| Kilos | hi psydroid nuvolari and others | 05:01 |
|---|---|---|
| Squirm | lo | 05:08 |
| Kilos | hey Squirm | 05:11 |
| nlsthzn | morning all | 05:28 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 05:30 |
| nlsthzn | peeps in SA up early | 05:31 |
| Kilos | just Squirm and i | 05:34 |
| Kilos | others on their way to work or still in lurking mode | 05:35 |
| magespawn | good morning all | 05:53 |
| Kilos | hi there magespawn | 05:54 |
| superfly | good night | 05:56 |
| Kilos | you going to bed superfly ? | 05:57 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos | 05:57 |
| superfly | I wish I was | 05:57 |
| magespawn | superfly? | 05:57 |
| Kilos | aw | 05:57 |
| magespawn | need to sleep or you start missing things | 05:57 |
| magespawn | Kilos what type of solder should i use for electrical circuits resin or acid? | 05:58 |
| Kilos | resin where ever possible | 05:59 |
| Kilos | all copper use resin | 05:59 |
| magespawn | now there is a non ubuntu question lol | 05:59 |
| magespawn | ahh okay | 05:59 |
| superfly | actually, I was in bed a little earlier last night... just past midnight. | 05:59 |
| Kilos | but use an ubuntu soldering iro | 05:59 |
| Kilos | iron | 05:59 |
| magespawn | and what time do you get up superfly? | 05:59 |
| Kilos | eish superfly | 06:00 |
| superfly | 6 | 06:00 |
| Kilos | one needs 7 hours a night to stay healthy | 06:00 |
| magespawn | if you fall asleep immediatly that is 6 hours, plenty, assuming it is not interrupted | 06:00 |
| magespawn | but then again maybe that is why i miss quite a bit | 06:01 |
| Kilos | hehe | 06:01 |
| magespawn | and look about 10 years older than i am lol | 06:02 |
| magespawn | see y'all later | 06:02 |
| Kilos | go well magespawn | 06:02 |
| Kilos | hi jrgns | 06:29 |
| jrgns | morning Kilos | 06:29 |
| jrgns | i'm on a vpn again today, so just a quick checkin | 06:29 |
| Kilos | ok | 06:30 |
| inetpro | good morning | 06:43 |
| Kilos | morning inetpro | 06:43 |
| inetpro | magespawn: thanks for the mail... but I'll only look at it laters | 06:44 |
| magespawn | inetpro np | 07:20 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 07:22 |
| magespawn | ty Kilos | 07:22 |
| magespawn | quiet since i left | 07:22 |
| Kilos | yeah | 07:23 |
| Kilos | only you and i got things to say looks like | 07:23 |
| Kilos | everyone else is too busy | 07:23 |
| magespawn | its like they have to work or something | 07:24 |
| Kilos | yeah | 07:25 |
| mazal | Morning everyone | 07:34 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 07:34 |
| mazal | Gaanit oom ? | 07:35 |
| Kilos | goed dankie en jy | 07:35 |
| mazal | Ok dankie | 07:35 |
| mazal | Het oom reggekom met daai drive ? | 07:37 |
| Kilos | ja hy werk honnerd | 07:37 |
| mazal | Mooi ! Wat het toe gewerk ? | 07:38 |
| Kilos | het daai mbr gekopie van my unity en moes bietjie sukkel om weer patisies te maak maar nou werk dit mooi | 07:38 |
| Kilos | die mbr het n virus of iets in gehad | 07:39 |
| mazal | Ek moet daai command bêre , het oom hom nog naby | 07:39 |
| Kilos | wag ek soek | 07:39 |
| mazal | sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 ? | 07:40 |
| Kilos | sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | 07:40 |
| mazal | Dink dit was dit | 07:40 |
| Kilos | dis hy | 07:40 |
| mazal | Ditto hehehe | 07:40 |
| Kilos | testdisk just found the head count was wrong on a 40g drive and fixed it | 07:41 |
| mazal | Testdisk ? Is that part of ubcd ? | 07:41 |
| Kilos | no data recovery program in ubuntu | 07:41 |
| Kilos | testdisk photorec scalpel and one more i forget | 07:42 |
| Kilos | i think maybe ubcd has it on too | 07:42 |
| mazal | I see I have testdisk | 07:43 |
| mazal | Never used it though | 07:43 |
| Kilos | works well but takes long | 07:44 |
| Kilos | magespawn, whats the other one | 07:48 |
| Kilos | finds data after drive has been formatted three times even | 07:48 |
| Kilos | only files lose their original name and get numbers | 07:49 |
| mazal | I hope I never need it | 07:49 |
| mazal | With tripple backups I shouldn't :P | 07:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:50 |
| mazal | Kilos can you do something with an external with broken power supply ? | 07:51 |
| Kilos | get another power suppy | 07:51 |
| Kilos | or have that one fixed | 07:51 |
| Kilos | doesnt it take power from the usb | 07:52 |
| mazal | Tried , very hard. And the one they eventually send doesn't work | 07:52 |
| mazal | Thinking of "converting" it to internal | 07:52 |
| mazal | ie , breaking the case open hehehe | 07:53 |
| Kilos | maybe the case isnt good | 07:53 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 07:54 |
| Kilos | what external is it? | 07:54 |
| Kilos | you might be able to get a replacement control board | 07:56 |
