| jacobw2 | morning | 05:16 |
|---|---|---|
| AlanBell | morning | 07:00 |
| AlanBell | nice full moon this morning | 07:01 |
| hoover | morning all | 07:59 |
| === TheOpenSourcerer is now known as theopensourcerer | ||
| popey | morning | 08:07 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 08:09 |
| andylockran | howdy | 08:20 |
| andylockran | gosh it's cold | 08:20 |
| diplo | Morning | 08:34 |
| MooDoo | hello all | 08:56 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:10 |
| MooDoo | hello davmor2 me ol' mucka | 09:10 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: why aye man | 09:11 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: How be ya | 09:11 |
| === Ng_ is now known as Ng | ||
| MooDoo | davmor2: aye not too bad.... | 09:15 |
| s-fox | hi | 09:18 |
| davmor2 | reboot time | 09:18 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: hully | 09:20 |
| MooDoo | omg my typing is shit :S | 09:20 |
| s-fox | hully to you too MooDoo | 09:20 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! :-D | 09:24 |
| s-fox | how are you MooDoo ? | 09:24 |
| s-fox | hi jacobw2 | 09:24 |
| s-fox | and JamesTait | 09:25 |
| s-fox | ;) | 09:25 |
| JamesTait | s-fox, o/ | 09:25 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: I'm ok thank you | 09:26 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: Fancy Meeting you here :) | 09:29 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, fancy! | 09:29 |
| JamesTait | Seems like there are a few of us in the Midlands now, maybe we should set up a new office! :-P | 09:30 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: where are you? | 09:30 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, Derby. | 09:31 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: not that far then | 09:31 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, and you? | 09:31 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: nottingham :D | 09:31 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, not far indeed. :) | 09:31 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: ubuntu hour at the trip ;) | 09:32 |
| JamesTait | I think I knew that somehow. | 09:32 |
| MooDoo | I'm sure it's been discussed many a time lol | 09:32 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, do I have you on Google+? | 09:32 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: yeah just search for Paul Mellors | 09:33 |
| JamesTait | Right, that's where I know you from then. :-P | 09:33 |
| * s-fox looks on map for derby.... | 09:33 | |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: i've just added you to a circle so you should see me | 09:33 |
| JamesTait | My ircnick<->realname converter is playing up. | 09:34 |
| JamesTait | I blame old age. | 09:34 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: you're not that old are you? | 09:34 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, depends who you ask. According to my kids I'm ancient. :-P | 09:34 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: snap! | 09:34 |
| s-fox | ah, west of nottingham. my geography is rubbish | 09:35 |
| JamesTait | s-fox, where are you? | 09:35 |
| s-fox | here | 09:35 |
| s-fox | :D | 09:35 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: It's when I hit 40 last year they told me this lol | 09:35 |
| JamesTait | Didn't we have a map of this somewhere? | 09:35 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, oh you *are* ancient then! :-P I'm only 36. | 09:35 |
| MooDoo | http://ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we/ | 09:35 |
| JamesTait | Yes, MooDoo, that one. :) | 09:36 |
| MooDoo | :) | 09:36 |
| MooDoo | oh yeah i noticed there is no planet ubuntu-uk any more.... | 09:37 |
| s-fox | my pin has gone missing :/ | 09:37 |
| s-fox | *terrible news* | 09:37 |
| MooDoo | anyone know why ubuntu-uk has stopped feeding, too much work? | 09:37 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, I think it was discussed at a recent LoCo meeting. | 09:39 |
| MooDoo | oh right, that's a shame. enjoyed reading that. | 09:39 |
| s-fox | hmm, failed to download repo info for a couple of ppa stops software updater | 09:39 |
| s-fox | *that sucks* | 09:39 |
