| * xTEMPLARx peeks into the room | 14:38 | |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: about time you bum | 14:40 |
|---|---|---|
| wrst | :P | 14:40 |
| xTEMPLARx | :D | 14:40 |
| xTEMPLARx | sorry it's been hectic at work lately | 14:40 |
| xTEMPLARx | not much time for goofin' | 14:40 |
| wrst | well xTEMPLARx that is just unacceptable | 14:42 |
| xTEMPLARx | agreed, friend | 14:43 |
| xTEMPLARx | how's the young'un doin? | 14:43 |
| wrst | running around like a chicken with her head cut off... so doing great! yours? | 14:44 |
| xTEMPLARx | getting along smashingly | 14:44 |
| xTEMPLARx | i couldn't ask for a better son, imo | 14:45 |
| xTEMPLARx | entering a join.me session with a customer... bbiaf | 14:46 |
| wrst | see you later xTEMPLARx | 14:48 |
| xTEMPLARx | join.me is crazy sluggish | 14:52 |
| xTEMPLARx | argh | 14:52 |
| wrst | well i'm crazy and sluggish too i should like that | 14:53 |
| wrst | ohh thats not what you meant | 14:54 |
| xTEMPLARx | ;) | 14:57 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: my wife is gone this weekend starting friday night just me and the 20 month old red head | 15:03 |
| wrst | if there is a house left it will be a mess | 15:03 |
| xTEMPLARx | you're doomed | 15:03 |
| wrst | nah we do pretty well together actually | 15:05 |
| wrst | we are both stubborn and hard headed | 15:05 |
| xTEMPLARx | heya wrst | 15:37 |
| xTEMPLARx | do you know any kb shortcuts to gnome shell? | 15:37 |
| xTEMPLARx | i.e., is there one to easily switch workspaces? | 15:37 |
| wrst | ctl-alt-arrow key up or down | 15:38 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: i am now on kde got tired of every major gnome-shell update breaking all the extensions then having to wait weeks/months with a crippled desktop | 15:38 |
| xTEMPLARx | really? | 15:39 |
| xTEMPLARx | haha | 15:39 |
| xTEMPLARx | guess I've been lucky | 15:39 |
| xTEMPLARx | how many extensions were you using? | 15:39 |
| xTEMPLARx | I MIGHT have one | 15:39 |
| xTEMPLARx | maybe two | 15:39 |
| xTEMPLARx | but I think just one | 15:39 |
| wrst | had 3 or four, I like having icons in the panel as they should be that was the major one, and minor yes i know | 15:39 |
| wrst | but the seem to be going somewhat backwards and just a pain as much as i loved gnome, i didn't leave them they left me | 15:40 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: here is my current setup: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2959906/snapshot1.png | 15:42 |
| xTEMPLARx | dual monitors? | 15:43 |
| wrst | thats on my desktop have the same theme on my laptop | 15:43 |
| xTEMPLARx | mine seems so much more antiquated by comparison | 15:45 |
| xTEMPLARx | I like my desktop icons | 15:45 |
| xTEMPLARx | or rather, desktop full-o-icons | 15:45 |
| wrst | i use the desktop just for a workspace, for things i'm currently working with then off they go to what i consider a proper storage area | 15:46 |
| wrst | needless to say by that screenshot i was piddling :) | 15:46 |
| xTEMPLARx | yup | 15:46 |
| xTEMPLARx | i still haven't given up my desktop clutter yet | 15:46 |
| xTEMPLARx | but I think its kinda funny | 15:46 |
| xTEMPLARx | for as different as gnome shell is | 15:46 |
| wrst | but i'm enjoying kde 4.9, but whenever they change to kde 5.0 whenever that is and break everythign i will go back to gnome | 15:46 |
| xTEMPLARx | mine has turned out not that different from what gnome 2 was giving me | 15:47 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: my thing is i shouldn't have to work to make my desktop usable | 15:47 |
| wrst | i shouldn't have to install a "tweak-tool" | 15:47 |
| wrst | etc etc version 3.0 i get it, 3.2 sure, 3.4 starting to bother me, 3.6 really? | 15:47 |
| chris4585 | wrst, I agree | 15:47 |
| wrst | i think the gnome devs really don't care what the users want, and that's their perogative so thats fine but I don't have to use it either | 15:48 |