| mazal | It's a samsung and def power supply | 07:57 |
| mazal | Haven't looked at it myself yet , but the user described the probem | 07:57 |
| mazal | problem even | 07:57 |
| mazal | The dog ate up the power cable of the supply | 07:57 |
| mazal | She then searched all over and couldn't find a replacement | 07:58 |
| mazal | Eventually called samsung head office , and they send one that doesn't work | 07:58 |
| Kilos | maybe one can make up such a cable if you have the plugs at ends in good nick still | 07:58 |
| Kilos | ai | 07:58 |
| mazal | I'm gonna look at it when I am mobile again | 07:59 |
| mazal | See what can be done | 07:59 |
| mazal | But I am sooooooooo thinking of chuking the case | 07:59 |
| Kilos | no man | 07:59 |
| Kilos | size of drive in it? | 08:00 |
| Kilos | and whats a def power supply | 08:00 |
| mazal | 2TB | 08:01 |
| Kilos | oooo lekker | 08:02 |
| Kilos | nurse it | 08:02 |
| nlsthzn | anyone know of a way to update zeitgeist or what ever the indexer for unity is... I have installed two different apps and can't see them now (I know once I reboot they should be there but don't want to reboot now)? | 08:41 |
| nlsthzn | brb | 08:44 |
| nlsthzn | :/ | 08:44 |
| magespawn | Kilos ddrescue or gddrescue I think | 08:59 |
| magespawn | mazal that power supply has to match the one for the drive in terms of volts,amps and watts the jack has to have the same polairty | 09:00 |
| magespawn | any good electronics store should be able to help, take along the old power supply for comparison | 09:02 |
| mazal | magespawn, the user says she already has been everywhere and nobody could supply one | 09:02 |
| Kilos | ah ty magespawn i see its in repos for maverick | 09:02 |
| magespawn | mazal strange | 09:03 |
| Kilos | both of them | 09:04 |
| Kilos | hehe i got more tools to play with | 09:04 |
| mazal | magespawn, that's why she eventually contacted samsung sa head office and even the one they send didn't work | 09:05 |
| * inetpro looking for a command to list number and cumulative size of files in a folder by file extension | 09:05 | |
| Kilos | and foremost was the other one magespawn mazal | 09:06 |
| Kilos | just hit me | 09:06 |
| mazal | That's why I think change it to internal drive | 09:06 |
| magespawn | that might not work, some externals have specific controller cards in the case | 09:06 |
| Kilos | mazal, are the plugs at the ends good still with a bit of the cable left? | 09:06 |
| Kilos | especially the one to the external | 09:07 |
| mazal | I dunno Kilos , I haven't seen it myself yet. Will go and look once I am healthy and mobile again. All of this info is as she gave it to me | 09:07 |
| Kilos | ah | 09:07 |
| Kilos | get it delivered | 09:08 |
| mazal | Maybe they missed something I can see | 09:08 |
| Kilos | dont deliver deliver is de best part | 09:08 |
| Kilos | one side must be usb | 09:09 |
| mazal | What bothers me as that the one samsung themself send her don't work | 09:09 |
| Kilos | so you can cut a usb cable up for the pc end | 09:09 |
| Kilos | maybe controller messed up | 09:10 |
| mazal | And as I could gather , this thing have been in the post as well | 09:10 |
| mazal | That bothers me too | 09:10 |
| mazal | Dunno what hammering it took maybe | 09:11 |
| Kilos | oh my | 09:11 |
| Kilos | no handle with care sticker. as if the postal peeps care | 09:11 |
| mazal | Will know more when I see it and talk to her again | 09:12 |
| inetpro | one nice summary: find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 file | cut -f2 -d: | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | 09:16 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 09:16 |
| Kilos | all them pipes | 09:17 |
| magespawn | inetpro is there a limit to how many pipes you can use | 09:22 |
| magespawn | ? | 09:22 |
| Kilos | looks like the limit is the number of destinations you find | 09:23 |
| inetpro | magespawn: memory | 09:24 |
| inetpro | obviously the above example doesn't give me a summary of the size | 09:25 |
| inetpro | just the number of files by type of file | 09:25 |
| magespawn | obviously | 09:25 |
| inetpro | which is kind of nice | 09:25 |
| magespawn | the only thing obvious to the rest of use from that example is that it does something and has pipes | 09:26 |
| magespawn | lol | 09:26 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 09:26 |
| inetpro | ai | 09:26 |
| Kilos | at times he is too clever for his own good | 09:26 |
| magespawn | but he must keep sharing that is how the rest of us learn | 09:27 |
| Kilos | yeah | 09:27 |
| Kilos | ty goosie | 09:27 |
| Kilos | ill stick to the nuts and bolts | 09:30 |
| Kilos | i see testdisk can also rewrite the mbr | 09:33 |
