. followed instructions here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair, which ends by advising people to come to a place like this and ask for help. so, any help appreciated
[10:24] <almoxarife> gots to love kde, used dolphin to open the folder on a network drive (fish) and opened the iso with ark, flawless
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> bou: are you installed Grub from the liveCD?
[10:25] <master> dr_willis, i just installed precise from net boot and it definitly has atp-get
[10:25] <master> apt*
[10:26] <rudivs> can I "pause" the file downloading during a distribution upgrade process? with my current connection, a 1.4GB download will take about 18 hours it seems...
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> rudivs: what are you downloading using?
[10:26] <almoxarife> master: i am looking at the iso content, i wonder why i dont see it?
[10:26] <rudivs> ActionParsnip, the Distribution Upgrade tool
[10:26] <bou> ActionParsnip, no, from USB
[10:27] <bou> ActionParsnip, from a USb from which, incidentally, I installed Ubuntu on another laptop, fully successfully
[10:27] <dr_willis> perhaps the italler installd it.
[10:28] <almoxarife> dr_willis: could be, them itallers are tricky
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> bou: same difference
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> bou: you can use the omgubuntu guide called 'sticking it to grub' to chroot to the installed OS and reinstate grub
[10:29] <bou> ActionParsnip, i installed ubuntu from usb external device, not just the grub, that is what didn't install (properly)
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> bou: you can chroot and fix it easily
[10:30] <dr_willis> may want to make sure the bios dosent have a "protect the mbr/antivirus" setting also
[10:30] <bou> ActionParsnip, thanks for that, however i have no idea what it even means to "Chroot" so i guess it is another trip to google,
[10:31] <bou> I'd appreciate if some one could take it from here:
[10:31] <rudivs> ActionParsnip, it gives me a Cancel button - if I press it, will it keep the files it has downloaded so far or delete them? ie can I use the Cancel button and then start the upgrade process from where it left off later?
[10:31] <bou> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1392367/
[10:31] <ambikuk> help
[10:31] <dr_willis> bou:  the boot-repair live cd may elp also
[10:31] <bou> as directed from the how-to i was already following ...
[10:31] <bou> dr_willis, i do not have a boot-repair live cd
[10:31] <haydar> Hello, guys im trying to install VMWare workstation on ubuntu 13.04 Raring. but vmware cant find the kernel header. i tried to reinstall the headers and stuff but that didnt work anyone got an idea where i can look ?
[10:32] <dr_willis> so get one?
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> haydar  #ubuntu+1
[10:32] <haydar> MonkeyDust, thx
[10:32] <dr_willis> !boot-repair
[10:33] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[10:35] <Bartzy> Hey
[10:35] <DrLinux> I can't connect with ethernet cable, only wlan - I need to get my full duplex 100/100 working in an hour. Guidance needed!
[10:35] <dknight> has anyone tried kexi? I liked sequel pro but it is only for Mac. any suggestions?
[10:35] <Bartzy> For a developer laptop - What version of Ubuntu should I install ? 12.10 ?
[10:36] <dknight> Bartzy: your statement is ironical
[10:36] <dknight> a developer knows exactly what (s)he wants on the system
[10:36] <dr_willis> DrLinux:  plug it in.. check dmesg output for errors.
[10:36] <dknight> Bartzy: if its a wanna developer in question, then ask the master
[10:37] <dr_willis> DrLinux: try with a live cd.. see if it works there. to prove its not a hardware issue.
[10:37] <Bartzy> dknight: What? I just need a stable system to web develop on. is 12.10 stable? Why should I go for 12.04 LTS?
[10:38] <dr_willis> Bartzy: doubt if it matters much.
[10:38] <bou> dr_willis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair is the page i reported in the first place that i was following instructions, and given that it can not give any more generic advice, advises to come to somewhere like this for further help taking from my results, which i have also pasted
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> Bartzy  12.04 and 12.10 are both stable, choose the one you prefer
[10:38] <Bartzy> MonkeyDust: What are the differences ?
[10:38] <dr_willis> bou so you did use the boot-repair tool?
[10:38] <DrLinux> dr_willis, I'm sure it's software.
[10:39] <bou> which i can paste again: can some one help by reading this pastebin and advise what i should do further please?
[10:39] <bou> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1392367/
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> Bartzy  i'l sure there are reviews that describe the differences
[10:39] <bou> thanks
[10:39] <bou> dr_willis, as stated in my first sentence, yes i did
[10:39] <dr_willis> DrLinux: if a live cd works. see what module its loading for the nic.
[10:39] <Bartzy> MonkeyDust: And it's not an issue to use Gnome 3 and not unity ?
[10:39] <bou> but it didn't repair it enough for ubuntu to be able to boot so i am asking here for futher help
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> Bartzy  unity is a shell over gnome3
[10:40] <riqdiiz> I previously had xp and ubuntu installed side by side and wanted to add slitaz in the list how do I do that such that I still maintain ubuntu grub as well as xp?
[10:40] <Bartzy> MonkeyDust: So using Gnome Shell instead of Unity? Is it during installation or afterwards ?
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> Bartzy  yeah, you can do it afterwards, i don't use unity myself
[10:41] <dknight> Bartzy: go for the latest stable release. Use LTS when you want to use the same system for a very long time.
[10:41] <dr_willis> bou got a pastebin of the boot-repair info file? you did chevk the bios to make sure no mbr protection features are enabled?
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> Bartzy  tip: first get to know ubuntu, before you start using it for development purposes
[10:41] <RJ45-Q> Samba is set up and works when the service is enabled in the command line, but when I check 'personal file sharing' in preferences it says the feature can't be enable because the required packages are not installed!, what packages am I missing?
[10:41] <Bartzy> MonkeyDust: I'm using Debian right now. Is it that different ?
[10:42] <Bartzy> dknight: Thanks.
[10:42] <Bartzy> MonkeyDust: And do you use gnome shell, or just gnome 2? :) Is there an option besides gnome shell and unity ?
[10:42] <Bartzy> I'm currently using gnome 2 with Debian. Interested to move forward but I'm afraid of the change ;)
[10:42] <bou> dr_willis, i got a pastebin of the boot-repair info file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1392367/
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> Bartzy  these questions are offtopic -- i use gnome-classic/fallback
[10:43] <dr_willis> bbl. heading home.
[10:43] <RJ45-Q> what packages am I missing?
[10:45] <warhole_> no comments just a salud,installet linux mint 14 nadia,and was abel too install vmware tools aswell,dam used hours on that,grenn on this
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[10:47] <warhole_> ok.
[10:48] <warhole_> im been doing dos fore 20 years ,,last few months been looking into ubuntu and now mint
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> warhole_: If you like DOS, you'll love powershell :)
[10:49] <warhole_> dam complicated but if i take it slow its quite satis fiing
[10:50] <warhole_> norwegian in spain,language  is hard enoufgh
[10:50] <TeraQuibbler> How can i install ubuntu raring?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> TeraQuibbler: ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:50] <swordsmanz> e17 or nothing
[10:50] <brady> the unity sidebar is not present in ubuntu GNOME remix?
[10:51] <riqdiiz> I still on 9.04;-)
[10:52] <riqdiiz> No  much problems.
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> brady  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> riqdiiz: just no updates or support, pretty big problem imho
[10:54] <riqdiiz> TeraQuibbler: what is raring?
[10:54] <RJ45-Q> Samba is set up and works when the service is enabled in the command line, but when I check 'personal file sharing' in preferences it says the feature can't be enabled because the required packages are not installed!, what packages am I missing?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> riqdiiz: codename of Ubuntu 13.04
[10:55] <warhole_> raring in norwigian is steve jobs one who does the opposite
[10:55] <brady> can one use cairo dock in gnome3 ?
[10:56] <RJ45-Q> can anyone hear me?
[10:56] <Metrics> nope
[10:56] <RJ45-Q> x.x
[10:56] <warhole_> a little bit,as always
[10:57] <riqdiiz> Already?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: I see you
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> brady: sure if you want
[10:57] <RJ45-Q> Samba is set up and works when the service is enabled in the command line, but when I check 'personal file sharing' in preferences it says the feature can't be enabled because the required packages are not installed!, what packages am I missing?
[10:57] <warhole_> no,installed and managed too get up and going this mint system,spo im quite happy tjis morning,,ok
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> brady: the app requires compositing which is given by compiz, so i will run
[10:57] <almoxarife> RJ45-Q: does it not ask you if you want to install now?
[10:57] <Metrics> RJ: perhaps this helps: http://macpablodesigns.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/enable-personal-file-sharing-in-ubuntu-10-04/
[10:58] <RJ45-Q> almoxarife: no, but even if it did, I want the debs
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: what are you using to click 'sharing'?
[10:58] <brady> so it will run?
[10:58] <TeraQuibbler> ActionParsnip: they are afk all of them
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> brady: yes
[10:58] <brady> cool.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> TeraQuibbler: so?
[10:58] <warhole_> with a litle bit help from frienda
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> TeraQuibbler: doesn't mean its ontoppic here
[10:58] <TeraQuibbler> ActionParsnip: do install ubuntu raring, i install 12.04 and enable unstable repo?
[10:59] <TeraQuibbler> 12.10
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> TeraQuibbler: you will need: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> TeraQuibbler: if you need to ask, you probably shouldn't use pre-release
[10:59] <rootpt> sometimes the list in console is too big and i cant push more on the top, what could i do to see the entire list?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> rootpt: pipe the text to less
[11:00] <Metrics> or tail it :)
[11:00] <rootpt> sorry?
[11:00] <TeraQuibbler> ActionParsnip: k thanks.
[11:00] <rootpt> don't understand sorry.
[11:01] <riqdiiz> Where can I get a decent dictionary for computer jargon?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> rootpt: what command are you running to make a lot of text?
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> rootpt  type [your command] | less
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> riqdiiz: online.....
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> rootpt: eg:  ps -ef       outputs a LOT of text. If you run:  ps -ef | less      you can use the pager to view the text
[11:02] <almoxarife> RJ45-Q: you need 'samba' deb
[11:03] <RJ45-Q> whoever sent my that blog link, thanks, I thing it might work for some reason.
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> RJ45-Q: why not make life easier and just get a web connection and get setup
[11:03] <RJ45-Q> almoxarife: ns, I installed it.
[11:03] <RJ45-Q> almoxarife: it no work
[11:03] <RJ45-Q> ActionParsnip: I now have a web connection, it just sucks, I want the debs!
[11:04] <RJ45-Q> debs = future installations
[11:04] <RJ45-Q> and knowing what's going in ur system.
[11:04] <almoxarife> RJ45-Q: it may 'no work' but is what includes the server, which 'no work'
[11:05] <RJ45-Q> apache requires 10 packages, ffs.
[11:05] <RJ45-Q> almoxarife: ur embarrassing urself, be quite please.
[11:05] <almoxarife> he seems very uptight
[11:06] <rootpt> ActionParsnip: ahmmm ok thanks man.
[11:07] <almoxarife> !info samba
[11:08] <rootpt> ActionParsnip: for example the comand is netstat -a |less
[11:08] <rootpt> ?
[11:21] <phax> Hi I updated grub 1.5 to 2 and now I get error 15 on startup, searching online this seems a common issue. I have booted using unetbootin and mounted linux, can you please advise how to fix it
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> phax  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[11:33] <lxx> hello
[11:33] <lxx> is there any body?
[11:34] <dsenator> hey all
[11:34] <dsenator> a quick one
[11:34] <dsenator> bluetooth adapter not present in ubuntu 12.10
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> rootpt: exactly
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> lxx: lots
[11:35] <rootpt> and then i need to click enter enter enter
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> dsenator: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i blue   do you see it detected?
[11:35] <rootpt> until finish
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> rootpt: you can use cursor up and down
[11:35] <dsenator> ActionParsnip, let me do that now
[11:35] <lpe> afternoon gentlemen, anyone know how I can go about to remove this package? It seems something is really broken http://pastebin.com/Wt7L8KaS
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> rootpt: Q to exit
[11:35] <rootpt> yep, i see
[11:36] <rootpt> thank u man
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> rootpt: can also use PgUp and PgDn
[11:36] <rootpt> hmmm
[11:36] <rootpt> better
[11:36] <rootpt> =)
[11:36] <phax> MonkeyDust, no such command found. how do i boot into my existing linux kernel from unetbootin then i can run grub-install again
[11:36] <dsenator> ActionParsnip, nothing actually happens in my terminal when I enter the lines
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> phax  if lsb_release -sd is not found, then it is not ubuntu
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> dsenator: if you run:  lsusb; lspci    do you see it listed there?
[11:37] <phax> MonkeyDust, i am booted onto archlinux but the distro installed on the hard drive is Ubuntu 10.0.4
[11:37] <abhitest> hi. i installed opensuse then i installed lubuntu and now my grub do nto show suse. it only shows lubuntu. i am inside lubuntu right now. how can i get opensuse listing in grub back?
[11:37] <abhitest> help please
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> abhitest: if you run:  sudo update-grub   does it get added?
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> phax  what was the initial issue again?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> rootpt: the less pager is very useful :)
[11:39] <phax> MonkeyDust, i installed some updates including moving from grub 1.5 to grub 2 now i get error 15 on bootup
[11:39] <phax> MonkeyDust, i can mount my linux partition after booting from the usb-archlinux
[11:40] <dsenator> ActionParsnip, pls what exactly shd I be looking for to tell me if its there or not, a lot of output turned up? I did use a bluetooth mouse and that is always recognised... I just cant send or receive bluetooth messages from my phone or elsewhere, but it did work normally until it stopped
[11:40] <phax> MonkeyDust, is there any file i need to edit or do i need to re-run grub-install?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> dsenator: do you dual boot?
[11:40] <dsenator> yes
[11:40] <stephenson> hello
[11:40] <blackshirt> hello stephenson
[11:40] <dsenator> ActionParsnip, yes I dual booth
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> dsenator: in windows device manager, disable the ability for the device to wake up the system as well as disable power management on it
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> dsenator: patience
[11:41] <stephenson> is anyone out there
[11:41] <dsenator> i use windows 7
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> dsenator: it still has a device manager
[11:41] <dsenator> yes
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> dsenator: so why tell me it's Win7?
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> !grub > phax start here, read this first
[11:41] <dsenator> I am told to always give all info about my spec to get the right help
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> dsenator: true :). You aren't wrong
[11:42] <Kartagis> when I ftp in a server and type ls, the server becomes unresponsive. how come?
[11:42] <stephenson> where r u girls
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: same in gui apps?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> !girls
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> stephenson  type alt-f4 to get a list
[11:43] <spidernik84> Hi everyone. I was wondering: when building a deb package, is it preferrable to build a version of the package for each release it should be installed on? Say I build it for Lucid, do I need to build a Precise version for better performances/features/compatibility or can I use the same one?
[11:43] <dsenator> ActionParsnip, i will follow all your directions here and note it so when I switch over to windows I can do what you say without having this xchat on still... so ple tell me
[11:43] <narcos> Hi all. What's the best way to remote GUI into Ubuntu 12.10 desktop? I'm trying VNC, but am getting a boring grey background (after following https://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/06/25/how-to-install-vnc-server-on-ubuntu-server-12-04/)
[11:43] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: haven't tried yet. will try in 10
[11:44] <phax> MonkeyDust, i don't know why this failed in the first place
[11:44] <Iohn> I recently accidentally deleted a bunch of files from a partition. I thought I'd be smart to create an image of it, using TestDisk to avoid any further writings possibly damaging the files. Now I've got the ISO but I'm not sure of how to try to extract the deleted files, any ideas? The partition was my home, partitioned in Ext4
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> phax  got to go, i'm sure someone else can help, good luck
[11:45] <phax> thx
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> dsenator: win device manager, properties of device, disable wake up and power management
[11:46] <abhitest> ActionParsnip: yes i ran update-grub and it do not work
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Iohn: use your backups
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> abhitest: my grub skills are slim
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> abhitest: the guys in #grub may be able to help some
[11:48] <abhitest> ActionParsnip: ok
[11:49] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: no stall whatsoever using gFTP
[11:49] <yacc> spidernik84, well, that depends, usually the big difference between distributions are libraries => hence a package for xxx will not work on older/newer distributions that miss the relevant version (or a compatible one).
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: cool :)
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: does the client show it switching to different transfer modes?
[11:51] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: first Binary, then Passive
[11:51] <Iohn> ActionParsnip: The directory I deleted sadly has no recent backup. Which is why I hoped to be able to extract the deleted files from the ISO. Is there any possiblity of acquiring these files?
[11:51] <spidernik84> yacc, thanks, so it's generally better to compile it for different distributions to avoid issues
[11:51] <Kartagis> do I need PASV before ls?
[11:51] <obert> how to wget an entire site?
[11:51] <Kartagis> obert: wget -m
[11:51] <Metrics> obert: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/downloading-entire-web-site-wget
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Iohn: then you can try foremost. You will need a partition as big as the partition to spit all the data to (deleted and current). The data may be damaged or it may be fine
[11:52] <Kartagis> obert: one caveat though, if the server has php files, they are first processed, then wget'd
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: try it, not sure
[11:53] <obert> mirror
[11:53] <Iohn> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the help, I'll give it a go.
[11:53] <obert> i still download one only index
[11:53] <obert> bbl
[11:53] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: heh, typing passive worked
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: groovy :)
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Iohn: its gonna take a while
[11:54] <rudivs> I use dual monitors in ubuntu, with Sticky Edges turned off. Moving from left monitor to right, the cursor moves across smoothly, moving from right to left, it sticks. Is this expected behaviour, or a bug? ie, should it move smoothly both ways across the divide?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> rudivs: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[11:56] <rudivs> ActionParsnip, precise
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> rudivs: are there bugs reported?
[11:58] <rudivs> ActionParsnip, there are bugs for Sticky Edges, but I haven't found any for "one way only" sticky edges
[11:58] <dsenator> ActionParsnip, once I do that what next do I do... I am asking cos I have to exit the IRC chat to get to windows
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> dsenator: reboot to Ubuntu
[11:59] <Kishi> How would I check which version of Ubuntu I am using?
[11:59] <dr_willis> !version | Kishi
[11:59] <spidernik84> cat /etc/issue
[12:00] <Kishi> Mhm, so it's precise after all
[12:00] <Kishi> Then I'm having some trouble
[12:00] <Kishi> I'm trying to install iplist (iplist.sourceforge.net)
[12:01] <Kishi> Site instructed me to create a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d with my version to add iplist to repositories
[12:01] <Kishi> And so I did, typing precise as my version
[12:01] <Kishi> Homever something didn't work out
[12:02] <rudivs> ActionParsnip, seems to only be an issue when launcher is set to hidden
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: can you pastebin the file you made please
[12:02] <Kishi> It's 2 lines of text I can paste it here as well
[12:03] <Kishi> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ssakar/ppa/ubuntu precise main
[12:03] <Kishi> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ssakar/ppa/ubuntu precise main
[12:03] <abhitest> help restore encrypted lvm suse after installing lubuntu to grub2
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: why are you adding it like that?
[12:03] <Kishi> ActionParsnip: http://iplist.sourceforge.net/download.html
[12:03] <Kishi> I was following the instructions posted there
[12:03] <bazhang> abhitest, sounds like a suse issue
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: delete the file you made
[12:04] <Kishi> I allready did
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: there is a command to do it automatically
[12:04] <bazhang> abhitest, #suse
[12:04] <Kishi> Cause it was throwing errors during updates
[12:04] <ale_> hi, what do I need to do to have the internet turn on when I turn on the computer? it takes about 10 minues to turn on each time
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ssakar/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install iplist
[12:04] <ale_> it says "waiting for network connection"
[12:05] <abhitest> bazhang: i first installed suse with /boot in normal partition and / inside encprted lvm. "Then" I installed lubuntu 12.10 and now grub shows only lubuntu. so its lubuntu issue. not suse.
[12:05] <ale_> and stays waiting.. and when it turns on no network until I do "sudo service network-manager start"
[12:05] <ale_> how do I get that to start by default? surely the internet should work out of the box
[12:05] <ale_> also with new ubuntu if there's a system problem it doesn't show me the error
[12:05] <ale_> it just wants to send it somewhere
[12:05] <ale_> :(
[12:06] <Kishi> ActionParsnip: Didn't work
[12:06] <Kishi> ActionParsnip: I got 404
[12:06] <dr_willis> it does work outof the box on bootup here for me ale_  sounds like you got somthing crashing. How are you connected to the internet?
[12:07] <Kishi> Oh wait I get it
[12:07] <Kishi> There is no version for precise available in the repository
[12:07] <Kishi> Sucks.
[12:08] <Kishi> ActionParsnip: How do I remove this repository now? It's useless and keeps throwing up errors in console while updating
[12:11] <datapolitical> Question: I have a p5k ws motherboard and want to get a killer graphics card, what are the limiting factors
[12:11] <datapolitical> ?
[12:11] <Metrics> kishi: just put a # in front of the entry and run update again
[12:12] <dr_willis> datapolitical:  the amount of $$$ you want to waste :)
[12:12] <Kishi> Metrics: Oh yeah, commenting the lines. How could I not come up with this myself? Hahaha. Thanks.
[12:13] <datapolitical> From a technical perspective
[12:13] <Metrics> kishi: another option is to delete the lines you dont need anymore and run update :)
[12:13] <OerHeks> Kishi, open softwarecentre, edit sources and remove the ppa
[12:13] <dr_willis> datapolitical:  Im not clear on what sort of answer you are expecting really...
[12:14] <dr_willis> If you want a suggestion on what card/make to get for the lease amount of problems? or some other specific needs?
[12:14] <Kishi> The PPA might be useful, but only when its maintainer adds repositories for precise version for Ubuntu
[12:14] <Kishi> I guess I should bug him about that.
[12:15] <llutz> datapolitical: whatever a "killer graphicscard" might be, ask in #hardware
[12:15] <Discordian93> hi
[12:16] <Discordian93> I'm trying to open a file but my console gives me this error message:  error while loading shared libraries: libgnome-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:16] <Discordian93> I have libgnome2 installed
[12:17] <dr_willis> !find libgnome-2.so.0
[12:18] <knowj> Is there an alternative to Samba to mount a Ubuntu share on a OSx Device?
[12:18] <Metrics> run apt-get install libgnome2-0 libgnome2-dbg
[12:18] <knowj> or should Samba be sufficent?
[12:19] <dr_willis> knowj:  you could use NFS i imagine if you make nfs shares. Not sure if OSX can mount stuff via ssh.
[12:19] <knowj> dr_willis: Samba is working fine but I always thought it was a protocol more aimed at windows
[12:20] <dr_willis> knowj:  windows uses it. :)
[12:20] <dr_willis> often uses it badly. ;P
[12:20] <knowj> dr_willis: I just want an easy way to work on file on my dev box over the network and FTP is pretty useless
[12:21] <dr_willis> knowj:  ssh is our friend. ;)
[12:21] <knowj> dr_willis: SSH is great but I was always having to move files rather than working directly and I can't quite get on with VIM over textmate for dev work
[12:22] <dr_willis> I use the sshfs feature on ubuntu ;) no idea if osx has a similer thing
[12:22] <Metrics> owncloud! :D
[12:23] <soman> Hi all! Can I made a some script which downloads only necessary apps from specified repositories (not full repo)? WWhat tool can help me?
[12:23] <Discordian93> Metrics: still not working
[12:24] <Metrics> run ldconfig and test again
[12:25] <MasKBoss> hi!! i'm really new to this... just installed ubuntu and after login in, only mouse pointer and background appears! i can access the terminal. can someone help me? something with the graphics maybe?
[12:25] <Metrics> discordian: if it fails again, try apt-get install libgnomeui-dev
[12:28] <Discordian93> nop, not working
[12:28] <Metrics> both? ^_^
[12:29] <Discordian93> oh, okay, I see the problem kin the program's forum
[12:29] <Discordian93> it only works in  32-bits systems :S
[12:29] <zlszk> where to download emacs elisp plugins?
[12:29] <Metrics> ah
[12:29] <llutz> Discordian93: sudo apt-get install libgnome2-0:i386
[12:30] <dr_willis> MasKBoss:  whats your video card?
[12:30] <dr_willis> zlszk:  you searched the package manager listings yet?
[12:31] <Discordian93> thanks! that did the trick
[12:31] <Metrics> :)
[12:31] <dr_willis> el-get - install and manage elisp code for Emacs
[12:32] <dr_willis> apt-cache search emacs elisp
[12:32] <dr_willis> emacs23-el - GNU Emacs LISP (.el) files
[12:32] <zlszk> dr_willis,yes i want to download wb-line-number.el,but i can't find it,i remember some website can download elisps but i forget
[12:33] <billaudj> Hello guys
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> kisom: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge; sudo ppa-purge ppa:ssakar/ppa; sudo apt-get clean
[12:34] <cfhowlett> billaudj: greetings
[12:44] <sam_nazarko> lvm lost all my data
[12:44] <sam_nazarko> can anyone help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12376822#post12376822
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> sam_nazarko: why did you not make a backup?
[12:46] <sam_nazarko> I did
[12:46] <sam_nazarko> but Ubuntu decided to trash it
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> sam_nazarko: scary
[12:46] <sam_nazarko> anyway, that is beside the point, can it be restored or not?
[12:46] <sam_nazarko> it's damn weird, because the volume group showed as exported on boot, when i tried to import, zilcho, no logical volumes
[12:47] <seeeeesar> ye
[12:48] <seeeeesar> test.
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> !test | seeeeesar
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: howedy
[12:52] <Metrics> hey
[12:52] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip
[12:53] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, , what's new?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: work is quiet :)
[12:58] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, a break in the action :)
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: but not the parsnips :)
[12:58] <BluesKaj> :)
[13:00] <hittt> im getting a "System program crash detected" every time i boot up
[13:00] <hittt> what can i do?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> hittt: which release ?
[13:01] <hittt> 12 04
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> hittt: did you upgrade from Oneiric?
[13:02] <hittt> which one was oneiric?
[13:02] <TandyUK> hi guys..
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> hittt: 11.10
[13:02] <desu> 11.10?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> hi TandyUK
[13:02] <hittt> no it was 11.04
[13:02] <TandyUK> having installed ubuntu onto a rr620 raid controller (and NOT rebooted)
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> hittt: did you clean install Precise?
[13:02] <desu> wasn't 11.04 natty?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> desu: yes
[13:02] <hittt> clean install?
[13:02] <desu> then 11.10 was oneric
[13:02] <TandyUK> how do i 'boot' into the newly installed os, and install the dkms drivers for the hardware, and finally rebuild the initrd image so that i can boot from this controller?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> hittt: delete the old release and install a new one a-fresh
[13:03] <hittt> ah
[13:03] <hittt> no i upgraded
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> TandyUK: you could use the liveCD and chroot to the installed OS
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> hittt: you have leapfrogged a release
[13:03] <MasKBoss> can someone help me with my issue?
[13:03] <hittt> i know :D
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> hittt: this will cause isues
[13:03] <TandyUK> ok i did that, but /dev seems a bit wierd while chrooted
[13:03] <MasKBoss> i'm really new to this... just installed ubuntu and after login in, only mouse pointer and background appears! i can access the terminal. can someone help me? something with the graphics maybe?
[13:04] <TandyUK> eg, o hard disks are listed at all, not even the ones which are visibile to the installer without tthe dkms module
[13:04] <hittt> i thought you can upgrade to an LTS no matter which release you are using
[13:04] <phix> MasKBoss: no panel
[13:04] <phix> ?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> hittt: no, only LTS to LTS or release to the next release
[13:04] <desu> MaskBoss, what version are you running?
[13:04] <MasKBoss> phix nothing..
[13:04] <phix> MasKBoss: hmmmm
[13:04] <MasKBoss> desu: the latest i guess.. downloaded it from the official website
[13:05] <hittt> oh, sorry i was using 10.10
[13:05] <hittt> but still not an lts
[13:05] <desu> MaskBoss, you wouldn't happen to have an AMD/Intel 2xxx 3xxx or 4xxx gpu would you?