| chris4585 | I'm happy in openbox land though where the parts are interchangeable | 15:48 |
| xTEMPLARx | tweak tool is default, I believe, in the gnome shell 3.6 install with 12.10 gnomebuntu | 15:48 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: but its not a default gnome tool | 15:48 |
| xTEMPLARx | and it should be, for sure | 15:48 |
| wrst | and its hackish looking and hackish at best | 15:48 |
| xTEMPLARx | its like not including a preferences menu | 15:48 |
| wrst | kde you have that lovely system settings that is very os x like but works very nicely | 15:48 |
| xTEMPLARx | yeah, but does it play nice with the rest of the network? | 15:49 |
| xTEMPLARx | i never had it work well with the network | 15:49 |
| wrst | kde? | 15:49 |
| xTEMPLARx | it was just the file manager | 15:49 |
| xTEMPLARx | yes | 15:49 |
| wrst | dolphin actually works now, very well | 15:49 |
| xTEMPLARx | browsing network shares in KDE (the last time I tried it) was clunky and difficult | 15:49 |
| xTEMPLARx | samba shares that is | 15:49 |
| chris4585 | isn't it clunky and difficult in gnome? | 15:50 |
| wrst | actually around kde 4.5 i wanted to change but dolphin was horrible but now you just go to the network shares and it works | 15:50 |
| chris4585 | I've literally never had it work properly | 15:50 |
| xTEMPLARx | it rendered my workflow here next to impossible | 15:50 |
| wrst | chris4585: i always had good luck with samba in gnome, and now it works well in kde | 15:50 |
| xTEMPLARx | chris4585: actually no... i have NO problems with samba interactivity | 15:50 |
| chris4585 | ah, well I guess I always had bad luck with it | 15:51 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx, chris4585 many times is that the actual desktop or is it how the backend is set up? | 15:51 |
| chris4585 | I prefer to have ssh and sftp | 15:51 |
| wrst | chris4585: that's my preference but at my house with windows and mac, samba is just the easy route and it works very nicely | 15:51 |
| wrst | but when i transfer large files, i use ssh seems to work better/quicker for me | 15:52 |
| chris4585 | backend I guess? and wrst yeah whatever is easiest | 15:52 |
| xTEMPLARx | no complaints with samba's speed on our network | 15:52 |
| xTEMPLARx | and this being a 90% windows-based company, samba it is | 15:52 |
| chris4585 | I rarely transfer files and when I do I just use filezilla or scp or sshfs or something like that | 15:52 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: probably something in my setup truth be told and I'm not exactly operating on great hardware either atom processor 1GB of RAM is my file server and not a super fast hard drive either, and 10/100 network card | 15:53 |
| xTEMPLARx | Ah so | 15:53 |
| xTEMPLARx | this is a quad-core amd box with a good nvidia card in it | 15:54 |
| xTEMPLARx | still just a 100baseT network tho | 15:54 |
| wrst | that makes a difference i would think :) | 15:54 |
| wrst | but still not a 3 dollar newegg card ;) | 15:54 |
| xTEMPLARx | our network is being difficult | 15:55 |
| wrst | but i don't have enterprise class routing equipment so i have lots o' bottlenecks and now that we have 10-15 devices on our network i'm starting to notice it even at home | 15:55 |
| chris4585 | xTEMPLARx, what cpu? I have a Phenom II 960T Zosma 3ghz overclocked to 3.2ghz | 15:55 |
| xTEMPLARx | we definitely don't have enterprise-class anything here | 15:55 |
| chris4585 | enterprise stuff is expensive.... | 15:55 |
| xTEMPLARx | we have a pfsense router that I built, and an old dell box for a linux-based filestorage machine | 15:55 |
| wrst | we have 3 phones, 2 tablets, 2 laptops, 1 wii, 2 directv receivers, 1 desktop, 1 server, on our network when we are all at home | 15:56 |
| xTEMPLARx | chris4585: I've got an AMD Phenom II X4 840 at 3.2GHz | 15:56 |
| wrst | that seems to slow our wifi down | 15:56 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: you use pfsense at home? | 15:56 |
