[08:21] <mgz> morning!
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[12:00] <mgz> hey!
[13:15] <vila> hey jelmer, mgz ;)
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[20:26] <jlf> hi #bzr, i'm getting the error 'bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to target of bound branch BzrBranch7(file:///Users/jlf/trunk/) => bzr+ssh://jlf@bzr.savannah.gnu.org/emacs/trunk/: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://jlf@bzr.savannah.gnu.org/emacs/trunk/".' when i try to do  bzr up  -- this may be due to firewall settings beyond my control.  can i specify an alternate transport method to update my repo?
[20:42] <LarstiQ_> jlf: that depends on what savannah is providing
[20:43] <LarstiQ_> jlf: but, maybe that is not the problem
[20:44] <LarstiQ_> jlf: can you verify some other way /emacs/trunk exists and is a bzr branch?
[20:44] <LarstiQ_> jlf: hitchhiker might be helpful
[20:44] <jlf> i've used this in the past without incident, but i suspect the firewall is blocking me from this location
[20:46] <LarstiQ_> aha, then the error is a bit misleading
[20:47] <jlf> it wouldn't be the first time :)
[20:47] <LarstiQ_> jlf: other transports are slower, but you could see if http or sftp works (though if ssh works, sftp probably doesn't either)
[20:47] <LarstiQ_> jlf: myself I'd maybe try tunneling ssh through somewhere else
[20:48] <jlf> i'm something of a noob -- how can i check and specify the transport method?  iow i can set up a tunnel but i don't know how to tell bzr to go there instead of savannah:22
[20:48] <LarstiQ_> jlf: if savannah provides the bzr:// protocol you can also try that
[20:49] <LarstiQ_> jlf: let's see
[20:49] <LarstiQ_> jlf: either a Host entry in ~/.ssh/config, since bzr calls out to ssh anyway, or
[20:51] <LarstiQ_> jlf: bzr+ssh://host:port/path
[20:53] <jlf> LarstiQ_: thanks.  since i don't see an option to specify transport in  bzr up  , how should i specify it?
[20:54] <LarstiQ_> jlf: that sounds like you're using a checkout
[20:54] <jlf> i'm an extremely casual user but i have pushed a few changes into the tree successfully this way
[20:55] <LarstiQ_> jlf: you can use `bzr bind bzr+ssh://host:port` to bind your checkout to something else
[20:55] <jlf> great, thank you!
[20:56] <LarstiQ_> jlf: remember to change it back when the firewall is no longer an obstacle :)
[20:56]  * jlf nods
[20:56] <fullermd> Doing manual ssh/sftp-ery is a good way to see if you can't track down where things break.