[13:05] <hittt> ActionParsnip: well that just means that if you are using 11.04 or 10.10 you are practically locked out of upgrading normally
[13:05] <hittt> cause you have to leapfrog
[13:05] <m3pow> hello !
[13:06] <MasKBoss> desu i honestly don't know, i assembled this computer a few days ago from old computer parts. is there anyway i can check that on the terminal?
[13:06] <TandyUK> installing the dkms driver goes badly while chrooted
[13:06] <Sab3r> How can i delete all the shit from my SD memory card? I've tried "sudo gparted" but the partitions have a lock icon next to the name. Also tried fdisk, mut when im trying to format my new partition, it says that the device is busy or in use.
[13:06] <hittt> unmount it Sab3r
[13:06] <hittt> or use fuser
[13:06] <m3pow> any ideas why there is slooow disk access in Ubuntu 12.10 /
[13:07] <desu> MaskBoss, try lspci or lshw
[13:07] <Sab3r> hittt: will tryi, thanks
[13:07] <TandyUK> http://pastebin.com/GSRW95hZ
[13:07] <m3pow> in 12.04.1 was just fine, but after a fresh install of it. things got jerky
[13:07] <MasKBoss> desu, ok hold on a sec
[13:08] <micjan02> m3pow, you might try using latencytop to check. but i doubt it will give you any more information if you already suspect your disk
[13:09] <ddaeo> hi
[13:09] <m3pow> thank you micjan02
[13:09] <LucidLuna> hi ddaeo
[13:10] <ddaeo> is there any (easy) way to downgrade libs installed by ppa after removing those ppa ?
[13:10] <TandyUK> ActionParsnip: any suggestions why i cant load the dkms drivers while chrooted?
[13:10] <micjan02> ddaeo, yes, ppa-purge
[13:10] <micjan02> !ppa-purge | ddaeo
[13:11] <frankko> is there a repo for the 3.6 kernel (precise)
[13:11] <ddaeo> micjan02, ubot93 : thnaks
[13:11] <ddaeo> didn't know about it
[13:12] <cocomo> how do i remove this bit at the front of each terminal command i put . ali@ali-Aspire
[13:12] <phix> gang?
[13:12] <cocomo> i presume its my username@computer_name
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> TandyUK: not sure, seems weird
[13:12] <cocomo> can i get rid of it in the terminal
[13:12] <MasKBoss> desu, damn! now it's worst!!
[13:12] <cocomo> my laptop is so small and this takes alot of space
[13:12] <MasKBoss> it was like hanged up, so i just rebooted
[13:13] <jrib> cocomo: forever?
[13:13] <cocomo> no temporary would've me better.
[13:13] <jrib> cocomo: just set PS1 to whatever you like then
[13:13] <MasKBoss> now i can't even login! after entering the password a black screen shows with somethin but really fast, and then gets back to the login page. no errors are displayed...
[13:13] <MasKBoss> anyone?
[13:13] <cocomo> it will show the directory am in thou? right?
[13:14] <jrib> cocomo: only if you setup PS1 that way...
[13:14] <cocomo> PS1 is terminal variable ?
[13:14] <jrib> cocomo: you can see the PROMPTING section in « man bash » for special substitution characters you can use
[13:14] <jrib> cocomo: yes
[13:15] <cocomo> jrib: ty
[13:15] <phix> cocomo: yes
[13:15] <phix> cocomo: it has been for a while now
[13:15] <abyssin> hey, how long does it take to install ubuntu on a computer with 256 mb of ram?
[13:15] <desu> MaskBoss, what do you mean by worse?
[13:16] <desu> abyssin, I would recommend Damn Small Linux
[13:16] <abyssin> the installation seems to be stuck after the step where it is asked if there’s enough space, an internet connection, etc.
[13:16] <abyssin> @desu , ok, but that’s not what i asked
[13:17] <franxute> holaaaaaaa
[13:17] <franxute> eeeeeeeee
[13:17] <desu> abyssin, well I've never tried installation on a machine with less than 2Gb of ram, so I wouldn't know.
[13:17] <franxute> eeeeeeeeeee
[13:17] <franxute> eeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[13:17] <franxute> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[13:17] <franxute> eeeeeeeeeeee
[13:17] <Pici> franxute: stop
[13:17] <FloodBot1> franxute: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:17] <abyssin> @desu thank you :)
[13:17] <franxute> tu puta madre
[13:18] <LucidLuna> @pici he is swearing in spanish
[13:18] <MasKBoss> desu, before i was able to login, but after that only mouse pointer and background appeared. after i rebooted, now i can't even login! after entering the password it goes to a black screen really fast and gets back to the login screen, no errors showing..
[13:18] <Pici> LucidLuna: I'm very well aware.
[13:19] <desu> MaskBoss try a tty? ctrl+alt+f<1-6> f7 to go back to your normal display
[13:19] <MasKBoss> i saw that if i hit ctrl+alt+f1 i can access the console, want me to do something
[13:19] <desu> lscpi/lshw to see what gpu you have.
[13:19] <phix> what's wrong with franxute?
[13:19] <phix> LjL: <3
[13:19] <MasKBoss> desu, ah ok, lets try
[13:21] <MasKBoss> desu, ati radeon 9200 pro
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> MasKBoss: could install xfce4 and use the xfce desktop
[13:23] <desu> I believe it's a similar issue as this: http://ubuntuxtreme.com/howto/how-to-fix-your-amd-graphics-in-ubuntu-12-10/
[13:24] <desu> However, you have much older hardware, so I don't know if that little guide will be of use or not.
[13:24] <MasKBoss> ActionParsnip thats the solution u gave me before, the problem is that after 2 days, the problem was this one. i can't even login!
[13:24] <MasKBoss> desu i'll give it a try
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> MasKBoss: do your partitions have free space?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> MasKBoss: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 and login there, you can run:  df -h   and check :)
[13:25] <phix> I like to press SYSRQ+B
[13:26] <phix> ALT+SYSREQ+B even
[13:26] <desu> sysreq?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> phix: can't like it that much if you get it wrong
[13:26] <phix> desu: print screen button
[13:26] <desu> ah
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> desu: i wouldnt press it
[13:26] <phix> desu: see how it saus Sysrq
[13:26] <MasKBoss> ActionParsnip yeah, lots of free space..
[13:27] <phix> desu: no no, ALT+SYSRQ+S then ALT+SYSRQ+B is better :)
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> MasKBoss: cool, if you make a fresh user, can you log in as that?
[13:27] <desu> actually on my current laptop sysreq and prntscrn are different keys altogether
[13:28] <desu> ( they're actually fn subfunctions of other keys )
[13:28] <phix> desu: really? hmmm well sysreq is the one to press
[13:28] <phix> desu: confusing
[13:28] <MasKBoss> ActionParsnip and how do i make a fresh user? :S
[13:28] <desu> Does nothing.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> MasKBoss: sudo adduser newuser
[13:28] <phix> desu: get a 17"+ LCDed laptop next time for that full keyboard goodness
[13:29] <MasKBoss> desu i saw the tutorial. but i says to download, i dunno how i can do that only in the terminal..
[13:29] <desu> I'll just try it on my desktop later.
[13:29] <phix> desu: ok
[13:29] <desu> wget <link>
[13:29] <phix> desu: wget -c <link>
[13:30] <MasKBoss> ActionParsnip yeah it worked... but now the same as before. only mouse pointer and background :/
[13:31] <MasKBoss> damn i gotta go
[13:31] <desu> Does the c really make much of a difference for small files?
[13:31] <cocomo> exit
[13:31] <MasKBoss> will u guys be here later on?
[13:32] <desu> MaskBoss I would recommend using an earlier version of ubuntu. I'm fairly certain it's just an issue with x11 not agreeing with your hardware.
[13:32] <MasKBoss> ActionParsnip and desu tks for ur help for now. i'll be back to you later
[13:32] <MasKBoss> desu ok wich one?
[13:33] <TandyUK> ok well did everything i though i should - dkms add the module, built and installed it
[13:33] <desu> Great question, I wouldn't actually know since I use debian, kind of a dick for being here I guess.
[13:33] <TandyUK> and rebuilt initrd, rebooted
[13:33] <TandyUK> system starts to boot but i then get caps lock and scroll lock flashing at me, and no response from the machine
[13:33] <TandyUK> how do i tell ubuntu to boot without the stupid graphical crap, so i can actually see what is going on?
[13:34] <desu> esc while the plymouth thing is going
[13:34] <Pici> !text
[13:34] <desu> or any of the f keys I believe
[13:34] <desu> or that
[13:35] <TandyUK> i didnt even see a grub menu tbh
[13:35] <TandyUK> but will tap esc during next boot
[13:35] <Pici> TandyUK: We use grub2 by default now, so shift is the best option.
[13:35] <desu> no grub? did you use wubi to install within windows?
[13:37] <mar77i> hmm, nautilus currently seems to only let me search by place and file type...
[13:38] <TandyUK> ok lol so in text mode it boots just fine
[13:38] <mar77i> is there a way to get ALL o/ the search options?
[13:40] <lolek> hello all, how can i set up route for specific ip through specific gw, for example, from my machine i'm connecting to 172.16.1.100 and this ip should be accesible through for example; 172.16.1.200 (the routing will be set up on my local pc)
[13:42] <TandyUK> route add -host 172.16.1.100/32 gw 172.16.1.200 metric 20 dev eth0
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> lolek: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-add-permanent-static-routes-in-ubuntu.html
[13:43] <kssubu> hi
[13:43] <phix> lolek: man route
[13:43] <phix> kssubu: sup!
[13:43] <lolek> TandyUK: thank You
[13:43] <kssubu> can i install adobe products on ubuntu 12.04
[13:43] <TandyUK> lolek: read the link ActionParsnip posted too
[13:43] <cfhowlett> !wine|kssubu:
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> kssubu: check the appdb for compatibility in WIne
[13:44] <phix> TandyUK: you dont really need to specify metric though or dev
[13:44] <lolek> TandyUK: yeah just watching it
[13:44] <phix> kssubu: there is a port for adobe reader
[13:44] <mar77i> did my question reach #ubuntu?
[13:44] <phix> kssubu: and flash
[13:44] <TandyUK> you dont 'need' to probably 99% of the time, but sometimes you do :)
[13:45] <desu> mar77i what's your question?
[13:45] <phix> TandyUK: sure, if you have multiple interface cards in the same subnet, of course that might break a few things
[13:45] <phix> mar77i: I saw it
[13:46] <kssubu> is flash pro or flash player
[13:46] <phix> cfhowlett: dont be silly, there are linux ports for adobe products
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> kssubu: flash player is available in Linux
[13:46] <phix> ActionParsnip: there sure is
[13:46] <cjae> its there bugs with mount.cifs -V 5.1? on 12.04?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> phix: still waiting for that adobe creative suite for linux ..
[13:46] <phix> cjae: what issues are you having? it works fine for me
[13:46] <rudivs> how can I upgrade from a liveusb? under software sources I can see options for livecd or livedvd, but nothing for liveusb...
[13:46] <nmlj> what you'd use for video downloader for ubuntu 11.10?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> phix: not for long though :)
[13:47] <phix> cfhowlett: did he even mention that product?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> nmlj: are you going to rip the audio out?
[13:47] <cjae> phix: cannot connect with either smbclient or mount command
[13:47] <nmlj> nope
[13:47] <kssubu> i am a 3d moduler
[13:47] <kssubu> i have maya
[13:47] <phix> cjae: connect to what?
[13:47] <nmlj> i want download a video
[13:47] <kssubu> i need photoshop
[13:47] <phix> cjae: are you using dns name, netbios name, IP
[13:47] <phix> ?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> nmlj: there are addons and extensions for web browsers
[13:47] <phix> kssubu: GIMP
[13:48] <desu> Why not use GIMP?
[13:48] <nmlj> Video downloader helper?
[13:48] <phix> desu: ActionParsnip and yourself are my echo tonight :)
[13:48] <cjae> phix: nas4free, I cannot get stab, mount to work but I can clearly see it in my file manager. IP or netbios name
[13:48] <desu> phix, that's ok.
[13:48] <cfhowlett> kssubu: look into inkscape as well
[13:48] <phix> cjae: what is nas4free?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> kssubu: look into or perhaps blender
[13:48] <mar77i> desu: I think something's not quite right with my nautilus. it only displays two search options in the extended menu.
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> nmlj: yes, there are things for web browsers, makes life easier
[13:49] <cjae> phix: NAS based on freebsd with a webmin gui
[13:49] <phix> cfhowlett: blender <3  but that is for 3D stuff
[13:49] <phix> cjae: ummm that is ubuntu related?
[13:49] <desu> ( though if you really need photoshop you can try wine[I've gotten it properly working in the past])
[13:49] <Danawar> Hey ##ubuntu i am trying to install a new php i have added a ppa but when i try to update and upgrade i get this! http://pastebin.com/J9wnFcfz
[13:49] <nmlj> ok i'll try it
[13:49] <cjae> phix: no but I cannot connect to it with my ubuntu machine
[13:49] <phix> desu: or you can use VirtualBox
[13:49] <desu> mar77i, oh I have little experience with nautilus.
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> kssubu: it may run in wine, check the appdb for compatibility, gimp will run cleaner
[13:49] <phix> cjae: can you ping it?
[13:50] <desu> phix, I would have suggested that, but VMs can be a pain if you have older hardware.
[13:50] <FrazG> kssubu: or maybe krita ?
[13:50] <cjae> phix: I can clearly see the shares in my filemanager on ubuntu client. I can use smbclient -L and see the shares plain as day, plus I  can use them from a windows machine
[13:51] <cjae> phix: also the NAS box is mine and is like two feet from me so its not like its someone elses
[13:51] <phix> cjae: so are you using -o username=theUserName ?
[13:52] <phix> or have you enabled guest/.
[13:52] <phix> ?
[13:52] <cjae> phix: also I have a NFS shares that is working corectly on it
[13:52] <norbique> hello
[13:52] <phix> norbique: hai
[13:53] <cjae> phix: I have one created user on the NAS that I can use the credentials for on windows and it works quite well
[13:53] <norbique> sorry to interrupt, just looking for someone who can help me with screensaver in Ubuntu 12.04LTS
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> norbique: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/10/enable-screensavers-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/   works on 12.04
[13:54] <Danawar> Hey all I am still having issues trying to install a new php i have added a ppa but when i try to update and upgrade i get this! http://pastebin.com/J9wnFcfz
[13:54] <phix> cjae: samba3 or 4?
[13:54] <cjae> phix: I have tried setting stab entries and using a credentials file both which give me either no such device or dir or permissions insufficient errors
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Danawar: you may need something to satisfy the deps of the packages, thats why they get held back
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Danawar: i'd contact the ppa maintainer
[13:55] <norbique> ActionParsnip: thank you!
[13:55] <desu> Ummm not necessarily an ubuntu question, but any IDEs anyone knows about that I should check out?
[13:55] <phix> ok I am on a coffee breal now
[13:55] <norbique> I was trying to set up electricsheep, but no success, I remember using the screensaver before had no issues at all
[13:57] <desu> phix, breal?
[13:58] <DiogoPOLISHOP> hello...I need to find some brazilian chanel around here, can any one help me?
[13:58] <phax> I have a Ubuntu installation on /dev/sdb5 which I want to boot into but the grub 2 update there failed. I have booted using Grub Disk but want to boot into the Ubuntu installation so I can fix the GRUB 2 config, any ideas?
[13:58] <cjae> phix: sorry about that Samba 3.6.9
[13:58] <kssubu> thank you my friends thank you very much
[13:59] <DiogoPOLISHOP> hello...I need to find some brazilian chanel around here, can any one help me?
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> !br
[14:00] <DiogoPOLISHOP> vlw
[14:01] <usr13_> livingdaylight: Hello...
[14:01] <desu> ...?
[14:01] <desu>  /msg livingdaylight?
[14:03] <Guest4340> lol
[14:03] <LucidLuna> if i am on a dynamic IP, could I still contribute to a regional mirror?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> LucidLuna: have your IP resolved to a name. Use a service like no-ip or dydns :)
[14:04] <dsa> hello
[14:07] <dsa> you guys know of any good app that backups/restores system state like a snapshot on a virtual machine?
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> dsa  there's rsnapshot, but i havent tried it
[14:08] <dsa> something that backs up/restores system settings, files and services
[14:09] <dsa> MonkeyDust, thanks ill have a look at it
[14:10] <dsa> yesterday i ruined somethings on my system.. made some bad installs/removes which led me to reinstall ubuntu
[14:10] <usr13_> dsa: learning experience(s)....
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> dsa  always make sure to backup, before you start experimenting
[14:11] <Erealz> hey everyone
[14:11] <seednode> Heyo
[14:11] <cfhowlett> Erealz: greetings
[14:12] <Erealz> i love linux and made the big leap over 3 years ago now
[14:12] <Erealz> but been playing on and off b4 then aswell
[14:12] <seednode> congrats, I guess?
[14:12] <seednode> Is this leading to a question?
[14:12] <seednode> OR just saying hi
[14:12] <Erealz> yea
[14:12] <usr13_> dsa:  I find only the need to backup personal files.
[14:13] <Erealz> id like to know if anyone have been successful rooting android on linux
[14:13] <Erealz> i have not been
[14:13] <seednode> Sorry, no smartphone here.
[14:13] <seednode> But I think there are tools to do it.
[14:13] <desu> isn't there channel for that?
[14:13] <Erealz> if you know of it
[14:13] <auronandace> Erealz: try #android (if indeed it is an android)
[14:13] <Erealz> #what the name
[14:13] <bitnumus> hi can someone tell me where shell prompt name is stored? as in i created a new user with 'useradd' and there is no name before the prompt
[14:14] <usr13_> Erealz: I find that Android phones work pretty well the way they are.
[14:14] <desu> .bashrc
[14:14] <dsa> i need to backup system state/services/apps/settings
[14:14] <seednode> bitnumus: To edit the prompt, change a line under ~.bashrc
[14:14] <Erealz> usr13 you miss the the point then of rooting
[14:14] <Erealz> why wouldnt you want to
[14:14] <Erealz> yes it works well
[14:14] <desu> It's a bit tricky to sorth through the mess of bashrc, so I suggest looking at a guide online.
[14:14] <dsa> not speciefic directories only
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> bitnumus: should be in PS1
[14:14] <desu> ( while you're there you should also customize it a bit )
[14:15] <seednode> desu: bashrc doesn't seem like a mess to me.
[14:15] <Erealz> but android is for the nerdy more tech savy people in my opinion
[14:15] <seednode> Mine's like 7 lines
[14:15] <desu> seehnode seriously?
[14:15] <seednode> And more than half of that is aliases I made.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: its no more techy than other mobile OSes. You install apps and use them.
[14:15] <Erealz> and i dont know about you but i like being able to install features on my phone
[14:15] <seednode> Mine has... Two lines outside of my aliases
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: you can do that on iPhone too.....
[14:16] <desu> copy the one from /etc/skel/.bashrc?
[14:16] <Erealz> iphone for yuppies dicks
[14:16] <seednode> Oh, right, I'm thinking of the ~/.bashrc
[14:16] <rober> greetings everyone, is a pleasure to be here with you :)
[14:16] <usr13_> Erealz: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[14:16] <Erealz> i dontlike there comunity there are all mean
[14:16] <bitnumus> hmm, thanks ActionParsnip  and seednode but i think the user i created (without -m) is a little screwed
[14:16] <bitnumus> i tried removing using 'userdel' and readding with -m
[14:16] <seednode> My .bashrc in /etc/skel/.bashrc is 4 lines
[14:16] <bitnumus> would that cause issues?
[14:16] <desu> ...Errrr
[14:16] <usr13_> Erealz: (The video is priceless!:)
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: yes but it does what you said, you can install apps.
[14:17] <desu> give me a sec
[14:17] <Erealz> i can install apps in a 25 phone buddy
[14:17] <Erealz> that dosnt mean it better then an android
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: exactly, so how is that being 'tech savvy'?
[14:17] <Erealz> and you aguement is laughable
[14:17] <dsa> so guys by backing up / entire root i'll be able to recover everything to the way it was yeah?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: i'm not making an arguement, i'm not seeing how installing apps is 'tech savvy'
[14:18] <usr13_> dsa: Just clone it.
[14:18] <dsa> usr13, clone is the command?
[14:19] <Erealz> no
[14:19] <Erealz> android
[14:19] <Erealz> is
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: especially when 'yupie dicks' can do the same thing on iphone
[14:19] <Erealz> the plat form
[14:19] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:19] <Erealz> ioscommunity is stupid
[14:19] <bitnumus> By default, using 'useradd -m username' should it have a shell prompt name ?
[14:19] <bitnumus> in .bashrc
[14:19] <cfhowlett> !ot
[14:19] <dhanasekaran> HI Guys where i can find dhcpd logs i am using isc-dhcp-server please guide me
[14:19] <Pici> Erealz: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: stll doesn't answer me, but its offtopic here
[14:20] <usr13_> dsa: No, it's just an exact image of a drive.  You just put two identical drives in your system, clone to the slave. If anything happens to the primary drive, switch them.
[14:20] <desu> seednode, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1394526/
[14:20] <dhanasekaran> HI Guys where i can find dhcpd logs i am using isc-dhcp-server please guide me
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> dhanasekaran: look in /var/log is a good start
[14:20] <dsa> usr13, oh =/
[14:20] <Erealz> exactly relax
[14:21] <Erealz> it not serious
[14:21] <Erealz> you takeing it personal do you work for apple or somthing
[14:21] <Erealz> oh
[14:21] <usr13_> dsa: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/2-methods-to-clone-your-linux-hard-drive/
[14:21] <Erealz> you own an iphone
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: no, i don't. Your statement just makes no sense
[14:21] <dsa> i was more looking for system restore option
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: i use android, but you knew that
[14:21] <Erealz> so you say
[14:22] <Erealz> but
[14:22] <dsa> like the snapshot example of  virtualbox
[14:22]  * ActionParsnip moves on
[14:22] <Erealz> other say the same i do
[14:22] <desu> seednode, try that one, and look at this for playing around with bashrc https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bash
[14:22] <Erealz> so i know im not the only one
[14:22] <Erealz> so i  guess it a matter of opinion
[14:23] <Pici> Erealz: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.  If you want to chit-chat, there is #ubuntu-offtopic.
[14:23] <usr13_> dsa: Cloning is the ultimate system restore option, IMO. It's much simplier.  It is a complete snapshot, personal files and all.
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> desu: how big is your vbox disk file?
[14:23] <Erealz> pici
[14:23] <Erealz> someone chit chatting with me
[14:23] <Bobbie> Hello, I have a question about ubunut :o is this the right channel for that ?
[14:23] <desu> ActionParsnip, I don't have a virtual box...
[14:23] <usr13_> dsa: Are you using vbox?
[14:23] <Erealz> you saying i cant reply
[14:23] <dsa> usr13, yeah i know i used ghost for that before but thats not the idea
[14:23] <Pici> Erealz: You're both offtopic. ActionParsnip has stopped, please do the same.
[14:24] <Erealz> np iv already had to say what i had to
[14:24] <dsa> usr13, no i'm not
[14:24] <Bobbie> I deleted my ubuntu partition and now I cant boot into my windows 7 OS, I keep getting this GRUB rescue screen for some reason
[14:24] <usr13_> dsa: I just keep /home/ on a separate partition.
[14:24] <dsa> i was just saying like a snapshot works on a virtual machine
[14:24] <Erealz> do you mind stoping telling me this im quite aware of this. thanks
[14:24] <bitnumus> ActionParsnip, i cannot even use tab completion on my new user, any idea why that would be? it doesnt feel like it was created right
[14:24] <cfhowlett> Bobbie: need to run the windows repair function
[14:25] <Bobbie> how ? :o I cannot even boot a cd
[14:25] <Bobbie> the only thing I got to work from a cd is damn small linux
[14:25] <Bobbie> hoping that might give me the possibility to run something else
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> bitnumus: copy the one from /root then uncomment the bottom 3 lines, then run: source ~/.bashrc
[14:25] <Bobbie> I cant run my windows 7 recovery disk for some reason
[14:25] <narendra_> how can i access ext4 drive of ubuntu10.04 in win7 64 bit???  any free software or system setting???
[14:25] <cfhowlett> Bobbie: you have the windows CD?  change your bios to boot from the cd and repair away
[14:25] <dsa> i'm worried about system state services and settings
[14:25] <Bobbie> and I cant run my ubuntu cd either
[14:26] <Bobbie> yeah I have a recovery disk but it wont boot it, grub rescue says that it doesnt recognize the file system
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Bobbie: what happens when you try the ubuntu CD?
[14:26] <cfhowlett> Bobbie: could your optical drive have failed?
[14:26] <dsa> i dont belive /home is responsible for all that
[14:26] <Bobbie> nothing it also says it doesnt recognize the filesystem
[14:26] <bitnumus> ActionParsnip, what would be the reason it didnt create it right in the first place any ideas? there is a .bashrc and home DIR etc, would tab completion be something stored in .bashrc too?
[14:26] <dsa> right?
[14:26] <usr13_> dsa: No it's not.  But what type of customized system state, services and settings to you have?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> bitnumus: its told to start in ~/.bashrc   you may find one is there, just needs the lines uncommenting
[14:27] <Bobbie> I mean I can try to run the ubuntu cd again and see what happens if you'd like but last time it didnt do anything
[14:27] <usr13_> dsa: ... beyond default ones.
[14:27] <dsa> now it's like virgin just installed
[14:27] <bitnumus> hmm
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Bobbie: black screen at boot?
[14:27] <dsa> but thats the idea for now
[14:27] <Bobbie> yes
[14:27] <funky1> anyone experience with mplayer and dvb-s disecq settings in channels.conf?
[14:27] <funky1>  everything on disecq 0 works fine but none on disecq 1, when i run mplayer with -v i see it does not pick up the proper disecq setting, the ones that should be disecq 1 appear as disecq 0, e.g.: SAT, NUM: 53, NUM_FIELDS: 6, NAME: on8, FREQ: 12515000, SRATE: 8888000, POL: H, DISEQC: 0 PIDS:  200  210  0 , entry in channels conf is: on8:12515:h:1:8888:200:210:2 so i thought the disecq setting comes after the polarization setting,...
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Bobbie: then that's something, not noting
[14:27] <Bobbie> grub rescue then pops up
[14:27] <dsa> usr13, probably i wont mess it up again but just in case..
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Bobbie: what video chip do you use?
[14:28] <Bobbie> errmm my laptop uses an nvidia m330 or something like that if I recall correctly
[14:28] <dsa> usr13, and when i start installing and setting up my stuff ill do the same if all is good
[14:28] <Bobbie> ah
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Bobbie: have you tried the boot option: nomodeset
[14:28] <Bobbie> I got the ubuntu disc to boot
[14:28] <Bobbie> its booting
[14:28] <Bobbie> the ubuntu disc
[14:28] <usr13_> dsa: If you did get some sort of system restore going for yourself, that would be about the time you'd learn enough not to hose your system anymore.  Linux is a bit simplier than you realize at first.
[14:29] <Bobbie> lets see how far I get its loading up
[14:29] <usr13_> dsa: We don't have the smoke and mirrors that MS Windows has, (like a registry file).
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> usr13_: gconf is not too dissimilar
[14:30] <Bobbie> oh well this is taking some time xd.
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Bobbie: CDs aren't fast
[14:31] <rober> bobbie:  Did yo had dual boot on your box??
[14:31] <Bobbie> yes I had
[14:31] <dsa> usr13, the problem was webmin > uninstall > zentyal >  zentyal boom messed up my network somehow then remove zentyal and some services were still there
[14:31] <Bobbie> then I deleted the ubuntu partition while I was on windows 7
[14:31] <Bobbie> which I found out was a stupid thing to do
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> Bobbie: you can make its easier by resizing the NTFS in Windows
[14:32] <usr13_> dsa: Don't use webmin
[14:32] <AnnieM> Hi folks.  I tried to install Ubuntu on my win7 drive and now I have no MBR or GRUB.  Win 7 via CD does not see the C:\.  Cannot fix mbr, and I have no linux experience.  Help? Please?