| inetpro | heh magespawn, that command may not be most efficient | 09:42 |
| inetpro | I'm hoping that the fly or the weed will come with a better solution | 09:43 |
| inetpro | or anyone else for that matter | 09:44 |
| inetpro | then if it's not available yet someone should actually have it scripted or compiled as a standard command on *nix | 09:45 |
| Kilos- | lo Vince-0 | 10:06 |
| Vince-0 | Hi Kilos- | 10:09 |
| Vince-0 | work work | 10:21 |
| inetpro | Vince-0: go work! | 10:21 |
| Vince-0 | meh | 10:22 |
| inetpro | lol | 10:22 |
| Vince-0 | *peon voice: work work | 10:22 |
| Kilos- | lol | 10:22 |
| Vince-0 | *peon voice: we don't have enough gold | 10:22 |
| inetpro | work is more fun than fun | 10:22 |
| Vince-0 | ya research work , but suppor work is kaak | 10:23 |
| Kilos- | you gotta look at work from a different angle | 10:23 |
| inetpro | Kilos-: you have a tail | 10:23 |
| Kilos- | without work no food place to stay and no internet | 10:23 |
| Kilos- | oh my | 10:23 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| Kilos | ty goosie | 10:24 |
| Kilos | hehe thats as bad as flahhh | 10:24 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 10:34 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 10:34 | |
| Kilos | Maaz, large | 10:34 |
| Maaz | In a beer mug just for you Kilos | 10:34 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 10:38 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 10:38 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 10:38 |
| inetpro | btw, the following can also give a nice relevant summary | 10:55 |
| inetpro | find . -type f -exec basename {} \; | grep '\.' | sed 's/^[^.]*\.//g' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | 10:55 |
| inetpro | sadly basename can not handle multiple files at once | 10:55 |
| mazal | Ish , that makes my head hurt :P | 10:57 |
| inetpro | mazal: you have a better solution? | 10:57 |
| mazal | no way , I'm not smart enough hehehe | 10:59 |
| mazal | Amazing the stuff you huys know | 11:01 |
| mazal | guys even | 11:01 |
| inetpro | mazal: google is your friend | 11:02 |
| Kilos | eek | 11:03 |
| confluency | inetpro: that gets confused by filenames with dots. | 11:06 |
| magespawn | mazal check out http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/ | 11:06 |
| charl_ | moshi moshi | 11:06 |
| magespawn | lol | 11:06 |
| charl_ | Maaz: coffee on | 11:06 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 11:06 | |
| charl_ | good afternoon all | 11:06 |
| magespawn | hey charl_ confluency | 11:07 |
| confluency | inetpro: just replace [^.] with . | 11:07 |
| charl_ | hi magespawn | 11:09 |
| magespawn | like so confluency find . -type f -exec basename {} \; | grep '\.' | sed 's/^.*\.//g' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | 11:10 |
| confluency | Yes. | 11:10 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl_! | 11:10 |
| magespawn | it all looks a bit like heiroglyphics to me | 11:10 |
| confluency | This is an odd thing to need -- why a breakdown by file type, not by directory? | 11:11 |
| inetpro | confluency: oh thanks, that helps even if the previous one is also relevant | 11:15 |
| inetpro | confluency: I just wanted a summary of files on one of my web servers | 11:17 |
| magespawn | ooh cook that reminds me brb | 11:20 |
| magespawn | right back | 11:22 |
| mazal | inetpro, indeed , but scripting isn't. I get confused with all the dots and commas and all | 11:25 |
| mazal | I once worked through that cli manual. And enjoyed it. But I keep forgetting | 11:28 |
| mazal | This was my attempt at scripting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1396713/ An elementary menu script. Bit of a mess hey | 11:32 |
| inetpro | sjoe | 11:51 |
| * inetpro would die a silent death if forced to use that menu for administering *nix boxen | 11:52 | |
| inetpro | mazal: no offence | 11:52 |
| inetpro | offense* | 11:52 |
| inetpro | I like the idea | 11:52 |
| inetpro | better to know what you do though and type those commands as needed | 11:53 |
| mazal | Ja that was just a little project to try and learn scripting | 11:55 |
| mazal | Have never actually used that | 11:55 |
| mazal | I wanted to learn and didn't know what to try and build , so I sommer used the menu idea | 11:55 |
| inetpro | nice one to learn | 11:56 |
| inetpro | so many ways to skin a cat | 11:56 |
| mazal | But then got frustrated cos I couldn't get it more streamline and better | 11:56 |
| mazal | At least I tried , took a long time | 11:57 |
| inetpro | TMTOWTDI | 11:57 |
| mazal | hey ? | 11:58 |
| inetpro | mazal: TMTOWTDI | 11:59 |
| inetpro | oops | 11:59 |
| inetpro | Maaz: TMTOWTDI | 11:59 |
| Maaz | There's more than one way to do it (TMTOWTDI or TIMTOWTDI, pronounced “Tim Toady”) is a Perl motto. | 11:59 |
