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ScottK | JontheEchidna: Any thoughts about what's wrong in http://paste.ubuntu.com/1395372/ - only fails in armhf. | 01:53 |
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JontheEchidna | ScottK: qreal v. double inconsistency | 02:11 |
JontheEchidna | in the WorksheetEntry interface class, layOutForWidth is defined as: virtual void layOutForWidth(qreal w, bool force = false) = 0; | 02:12 |
JontheEchidna | but it is implemented as virtual void layOutForWidth(double w, bool force = false) = 0; in the derived classes | 02:12 |
JontheEchidna | which on !arm is ok because qreal == double | 02:12 |
JontheEchidna | but on arm it's a float, which is a different signature, which means layOutForWidth is not defined in the derived classes | 02:13 |
JontheEchidna | (I know you know the float v. qreal differences, but to clarify... ;-) | 02:13 |
JontheEchidna | ScottK: changing the line "virtual void layOutForWidth(double w, bool force = false);" to "virtual void layOutForWidth(qreal w, bool force = false)" would fix | 02:14 |
JontheEchidna | (in the TextEntry, CommandEntry, and LatexEntry headers) | 02:14 |
JontheEchidna | seems to be one of the more subtle bugs of this type | 02:15 |
ScottK | OK. Thanks. I'll try that. | 02:17 |
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ScottK | qreal ALL the things. | 02:51 |
shadeslayer_ | ronnoc: pong | 02:51 |
ScottK | If someone has a raring install, it'd be lovely for them to build kphotoalbum at https://github.com/jzarl/kphotoalbum/tree/kipi and see if it works. | 02:53 |
JontheEchidna | k | 02:57 |
ScottK | Comments back to KDE bug 307148 | 03:01 |
ScottK | afiestas: There's a proposed patch in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307147 for Kamoso with KDE SC 4.9.80 that's been there sinced september with no comments. Would you please have a look at it? | 03:02 |
JontheEchidna | ScottK: builds fine here | 03:07 |
ScottK | OK. How about working? | 03:31 |
ScottK | Cantor uploaded... | 03:47 |
ScottK | JontheEchidna or shadeslayer_ or somebody else with KDE commit rights: would you please commit http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/cantor/revision/54 upstream? | 04:04 |
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shadeslayer_ | ScottK: will have a look today :) | 05:10 |
shadeslayer_ | ScottK: best to just upload to review board and get the maintainers to commit it | 05:12 |
shadeslayer_ | that way you can also apply for kde commit rights at some point in the future | 05:12 |
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shadeslayer | incase anyone does kbreakout packaging stuff http://paste.kde.org/616532/ | 06:46 |
shadeslayer | I got upstream to do some packaging :P | 06:47 |
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Riddell | ScottK: cantor fix committed | 09:56 |
Riddell | you're getting quite good at these arm fixes :) | 09:56 |
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ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. JontheEchidna helped on that one. | 11:10 |
ScottK | My force-hint worked, so all of 4.9.80 is in raring now. | 11:20 |
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Riddell | ScottK: yay :) | 12:04 |
Riddell | thanks for taking care of that | 12:04 |
Peace- | hola :D | 12:05 |
Riddell | hi Peace- | 12:07 |
soee | raring ? | 12:07 |
* Peace- installing raring | 12:07 | |
Riddell | soee: our development version | 12:09 |
soee | ah ok | 12:09 |
Peace- | hi Riddell | 12:09 |
* Peace- installed on pavillion with x200 ati | 12:18 | |
Peace- | ok the installed worked fine :) | 12:19 |
Peace- | installer * | 12:19 |
Riddell | Peace-: using today's image? | 12:29 |
Peace- | Riddell: yes | 12:32 |
Peace- | let me check but usually i use the daily live | 12:32 |
Peace- | Riddell: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ | 12:32 |
