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dholbachgood morning08:00
Rcartgood morning daniel o/08:08
dholbachhi Rcart08:10
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obounaimHello,10:42
bdrungdholbach: thanks for the "clearing the queue" mail. the only solution, i came up with, was to throw more people at the queue.11:27
dholbachyes11:27
dholbachI just had a look at ~10 entries in there11:27
dholbachif we all help out, and everybody with upload rights should, we'll get there11:28
bdrungdholbach: can we have a list of sponsor items associated with the last uploader?11:31
bdrungthen we could poke people at looking at the sponsor request instead of just asking in general11:31
dholbachhum, I'm not quite sure what you'd like to do11:32
bdrungdholbach: https://code.launchpad.net/~logan/ubuntu/raring/scheme2c/debian-merge/+merge/136770 -> is that done? if yes, why is it still in the queue?11:32
dholbachit's uploaded, but the merge has not happened in LP yet11:32
bdrungdholbach: can we get it technically out of the queue? maybe setting: in progress or checking -proposed?11:33
bdrungexample for my idea: bug 1075994 -> package lvm2 -> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lvm2/2.02.95-5ubuntu1 -> last uploader: xnox11:34
dholbachbdrung, I don't know - I'll mark it as merged when it's merged in LP11:34
dholbachah, no, that's not easy to be done :-/11:35
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bdrungdholbach: where should the uploaded branch pushed to? ubuntu:package?12:02
dholbachbdrung, I usually wait for LP to automatically merge it :)12:02
dholbachbut yes12:03
xnoxbdrung: hm?12:11
xnoxbdrung: hmm that needs more work. Ok i'll get around to it.12:12
bdrungxnox: i gave dholbach an example how to poke people to do sponsoring (by determing the last uploader)12:17
xnoxbdrung: very scientific =)12:17
xnox /msg bdrung shhhh don't give the secrets away to dholbach12:18
* xnox whoops12:18
bdrungxnox: but it seams to work (in this small case example) :D12:18
bdrungdholbach: btw, is logan ready for MOTU?12:28
dholbachbdrung, I just sent him a d-a-t mail about the same topic earlier today ;-)12:54
dholbachI believe he is12:54
dholbachI'll let you know about his reply12:55
bdrungdholbach: d-a-t?12:56
dholbachdev advisory team12:56
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xnoxmicahg: Laney: dholbach: bdrung: MOTU meeting in 10 minutes15:50
Laneyholy15:50
xnoxor so my calendar tells me =)15:50
* xnox may or may not be even/odd week out of sync15:51
* Laney has no idea15:51
Laneywe missed loads15:51
dholbachlet's do it in any case :)15:51
xnoxwill that be the first one in raring ? =)15:51
Laneysure15:51
Laneyit's a good side activity while i'm breaking the archive15:52
Laneymuhahaha15:52
xnoxLaney: well we can agreed on what to break next ;-)15:52
* tumbleweed adjurns to the pub, where I'll stick my nose into the meeting15:59
dholbachshall we?16:00
ScottKHere or -meeting?16:00
* Laney points over there16:01
dholbachMOTU Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting16:01
aboudreaultwith dpkg-deb -I mypackage.deb. I see: Depends: ....., libproj0,16:04
aboudreaulthow can I get it to put libproj0 (>= 4.8) ?16:04
aboudreaultI specified my version in the build-depends on my control...16:04
TheLordOfTimeaboudreault, in the control file, under Depends, make sure it says libproj0 (>= 4.8)16:04
aboudreaultwell, we use: ${shlibs:Depends},16:05
aboudreaultI see a lot of other dep packages that are with their version number, why not libproj0?16:05
TheLordOfTimeif you want it to define a specific minimum requirement for libproj0, add it yourself.16:05
aboudreaultbut why other packages are ok? ie. libgeos-c1 (>= 3.3.3)16:06
aboudreaultwith only shlibs16:06
TheLordOfTimeisnt shlibs:Depends 's output an automated detection system...?16:06
TheLordOfTimeor something.16:06
aboudreaultyes.16:06
aboudreaulttrying to see why it works for all other packages16:07
aboudreaultmy control file: http://pastebin.com/zp0nwdP416:08
aboudreaultand the dpkg-deb -I output: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libcurl3-gnutls (>= 7.16.2-1), libfreetype6 (>= 2.2.1), libfribidi0 (>= 0.19.2), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libgd2-xpm (>= 2.0.36~rc1~dfsg), libgdal1 (>= 1.9.0), libgeos-c1 (>= 3.3.3), libgif4 (>= 4.1.4), libjpeg8 (>= 8c), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4), libpq5, libproj0, libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1), libxml2 (>= 2.7.4)16:09