| mazal | aah , nice :) | 12:03 |
| mazal | That's actually one of the things I like about linux | 12:04 |
| magespawn | the key maker " Always another way" | 12:04 |
| mazal | So many options | 12:04 |
| mazal | And strangely enough , it's actually the cli that hooked back when I tried linux the first time | 12:05 |
| magespawn | later all | 14:25 |
| magtie | Hi Kilos | 14:27 |
| Kilos | afternoon magtie | 14:27 |
| inetpro | mazal, confluency: (for t in `find . -type f -exec basename {} \; | grep '\.' | sed 's/^.*\.//g' | sort | uniq`;do total=0; find . -name "*.$t" -exec du -k {} \; | awk -v FType=$t '{total += $1} END {print total " " FType}';done) | sort -nr | 14:49 |
| inetpro | not elegant but it works | 14:49 |
| mazal | jo | 14:50 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| Kilos | hi Trixar_za | 15:20 |
| * mazal can't decide to do archiving tonight or tomorrow | 15:25 | |
| Kilos | old sayiing..never put off till tomorrow what you can do today | 15:31 |
| mazal | hmm | 15:31 |
| inetpro | mazal: do it now and later and again tomorrow | 15:31 |
| Kilos | modern version.. never do today what you can put off till tomorrow | 15:32 |
| inetpro | do it automagically | 15:32 |
| * inetpro loves rsnapshot | 15:32 | |
| Kilos | have you gone home yet pro | 15:33 |
| Kilos | havent | 15:33 |
| mazal | hehehe , inetpro I think I am already paranoid enough with backups :) | 15:34 |
| inetpro | Kilos: why? | 15:34 |
| Kilos | hmm because you live there | 15:35 |
| inetpro | Kilos: but I live here also | 15:37 |
| Kilos | hehe but the food better at home | 15:37 |
| inetpro | you want me to go away? | 15:37 |
| Kilos | not from irc dodo | 15:37 |
| inetpro | :-) | 15:38 |
| inetpro | what's up doc? | 15:38 |
| Kilos | stupid 2 tb wont take ubuntu alongside or nothing | 15:38 |
| Kilos | funny messages when booting from cd | 15:39 |
| mazal | Ok guys , I go do archiving | 15:39 |
| mazal | L8tr | 15:39 |
| Kilos | takes long | 15:39 |
| Trixar_za | Hey Kilos - sorry was working on code | 15:39 |
| Kilos | cheers mazal | 15:39 |
| Kilos | np | 15:39 |
| inetpro | wont take ubuntu alongside or nothing? | 15:39 |
| inetpro | that's a bit cryptic IMHO | 15:39 |
| Kilos | something about sda timeout 10 secs and killal bla bla bla /sda | 15:39 |
| Kilos | battles to boot from cd | 15:40 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:40 |
| Kilos | i dont member everything man | 15:40 |
| inetpro | funny messages is also very cryptic | 15:40 |
| Kilos | i cant copy paste from there | 15:40 |
| inetpro | is like you keeping some secrets from us? | 15:40 |
| Kilos | grr | 15:41 |
| inetpro | :-) | 15:41 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:41 |
| Kilos | twit | 15:41 |
| Kilos | alongside or nothing is no choice to install anywhere | 15:41 |
| inetpro | yikes | 15:41 |
| Kilos | where you went to school | 15:41 |
| inetpro | how long is a piece of string? | 15:42 |
| Kilos | go ask for your money back they taught you nothing | 15:42 |
| inetpro | ai | 15:42 |
| Kilos | dunno if its a 6+1 block thing or what | 15:42 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hope somebody can help | 15:44 |
| * inetpro gotta go | 15:44 | |
| Kilos | but will sort the swine thing sooner or later | 15:44 |
| Kilos | go safe | 15:44 |
| Kilos | dont fall off bicycle | 15:44 |
| inetpro | ya ya | 15:44 |
| Kilos | rofl | 15:44 |
| Kilos | even tried a stupid centos cd but looks like they arent live | 15:46 |
| Kilos | any drive that wont take ubuntu cant leave here | 15:49 |
| Kilos | wb magtie | 16:02 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| Kilos | even unity looks good after days of that other thing | 16:30 |
| Kilos | ##kilos | 16:55 |
| Kilos | mazal, ^^ | 16:55 |
| mazal | ta | 16:55 |
| Kilos | i go eat | 17:00 |
| Kilos | hmm net split got only magespawn | 17:21 |
| Kilos | wb magtie | 17:39 |
| magtie | tks Kilos | 17:39 |
| smile4ever | hii! :) | 18:09 |
| Kilos | hi smile | 18:10 |
| Banlam | hoerskool centurion on Hackaday today: http://hackaday.com/2012/11/29/science-fair-project-sorts-recyclables | 18:13 |
| smile4ever | hi oom kilos and banlam :) | 18:18 |
| smile4ever | high school, Banlam ? :D | 18:18 |
| Kilos | naand Banlam | 18:18 |
| Banlam | smile4ever, yeah. it's a high school up in pretoria | 18:18 |
| Banlam | hi everyone | 18:18 |
| Banlam | smile4ever, the e should have an umlaut | 18:19 |
| Banlam | two little dots | 18:19 |
| smile4ever | Ek het gesien Noord-Kaap en Suid-Kaap het oorwegend Afrikaanstalige bevolking, is daardie bewering korrek? :o | 18:19 |
| Banlam | noord kaap het min bevolking punt | 18:19 |
| Banlam | :P | 18:19 |