Peace- | :) | 12:32 |
Peace- | The only thing that doesn't work it's the wifi | 12:33 |
Peace- | addittional drivers says no proprietary drivers are in use and it gives no options | 12:34 |
Peace- | but well i have the broadcomn 4306 | 12:34 |
Riddell | Peace-: what version of kde is on it? | 12:39 |
Peace- | 4.9.80 Riddell | 12:39 |
Riddell | lovely | 12:41 |
Peace- | Riddell: btw installing the firmware now wifi works | 13:11 |
Peace- | but on jokey-kde you can't install it why? | 13:11 |
Peace- | i remember some old release that asked to install the broadcom stuff | 13:12 |
dantti_laptop | isn't ubuntu droping jokey? | 13:15 |
dantti_laptop | *wasn't | 13:16 |
Peace- | yes | 13:16 |
Peace- | dantti_laptop: are you brazilian guy ? | 13:16 |
dantti_laptop | yup | 13:16 |
Peace- | wtf i have read of your problem with jail -ambassy | 13:17 |
Peace- | embassy | 13:18 |
Peace- | what a mad story man | 13:19 |
dantti_laptop | yup, unfurtunatelly not over yet :/ | 13:19 |
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ScottK | dantti_laptop: Welcome back. | 13:40 |
dantti_laptop | ScottK: thanks | 13:40 |
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yofel | am I the only one whose akonadi demands a vacation in raring? http://paste.kde.org/616892 | 13:55 |
ScottK | yofel: It may be on strike until you upload 4.9.2 to quantal-proposed. | 13:56 |
yofel | heh | 13:56 |
yofel | I'll try to look at 4.9.3 when I get home | 13:56 |
ScottK | Thanks. | 13:57 |
ScottK | Yeah, meant 4.9.3. | 13:57 |
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jussi | yay | 14:24 |
BluesKaj | Hi all | 14:24 |
diahane | hey guys and girls here is a free open source site http://bitfungus.org/ feel free to contribuite on that, we would like to make your/our life easier when searching for code resources, sorry for my bad english, if you want you can add your own resource link or third parties one | 14:39 |
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ScottK | afiestas: ping | 15:37 |
afiestas | ScottK: read the kamoso thing., is in my todo already | 15:37 |
ScottK | afiestas: OK. Thanks. | 15:37 |
* Riddell onto kdegames packaging | 15:44 | |
ScottK | Riddell: Did libkdegames get sorted? | 15:48 |
Riddell | ScottK: seems in good shape to me, do you know of any issues left with it? | 15:50 |
ScottK | Riddell: Just the note in the pad. | 15:50 |
Riddell | I thought the copyright was done, shadeslayer's e-mail to kde-games-devel doesn't seem to have come through | 15:53 |
ScottK | Dunno. | 15:54 |
Riddell | shadeslayer? | 16:01 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: ? | 16:02 |
ScottK | Your turn. | 16:02 |
Riddell | rohan? | 16:03 |
Riddell | oh he's at foss.in | 16:03 |
Riddell | at the woefully underpublicised kde mini summit | 16:03 |
ScottK | Calligra RC is supposed to release today. I think I'll go ahead and upload it. | 16:04 |
* ScottK already did packages. | 16:05 | |
Riddell | ScottK: I never wait with calligra, I just upload it once the packaging is done | 16:06 |
ScottK | Right. | 16:06 |
ScottK | What's the lcms that's mentioned in conjunction with calligra in the packaging spec? | 16:23 |
ScottK | Calligra 2.6 rc2 is uploaded. | 16:23 |
Riddell | a colour library? | 16:25 |
oy | yes a ICC CMM library | 16:25 |
ScottK | Project page? | 16:27 |
oy | www.littlecms.com | 16:27 |
ScottK | Thanks. | 16:27 |
oy | you are welcome | 16:27 |
ScottK | Package looks pretty unmaintained in Debian. Two NMUs are the last two uploads. | 16:30 |
micahg | lcms2 should be supported | 16:35 |
micahg | (assuming calligra supports it :)) | 16:35 |
Riddell | I'm sure I remember adding this as a calligra dep at some point | 16:35 |
afiestas | a friend of mine asks if there is a ppa or something with beta1 for Quantal | 16:41 |
afiestas | is there any? | 16:41 |