| xTEMPLARx | i couldn't trick them into springing for the black edition though :( | 15:56 |
| chris4585 | xTEMPLARx, nice :) I like phenoms especially with how cheap they are today | 15:56 |
| xTEMPLARx | wrst: nope just the netgear vpn router | 15:56 |
| wrst | ahh ok | 15:57 |
| xTEMPLARx | chris4585: amen to t hat... this machine and my machine at home both run them and they're splendid | 15:57 |
| chris4585 | I got the black edition and its kind of nice to know I can tinker with it | 15:57 |
| xTEMPLARx | http://i.imgur.com/aD9FA.jpg | 15:57 |
| wrst | i have thought about upgrading our router because with all our devices wifi gets a little wiggly sometime especially now that my daughter has my old phone and watches youtube videos when its time to settle down at night | 15:57 |
| xTEMPLARx | that's my work desktop atm, wrst | 15:57 |
| chris4585 | eventually I'd like to get an 8350... when I get another job | 15:57 |
| chris4585 | xTEMPLARx, I like the theme | 15:58 |
| xTEMPLARx | I think its more or less default | 15:58 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: clean your room young man | 15:58 |
| xTEMPLARx | but i'm using AWN on the side there | 15:58 |
| xTEMPLARx | can't get AWN to install via debs on 12.10 at home though | 15:58 |
| xTEMPLARx | so I installed docky | 15:58 |
| xTEMPLARx | I don't like docky | 15:58 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: there is a dock extension that wasn't too bad | 15:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | I'm considering compiling awn | 15:59 |
| wrst | if it isn't broken :) | 15:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | one thing that I can't get to work on here is conky | 15:59 |
| chris4585 | xTEMPLARx, try cairo-dock | 15:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | it does strange things | 15:59 |
| chris4585 | I thought awn was the golden child until I tried cairo... | 15:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | I used cairo-dock back in the day, and awn beat it out | 15:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | but then again, AWN isn't being maintained now | 15:59 |
| chris4585 | http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdeebtOzIS1r1lde1o1_1280.jpg | 15:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | so cairo may be king | 15:59 |
| chris4585 | cairo is basically compiz of the docks... | 16:00 |
| xTEMPLARx | what sort of mouse-over animations does it provide? | 16:00 |
| xTEMPLARx | nice looking desktop | 16:00 |
| wrst | cairo-dock is cool! | 16:00 |
| chris4585 | fire, 3d cube, stairs, uh a few others I don't remember | 16:00 |
| chris4585 | zoom | 16:00 |
| wrst | i used it back in my expirmentation days | 16:01 |
| wrst | that's with desktops not drugs | 16:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | I use a little bounce/squish animation on mine that works really nicely and smoothly | 16:01 |
| chris4585 | xTEMPLARx, thanks, when I take a screenshot I try to make an art form lol | 16:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | chris4585: lol | 16:01 |
| chris4585 | wrst, you funny | 16:01 |
| wrst | chris4585: at least you clean up before you take a screen shot | 16:01 |
| * wrst eyes xTEMPLARx | 16:01 | |
| xTEMPLARx | so what are you using there? that's not gnome shell is it? | 16:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | wrst: my desktop is covered with UTILITY. there's nothing to clean up | 16:02 |
| chris4585 | nope, just my openbox with cairo-dock, nautilus and conky | 16:02 |
| xTEMPLARx | ah openbox | 16:02 |
| xTEMPLARx | openbox is pretty useful | 16:02 |
| chris4585 | honestly its too simple and it just works | 16:02 |
| xTEMPLARx | fast and basic without being so basic that it hurts | 16:02 |
| chris4585 | yeah | 16:03 |
| xTEMPLARx | I cannot argue against it | 16:03 |
| xTEMPLARx | :) | 16:03 |
