/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/11/29/#ubuntu-unity.txt

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MCR1didrocks: Hi :) Is it okay to add bug reports here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-unity-polish ?09:42
MCR1om26er: Hi :) Do you have a minute to reproduce and confirm a Compiz bug (easy to reproduce) ?09:43
didrocksMCR1: do you want to fix them?09:43
om26erMCR1, sure09:43
om26erhope it doesn't involve any compiling ;)09:44
MCR1didrocks: Sure, but I might fail with some of them - but it is also because of the papercuts project, which needs targets...09:44
didrocksmmrazik: can you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/xpathselect/copyright/+merge/13688309:44
didrocksMCR1: so please don't add them09:44
MCR1om26er: Nope.09:44
didrocksMCR1: maybe youneed another blueprint09:44
didrocksMCR1: but those are the ones we commit to fix in the cycle09:44
mmrazikdidrocks: so canonical prefers gpl3?09:45
MCR1didrocks: But important ones are really missing in this list09:45
om26erif a person has teeth outwards and triages bugs one could call him Bugs Bunny ^^ :D09:45
didrocksmmrazik: gpl3 or gpl2, but there is no sense to have 2 stenzas, one for upstream, one for the packaging09:46
didrocksmmrazik: and it should be copyright canonical anyway, not one any one's name09:46
MCR1om26er: It is this one: bug 108200109:46
mmrazikdidrocks: understood09:46
didrocksMCR1: well, important are relative :)09:46
MCR1didrocks: Windows jumping around from workspace to workspace ?09:47
mmraziklets see if the autolanding works :)09:47
MCR1bug 108200109:47
MCR1grmpf, what is wrong - no bot ?09:47
MCR1https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/108200109:47
MCR1om26er: ^^09:47
om26erMCR1, what could one do if they don't have numpad ?09:48
didrocksmmrazik: I had a double stenza, just pushed rev 25 and reapproved09:48
MCR1om26er: Then you might have to change the grid keyconfig in CCSM09:48
didrocksMCR1: this is an opportunity, but if you look at the list, we have way more important bugs to tackle first :)09:49
mmrazikdidrocks: FYI (still in progress): http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-unity-autopilot-raring/35/09:50
mmrazikdidrocks: I'll just need few more runs as build #34 had quite a bit of failures on nvidia (~10%)09:50
mmrazik#35 seems to be ok09:50
didrocksmmrazik: ok, great! :)09:50
mmrazikdidrocks: the failures from yesterday were a bug in our preseed (coming with the binary nvidia driver changes)09:51
mmrazikdist-upgrade failed so the stuff from staging ppa wasn't installed09:51
didrocksah great ;)09:51
didrocksso, let's cross fingers now09:51
om26erMCR1, yeah, the window hides from the spread for me09:52
MCR1didrocks: Do not misunderstand me, I just was asked by notgary to help with identifying valid Compiz/Unity bugs...09:52
om26erMCR1, but when i get back to the workspace the window reappears09:52
didrocksMCR1: no worry ;)09:52
MCR1om26er: The "keyboard-gridded" window should stay on the workspace it is, but it will follow the second window if you move it on another workspace ?09:54
MCR1which is quite nasty behavior isn't it ?09:54
om26erMCR1, yes, confirmed that as well09:55
om26erMCR1, i am marking bug as confirmed09:55
MCR1I think we should eliminate bugs like this, which move windows around without the user wanting it as those make Compiz feel really buggy09:56
MCR1om26er: Thanks 4 testing.09:56
om26erMCR1, i would rather love to see spread re-written, its full of all kinds of troubles ;)09:57
MCR1om26er: A lot of trouble comes from wrong grid behavior...09:58
MCR1om26er: For example this one is also tightly related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/108160109:59
om26erMCR1, I fully agree grid is broken as well :/10:00
MCR1here Grid holds the window in its place and does not let it leave...10:00
MCR1om26er: What are the spread troubles ?10:00
om26erMCR1, there is a list, first the overall look of it, doesn't match well with unity's overall design, then there are a few features from different shells that would make it usable (tm)10:03
MCR1om26er: If you are on it, please confirm this one also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/108160110:08
* om26er looks10:08
MCR1thx10:08
MCR1om26er: You are running Unity from the staging PPA ?10:14
om26erMCR1, yes I am and i have still not tested the above bug, got sidetracked, now testing10:14
MCR1:)10:15
om26erMCR1, compiz-plugins-extras not installable in staging ppa ?10:17
MCR1om26er: you do not need them, we now just have compiz-plugins10:18
MCR1showdesktop should be there10:18
om26ercompiz-plugins-extras depends compiz-plugins which is not installable :p10:19
MCR1one moment10:19
MCR1you just need compiz-plugins and compiz-plugins-default10:20
MCR1simply remove all the old metapackages10:20
MCR1aehm "transitional dummy packages"10:21
MCR1om26er: Got it ?10:21
om26erMCR1, there are a few updates installing, let me try after that. (almost one)10:22
om26er*done10:22
om26erMCR1, i am just purging the ppa10:23
MCR1ouch10:23
om26erMCR1, just so that i am sure, enabling show desktop asks me to disable unity plugin10:31
om26eris that fine?10:32
MCR1no, just fadedesktop should tell you that - I think didrocks removed my patch from Quantal - so you need the staging PPA10:32
didrocksyep :)10:33
MCR1it is just another manifestation of the same Grid bug we tested before...10:34
MCR1namely keyboard-shortcut resized Grid windows acting crazy... :(10:35
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MCR1didrocks: So if I understand you correctly, I can add those to the Compiz/Unity blueprint I am able to fix in this cycle ?11:51
didrocksMCR1: right, with your launchpad name in front, like [yourname]11:51
didrocksMCR1: or assigned to the bug if you link a bug11:51
MCR1ok11:51