Laneylibproj doesn't call dh_makeshlibs with -V and doesn't have a symbols file or other override, so its reverse dependencies don't get versioned deps16:10
TheLordOfTimeLaney, for versioned deps, it'd need to be explicitly defined, righit?16:11
TheLordOfTime(i.e. the packager defines it manually?)16:11
TheLordOfTimefor that one dependency (libproj)16:12
aboudreaultLaney, this would be IN the proj package?16:12
Laneyright16:12
Laneywhy do you need the version?16:13
aboudreaultbecause we did an upgrade.... but now my package thinks that the old libproj0 is OK... but it isn't16:13
highvoltageo/16:13
aboudreaultsince the ABI changed.16:13
highvoltage(that's a hello, for disambiguation purposes)16:14
aboudreaulthighvoltage, that's not a hello, it means you have a question. thanks for the explanation :P16:14
aboudreaultLaney, well... another package (that works) just call dh_makeshlibs -- -c0, and proj call dh_makeshlibs -a16:15
ScottKaboudreault: If the abi changed, it should have a new soname.16:16
LaneyI suppose he means new symbols16:17
ScottKMaybe.16:17
aboudreaultit's new package, from 4.7 -> 4.816:17
ScottKAt least a new soversion.16:17
aboudreaultI see16:17
Laneyaboudreault: does that other package have a debian/*.symbols file?16:17
aboudreaultno it doesn't16:18
Laneywhat is it?16:18
aboudreault?16:18
Laneywhich package16:18
aboudreault*proj*16:18
Laneythe one that you say works16:19
aboudreault*gdal* works16:19
aboudreaultgdal has .symbols file16:19
Laneythat'll be why16:19
Laneyyou might like to submit a patch for proj to give it a symbols file16:19
mitya57dholbach: can I commit this to u-p-g: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1394918/?16:19
mitya57hey btw :)16:20
dholbachmitya57, sure, feel free to run 'make gettext' at the same time16:20
aboudreaultLaney, .symbols file have to be generated manually?16:20
dholbachmitya57, how did the ppa builds of sphinx go? did you copy them over to the packaging guide ppa?16:20
Laneyaboudreault: there are tools to help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/stefanlsd/dpkg-gensymbols16:22
aboudreaultLaney, yes, but should I add this IN my debian/rules, or simply add the symbol files myself?16:22
Laneyyou need to create a symbols file yourself and put that into debian/16:22
Laneythe build system will then check if new symbols appear/disappear by looking at that file16:22
Laneyand then you amend things as necessary16:23
mitya57dholbach, I managed to upload it to my ppa only today, not built yet16:23
aboudreaultLaney, ok, we'll give this a try16:23
dholbachmitya57, gotcha16:23
mitya57dholbach, for some reason ubuntu tarball of sphinx is not really dfsg and contains files that were removed in debian16:24
dholbachhum - did it get uploaded in Ubuntu first?16:24
dholbachno16:25
dholbachhm16:25
dholbachit was introduced to Ubuntu through https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sphinx/1.1.3+dfsg-2ubuntu116:25
mitya57I see, yes16:25
dholbachso theoretically the tarball should not differ from Debian16:25
micahgmitya57: are you sure it's the tarball and not some source format 3 silly reversion?16:28
mitya57micahg: well, md5sums on packages.debian.org and packages.ubuntu.com differ...16:29
micahgmitya57: ah, that's annoying...16:29
Laneywhat's the right BD for --with python2?16:42
* Laney again shows his ignorance of all things cool16:42
Laney'python'?16:43
micahgLaney: one of many...16:45
Laneythat package appears to have Sequence/python2.pm16:46
micahgLaney: from the Debian wiki: Bump minimum required python-all (or python, python-dev, python-all-dev) package version to 2.6.6-3~16:46
micahg    (read /usr/share/doc/python/changelog.Debian.gz to check if you need a newer version)16:46
Laneyheh16:46
tumbleweedthat's the version I use. You can get away with a slightly lower version in Ubuntu16:46
tumbleweedbut I think that's only useful for releases that are no longer supported16:46
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Laneyta16:47
micahgtumbleweed: lucid is quite supported :)16:49
tumbleweedmicahg: no dh_python2 on lucid16:50
tumbleweedit first appeared in maverick, with a version lower than 2.6.6-3~ IIRC16:50
micahgtumbleweed: exactly :)16:50
micahgit prevents stuff from breaking on lucid16:51
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mitya57dholbach, it decided to not build on precise: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/124426398/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-i386.sphinx_1.1.3%2Bdfsg-5ubuntu1~ppa1~12.04_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz17:01
