[02:06] <zacarias> What's the best way to suggest improvements for the next Kubuntu release?
[02:10] <ronnoc> zacarias: Probably the KDE forums or a well-written email to the KDE-devel mailing list
[02:10] <zacarias> ronnoc: Ok, thanks
[02:11] <ronnoc> zacarias: If I was really passionate about it, I would probably do both :)
[02:13] <zacarias> ronnoc: But it's probably Kubuntu-specific, rather than KDE. Things like changing that awful default wallpaper or changing the default icon set, among other minor things
[02:14] <ronnoc> zacarias: Challel #kubuntu-devel is where the Kubuntu devs hang out
[02:14] <ronnoc> :)
[02:17] <zacarias> ronnoc: But it's more for developers, people with code suggestions, etc, I guess. Maybe I will be kicked if I dare to suggest those things...
[02:18] <ronnoc> zacarias: If it's well thought out and you're polite, you have nothing to worry about
[02:19] <zacarias> ronnoc: ;-) Thanks
[02:39] <ronnoc> zacarias: anytime
[03:09] <newbie|4> Hello. I have problem. http://s1.ipicture.ru/uploads/20121129/qklvG47Q.png This window not hide if i wrote passworld (always only after night) why and how i can kill|hide them?
[03:10] <newbie|4> they not active, i cant push any button on they.
[03:37] <nine_> that looks like wallet settings
[03:39] <newbie|4> newer configure whey
[03:43] <newbie|4> this is "lock screen" window
[05:15] <artao> anyone live? in particular anyone familiar with mesa??
[05:16] <artao> i just noticed that I have a couple i386 packages installed, but I'm on a 64-bit system
[05:16] <artao> i'm experiencing ridicu-slow framerates in the planetarium software Stellarium, but nowhere else
[05:21] <BluesKaj> artao, depends on your gpu
[05:21] <artao> nvidia geforce gtx 560 Ti
[05:22] <artao> altho it USED TO BE an ATI x600
[05:23] <BluesKaj> nouveau should work or onr of the additiobal drivers in kmenu apps system
[05:24] <BluesKaj> additional
[05:24] <artao> i'm using nvidia's drivers
[05:25] <artao> which appears to be nouveau i guess
[05:26] <BluesKaj> do you have akonadi server and desktop search in system settings enabled?
[05:26] <artao> nope
[05:26] <artao> i turned that off
[05:27] <artao> it looks like BOTH nouveau and nvida drivers are installed?? O.o XD
[05:27] <artao> um
[05:27] <BluesKaj> dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[05:28] <BluesKaj> that should tell you the driver in use
[05:29] <artao> the nvidia drivers
[05:30] <BluesKaj> something  like , nvidia-current  304.51.really.304.43-0ubuntu1
[05:30] <artao> why would both nvidia drivers AND nouveau be installed? O.o
[05:30] <BluesKaj> is nouveau listed
[05:30] <artao> nvidia-current 304.64
[05:30] <artao> not with dpkg
[05:30] <artao> but synaptic shows it's installed
[05:30] <artao> which i don't recall doing
[05:31] <artao> i'm getting like 1.5 fps in Stellarium .. which is really really irritating
[05:31] <artao> it's dead in #stellarium usually
[05:32] <BluesKaj> yes but the one in use , sudo lshw -C video| grep driver
[05:32] <artao> they were saying my hardware accel wasn't enabled ... but all my other 3D OpenGL apps sure seem to run GREAT with the GTX560 Ti
[05:32] <artao> whoa! ummmm ... what'd that do?
[05:33] <BluesKaj> it will be card 0 , the default
[05:33] <artao> it displayed some odd text quickly .. and now says configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[05:34] <artao> over in #stellarium they were trying to tell me the problem is that I don't have /dev/dri
[05:34] <artao> ???
[05:35] <BluesKaj> nvidia-current 304.64 should be the default
[05:35] <artao> seems to be
[05:38] <BluesKaj> glxinfo | grep OpenGL , should show, OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 304.64
[05:40] <BluesKaj> or similar
[05:41] <artao> ja
[05:41] <artao> version string: 4.2.0 nvidia 304.64
[05:44] <BluesKaj> ok
[05:45] <artao> i dunno
[05:45] <artao> it seems like, for some reason, Stellarium isn't using hardware accel OpenGL
[05:45] <artao> hmm
[05:46] <artao> i'm lookin it up online too simultaneously here ... maybe i can FORCE hardware accel somehow
[05:46] <BluesKaj> stellarium settings and options ?