| smile4ever | hoërskool! :p | 18:19 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:19 |
| Banlam | yup | 18:19 |
| Banlam | and the suid-kaap isn't a specific area? | 18:19 |
| Kilos | thats like by prieska hey | 18:19 |
| smile4ever | no, banlam? what is it? :P | 18:20 |
| smile4ever | isn't it a province? :p | 18:20 |
| Banlam | nope | 18:20 |
| Banlam | northern cape, western cape, eastern cape, free state, north west, limpopo, mpumalanga, kwa-zulu natal, gauteng | 18:21 |
| Kilos | most of gautend and western cape is mainly afrikaans methinks | 18:22 |
| Kilos | or used to be | 18:22 |
| Banlam | kilos, it's really hard to say | 18:22 |
| Banlam | western cape does have large percentage, the coloureds help | 18:22 |
| Banlam | but there aer so many people who haev moved to the cities | 18:22 |
| Banlam | if you look at areas like khayalitcha | 18:22 |
| Banlam | which are high population areas | 18:22 |
| Kilos | yeah here too | 18:22 |
| Banlam | of non-afrikaans speakears | 18:22 |
| Banlam | brb | 18:23 |
| Kilos | durban is english | 18:23 |
| Kilos | that i know | 18:23 |
| Kilos | poor nuvolari is lost there | 18:25 |
| Squirm | lo | 18:25 |
| Kilos | lo Squirm | 18:26 |
| mazal | Lo Banlam , smile4ever , Squirm | 18:35 |
| Banlam | back | 18:35 |
| Squirm | front | 18:37 |
| Banlam | :) | 18:37 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:37 |
| Kilos | all goos Squirm | 18:38 |
| Kilos | or still tired | 18:38 |
| Kilos | good as well | 18:38 |
| smile4ever | West-Kaap & Noord-Kaap, het ek bedoel ;) | 18:38 |
| Banlam | ah k | 18:38 |
| Squirm | Kilos: after a few beers now. I can hardly keep my eyes open | 18:39 |
| Kilos | you gonna get a boepens | 18:39 |
| Squirm | oh well | 18:39 |
| Squirm | I play enough squash | 18:40 |
| Kilos | ah | 18:40 |
| mazal | Maaz , beer | 18:40 |
| Maaz | mazal: Excuse me? | 18:40 |
| mazal | lol | 18:40 |
| Banlam | squash \o/ | 18:40 |
| Banlam | smile4ever, according to StatsSA: NC: 54%, WC: 50%, adn the next highest is FS: 13% | 18:41 |
| Banlam | http://www.world-data-atlas.com/statssa/ | 18:41 |
| * smile4ever looks | 18:42 | |
| Banlam | click on "Provinces" in the top right | 18:42 |
| Banlam | then scroll down for "Languages - Afrikaans" | 18:43 |
| smile4ever | I found it :D | 18:44 |
| Kilos | are them stats up to date | 18:45 |
| Banlam | supposed to be | 18:45 |
| Banlam | the results are from the Oct 2011 census | 18:45 |
| Banlam | i | 18:46 |
| Kilos | ah | 18:46 |
| Banlam | i'll admit i'm slightly surprised | 18:46 |
| mazal | Me too | 18:46 |
| smile4ever | WC has really a lot of Afrikaans speakers :p | 18:46 |
| smile4ever | :D | 18:46 |
| mazal | Didn't think the cape is that high | 18:46 |
| Kilos | i though the western cape was like 80% afrikaans | 18:46 |
| Banlam | nor did i | 18:46 |
| Kilos | things change hey | 18:46 |
| Banlam | o.O | 18:47 |
| Banlam | Kilos, the results from 1996 aren't much different | 18:47 |
| Kilos | how far back can you go? | 18:47 |
| Banlam | 1996 | 18:47 |
| Banlam | 1996 WC was 59% | 18:47 |
| Kilos | i stayed at the gordons bay hotel once and there were no english peeps around | 18:48 |
| Banlam | lol | 18:48 |
| Kilos | and stellenbosch too | 18:48 |
| Kilos | we went to ride footups there | 18:49 |
| Banlam | stellenbosch is quite heavily afrikaans yes | 18:49 |
| Banlam | footups? | 18:49 |
| mazal | I must visit cape town one day | 18:49 |
| Kilos | footup trials | 18:49 |
| Banlam | i still don't know what that is | 18:49 |
| Kilos | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw0bTII35DA | 18:50 |
| Kilos | http://www.trials.co.za/ | 18:50 |
| Kilos | also called observed trials | 18:51 |
| Banlam | ah ok | 18:51 |
| Kilos | very quiet here tonight | 18:56 |
| Kilos | inetpro, you are right | 18:56 |
| * inetpro wonders why | 18:56 | |
| Kilos | power cut killed maverick | 18:56 |
| Banlam | chat later, i'm off to table tennis | 18:57 |
| inetpro | s/wonders/wanders/ | 18:57 |
| inetpro | Banlam: geniet! | 18:57 |
| Banlam | dankie | 18:57 |
| Kilos | recovery mode goes to 2.868005 <irq> and stays there | 18:57 |
| Kilos | wanders is moving around | 18:57 |
| Kilos | toods Banlam | 18:58 |
| inetpro | yikes | 18:58 |
| inetpro | I always get deurmekaar with that | 18:58 |
| inetpro | not as easy as sed and awk | 18:58 |
| Kilos | wonder en wonder same word spelling and meaning | 18:59 |
| inetpro | Kilos: danke | 18:59 |
| Kilos | Bitteschön | 19:00 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:00 |
| inetpro | btw Kilos, what was I right with? | 19:00 |
| Kilos | stole that from maaz | 19:00 |
| Kilos | power cuts being bad for software | 19:00 |
| inetpro | ai | 19:00 |
| Kilos | and my maverick desktop is full of useful packages and files and commands and a coupla isos | 19:01 |