[14:32] <dsa> i mean i messed up probably could repair all that but i thought it would be cleaner to start off fresh
[14:32] <Bobbie> I dont quite get what you mean with that actionparsnip
[14:33] <dsa> usr13, yeah thats why i changed to zentyal
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> !webmin | dsa
[14:33] <usr13_> dsa: If you hose your system up, it is a learning experience, plain and simple.
[14:33] <Bobbie> oh gee, you weren't kiddin CD's are extremely slow.
[14:33] <dsa> right it is
[14:34] <Bobbie> Ill just grab a drink Im right back
[14:34] <rober> bobbie :  Thats why l prefer booting from my usb pendriver  :P
[14:34] <dsa> so you are saying there is no system backup working on ubuntu
[14:34] <dsa> like a system restore on windows
[14:34] <dsa> ?
[14:34] <yellabs-r2> does anyone know how ubuntu one interface was coded ? it looks a bit odd
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> dsa: you can manually backup
[14:35] <dsa> shadow copy
[14:35] <yellabs-r2> not gtk i guess
[14:35] <usr13_> I just dont think there is an automated app that you are thinking of.
[14:35] <dsa> manually backup what ? individual config files?
[14:35] <Bobbie> Im back
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> yellabs-r2: I believe it's python based, look at the deps on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[14:35] <Bobbie> lol
[14:35] <Bobbie> usb pendriver
[14:35] <usr13_> Having backups is basically the same.
[14:35] <dsa> ActionParsnip,
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> dsa: you can do the whole OS or just some folders etc
[14:36] <Bobbie> ah my ubuntu cd booted
[14:36] <dsa> whole OS yeah thats what i was asking for :D
[14:36] <SierraAR> How do I find what my computer's local IP address is?
[14:36] <Bobbie> I can choose between trying and installing ubunty
[14:36] <SierraAR> Using ubuntu 12.04
[14:36] <dsa> ActionParsnip, like a snapshot on a virtual machine right?
[14:36] <Bobbie> ubuntu* should I just pick trying and can I fix my problem from there ?
[14:36] <rober> sierraar:  ifconfig on terminal
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Bobbie: you can kickoff the installer from the liveCD
[14:36] <SierraAR> rober: Thanks
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> dsa: sure, just copy the data in a liveCD and it's good to go
[14:37] <usr13_> dsa: You can backup separate partitions or filesystems such as  /home/  or / or  /boot/
[14:37] <rober> SierraAR: you from argentina?
[14:37] <dsa> ActionParsnip, now im lost :s
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> dsa: its why a separate /home partition is advantageous
[14:37] <Bobbie> actionparsnip: should I choose "try ubuntu" and can I fix my boot problem from there or should I install it to fix it (which I assume takes a hell of a lot longer"
[14:37] <wukon> hi,i'm a newer
[14:38] <usr13_> dsa: The short answer is   "no"
[14:38] <rober> bobbie:  you can fix it from  "try ubuntu"
[14:38] <Bobbie> okay
[14:38] <dsa> usr13, right =/
[14:38] <SierraAR> I have apache2/php5/etc installed and it's loading fine on my machine using my local ip, but other machines on the same network can't connect - Connection timed out
[14:38] <Bobbie> I just want to avoid stupid mistakes, which is why my questions may seem dumb
[14:39] <bitnumus> ActionParsnip, i did as you said, but it seems no commands work, i cannot run 'source ~/.bashrc'
[14:39] <bitnumus> -sh: 2: source: not found
[14:39] <yellabs-r2> SierraAR have you tried local adres ?
[14:39] <tga> greetings, I could use a hand with setting up cherokee
[14:40] <tga> it works fine from the default location, but virtual dirs download php files instead of interpreting them
[14:40] <SierraAR> yellabs-r2, If by local address you mean like 192.168.1.1 then that's what we were attempting to connect to
[14:40] <Bobbie> okay, ubuntu has loaded. where do I go from here ? :oi
[14:40] <usr13_> dsa: We do not have a "system restore" [AFIK] (comparable to what MS Windows has).  And yes, I know that you can get a Linux system into an un-reparable state (just like you can a MS Windows system).
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> bitnumus: is the file there, you can run:    ls -a    to check
[14:40] <yellabs-r2> ok
[14:40] <dsa> funniest thing i remeber from yesterday was even though i removed zentyal when shutting down there were still stuff there sttoping related to it i think modules XD
[14:40] <rober> bobbie: what do you need to do?
[14:41] <bitnumus> which file? i can edit .bashrc yes
[14:41] <Bobbie> well since I deleted my ubuntu partition I boot into grub rescue
[14:41] <Bobbie> while I want to boot into windows 7
[14:41] <dsa> usr13, yeah i know my system was kind of broken not fubar
[14:41] <usr13_> dsa: ... BUT, doing a fresh install and leaving /home/  as is... well, that is a pretty good alternative.
[14:41] <dsa> just i wanted a fresh install since i didnt do much to it
[14:42] <Bobbie> so I dont quite know how I fix that from here
[14:42] <usr13_> dsa: See my PM.
[14:42] <MaxFrames> hello
[14:43] <MaxFrames> I have a series of complicated problems with ubuntu 12.04, I am testing on a virtual machine.
[14:43] <MaxFrames> the first problem is that on the logon screen only the english keyboard is available, and I need the Italian keyboard
[14:43] <rober> bobbie :  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:43] <MaxFrames> once I login, I have both available, but no joy in the logon window
[14:45] <MaxFrames> I have already tried to select Italian in the regional settings and choose "apply globally" but it does not work
[14:45] <rober> bobbie : l had a similar problem,  l fixed it  with boot-repair  :)
[14:45] <Bobbie> ah lol thanks Ill try it out and see where I get
[14:45] <Bobbie> Ill update on here whether it worked/works or not xd
[14:46] <MaxFrames> so I do I choose a different keyboard in the logon window?
[14:46] <rober> bobbie :  Cool, good luck buddy, and never give up.
[14:47] <MaxFrames> anyone?
[14:48] <ania_> yes
[14:49] <rober> maxframes :  go to "keyboard layout" and change it from there
[14:51] <MaxFrames> doesn't work... I have already selected Italian as default for all screens
[14:52] <Bobbie> oh awesome
[14:52] <Bobbie> it's fixed @
[14:52] <Bobbie> !
[14:52] <rober> bobbie :  cool
[14:52] <Bobbie> many thanks rober :) and actionparsnip
[14:53] <rober> bobbie : you can now send us $ 500 to our paypal accounts  :D.         KIDDING!!!!
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrames: you can set it in /etc/default/keyboard
[14:53] <Bobbie> xD
[14:55] <rober> maxframes :   l'd try this    http://askubuntu.com/questions/155424/changing-keyboard-layout-in-ubuntu-12-04-server-command-line-interface
[14:55] <sporkboy> any suggestions on limiting usage on a browser to 30 minutes? right now, it auto-starts chrome, and starts it again when it's closed. it works great, except people hog the public computer a LOT.
[14:57] <JuJuBee> I am having problems with process /usr/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/ :0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 getting up to 100% frequently. It seems related to Rhythmbox and or EasyTag. When using Rhythmbox if I alter the mp3 tags I see this process spike. If I use EasyTag it always spikes and the system gets slow.
[14:57] <tga> anyone running Cherokee?
[14:57] <tga> for some reason I can't get it to serve php out of vdirs
[14:58] <Pici> tga: You could try asking in either #ubuntu-server or #cherokee if you don't get a response here.
[14:58] <tga> ubuntu-server might be an idea, #cherokee is pretty much dead
[14:59] <makillo> hi
[14:59] <usc911> Hi guys can anyone point me in the direction of making a portable ubuntu flash drive on OSX? I need something that I can install to and preserve files etc... on it
[15:00] <makillo> I hate osx i'm sorry ;)
[15:00] <rober> makillo:  theres only one thing l hate more then osx, its ms-windows   xD
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> usc911: use unetbootin
[15:00] <makillo> And all apple products  except the ipod
[15:01] <LapperT> Does anyone here know how wine handles alt-tabbing of fullscreen programs in ubuntu?
[15:01] <makillo> Actionparsnip is right
[15:02]  * ania__ 
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> LapperT: I'd ask in #winehq too
[15:03] <LapperT> Okey :)
[15:03] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[15:03] <bitnumus> ActionParsnip, Is this related to my issue, the /bin/sh ?    >     main:x:1000:1000::/home/main:/bin/sh
[15:04] <desu> makillo, I agree with the Apple bit. I've never seen such utter shit being sold for quite so high.
[15:04] <desu> well except for maybe ambergris...
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> bitnumus: mine's: andy:x:1000:1000:andy,,,:/home/andy:/bin/bash
[15:05] <bitnumus> so what could cause this ?
[15:05] <bitnumus> im lost, i only used 'user add'
[15:05] <desu> useradd <username>
[15:05] <bitnumus> yesyes with -m
[15:05] <llutz> bitnumus: next time use "adduser"
[15:05] <makillo> Or adduser
[15:06] <[awal]> how to make ipv6 in ubuntu?
[15:06] <bitnumus> llutz, should i user 'userdel' and do that ?
[15:06] <bitnumus> and could you actually explain what its done wrong at all ?
[15:07] <llutz> bitnumus: sorry i haven't followed you issue. what is wrong withthat user?
[15:07] <llutz> your*
[15:07] <[awal]> how to make ipv6
[15:07] <makillo> Desu : i think apple is more superficial than technological
[15:07] <bitnumus> everything lol, it has no shell prompt name, tab completion doesnt work and other simple things
[15:07] <bitnumus> just doesnt 'feel' right
[15:07] <llutz> bitnumus: sudo chsh -s /bin/bash main
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> llutz: nice :)
[15:08] <desu> makillo, related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFeC25BM9E0
[15:08] <bitnumus> i coudlnt even use 'logout'
[15:08] <bitnumus> let me try that!
[15:08] <llutz> bitnumus: logout/relogin after that
[15:08] <bitnumus> yay :)
[15:09] <bitnumus> so what did that command actually do llutz  ?
[15:09] <bitnumus> can i blame 'useradd' for this ?
[15:09] <llutz> bitnumus: changes your default shell into bin/bash instead of dash
[15:09] <llutz> bitnumus: you can :)
[15:09] <doomgiver> is linux mint "lisa" similar to ubuntu, somehow?
[15:09] <bitnumus> well thanks alot :)
[15:10] <llutz> bitnumus: either read "man useradd" very carefully or simply use "adduser" next time
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> doomgiver: mint is based on ubuntu, similarly how ubuntu is based on debian
[15:10] <bitnumus> yes, i have read this before, forgot
[15:10] <bitnumus> ty also ActionParsnip
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> doomgiver: mint has a completely seaparate supoprt network
[15:10] <llutz> bitnumus: adduser is a script around useradd doing stuff "right"
[15:11] <makillo> Thats horrible , because everyone around me thinks that Apple is simply the best innovators ....what the hell !!!
[15:11] <doomgiver> ActionParsnip: so, the packages and methods i use in ubuntu (methods = list/series of actions) will work in ubunut?
[15:11] <makillo> (I'
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> doomgiver: more than likely yes
[15:11] <makillo> I'm french
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> makillo: who cares what others think, use what you like :)
[15:12] <desu> Apple has somehow managed to steal everyone else's idea, add a twist, and then get away with it in court.
[15:12] <desu> While robbing people blind, I honestly don't know why people buy that shit.
[15:12] <doomgiver> thank you! ActionParsnip, you have saved the day!
[15:12] <IdleOne> !language | desu
[15:12] <doomgiver> desu: we need more apple haters, so we can burn them in our cauldron of hate
[15:13] <IdleOne> Also, I don't see what Apple has to do with Ubuntu support. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics
[15:14] <makillo> Thank you actionparsnip , at least I know I'm not the only one thinking like that ;) ... Is it the same case in USA ?
[15:14] <ania__> well ubuntu support should help apple users
[15:14] <desu> no
[15:14] <ania__> what do you mean no
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> makillo: no idea, I'm from the UK
[15:14] <auronandace> ania__: ubuntu support is for help with ubuntu
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> ania__: as long as it is ubuntu on apple hardware, yes
[15:14] <DJones> !ot
[15:15] <desu> ania_ no
[15:15] <doomgiver> too many hardliners
[15:15] <ania__> yes but once you put ubuntu on international space station or mars rover ubuntu support should help you with software issues
[15:16] <ania__> that means not more or less they need to know everything everywhere
[15:16] <ania__> :D
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> ania__: yes, it is then ubuntu.
[15:17] <ania__> ActionParsnip: you are still best help on this channel
[15:17] <ania__> i dont know how you do that
[15:18] <ania__> it is goint to turn out you are like SIRI ......nice sexy lady in front of 12 screens ( like big bang theory ) :P
[15:18] <DJones> !ot | ania__
[15:19] <IdleOne> ania__: This channel is for Ubuntu support. Please stop with the chit chat
[15:19] <doomgiver> wow... idlers with too much time
[15:19] <phix> doomgiver: where?
[15:20] <makillo> Can someone tell me a technologie that apple is the only one to have
[15:21] <ipays> how to root login command ?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> ipays: sudo -i    in a terminal
[15:21] <ania__> dont need to .....use sudo comand than yours password
[15:21] <DJones> !root | ipays
[15:22] <MasKBoss> ActionParsnip u there?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> MasKBoss: aye
[15:23] <ipays> sudo: Illegal option -i
[15:23] <k1l> ipays: can you show the command? which ubuntu are you using?
[15:23] <desu> ipays sudo su
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> ipays: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[15:23] <k1l> desu: STOP
[15:23] <desu> aww
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> desu: sudo -i   uses the user's environment. sudo su    uses roots, not ideal
[15:24] <desu> oh boo, you're no fun
[15:25] <jpds> ActionParsnip: No, -i resets the environment.
[15:25] <ipays> ActionParsnip : sh: lsb_release: command not found
[15:25] <chisholm> Is it possible to control where the installer installs grub? (Ubuntu 12.04)
[15:25] <jpds> desu: We're not here to have fun.
[15:25] <DX099> hello, even though I defined policies in "Privacy", I still see some files and folders that shouldn't be there in "Recent" bookmark in Nautilus
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> ipays: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:25] <k1l> ipays: this is a ubuntu support. dont come here if you dont have a ubuntu (like i told you the last days)
[15:26] <ipays> ActionParsnip : SULinux release 1.5 (Server) Kernel \r on an \m
[15:26] <k1l> ipays: so please use the SULinux support
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> ipays: then you are using suse. support for that is in #suse
[15:27] <desu> k1l does that mean I should leave since I'm on debian, or can I still stick around to provide assistance and educate myself?
[15:27] <dv310p3r> so i'm trying to "watch" the /tmp directory. "sudo watch -n1 /tmp" and I get sh: 1: /tmp: Permission denied. I don't understand.
[15:27] <jpds> SULinux looks like RedHat.
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> jpds: http://linux.die.net/man/8/sudo  shows it leaves environments variables the same
[15:27] <llutz> dv310p3r: watch watches commands, not directories
[15:27] <jpds> desu: sudo watch -n1 ls /tmp
[15:27] <dv310p3r> llutz, damnit.
[15:27] <auronandace> desu: you can stay to learn or help others
[15:27] <dv310p3r> So sorry, thank you,
[15:27] <Pici> dv310p3r: jpds's comment was for you
[15:28] <jpds> dv310p3r: You're not doing, what you thinking you're doing.
[15:28] <jpds> dv310p3r: sudo watch -n1 ls /tmp
[15:28] <desu> yay
[15:28] <k1l> desu: you just want to make trouble?  i just said you shouldnt assume the not-ubuntu-way in a ubuntu-support
[15:28] <dv310p3r> Sorry guys total brain fart. THank you
[15:28] <dv310p3r> I use this command all the time.
[15:28] <k1l> and using root shells and stuff is not the ubuntu way. thats it
[15:29] <harrypotter2> how to convert nrg to iso
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> harrypotter2: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-convert-a-nrg-nero-file-to-a-iso-file-in-ubuntu.html
[15:29] <usr13> k1l: Well, you can switch to a root shell in Ubuntu.
[15:29] <k1l> desu: and if the user runs SULinux and cant use sudo and stuff, why the heck is he not asking in their support? so stop being that way
[15:29] <IdleOne> harrypotter2: install nrg2iso
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> harrypotter2: http://www.bing.com/search?q=nrg+to+iso+ubuntu&src=IE-SearchBox&FORM=IE8SRC   all I did
[15:29] <opalepatrick> where is Trash located on 12.10 - would like to rm the contents - cant find it at .local/share/
[15:29] <usr13> k1l: ... or su
[15:29] <desu> rm has no trash, it's gone.
[15:30] <IdleOne> !trash | opalepatrick
[15:30] <harrypotter2> installed but when i am going to convert that to iso saying seems like already an iso
[15:30] <k1l> usr13: right you _can_ . but if you should and should ruin your rights settings in ~ is the other question. most user are fine with sudo
[15:31] <ogalchon1> hi
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> harrypotter2: what does the 'file' command, say it is?
[15:31] <opalepatrick> cheers IdleOne
[15:32] <ogalchon1> :-)
[15:32] <harrypotter2> It seems that win7.nrg is already an ISO 9660 image
[15:32] <harrypotter2> [Aborting conversion]
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> harrypotter2: then there isn't anything to do
[15:33] <usr13> k1l: You won't ruing your settings.
[15:34] <usr13> k1l: You can ruin just as much with sudo  ;0
[15:34] <IdleOne> usr13: Drop it please
[15:34] <usr13> IdleOne: YOU DROP IT!
[15:35] <k1l> *sigh*
[15:37] <chisholm> I found the answer to my problem here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[15:38] <auronandace> !yay | chisholm
[15:38] <ogalchon1> anyone here has an idea why i cannot watch videos in chromium? it says something about flash plug-in :-o
[15:38] <DX099> hello, even though I defined policies in "Privacy", I still see some files and folders that shouldn't be there in "Recent" bookmark in Nautilus
[15:39] <itu1> Hello, I am having trouble getting a multifunctional epson scanner to work in ubuntu 12.04. Could anyone please help me with that?
[15:40] <Cottus> let's see
[15:41] <Cottus> i found this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScannersEpson
[15:41] <ogalchon1> :-)
[15:41] <Cottus> http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=epson
[15:41] <ogalchon1> anyone can help? :-)
[15:42] <itu1> I can't find my model, (stylus tx133), though i can find a similar one (stylus tx 121)
[15:42] <Cottus> itu1: are you in the optical group ( or the appropriate one , like scanner ) ?
[15:42] <Cottus> (you can see it in /etc/group
[15:43] <chisholm> ogalchon1: one option might be to use chrome instead of chromium
[15:43] <ogalchon1> can i use chrome in ubuntu as well?
[15:43] <Cottus> itu1: neither here http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=epson
[15:44] <chisholm> ogalchon1: yeah, just go to the google website to get it
[15:44] <OerHeks> ogalchon1, sure, download the linux version from the website
[15:44] <reindeernix> ogalchon1: You can download a deb file from Google
[15:44] <itu1> I dont seem to bein scanner.
[15:44] <ogalchon1> thanks a lot :-D i'll do that
[15:44] <Virunga_> Hi guys, could you help me with this regular expression/command ls | grep *\.h$ ? i'd like listed all the files with .h extension.
[15:44] <chisholm> ogalchon1: cheers
[15:44] <darkhawk> hi there
[15:44] <Virunga_> But it doesn't work.
[15:45] <itu1> Stylus TX130 Series 	USB 	0x04b8/0x0883 	complete 	all-in-one
[15:45] <Cottus> nice
[15:45] <llutz> Virunga_: ls | grep -E '*\.h$'
[15:45] <Cottus> what error do you get itu1
[15:46] <chisholm> Virunga_: or even try: 'ls *\.h'
[15:46] <proka> Hey guys, I have a problem with fdisk. When I type in fdisk -l /dev/sda for example, I get an Cannot open /dev/sda error
[15:46] <Cottus> !sudo > proka
[15:46] <itu1> When I try to open any scan utility (like Image Scan! for Linux) it just stalls and waits, until I unplug the usb cable.
[15:46] <itu1> Then it tells me it couldnt connect.
[15:46] <itu1> It used to work before
[15:46] <proka> Cottus, Omg. Thank you very much. I feel so stupid now xD
[15:46] <itu1> Like a month or 2 ago
[15:47] <Cottus> proka:  np
[15:47] <Virunga_> llutz: chisholm thank you.
[15:48] <DX099> hello, even though I defined policies in "Privacy", I still see some files and folders that shouldn't be there in "Recent" bookmark in Nautilus ?
[15:49] <Cottus> itu1: there is a log , /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages which gathers messages from when a device is connected
[15:49] <Cottus> it might have interesting info
[15:49] <itu1> Opened /var/log/syslog
[15:49] <itu1> what should i be looking for?
[15:50] <Cottus> well i would unplug the scanner,  look for last message, replug and check for any new messages
[15:50] <Cottus> ( i prefer : tailf /var/log/syslog
[15:50] <ipays> how to patch shell?
[15:51] <k1l> ipays: the answers here wouldnt help you, since you dont use ubuntu.
[15:52] <itu1> Says stuff about disconnecting and reconnecting the printer.
[15:52] <itu1> ends with
[15:52] <itu1> itu-ThinkPad udev-configure-printer: Re-enabled printer ipp://localhost:631/printers/EPSON-TX133-TX135
[15:52] <Sach> What the default shell that installs with ubuntu 12.04?
[15:53] <Cottus> looks fine to me, then i would try (x)sane with root permissions
[15:53] <k1l> Sach: dash
[15:53] <Sach> k1l: I currently use ubuntu 10.04. Do you know what my default shell is?
[15:53] <itu1> I tried (x)sane as root before, stalls just like imagescan
[15:54] <Cottus> oh
[15:54] <Cottus> :O
[15:54] <itu1> Scanning for devices..
[15:54] <itu1> then closes.
[15:54] <itu1> Wait not closes, just stalls.
[15:54] <itu1> But with no window shown..
[15:55] <itu1> Trying to open it again while it stalls says the scanner is busy/
[15:56] <mn2010> hello all, got a question...
[15:56] <k1l> Sach:  echo $0
[15:56] <k1l> that should say what you are using. and im not sure if it was dash on 10.04. but i think it was dash
[15:57] <Cottus> lastly i would check to see if it exists anywhere in "http://localhost:631"
[15:57] <ania__> w
[15:57] <rober> mn2012 :     SHOOT!
[15:57] <auronandace> !dash | Sach
[15:58] <mn2010> xserver: is it possible to run 2 seperate adapters, running different drivers and use xinerama?(Fglrx and radeon{foss})
[15:58] <raven> 12.04 - no libmp3lame any more in avconv?? how to install it?
[15:58] <itu1> ?
[15:59] <Cottus> it's the configuration page for cups ( printers )
[15:59] <itu1> Administration > Find new printers
[15:59] <itu1> doesn't find anything
[16:00] <Cottus> add it
[16:00] <itu1> Wait it's there on Printers
[16:00] <Cottus> ncie
[16:00] <Cottus> ncie
[16:00] <Cottus> nice
[16:00] <FloodBot1> Cottus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:00] <itu1> The printer works, it's just the scanner giving me problems/
[16:01] <itu1> It works on windows though, so it's not broken/
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> itu1: don't they use iscan / iscan-data
[16:05] <mn2010> xserver - is it possible to run 2 seperate adapters, running different drivers and use xinerama?(Fglrx and radeon{foss})
[16:05] <itu1> Yeah they do. I have those installed/.
[16:06] <itu1> It used to work before with this setup/
[16:06] <islandmonkey> Hello, I have the most strangest problem, of which is that when I try to run Google Chrome and Unity, Ubuntu returns me to the login screen
[16:07] <islandmonkey> Has only just happened when I turned the computer on about half an hour ago
[16:07] <islandmonkey> BTW, I did install some updates this morning
[16:07] <islandmonkey> Can't remember what they were though
[16:11] <TexNick> islandmonkey : ya might try the brute force approach & just reinstall chrome
[16:11] <islandmonkey> TexNick: Done that
[16:11] <islandmonkey> Along with Unity
[16:11] <ketterer> Hey guys, I hope you all are having a good day
[16:12] <mn2010> launch chrome from terminal and output status to file (chrome>~/chrome-log.txt
[16:12] <ketterer> Does anyone know how to completly reset all settings for unity web apps. I used the beta version back on 12.04, and since then i have not been able to make them work on 12.10
[16:12] <mn2010> xserver - is it possible to run 2 seperate adapters, running different drivers and use xinerama?(Fglrx and radeon{foss})
[16:13] <islandmonkey> Righto, I'll be back in a minute when I log back in
[16:14] <itu1> Well I have to go now. Thanks for your help Cottus, I'll keep trying tomorrow.
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> mn2010: should be. You may need an xorg.conf file to set it up
[16:14] <Cottus> ok
[16:15] <islandmonkey> mn2010: No output was written
[16:15] <mn2010> simple dual-head setup, with layouts to each screen? i want to make sure before i go into it.
[16:16] <mn2010> islandmonkey: install the chrome-dbg libraries, i have a feeling its with unity though. ive seen that before.
[16:16] <flyinprogramer> anyone know where, or what to search for, to find a server psu that has both a 24pin AND 20 pin plug [for a dual processor mobo]  ?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> flyinprogramer: ask in ##hardwae
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> flyinprogramer: this is ubuntu support
[16:17] <flyinprogramer> ActionParsnip:  didn't know that was a thing - sorry!!! don't hate me!!
[16:17] <mn2010> probably stuck using a 24pin splitter(Y) and a single 24>20 pin adapter
[16:18] <ketterer> Does anyone know how to completly reset all settings for unity web apps. I used the beta version back on 12.04, and since then i have not been able to make them work on 12.10
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> flyinprogramer: no hate here dude :D
[16:20] <mn2010> brb, going to test these xorg config's.... wish me luck!
[16:20] <islandmonkey> mn2010: No chrome-dbg or unity-dbg packages
[16:20] <islandmonkey> Or anything like that
[16:21] <mn2010> islandmonkey: i think its called "chrome-browser-dbg", are you running the ubuntu universe packages or the PPA
[16:22] <decci> I have a Fibre Channel Card which I want to validate with HP hardware.I need to stress test it with BIOS and HP hardware. What test shall I perform
[16:22] <polarsouth> hi
[16:23] <islandmonkey> mn2010: The package is chromium-browser-dbg and I use Chrome, not Chromium. Are you sure it's going to work?
[16:23] <Touhou11> islandmonkey: Chrome is part of a botnet, I would advise against using it
[16:25] <islandmonkey> Touhou11: What are you blabbering on about?
[16:26] <mn2010> islandmonkey: there is a chrome version as well. the Chromium version wont work, as its for the "Chromium" Browser... the debugging symbols will output debugging info. will know if its unity or chrome then,
[16:27] <mn2010> i agree with Touhou11, and if youre running recent builds its slightly faster and uses system version of flash and ffmpeg(libav) codecs. Rather than google versions and doesnt log everything back to google...
[16:27] <bobweaver> !info  chromium-browser-dbg
[16:27] <bobweaver> !info chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra-dbg
[16:28] <islandmonkey> mn2010: Can't find the chrome edition of those dbg symbols
[16:28] <bobweaver> Look in there repo are you using beta ?
[16:28] <islandmonkey> No stable
[16:28] <bobweaver> I think that they have three repos
[16:29] <islandmonkey> And I have looked inside the repos
[16:29] <Touhou11> islandmonkey: Chrome contains proprietary code which you can't examine, I suggest running wireshark while using it
[16:29] <mn2010> ^i cant find it either.... strange... i know it was in there 11/2011... when i was debugging 12.04...