[05:46] <artao> nope
[05:47] <artao> config file maybe
[05:47] <artao> or CLI startup flags
[05:47] <artao> dunno yet
[05:47] <artao> #stellarium is totally inactive right now
[05:47] <artao> i'm taking an online astronomy course right now, thus i'd really like it to work like i KNOW it can
[05:48] <artao> dangit!! WORK STELLARIUM!!!!
[05:48]  * artao punches Stellarium
[05:48] <artao> time for tea
[05:48] <BluesKaj> well, it's late here . sacktime
[05:48] <artao> fair nuf
[05:48] <artao> thx BluesKaj
[05:48] <artao> =]
[05:49] <BluesKaj> np artao :)
[05:50] <BluesKaj> night
[06:09] <AlexZion> hi guys, I was trying to screencast my desktop using kdenlive but after coding the video looks completelly white, how to get a nice HD screencast using kdenlive !?!
[06:13] <bazhang> AlexZion, you wish to make an existing screencast look nice with kdenlive?
[06:14] <bazhang> which was the original screencast app?
[06:14] <AlexZion> no actually i0d like to use the feature of kdenlive to record my desktop and after that edit and export ....
[06:14] <bazhang> never knew it had that ability
[06:15] <bazhang> I've used Kazam for that
[06:15] <AlexZion> I remember few years ago , it was possible and really well implemented , but after some time , it just stops to works .....
[06:16] <AlexZion> yeah it's using recordmydesktop tp do it , well , do it , actually doesn't do anything ....
[06:16] <bazhang> I'd not use that one if at all possible
[06:16] <bazhang> !find kazam
[06:16] <AlexZion> anyway it was a really nice and confortable to manage some basic screencast ...
[06:17] <bazhang> kazam is far superior in that respect, even eidet
[06:17] <AlexZion> ok bazhang I'll check it out .....
[06:17] <bazhang> !find eidit
[06:18] <bazhang> so eidit is from a PPA, but one or both can do quite clear screencasts, obviating the need for clean up later
[06:19] <AlexZion> ok , kazam has an interface !?!
[06:20] <bazhang> yep
[06:24] <AlexZion> well it should , but seems it doesn't works ...
[06:25] <AlexZion> thansk anyway bazhang .....
[06:39] <davide_> ciao a tutti
[06:40] <Tm_T> moin
[06:42] <davide_> come si usa questo sistema scusate ma io sono nuovo
[08:17] <vbgunz_> is discard an enabled option by default for a btrfs fs?
[08:17] <vbgunz_> I'm looking at fstab and don't see an option, I am curious if adding it is superflous?
[08:19] <jdub> km\
[08:24] <thecaptain2000> hi, I connected an external monitor to my laptop but the max resolution is detected incorrectly. How can I simply add it? I added the mode to xrandr, but that mode does not show up in monitor configuratio. I could set an xorg.conf by hand, but that is not a nice way as I would have a problem every time I disconnect it. How can I add a mode line to this monitor resolution so I can just select it on display settings?
[08:31] <Smurphy> thecaptain2000: You can't through dynamic configuration. You will have to add it to the xorg.conf file manually and restart X.
[08:31] <Smurphy> Note - that if it is not displayed properly by the autodetection, then you Monitor does not provide the data...
[08:44] <thecaptain2000> Smurphy: I have used this monitor before (althought using a different port) and it was providing data
[08:44] <thecaptain2000> Smurphy: this mus be the first time I connect this monitor using the VGA port though
[08:46] <Smurphy> Yes - well - it could be the Graphic card Digital to Analog converter is not capable of handling that bandwidth...
[08:47] <thecaptain2000> Smurphy: no, I could send the xrandr command by hands ans I can use that resolution with that monitor, the problem is why it does not get autodetected
[08:47] <Smurphy> On the analog port - you can send it that resolution ?
[08:48] <Smurphy> Check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file - it is written in there - what the EDID reports to the graphic card.
[08:53] <thecaptain2000> Smurphy: yes, I am using it now at the correct resolution set by hands, of course, since I have two monitors (the external and the laptop's) the whole screen is a bit of a mess
[08:55] <Smurphy> This - I can believe. I am using a DVI-Switch to switch between my 3 systems in use here. Only - I always use DVI ports - as I don't know who invented the stupid Digital to Analog port conversion...
[08:55] <Smurphy> but converting digital data to Analog and back to digital is breaindead.
[08:56] <thecaptain2000> I went to check the log file, it seems like it only rtie e modelines, starting from 1024x760 down to 640x480
[08:58] <thecaptain2000> and if I launch xrandr by itself, indeed those 3 are the only one detected
[08:59] <Smurphy> thecaptain2000: Seems the max pixels is the lkimiting factor after all ?