| inetpro | Kilos: what happened? | 19:03 |
| Kilos | power cut again for 20 secs | 19:04 |
| inetpro | did you not have a ups? | 19:04 |
| Kilos | then i came to this pc with unity and psu | 19:04 |
| Kilos | ups | 19:04 |
| Kilos | told you today ups was on other pc | 19:04 |
| * Kilos cries | 19:04 | |
| Kilos | my lovely lovely irreplacable maveric | 19:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ups = Uninterruptible Power Supply | 19:05 |
| Kilos | ya that | 19:05 |
| Kilos | its here on 12.04 | 19:05 |
| Kilos | maverick on other pc | 19:06 |
| Kilos | but | 19:07 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:07 |
| Kilos | i got maverick on 20g drive i made for sister and its got boot-repair | 19:07 |
| Kilos | so there is hope yet | 19:07 |
| * mazal gaan duik | 19:09 | |
| mazal | Lekker slaap almal | 19:09 |
| mazal | Sleep well everyone | 19:09 |
| inetpro | Kilos: when the power goes down you usually stay on a bit, how do you do that? | 19:12 |
| inetpro | mage[tab] bye | 19:12 |
| Kilos | i was on that pc when poower went off | 19:12 |
| inetpro | on that pc? | 19:12 |
| Kilos | now i got it to the grub prompt | 19:12 |
| Kilos | the one with maverick and no ups | 19:13 |
| inetpro | you have a ups on the one pc but not on the other? | 19:13 |
| Kilos | ya | 19:13 |
| inetpro | ai | 19:13 |
| Kilos | too far apart | 19:13 |
| inetpro | and the one with the ups crashed? | 19:13 |
| Kilos | no the one without the ups | 19:13 |
| inetpro | ahh | 19:13 |
| inetpro | nou verstaan ek beter | 19:13 |
| inetpro | was 'n lang dag | 19:14 |
| Kilos | one with ups is where i been doin g the repair to the 2 tb drive | 19:14 |
| inetpro | ya power failures are no good for a system, even though systems are so much more robust these days | 19:15 |
| Kilos | when in grub prompt and you type help the help file flashes past too wuick to see how do i get it page for page? | 19:15 |
| inetpro | like I said in that other channel of yours in the olden days you even had to park the drive to prevent a crash | 19:16 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:16 |
| Kilos | i gotta fix maverick | 19:16 |
| Kilos | i will fix maverick | 19:16 |
| inetpro | of course you will | 19:17 |
| inetpro | the hardware should be fine | 19:17 |
| * inetpro hasn't worked enough in the grub interface | 19:18 | |
| inetpro | maybe you can pipe to more as in | more | 19:18 |
| inetpro | that is fairly standard | 19:18 |
| inetpro | even since dos | 19:19 |
| Kilos | maybe its easier to put sisters drive there as sda and boot-repair | 19:20 |
| Kilos | i got a few saved downloaded pages on how to fix when on grub> on maverick | 19:20 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:20 |
| inetpro | what are the symptoms? | 19:21 |
| inetpro | just the mbr again? | 19:22 |
| Kilos | cant boot into desktop | 19:22 |
| Kilos | no | 19:22 |
| inetpro | what are the symptoms? | 19:22 |
| Kilos | its maverick | 19:22 |
| Kilos | it boots to grub menu | 19:22 |
| Kilos | but recovery is corrupt | 19:22 |
| Kilos | and that command thing there cant install stuff | 19:23 |
| inetpro | so you do see the grub menu? | 19:23 |
| Kilos | yes | 19:24 |
| inetpro | and when you choose an option? | 19:24 |
| Kilos | recovery runs scripts then hangs | 19:24 |
| inetpro | ai | 19:24 |
| Kilos | both of them but at different places | 19:24 |
| Kilos | latest one stops at irq number | 19:25 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 19:25 |
| Kilos | no worry inetpro lemme put sisters drive in there | 19:26 |
| Kilos | im sure boot-repair will fix it | 19:26 |
| inetpro | maybe you should create a small /boot separate partition next time | 19:27 |
| Kilos | it is 2g | 19:27 |
| Kilos | i can install another releasae and not format home as well | 19:28 |
| Kilos | but i love maverick | 19:28 |
| inetpro | if you keep a separate boot partition and something breaks then you have less to fix | 19:29 |
| smile4ever | byeeee :p | 19:30 |
| Kilos | toods smile4ever | 19:30 |
| inetpro | smile4ever: lekker slaap | 19:30 |
| Kilos | yip i always install with / /boot /home and /storage | 19:30 |
| smile4ever | dankie inetpro | 19:31 |
| Kilos | even unity and kde are done like that | 19:31 |
| smile4ever | dag oom kilos :p | 19:31 |
| Kilos | nag smile4ever | 19:31 |
| Kilos | lekker slaap | 19:31 |
| smile4ever | :D | 19:31 |
| Kilos | dag is day | 19:31 |
| inetpro | ahh | 19:31 |
| Kilos | or hello | 19:31 |
| inetpro | lol | 19:32 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hy't dit gemis | 19:32 |
| Kilos | ya man | 19:33 |
| Kilos | ai | 19:33 |
| Kilos | onthou my more om hom te se | 19:33 |
| inetpro | magespawn: wb | 19:38 |
| inetpro | sukkel jy? | 19:38 |