[16:29] <mn2010> brb ^
[16:31] <islandmonkey> Touhou11: What's that got to do with fixing my problem?
[16:32] <Touhou11> islandmonkey: If you don't use Chrome there isn't a problem
[16:32] <decci_> How shall I reboot BIOS 100 time through script
[16:34] <proka> Does anyone know why GParted won't start if there is an USB inserted? It spits out this error message when starting it from terminal: "Assertion (head_size <= 63) at ../../../libparted/labels/dos.c:659 in function probe_partition_for_geom() failed."
[16:34] <jrib> decci_: i'm really curious why anyone would ever want to do that...
[16:34] <decci_> jrib: For BIOS stress testing
[16:34] <islandmonkey> Touhou11: No thank you Richard Stallman. And I still have a problem, since we have also Unity to get back up and running
[16:35] <jrib> decci_: i guess you can put a script to run at startup that writes how many times it has run to disk somewhere...
[16:38] <proka> Does anyone know why GParted won't start if there is an USB inserted? It spits out this error message when starting it from terminal: "Assertion (head_size <= 63) at ../../../libparted/labels/dos.c:659 in function probe_partition_for_geom() failed."
[16:40] <jrib> proka: sounds like a bug.  I'd check for open bugs and file one if it doesn't exist yet
[16:41] <simplew> i have gpg-agent running, still 'debuild -S' continues prompting for the gpg key becuase it asks twice fot the gpg key, can anyone clarify?
[16:41] <proka> jrib, Could it be that this specific USB is causing trouble, or just a generic bug?
[16:41] <jrib> proka: I'd assume it's related to the way that particular usb is formatted
[16:42] <proka> Also, how do I format a USB drive to fat32 using terminal? mkfs.vfat does not seem to do the job.
[16:45] <ner0x> What is the java plugin again? I keep forgetting.
[16:47] <seednode> ner0x: icedtea-web-plugin is what I use.
[16:47] <seednode> Or whatever it's called.
[16:48] <seednode> And OpenJDK/JRE for non-web
[16:48] <ner0x> Thank you.
[16:49] <seednode> I think the name in repos is icedtea-web-java7
[16:49] <Varazir> Anyone here good at start up ? I have create my own conf file and set it to "start on startup" hoping it would start before lightdm but don't do it
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> ner0x: you can use oracle java if you want
[16:51] <soomon> hello. i crated a mdadm raid 5. but it doesnt have the size it should have... here is the information about the raid: 4*3TB hard drives: Personalities : [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10] // md0 : active raid5 sde1[4] sdd1[2] sdc1[1] sdb1[0]. i only get 6TB of storage.. why?
[16:51] <JBzh> Hi. Does someone knows if there is a fix to the python 2.7 SEGFAULT when using help('modules') ? (bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.7/+bug/896836)
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> ner0x: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[16:52] <Varazir> My problem is that I have a script that turn on my TV and my AVR (using CEC HDMI lib), they need to be on befor lightdm/x starts
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Varazir: if you add it in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line, it will run befor lightdm runs. You can also add a sleep command to add an N second pause so the devcie has time to come on etc
[16:53] <Varazir> ActionParsnip: ok I'll try it
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Varazir: use full paths to files etc, they will run as root
[16:53] <Varazir> ok
[16:53] <Varazir> ActionParsnip: ok
[16:55] <Varazir> do I need to add exec before the script file ?
[16:57] <zizo> hi, I'm a very new user of ubuntu. Just installed it into may laptop alongside windows. in ub untu
[16:57] <islandmonkey> Hello, I have a rather strange problem of which is that when I try to login to Unity it takes me back to the login screen
[16:58] <islandmonkey> Chrome does the same thing as well
[16:58] <zizo>  hi, I'm a very new user of ubuntu. Just installed it into may laptop alongside windows. in ubuntu warless is not working. My computer is Dell Inspiron 1525. Any one please help me?
[16:59] <ldlework> how do I get it to install the 5.22? http://hastebin.com/givipamabu.coffee
[16:59] <feeshon> zizo: What model wireless card do you have?
[17:00] <ldlework> nm
[17:01] <honvai> Hello. How to open ipad system?
[17:01] <xangua> honvai: depends on the ubuntu and iOS version you use
[17:01] <ejo> zizo: be sure that any special key on the keyboard for turning the wireless on/off is not the cause
[17:02] <zizo> ejo, I've checked it is on.
[17:02] <zizo> ejo, it is working in windows 7 fine.
[17:02] <honvai> xangua: ubuntu 12.04.1 and iOS 6.0.1
[17:02] <soomon> what is "used dev space" in mdadm?
[17:03] <xangua> honvai: most likely no :)
[17:03] <ejo> zizo: ok good... does the graphic at the top right of your screen indicate the wireless antenna is working?   Is the problem just that you can't connect to your base station?
[17:04] <ejo> (i mean connect to your wireless network)
[17:04] <zizo> ejo, its not working.
[17:04] <ejo> zizo: what exactly is not working
[17:04] <ejo> specifically
[17:04] <zizo> ejo, now I've connected with waired lan.
[17:05] <honvai> xangua: what di you mean?
[17:05] <feeshon> zizo is your card getting detected in ubuntu? I would check the there is a driver installed
[17:05] <zizo> ejo, It is not showing any access point
[17:05] <honvai> xangua: what do you mean?
[17:05] <skai-falkorr> who i need to mail to talk about technical stuff on planet.ubuntu.com?
[17:05] <zizo> feeshon, it is not detecting I think.
[17:06] <feeshon> zizo: at the top where it shows a add on card icon it should give you options for additional drivers
[17:07] <ejo> zizo: possibly because you are connected by wire now.  Also do you have your wireless network configured to not advertise its SSID?  If that's the case then you would need to use the "add a wireless network not shown here" option
[17:08] <xangua> honvai: that in every ubuntu release it supports the current ios, then a new iso update is released and it breaks the supports...a new ubuntu is released and the history repeats
[17:08] <DJones> skai-falkorr: You can contact the planet sysadmins by emailing rt@ubuntu.com.
[17:08] <simple_one> .
[17:08] <skai-falkorr> DJones: thanks
[17:08] <islandmonkey> Hello, I have a rather strange problem of which is that when I try to login to Unity it takes me back to the login screen
[17:08] <islandmonkey> Chrome does the same thing as well
[17:09] <feurety> anyone that can help me with updating World of Warcraft on Ubuntu 12.10?
[17:09] <honvai> How to format ipad?
[17:09] <Myrtti> honvai: why do you want it formatted?
[17:09] <simple_one> i cant see any file included in a .zip when i open it with archive manager.
[17:09] <xangua> honvai: 12.10 is supposed to support ios6 by the way
[17:11] <simple_one> i cant see any file included in a specific .zip file when i open it with archive manager.
[17:14] <TexNick> feurety : you might #wowhead
[17:16] <islandmonkey> Hello, I have a rather strange problem of which is that when I try to login to Unity it takes me back to the login screen
[17:16] <islandmonkey> Chrome does the same thing as well
[17:19] <ukho> is password correct?:)
[17:19] <Guest19003> Ubuntu.com down???
[17:19] <Guest19003> i can't hit it at all?
[17:19] <DJones> Guest19003: Its working for me
[17:19] <Guest19003> can anyone else confirm?
[17:20] <Guest19003> DJones,  where are you located?
[17:20] <DJones> uk
[17:20] <andygraybeal_> comes up for me
[17:20] <Guest19003> i'm in Texas SUA here
[17:20] <Guest19003> USA
[17:20] <andygraybeal_> i'm in ohio
[17:20] <deepm> I am on 12.04 and when I try to update I get this: https://gist.github.com/72e22d7c4fb023331713
[17:20] <Guest19003> andygraybeal can you hit ubuntu.com
[17:20] <deepm> It seems I amnot able to update at all
[17:20] <Guest19003> i can ping it
[17:21] <TexNick> Guest19003 : i'm just west of dallas ... it's working for me
[17:21] <Guest19003> grrrr
[17:21] <islandmonkey> Hello, I have a rather strange problem of which is that when I try to login to Unity it takes me back to the login screen
[17:21] <islandmonkey> Chrome does the same thing as well
[17:21] <Rustyblade3> guys can  anyone help me install Wine on my 64 bit Ubuntu 12.10?
[17:21] <Max401> Guest19003: Also can't connect from UK
[17:21] <Guest19003> Hmmm
[17:21] <olegb> from .dk neither
[17:21] <Guest19003> Some in UK can...some can't... some in Texas can... some can't!
[17:21] <Guest19003> What Gives!  :(
[17:22] <ejo> I cannot reach www.ubuntu.com in California right now
 is your password correct?
[17:22] <ejo> probably won't last too long
[17:22] <islandmonkey> Yes
[17:22] <Guest19003> it's wide spread! everyone panic! :)
[17:22] <Guest19003> at least it isn't my University blocking it!!!
[17:22] <olegb> ejo: could you try to lookup the ip ?
[17:22] <Guest19003> that is what I was afraid of
[17:22] <Toph2> RussellB28,,, install it from Ubuntu Software Centre
[17:22] <ejo> i can, however, ping it.
[17:22] <Rustyblade3> You can use Tor to pass blocks from School and places
[17:22] <Guest19003> 91.189.94.156 isn't that the IP for ubuntu.com
[17:23] <Guest19003> never tried that Rustyblade3
[17:23] <Guest19003> looking no9w
[17:23] <Rustyblade3> Ubuntu.com is working fine from NY
[17:23] <honvai> How to downgrade ios 6.0.1 to 5.1.1 with ubuntu 12.04 terminal?
[17:23] <ejo> i've got 91.189.89.98
[17:23] <phix> Rustyblade3: and from Sydney too
[17:23] <Rustyblade3> Yeah
[17:23] <olegb> ejo: 91.189.89.88
[17:23] <olegb> too
[17:23] <Rustyblade3> If you are being blocked, download Tor
[17:23] <Guest19003> olegb,  i tired that IP and it didn't work for me
[17:24] <phix> nn
[17:24] <olegb> Guest19003: for me neither :-)
[17:24] <Rustyblade3> It makes you anonymous on the internet and you can bypass blocks in Schools, libraries and more
[17:24] <Guest19003> ah
[17:24] <Rustyblade3> Unless ur from china
[17:24] <Guest19003> can someone that is hitting ubuntu.com give us the IP that is working?
[17:24] <olegb> could someone that can reach ubuntu.com lookup the IP
[17:24] <Rustyblade3> They have a great firewall of china
[17:24] <TexNick> Guest19003 : try traceroute
[17:24] <olegb> ah up now
[17:24] <Guest19003> I'll hvae to let my sister try Tor Rustyblade3 she works for a K-12 school that blocks EVERYTHIGN
[17:25] <phix> olegb: gg
[17:25] <Rustyblade3> Here is a link for you convenience
[17:25] <compdoc> 91.189.94.156
[17:25] <Guest19003> don't have it installed TexNick
[17:25] <Guest19003> at the moment
[17:25] <phix> Guest19003: I bet I could get around it
[17:25] <Rustyblade3> u can use tor...
[17:25] <Guest19003> compdoc,  that ip worked for me
[17:25] <ukho> Hi! I've come in www.ubuntu.com just now o_0
[17:25] <Rustyblade3> easy as that
[17:25] <Guest19003> Well looks like the domian now worked as well!
[17:25] <Rustyblade3> https://www.torproject.org/
[17:26] <Guest19003> ok gotta download and install! I'm on a  live used 32bit right now... i need 64! Thanks for the help!
[17:26] <islandmonkey> Hello, I have a rather strange problem of which is that when I try to login to Unity it takes me back to the login screen
[17:26] <Rustyblade3> Thank you and have a nice day :D
[17:26] <islandmonkey> Chrome does the same thing as well
[17:26] <Rustyblade3> guys can  anyone help me install Wine on my 64 bit Ubuntu 12.10?
[17:26] <auronandace> islandmonkey: chrome is a browser
[17:26] <meltingwax> if a help.ubuntu.com says 'Open Settings->Network->Wireless' how can i open this from the command line (running lxde)
[17:27] <islandmonkey> auronandace: I know that; when I run it, I'm returned to LightDM
[17:27] <Rustyblade3> feels ignored*
[17:27] <auronandace> islandmonkey: weird
[17:28] <islandmonkey> auronandace: Indeed
[17:28] <Rustyblade3> guys can  anyone help me install Wine on my 64 bit Ubuntu 12.10?
[17:28] <TexNick> Rustyblade3 : try #winehq
[17:28] <xangua> Rustyblade3: sudo apt-get install wine
[17:28] <Rustyblade3> Yeah i did that and this is what i get
[17:29] <Rustyblade3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1394955/
[17:30] <islandmonkey> auronandace: Any ideas?
[17:30] <xangua> Rustyblade3: are you using a ppa¿
[17:30] <Rustyblade3> Yeah
[17:30] <honvai> How to unlock ipad?
[17:31] <auronandace> islandmonkey: sounds like a setting is wrong somewhere, does it let you login to unity with a guest account?
[17:31] <Rustyblade3> Do i disable the PPA?
[17:31] <DJones> honvai: You need to find an apple channel
[17:31] <xangua> Rustyblade3: so get rid of it
[17:31] <islandmonkey> auronandace: Let me check
[17:31] <DJones> !alis > honvai
[17:31] <xangua> Rustyblade3: if you have no installed anything from it, software center>edit>sources>others
[17:31] <Xen> Hi, does anyone here have experience with Raid cards in an ubuntu enviroment? More specifically Vantec PCI Raid cards
[17:32] <xangua> Rustyblade3: or better use ppa-purge
[17:32] <ikonia> vantex are not a good make
[17:32] <ikonia> they are fakeraid cards
[17:32] <honvai> How to unlock ipad with ubuntu terminal?
[17:32] <xangua> where is that damn bot when you need it :/
[17:32] <ThinkT510> !raid | Xen
[17:32] <ikonia> honvai: you don't
[17:32] <karthikselva> Can any one tell me some finger print recognition software for ubuntu
[17:32] <Rustyblade3> another error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1394963/
[17:32] <islandmonkey> auronandace: Nope
[17:33] <auronandace> islandmonkey: then it isn't your settings
[17:33] <islandmonkey> Well I gathered that
[17:34] <Rustyblade3> Why is this happening, I spent 2 hours yesterday to fix this and it didn't work :(
[17:34] <auronandace> islandmonkey: the only thing i can think of is something that you installed (i only stick to the repos)
[17:34] <llutz> Rustyblade3: sudo apt-get install wine1.4
[17:34] <islandmonkey> auronandace: Well did install some updates this morning but I can't remember what they were
[17:35] <islandmonkey> Well I*
[17:35] <Rustyblade3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1394968/
[17:35] <Rustyblade3> Sigh...
[17:35] <llutz> Rustyblade3: apt-cache policy wine1.4-i386
[17:36] <ThinkT510> !ppa-purge | Rustyblade3
[17:37] <deepm> I also have problems with the packages on 12.04
[17:37] <deepm> I can't seem to make a proper update
[17:37] <deepm> I get this error
[17:37] <deepm> https://gist.github.com/72e22d7c4fb023331713
[17:37] <deepm> can anybody help?
[17:38] <Rustyblade3> wait so how do I install purge?
[17:38] <Microstar301> Hello!
[17:38] <Rustyblade3> wait nvm
[17:40] <Rustyblade3> so how will I revert to my original packages now that i have PPA-Purge
[17:40] <Rustyblade3> ubot?
[17:41] <ChristopherAlan> I'm having a problem installing ttf-mscorefonts
[17:41] <ChristopherAlan> A simple configuration screen pops up asking me to hit okay during installation but I cannot, this isn't the first time i've ran into this either
[17:41] <ChristopherAlan> here is a picture of what I'm talking about http://oi50.tinypic.com/6zbn1j.jpg
[17:41] <Rustyblade3> ubot93?
[17:41] <Guest27751> is there a way in linux to take a windows iso file and make it bootable with a usb flash drive so i can install windows on a computer with no CDrom drive???
[17:41] <DJones> Rustyblade3: ubot93 is a bot
[17:42] <Rustyblade3> o...
[17:42] <trism> ChristopherAlan: hit tab, then enter when ok is highlighted
[17:42] <Xen> Regarding my raid card, I have a raid card, the guides u sent me seem to be pointing to setting up the hard drives without a raid card.  Is this a much better option? I am just wondering if it would be better to do that, or find drivers or such for my raid card (Vantec UGT-ST320R)
[17:42] <ChristopherAlan> THANK YOU SO MUCH trism
[17:42] <Rustyblade3> So how do I revert to my original packages now that I have ppa purge?
[17:43] <ChristopherAlan> guest27751 : there is a windows USB installer now yes, I'm afraid i dont know exactly all that much about it but there is an official usb tool released from windows for creating a USB installer now,  just sayin
[17:43] <crimsonmane> Guest27751: type /join ##windows
[17:43] <crimsonmane> into chat
[17:43] <Katbuntu> hiya
[17:43] <Guest27751> ChristopherAlan, i know that but for some reason i cant get wine to work right and i am in a live ubuntu right now lol
[17:44] <DJones> Rustyblade3: Its not something I've used, but the http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html page seems to give instructions on how use the command
[17:44] <DJones> Rustyblade3: eg. sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[17:45] <Guest27751> is there another program that loads exe fils in linux other than wine ?? that is free ??
[17:45] <DJones> Rustyblade3: You'll need to find the correct info for the ppa you installed though
[17:45] <crimsonmane> Guest27751: only wine.
[17:45] <ThinkT510> Guest27751: loads exe? in what way do you mean?
[17:45] <Rustyblade3> No i wanna reset all my repos
[17:46] <Guest27751> crimsonmane, i cant seem to get wine installed at all
[17:46] <Rustyblade3> Like EVERYTHING of repos
[17:46] <ChristopherAlan> Ouch,  there is crossworks, similar to wine, infact crossworks contributes much code to wine in their favour,   But it's not free,  you could get it if your smart but I wont speculate about how,
[17:46] <Guest56448> buonasera
[17:46] <crimsonmane> it's crossover, not crossworks. and he asked for free.
[17:46] <ChristopherAlan> and I mentioned it wasn't free
[17:47] <ChristopherAlan> I had difficulty installing wine,
[17:47] <ChristopherAlan> I uninstalled it, and when I installed the front end Playonlinux which includes wine It installed properl after that.
[17:47] <VIVID> Guest27751, if you cannot install wine, i suggest trying 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[17:47] <Rustyblade3> Can anyone tell me how to reinstall ALL my repos with PPA purge
[17:47] <Guest27751> VIVID, i did that lol
[17:48] <VIVID> Guest27751, then provide some console output of your failure
[17:48] <Guest27751> ChristopherAlan, i know about that software 2 just not working right
[17:48] <ThinkT510> Rustyblade3: ppapurge removes ppas, thats all
[17:48] <crimsonmane> Rustyblade3: you can locate a fresh sources.list online and replace yours
[17:48] <Guest27751> VIVID, ok one sec
[17:49] <Rustyblade3> someone told me you could remove all ur sources and install them again using ppa purge.
[17:49] <Rustyblade3> All I really wanna do is Install Wine
[17:49] <superboot> Hi all. I'm trying to setup a scanner share over my LAN using saned and xinetd. This config works: http://sprunge.us/gTJP  But when I change use and group to saned, I can't detect the scanner remotely with scanimage -L
[17:49] <Rustyblade3> Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit
[17:49] <superboot> Although I can detect the canner localy as the saned user with the scanimage command.
[17:50] <Guest56448> !list
[17:52] <ceti331__> Can ubuntu and win8 dual boot ok
[17:52] <Max401> Rustyblade3: looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966013 there seems to be some arch problems with wine (although that was 12.04)
[17:52] <BLZbubba> ok this is annoying, ubuntu's deb mirror is choosing wallawalla.edu, which goes about 10% as fast as the default
[17:53] <BLZbubba> what is the best way to get ubuntu precise to choose the fastest mirror?
[17:53] <Max401> Rustyblade3: out of interest, can you post results of dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[17:53] <Xylon> Need help uninstalling ubuntu. Its not wubi, i made a partition. Need to uninstall reallocate the space to my windows drive and fix the start up back to windows only. A detailed guide would be useful .-. thank you
[17:54] <Rustyblade3> I get nothign
[17:54] <jwrigley> Xylon: boot up windows
[17:54] <Xylon> jwrigley: I am using windows atm, dual boot.
[17:55] <Max401> Rustyblade3: Ok, so run sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386, then sudo apt-get update
[17:55] <jwrigley> Xylon: ok,  find your windows cd
[17:55] <Rustyblade3> alrighty
[17:56] <Xylon> jwrigley: x'D thats the thing. Dont got one
[17:56] <Max401> Rustyblade3: Then the result of sudo apt-get install wine1.4 (or 1.5)?
[17:56] <jwrigley> Xylon: ok, plan B, let me just find the link
[17:57] <Xylon> jwrigley: thank you
[17:57] <Rustyblade3> IT FREGGIN WORKS OMG THANK YOU
[17:57] <Rustyblade3> I LOVE YOU MAX (No homo)
[17:57] <Rustyblade3> if u are a man that is
[17:58] <Max401> Rustyblade3: no probs. Saw your frustration yesterday so took a look around
[17:58] <Rustyblade3> THANKS
[17:58] <daxxone1> Can I ask a hardware question here?
[18:00] <crimsonmane> daxxone1: what's up
[18:00] <ThinkT510> daxxone1: if it is ubuntu related
[18:00] <Rustyblade3> Max I hope ur Good karma lvl is....
[18:00] <Rustyblade3> OVER 9000!
[18:01] <daxxone1> I got an ambient light sensor on laptop, 12.04, the fn key shortcut for it shows a trackpad with an x
[18:02] <daxxone1> on screen
[18:02] <daxxone1> anyone ever trouble shoot a light sensor?
[18:03] <livingdaylight> what is the current version of wine in ubuntu?
[18:03] <k1l> !find wine
[18:03] <livingdaylight> i can see wine 1.5. However, when I try to install it via synaptic it wants to remove VLC ?
[18:03] <k1l> livingdaylight: see the link from the bot and choose your release
[18:04] <daxxone1> I think it is a graphics card issue, as my backlight only works in 4 changing points at the top of the meter.
[18:04] <crimsonmane> livingdaylight: did you install vlc as a windows version?
[18:04] <livingdaylight> crimsonmane: windows version on Ubuntu?
[18:04] <crimsonmane> it can be done.
[18:04] <crimsonmane> if you used wine
[18:04] <livingdaylight> crimsonmane: wine is not installed here
[18:05] <livingdaylight> crimsonmane: i'm actually using uberstudent which is a ubuntu based distro. It came with vlc pre-installed. However, when I try to install wine it wants to remove VLC
[18:06] <komputes> Are there alternative meta-packages for language.support-* in 12.04?
[18:06] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: not supported here
[18:07] <newGug> I have a software raid card that might be only suitable for windows, is it possible that I installed ubuntu onto both hard drives and that GRUB is randomly choosing which one to boot to?
[18:07] <jwrigley> Xylon: Check private chat
[18:07] <DlukZA1> Hello everyone,  I need to install Postgresql-9.0 on an 10.04.4 server.  but for some reason 9.0 was deleted from the repo.  does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to get it installed?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | DlukZA1
[18:08] <daxxone1> This was similar functioning in windows before ati drivers got loaded, but I loaded a bunch at one time.
[18:08] <Vupoo> a
[18:08] <honvai> how to open ipad system?
[18:08] <DlukZA1> ActionParsnip, the problem is that 9.0 was deleted from that PPA
[18:08] <DlukZA1> it only has 9.1 and 9.2
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> honvai: use a screwdriver :)
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> DlukZA1: are they not backward compatible?
[18:09] <DJones> honvai: As I said earlier, you need to find an apple channel and ask in there
[18:09] <DlukZA1> nope
[18:09] <rotham> hey
[18:09] <DlukZA1> not when i'm doing replication form a 9.0 to a 9.1
[18:09] <TexNick> livingdaylight : you might just let it remove vlv ... then reinstall vlc
[18:09] <rotham> what shell command will search for a string in every file in a folder and subfolders?
[18:09] <DlukZA1> 2012-11-28 06:05:00 GMT DETAIL: The data directory was initialized by PostgreSQL version 9.0, which is not compatible with this version 9.1.6.
[18:09] <ThinkT510> honvai: stop asking, this is ubuntu support
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> rotham: grep -R string /path/to/search/*
[18:10] <livingdaylight> TexNick: ok, maybe. Just wondering why VLC would come into it, even, at all
[18:10] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: we don't know what your distro has changed so we can't support it
[18:10] <rotham> thanks
[18:10] <ThinkT510> !derivatives | livingdaylight
[18:11] <ania_> ubot93
[18:11] <daxxone1> So my fn key for my light sensor shows a trackpad off pop-up when I try to toggle
[18:12] <DJones> livingdaylight: Have you asked the uberstudent support channels/forums? They might know, as its not official ubuntu and has different packages, we won't know
[18:12] <gartral> random dumb question.. when installing a new graphics card (In my case nvidia) should I remove nouvue before, or after installing the binary blob?
[18:12] <livingdaylight> DJones: they don't have an irc channel. Will register and post question on forum :s
[18:12] <trism> gartral: you don't remove nouveau, it is just blacklisted when nvidia is installed
[18:14] <gartral> trism: ok, thanks
[18:18] <daxxone1> Will SuSE drivers work on ubuntu?
[18:18] <ThinkT510> daxxone1: drivers are to do with the kernel, i doubt there are suse specific drivers
[18:19] <lhavelund> daxxone1: Most of the same software will, but not all. Also, you can't install yum packages safely.
[18:19] <ThinkT510> lhavelund: not safely no
[18:20] <lhavelund> ThinkT510: And that's the point I was making.
[18:20] <yeehi> 30 GB are available for Ubuntu - I want to have separate / and /home partitions. What size should I make / ?
[18:20] <ThinkT510> lhavelund: ah sorry, misread
[18:20] <lhavelund> yeehi: I'm careful and conservative; I'd probably do 10GB /, 20gb /home
[18:20] <lhavelund> (Not counting in swap)
[18:20] <yeehi> thank you Ihavelund
[18:21] <yeehi> ah yes - I should have 2GB swap
[18:21] <lhavelund> yeehi: I haven't personally installed the last couple of releases, so I'm not sure how system disk space usage is right now, but in earlier releases, I remember being told ~7--8 / would be plenty.
[18:21] <daxxone1> ThinkT510 I got a 8560p elitebook, and HP has SuSE software for some 8560w hardware/ fingerprint scnner, web cam.
[18:22] <seednode> My 60GB install was 15GB /, 40GB /home
[18:22] <daxxone1> not safe?
[18:22] <lhavelund> daxxone1: That depends what the medium it's distributed as is.
[18:22] <lhavelund> daxxone1: If you could link me, I can have a look.
[18:22] <daxxone1> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=5071175&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=5071171&swLang=13&taskId=135&swEnvOID=2020#11360
[18:23] <daxxone1> It has different gpu packages, only thing under my device is for trackpads.
[18:23] <gartral> I have an issue with one 32-bit game, second life, on 12.10, it complains that it can't load the 32-bit libs from ia32-libs even though their installed and working
[18:24] <lhavelund> daxxone1: They seem pretty outdated... I wonder if they're compatible with current kernels.
[18:24] <lhavelund> daxxone1: Just checking the archives they provide.
[18:24] <ThinkT510> daxxone1: most likely the drivers are already in the kernel, try ubuntu and see what you need
[18:25] <lhavelund> I think what ThinkT510 proposes is very likely, too.
[18:26] <daxxone1> I tried the ati gpu hardware add on, it shows me having a different gpu than win7 did.
[18:26] <lhavelund> daxxone1: The packages for SuSE won't work, I'm afraid.