[08:59] <thecaptain2000> not sure what you are feferring to here
[08:59] <thecaptain2000> *referring
[13:02] <ovidiu-florin> hello, when will the upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10  be available?
[13:03] <thelionroars> its available now
[13:04] <thelionroars> go into Muon package manager and go to software sources
[13:04] <thelionroars> then change the checkbox about only using LTS upgrades
[13:20] <ovidiu-florin> thelionroars: Normal Releases?
[13:22] <thelionroars> ovidiu-florin, yes
[13:22] <thelionroars> as opposed to LTS (long term service) releases
[13:22] <ovidiu-florin> got it
[13:22] <ovidiu-florin> what exactly will change if I upgrade?
[13:23] <thelionroars> sorry, it was software centre not package manager but you've got it :)
[13:23] <thelionroars> you will get a newer kernel and packages for some software
[13:23] <ovidiu-florin> since this is my development system, I can't have any crashes or problems on it.
[13:23] <ovidiu-florin> is there a list somewhere with these packages?
[13:24] <thelionroars> I had trouble on my laptop with the new version of GRUB, but that seemed to be because I was using ext2 for boot partition
[13:24] <thelionroars> not sure, someone else can field that
[13:25] <ovidiu-florin> thelionroars: thank you for your help
[13:31] <simplew> Riddell: ping
[14:20] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[14:21] <sevenhill> lordievader: good afternoon
[14:22] <lordievader> Hey sevenhill, how are you?
[14:23] <melter> is there any way to get rid of the constant prompts to install Flash?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:40] <diahane> hey guys and girls here is a free open source site http://bitfungus.org/ feel free to contribuite on that, we would like to make your/our life easier when searching for code resources, sorry for my bad english, if you want you can add your own resource link or third parties one
[14:44] <frankko> is libkgapi available somewhere for kubuntu?
[14:44] <frankko> or would i have to install from source?
[14:45] <Peace-> frankko: sudo apt-cache search stuff
[14:45] <frankko> i know that, but i am not in precise at the moment
[14:45] <frankko> i know it is in quantal
[14:45] <frankko> but i prefer to run lts
[14:47] <lordievader> frankko: In the 12.04 repo is: libkgapi0, libkgapi-dev and libkgapi0-dbg.
[14:50] <frankko> lordievader: thanks
[14:52] <frankko> now i have to figure out how to use it as well =P
[14:52] <frankko> hehe
[15:38] <cjae> does the back and forth button on mouse work to control file manager (dolphin) in 12.10
[16:07] <skfin>  /w 63
[16:08] <BluesKaj> skfin, ?
[16:09] <skfin> Alias for /window in my irssi
[16:09] <skfin> --> I failed a bit there
[16:51] <cjae> really ...nobody here knows if their mouse back and forth buttons controll dolphin?
[16:53] <Tm_T> cjae: I don't use those buttons for back and worth, but something else, so I have no idea if those works on that purpose
[16:53] <cjae> may I ask what you use them for?
[16:54] <Tm_T> middle button under thumb
[16:55] <Tm_T> the other side is simply disabled usually, I won't use it anyway
[17:28] <klausl> Hello!
[17:28] <klausl> Is this only a english support channel?
[17:29] <DaZ> probably.
[17:29] <klausl> DaZ: Hello!
[17:29] <DaZ> hai.
[17:30] <klausl> DaZ: I can`t install Kubuntu.
[17:30] <DaZ> this can be a problem :v
[17:31] <klausl> DaZ: I can boot from the DVD. But after I click install on Kubuntu done nothing.
[18:47] <Katbuntu> hey
[18:49] <levi501d> aloha, does anyone have any recommendations for a dualband N pci card for linux?
[18:50] <levi501d> im sure linux is implied just like to make sure :D
[18:51] <levi501d> i bought a tp-link dual band a couple days ago, and its semi supported, only runs in wireless b/g 54 @ ~200k/s
[18:51] <levi501d> tossed that, but now i have no idea what i can get
[18:51] <levi501d> would rather have something on the pci express bus rather than on usb
[19:00] <dabauer> I snapped a picture with my digital camera. It uploaded it, and showed it but I forgot the name of the program
[19:00] <dabauer> I thought it was photowell, but that is not a program
[19:01] <lordievader> dabauer: I think you mean Shotwell
[19:01] <lordievader> !shotwell
[19:01] <dabauer> OK, I'll try that one.
[19:01] <lordievader> !info shotwell
[19:03] <dabauer> it worked, thanks!!!
[19:04] <lordievader> dabauer: No problem, glad I could be of help.