| * inetpro wonder waar bly superfly vandag | 19:39 | |
| Kilos | his quassel core is sick again | 19:39 |
| Kilos | hy jaag om goed klaar te kry | 19:39 |
| superfly | very busy | 19:39 |
| inetpro | superfly: sorry | 19:40 |
| Kilos | het jy daai ding van hom gesien inetpro | 19:40 |
| inetpro | Kilos: openlp | 19:40 |
| inetpro | ? | 19:40 |
| Kilos | ya | 19:40 |
| Kilos | i installed it here | 19:40 |
| inetpro | ja daai ding is ongelooflik | 19:40 |
| Kilos | lovely hey? | 19:41 |
| inetpro | weet nie hoekom enigiemand iets anders sal gebruik vir kerk doeleindes nie | 19:41 |
| Kilos | ek stem | 19:41 |
| inetpro | jy kan selfs die slideshow met jou selfoon dryf terwyl jy in jou kerbank sit | 19:42 |
| Kilos | wonderlik ne | 19:42 |
| inetpro | en dit word net elke dag beter en beter | 19:43 |
| Kilos | ja but he needs to get lotsa sleep | 19:43 |
| Kilos | missed sleep takes ages to catch up | 19:44 |
| inetpro | nee man, hy weet hoe om te slaap | 19:44 |
| Kilos | ja man maar hy het nie goeg tyd nie | 19:44 |
| inetpro | lol | 19:44 |
| inetpro | een van die dae het hy vakansie dan kan hy lekker slaap inhaal | 19:45 |
| Kilos | ja maar dis moelik met kleintjies by | 19:45 |
| Kilos | en hy het seker nog goed aan die gang ook | 19:46 |
| inetpro | ai | 19:46 |
| Kilos | uh oh | 19:47 |
| Kilos | nou hang sis se maverick | 19:47 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:47 |
| Kilos | eerste keer | 19:47 |
| Kilos | in die middel van boot-repair\ | 19:47 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:47 |
| inetpro | jy seker dit hang? | 19:48 |
| Kilos | dit wys daai ubuntu login skerm met die 5 rooi dotjies | 19:48 |
| inetpro | sometimes things look like they are hanging when suddenly all goes on again | 19:48 |
| * inetpro hates the rooi dotjies | 19:49 | |
| Kilos | it was on a desktop with boot-repair running | 19:49 |
| inetpro | I always disable the splash thingy | 19:49 |
| * inetpro wants to see what is happenin | 19:49 | |
| Kilos | now thats gone and that page with dots showing but no movement | 19:49 |
| Kilos | if it stops boot-repair halfway both drives gone | 19:50 |
| Kilos | no ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 | 19:51 |
| Kilos | sigh | 19:51 |
| inetpro | Kilos: how do you do a boot-repair while you have the bootup splash screen? | 19:53 |
| Kilos | her drive booted all the way in | 19:54 |
| inetpro | and? | 19:54 |
| Kilos | then i ran boot-repair | 19:54 |
| inetpro | from? | 19:54 |
| Kilos | places admin boot-repair | 19:54 |
| Kilos | it ran for about 10 mins scanning drives | 19:55 |
| inetpro | and then you rebooted? | 19:55 |
| Kilos | then splash screen | 19:55 |
| Kilos | weird | 19:55 |
| inetpro | nee man | 19:55 |
| Kilos | nope it didnt finish and say you can now reboot | 19:55 |
| inetpro | I verstaan nie lekker nie | 19:55 |
| Kilos | while boot-repair was running still the splash screen came up | 19:56 |
| inetpro | so you start boot-repair after getting fully into the working system? | 19:56 |
| Kilos | yessir | 19:56 |
| inetpro | what does it do? | 19:57 |
| inetpro | what does it have to do with the splash screen? | 19:57 |
| Kilos | it scans drives then fixes boot areas and then says now you can reboot | 19:57 |
| Kilos | it has never done this before | 19:57 |
| inetpro | is it a gui thing? | 19:58 |
| Kilos | ya | 19:58 |
| inetpro | ai | 19:58 |
| Kilos | it can run on one desktop while you carry on on the others | 19:58 |
| * inetpro hates gui | 19:58 | |
| Kilos | you can also do sudo boot-repair | 19:59 |
| Kilos | but still get a little window | 19:59 |
| inetpro | nee man | 19:59 |
| Kilos | huh | 19:59 |
| * inetpro would never do a low level disk repairing with a gui tool | 19:59 | |
| Kilos | it ask for password when it starts from places admin as well so | 20:00 |
| Kilos | works from root | 20:00 |
| inetpro | ai ai ai | 20:00 |
| Kilos | looks like goodbye maverick | 20:01 |
| Kilos | ai ai ai | 20:01 |
| inetpro | Kilos: says who? | 20:02 |
| Kilos | dunno if i will get to grub> again or even initramfs | 20:04 |
| Kilos | will see | 20:04 |
| Kilos | scared to turn it off | 20:04 |
| inetpro | why can you not just do the cli thing? | 20:05 |
| inetpro | sudo grub-install /dev/XXX | 20:05 |
| inetpro | where XXX is the device of your Ubuntu install. (eg: grub-install /dev/sdb) | 20:05 |
| Kilos | shoulda told me that before i tried boot repair | 20:06 |
| inetpro | boot repair should not mess up your partitions | 20:07 |
| inetpro | they should all be safe | 20:07 |
| Kilos | her drive dont boot | 20:08 |
| inetpro | well | 20:08 |
| Kilos | trying recovery | 20:08 |
| inetpro | teh partitions should still be ok | 20:08 |
| inetpro | unless you broke them | 20:08 |