Riddell | afiestas: I'm afraid not, first update of the cycle always takes longer | 16:43 |
agateau | afiestas: project-neon ftw! | 16:43 |
Riddell | just packaging kdegames is a long process | 16:43 |
agateau | Riddell: btw, gwenview now optionally depends on lcms2 as well | 16:43 |
oy | ScottK, yes, 2.4 would be good to have, where are the NMUs listed? | 16:44 |
Riddell | agateau: noted for further investigation | 16:44 |
afiestas | Riddell: why is that? having neon already building those games shouldn't speed up the process? | 16:44 |
Riddell | afiestas: I doubt neon has copyright files complete enough for the archive | 16:46 |
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afiestas | copyright files for debain should specify old copyright holders? or only the ones owning actual lines of code? | 16:47 |
Riddell | only the ones owning actual lines of code | 16:47 |
afiestas | can't git blame be used for the job then? | 16:48 |
afiestas | no better way of having a complete copyright | 16:48 |
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yofel | neon is helpful to figure out the build-deps, but the copyright files are... rather incomplete... | 17:00 |
afiestas | yofel: then can't we use git blame? | 17:06 |
afiestas | or svn blame for that matter | 17:06 |
yofel | for what? | 17:06 |
afiestas | for getting all the copyright holders of a file/project | 17:06 |
yofel | shadeslayer dug out some copyright parser I believe that I haven't tried yet. I usually use a combination of licensecheck and grep | 17:07 |
afiestas | why parse the copyright when you can get all teh accurate data from git/svn ? | 17:08 |
yofel | afiestas: in case you don't know how the copyright files are supposed to look like: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ | 17:08 |
afiestas | licence still will have to be greped though | 17:08 |
yofel | we need to copyright file in the binary packages | 17:08 |
yofel | you can't read the source from there | 17:09 |
afiestas | I don't know what a bianry package is, the thing that I install_ | 17:09 |
afiestas | ? | 17:09 |
yofel | the .deb yes | 17:09 |
yofel | and if I understood ScottK right, then simply having the source available somewhere isn't enough | 17:09 |
afiestas | but you create the copyright file used to build the binary don't you? | 17:10 |
afiestas | can't that file be generated using accurate data from git? | 17:10 |
yofel | well, sure, if you write a copyright file parser that returns a formatted copyright file | 17:11 |
yofel | we need a) list of files that the license applies to b) short license text and pointer to full text c) copyright holders with name and year | 17:11 |
yofel | i.e. what the source files usually have as header | 17:12 |
afiestas | we can get C with 100% accurary, the rest must be human checked since there is no perfect parser | 17:12 |
afiestas | then I wonder, do we have something that checks if there's been a difference in the header from version X to version X+1 ? | 17:12 |
afiestas | or do we check all files one by one? | 17:12 |
yofel | there's 'licensecheck' which tries to parse the license out of the files, I then usually grep for license and feed the file list into grep Copyright to get the holders and then filter them out | 17:13 |
yofel | that's my workflow at least | 17:14 |
Riddell | copyright files are rarely updated with new versions (which is a bug) | 17:14 |
afiestas | I'm a little bit lost still | 17:14 |
afiestas | so we have shadeslayer neon with master packages that in theory work | 17:15 |
yofel | Riddell: do you have a workflow for that other than re-creating the file from scratch each time? | 17:15 |
afiestas | we can't use them as a base for beta1 release because we need to update copyright | 17:15 |
Riddell | yofel: nope | 17:15 |
afiestas | and according to what yofel says checking the copyright seems like a fairly quick thing to do, where is the trick? | 17:15 |