| daftykins | 0o | 09:40 |
| s-fox | JamesTait, I'm in the middle between Leicester and Coventry | 09:40 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: yeah was proposed on the 14th nov, that's a shame really | 09:40 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, I think there was quite a lot of work involved in keeping everything we do running, and not enough volunteers to help do it. | 09:43 |
| bigcalm_laptop | Morning peeps | 09:44 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: hmmm I think we need a volunteer page, i'd be up for maintaining the planet feed....I used to read that lol | 09:44 |
| daftykins | hey | 09:44 |
| s-fox | good morning bigcalm_laptop | 09:45 |
| s-fox | i never really understood why uk has a feed - unless it was for UK events. Ubuntu related news is news regardless of location | 09:46 |
| MooDoo | It was nice to see what the UK community was up to in their daily lifes....I liked reading it. | 09:46 |
| s-fox | MooDoo, was it any content or ubuntu specific ? | 09:47 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: anything if i remember rightly it was an insight into the lifes and minds of the ububuntu uk community. | 09:48 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, yeah, it didn't have to be Ubuntu-specific. | 09:48 |
| s-fox | an insight into my mind...scary thought. lol | 09:48 |
| s-fox | MooDoo, how goes the photography ? | 09:50 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: it goes lol | 09:50 |
| daftykins | laughing photography, curious | 09:51 |
| s-fox | i've only taken one picture all month properly MooDoo | 09:51 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: I've taken loads | 09:51 |
| s-fox | :) | 09:51 |
| MooDoo | daftykins: I take a photo, look at the screen and laugh ;) | 09:51 |
| s-fox | quality over quantity ;) | 09:52 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: keep telling yourself that ;) | 09:52 |
| s-fox | i do | 09:52 |
| s-fox | anyway, you've seen my work and how picky i am hehe | 09:52 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: I did a gimp talk at my local camera club a few weeks ago, that went down well | 09:53 |
| s-fox | cool | 09:54 |
| s-fox | MooDoo, i am looking forward to the winter. i am going to try and get some ice / frost shots | 09:54 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: that'll look good | 09:54 |
| s-fox | maybe some spiderwebs | 09:55 |
| MooDoo | yeah i got a few of them at the weekend, didn't come out all that well though | 09:55 |
| s-fox | :/ | 09:55 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: problem is i'm to dependant on photoshop and lightroom at the moment lol | 09:57 |
| s-fox | nothing wrong with photoshop | 09:58 |
| s-fox | my editor of choice is that | 09:58 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: a bit expensive at£17 a month, don't think i'll be renewing at the end of the year | 09:59 |
| s-fox | ahh, i made the investment of buying cs5 master collection MooDoo | 10:00 |
| gord | <3 lightroom | 10:00 |
| * JamesTait wonders if he should consider this photo software thing instead of just posting snapshots from hsi phone. | 10:01 | |
| JamesTait | s/hsi/his | 10:01 |
| DJones | \o/ 2nd screen plugged in and working with no issues | 10:02 |
| daftykins | DJones: i should hope so given the year we're in :) | 10:03 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: it's lovely isn't it.... | 10:03 |
| s-fox | yep | 10:03 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: i use cs6 at the moment, just shame the laptop isn't up to all the cool features lo.l | 10:05 |
| s-fox | lol :) | 10:05 |
| s-fox | MooDoo, i tend to get every other version | 10:05 |
| DJones | daftykins: Yeah, but this is on old hardware, I thought it might have choked | 10:05 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: I think I got this one as it's the first one to do a subscription model | 10:05 |
| daftykins | how old? | 10:06 |
| gord | <3 lightroom even more with multiple monitors | 10:07 |
| DJones | daftykins: Not sure on the age, but the graphics card is a Geforce FX5200 | 10:08 |
| daftykins | heh | 10:08 |
| DJones | Looking at release dates, probably near 10 years old | 10:08 |