| Kilos | ? | 20:08 |
| inetpro | what options did you choose with boot-repair? | 20:09 |
| Kilos | it didnt get to options | 20:09 |
| Kilos | normally use recommended one though | 20:09 |
| Kilos | was still scanning | 20:10 |
| inetpro | you just clicked the "Recommended repair" button? | 20:10 |
| Kilos | it didnt get that far | 20:10 |
| inetpro | boot up with live cd | 20:10 |
| inetpro | and in fact, don't even go to the gui | 20:11 |
| inetpro | just go to the cli to start | 20:11 |
| * inetpro hasn't done this for a long time, can you even boot to the cli with a live cd these days? | 20:12 | |
| Kilos | booting to maverick cd | 20:13 |
| Kilos | eeek | 20:13 |
| Kilos | lotsa red text in the background | 20:13 |
| inetpro | why? | 20:14 |
| Kilos | fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed is the last line | 20:14 |
| Kilos | ? | 20:14 |
| inetpro | ai | 20:14 |
| Kilos | everything is different | 20:15 |
| Kilos | showing text from live cd | 20:16 |
| Kilos | ? | 20:16 |
| Kilos | oh my | 20:17 |
| inetpro | everything is different? | 20:17 |
| inetpro | what? | 20:18 |
| inetpro | you fell off your chair? | 20:18 |
| Kilos | never seen text when booting from live cd | 20:18 |
| inetpro | ai | 20:18 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:19 |
| Kilos | maybe i can bring drive here and do sudo fsck -f /sdb | 20:20 |
| inetpro | nee | 20:20 |
| inetpro | well, before you try that just try the very simple sudo grub-install /dev/XXX | 20:21 |
| Kilos | live cd now stopped by kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10 | 20:21 |
| Kilos | cant boot from maverick cd | 20:21 |
| inetpro | now what does that tell you? | 20:22 |
| inetpro | try remove you HDD entirely and boot with live cd again | 20:22 |
| Kilos | live cd now stopped by kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10 | 20:22 |
| Kilos | lotsa text before that | 20:22 |
| inetpro | Kilos: try remove you HDD entirely and boot with live cd again | 20:22 |
| Kilos | there are sis_init and kernel_init lines | 20:23 |
| inetpro | the cd is read only, so can only be damaged by scratches | 20:23 |
| Kilos | ok | 20:23 |
| inetpro | press and hold the button to shut down | 20:23 |
| Kilos | ya | 20:23 |
| inetpro | don't just pull the plug, as mentioned earlier today | 20:23 |
| Kilos | 4 secs | 20:24 |
| inetpro | now remove all HDD drive cables and boot again with live cd | 20:25 |
| inetpro | obviously with the cd cables connected :-) | 20:25 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:26 |
| inetpro | s/HDD drives cables/HDD cables/ | 20:26 |
| Kilos | uhoh | 20:26 |
| inetpro | ai | 20:26 |
| Kilos | same script | 20:26 |
| inetpro | lol | 20:27 |
| Kilos | no live cd boot | 20:27 |
| Kilos | battery out time again | 20:27 |
| inetpro | huh? | 20:27 |
| Kilos | same text when booting from live cd | 20:27 |
| Kilos | maybe cd faulty | 20:27 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 20:28 |
| inetpro | maybe hardware faulty | 20:28 |
| Kilos | sjoe sjoe sjoe | 20:28 |
| inetpro | so at least you know it should not be the drive | 20:28 |
| Kilos | and look at the time | 20:28 |
| Kilos | you gotta go sleep | 20:28 |
| Kilos | and me | 20:28 |
| Kilos | yeah hopefully | 20:28 |
| inetpro | try resetting the bios thing as you said... well, tomorrow | 20:29 |
| Kilos | yeah will do when i awake | 20:29 |
| Kilos | ty for your help inetpro | 20:29 |
| inetpro | np | 20:29 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 20:30 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 20:30 |
| inetpro | goeie nag oom | 20:30 |
| Kilos | sien julle môre | 20:30 |
| Kilos | gaan slaap jy ook | 20:30 |
| Kilos | nou | 20:30 |
| Kilos | nie later nie inetpro | 20:30 |
| inetpro | ai | 20:31 |
| inetpro | te vroeg for me | 20:31 |
| Kilos | nee man | 20:31 |
| Kilos | jy oud | 20:31 |
| inetpro | lol | 20:31 |
| Kilos | hee hee | 20:31 |
| * inetpro can't remember the last time I slept before midnight | 20:31 | |
| Kilos | sjoe | 20:32 |
| inetpro | actually I'm lying | 20:32 |
| Kilos | and you wake when | 20:32 |
| inetpro | yesterday I think was early | 20:32 |
| inetpro | something like 23:50 | 20:32 |
| Kilos | ai | 20:32 |
| inetpro | and wake at ~7:00 | 20:32 |
| Kilos | go sleep now | 20:33 |
| Kilos | you had a long day | 20:33 |
| inetpro | ja ja | 20:33 |
| Kilos | ah 7 hours is good | 20:33 |
| Kilos | nag boetie | 20:33 |
| inetpro | nag oom | 20:33 |
| Kilos | stuur die vlieg ook bed toe | 20:33 |
| inetpro | haha | 20:33 |
| inetpro | jy kan hom niks vertel nie | 20:34 |
| inetpro | nag oom Ki[tab] | 20:34 |
| bakuman | Looks like te Sputnik has finally been released | 21:46 |
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