[18:27] <ThinkT510> daxxone1: do you need fglrx? what's wrong with the open source drivers used by default?
[18:27] <daxxone1> Ya, I'm just loosing on some performance and power managment
[18:28] <daxxone1> ati doesn't support this gpu with there generics packages in win7 or other OSs
[18:29] <jjgalvez__> I just bought a new laptop, and I want to put ubuntu on it (most likely xubuntu), does anyone know how I can take the existing W8 install and move it to a Virtualbox so I can use it too?
[18:29] <ThinkT510> jjgalvez__: perhaps ask in #vbox
[18:29] <daxxone1> did fglrx, still got VESA:SEYMOUR/Standard in system details
[18:30] <jjgalvez__> ThinkT510: good point I'll ask there
[18:30] <ThinkT510> daxxone1: lsmod will list what modules are currently in use
[18:30] <Rustyblade3> j
[18:31] <lhavelund> jjgalvez__: You can do a standard dualboot if you wanted.
[18:33] <jjgalvez__> I might to that if I have too, I really don't like dualboots because you can't use both at the same time. I really only need W8 for a few programs for school
[18:33] <daxxone1> video =0
[18:34]  * Sm0kEz is Away (fewd) @ 06:34:28pm
[18:34] <lhavelund> !away > Sm0kEz
[18:36] <daxxone1> or videodev? I don't see fglrx
[18:36] <matk> hello
[18:36] <matk> how do i become sudo in unbuntu desktop?
[18:36] <ThinkT510> daxxone1: then fglrx isn't being used
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> matk: sudo isn't a user
[18:36] <matk> how do i become root in unbuntu desktop?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> matk: if you are in the sudo group, you can use sudo
[18:36] <geekychirag> Hello I am on android any tips on converting ninja3 to run suburban tun
[18:36] <ThinkT510> matk: you shouldn't need to
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> matk: sudo -i     will give a root prompt
[18:37] <geekychirag> Ubuntu.    Touch prob
[18:37] <lhavelund> !root ´mat
[18:37] <lhavelund> !root | matk
[18:37] <matk> ubot93: what are you talking about?
[18:37] <ikonia> matk: he's telling you (a bot) that there is no root account enabled in ubuntu, it's part of the security model ubuntu uses
[18:38] <geekychirag> How to change ninja 3 to run ubuntu
[18:38] <ikonia> what ?
[18:38] <ikonia> ninja 3 ? change it ?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> geekychirag: what is ninja3 ?
[18:38] <geekychirag> Ninja 3 is an android phone with 1 gigahertz processor
[18:38] <matk> ok i am have an installation of ubuntu server on a USB drive. i want to plug it into a unbuntu desktop and edit the files, but i get permission denied from desktop gui??
[18:39] <daxxone1> well I kind of thought that would be the case. post-release updates wont help either?
[18:39] <ikonia> matk: so you use sudo
[18:39] <ikonia> !sudo | matk
[18:39] <matk> ok
[18:39] <matk> let me try that
[18:39] <TexNick> lol that last ubot93 post resembles a scene out of the Matrix
[18:40] <geekychirag> Look at this for micromax a57
[18:40] <matk> ikonia: didn;t work
[18:40] <matk> still same error
[18:40] <matk> can't transfer files permission denied
[18:40] <OerHeks> geekychirag, not yet, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[18:40] <geekychirag> How can I get any help from ubuntu for android phone
[18:42] <honvai> :~$ ideviceinfo
[18:42] <honvai> Entity: line 1: parser error : Start tag expected, '<' not found?
[18:42] <SamMcg> Hello?
[18:42] <OerHeks> geekychirag, not. see the url i gave you
[18:42] <SamMcg> Any one know how to uninstall Ubuntu12.10?
[18:42] <geekychirag> Thanks oerheks
[18:43] <SamMcg> Anyone?
[18:43] <ThinkT510> SamMcg: get rid of the partition(s) and overwrite the mbr (if thats where grub went)
[18:43] <SamMcg> How would I do that? pm me if you can
[18:43] <matk> same thing happens in terminal
[18:46] <SamMcg> ThinkT510 how would I do that?
[18:47] <ThinkT510> SamMcg: are you using wubi?
[18:47] <SamMcg> Yes
[18:47] <ThinkT510> SamMcg: then you uninstall it just like any other windows app
[18:47] <SamMcg> Is that all?
[18:48] <ThinkT510> SamMcg: yes, avoid wubi in the future if you want to use ubuntu seriously
[18:48] <SamMcg> I will remember that! Thanks so much! Hugs and kisses
[18:49] <honvai> How i operating usb device?
[18:49] <gsant> hi anyone with experience in noapic e nolapic kernel options ?
[18:49] <daxxone1> Is that why I got issues? wubi? It is a vm drive?
[18:50] <gsant> i ve just updated my ubuntu and it doesnt boot without the noapic option.
[18:50] <ThinkT510> daxxone1: wubi is an abomination, it is a pretend install within windows
[18:51] <gsant> if i add the noapic option it does fuck my network card
[18:51] <daxxone1> Ya, it seemed I had more flexability with mint on the cd install with my other hard drive
[18:51] <ThinkT510> daxxone1: wubi creates a file on the ntfs partition that acts like a harddrive
[18:51] <gsant> i guess it is because its is giving same irq to 2 different devices.
[18:51] <gsant> any help ?
[18:52] <daxxone1> similar to power ISO's virtual cd
[18:53] <daxxone1> Maybe I will start this clean with unetbootin
[18:55] <root____1> what screendump command used for?
[18:55] <daxxone1> will win7 disk management work to format this partition? Or wubi is needed to dumb this of the disk?
[18:55] <schultza> how do i change compiz settings in ubuntu 12.04?
[18:55] <k1l> !rootirc | root____1
[18:55] <ThinkT510> daxxone1: windows doesnt support other filesystems (ext2/3/4 etc)
[18:56] <k1l> schultza: try myunity
[18:56] <root____1> ubot93: i got it
[18:56] <k1l> schultza: you can use the ccsm, but be careful it can ruin compiz, so that it wont start
[18:56] <ThinkT510> daxxone1: use gparted from a livecd
[18:56] <sail> what screendump command used for?
[18:57] <schultza> ccsm? and will i be able to do the cube?
[18:57] <twirm> schultza, if that's all you change with ccsm you'll be fine
[18:57] <k1l> schultza: yes
[18:57] <twirm> does anyone know if MyUnity offers the option to turn on the Desktop Cube?
[18:58] <schultza> but i have to get ccsm to change that, right?
[18:58] <ThinkT510> schultza: unity wasn't meant to be used with the cube so it may or may not work
[18:58] <funkt> hi there does anyone know the command for worksapce switcher?
[18:58] <schultza> im beginning to really hate unity again.
[18:58] <h00k> funkt: you can use ctrl+alt+arrowkeys
[18:58] <daxxone1> The 35gb partition I made was done first, formatted ntfs, then loaded with wubi from win7.
[18:58] <OerHeks> sail > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/screendump.1.html
[18:58] <twirm> ThinkT510, you can change the layout of the workspaces, after you do that you should be fine!
[18:58] <ThinkT510> schultza: use another desktop then
[18:58] <funkt> I know I just want to find a keyboard shortcut i can use
[18:59] <funkt> oh yeah of course
[18:59] <twirm> schultza, check out XFCE or Cinnamon for an alternative desktop that brings back some GNOME 2 goodness
[18:59] <funkt> thanks
[18:59] <funkt> lol
[18:59] <StaNy> hey, i have some trouble configuring rsyslogd daemon
[18:59] <ThinkT510> twirm: use of ccsm with unity is cautioned here
[18:59] <schultza> i thought cinnamon wasnt as configurable as gnome2 was
[18:59] <twirm> ThinkT510, word, that's a good call :)
[18:59] <funkt> would anyone know how i change the background color on folders in 12.04
[18:59] <k1l> twirm: schultza cinnamon is not using compiz and is not having a cube
[18:59] <ThinkT510> twirm: also cinnamon isn't supported here
[18:59] <sail> OerHeks: thanx
[19:00] <StaNy> can anybody help me with rsyslogd in private please ?
[19:00] <heoyea> cube in 2012?
[19:00] <twirm> ThinkT510, is there a DE that is supported here that isn't Unity, or is it just non-XFCE, GNOME Shell, LXDE, KDE?
[19:00] <ikonia> twirm: ubuntu shipped/supplied desktops
[19:00] <ikonia> or packaged
[19:01] <schultza> which are?
[19:01] <ikonia> ones that are in the official repos
[19:01] <ThinkT510> twirm: xfce, lxde, kde, gnome-shell, enlightenment
[19:01] <honvai> what command show usb info
[19:01] <honvai> ? ̈́
[19:01] <ikonia> lsusb
[19:01] <maxmyth> I am unable to open .blend files when double clicking on them. When I right click and go to "Properties > Open With" I can not locate Blender in the list of possible applications. How can I get Blender in that list? How can I make it so when double clicking on .blend files they get opened in Blender?
[19:01] <twirm> ikonia, isn't awesomewm in the default repos?
[19:01] <StaNy> i am trying to log all messages with warn priority, except lpr or mail in a file
[19:01] <ikonia> twirm: have a look,
[19:02] <twirm> yup
[19:02] <twirm> ikonia, I'll cover that support, haha
[19:02] <ikonia> what ?
[19:02] <twirm> ikonia, AwesomeWM is in the default repo for 12.10
[19:02] <ikonia> so ?
[19:02] <ikonia> (sorry am I missing your point) ?
[19:03] <StaNy> is there someone who knows how to configure the daemon named rsyslogd ?
[19:03] <twirm> ikonia, Oh, I was just joking that I'll cover that support as I don't use any other DEs other than Cinnamon and Awesome :)
[19:04] <daxxone1> wubi added ubuntu to win7 bootloader? Since I put it on a second partition (I left it raw when I did mint as dual boot) I run wubi in win7 and uninstall, or could I remove ubuntu from win7 bootloader list and format D: partition?
[19:04] <ikonia> I see
[19:04] <honvai> what commad to open id adress folder?
[19:04] <ikonia> what ?
[19:04] <ikonia> ip address folder
[19:05] <ikonia> honvai: what are you trying to actually do ?
[19:05] <ThinkT510> ikonia: open his ipad i think
[19:05] <honvai> go to id adress
[19:05] <farid__> hi guys
[19:05] <gsant> hi guys
[19:05] <twirm> farid__, heya, need some help?
[19:05] <ikonia> honvai: what are you trying to actually do ?
[19:05] <StaNy> join #rsyslog
[19:05] <HowdyBob> Anyone know if it's possible for rsync to use check multiple directories for --ignore-existing
[19:06] <gsant> im just having problems with noapic kernel options
[19:06] <farid__> yeah how i do update ubuntu kernel with apt command?
[19:06] <ikonia> HowdyBob: you need an ignore file
[19:06] <twirm> farid__, have you run 'apt-get update'?
[19:06] <gsant> anyone know how to address these issue ?
[19:06] <HowdyBob> ikonia, I'd run a script to populate the ignore file with the directory contents?
[19:06] <farid__> i mean only update kernel
[19:06] <honvai> ikonia: open all data in usb device
[19:07] <ikonia> honvai: you need to mount the usb device
[19:07] <ikonia> honvai: the ignore file basically is a text file thats a list of files/directories to ignore
[19:07] <ikonia> honvai: sorry that was for HowdyBob
[19:07] <ikonia> HowdyBob: same format as the exclude file
[19:08] <HowdyBob> nice, thank you ikonia
[19:08] <gsant> i just performed the updates suggested and then it stopped to boot
[19:08] <gsant> so i added the "noapic" kernel option.
[19:08] <honvai> what command open usb device?
[19:09] <ikonia> honvai: you have to mount it
[19:09] <gsant> it does boot, but now my network is fucked. :/
[19:09] <gsant> any help  ?
[19:09] <ikonia> gsant: that language is unacceptable and uncalled for
[19:09] <ikonia> gsant: please moderate yourself
[19:09] <honvai> what command mount usb device?
[19:09] <gsant> ikonia: srry
[19:09] <ikonia> honvai: you treat it like a hard disk
[19:09] <funkt> I know to press alt ctrl and an arrow key to move between workspaces, but I am after creating a keyboard shortcut which when pressed will open "workspace switcher" The larger version would anyone know where i can find the command
[19:10] <honvai> what command mount usb hard disk?
[19:10] <lhavelund> !mount | honvai
[19:10] <ThinkT510> funkt: hold down the super key (windows logo)
[19:10] <heoyea> funkt: think is ctrl+e
[19:10] <ikonia> honvai: is this your ipad....are you stil talking about your ipad ?
[19:11] <gsant> anyone had similar issue with noapic ?
[19:11] <farid__> anyone can help me how i do update only ubuntu kernel with apt command?
[19:11] <ikonia> farid__: apt-get ugrade $PACKAGE_NAME
[19:11] <twirm> funkt, doesn't super + S do that?
[19:11] <funkt> good man twirm thanks! thats it!
[19:11] <heoyea> funkt: if u using unity then is super+e i believe
[19:11] <funkt> its super -s
[19:11] <twirm> funkt, awesome, glad I could be of help!
[19:12] <funkt> thank you all
[19:12] <farid__> ikonia:you mean apt-get upgrade kernel
[19:12] <ikonia> farid__: if that's the package name (it's not)
[19:12] <twirm> farid__, it's probably something closer to linux-kernel-3.x.x.x
[19:12] <twirm> farid__, try tab completion after typing linux into that command
[19:13] <farid__> ok i think i figure
[19:14] <honvai> can not find the hard disk
[19:14] <ikonia> honvai: is this your ipad....are you stil talking about your ipad ?
[19:14] <farid__> ok TNX all my problem solved
[19:14] <gsant> is it possible after an upgrade any Bios feature be messed up?
[19:14] <ikonia> gsant: no
[19:14] <farid__> and SPT twirm and ikonia
[19:14] <ThinkT510> gsant: to mess up the bios you'd need to enter it and mess it up
[19:14] <DJones> honvai: If you don't respond to the questions people are asking you, we have no idea what you're trying to do
[19:15] <Guest6188> Hey guys, I'm trying to install libreoffice from the repositories, but it's throwing a wobbly. Can anyone help? Looks like dependency problems, but when I attempt to resolve them it throws a wobbly at me. http://pastebin.com/7nzTMStH
[19:15] <twirm> farid__, glad we got you sorted out!
[19:15] <gsant> weird, because after the upgrade ubuntu doesnt boot without the noapic option ,..even by CD
[19:15] <honvai> ikonia: i speak my device
[19:15] <ThinkT510> gsant: what does the bios have to do with setting a kernel boot parameter?
[19:15] <honvai> and it is black
[19:15] <ikonia> honvai: ok - I'm going to stop talking to you now, bye
[19:15] <twirm> Guest6188, try 'apt-get install -f'
[19:16] <ikonia> honvai: I didn't ask it's colour
[19:16] <ikonia> honvai: I asked if it was your ipad - you cannot answer me, so I have no interest in helping you
[19:16] <Guest6188> Twirm: As stated, I tried it, the result is at the bottom of the pastebin
[19:16] <twirm> Guest6188, yeah, it looks like you don't have java install
[19:16] <twirm> Guest61
[19:16] <gsant> well, the APIC functionallity is a Interrupt controller, some pc doesnt support it, so in the Bios u can disable the APIC Support
[19:17] <Guest6188> matt@lounge-desktop:~$ java -version
[19:17] <Guest6188> java version "1.7.0_09"
[19:17] <Guest6188> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea7 2.3.3) (7u9-2.3.3-0ubuntu1~12.10.1)
[19:17] <Guest6188> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.2-b09, mixed mode)
[19:17] <Guest6188> matt@lounge-desktop:~$
[19:17] <FloodBot1> Guest6188: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:17] <twirm> Guest6188, You need to try to run 'apt-get install -f', just that string
[19:17] <gsant> actually if i disable it by BIOS ...i dont have to add the noapic kernel option to boot it
[19:17] <csilk> Hi, Unity is really slow on my low powered netbook. Is there something I can do to make it quicker? I know there used to be a 2D mode but that seems to have been removed in 12.10?
[19:17] <Guest6188> I have done that -f thing, the result is at the bottom of the pastebin I sent
[19:18] <gsant> but the problem is that if I add noapic option it does boot but my network stops working ..
[19:18] <DJones> csilk: You could try a different desktop environment, lxde or xfce might be quicker on a low spec machine
[19:18] <twirm> Guest6188, try 'apt-get purge libreoffice'
[19:18] <Guest6188> trying that now.
[19:18] <jwrigley> Guest6188: try creating the directories it is claiming are missing
[19:18] <twirm> Guest6188, it looks like you had it installed previously
[19:19] <twirm> jwrigley, they aren't missing, it's failing to overwrite them
[19:19] <gsant> The weirdest is that i have backtrack installed ..but it doesnt boot anymore! :(
[19:19] <csilk> DJones, I wanted to continue running out of the box defaults if at all possible?
[19:19] <gsant> without noapic option.
[19:19] <ThinkT510> gsant: backtrack isn't supported here
[19:19] <jwrigley> Guest66925: so /var/lib/libreoffice/share/prereg/ exists?
[19:20] <Guest6188> apt-get purge libreoffice is telling me the package is not installed.
[19:20] <gsant> yeah I know it is not. I just mentioned.
[19:20] <jwrigley> Guest6188: *oops, wrong guest, ^ ^
[19:21] <gsant> cause i cant boot any Linux without the noapic option.
[19:21] <ikonia> why is this a problem
[19:21] <ikonia> set noapic and move on
[19:21] <Guest6188> twirm: update: just realized I removed it earlier because it wasn't working. let me re-install.
[19:22] <gsant> its a problem cause my network doesnt work with noapic
[19:22] <gsant> well im running Ubuntu 10.10
[19:22] <ThinkT510> gsant: 10.10 is no longer supported
[19:22] <Guest6188> jwrigley: lol, k
[19:22] <gsant> i guess i should try install the latest one.
[19:23] <ikonia> gsant: how did you upgrade
[19:23] <ikonia> from what to what ?
[19:23] <gsant> ikonia: from the upgrade window proposed when you start it.
[19:23] <ikonia> so you're not longer running 10.10 then
[19:24] <ikonia> what are you actually running ?
[19:24] <Guest6188> twirm: when I run 'apt-get purge libreoffice' it just complains of unmet dependencies/
[19:24] <jwrigley> Guest6188: so /var/lib/libreoffice/share/prereg/ exists?
[19:24] <ikonia> !pm > honvai
[19:24] <StaNy> hey everyone. i want to configure rsyslogd daemon in order to log all files with warn priority, except lpr and mail in a file
[19:24] <twirm> Guest6188, but you were able to reinstall fine?
[19:24] <Jacruth> hi guys: my unity launcher leaves a shadow when it is hidden. I have updated some minutes ago my ubuntu.
[19:25] <gsant> ikonia: it still says 10.10
[19:25] <Guest6188> twirm: no, it throws the errors seen in the pastebin at me
[19:25] <ikonia> gsant: I'm asking because 10.10 is dead so there are no updates, so what has offered you an upgrade
[19:25] <twirm> Guest6188, jwrigley, check to see if /var/lib/libreoffice/share/prereg exists
[19:26] <gsant> "You are using Ubuntu 10.10
[19:26] <gsant>                 - the Maverick Meerkat - released in October 2010 and supported until April 2012.
[19:26] <gsant> 	"
[19:26] <Guest6188> twirm: doesn't appear to exist when i cd to it in terminal
[19:26] <New_kid> I wanna join linux to win AD. anyone there to help?
[19:26] <ThinkT510> !ad | New_kid
[19:27] <gsant> ikonia: weird, well anyway i guess i will just try install one supported.
[19:27] <jwrigley> Guest6188: sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/libreoffice/share/prereg
[19:28] <jwrigley> Guest6188: sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/libreoffice/program
[19:28] <Guest6188> jwrigley: doing that now. surprised though how it hasn't automated this. I've installed it on other machines from the repos fine.
[19:28] <jwrigley> Guest6188: then try uninstalling again
[19:28] <honvai> i try !mount $ !mount mount pad mount: usb devive file not foumd /etc/fstab, or /etc/mtab
[19:29] <twirm> jwrigley, do you know what causes apt to do that?
[19:29] <csilk> ubuntu 12.10 -  Unity is really slow on my low powered netbook. Is there something I can do to make it quicker? I know there used to be a 2D mode but that seems to have been removed in 12.10?
[19:29] <llutz> honvai: what is you native language?
[19:29] <gsant> anyway thak you ikonia and ThinkT510
[19:29] <soman> how to download with dependencies using 'aptitude download <package_name>' ?
[19:29] <twirm> csilk, Will you use something that isn't Unity?
[19:29] <jwrigley> twirm: some incomplete (un)install most likely
[19:30] <Guest6188> jwrigley: I can uninstall fine in synaptic, the problem is getting it to install right and correct dependencies.
[19:30] <csilk> twikz, I'd rather not
[19:30] <Guest6188> jwrigley: have always been able to uninstall it fine :)
[19:30] <jwrigley> Guest6188: don't use synaptic
[19:30] <Guest6188> jwrigley: okay.
[19:30] <twirm> Guest6188, use apt-get via the command line
[19:31] <honvai> llutz finnish. but they not help my
[19:31] <twirm> csilk, why not?
[19:31] <jwrigley> Guest6188: what twirm said
[19:31] <Guest6188> jwrigley: that is usually my first choice but there are too many individual packages to remember
[19:31] <llutz> honvai: you won't get help here either, if you don't state your real problem in readable sentences
[19:31] <twirm> Guest6188, tab completion helps a lot
[19:31] <j0bi> hello
[19:31] <Guest6188> so just 'apt-get remove openoffice'
[19:32] <j0bi> how can i extract mail from a website with ubuntu or ubuntu terminal???
[19:32] <csilk> twirm, this netbook will be used by several people whom don't have time to learn yet another UI. Unity is set up in such a way it meets their needs
[19:32] <Guest6188> twrim: or would that just remove the metapackage
[19:32] <csilk> I just need unity to not run slowly on out intel ATOM 1GB ram netbook
[19:32] <csilk> I'm surprised it is struggling on that hardware to be honest
[19:32] <twirm> Guest6188, run 'apt-get purge libreoffice'
[19:32] <csilk> *our
[19:32] <twirm> and then try reinstalling
[19:32] <jwrigley> Guest6188: the same one you tried before
[19:32] <Guest6188> twirm: oh, yeah i see now. sorry.
[19:33] <j0bi> how can i extract mail from a website with ubuntu or ubuntu terminal???
[19:33] <twirm> csilk, ATOM doesn't have a very good GPU
[19:33] <fishcooker1> i've tried to install Nvdia*x86.run on Lucid lynx
[19:33] <twirm> csilk, is there a reason you moved away from 12.04
[19:33] <twirm> csilk, it's LTS :)
[19:33] <fishcooker1> but the commandline complain about x-server still running
[19:33] <fishcooker1> how to override those?
[19:33] <csilk> twirm,  12.04 had the same unity slowness issues
[19:33] <Guest6188> twirm: now it is telling me to fix dependencies with apt-get install -f
[19:34] <csilk> I was hoping 12.10 had updates to fix this
[19:34] <ThinkT510> fishcooker1: you should stick to the repos
[19:34] <honvai> i try get all data in ipad
[19:34] <csilk> It now looks like Ubuntu doesn't work out of the box on Intel ATOM based netbooks
[19:35] <bekks> csilk: It perfectly does, here.
[19:35] <mau22> hi!
[19:35] <csilk> bekks, really? I get a lot of lag when using the unity menus
[19:35] <fishcooker1> hmmm ThinkT510.. is there a way to install it manually..
[19:35] <csilk> even the keyboard lags
[19:35] <fishcooker1> i've download the officiall driver
[19:35] <fishcooker1> ?
[19:35] <csilk> bekks,  I've got a 1GB ram net book
[19:35] <ThinkT510> fishcooker1: why?
[19:35] <jwrigley> Guest6188: did you rerun apt-get install -f ?
[19:36] <fishcooker1> the laptop offline ThinkT510
[19:36] <jwrigley> Guest6188: another paste perhaps?
[19:36] <bekks> csilk: Thats an issue of the slow graphics adapter, nothing to do with Intel ATOM.
[19:36] <csilk> bekks, any suggestions?
[19:36] <ThinkT510> fishcooker1: sorry i can't help
[19:36] <bekks> csilk: Which graphics driver do you use?
[19:36] <csilk> bekks, whatever came out of the box with the default install
[19:37] <bekks> csilk: I have no clue which hardware you actually have... :)
[19:37] <Guest6188> jwrigley: you read my mind lol, was pasting it to a pastebin just then. result of -f is here http://pastebin.com/ndXcYmX2
[19:37] <bekks> csilk: Please pastebin the output of lspci -k
[19:38] <mau22> hi. on my ubuntu /proc/kcore is 135Gb and I'm running out of space on hd... please HELP !!!!
[19:38] <csilk> bekks, pastebin.com/TPkds2Ry
[19:38] <bekks> mau22: I strongly doubt that you actually have 135GB RAM in your box. /proc is a virtual filesystem and /proc/kcore provides access to the entire RAM you have installed.
[19:38] <csilk> bekks, http://pastebin.com/TPkds2Ry
[19:39] <jwrigley> Guest6188: that's the exact same error...
[19:39] <bekks> mau22: So when looking out for space hogs, omit /dev, /proc and /sys
[19:39] <honvai> USB controller: Apple Inc. KeyLargo/Intrepid USB
[19:39] <honvai> 	Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
[19:39] <Guest6188> jwrigley: yep.
[19:40] <mau22> bekks: cheching for folder sizes (using mc)...
[19:40] <mau22> bekks: checking for folder sizes (using mc)...
[19:40] <bekks> csilk: You are using the i915 intel driver.
[19:40] <Guest6188> jwrigley: just noticed that. thought it would have been slightly different the second time
[19:40] <bekks> mau22: So omit /dev /proc /sys
[19:40] <twirm> Guest6188, awesome, so are you all set now?
[19:40] <csilk> bekks, ok, is there something I can use that would give me usable performance?
[19:41] <twirm> csilk, but it still runs Unity 2D, you can't ask a 3D desktop to run really well on underpowered hardware
[19:41] <Guest6188> twirm: well libreoffice is still not working, so no.
[19:41] <bekks> csilk: You could use another desktop environment, like xfce or lxde
[19:41] <fishcooker1> never mind ThinkT510.. it's ok
[19:41] <twirm> Guest6188, what happened after you apt-get install -f'd
[19:41] <csilk> bekks, I would prefer to stick with Unity. I don't mind all the 3D stuff being disabled though
[19:41] <fishcooker1> btw how to kill X-server permanetntly
[19:41] <fishcooker1> ?
[19:42] <csilk> it just needs to work and maintain the same layout as Unity
[19:42] <fishcooker1> im still on Lucid
[19:42] <SpecialEd> Hey guys, I am looking for a tool that will subscribe my email address to a large number of mailing lists, in the past script kiddies would do this by using tools called "List Linking" - I am trying to test a couple of webmail systems and would like to get bombarded from multiple real emails in my test bed, anyone know of a good efficient way to sign up to A LOT of email sbuscriptions with one
[19:42] <SpecialEd> click?
[19:42] <Daxter> fishcooker1: what are you trying to do? killing X will kill all running GUIs
[19:42] <csilk> twirm, I don't get why the 3D desktop is the default install option then. It hardly seems like a sound decision
[19:42] <bekks> csilk: Which isnt implemented the way you want it, since Unity relies on 3D pretty much.
[19:43] <csilk> bekks, so it's not possible to run default out of the box Ubuntu in a usable fashion on a fairly standard netbook anymore?
[19:43] <Guest6188> twirm: nothing, when i click libreoffice writer (which has no icon either) it just doesn't start.
[19:43] <mau22> bekks: I know /proc is running process image... since I only have 4Gb, how can that file be so large?