mitya57https://launchpadlibrarian.net/124426398/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-i386.sphinx_1.1.3%2Bdfsg-5ubuntu1~ppa1~12.04_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz17:01
mitya57AssertionError: latex exited with return code 117:01
dholbachmitya57, I think we have a bug open about it, might be good to follow up on there with a link to the build log17:02
mitya57dholbach, which bug?17:04
Rcart_hello there, I'm working on a bug present since 11.10: bug 94319517:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 943195 in xpdf (Ubuntu) "xpdf.real crashed with SIGSEGV in GooHash::hash()" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94319517:05
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Rcartthe bug is reported in upstream, with patch available but not applied17:05
dholbachmitya57, I would need to go and find it17:06
RcartI've successfuly applied the patch in precise, and the bug is corrected17:06
dholbachmitya57, ok, we might need a new bug - it's gone :)17:07
mitya57where was it at least — on LP or on bitbucket?17:07
Rcartand I would like to know if that fix is could be a SRU17:08
dholbachon LP - I believe it was a packaging guide bug, as it was mostly just relevant to us and our PPA17:08
mitya57dholbach, the version currently in ppa (-4ubuntu4) built on precise17:11
mitya57and I don't see anything in -5 changelog that could cause the failure17:12
dholbachmh, no idea right now17:12
mitya57I'll now try to add l10n_fixes.diff to that (built) version and try to build that17:14
mitya57Rcart, it would be good to have that SRUed but the fix needs to land in raring first17:15
dholbachthanks mitya5717:19
dholbachI'll have to rush out in a bit17:19
dholbachso thanks again for your work on this!17:19
mitya57I'll copy the quantal version now anyway17:19
dholbachthanks mitya5717:25
Rcartmitya57: in raring, the patch available (in debian) for that xpdf specific version rejects17:25
mitya57Rcart, so you should fix that I think17:25
Rcarta SRU cannot fit a previous release while not fixed in development version?17:26
Laneyhahaha17:36
Laneyxnox: so it /was/ the wrong week (-motu@)17:37
xnoxLaney: I don't know who broke the order (UDS?), it's in my calendar for this week....17:37
mitya57Rcart, yes, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure17:37
* micahg thought so17:37
Laneyoh well17:38
micahgxnox: your calendar doesn't take into account 5 Thursday months :)17:47
xnoxmicahg: it does.17:48
xnoxmicahg: unless there are special rules around motu meetings and 5 thursday months =)17:49
micahgxnox: yes, we skip the 5th Thursday :017:49
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Rcartmitya57: Ok, thanks (:18:15
aboudreaultdoes anyone have tested the open build service ?19:58
cody-somervilleI've played with it.20:04
aboudreaultcody-somerville, how is it? does it build proper source packages for official debian/ubuntu etc??20:07
cody-somervilleNo, the source packages are not proper the last time I checked.20:07
cody-somervilleYou have to upload sort of a hybrid thing.20:07
cody-somervilleand the repository it creates is flat20:07
aboudreaultI see20:08
cody-somervilleThe service overall has some really great features though20:09
cody-somervilleand there's some integration with the Suse Studio image build service as well which is real nice20:09
jtayloris it normal that mongodb fills your disk when you start it? ...20:11
jtaylornow where did it puts its junk ...20:13
alo21hi all20:41
alo21I have a problem to build doc-debian20:41
alo21this is the make file http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1397706/20:42
alo21when i run pbuilder, I got this error: ERROR: Cannot find ~/debian/www/webwml/english to regenerate the sources. Please read the TODO.20:43
alo21and as you notice, this error is handled into the makefile20:43
micahgalo21: that should've been fixed with http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=69079120:45
ubottuDebian bug 690791 in doc-debian "building from source an inconvenient process" [Important,Fixed]20:45
alo21micahg: weird20:53
alo21micahg: what do you suggest?20:57
micahgidk, no time to look into it20:59
aboudreaultLaney, it works! Thanks a lot22:03
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bdrungcjwatson: which kind of packages build depend on devscripts?23:36
bdrungwhat do they need from devscripts?23:36

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