| daftykins | is that down to what drivers you have available that it might not have worked then? | 10:09 |
| DJones | In a way, I thought with the age, some of the support may have been dropped, when I looked at upgrading to 12.10 I was warned that the graphics card may not be supported | 10:10 |
| daftykins | ah-har | 10:11 |
| DJones | Just looking for a gwibber replacement that has twitter, identi.ca and facebook capeabilities | 10:12 |
| DJones | Ah well, that plan seems dead, looks like its a facebook notification search instead | 10:18 |
| s-fox | isn't social media integrated into the unity menu yet? | 10:18 |
| MooDoo | i stopped using gwibber years ago, I did move to tweetdeck, don't think that has identi.ca support though | 10:24 |
| s-fox | afaik tweetdeck only supports twitter, linkedin facebook foursquare and myspace | 10:26 |
| s-fox | oh it did do buzz at one point oo | 10:26 |
| s-fox | too | 10:26 |
| s-fox | but yeah | 10:26 |
| bigcalm_laptop | Down side to working in a cafe: one has to be careful of links visited | 10:32 |
| MooDoo | bigcalm_laptop: microsoft.com isnt that bad ;) | 10:38 |
| s-fox | no worse than any other website | 10:39 |
| bigcalm_laptop | :P | 10:39 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone,, | 10:45 |
| bashrc | hi | 10:46 |
| brobostigon | hi bashrc | 10:46 |
| MooDoo | morning brobostigon sorry miles away there | 10:51 |
| brobostigon | morning MooDoo | 10:52 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm_laptop: What are you doing on the apple site? | 10:58 |
| bigcalm_laptop | *hiss* | 10:59 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm_laptop: you're hissing at it? | 10:59 |
| bokjhv | BTW My local Tesco has no 70p-a-box frosted shredded wheat left. I bought them all.. :) | 12:00 |
| daftykins | :O | 12:01 |
| daftykins | why so cheap? | 12:01 |
| bokjhv | Dunno .. shredded wheat King decree'd it. | 12:02 |
| bokjhv | Could show you receipt , if you like ? | 12:02 |
| bokjhv | I dont think I will actually, too much cables involved. | 12:03 |
| bokjhv | I was on #freegamer channel for 5 hours last night. Awesome. | 12:04 |
| daftykins | never heard of it | 12:04 |
| bokjhv | In fact I just feel awesome today.. me an awesome are one ! | 12:04 |
| bokjhv | **and | 12:04 |
| Guest34261 | Could anyone recommend me an Ubuntu-compatible 'ultrabook'. Ideally one with a nice high res 1080p screen? My main worry is graphics card support, since my present laptop has lots of problems with the Nvidia proprietary drivers. Thanks. | 12:15 |
| popey | which ultrabooks have 1080p screens? | 12:16 |
| popey | I thought most were 1366x768 or thereabouts | 12:16 |
| Guest34261 | That's kinda the problem. I don't actually care about the screen dimensions too much, just want something thin, lightweight and without extras like a DVD drive. | 12:18 |
| Guest34261 | Perhaps ultra book was the wrong term | 12:19 |
| gord | the new thinkpad yoga's look great | 12:19 |
| popey | "laptop" :) | 12:19 |
| Guest34261 | Yup | 12:19 |
| gord | like really really great, if i had more in the kitty i'd grab one up | 12:19 |
| Guest34261 | Laptop would have been a better start :-) | 12:19 |
| popey | so I'd use the ebuyer selector thing | 12:19 |
| Guest34261 | I'll Google the yoga. Thanks | 12:20 |
| popey | http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Computer/cat/Laptops | 12:20 |
| popey | and filter using the options on the left | 12:20 |
| Guest34261 | Ah, thanks, that looks useful. | 12:20 |
| Guest34261 | I'm on a GPRS connection at the moment, but will take a look at those suggestions as soon as I get better signal. Cheers | 12:22 |
| MooDoo | hello again all | 12:27 |
| bigcalm_laptop | Morning | 12:41 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: me owld mucka | 12:45 |
| bigcalm_laptop | This cafe is getting too busy for my liking | 12:47 |
| popey | interesting piece on radio 4 about people putting up QR codes which link to apps which contain malware | 12:51 |
| popey | even sticking qr codes over the top of legitimate ones on posters | 12:51 |
| popey | to capture credit card details | 12:51 |
| popey | fun :) | 12:51 |