[19:43] <Slart>  /j #opengl
[19:43] <Slart> bah.. sorry
[19:43] <twirm> csilk, thus the advantage of Linux, you have a world of options! try setting up XFCE with Docky or something
[19:43] <fishcooker1> Daxter: actually i want to get command line only on Lucid desktop?
[19:43] <fishcooker1> is there any clue on grub{maybe}
[19:43] <csilk> twirm,  it's not great for a beginner to have to modify things like that
[19:43] <twirm> Guest6188, try launching it from the terminal
[19:43] <csilk> it would be nice if things just worked out of the box
[19:43] <bekks> mau22: As I said, it is a virtual filesystem. Try accessing it from a live cd, e.g. and you will notice that (when not being used), it only has a few kB.
[19:43] <csilk> rather than requiring the effort
[19:44] <twirm> csilk, I assume you are the admin on the box, why don't you set it up for them?
[19:44] <Daxter> fishcooker1: Ctrl+Alt+F1 will switch you over to commandline
[19:44] <bekks> mau22: So omit /proc /dev /sys
[19:44] <Daxter> it wotn shut X off
[19:44] <csilk> twirm, yes I am, I think you're missing the point though
[19:44] <Guest6188> twirm: yeah I just did to investigate, it says the program is missing.
[19:44] <bekks> csilk: Well, I have the same underpowered hardware like you, but I am no sticking with Unity.
[19:44] <twirm> Guest6188, Can you reboot real fast and then we can move from there?
[19:44] <csilk> twirm, not only do I now need to invest time into changing the desktop, I also have to invest time training the users or writing docs
[19:45] <Guest6188> yeah I can do that. brb then. thanks for your patience btw lol, this is taking ages.
[19:45] <SpecialEd> Hey guys, I am looking for a tool that will subscribe my email address to a large number of mailing lists, in the past script kiddies would do this by using tools called "List Linking" - I am trying to test a couple of webmail systems and would like to get bombarded from multiple real emails in my test bed, anyone know of a good efficient way to sign up to A LOT of email sbuscriptions with one
[19:45] <SpecialEd> click?
[19:45] <fishcooker1> Daxter: how to enable it from the first time.. i want to make my Lucid desktop act being server
[19:45] <fishcooker1> command line only .. how to?
[19:45] <bekks> csilk: All you have to to is to just install xubuntu-desktop and relogin. Not that much time wasted.
[19:46] <twirm> csilk, just see it as a lesson to look for the lowest common denominator in hardware and how you're decisions effect it.
[19:46] <csilk> bekks, when our admin staff cost £500 per day to hire and we have a LOT of default settings applied to Unity that our staff use. That becomes expensive
[19:46] <bekks> csilk: I believe you are able to run a single command on your own, as well as relogin.
[19:46] <csilk> twirm,  your attitude is not aligned with that of people with real work to do. As a hobbyist, I have no issues doing this. From a business stand point, I do
[19:47] <twirm> csilk, it seems like you got dogged by your IT guys, check your direct messages
[19:47] <bekks> csilk: And all those Unity settings are irrelevant on non-Unity.
[19:48] <matt__> twrim: it's guest6188. i'm back.
[19:48] <csilk> bekks, so are you going to show my users where to access the network share shortcuts now?
[19:48] <mau22> bekks: i'll try booting from live cd... thanks :-)
[19:48] <csilk> or all the other shortcuts they use everyday?
[19:48] <matt__> *twirm ^
[19:48] <bekks> csilk: We3 are talking about YOURSELF only. There was no point mentioned until now where other users would have been involved.
[19:48] <Elshar> Isn't there a unbuntu-like distro that still uses gnome2?
[19:48] <jpds> csilk: Wow, for that price, why not get a support contract with Canonical instead?
[19:49] <xangua> Elshar: latest ubuntu uses gnome 3.6
[19:49] <fishcooker1> Lucid Elshar
[19:49] <xangua> Elshar: gnome2 is no longer maintained
[19:49] <jpds> Elshar: Why would someone carry on using dead software?
[19:49] <csilk> bekks, basically. I need to get these netbooks working without a lot of lag. Since the unity upgrade they have become unusable. I'm looking for a way to keep the desktop but make it work at a reasonable pave without incurring the costs related to changing the desktop
[19:50] <csilk> *pace
[19:50] <twirm> matt__, hey, sorry
[19:50] <Elshar> Because it worked? :)
[19:50] <twirm> matt__, have you tried reinstalling yet?
[19:50] <matt__> twirm: will try that now
[19:51] <matt__> twirm: using purge method again?
[19:51] <twirm> matt__, nah, just try apt-get install libreoffice
[19:52] <fredm> Hello Ubuntu, when I set the All Settings -> Brightness to the minimum, and a reboot the brightness level is not saved, is there a fix about this topic ? how can I do ?
[19:52] <matt__> twirm: telling me to fix dependencies again.
[19:53]  * Ubuser Peja
[19:53]  * Ubuser Aleksandar 
[19:53] <Ansikt> How do I add an index, or change page numbers on a pdf?
[19:54] <jpds> csilk: https://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=667
[19:54] <jpds> Ansikt: You can't.
[19:54]  * Ubuser mir Peja
[19:54] <jpds> !en | Ubuser
[19:55] <Arash> hello ;)
[19:55] <Ansikt> jpds:  Seriously?  I can break them up into images and rebuild a pdf from them though.  Is there a foss tool for creating pdfs with index?
[19:55] <csilk> jpds, thanks for the complete misunderstanding
[19:55] <Ansikt> Or a python/perl library?
[19:55] <csilk> if Ubuntu support could fix our issues we would have thrown money at it already
[19:55] <jpds> Ansikt: Oh, you can create PDFs just fine, editing them directly --- different question.
[19:55] <jrib> Ansikt: see if pdftk does it...
[19:55] <csilk> We're likely just going to migrate to something that doesn't do this much damage every eyar
[19:55] <csilk> *year
[19:56] <ania_> i bet you did not spend a 1$ for ubuntu so far...
[19:56] <jpds> csilk: And they can't for what reason?
[19:56] <Arash> I have a question , how can I upgrade my 12.04 to 12.10 considering I have no upgrade option on my update manager ?
[19:56] <Ansikt> jrib:  I tried pdftk, didn't see the option.
[19:56] <csilk> jpds, because unity doesn't run on this hardware anymore
[19:56] <csilk> not very well anyway
[19:56] <jrib> csilk: why not just stick with the LTS releases if you want more stability?
[19:57] <jrib> Ansikt: ok
[19:57] <jerry_l> hello room.
[19:57] <csilk> jrib, the lts version was worse
[19:57] <jpds> csilk: Then I imagine nothing else does either.
[19:57] <csilk> the upgrade to the last lts version is what caused this
[19:57] <mickster04> csilk: use lubuntu
[19:57] <Ansikt> All the pdf tools I looked at had woefully bad documentation. I know, I know, the onus is on the community for documentation, but it's still rather difficult to find a tool which has the functionality I desire in the first place
[19:57]  * Ansikt sighs
[19:57] <twirm> mickster04, he doesn't want a non-unity interface
[19:57] <Arash> *any answers?
[19:58] <Ansikt> Arash:
[19:58] <jerry_l> i am downloading clonezilla x86, x64, i586 and want to make a grub CD with these three clonezillas. is it like:
[19:58] <csilk> jesus, thanks guys. Just drop a new desktop on us, force us to retrain our workforce, modify our shortcut config spend hundreds of hours on support then tell us to change our desktop again
[19:58] <csilk> real nice
[19:58] <ania_> LTS rules i dont bother anymore to fight with distro every 6 moths :P....
[19:58] <jpds> csilk: Hey.
[19:58] <mickster04> twirm: but he wants a normal desktop?
[19:58] <jpds> csilk: GNOME 2 was abanonded by the GNOME people.
[19:58] <twirm> mickster04, yeah, on ATOM hardware
[19:58] <ania_> what happend to bot saying that this is ubuntu support channel not a chit chat
[19:58] <jpds> csilk: What to move everyone to GNOME3?
[19:58] <jpds> csilk: Want*
[19:58] <Ansikt> Arash:  Backup everything you have saved to your computer, then go to the terminal and at the prompt type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[19:58] <csilk> jpds, in stead we got the newer gnome, which actually works on this hardware
[19:58] <twirm> Arash, ^^
[19:58] <twirm> haha
[19:59] <csilk> Gnome 3 is fine
[19:59] <csilk> no performance issues at all on Intel ATOM
[19:59] <gordonjcp> csilk: if Gnome 3 works, Unity will work
[19:59] <jpds> csilk: I bet you haven't even talked to Canonical support.
[19:59] <xangua> csilk: tried to force the 'new 2d' ¿ http://askubuntu.com/questions/197771/how-do-i-enable-llvmpipe-rendering-in-unity
[19:59] <csilk> xangua, thanks, that looks interesting!
[19:59] <twirm> xangua, nice!
[20:00] <jerry_l> load the isos and make a folder for each x86,i586,x64 and copy to thumb drive, run grub, edit the menulst to sdb to sda and burn cd?
[20:00] <jpds> Arash: What you have to do is edit: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
 done that , didn't work
[20:00] <Arash> now Jpds , trying that
[20:01] <kpwn> hi
[20:01] <Lorenzino> buona sera a tutti
[20:01] <Jacruth> My ubuntu doesn't seem to save the monitor configuration (it's resolution).
[20:01] <twirm> matt_, are you getting the exact same thing you were getting in your pastebin?
[20:02] <Lorenzino> !list.>
[20:02] <Elshar> ciao, Lorenzino :)
[20:02] <Jacruth> Is there any way to fix it?
[20:03] <twirm> Jacruth, are you using Display to change your prefs?
[20:03] <matt__> twirm: I can't find the link now but it looks very similar so I would presume so yeah.
[20:04] <twirm> http://pastebin.com/7nzTMStH
[20:04] <Jacruth> what do you mean, twirm, I'm using Preferences -> Monitor Settings.
[20:04] <twirm> matt__, I think that's yours
[20:05] <twirm> Jacruth, what version are you using?
[20:05] <Arash> another question
[20:05] <Arash> do I need to upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 ?!
[20:05] <ThinkT510> !manual | New_kid
[20:05] <Jacruth> twirm, 12.10
[20:05] <jpds> Arash: No.
[20:05] <jpds> Arash: Up to you what you run.
[20:05] <Arash> thanks jpds
[20:05] <ania_> Arash: stay with 12.04 for 2 yers
[20:05] <twirm> Arash, 12.04 is an LTS, it will be stable for much longer
[20:05] <matt__> twirm: yeah this is mine, has the other log pasted at the bottom too
[20:05] <Arash> :D I will thanks guys
[20:06] <Jacruth> Is there any way to downgrade from 12.10 to 12.04? xDDDDD
[20:06] <twirm> Jacruth, you should have a 'Displays' option you can launch from your dash
[20:07] <twirm> Jacruth, backup all of your data and fresh install 12.04 :p
[20:07] <Jacruth>  :)
[20:07] <Jacruth> I'll try better to fix the monitor issue
[20:07] <twirm> Jacruth, do you see 'Diplays'?
[20:07] <gustav__> Ubuntu is built with a Windows philosophy, it seems. Reboot fixes most things.
[20:07] <Jacruth> maybe
[20:08] <matt__> twirm: and it's the same error
[20:08] <twirm> matt__, are you getting the exact same output as before? I don't see an update
[20:08] <twirm> matt__, haha, cool
[20:08] <honvai> $ bus 001
[20:08] <honvai> DEBUG: Log opened
[20:08] <honvai> ERROR: Usage:
[20:08] <honvai> ERROR: bus [-d module]... [-m module]...[-f conf_file]
[20:08] <Jacruth> wait a second twirm, I'm doing a screenshot
[20:10] <twirm> matt_, so it's still telling you that those dirs don't exist?
[20:10] <Jacruth> Is this one, twirm? http://i.imgur.com/7hvrF.png
[20:10] <FullRagnarock> hey everyone
[20:10] <twirm> Jacruth, nope, what DE is this?
[20:10] <Jacruth> What does DE mean?
[20:11] <Katbuntu> Desktop environment
[20:11] <Jacruth> Desktop environment?
[20:11] <twirm> Jacruth, desktop
[20:11] <twirm> Jacruth, is this LXDE?
[20:11] <Jacruth> It is LXDE, because Gnome is running extremelly slow, the launcher leaves a shadow when hidden and the resolution is wrong
[20:12] <shallowcuts> noob problem, but wifi works on windows, but not ubuntu....any ideas?
[20:12] <twirm> Jacruth, I don't much about LXDE. I can give you some help with XFCE though :)
[20:12] <ania_> anyone here can share expirience of having linux on arm processor?
[20:12] <Jacruth> and what about gnome, twirm :D
[20:13] <matt__> shallowcuts: drivers?
[20:13] <twirm> shallowcuts, plug an ethernet cable into your device and then check for drivers
[20:13] <gordonjcp> ania_: it works pretty well
[20:13] <shallowcuts> i tried to install wiindows drivers thru, but it said none listed
[20:13] <shallowcuts> im connected to ethernet now
[20:14] <heladocaliente> Anyone know how to add a cursor effect on  mouse click? (for screencasting)
[20:14] <jwrigley> matt__, you still suffering the install failure
[20:14] <shallowcuts> how do i check for drivers?
[20:14] <jwrigley> matt__, ?
[20:14] <twirm> shallowcuts, okay, go to System settings > Software Sources > Additional Drivers
[20:14] <matt__> shallowcuts: try under 'additional drivers' and see if there are any listed
[20:14] <matt__> jwrigley: yeah, I am.
[20:15] <twirm> matt__, do you still have those directories missing?
[20:15] <jwrigley> matt__: sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/libreoffice/share/prereg
[20:15] <jwrigley> matt__: sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/libreoffice/program/
[20:15] <twirm> Jacruth, gnome 3?
[20:15] <jwrigley> matt__: sudo apt-get install -f
[20:15] <Jacruth> I think it is 4
[20:15] <Jacruth> but anyways, I'm installing (again) Xfce
[20:15] <Jacruth> so I'll give it a new try
[20:15] <shallowcuts> it says none listed
[20:16] <twirm> shallowcuts, do you have a hardware switch to turn off / on networking such as Bluetooth, wifi?
[20:16] <shallowcuts> yeah, fn+alt+f2
[20:17] <twirm> Jacruth, From my experience XFCE is much more stable. Try install it via xubuntu-desktop
[20:17] <twirm> shallowcuts, try turning it on / off
[20:17] <Jacruth> let me change the environment
[20:17] <shallowcuts> ok...off
[20:18] <twirm> shallowcuts, kk, turn it back on and see if you can see any networks
[20:18] <twirm> shallowcuts, what did you try to install and how did you try to install it?
[20:18] <jwrigley> matt__: probably that is not the entire solution, but it should lead us closer to the real error
[20:18] <shallowcuts> my roomate hard reset the router. now it works for windows, btu now ubuntu
[20:19] <matt__> tiwrm, jwrigley: same problems, entire installtion scenatio here http://pastebin.com/39LsTAhq
[20:19] <shallowcuts> password works 4 windows
[20:19] <matt__> *installation scenario
[20:19] <twirm> oh, so are you just having problems accessing the wifi?
[20:19] <shallowcuts> right...sorry
[20:19] <Jacruth> I'm back, twirm. But I have also the resolution issue in Xfce
[20:19] <twirm> shallowcuts, do you know what type of password encryption your roomate used on the router?
[20:20] <shallowcuts> wpa
[20:20] <twirm> Jacruth, have you always had this resolution issue, or is it new with 12.10?
[20:20] <Jacruth> new in 12.10
[20:20] <twirm> shallowcuts, are you selecting that while trying to enter the password into your wireless device?
[20:20] <jwrigley> matt__: sudo rm -rf /var/lib/libreoffice
[20:21]  * twirm sigh
[20:21] <twirm> Jacruth, alright. Have you tried changing your resolution under XFCE yet?
[20:21] <Ubuser> I need a help about how to make/get ubot ?
[20:21] <matt__> jwrigley: ok, and now try to fix dependencies again?
[20:21] <jwrigley> matt__: yep: sudo apt-get install -f
[20:22] <shallowcuts> all it offers is WEP
[20:22] <twirm> jwrigley, this time it'll do it :)
[20:22] <Jacruth> twirm, Menu -> Coniguration -> Monitor Settings?
[20:22] <twirm> errr, I'm not on a device that I can check right now, but I'd assume that would be right
[20:22] <matt__> jwrigley: exactly same thing.
[20:22] <StaNy> hello. does someone know how to write a script which archive files in a folder without root directory and without compression and it will store them in the archive used as parameter. and that archive should be encrypted using aes with a pass
[20:23] <Admc`> hello
[20:23] <ikonia> StaNy: sounds reasonable, the guys in #bash should be able to help you
[20:23] <twirm> shallowcuts, are you running 12.04+?
[20:23] <shallowcuts> yeah
[20:23] <StaNy> ok, thx
[20:23] <Katbuntu> Bbye
[20:23] <Jacruth> twirm, changed, but I think It will be wrong if I restart the system.
[20:23] <jwrigley> matt__: you reckon we could go private, speed up the paste/run process?
[20:23] <matt__> jwrigley: sure.
[20:24] <twirm> Jacruth, can you give it a shot?
[20:24] <Admc`> is alsa in ubuntu compiled with dmix support?
[20:24] <Jacruth> twirm, now or when I restart it?
[20:25] <twirm> Jacruth, whenever works for you!
[20:26] <Karlo_> Is it possible to export a Linux directory so that it can be mounted by another system on the same LAN?
[20:26] <giaco> Getting ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/cmsg_nxthdr.c: No such file or directory at runtime when trying to use CMSG_NXTHDR macro on ubuntu 12.10...  Any ideas?
[20:26] <twirm> shallowcuts, okay, go to the network app indicator 'Edit connections' > 'wireless' > $your_wifi >  'edit' > 'wireless security'
[20:26] <Jacruth> twirm, this? http://i.imgur.com/mbijT.png
[20:27] <shallowcuts> ok...done
[20:27] <Admc`> can someone help me with sound config? I can't get dmix working
[20:27] <twirm> shallowcuts, is that working?
[20:27] <shallowcuts> it just give "none" or "WEP"
[20:27] <twirm> hmmm
[20:27] <twirm> shallowcuts, I don't know why that would be
[20:28] <twirm> Jacruth, is this after a restart? Does this work for you?
[20:28] <shallowcuts> any advice on what to do next?
[20:28] <honvai> what command show usb device data
[20:28] <Jacruth> it is not, twirm , rebooting now!
[20:28] <honvai> ?
[20:29] <twirm> shallowcuts, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs dig through those docs
[20:29] <shallowcuts> right on....thx
[20:29] <OerHeks> honvai, you asked before, didn't you ? lsusb
[20:30] <HondUSA> ey everybody - I need some help with Plex Media Server and external harddrives - I can't get plex to recognize folders on the external drive - when I check the drive's properties I can't change any permissions - ANY IDEAS?
[20:30] <twirm> shallowcuts, try posting this to AskUbuntu. it may be a bug
[20:30] <ikonia> HondUSA: is the drive NTFS ?
[20:30] <ikonia> or FAT ?
[20:30] <shallowcuts> will do...thx
[20:30] <HondUSA> NTFS
[20:30] <ikonia> HondUSA: there you go then
[20:30] <ikonia> HondUSA: that's why you can't change the properties
[20:31] <HondUSA> right - NTFS - can I change them BEFORE i mount/format?
[20:31] <xxiao> ubuntu 12.04 php does not have sqlite3-pdo compiled in, anyway I can get it other then rebuilding php from source?
[20:31] <xxiao> other than
[20:31] <ikonia> HondUSA: you can't change ntfs - at all
[20:31] <HondUSA> But i CAN change fat32?
[20:32] <ikonia> HondUSA: no, not really
[20:32] <HondUSA> i want to use this drive to store/backup media and stream it using PLEX
[20:32] <ikonia> HondUSA: it doesn't support things like permissions
[20:33] <HondUSA> ok - the plex media server can stream files on my home folder - how can i do this with an external HD?
[20:33] <ikonia> use ext4 file system
[20:33] <ikonia> or any linux supported file system
[20:34] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: you would have to mount the external filesystem to a location in your home folder, then you have to set permissions recursively on your home folder so plex can use it and search sub-folders
[20:34] <honvai> command lsdev does not report ohci_hcd:usb1 port
[20:35] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - im a bit new - how would i mount an external drive to my home folder?
[20:35] <Karlo_> Is it possible to export a Linux directory so that it can be mounted by another system on the same LAN?  Currently the LAN includes a Windows system which is exporting a directory that both Linux systems mount (SMB), but that doesn't seem like the best way to do things.
[20:35] <ikonia> HondUSA: why do you want to use your home folder
[20:36] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: when you mount a drive manually, you specify where you want it mounted.
[20:36] <OerHeks> HondUSA, the plex forum says, do not mount ntfs in your homefolder, but to /media/  > http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/topic/50286-ubuntu-ntfs-formatted-hdd-mounting-permissions/
[20:36] <crimsonmane> ikonia: because then it flows as plex scans his home folder
[20:36] <OerHeks> crimsonmane +1
[20:36] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: yeah it can't be ntfs
[20:36] <ikonia> crimsonmane: so simpley for a recursive search, that' it
[20:36] <crimsonmane> yup
[20:36] <crimsonmane> now there's another way, which is mount it where ever... and just add that to your library in plex
[20:37] <ikonia> Karlo_: why does that seem a bad way
[20:37] <HondUSA> i guess i dont care how its done - im just trying to find the best way to do it
[20:37] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - so ext4 or fat32 is my best choice when i format?
[20:38] <crimsonmane> there's no best way. just what way you select.
[20:38] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: ext3 or ext4
[20:38] <lauratika> for a very strange reason ubuntu sound setting volume slide show more then 100 % some knows why is this...
[20:38] <Karlo_> ikonia: The Windows system is old and of questionable stability -- using it as the shared directory server is almost all that I use it for.  And it doesn't have as much space as I'd like; that system's disk is rather full.
[20:38] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - ok - so ill format to ext3 or ext4, then set the permissions?
[20:39] <ania_> ext4
[20:39] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: you might get lucky, as i did, and plex didn't need any additional permission setting performed
[20:39] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - hows that?
[20:39] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: now, you have to put this drive into your fstab too if you want it mounted automagically
[20:39] <crimsonmane> and to the same spot. otherwise you could end up with having to reset permissions on it every boot
[20:40] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - ok, but first id format to ext4?
[20:40] <crimsonmane> mhmm
[20:40] <crimsonmane> you will lose all data on the disk
[20:40] <crimsonmane> fyi
[20:41] <HondUSA> im just testing on a flash drive for now
[20:41] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - but thanks :)
[20:41] <crimsonmane> np
[20:41] <crimsonmane> best of luck to you
[20:41] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - are we sure fat32 wont work - id like to move some files from my mac as well...
[20:42] <bekks> HondUSA: We are sure, yes.
[20:42] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: wait
[20:42] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - ok
[20:42] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: why not use the mac as the plex server?
[20:42] <crimsonmane> (didnt know you had one)
[20:43] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - its easier, i know - but its a laptop and i dont want it running all the time
[20:43] <crimsonmane> oh i see. well it's up to you to combine your collections into one spot and get set up. take it one logical step at a time.
[20:43] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - i can leave this ubuntu sony vaio running and im ok with htat
[20:44] <Karlo_> What *is* considered the "best" way to share files between two machines on the same LAN?
[20:44] <bekks> There is no best way.
[20:44] <phy1729> depends on need
[20:44] <bekks> Karlo_: Do you have two Ubuntu computers?
[20:44] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - right - were setting up an ubuntu laptop/desktop dual display in the office
[20:44] <crimsonmane> that's really cool
[20:45] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: if you have HD content then you need wireless N, or hard-wire to the router
[20:45] <HondUSA> crimsonmane -thanks - im formatting this thumb drive now -
[20:45] <aethelrick> Karlo_:  If you have windows osx and Linux all on the an then go for samba
[20:45] <Karlo_> bekks: Currently one working RedHat and one busted Ubuntu, getting a new Ubuntu soon.
[20:45] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - correct - taken care of
[20:45] <aethelrick> *lan
[20:45] <Karlo_> The Windows machine is running Windows 2000.
[20:46] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - formatted drive - now i change permissions yes?
[20:46] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: you only mess with permissions IF plex has trouble autoscanning
[20:47] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - ok - but i cant even create a folder on the thumb drive now - the owner is ROOT
[20:47] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: yup then you need to chmod it
[20:48] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - thats where im a noob
[20:48] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - im guessing a terminal command...
[20:48] <crimsonmane> "man chmod" in a terminal
[20:48] <crimsonmane> see i dont do much chmod or anything much ...
[20:49] <Karlo_> HondUSA, chmod MODE FILE(s), where MODE can be either numeric like 644 or symbolic like +r.
[20:50] <HondUSA> karlo - im sorry can you rephrase that for an ubuntu baby?
[20:50] <crimsonmane> use 777 for that flash drive
[20:50] <funkt> hi there do you know if there is anyway I can see a memory usage graph like on the old ubuntu versions?
[20:51] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - ok so "man chmod 777"
[20:51] <Karlo_> No, don't use "man" and "777" together.
[20:51] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: man is a manual command that teaches you chmo
[20:51] <crimsonmane> d
[20:51] <HondUSA> right
[20:51] <Karlo_> "man chmod" will how you the manual, which tells you how to use it.
[20:51] <crimsonmane> we need to see where your flash drive is
[20:51] <Karlo_> "chmod 777 DIRECTORYNAME" will make the directory read-write-search'able to everybody.
[20:51] <HondUSA> right so - sudo df?
[20:51] <crimsonmane> sudo fdisk -l
[20:51] <crimsonmane> or that
[20:52] <Karlo_> The 777 is in octal, btw; all nine bits are set.  "chmod a+rwx DIRECTORYNAME" is the symbolic equivalent.
[20:53] <crimsonmane> Karlo_: for a flash drive do you agree that it's ok to set it 777?
[20:53] <Karlo_> crimsonmane: Yes, that should be fine.
[20:53] <HondUSA> flash drive or usb external drive?
[20:53] <HondUSA> 250gb gdrive?
[20:53] <crimsonmane> doesn't matter really.
[20:54] <HondUSA> ok
[20:54] <crimsonmane> you're gonna put it on your mac to download those files
[20:55] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - no i have files on the ubuntu book (movies) and home vids on the macbook - all need to be backed up on the external drive and streamed through plex
[20:55] <crimsonmane> that's what i meant - you're gonna put the usb drive on the mac to get those files
[20:55] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - maybe i misunderstood you...
[20:55] <HondUSA> correct
[20:55]  * crimsonmane doesn't always phrase things the best
[20:56] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - i appreciate the help - so now i have my thumb drive (the test) formatted to ext4...
[20:57] <HondUSA> and in terminal i see where its mounted
[20:57] <jwrigley> twirm, turned out matt__ had a conflicting package installed, that apt-get somehow didn't know to remove
[20:57] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: you can unmount it (umount is the command) and remount it literally anywhere in the filesystem that you want.
[20:57] <aeos> Hi, I made a symbolic link for a file, but when I do ls -l it doesnt show it as a symbolic link. Is there another way to see the symbolic link?
[20:57] <jwrigley> twirm, ran dpkg -r openoffice.org-debian-menus, and apt-get install -f completed just fine
[20:58] <bekks> aeos: What was the command you issued to create the symlink?
[20:58] <crimsonmane> aeos: it shows as a symlink with the letter S in the permissions area...
[20:58] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - karlo - ok, i do that in terminal?
[20:59] <crimsonmane> yes. but at this point HondUSA i'm being more vague for two reasons. one is to get you to research the commands which will help you retain them better, and two i don't do clever stuff that we're doing with your system :)
[20:59] <HondUSA> haha - ok i get it
[20:59] <aeos> to be perfectly honost I am not sure if I made it a hard link or soft link
[21:00] <bekks> aeos: What was the command you issued to create the symlink?