[19:14] <Scunizi> Is there a way to orient 2 open instances of Dolphin horizontally, one on top and one on the bottom, with equal screen space like you can going side to side?
[19:46] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: plasma-mediaplayer needs qtmultimediakit to be installed, but the package is not a package present in project neon, is there a way to install from the normal channel ?
[19:46] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: plasma-mediaplayer needs qtmultimediakit to be installed, but the package is not present in project neon, is there a way to install from the normal channel ?
[19:47] <yofel> yes, but it won't work with the archive package, it's broken right now
[19:47] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: which one>
[19:47] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: the plasma-mediacenter?
[19:47] <yofel> yes
[19:48] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: why is qtmultimediakit is not included in project neon?
[19:49] <yofel> because it uses qmake which makes packaging it a 1-2h job, which nobody really had the time for so far
[19:49] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: ok
[19:50] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: for custom packages to be included i should use /opt/project-neon/usr during compiling?
[19:52] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: no, /opt/project-neon/ is fine
[19:52] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: if it's cmake use neon-env + neon-cmake
[19:53] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: ya reading the webpage that you gave now. that will help, ty
[20:07] <Buffer> joind #flood
[20:07] <Buffer> join #flood
[20:12] <markovh> on the task manager bar on the default panne, i remove the launchers but they keep reappearing when i restart. is there anyway to keep them off?
[20:13] <markovh> on 12.04
[20:20] <InspectorCluseau> markovh, system tools > startup applications
[20:22] <markovh> InspectorCluseau: o.O
[20:23] <markovh> InspectorCluseau: this isn't an application it's a launcher on the desktop pannel
[20:23] <InspectorCluseau> did you look at the startup folder?
[20:24] <markovh> don't see it actually. where is system tools? or do you mean system settings?
[20:25] <InspectorCluseau> settings
[20:25] <markovh> there is no startup applcations there
[20:26] <InspectorCluseau> mine shows startup and shutdown under system administration
[20:27] <markovh> ok that's there but you did say startup applications
[20:28] <InspectorCluseau> whatever ...
[20:28] <markovh> now what?
[20:29] <InspectorCluseau> hovrt the mouse over it ... see autostart?
[20:29] <InspectorCluseau> it's in that folder
[20:30] <InspectorCluseau> I got rid of those launchers a while back ... googled the solution. I don't recall the exact solution.
[20:30] <lordievader> markovh: This might help: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=106744
[20:31] <InspectorCluseau> I have since gotten rid of the bottom paneland installed plank instead and put a panel on the top.
[20:41] <phoenix_firebrd> markovh: hi
[20:41] <markovh> phoenix_firebrd: o/
[20:41] <phoenix_firebrd> markovh: Do you mean kmenu as launcher?
[20:42] <markovh> no launcher in task manager, i think InspectorCluseau's link solved it
[20:42] <markovh> i'll have to reboot at some stage and try
[20:42] <phoenix_firebrd> markovh: you mean the system tray or the taskmanager widget?
[20:43] <InspectorCluseau> don't reboot ... just logout and login
[20:44] <InspectorCluseau> anyway the changes should be immediate
[20:44] <phoenix_firebrd> markovh: just saw the page that InspectorCluseau gave, did it solve ?
[20:44] <markovh> phoenix_firebrd: i don't know yet
[20:44] <markovh> i'm not in a position to log out just yet
[20:44] <phoenix_firebrd> markovh: ok
[20:45] <markovh> i'll let you know
[20:45] <InspectorCluseau> ot was lordievader link
[20:45] <phoenix_firebrd> markovh: so the picture shown in the webpage was the problem?
[20:46] <lordievader> Hehe ;)
[20:47] <InspectorCluseau> I prefer plank for the bottom ... pretty eyecandy icons
[20:47] <markovh> yeah it's solved
[20:48] <lordievader> markovh: Good to hear :)
[20:48] <InspectorCluseau> you can use cairo if you want 2d and motion
[20:48] <phoenix_firebrd> markovh: ok
[20:48] <InspectorCluseau> 3d
[20:48] <phoenix_firebrd> good night all
[20:49] <lordievader> Or you simply use a lot of keyboard shortcuts and no dock and a minimal task-bar.
[20:50]  * InspectorCluseau too old to memorize all the keyboard shortcuts
[21:46] <du> Hello user!
[21:47] <du> Are there anybody to read me?
[21:49] <lordievader> !ask | du
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[21:54] <du> ubottu, what will You do soon?
[21:54] <lordievader> !german | du
[21:58] <du> Bye users, wish you nice dreams to night! May be online tomorrow!
[22:33] <du> A hostname is not important for a lot of fun!