| wrst | that looks really nice chris4585 | 16:03 |
| chris4585 | wrst, thanks :) | 16:03 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: i can always argue... now I'm not always effective | 16:03 |
| chris4585 | lol | 16:03 |
| wrst | chris4585: very osx 'ish looking also no offense intended :) | 16:04 |
| wrst | i mean that in a good way | 16:04 |
| chris4585 | none taken, I even tried to do that sort of, http://chris4585.tumblr.com/post/33882118393/normally-i-have-icons-and-stuff-but-i-killed | 16:04 |
| chris4585 | os x does look nice... | 16:05 |
| chris4585 | I think that ^ was with awn though | 16:05 |
| wrst | yeah chris4585 i just find using it is a little bit limiting, no right click irritates me | 16:05 |
| xTEMPLARx | You've inspired me... i'm shrinking the size of my awn bar so it's not so geriatric | 16:05 |
| wrst | unless you use a non apple mouse | 16:05 |
| chris4585 | lol | 16:06 |
| chris4585 | wrst, I think you can right click if you hold down a button on the keyboard or something | 16:06 |
| wrst | chris4585: you can but thats lame | 16:06 |
| xTEMPLARx | my awn bar was kinda like this: http://bit.ly/QsFLZ3 | 16:06 |
| chris4585 | when I found out... I was like, but why not just use a mouse with two buttons? | 16:06 |
| wrst | especially on a 1500 buck laptop | 16:06 |
| chris4585 | xTEMPLARx, that looks like a phone | 16:07 |
| xTEMPLARx | my little pony, eh? | 16:07 |
| chris4585 | lol? | 16:07 |
| wrst | my wife however loves her macbook, her iphone her ipad her ipod etc etc | 16:07 |
| xTEMPLARx | i'm confused | 16:07 |
| xTEMPLARx | that is a phone | 16:07 |
| xTEMPLARx | but look how huge the buttons are | 16:07 |
| chris4585 | xTEMPLARx, yes | 16:07 |
| xTEMPLARx | its for old people who can't see too good | 16:07 |
| wrst | your awn bar looks like a phone? | 16:07 |
| chris4585 | xTEMPLARx, oh lol gotcha | 16:07 |
| xTEMPLARx | <------ old people who can't see too good | 16:07 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: you are over 40 i suppose that qualifies you ;) | 16:08 |
| xTEMPLARx | next I'm gonna get me one of those metal horns to hear with | 16:08 |
| wrst | ha ha | 16:08 |
| xTEMPLARx | but I'll have to get two so I can still get good stereo separation | 16:08 |
| chris4585 | xTEMPLARx, I honestly thought my bar was huge, I think I normally make it about 40 - 56px | 16:08 |
| chris4585 | or something like that | 16:08 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: too much loud music? | 16:08 |
| xTEMPLARx | wrst: pretty much | 16:08 |
| wrst | at least it was worth it | 16:09 |
| xTEMPLARx | now see you guys aren't doing much for my productivity | 16:09 |
| xTEMPLARx | now I'm all scheming on how I can change my layout | 16:09 |
| wrst | i'm not helping mine either | 16:09 |
| chris4585 | I should be asleep | 16:09 |
| chris4585 | lol | 16:10 |
| xTEMPLARx | wrst: it kinda was. my hearing loss is mainly in my right ear, so I can still hear my boy loud and clear in the left ear | 16:10 |
| wrst | ha ha | 16:10 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: i have been spending all my wasted time messing with my phone just got into cyanogenmod | 16:11 |
| xTEMPLARx | oh nooooes | 16:11 |
| xTEMPLARx | having fun with it? | 16:11 |
| wrst | yes I love it, hav ea samsung galaxy s3 and its a much better phoen without the samsung touchwhiz stuff | 16:12 |
| wrst | but i'm still an awful speller ! | 16:13 |
| chris4585 | wrst, I wish I had one... | 16:13 |
| xTEMPLARx | wrst: does your cell provider not care if you monkey around? | 16:13 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: oh i'm sure they do since i voided the warranty and unlocked the bootloader | 16:13 |
| xTEMPLARx | know what would be good fun? if someone would port android to the iphone | 16:13 |
| wrst | its verizon, aka the great satan of the phone industry | 16:13 |
| xTEMPLARx | to replace iOS, that is | 16:14 |