| bigcalm_laptop | Oh, so that's what QR codes are useful for | 12:52 |
| popey | :) | 12:54 |
| popey | exactly what I thought | 12:54 |
| popey | "Oh, someone found a use for them!" | 12:55 |
| popey | http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2012/01/qr-code-malware-arrives/ | 12:56 |
| dwatkins | Qirus | 13:06 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: @_ | 13:14 |
| czajkowski | ah that's annoying I love QR codes :( | 13:15 |
| bigcalm_laptop | !ping | 13:16 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm_laptop: Pong! | 13:16 |
| bigcalm_laptop | Ta | 13:17 |
| bigcalm_laptop | We lack a bot | 13:18 |
| MooDoo | bigcalm_laptop: sounds like a faith no more song, or is that we care a lot ;) | 13:21 |
| AlanBell | what do people use for decoding QR codes? | 13:40 |
| AlanBell | I used to have a rather geeky android app for doing them, but I don't think that is something "real people" would use | 13:41 |
| popey | i use RL on iOS | 13:46 |
| popey | "Red Laser" | 13:46 |
| popey | it's more for scanning barcodes on products to get online prices | 13:46 |
| popey | I do this in shops to make sure I'm not getting ripped off | 13:46 |
| AlanBell | wonder how many people know how to use a QR code at all | 14:10 |
| AlanBell | right now, I am not one of them | 14:10 |
| kvarley | How can I list the permissions in terminal. I am looking for the 777, 775, 665 format. | 14:15 |
| jacobw2 | kvarley: chmod 777 <file> | 14:16 |
| popey | list, not change | 14:16 |
| jacobw2 | oh | 14:16 |
| popey | i dont think you can with ls, at least the man page doesn't say so | 14:16 |
| popey | but it's quite easy :) | 14:16 |
| popey | rwx | 14:16 |
| popey | 421 | 14:16 |
| kvarley | Or does anybody know the "default" permission code? | 14:16 |
| popey | alan@deep-thought:~$ touch foo | 14:17 |
| popey | alan@deep-thought:~$ ls -l foo | 14:17 |
| popey | -rw-rw-r-- 1 alan alan 0 Nov 29 14:16 foo | 14:17 |
| popey | that :) | 14:17 |
| popey | 664 | 14:17 |
| kvarley | popey: ok, thanks :) | 14:17 |
| popey | but thats for files in your home | 14:17 |
| popey | different for files in other places, and root owned files | 14:17 |
| dwatkins | and gives group writeable access (although nowadays, each user account has its own group) | 14:17 |
| kvarley | popey: What number does drwxrwxr-x equate to? | 14:17 |
| dwatkins | it's different for directories | 14:18 |
| popey | 775 | 14:18 |
| kvarley | popey: Ok, thanks | 14:18 |
| popey | rwx = 7, rwx = 7, r-x = 5 | 14:18 |
| dwatkins | well, different in that there's also the concept of traversing a directory to get to those below it | 14:18 |
| popey | 4+x+1, 4+2+1, 4+1 | 14:18 |
| jacobw2 | in the 3 digit form, the first number is owner, the second is group, ane third is others (or 'world') | 14:18 |
| === 20WABM4XS is now known as jussi | ||
| === jussi is now known as jussi01 | ||
| jacobw2 | +4 for read, +2 for write, and +1 for execute, it's from ascending binary numbers for execute, write and read | 14:20 |
| === jussi01 is now known as jussi | ||
| jacobw2 | as popey said | 14:20 |
| Danawar | i updated to 12.04 and my group wwwdata or www-data has gone missing should i recreate this or was it removed for some reason O.o | 14:39 |
| popey | http://www.dell.com/us/soho/p/xps-13-linux/pd.aspx | 14:40 |
| BigRedS | I had a thought the other day, for a website you can visit and it grabs your browser, flash, java, whatever version number and lists all the known vulnerabilities | 14:49 |
| BigRedS | somebody must've made this already, anyone know where it is? | 14:49 |
| gord | its called your next million dollar idea! | 14:54 |
| BigRedS | Aw man, that's another domain to buy and never use | 15:06 |
| popey | BigRedS, nice idea, then get it to charge you money to actually tell you what the vulnerabilities are | 15:06 |
| popey | whilst you poke their system via those vulnerabilities you found | 15:06 |
| popey | http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1211296-SU-1211294SU52 | 15:09 |
| popey | that looks good | 15:09 |
| popey | phoronix tests though so *shrug* :) | 15:10 |
| === Guest33668 is now known as issyl0 | ||
| === Mike is now known as Guest15487 | ||
| === Mike_ is now known as Guest34562 | ||