yofel | afiestas: neon packaging is quite different from archive packaging for various reasons | 17:16 |
afiestas | amount of packages? amount of manpower? | 17:16 |
yofel | latter mostly | 17:16 |
yofel | both though | 17:16 |
Riddell | no paticular problem, I'm doing it now and I expect to be finished sometime tomorrow morning | 17:16 |
afiestas | Riddell: 10 days after release, we should do better ideally | 17:17 |
afiestas | is KDE not doing a good work preapring releases? | 17:17 |
afiestas | beta releases I mean, I know that for final releases there is a period of time where distros can create packages | 17:18 |
afiestas | do we do that for beta? | 17:18 |
yofel | it would be good if someone from the KDE side would do a copyright check with debian-strictness before release. But otherwise the release management is fine | 17:18 |
yofel | it's mostly lack of manpower for the amount of packages on our side, and our automation scripts are still new and have lot of improvement potential | 17:19 |
Riddell | afiestas: first update of the cycle always takes extra time | 17:19 |
afiestas | I know that we can't change this but, is there any legal requirement to do have all this copyright info in the pacakge? | 17:19 |
afiestas | Riddell: we should start to package earlier then (ofc if possible and if that won't mean wasting effort) | 17:20 |
agateau | afiestas: yes, most licenses require that packages should be shipped with copyright notices | 17:22 |
agateau | ScottK explained this a few days ago iirc | 17:22 |
afiestas | btw I'm talking about this from a upstream PoV, it is stupid to release a beta if nobody can test it | 17:23 |
afiestas | maybe we should call it "Package time" or something like that | 17:23 |
afiestas | agateau: so I guess archlinux is ilegal (they do a simple tarball afaik) | 17:23 |
agateau | afiestas: most likely, yes | 17:24 |
agateau | afiestas: I assume no free software developer has yet bothered to attack them for not respecting licenses :) | 17:24 |
agateau | but Debian is a lot more picky about licensing | 17:25 |
agateau | afiestas: have you read heard about the json license problem? | 17:25 |
agateau | s/read// | 17:25 |
* yofel wonders what RPM does here | 17:26 | |
yofel | all I can find is a one-line copyright field | 17:26 |
afiestas | agateau: nope | 17:27 |
agateau | afiestas: http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article46/json-license | 17:27 |
yofel | fun | 17:28 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: ScottK I've managed to rope in viranch, he works on some of the KDE Games and he went through a couple of sources and generated copyrights for us | 17:29 |
shadeslayer | We also discussed if we should ship these in the sources by default since then we can just copy the file over to debian/copyright | 17:29 |
afiestas | agateau: so muon is ilegal as well :33? (shadeslayer :p) | 17:30 |
agateau | afiestas: why would it be illegal? | 17:30 |
shadeslayer | afiestas: distrubuting binary packages without the debian/copyright would be illegal, yes :P | 17:30 |
afiestas | agateau: because yofel said that neon packages are missing some ocpyright stuff | 17:31 |
yofel | rdieter: just to make sure I understand this right: In a RPM spec you have one single field that documents the License of the whole package? What do you do if licenses are mixed? Put all licenses into that field? | 17:31 |
agateau | afiestas: ah neon, not muon | 17:31 |
afiestas | aaaah, sorry | 17:31 |
afiestas | neon | 17:31 |
yofel | neon is as grey as it gets I fear... | 17:31 |
afiestas | I always mess both of them xD | 17:31 |
rdieter | yofel: yes, e.g. License: LGPLv2+ and GPLv2 | 17:31 |
yofel | rdieter: you guys sure have it easy... | 17:32 |
agateau | I have a great idea to solve that copyright mess! | 17:32 |
agateau | let's request copyright assignment! | 17:32 |
yofel | rdieter: thanks | 17:32 |