| xTEMPLARx | I consider AT&T to fill that role, wrst | 16:14 |
| xTEMPLARx | verizon has great coverage | 16:14 |
| wrst | ha ha | 16:14 |
| chris4585 | so do I | 16:14 |
| xTEMPLARx | and decent service | 16:14 |
| chris4585 | AT&T is evil | 16:14 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: they do but they are lacking in customer service | 16:14 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: my wife got an iphone5 | 16:14 |
| xTEMPLARx | they must have gone downhill since I was with'em | 16:14 |
| chris4585 | okay guys, bed time | 16:14 |
| xTEMPLARx | how's she likin' it? | 16:14 |
| xTEMPLARx | sleep well, sir | 16:14 |
| wrst | she likes it but she really likes iStuff | 16:15 |
| wrst | a little too limiting for my taste | 16:15 |
| xTEMPLARx | well, as it pertains to my ipad and phone, limiting is a welcome environment | 16:15 |
| xTEMPLARx | less worry about villains from without trying to get into'em | 16:16 |
| wrst | well i'm sure that i don't have anything "calling home" now | 16:18 |
| wrst | and with CM you can do all sorts of things to lock your phone if you want | 16:19 |
| xTEMPLARx | oh I'm sure | 16:23 |
| xTEMPLARx | I guess that's just a device I want to just work and be what it is, rather than tinker with | 16:23 |
| xTEMPLARx | maybe I'm getting old | 16:23 |
| xTEMPLARx | :D | 16:23 |
| xTEMPLARx | honestly, though, its been a refreshing experience as a tool | 16:23 |
| xTEMPLARx | the ipad anyway | 16:24 |
| xTEMPLARx | that doesn't mean I'd want my desktop to be anything remotely like that | 16:24 |
| xTEMPLARx | it still needs to be my little sandbox | 16:24 |
| xTEMPLARx | brb | 16:27 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: no i certainly get that and I think the devices are very good, just one of those, not for me things | 16:31 |
| xTEMPLARx | installing openbox for tinkering | 16:33 |
| wrst | that's more serious tinkering than cyanogenmod on my phone xTEMPLARx :) | 16:34 |
| xTEMPLARx | not really | 16:34 |
| xTEMPLARx | openbox is pretty good, and still functional | 16:34 |
| xTEMPLARx | plus, all my core software I need to access should still work there | 16:34 |
| wrst | could spend a lot more time with it | 16:34 |
| xTEMPLARx | so if an emergency arises here, I won't be dead in the water | 16:34 |
| xTEMPLARx | is there a CLI client for quassel? | 16:35 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: ohh i only pull in well proven stuff on my phone i trust them more than i trust OTA updates from verizon | 16:35 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: not that I know of, i have seen it discussed but have a nice client on my phone | 16:35 |
| xTEMPLARx | well the one thing you can trust verizon to do is lock features out and keep you from fully utilizing your phone | 16:35 |
| xTEMPLARx | even on my limited old LG ENV2 I had, they locked stuff out... really, verizon? the phone only does like 4 things | 16:36 |
| xTEMPLARx | wonder how big a footprint (diskspace-wise) kde takes up these days | 16:36 |
| xTEMPLARx | of course, if I have to ask, I probably can't afford it, right? | 16:37 |
| xTEMPLARx | :P | 16:37 |
| xTEMPLARx | brb again | 16:37 |
| xTEMPLARx | in openbox now | 16:39 |
| xTEMPLARx | methinks they are making it too difficult to change the background | 16:41 |
| xTEMPLARx | lol | 16:41 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: footprint of kde and gnome i don't think are much different | 16:43 |
| wrst | RagnarokAngel: long time no see! | 16:43 |
| RagnarokAngel | lol thanks wrst | 16:43 |
| RagnarokAngel | I'm actually in here because of a class about linguisttics :-p | 16:43 |
| RagnarokAngel | *linguistics | 16:43 |
| RagnarokAngel | hurray analyzing the way that we talk on the internet | 16:43 |
| wrst | RagnarokAngel: are you bored? :) | 16:44 |
| RagnarokAngel | wrst: lol no, I'm opening up the logs adn we're talking about the differences in Internet communications | 16:44 |