[21:00] <HondUSA> ive just been working on this for a while and i dont want to loose another day googling and reading through forums
[21:00] <crimsonmane> aeos: a hard link will show with an H or L i think at the front of the permissions list
[21:00] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: ok i understand.
[21:00] <HondUSA> my wife is losing patience ;)
[21:01] <crimsonmane> if she's not gonna be patient then none of this is ever gonna work. can't rush things.
[21:02] <HondUSA> ha - weird - when  try to unmount it said - no file/directory
[21:02] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: "umount /path/to/drive" like /dev/sda or whatever it is
[21:02] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: maybe you never mounted it
[21:02] <crimsonmane> you can't format something that is mounted, fyi
[21:03] <aeos> there are no characters infront of the files permissions list. its just the usual dash
[21:03] <HondUSA> i see its mounted - its got a super long name - f46281cc-eb3e-4f8d-b1bb-8d43e9cb2043
[21:03] <ikonia> you're making this very hard
[21:03] <HondUSA> i unmounted - used gparted to format - and here i am
[21:03] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: then you haven't mounted it yet
[21:04] <Wurlitzer> Q:  Is there a channel on this node which will answer questions about setting up a home network??  Thanks
[21:04] <ikonia> HondUSA: can you not just make this simple,
[21:04] <ikonia> Wurlitzer: ##networking
[21:04] <Wurlitzer> Thank You!
[21:04] <crimsonmane> ikonia: join us please... i'm no pro at the mounting stuff
[21:04] <Nvveen> Hi all; Unity crashed when I was upgrading to 12.10 and now my boot hangs after running the bootscripts without an error. I tried chrooting into the installation and reinstaling at least the kernel, but it didn't help. Anyone know how I can repair my installation without reinstallation?
[21:04] <ikonia> HondUSA: put all your data on the external drive and just mount it under /media/data
[21:04] <ikonia> HondUSA: instead of trying to mount under your home
[21:05] <crimsonmane> ikonia: you're missing one of the beautiful reasons you can mount to anywhere in the filesystem.
[21:05] <twirm> jwrigley, haha, openoffice has conflicting dependencies with libreoffice?
[21:06] <ikonia> crimsonmane: what ?
[21:06] <OerHeks> crimsonmane, i gave an URL wich explains why plex does not see a hdd mounted under /home/ ....
[21:06] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - ikonia - I know im probably frustrating you both
[21:06] <crimsonmane> OerHeks: thanks i'll give it a read.
[21:07] <crimsonmane> where's the link?
[21:07] <jwrigley> twirm, apparently so..
[21:07] <anon_> Can anybody see anything wrong with this script? http://pastebin.ca/2257614
[21:07] <ikonia> HondUSA: not frustrating me, I'm just curious as to why you're adding a level of complexity that's not required
[21:07] <OerHeks> http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/topic/50286-ubuntu-ntfs-formatted-hdd-mounting-permissions/
[21:07] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - ikonia - ive been on this path for a few days now and ive read a few forums where people have had these same issues
[21:07] <ive> HondUSA: i've not been on this path
[21:07] <twirm> jwrigley, good to know, I guess
[21:07] <ikonia> HondUSA: ok, so why do something that you know people are having problems with
[21:07] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: i dont honestly know what issue you're having. we're just walking you through formatting and mounting, so far
[21:08] <ThinkT510> crimsonmane: /mnt/ and /media/ are the most logical places
[21:08] <ikonia> HondUSA: external disk, let it automount in /media, point your media application at it
[21:08] <ikonia> simple
[21:08] <ThinkT510> anon_: #bash might help
[21:08] <rex> ikonia: +1
[21:09] <HondUSA> ok i see its mounted in /media...
[21:09] <anon_> ThinkT510, already in bash
[21:09] <Guest89041> hi all
[21:09] <twirm> Guest89041, heya, need some help?
[21:09] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: now load it up with your media files.
[21:09] <ThinkT510> anon_: then wait for a response there
[21:10] <ikonia> twirm: come on, please stop jumping on people, they will ask for help if they need it
[21:10] <wlosio> Hello, anyone know when Paysafecard were avaible in Ubuntu Software/Music Center?
[21:10] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - ikonia - alright ill test one out - and ill be back to bug you in a bit
[21:10] <crimsonmane> ok
[21:10] <Virunga> Hi, i cannot understand how to use the + with the -exec option of the find command, in this command find . -name 'win32*' -prune -o -name '*\.h' -print -exec cp {} ../headers +     Could you help me, please?
[21:10] <bichonfrise74> i'm building package on 12.04 which depends on "gs" package, but not sure where to find it.
[21:11] <bichonfrise74> the "gs" package is ghostscript which is available in 10.04
[21:11] <bichonfrise74> but in 12.04, it was now called ghostscript.
[21:11] <bichonfrise74> how do I tell pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy not to worry about the gs package?
[21:11] <crimsonmane> Virunga: you need '{}' not {}
[21:12] <Virunga> crimsonmane: the problem persists.
[21:12] <Karlo_> Virunga: What's the failure mode?
[21:13] <Virunga> Karlo_: find: missing argument to `-exec'
[21:13] <crimsonmane> Virunga: 'win32*' should be win32*
[21:13] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - ikonia - oh right, cant add media to ext4 formatted thumb drive- "Permission denied" - i dont have the owner permissions - can i format this in GParted so that im the owner?
[21:13] <crimsonmane> because you need that * to expand and it won't under single quotes
[21:13] <Karlo_> Virunga: I'm not familiar with '+' -- older implementations used ';' as the terminator; what does '+' do differently?
[21:13] <Virunga> If take off the + all work, but i want to take advantage of that feature.
[21:14] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: to be the owner, "sudo chmod 777 /media/whateveritis
[21:14] <Virunga> Karlo_: instead of calling cp for each input, it's called once with all results.
[21:14] <Karlo_> Oh.  Why not just use xargs instead, then?
[21:14] <guntbert> crimsonmane: that doesn't make him owner!
[21:14] <crimsonmane> chown
[21:14] <SuperCatFrog> hi - i've just got a new Asus G210 nvidia graphics card and I'm trying to set up hdmi audio in kubuntu 12.10, but I can only get sound when I have it set to use a stereo output. I can see the equaliser in paman going crazy when I use an 5.1 output but I can't hear anything. Any idas?
[21:14] <Senix> ---
[21:15] <crimsonmane> der sry
[21:15] <guntbert> crimsonmane: and NOT 777 without proper explanation please
[21:15] <Virunga> Karlo_: i wanted to learn to use this.
[21:15] <Karlo_> I think this should work:  find . -name 'win32*' -prune -o -name '*.h' -print0 | xargs -0 cp -t ../headers
[21:15]  * crimsonmane is getting tired
[21:15] <crimsonmane> guntbert: we talked about 777 earlier
[21:15] <fishcooker> The following packages have unmet dependencies:   libsdl1.2-dev: Depends: libpulse-dev but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
[21:16] <Nvveen> Does anyone know how I can recover an installation in Ubuntu without reinstalling the entire distro?
[21:16] <guntbert> crimsonmane: sorry, I just came in (and jumped on you :-))
[21:16] <gordonjcp> kids these days just don't know octal
[21:16] <gordonjcp> Nvveen: depends what you did to it
[21:16] <crimsonmane> guntbert: rightfully done, methinks.
[21:16] <bekks> Nvveen: What is the actual problem you are experiencing?
[21:16] <Virunga> Karlo_: if i won't put it together i'll use that command, thanks.
[21:18] <Karlo_> Virunga: Btw, '.' isn't special in a file name, so I removed the backslash in front of it.
[21:18] <Virunga> Ok ;)
[21:18] <trism> fishcooker: what is: apt-cache policy libsdl1.2-dev libpulse-dev;
[21:18] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - OH SNAP! i can create a folder and put data on the thumb drive - thanks
[21:18] <crimsonmane> hond :)
[21:19] <crimsonmane> now point plex to it
[21:19] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - and now we think plex will be able to recognize this thumb drive? ok ill try that and be back        *can my mac read and write files to this ext4 thumb drive?
[21:20] <Nvveen> bekks, Unity crashed while installing 12.10 from 12.04, so I had to reboot. It now hangs at boot without giving an error message just after some bootscripts
[21:20] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: should be able to
[21:21] <fishcooker> trism: this is it.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1395473/
[21:21] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - word - i realy appreciate the help and patience - ill be back in a bit
[21:22] <VIVID> whoa, compiz sru package is really snappy compared to the official quantal package
[21:22] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[21:23] <Pummpy1> Hello, can anyone help me on how to install java on ubuntu?
[21:23] <ThinkT510> !java | Pummpy1
[21:24] <trism> fishcooker: looks fine, how about the output of: sudo apt-get install libpulse-dev;
[21:25] <fishcooker> trism: it seems right but .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1395484/
[21:25] <vamp774> sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[21:26] <trism> fishcooker: do you have -proposed enabled?
[21:26] <Karlo_> Virunga: Based on an experiment I just did, and comparison with the man page for find, I'd venture to say that  -exec COMMAND '{}' +  requires the '{}' to be the last argument on the line.  Hence, you could invoke it as:  find . -name win32\* -prune -o -name \*.h -print -exec cp -t ../headers '{}' +
[21:26] <Karlo_> Virunga: This sort of thing is exactly why I got the -t flag added to GNU cp in the first place.  :-)
[21:26] <fishcooker> trism: i suppose that my repository is not valid
[21:26] <Pummpy1> Does anyone know how to install java on chrome. It wont work for me
[21:27] <fishcooker> should i change/ remove id on *archive.ubuntu.co.id
[21:27] <fishcooker> sorry *com
[21:27] <bekks> Karlo_: {} is the placefolder for the find results and the position ist pretty irrelevant.
[21:27] <Karlo_> bekks: When using '+' instead of ';', that's less clear.
[21:28] <trism> fishcooker: I don't know that there is necessarily anything wrong with that mirror just yet, but the version it wants to install seems to still be in lucid-proposed, can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[21:28] <rex> pummpy1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java download jre7 and icedtea 7
[21:29] <trism> fishcooker: or alternatively look in software-properties-gtk on the Updates tab and see if -proposed is checked
[21:29] <Nvveen> Damn, booting into recovery mode doesn;t work for fsck or  dpkg to reinstall packages, it just hangs over mounting the partitions
[21:29] <dsa> whats the best way of managing users and groups through a gui/web interface remotely on ubuntu? isn't installing zentyal too much just for doing that purpose or is it the only option..
[21:29] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - no luck - plex recognizes the thumb drive but cannot see any folders or media within the drive...
[21:30] <Pummpy1> rex say if you make a program. And I downloaded it. How could i install it, if it is a .tar.gz file?
[21:31] <fishcooker> i've just checked the box for lucid-proposed
[21:31] <Virunga> Karlo_: thank you! But i dunno why that command doesn't copy all the files.
[21:31] <fishcooker> trism: i hope it solved the problem .. thanks
[21:31] <trism> fishcooker: so it wasn't checked? you probably don't want it checked, I just wanted to know whether it was enabled or not
[21:31] <rex> pummpy1: paste this line in browser http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/openjdk-7-jre
[21:31] <Virunga> Karlo_: i'll you xargs, it's safer.
[21:32] <Pummpy1> rex which one is iced tea?
[21:32] <fishcooker> yes it was'nt checked
[21:33] <rex> pummpy1: its under browser plugin
[21:33] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[21:33] <dsa> hehe
[21:34] <rex> pummpy1: open this link in browser http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/icedtea-7-plugin its a icedtea
[21:34] <Virunga> Karlo_: not true, it works! :)
[21:34] <Virunga> Karlo_: thanks again.
[21:34] <someprimetime> i've got an ubuntu server that I host my site with, that has a database obviously, but now I'm using git locally and I'd like to somehow use that production database… how exactly can I do that? i looked into ssh tunneling but I don't really understand it enough to know where else to go
[21:34] <dsa> yaya for netsplits
[21:34] <HondUSA> crimsonmane? should i try to mount this drive to the home folder? plex can read any media on my computer... but still having trouble with the drive...
[21:34] <trism> fishcooker: yeah then it may be an issue with the mirror being out of sync, have you run: sudo apt-get update; yet?
[21:34] <Pummpy1> rex waiting for dpkg to exit?
[21:35] <rex> pummpy1: just install both of these and problem solved
[21:35] <Pummpy1> rex it keeps on saying waiting for dpkg to exit
[21:36] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: i was reminded that a usb drive is going to be slow, for one.
[21:36] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: and you'll need to add -r to the chown command (sudo chown -r) so it applies to the folders
[21:36] <dsa> whats the best way of managing users and groups remotely through a gui/web interface on ubuntu? is installing zentyal too much just for that purpose or is it the only option..
[21:36] <Karlo_> Strange...  I recall that when I got -t added to cp/mv, I also got a corresponding feature added to xargs, but it doesn't seem to be in there.  I wonder if they eventually rejected it because it "wasn't needed now".
[21:36] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - ok, but shouldnt the plex media server be able to see the folders
[21:36] <fishcooker> trism: on progress ...
[21:36] <dsa> ?
[21:36] <ikonia> -R
[21:37] <HondUSA> ohhhhhhh
[21:37] <rex> pummpy1:  restart your pc then try or wait for sometime
[21:38] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - so... sudo cmod 777 /media/... and THEN sudo chmod -r? or sudo chown -r?
[21:38] <beppe> ciaooo
[21:38] <ThinkT510> !vnc | New_kid
[21:38] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: sudo chmod -r 777 bla bla
[21:39] <beppe> !list
[21:39] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: -r means "recursive" so it applies to folders, files, subfolders, everything
[21:39] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - word.. thanks for that easter egg info
[21:40] <trism> fishcooker: oh out of curiosity, what is: apt-cache policy libpulse0;
[21:40] <trism> fishcooker: maybe you had -proposed before, but removed it, but you have newer versions of libpulse0
[21:41] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: a friend reminds me that using a usb drive for plex is going to bottleneck your experience.
[21:41] <fishcooker> it works trism
[21:41] <trism> fishcooker: all fixed?
[21:41] <HondUSA> really? i guess that makes sense?
[21:42] <fishcooker> its downloading
[21:42] <HondUSA> so all this might be the wrong approach?
[21:42] <fishcooker> btw on what err message .. you know that my lucid-proposed doesnt include on my sourcelist?
[21:42] <fishcooker> trism: thankyou
[21:43] <crimsonmane> HondUSA: if you're like me, you'll keep a backup of everything on the usb drive, and use it to combine the mac and other computer media into one location. but it's going to work best if they reside on an internal hdd
[21:43] <ThinkT510> !vnc > New_kid
[21:43] <trism> fishcooker: I could tell because of the version it wanted to install, 14.1 instead of 14
[21:43] <HondUSA> i had an ibook g4 running ubuntu - with plex - and an hdd using a firewire... but power pc and plex dont play together....... i think ill do what you suggest
[21:44] <HondUSA> i noticed a lag on the macbook with external hdd - but i thought it was wifi
[21:44] <crimsonmane> it CAN be the wifi, if you're doing HD video over not-wireless-n
[21:45] <Karlo_> Back to my original question, rephrased -- What are my *options* for sharing files between two Linux machines on the same LAN?
[21:45] <ThinkT510> !samba > New_kid
[21:45] <ikonia> Karlo_: NFS/Samba/SSHFS
[21:45] <crimsonmane> Karlo_: which file manager do you use?
[21:45] <wN> Karlo_: nfs or cifs?
[21:45] <wN> or sshfs?
[21:46] <crimsonmane> Karlo_: or file browser, depending on the terminology you prefer.
[21:46] <HondUSA> crimsonmane - ok - many many thanks for the advice - see you another day
[21:46] <Karlo_> crimsonmane, I'm not even sure what that means.  I generally use a terminal running a shell, not a GUI.
[21:47] <crimsonmane> Karlo_: i'm using Dolphin because i'm using KDE. i can click in the address bar (the part showing the path/folder i'm in) and type "sftp://username@computername" then enter my password and bam i'm in the other computer which has a giant hdd
[21:48]  * crimsonmane is afk
[21:49] <BluesKaj> Karlo_, you can do the same in nautilus as  crimsonmane and I do in dolphin (kde)
[21:49] <ikonia> that's not file sharing
[21:49] <ikonia> that is depending on an ftp proccess
[21:50] <Karlo_> OK.  I know of the existence of nautilus, but I don't use it.
[21:50] <zoidberg1> hallo
[21:50] <zoidberg1> i have a problem
[21:50] <BluesKaj> it's file access ikonia
[21:50] <zoidberg1> i cant dist upgrade
[21:50] <zoidberg1> because of broken packages
[21:50] <zoidberg1> python minimal has todo something with that
[21:51] <zoidberg1> /home/zoidberg# apt-get remove python-minimal
[21:51] <zoidberg1> Reading package lists... Done
[21:51] <zoidberg1> Building dependency tree
[21:51] <zoidberg1> Reading state information... Done
[21:51] <zoidberg1> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[21:51] <FloodBot1> zoidberg1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:51] <zoidberg1> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[21:51] <BluesKaj> Karlo_, why not , it's a decent file manager
[21:52] <super123> ciao
[21:52] <super123> !list
[21:53] <zoidberg1> hello?
[21:53] <Karlo_> zoidberg1: Did you read that response from the bot?
[21:53] <zoidberg1> yes
[21:53] <zoidberg1> i read it
[21:54] <zoidberg1> sorry for flooding i wanted only to paste one line
[21:55] <zoidberg1> but anyway can anybody help me?
[21:55] <crimsonmane> BluesKaj: yes you can do it in nautilus
[21:56] <ThinkT510> zoidberg1: why do you want to remove python?
[21:56] <zoidberg1> i`ve got a powerpc ubuntu 10.4 lts and i want to upgrade, buts that not posssible because of broken packages
[21:56] <zoidberg1> ThinkT510: i hate python
[21:57] <Karlo_> Ideally, I'd like to be able to type "anycmd /path/to/remote/file" and have it work transparently.  Next best is to have a command that will push and/or pull files.  As for why to avoid a file manager, I might want to repeat something 100 times, and it's easier to script a CLI than a GUI.
[21:57] <zoidberg1> ThinkT510: no it has todo something with the broken packages
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> zoidberg1  fastest, cleanest and most efficient way is fresh install after backup
[21:57] <ThinkT510> MonkeyDust +1
[21:57] <rudivs> what command would I use to terminate the execution of a shell script at a specific time (using cron)?
[21:57] <rex> monnkeydust: +1
[21:57] <rudivs> killall scriptname.sh?
[21:57] <zoidberg1> MonkeyDust -1 this is windows style
[21:58] <crimsonmane> Karlo_: you can, in terminal, "scp filename username@hostname:/path/to/destinatin"
[21:58] <crimsonmane> Karlo_: or you can "ssh username@computername" and be logged into that computer in terminal
[21:58] <zoidberg1> MonkeyDust: no i don`t want to reinstall because of problems with my disk drive and no ability to boot from usb
[21:59] <zoidberg1> MonkeyDust: its powerpc and openboot its not easy to boot from usb
[21:59] <rudivs> zoidberg1, I've recently done it both ways, and can totally recommend the clean install approach. settings and prefs are still maintained.
[21:59] <crimsonmane> Karlo_: you might have to enable port forwarding of port 22 in the router, or enable automatic port forwarding.
[21:59] <Karlo_> rudivs: I sometimes write the script so that it will clean up and exit if a certain file appears in the system; then cron (or anyone else) can just create that file.
[22:01] <zoidberg1> rudivs: you read my problem...
[22:01] <rudivs> Karlo_, that could work, but since my script is just a bunch of wget commands, would killall wget work? or would it just go on to the next command?
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> zoidberg1  in the future, best make a separate /home partition, i guess you're skilled enough to know how to do that
[22:01] <zoidberg1> openboot is a bit strange
[22:01] <zoidberg1> yes
[22:01] <Karlo_> I'd be hesitant about "killall wget", since it might get some false positives not related to the script in question.
[22:02] <rudivs> zoidberg1, I hear you. I'm just giving my opinion after much frustration trying to recover a failed upgrade.
[22:02] <Karlo_> And in any case, you'd want to kill the script itself in addition to what it's running.
[22:02] <VorT3x> Hi everyone
[22:03] <zoidberg1> MonkeyDust: the problem is that i cant boot from as much as anything but my harddisk
[22:03] <rudivs> Karlo_, thanks, will give it some thought
[22:03] <zoidberg1> MonkeyDust: because of drive failure and openboot problems...
[22:03] <zoidberg1> i mean i have a spare drive
[22:03] <Karlo_> rudivs, is it sufficient to let the current wget finish, and then terminate the script?  Or do you need to kill the wget that's in progress?
[22:04] <VorT3x> Does some1 know workaround to install calendar-indicator on ubuntu 12.04?
[22:04] <VorT3x> Problem: python3-requests but it is not installable
[22:04] <zoidberg1> but i dont want to unscrew this powerbook again
[22:05] <lachie> Can anyone help get wireless working ?
[22:05] <rudivs> Karlo_, I need to kill the wget... it's downloading big data files, and my data plan gives me free bandwidth between midnight and 5am
[22:05] <zoidberg1> is there an irc channel for the ports of ubuntu for other architektures than x86
[22:05] <rudivs> if I leave it to finish, it'll cost me
[22:05] <crimsonmane> zoidberg1: there's a kubuntu channel, i know that much
[22:06] <bekks> zoidberg1: Which architecture are you looking for?
[22:06] <zoidberg1> powerpc g4
[22:06] <ThinkT510> !ppc | zoidberg1
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> zoidberg1  you have our advice, but also read this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/ubuntu-10-04-12-04-upgrade-how-well-does-it-go
[22:07] <honvai> what command mount usb device?
[22:07] <zoidberg1> rly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in  popular gaming consoles. PPC was a
[22:07] <bar_> Hey
[22:07] <zoidberg1> rly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in  popular gaming consoles. PPC was a
[22:07] <zoidberg1> rly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in  popular gaming consoles. PPC was a
[22:07] <zoidberg1> rly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in  popular gaming consoles. PPC was a
[22:07] <FloodBot1> zoidberg1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:07] <bar_> Is there a difference between a Xubuntu ISO and Ubuntu + xubuntu-desktop (via apt-get) ?
[22:07] <zoidberg1> deammed irssi doing what it wants today sorry
[22:08] <bekks> zoidberg1: Apple isnt a different architecture, nowadays, since they are using Intel processors.
[22:09] <Karlo_> rudivs: Ah, OK.  Well, if you want a "safe" way to do it...  Hmm... Maybe: wget ARGS & pid=$!; while kill -0 $pid; do if NOMORETIME; then kill $pid; rm OUTFILE; exit; fi; done # NOMORETIME can be implemented using the date command, to leave cron out of it.
[22:09] <zoidberg1> bekks: i know but my powerbook isn`t from nowadays its from the past (back to the future style)
[22:09] <Karlo_> Oopd
[22:10] <bar_> anyone? :)
[22:10] <bekks> zoidberg1: So you mean PPC then?
[22:10] <Karlo_> rudivs: correction: wget ARGS & pid=$!; while kill -0 $pid; do if NOMORETIME; then kill $pid; rm OUTFILE; exit; fi; sleep 15; done # NOMORETIME can be implemented using the date command, to leave cron out of it.
[22:10] <lachie> Can anyone help get wireless working ?
[22:10] <zoidberg1> bekks: yes
[22:10] <dsa> about ssh.. "Rate-limit the connections" is only possible through iptables?
[22:10] <bekks> dsa: Yes.
[22:10] <zoidberg1> bekks: powerpc g4 powerbook g4 revision 4 i think
[22:10] <dsa> oh =/
[22:10] <dsa> thanks bekks
[22:11] <zoidberg1> 1,5 ghz full risc power
[22:11] <bekks> zoidberg1: You could try #ubuntu-ppc then
[22:11] <zoidberg1> from 2005
[22:12] <Karlo_> rudivs: NOMORETIME can be   [ $(date +%H) -ge 5 ]   , say.
[22:12] <zoidberg1> bekks: i know but i think its a general problem wich can besolved it hasn`t anything todo with my architecture
[22:12] <aniasis> how can I locate all my apache configurations?
[22:12] <designbybeck__> So the Guest Session on Ubuntu 12.10... Can I customize that session at all? So it has a certain look and feel for the "guest" when they go into it?
[22:12] <bekks> zoidberg1: Which problem?
[22:12] <zoidberg1> bekks: ok it has a bit todo with my arch but that is only the problem with openboot
[22:13] <zoidberg1> bekks: the problem that i want to fix all broken ppackages so i can update
[22:13] <zoidberg1> without reinstalling
[22:13] <rudivs> Karlo_, thanks, I'll give that a shot :)
[22:14] <zoidberg1> bekks: and the ubuntu-powerpc channel is a bit dead
[22:14] <rex> zoidberg1: synaptic manager might help you.
[22:14] <Karlo_> rudivs: Good luck.  In general, I strongly prefer to let a program retain control over its own termination, rather than having it be killed by something asychronous.
[22:15] <gilgulis> New to Linux, trying to play a Netflix DVD (not trying to stream online) on Movie Player, error message says it can't open due to being encrypted. Suggestions?
[22:16] <Catbuntu> Hi
[22:16] <crimsonmane> gilgulis: google "Netflix on Linux" there is a PPA for it
[22:16] <crimsonmane> oh DVD sorry
[22:16] <tsimpson_> gilgulis: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[22:16] <crimsonmane> gilgulis: ignore what i said i missed the DVD part
[22:16] <Calif> Can anyone answer a NAT question?
[22:17] <willis1> ask it and see Calif
[22:17] <Karlo_> Sure.  One nat = 2.7 bits.  Next?
[22:17] <Calif> what happens for a website that is servicing Nat'd clients, and it has say more than 65535 clients connecting, like say 100,000 end users connecting or 1,000,000 even at the same time... - How can it translate the ports correctly?
[22:17] <Karlo_> Or is it 0.37 bits?  Ah, never mind, dumb joke anyway.
[22:17] <crimsonmane> lol
[22:18] <danilo_> hey people
[22:18] <tsimpson_> Calif: the web server has no clue if the client is behind NAT or not, and it doesn't care. it's the job of the router to make sure the packets get back to the right host
[22:18] <gilgulis> crimsonmane: that's also of interest to me, ty
[22:18] <funkt> hi there im desperately trying to reinstall lampp on ubuntu and it really is not working correctly could anyone help I had installed messed up all the databases in phpmyadmin i then removed it and tried to reinstall it but I get a whole load of errors
[22:18] <zoidberg1> rex: i gave it a try but it doesnt do anything
[22:18] <gilgulis> tsimpson_: thank you
[22:18] <funkt> anyone have any ideas?
[22:19] <danilo_> I am not sure if you guys have faced this problem in ubuntu running in a inspiron laptop
[22:19] <crimsonmane> funkt: how did you remove it?
[22:19] <danilo_> sometimes the xserver fails
[22:19] <jrib> funkt: pastebin what errors you are getting, what exactly you did, and what exactly you are doing now.
[22:19] <Sky_> hello
[22:20] <Calif> Right, but the webserver or whatnot has to send it's traffic out a given port, so how does it handle literally millions of requests per second, and still keep up if all the ports it's going to use (65k) are in use
[22:20] <danilo_> and during the startup it is offered other option to try to detect the video card....
[22:20] <funkt> Deprecated: Function eregi() is deprecated in /opt/lampp/phpmyadmin/libraries/select_lang.lib.php on line 112
[22:20] <Sky_> I need someone to help me with starting my laptop ^_^
[22:20] <funkt> i keep getting that when i go to phpmyadmin/index.php
[22:21] <crimsonmane> Calif: the server takes a turn on everyone. if there's that many users concurrently connected, then it works by adding servers (redundancy)
[22:21] <funkt> and It is a really raw version of the title no interface
[22:21] <rex> zoidberg1: might this help you. http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/11/fix-package-system-broken-error-ubuntu-10-0410-10-maverick-meerkat/
[22:21] <Dr_Willis_>  /opt/ ? How did you instsall lampp?