agateau | scnr | 17:32 |
rdieter | yofel: though we often simplify it if possible at packagers' discretion to only list the "effective" license (ie, in the above example, License: GPLv2) | 17:32 |
afiestas | so redhat that is super picky with patents and licences only requrie one line | 17:33 |
afiestas | interesting | 17:33 |
yofel | rdieter: ok, that at least explains why we and debian seem to be the only ones that are picky about the copyright contents | 17:33 |
agateau | afiestas: unfortunately we inherit Debian pickiness here, not sure we can avoid this | 17:33 |
afiestas | agateau: first thing I said "I know we can't change this" | 17:34 |
yofel | not reall, we work from the same policy | 17:34 |
agateau | afiestas: the only workaround iirc is ppa | 17:34 |
yofel | *really | 17:34 |
* shadeslayer notes that copyright is probably the most time consuming part | 17:34 | |
agateau | have a beta ppa which can be used to quickly push packages, then get proper copyrighted packages in the archive | 17:35 |
yofel | PPA's have some copyright rules as well, it's not like you can put _anything_ in there | 17:35 |
shadeslayer | ^ | 17:35 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: got links to those copyright files? your kbreakout you posted earlier has timed out | 17:35 |
agateau | yofel: sure, but it doesn't seem to be much of a problem if we look at neon | 17:35 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: lemme check | 17:35 |
yofel | it's not a problem as long nobody cares | 17:36 |
shadeslayer | drat | 17:36 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: all links timeout, I'll just ask him to paste them 'forever' | 17:36 |
agateau | yofel: do you think people would start to care if we put kde beta and rc in a ppa? | 17:36 |
yofel | probably not... as long as we fix it later. Riddell ? | 17:37 |
Riddell | agateau: not from a legal view no | 17:37 |
Riddell | I just find it easier to get it sorted in development archive before doing backports to a ppa | 17:38 |
afiestas | we need scripts to make this more automatic imho | 17:40 |
afiestas | we can easily check modified files in the header area, new created files, and deleted files | 17:41 |
afiestas | at least give to the packager a hint of what to look at | 17:41 |
yofel | we do, they just don't really work for beta1 | 17:41 |
afiestas | yofel: why? | 17:41 |
yofel | lots of new dependencies etc. so it took a while until the packages built | 17:42 |
yofel | later on will be faster | 17:42 |
Riddell | new dependencies, new files, deleted files, new apis, new abis, broken abis | 17:43 |
* yofel makes his way home - bbl | 17:43 | |
Riddell | a large variety of changes needed | 17:43 |
Riddell | ScottK: ninjas build in new if you like to keep apol_ happy (and I do) | 17:44 |
apol_ | :D | 17:44 |
* shadeslayer goes off to fix bug in kdiamond | 17:47 | |
* Riddell is squatting in a closed library and wonders when the polis will show up | 17:48 | |
* agateau is off as well | 17:48 | |
ScottK | Riddell: I'm away from my computer now. I'll look at it later. Calligra-l10n in New tooif you could review. | 17:49 |
Riddell | ScottK: accepted! | 17:50 |
ScottK | Thanks. | 17:54 |
Riddell | hmm I just looked at the debian packaging to see how they're managing with kdegames but the recent uploads are 4.8.4.. | 17:55 |
hrw | hej | 18:07 |
hrw | does someon know why /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kscreenlocker_greet takes 12% of cpu all the time? | 18:08 |
hrw | it is huge amount of power... | 18:09 |
afiestas | hrw: it shouldn't | 18:09 |
hrw | ok, got down to 4% but still | 18:10 |
afiestas | hrw: which version of kde are you using? | 18:10 |
hrw | raring-proposed one | 18:10 |
afiestas | no idea of what is | 18:11 |
hrw | 4:4.9.80-0ubuntu7 | 18:11 |
afiestas | oks, then is the new screen locker | 18:11 |