| RagnarokAngel | the conventions of informal email vs chat vs formal email | 16:44 |
| wrst | ahh well we are an interesting bunch here | 16:44 |
| wrst | i always view formal emial like a letter | 16:44 |
| xTEMPLARx | \/\/|-|47'5 \/\/|20|\|G w17h |-| w3 741K? | 16:44 |
| xTEMPLARx | |-|0w | 16:45 |
| xTEMPLARx | * | 16:45 |
| xTEMPLARx | hah | 16:45 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: ? | 16:46 |
| xTEMPLARx | still can't figure out how to put up an image as my desktop background | 16:46 |
| wrst | take it there isn't a right click change background option :) | 16:46 |
| xTEMPLARx | not at all | 16:46 |
| RagnarokAngel | wrst: yeah, we're talking about a linguists assumptions about email in 2006 vs reality of 2012 | 16:48 |
| wrst | RagnarokAngel: i'm thinking that it is much less formal now? | 16:48 |
| xTEMPLARx | argh! | 16:49 |
| xTEMPLARx | lol | 16:49 |
| RagnarokAngel | wrst: actually, moreso. | 16:50 |
| RagnarokAngel | all our informal convo is moving to other platforms | 16:50 |
| RagnarokAngel | like here | 16:50 |
| RagnarokAngel | or facebook/twitter/insert your favorite trendy social media | 16:50 |
| RagnarokAngel | difficulty in classifying chat vs email as well | 16:50 |
| wrst | ahh that makes sense RagnarokAngel, perfect sense, email is the new sending a letter | 16:51 |
| wrst | ? | 16:51 |
| RagnarokAngel | it's the new professional communication :-p | 16:54 |
| RagnarokAngel | sending a letter is usu going to be on facebook now tbh | 16:54 |
| RagnarokAngel | at least for most people collegiate aged or younger | 16:55 |
| xTEMPLARx | which is scary, imo, as it gives an awful lot of power to FB | 17:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | no patience to figure out openbox atm | 17:05 |
| xTEMPLARx | back in gnome | 17:05 |
| xTEMPLARx | I did do some much-needed scaling, though, so it feels as though I have more room now | 17:06 |
| wrst | looks like one of those things you spend a weekend on xTEMPLARx | 17:08 |
| xTEMPLARx | probably so | 17:08 |
| xTEMPLARx | it'd be nice, then, if, once you're done with your setup, you can save a block of files/settings so that you could quickly duplicate that setup on another machine | 17:08 |
| wrst | then i wouldn't backup my home directory and lose all the settings when i do something foolish | 17:08 |
| xTEMPLARx | i'm sure you can | 17:08 |
| wrst | surely there is a .openbox folder or soemthing? | 17:09 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: what should i go get for lunch? | 17:09 |
| xTEMPLARx | what's close to you? | 17:09 |
| wrst | not much | 17:10 |
| wrst | dairy queen, burger king you know those two should get married, anyway hardees and subway nothing that is local that is good really | 17:11 |
| xTEMPLARx | better enjoy dairy queen while you still can | 17:13 |
| xTEMPLARx | you'll miss it once it's gone | 17:13 |
| xTEMPLARx | all of the dairy queens from our area are gone | 17:14 |
| xTEMPLARx | none in loudon, blount or knox counties, and even gone outa roane county I believe | 17:14 |
| xTEMPLARx | no blizzards | 17:14 |
| xTEMPLARx | no GOOD dip cones | 17:15 |
| * xTEMPLARx cries | 17:15 | |
| wrst | really xTEMPLARx, seems to be going strong here | 17:15 |
| xTEMPLARx | glad to hear they didn't just disappear | 17:16 |
| wrst | no had a blizzard last week | 17:17 |
| xTEMPLARx | take it back, I just discovered two locations in knoxville, both of which are too far from me | 17:17 |
| wrst | subway salad for me today, but the cookies probably ruined the salad effect xTEMPLARx | 18:07 |
| xTEMPLARx | don't think of it that way | 18:08 |
| xTEMPLARx | think of it as the salad paved the way for the possibility of the cookies | 18:09 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: that sounds like my type of thinking | 18:11 |
| wrst | my fatty fat fat thinking :) | 18:11 |
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