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mmrazikdidrocks: interesting... build #36 is clean-ish even on intel:12:22
mmrazikhttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ps-unity-autopilot-raring/36/12:22
didrocksmmrazik: weird, we good an issue with appmenu-gtk, but I don't think it's what impacted you12:25
didrocksmmrazik: so, thumper landed a big branch in trunk12:25
didrocksmmrazik: is it with that one?12:26
didrockshe basically removed a lot of bamf relationship12:26
mmrazikdidrocks: do you know which revision is the thumper's merge?12:26
mmrazikwel... I can find out myself..12:26
mmrazikdidrocks: build #36 is with 6.12.0bzr2936pkg0raring0  which is prior thumper's changes12:27
didrocksok, so it's not that one12:28
didrocksmmrazik: seeing how big this merge is, I would prefer that we rerun with it btw12:28
didrocksbtw i386?12:29
mmrazikdidrocks: running already12:29
mmrazikdidrocks: yes12:29
didrocksmmrazik: great!12:30
didrockslet's see how it goes :)12:30
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mmrazikdidrocks, fginther: Run including Tim's changes: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ps-unity-autopilot-raring/37/14:10
mmrazikI wonder where the nvidia failures disappear14:10
mmraziked14:10
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didrocksmmrazik: proprieratery driver, right?14:12
didrocksisn't what the failure was about without them?14:12
didrockssil2100: how is it going on the armhf front? Seems it's the latest blocker14:13
mmrazikdidrocks: yes... but #34 also had  a binary driver and for some reason there were about ~50 failures14:13
mmrazikits really hard to figure out stuff if there are so many variables :-/14:13
mmrazikthe joy of system level testing14:13
* mmrazik would never say he will be worried when a fail rate drops14:13
didrocksmmrazik: right, I guess at least, we don't jump from 20 to 10014:14
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didrocksmmrazik: so, once the armhf thing is fixed, I guess we can try to do the whole stack for trying, without uploading14:15
didrocksmmrazik: with all the jobs chained14:15
didrockswdyt?14:15
mmrazikdidrocks: +114:15
didrockssweetness ;) let's wait for sil2100's status14:15
mmrazikdidrocks: we will need to change the staging ppa to something else, right?14:16
didrocksmmrazik: right ~ubuntu-unity/daily-build14:16
didrocksmmrazik: and you can consider I only launch the job when i386 is published14:16
didrockslet's see if jibel is available14:16
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sil2100didrocks: almost done, testing the modifications on my pandaboard, and this sadly takes some time to compile on this platform ;/14:33
didrockssil2100: good to know that you have good progress! :)14:34
mmraziksil2100: out of curiosity... how much time do you need to compile unity on panda?14:40
mmrazikdo you have numbers for compiz too?14:40
sil2100mmrazik: don't have the numbers, but I can count the build time right now14:43
sil2100mmrazik: for unity14:43
mmraziksil2100: thx14:43
sil2100mmrazik: but it takes rather a lot14:43
mmraziksil2100: like 1h or more like 6h?14:44
sil2100mmrazik: I think more like around 2 hours14:56
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didrockssil2100: how is it going? good news?16:35
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didrocksbregma: hey, if you have access to the oif daily recipe, maybe it's time to kill them? (and remove the spam ;))18:31
bregma sure thing18:31
didrocksthanks!18:32
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bobweaverreading log ^^ when will this change in stagging happen ?20:45
bobweavermmrazik,  it took me like 15 minutes on panda board20:46
bobweaverfriends board ^^20:46
bobweavermaybe 2020:47
bobweavercompiz was like 35 too 50  min  all together I was at house for about 6 hours20:49
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sil2100bobweaver: 20 minutes building on a pandaboard?21:46
sil2100Maybe my USB disk is the problem21:46
sil2100But here it takes around 1 hour21:47
bobweaversil2100,  just for unity ?21:48
sil2100Yes o_O21:49
sil2100It's REALLY slow here21:49
bobweaverhuh yeah maybe 30 min it was not sure but it wwas def not hour21:51
sil2100What storage did you use?21:52
bobweaverjust a SDHC card I think was 20 or 30 gigs21:53
bobweaverIs yourrs EC ?21:53
bobweaverES*21:53
sil2100bobweaver: no, it's the pre-ES version21:56
bobweaveralso you have put make shift heatsink and leogos case with fan ?21:56
bobweaverI used coper and heatsink from loacal place (had to cut it up )21:57
sil2100hm, negative as well21:57
sil2100Is that a known issue?21:57
bobweaverI wasent going to chance it21:57
* bobweaver is crazy and thinks all cpus should have heat sink 21:57
bobweavergpu anything that gets hot21:57
bobweaverlegos case was fun to build21:58
bobweaver9volt batt for fan21:58
bobweaverI need to get one for the Ubuntu TV project but $$ is low at this time. But my friend is happy with his. But it is still  not super fast due to only gig of ram21:59
bobweaversil2100,  I will try to grab some pics of it and send to you22:00
sil2100bobweaver: thanks!22:00
bobweavernext time I am over at house (lives hour from me )22:00
bobweaversil2100,  I would like to set up a fund for Ubuntu TV to get us some more panda boards to hack on like 2 or three one for me one for thomas and one for whoever else happens to be in line of fire. But I am unsure as to how to go about that22:02
bregmabobweaver, an ARM shouldn't need a heatsink22:31
bregmaI used run a snapdragon doing compiles and rending 1080p video and it was putting out about 0.25 watts22:32
bregmanot hot enough to feel warm22:32
bobweaverOo22:33
bobweaverLike I said I was not going to chance it22:33
bobweaverthat is it Just trying to think of different things that I may have done that sil2100 is not doing TBH22:33

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