[22:21] <danilo_> i am using ubuntu 12.10
[22:21] <tsimpson_> Calif: the webs server only needs one port, 80, it sends all its data from there
[22:21] <funkt> i removed it by using terminal rm -rf /opt/lampp and by deleting lampp in the opt directory through root
[22:22] <funkt> i installed lampp by cd to desktop and untaring it to opt
[22:22] <Calif> I thought the destination port the server uses is the source port of the client (chosen by its router)
[22:22] <Dr_Willis_> funkt:  there any reason you dident use the ones in the package manager?
[22:22] <funkt> ohh didnt know there was one in there??
[22:23] <Dr_Willis_> !lamp
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> funkt  consider using !tasksel
[22:23] <funkt> I know do you think !tasksel is better?
[22:24] <tsimpson_> Calif: yes, but the destination is an IP address and port number _pair_
[22:24] <zoidberg1> rex: there is no broken package shown
[22:24] <Dr_Willis_> ive heard/seen some people mention tasksel being a little weird for them. so pay attention to what its doing
[22:24] <Sky_> anyone available to help? my laptop won't start after i try installing ubuntu 12.10
[22:24] <Calif> Tsimpson, so the only way the limit would be reached in theory is if the requests came from a single public ip
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> Sky_  any errors?
[22:25] <xilus> hello
[22:25] <Sky_> no errors its just a blank screen
[22:25] <funkt> hey there i cant see lamp in the software centre
[22:25] <tsimpson_> Calif: yes, and then it's still not the web servers problem
[22:25] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | Sky_
[22:25] <kevinc> i'm having trouble getting os x to see my NFS share, it won't connect to it.  this is my /etc/exports
[22:25] <kevinc> this->  /home 192.168.1.0/24(rw,async,insecure,anonuid=1000,anongid=1000)
[22:26] <kevinc> any ideas?
[22:26] <zoidberg1> ok i`ll try aptitude -f install
[22:27] <DaemonicApathy> kevinc: have you tried 192.168.1.0:24 instead?
[22:27] <kevinc> I'll give that a shot, I can get to it from my raspberry pi running xbmc
[22:27] <crimsonmane> Calif: even a server can really only do one thing at a time. they just do it quickly. even when a million people are browsing a website, it's not constantly sending/receiving from them.
[22:28] <kevinc> i tried the 192.168.1.0:24 and I got an error
[22:28] <kevinc> exportfs: Failed to resolve 192.168.1.0:24
[22:28] <kevinc> when I went to restart it
[22:28] <okra> anyone knows how to install vmware to ubuntu?
[22:28] <zoidberg1> ok it was a success
[22:28] <ikonia> why :34
[22:28] <ikonia> 24
[22:28] <ikonia> !vmware | okra
[22:29] <ikonia> nothing is running on port 24
[22:29] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:29] <zoidberg1> it fixed this ppython crap
[22:29] <llutz> kevinc: :24 is nonsense, cidr notation is /24
[22:29] <zoidberg1> now i will do a dist upgrade
[22:29] <okra> ok thanks ikonia
[22:29] <zoidberg1> wish me luck
[22:29] <wanksta> anybody body with dashbord for ubuntu
[22:29] <kevinc> llutz thats what i figured
[22:29] <funkt> hi there just tried !tasksel and it has failed to install through terminal any ideas?
[22:29] <Sky_> how do i input those commands with black screen?
[22:29] <DaemonicApathy> kevinc: Re :24 - my mistake, sorry.
[22:30] <kevinc> DaemonicApathy: no problem
[22:30] <crimsonmane> Sky_: control alt f1
[22:30] <ania_> юхугхйкиок
[22:30] <kevinc> weird that my raspbmc pi can connect to it
[22:30] <kevinc> but my mac can't
[22:30] <Sky_> ok ty
[22:30] <ania_> kevinc: hi
[22:30] <ukho> Help! I can't set up facebook account in Pidgin! Why?o_0
[22:31] <wanksta> anybody body with dashbord for ubuntu
[22:31] <ania_> kevinc: is raspery pi worth money ?
[22:31] <ikonia> dashboard ?
[22:31] <ukho> I have xubuntu 12.04
[22:31] <Calif> So at a point where someohow the number of available ports was used concurrently, somehow, the server would just end up queueing the request till it's got available ports?
[22:31] <kevinc> ania_ : depends what you want to do with it, so far mines doing a fabulous job running raspbmc, they have a very fast stable build right now
[22:31] <ania_> kevinc: did you think about buying mk808 insted??
[22:31] <kevinc> ania_ wasn't aware of those
[22:32] <kevinc> ania_: the pi does everything I need
[22:32] <ar9> i have this old dekstop with a pentium 4 and 1.5 gigs of ram, whats a good windows like spin i can use?
[22:32] <wanksta> yes ikonia  dashboard
[22:32] <crimsonmane> Calif: have you ever gone to google.com and it didnt appear instantly? that's because it wasnt your turn. it has to handle the other million people. plus they add servers to handle the load when so many are accessing it.
[22:32] <ikonia> wanksta: what do you mean by a dashboard
[22:32] <Calif> crimsonmane, makes sense
[22:32] <Calif> I'm just trying to get the bigger picture I guess
[22:33] <kristopolous> so I'm on 64 bit ubu and this proprietary binary needs the 32 bit versions of libraries ... is there a magic apt incantation to get these on here?
[22:33] <wanksta> ikonia, when i plug in my usb modem  the application  for take control over the modem-dashboard
[22:33] <llutz> kristopolous: sudo apt-get install libname-foo:i386
[22:33] <ikonia> modem dashboard ??? what are you talking about
[22:33] <crimsonmane> Calif: generally speaking, there's not a lot the server sends you in order for a pretty page to appear
[22:33] <troulouliou_dev> hi i would lik to install e17 with all the panel , packages ... is apt-get install e17 enough ?
[22:34] <kristopolous> llutz: oh beautiful ... let me try
[22:34] <damo22> hi just installed new system with nvidia peg + hdmi and i had to fiddle around just to get a text mode shell but gfx is all garbled and i cant run X
[22:34] <zoidberg1> is anyone else still using old powerpc macs?
[22:34] <zoidberg1> btw
[22:34] <wanksta> ikonia, the application software for take control of my modem
[22:35] <damo22> i just installed nvidia-173 and it compiled great, how do i launch X using the console?
[22:35] <ikonia> wanksta: gnome network manager will do that
[22:35] <kevinc> no luck with this nfs to mac
[22:35] <Sky_> Its not working, I don't know if this have to do with it, but i was updating it to 12.10 from 10.04 and there was a power outage so...it stopped half way. It starts but after few secs. it black screen.
[22:35] <Calif> crimsonmane, right, I just figured in the case of someone like google, that there had to be situations where the ports would get used up, but I guess where its not all the same network and there's more than a single server, this would remedy that, as well as simply queueing the people up
[22:35] <DaemonicApathy> damo22: 'startx', no quotes.
[22:35] <damo22> DaemonicApathy: yes i guess but it says no screens found
[22:36] <wanksta> ikonia,  but when message  or a call come am fail to recognize
[22:36] <crimsonmane> Calif: pretty much yes. but it only uses one port, port 80. every port has a common useage and generally everyone respects the purpose of those ports
[22:36] <zoidberg1> ar9: isnt ar9 a processor architectur
[22:36] <DaemonicApathy> damo22: How about 'sudo service gdm start', then? Assuming recent Ubuntu.
[22:36] <kristopolous> llutz: Everything is working well now. Thanks for the tip.
[22:36] <ar9> zoidberg1: just a nick
[22:36] <zoidberg1> ar9: http://www.wehavemorefun.de/fritzbox/AR9
[22:36] <Calif> crimsonmane, for the destination (from the client perspective) but when the server replies, it's not using that port anymore, it uses the original port the request was sent From the client on?
[22:36] <damo22> DaemonicApathy: i tried sudo service lightdm start
[22:37] <damo22> DaemonicApathy: i got a blank screen with cursor flashing
[22:37] <Calif> one other question after this
[22:37] <zoidberg1> ar9: now you can tell that your nic is a cool mips processor
[22:37] <ar9> zoidberg1: thanks
[22:37] <damo22> DaemonicApathy: i am running 12.04.1 LTS with latest updates
[22:38] <tsimpson_> Calif: it sends _to_ the port the client used, it still sends _from_ port 80
[22:38] <crimsonmane> Calif: the server has to be configured to use that port in the first place. that's how you prevent attacks.
[22:38] <Calif> oh I see what you mean
[22:38] <Calif> The server is still sending out from port 80, it's just sending TO the port the client picked
[22:38] <damo22> DaemonicApathy: oh i need to reboot and install a couple more updates
[22:39] <damo22> brb
[22:39] <DaemonicApathy> damo22: Please standby for someone more capable. :-)
[22:39] <troulouliou_dev> his is there a package to change the gdm "debian" background that appears in the now default gdm theme on 12.10 ?
[22:39] <pgib> ok guys... here is an interesting one.  When I login with lightdm, I choose English (US) as my language
[22:39] <Calif> So in truth, there is no limit how many requests can go out the same port, it's based on the server resources and line speed at how much it can service at once - am I taking away from that right?
[22:39] <pgib> crap..
[22:40] <tsimpson_> Calif: that's right
[22:40] <Calif> I got ya
[22:40] <RockStarz> Hi
[22:40] <Calif> I thought ports were a 1-1 ratio for some reason, that makes more sense
[22:40] <guggero> Hi there. I have a hardware question concerning HDD reliability and smartctl messages. What IRC channel would you recommend me to ask such a question?
[22:41] <guggero> Or is someone here willing to answer something like this?
[22:41] <crimsonmane> port 80 is internet traffic, port 22 is ssh traffic, port 1337 is a common attack point, so it's always off... stuff like that.
[22:41] <pgib> ok guys... here is an interesting one.  When I login with lightdm, I choose English (US) as my language.  I look at my LANG envvar, it is: "en_US.UTF-8".  In firefox, the language is set to English/United-States.  Yet.. firefox and other apps insist that "Color" is not a word, and it recommends "Colour"  what the heck? any ideas?
[22:41] <Calif> ok
[22:41] <crimsonmane> pgib: it's not a proper dictionary, sadly. it goes off ye olde tranditional spelling or something
[22:42] <RockStarz> Just type colour
[22:42] <Calif> What if the webserver closes it's port 80 to prevent attacks, can a client figure out to use another port or does web simply not work?
[22:42] <zoidberg1> pgib: i like the colour
[22:42] <DaemonicApathy> pgib, I'd recommend using the 'add to dictionary' option that most spell correction apps have.
[22:42] <crimsonmane> Calif: the server has to be told to use the other port by the system administrator
[22:42] <ikonia> Calif: it will not work
[22:42] <Calif> ok
[22:42] <ikonia> Calif: do you have an actual question ?
[22:42] <RockStarz> You can port forward
[22:42] <ikonia> RockStarz: then the port wouldn't be "closed"
[22:43] <Calif> ikonia, I've asked a few :P
[22:43] <Calif> ikonia, I have one more though at least, which might turn into more lol
[22:43] <Tex_Nick> guggero : have you tried ##hardware
[22:43] <pgib> DaemonicApathy, zoidberg1, crimsonmane, but shouldn't aspell at least behave properly? It used to... until a few months ago. Now it insists that all my Z's become S's and that I speak in Queen's English.  This is utter rubbish! (Indeed)
[22:43] <guggero> not yet but I definitely will, thanks
[22:43] <Calif> am I correct in understanding that from an Internal Private network... where Two hosts inside pick the Same port source port... The router doesn't force it to use a different port, it will let the two clients use the same port and then the router itself keeps track of who had which request using the same port?
[22:43] <pgib> maybe I need to go back to C locale
[22:44] <ikonia> Calif: that's not really an ubuntu issue, that depends on the router
[22:44] <Calif> Sorry, I tried asking in the relevant channels, but I just get ignored
[22:44] <ikonia> that doesn't mean here is a free for all
[22:45] <crimsonmane> Calif: yes you have that part right
[22:46] <Calif> thank you crimsonmane
[22:46] <RockStarz> Calif you are correct
[22:46] <ner0x> Would it be alright to chown everything in /usr/local if there isn't anything in there to begin with?
[22:46] <crimsonmane> Calif: in a local network you tell both machines what port to use. sorry had to tend to my daughter or would have answered sooner.
[22:46] <ikonia> ner0x: why would you do that if there is nothing there ?
[22:46] <Calif> crimsonmane, thats totally ok, i really appreciate your help
[22:46] <ner0x> ikonia: I mean, chown /usr/local so I can make install from a user.
[22:47] <ikonia> ner0x: why would it be a problem ?
[22:47] <ner0x> ikonia: Just making sure I'm not doing anything that ubuntu/linux would dislike.
[22:48] <RockStarz> Some oddball questions
[22:48] <crimsonmane> Calif: one example is when i run a Ventrilo server. First i decide what port it's going to use and i set that within the program. Then i set the router to forward that same port to the computer that is hosting Ventrilo. Then i tell people my IP address and which port to connect to. They connect and the router knows which computer to send the traffic to. That computer knows which program to send the traffic to.
[22:49] <Calif> ok
[22:50] <Calif> Would there be any chance of that computer using the same port by happenstance for another program?
[22:50] <lachie> Can anyone help get wireless working ?
[22:51] <Calif> lachie, whats the trouble?
[22:51] <crimsonmane> Calif: not likely. different programs use different default ports, and there's SO MANY to pick from.
[22:51] <lachie> Calif, It doesnt show any wireless networks
[22:52] <Calif> lachie: is this a laptop or a desktop
[22:52] <Calif> crimsonmane, what if Firefox randomly choose your source port, and it happened to be the same?
[22:52] <crimsonmane> Calif: firefox is using port 80. it doesn't pick them at random
[22:52] <Calif> as a source?
[22:52] <damo22> is there a channel for specific support on nvidia cards under ubuntu?
[22:52] <crimsonmane> Calif: there's no difference. port 80 is incoming and outgoing internet
[22:53] <llutz> crimsonmane: you want to read about that again
[22:53] <crimsonmane> llutz: not really :)
[22:53] <lachie> Calif, laptop, however Im running backtrack, I tried joining #backtrack-linux but It said I was banned and I havent ever been there before
[22:53] <crimsonmane> Calif: you'd have to manually tell a program to use a port other than its default. there's no accidents in that respect.
[22:53] <damo22> i need to know how to enable nvidia- modules from the command line
[22:53] <damo22> as i dont have access to X
[22:54] <guggero> Ok, guys, though question here: I have a dedicated server with RAID 1. But one of the disks seems to act up. When I run "smartctl -a /dev/sda" it tells me that there were 30 read errors. But a "smartctl -H /dev/sda" tells me, the overall disk health is fine (PASSED). Do I need to be concerned about this?
[22:54] <Calif> crimsonmane, I thought that the common ports are only used as destination ports, and that for the source behind a router it will use a port above 1024?
[22:54] <ner0x> What can I use to build .deb files?
[22:55] <llutz> Calif right
[22:55] <compdoc> guggero, ATA error count? any reallocated sectors?
[22:55] <OerHeks> ner0x, install build-essentials
[22:56] <Calif> lachie: I've never used backtrack, I'd check for the simple things though as I assume your version still supports wireless
[22:56] <crimsonmane> Calif: i dont know how much experience you or llutz has with networking, but if you want to let someone in from the outside, you specify the port and in the router configure the destination of said port. and it doesn't matter the port number as long as it's "within range"
[22:56] <Calif> check for drivers, and simple stuff like the hotbutton
[22:56] <guggero> dmesg reported some ATA read errors. but that was a one time thing, almost a month ago. What I'm not sure about now is, should I replace the disk (which will cost me a lot since it's a dedicated server hosted by a company) or are the errors kind of fixed??!??
[22:57] <llutz> crimsonmane: question was what port firefox uses to establish a http-connect. and that is a port >1024 to destination:80 period
[22:57] <ner0x> OerHeks: I mean, what app would I use to create the deb from the src files?
[22:57] <lachie> Calif, Ive tried a few things but not wuch luck
[22:57] <OerHeks> lachie, because you are root, they ban you
[22:57] <lachie> Derpian, oh' cheers haha
[22:57] <Calif> OerHeks, how can they tell that?
[22:58] <guggero> compdoc: the RAID has done a complete rebuild since the read errors. does that mean I'm out of danger or am I just prolonging the inevitable?
[22:59] <OerHeks> !build | ner0x
[23:00] <compdoc> guggero, drives tend to drop out of raids for serious errors. But if SMART isnt recording any errors, then maybe its some other problem like a flakey PSU. keep and eye on it, and keep it backed up
[23:00] <compdoc> *an eye
[23:01] <crimsonmane> guggero: i think the system performed its function and you're solid.
[23:01] <ner0x> OerHeks: Alright, you suggest checkinstall as well.
[23:02] <OerHeks> ner0x, i don't build myself, but that howto is oke
[23:02] <sheng> hi
[23:03] <invisibleheero> Hello I tried to install ubuntu studio but I get W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/abogani/realtime/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[23:03] <invisibleheero> when apt-get update
[23:04] <k1l> invisibleheero: the ppa you added is not online
[23:05] <invisibleheero> k1l,  so should I just remove it?
[23:05] <k1l> i dont know if its temporary offline or not managed anymore. you added that better have a look at
[23:06] <llutz> crimsonmane: and btw, you are talking about port-forwarding, which is a different thing as general tcp connection-establishment
[23:06] <Calif> So assuming lluntz is correct, in so much as that's how I've been taught where a random port above 1024 is used in a PAT situation - If there was two programs on the same source computer that used the same source port above 1024, is there any method for the program or PC to know that it is meant for one program over the other?
[23:07] <Calif> -n sorry, tab is my friend lmao
[23:07] <llutz> Calif: the kernel won't allow two processes to bind to one prot
[23:07] <llutz> port*
[23:07] <Calif> ah ok
[23:08] <Calif> Ok, well that all makes alot more sense now
[23:08] <genii-around> invisibleheero: The issue is that the PPA exists, but there are no packages for Quantal in it yet
[23:08] <Calif> I dont know why I think stuff like this up lol, but I do, and I like to understand those quirky rare scenarios
[23:08] <invisibleheero> genii-around, so I should just remove it
[23:08] <genii-around> invisibleheero: Yes.
[23:09] <Calif> Thank you all for your help, I appreciate your time
[23:09] <invisibleheero> do I just remove the .lst in /etc/apt or is there a "special" method
[23:09] <crimsonmane> oh that's neat to know. i didnt know the kernel prevented concurrent uses of one port
[23:10] <Calif> I didnt either
[23:10] <Aelingil> My system crashed while updating to 12.04 LTS. When i reboot i get stuck in an infinate login loop. I cannot access the TTY's. Is there any way to update files from "Root Shell Prompt"? So far that has been the only thing i can access.
[23:10] <tripppy> whats the best music ubuntu OS? ubuntu studio, and other contenders?
[23:11] <invisibleheero> tripppy,  I would suggest kxstudio personally
[23:11] <seednode> tripppy: Imo, using a minimal install and adding the programs you need.
[23:11] <tripppy> ok thanz
[23:12] <genii-around> invisibleheero: If you manually added it to sources.list then remove it that way. If you added it by doing add-apt-repository    then remove it's entry from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   directory
[23:13] <tripppy> invisibleheero: kxstudio uses unity?
[23:14] <invisibleheero> tripppy,  no it uses kde, xcfe but you can install the base http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Documentation:Ubuntu:Upgrade <-- full gruide
[23:14] <invisibleheero> -r
[23:15] <tripppy> yeah on the site now, i hate unity :)
[23:16] <bar_> hello
[23:16] <bar_> Any one has an idea why the webcam in my Dell Latitude E5420 doesn't work in 12.10 (trying with Cheese, no device is found) ?
[23:17] <invisibleheero> trippy I installed gnomeshell but meh. you might want to try cinnamon
[23:26] <TeraQuibbler> i am searching for a cool tiling wm, i am down to i3 or qtile. Which is better?
[23:28] <ebru_akagunduz> hi
[23:31] <dsa> when setting up rules with iptables command only writes changes this file "/etc/iptables.rules"?
[23:31] <jrib> dsa: no
[23:31] <jrib> !iptables | dsa
[23:32] <dsa> i ask this so i can backup before messing anything
[23:32] <jrib> dsa: iptables rules won't get saved anywhere unless you save them
[23:32] <llutz> dsa: sudo iptables-save >~/myrules.dat         to backup your rules
[23:32] <jrib> TeraQuibbler: try them all.  Though I'd strongly recommend keeping xmonad in there.  And I hear good things about awesome too
[23:33] <llutz> dsa: restore with sudo iptables-restore < myrules.dat
[23:33] <dsa> mmm i was reading on help.ubuntu.com about ssh rules which led to http://blog.zioup.org//2008/iptables_recent/ and before doing anything i just want to backup files im about to change
[23:33] <dsa> =)
[23:36] <stan\0> hi guys, how come with hardware acceleration enabled on flash player all the people on youtube are blue like smurfs, using 12.04 with compiz nvidia proprietary drivers, only happens on youtube tho all the other sites stream just fine whats so special about youtube's streams?
[23:37] <dsa> llutz, so by doing that i can make several backups for example right now iptables are "virgin" unchanged i can iptables-save >~/myrules_number1.dat and after some changes do iptables-save >~/myrules_number2.dat and still revert to number1?
[23:37] <alsu> hi! I seem to have a "test" account on my Ubuntu machine. was this created by Ubuntu during install?
[23:37] <llutz> dsa: yes, those files are only textfiles holding the actual ruleset
[23:37] <dsa> cool
[23:38] <tophyr> hello kids. i've got a fresh 10.04 install in a VM that i'd like to run as headless as possible. however, i used the desktop iso in order to be able to use the GUI if i want to
[23:38] <llutz> dsa: just a hint: when fiddling with iptables-rules on a remote box, make sure to run a cron-job which resets the rules every 15 minute or such. might rescue you if you lock yourself out
[23:38] <tophyr> googling i find some grub options to make it boot to console by default. is that really the best way? seems like there should be a runlevel i can set as the default that just doesn't start up X.
[23:40] <heoyea> tophyr: uninstall the desktop then
[23:40] <tophyr> i want to keep the desktop around in case i need it for some reason. i just don't want it running by default
[23:40] <llutz> !text | tophyr
[23:40] <alsu> I think my Ubuntu machine might have been hacked, which would point to an exploit in Ubuntu. who should I talk to?
[23:41] <chilli0_> alsu, what makes you think that
[23:41] <alsu> chilli0_: the "test" account has a sketchy bash history, and a tried to sudo today. I do not use that account.
[23:42] <tophyr> alsu: run "last test"
[23:42] <tophyr> tells you where they last logged in from
[23:42] <hamza_yerlikaya> Hey guys, I am trying to use monaco font under emacs. When using unity font appears fine but when I switch to xmonad font appear much more thinner close to no anti alising how can i configure the x11 to match the fonts in unity?
[23:42] <gordonjcp> alsu: did you create the test account?
[23:42] <chilli0_> alsu, Are you running ssh
[23:42] <alsu> gordonjcp: no
[23:42] <alsu> chilli0_: yes
[23:43] <alsu> tophyr: logged in today and yesterday, from an AOL address
[23:43] <tophyr> 0_o
[23:43] <tophyr> fishy indeed
[23:43] <dsa> llutz, nice tip about remote control =) thanks, but for now it's nothing serious just a home computer. Still a doubt when restoring that way the file which gets restored with the rules is /etc/iptables.rules or does it backup several stuff and there are several files involved?
[23:43] <chilli0_> alsu, that is odd.. id remove the account and change the ssh passwd
[23:44] <alsu> chilli0_: I did.
[23:44] <llutz> dsa:  sudo iptables-restore < myrules.dat    restores from the given filename , so make sure to name them different
[23:44] <chilli0_> alsu, as for whom to speak too im not sure
[23:44] <tophyr> llutz: that just seems so clunky a method to control how it boots. maybe it's only clunky cuz i'm not familiar with it. i assume this is not an uncommon task and this is "the" solution?
[23:45] <alsu> chilli0_: are you aware of a test account which Ubuntu creates itself?
[23:46] <tophyr> definitely worked, so, ok then :)
[23:46] <xwalk> alsu: I would like to point out that this doesn't seem to be a vulnerability issue with the OS as it would more than likely be network and SSH configurations. SSH run across multiple platforms and has vulnerabilities with every one if configuration of the network and the program itself is not done properly.
[23:46] <xwalk> s/run/runs
[23:46] <guardsman> anyone having an issue with the update servers today?
[23:47] <chilli0_> alsu, I am not no
[23:47] <alsu> xwalk: whatever. those came with the OS
[23:47] <llutz>  tophyr is there a /etc/init/lightdm.conf? if so, you can disable it as shown here http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[23:47]  * xwalk Smells a troll.
[23:48] <Morrisasaurus> shut up!
[23:48] <seednode> Kay
[23:48] <Morrisasaurus> shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up!
[23:49] <tophyr> llutz: no, i saw references to that too but it looks like lightdm's only there in 12.04
[23:49] <Morrisasaurus> shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up!
[23:49] <gordonjcp> alsu: seems odd
[23:49] <gordonjcp> !ops | Morrisasaurus
[23:49] <tophyr> doing the grub thing worked and i can still startx to get into the GUI, so i'm happy for now.
[23:49] <Morrisasaurus> shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up
[23:49] <alsu> xwalk: whatever man
[23:49] <Morrisasaurus> shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up! shut up!
[23:49] <SolarisBoy> how can i access the initramfs on the ubuntu live cd?
[23:49] <Morrisasaurus> shut up!
[23:49] <alsu> gordonjcp: which part?
[23:49] <Morrisasaurus> shut up!
[23:49] <Morrisasaurus> shut up!
[23:49] <FloodBot1> Morrisasaurus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:49] <SolarisBoy> if possible
[23:49] <tophyr> wow, ppl still do this crap?
[23:49] <gordonjcp> alsu: well, the mysteriously-appearing "test" account
[23:49] <seednode> What, spamming #ubuntu?
[23:49] <gordonjcp> tophyr: ye
[23:50] <gordonjcp> alsu: how have you got this system set up?
[23:50] <gordonjcp> alsu: have you installed any servers on it?
[23:50] <tophyr> haven't been in a "big" or support-oriented channel in so long i forgot
[23:50] <lime__> Could someone upload their /usr/share/X11/xkb or advise where I get download an original copy?  I was messing the the keyboards under symbols, and now keyboard layout will not load any longer
[23:50] <dsa> right llutz, but does that command restore several files that make iptables exist/functioning or just one specific like the /etc/iptables.rules
[23:50] <tophyr> dev channels are far smaller and nobody cares about spamming them heh
[23:51] <alsu> gordonjcp: I don't know how to answer that. it's a pretty standard 12.04 LTS install
[23:51] <gordonjcp> tophyr: I'm glad the cretins from #ubuntu and the cretins from #arch have stopped crapflooding each other
[23:51] <gordonjcp> alsu: well, have you installed anything like apache, or an FTP server?
[23:51] <alsu> gordonjcp: oh sure, several things. nginx, mysql, postgres, etc
[23:52] <WebGen> hello guys
[23:52] <wanksta> byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee1
[23:52] <gordonjcp> alsu: mmm
[23:52] <dsa> maybe i'm not expressing myself clearly :x?
[23:52] <gordonjcp> alsu: the more things you install, the more potential attack vectors you allow
[23:53] <gordonjcp> alsu: the worst among these being ftp servers and Wordpress ;-)
[23:53] <alsu> gordonjcp: of course
[23:54] <guardsman> I would stay away from ftp on your machine a nice easy target