afiestas | can you install debug symbols for it, and then do some debugging? | 18:11 |
hrw | yes, the one which requires me to enter password twice. | 18:11 |
afiestas | twice_ | 18:11 |
hrw | not today I'm afraid | 18:11 |
afiestas | ? | 18:11 |
afiestas | :s | 18:11 |
afiestas | only once here | 18:12 |
hrw | on previous version when I pressed Backspace + password it worked. now I wake up screen with Backspace, enter password, get 'wrong password' and enter it again | 18:12 |
hrw | ok, will try to find some time tomorrow to check what is wrong | 18:13 |
afiestas | backspace + password? | 18:13 |
hrw | to remove any chars I entered when screen was off | 18:14 |
afiestas | I'm quite lost :/ but report a bug pls | 18:14 |
afiestas | getting the new screen locker to the quality of the old one is important | 18:14 |
hrw | sure | 18:15 |
hrw | today I am out of home so not possible to check ;D | 18:15 |
hrw | have a nice day afiestas - have to go | 18:16 |
afiestas | hrw: you too | 18:19 |
shadeslayer | any ideas why k-d-s depends onlibnewt0.52 | 18:21 |
Riddell | * Use the new default virtual terminal color palette instead of forcing the | 18:23 |
Riddell | original one. (LP: #739943) | 18:23 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 739943 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "package kubuntu-default-settings 1:11.04ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739943 | 18:23 |
Riddell | * Depend on libnewt0.52 to make sure that the newt-palette alternatives are | 18:23 |
Riddell | registered. | 18:23 |
Riddell | -- Felix Geyer <debfx-pkg@fobos.de> Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:13:21 +0100 | 18:23 |
Riddell | says changelog | 18:23 |
shadeslayer | aha | 18:24 |
shadeslayer | okay | 18:24 |
yofel | re | 18:38 |
Riddell | what does re actually mean? | 18:39 |
yofel | Riddell: re-turned | 18:41 |
yofel | i.e. back | 18:41 |
Riddell | welcome back :) | 18:42 |
tsimpson | if we frown on public away messages, should not we frown on public back messages? ;) | 18:42 |
yofel | thanks ;) | 18:43 |
ronnoc | Darkwing: Does Blue Systems have any type of formal support services in place as of yet? If not, is it still a goal? | 20:07 |
Tm_T | ronnoc: wy specifically Blue Systems? | 20:12 |
ScottK | ronnoc: There's work in progress on making support contracts available. | 21:31 |
ScottK | For packaging lcms2, the symbol _cmsGetStockOutputFormatter@Base has gone missing. Any idea if we care. | 21:32 |
ronnoc | OK thanks ScottK. If you remember, can you ping me when there is something concrete? | 21:32 |
ScottK | I'm almost always glad to agree to things on the condition I remember to do it. | 21:33 |
ScottK | Calligra doesn't use it. | 21:35 |
yofel | lcms2 has a lot of rdepends, so i would say we care | 21:36 |
yofel | and it's used by krita from what I see | 21:36 |
ScottK | I'm downloading all the sources and I'll grep to see if it's used. | 21:39 |
ScottK | krita uses lcms, but not that symbol. | 21:40 |
ScottK | Riddell: You have mail on the ubuntu-release list. | 21:40 |
yofel | ok, now let's give this sru script a try... | 22:17 |
yofel | hm, bug 1081018 | 22:23 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1081018 in Kubuntu PPA "lose oxygen style with 4.9.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1081018 | 22:23 |
yofel | someone kill Trolltech.conf with fire | 22:24 |
ScottK | Riddell: Accepted ninja. Watch file doesn't work though. Ought to be fixed. | 22:28 |
yofel | hm, gnome-keyring killed the script, next try | 22:32 |
ScottK | lcms2 done. | 22:44 |
yofel | ScottK: is it fine if I mass-upload 4.9.3 to quantal-proposed? | 22:51 |
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* yofel uploads and hopes the release team won't strangle him | 23:49 | |
yofel | I'll do l10n tomorrow, forgot about it | 23:58 |
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