| bigcalm_laptop | davmor2: splitter! | 17:11 |
| * davmor2 splits bigcalm_laptop's screen from his keyboard | 17:12 | |
| bigcalm_laptop | Spiffy | 17:14 |
| theopensourcerer | Project Sputnik ships: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/dell-releases-powerful-well-supported-linux-ultrabook/ | 17:23 |
| MartijnVdS | .. in the us | 17:24 |
| theopensourcerer | :-P | 17:24 |
| MartijnVdS | ironically | 17:24 |
| BigRedS | aha | 17:25 |
| BigRedS | haha, even | 17:25 |
| theopensourcerer | I am rather fed up. Had a day of chasing bugs and not getting very far... Going for a beer. ttfn | 17:25 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 17:30 |
| daubers | ~ | 18:04 |
| daubers | sorry | 18:05 |
| daubers | kitten attack | 18:05 |
| Laney | that is a sorry attack indeed | 18:06 |
| Laney | do better next time, kitten | 18:06 |
| daubers | She's starting to lern that when she stands on the laptop, she get's put on the floor again | 18:08 |
| mgdm | it keeps the feet off the laptop else it gets the hose again | 18:09 |
| daubers | Quite hard to put her on the floor when she's so cute | 18:10 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| ahayzen | Hi, evolution-calendar-factory is using 100% CPU and has no way of stopping it (killall doesn't work), it also randomly prompts that it has crashed at boot, any ideas what is going on? Thanks | 18:56 |
| Azelphur | Anyone got a chromebook cr-48? Is it any good? | 18:56 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: I have the new ARM CHromebook | 19:39 |
| Azelphur | cool | 19:39 |
| MartijnVdS | and it's cool :) | 19:39 |
| MartijnVdS | haven't tried to run anything but chromeos on it though | 19:39 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 19:39 |
| bigcalm | Good evening peeps :) | 21:23 |
| dogmatic69 | sup bigcalm | 21:30 |
| bigcalm | Ale! | 21:30 |
| * bigcalm quaffs | 21:30 | |
| bigcalm | How do, dogmatic69? | 21:30 |
| popey | pip pip | 21:31 |
| bigcalm | Fnar fnar | 21:31 |
| bigcalm | What have I been missing out on recently? | 21:34 |
| bigcalm | That much? | 21:41 |
| dogmatic69 | bigcalm: all good. Getting my cart plugin finished up | 21:42 |
| bigcalm | Busy lad | 21:42 |
| bigcalm | I've been tempting suicide with unit testing | 21:42 |
| dogmatic69 | Tired of having to mess about with half decent shopping carts. | 21:42 |
| dogmatic69 | oh, I got my project 100% passing yesterday. Almost 2k tests. | 21:43 |
| dogmatic69 | This is a problem though... 'cat core.phpcs.txt | grep \| | wc -l' -> 8175 | 21:44 |
| bigcalm | phpunit keeps telling me that it's core dumping after doing --coverage. Not that I've seen any core dumps though. Well done on 100% :) | 21:44 |
| dogmatic69 | 8k 'coding standards' issues :/ | 21:45 |
| bigcalm | Ug | 21:46 |
| bigcalm | That's ps0? | 21:46 |
| dogmatic69 | things like if() should be if () | 21:46 |
| dogmatic69 | ye | 21:46 |
| bigcalm | Fun | 21:46 |
| dogmatic69 | well its using cakes cs config. | 21:46 |
| dogmatic69 | Trying to make it match cake as close as possible. | 21:47 |
| bigcalm | Yeah, it's difficult when the framework doesn't want to be standards compliant | 21:47 |
| dogmatic69 | cake is pretty good. They are doing ps* without the spaces afaik. | 21:48 |
| bigcalm | I can't remember what Symfony decided upon | 21:48 |
| bigcalm | I'm having a hateful time with phpdoc2 | 21:48 |
| dogmatic69 | ah, roadmap says 3.x finish psr0, implement psr1 | 21:48 |
| dogmatic69 | oh ye? | 21:49 |
| dogmatic69 | I used it here api.infinitas-cms.org | 21:49 |
| dogmatic69 | might look at something else. The docs are quite sparse for phpdoc... pretty ironic. | 21:50 |
| bigcalm | Yeah, I found that as well | 21:50 |
| bigcalm | I think my boss wants us to stick with phpdoc because it's using symfony2 now | 21:50 |
| dogmatic69 | building a doc gen in cake has crossed my mind. | 21:51 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 21:51 |
| bigcalm | I wonder if my trackball will come early and let me play with it tomorrow | 21:52 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| bootinfdsds | no-one about ! | 23:51 |
| directhex | yeah, it's dead tonight | 23:59 |
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