/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/11/29/#xubuntu.txt

=== azeam is now known as azeam_afk
=== azeam_afk is now known as azeam
mrPerezMarchi, i've read many tutorials but haven't found what i'm really looking for00:29
mrPerezMarcI would like to install (x)ubuntu with the minmum requirement to only have amp and a browser00:30
mrPerezMarcefrom what i read the installation should be less than 100 mb00:31
pleia2you can use the ubuntu-core CD and install what you like00:31
pleia2but that's not Xubuntu :)00:31
mrPerezMarci tried that, it still installed all the apps and took 500mb00:32
pleia2what did you tell it to install?00:32
mrPerezMarci downloaded mini.iso and installed from commend line following thie tutorial00:32
pleia2what tutorial?00:32
mrPerezMarchttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal#barebones00:33
pleia2"After this minimal install (using Ubuntu 12.04 as an example for these screenshots), the total installation size is a little over 1 GB."00:33
mrPerezMarcit's astill a 1.2 gig installation00:33
mrPerezMarclol00:33
pleia2not sure where you came up with "less than 100 mb"00:33
mrPerezMarcyeah, i read somewhere that a 100mb install is possible00:34
pleia2not with that tutorial00:34
pleia2a minimal ubuntu install with graphical interface can't be that small, you probably want to use a different distro00:36
mrPerezMarcsomething with xfce00:37
mrPerezMarcand that has amp00:37
pleia2I highly doubt it00:37
pleia2you'll need to use something smaller, like blackbox or something00:37
mrPerezMarci have a mac with parallels, and just want a server to install script that isn't part of my computer00:37
pleia2good luck, this is offtopic here :)00:37
mrPerezMarcso xubuntu wouldn't have something like that00:42
donald_duckalgum brasileiro ae?01:29
donald_duckhi01:32
=== azeam is now known as azeam_afk
overtonehi all, i have a wifi question02:46
overtoneam i in the right place?02:46
overtonei'm running dual-boot windows vista and xubuntu 12.04 on a HP machine02:46
overtonei've been through the message boards and nothing seems to make a difference02:47
overtoneit tells me that the wifi hardware switch is turned off02:47
overtonehellooooo?02:48
raytrayovertone, hi, someone will help you when they see it and know the answer to your question02:50
raytrayovertone, but at the moment, you havn't really asked a question, and thus there is no answer that can be given.02:50
overtonequestion: how can i enable my wifi?02:50
Unit193Did you try turning the hardware switch?02:52
Unit193!wifi02:52
ubot93Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:52
overtoneif you can tell me where it is, i'd be happy to flip it02:52
Unit193I have no idea where it would be on your laptop, may be a Fn+something key, or an actual switch.  Windows work with it?  Have the driver for linux?  Check "Additional Drivers"?  Have you read the wiki page on it?02:54
overtoneyeah i've read the wiki page and several message boards02:54
overtonei haven't come across the "wireless tools" package before though02:54
overtonekind of a catch-22 that i can't download it because i don't have internet capability02:55
raytrayCan you plug in an ethernet cable momentarily?02:55
overtoneunfortunately no02:55
overtonewhat's 'additional drivers'?02:55
overtonesome people have said fn+f12 would work for manually switching it on, but it didn't do anything02:56
Zelouilleovertone, on my HP dv9600~, the hardware switch is on the front side, near the HDD and power indicators.03:22
lotatohello! is anyone very familiar with the xfce terminal?03:39
lotatospecifically in regards to fonts :]03:39
Unit193Edit > Preferences > Appearance.03:41
lotatoI was wondering (hoping) if it were possible to set multiple fonts, such as urxvt?03:41
lotatofor handling non-english characters03:41
puffI have a thinkpad t520 running xubuntu 11.10 and a minidock plus series 3, I just bought a Dell U2412 monitor.  I've plugged the displayport cable into the monitor and into both displayports, th emonitor says "no VGA cable\n The display will go into Power Save Mode in 5 minutes.  How do I enable the monitor?04:19
WeemsI am in a login screen loop. I cannot get past the main login screen after I enter my password it reloads the screen.05:50
Sallengerhello xubuntu friends!06:00
Sallengeris anyone in here?06:01
well_laid_lawnWeems: can you login on a tty?06:04
well_laid_lawnctrl+alt+F2 for tty2 and ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to the login screen06:05
Weemsyes06:11
well_laid_lawncheck the X log for any errors06:12
Weemstried renaming  and deleting .Xauthority but to no avail, it must be recreating itself06:12
Weemsdo you know the location06:12
well_laid_lawn /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:13
well_laid_lawnit's easiest to start with   grep EEE /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:13
well_laid_lawnoops06:13
well_laid_lawnit's easiest to start with   grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:13
Weemsww warning, EE error NI not implemented, (??) Unknown06:17
Weems(II) xkb: reusing xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/server-mysteryhex06:18
well_laid_lawnX must be ok then06:20
well_laid_lawnis there .ICEAuthority file in your home dir?06:20
Weemsyes06:23
=== elena_IK is now known as elena-IK
Weemsand .Xauthority06:24
well_laid_lawniirc the .ice file can stop you logging in - you might have to kill lightdm before removing it06:26
well_laid_lawnit'll be recreated next login06:26
Weemsok06:26
WeemsI did sudo service lightdm stop and it just says lightdm stop/waiting06:28
Weemshow do I finally shut it down06:28
well_laid_lawnsudo stop lightdm   afaik06:29
Weemsyay thanks. worked.06:31
well_laid_lawnI was making a pizza - great to hear :)06:44
=== jackson__ is now known as Noskcaj
=== azeam_afk is now known as azeam
mahmoud__I need to install Arabic, with the ability to switch between English and Arabic using a keyboard switcher or so.11:12
mahmoud__Anyone can help with that?11:15
GridCube!info synaptic12:58
ubot93synaptic (source: synaptic): Graphical package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.75.12build1 (quantal), package size 2389 kB, installed size 7686 kB12:59
GridCube:/thats not xubuntu specific right?12:59
GridCubeits ubuntu where synaptic its optional?12:59
mahmoud_My panel is messed up. And I would like to restore it to it's default state. How to do it?13:40
GridCubemahmoud_, go to ~/.config/xfce4/panel and delete all the files, relogin and they should respawn13:41
mahmoud_GridCube, didn't work. The icons in the bottom panel just got removed.13:44
=== Barnabas_ is now known as BarnabasDK
GridCubemahmoud_ then delete all the files under ~/.config/xfce4  :|13:46
GridCubeit should just revert to the defaults13:46
GridCubei though the panel ones where ennough, but apparently they arent13:47
GridCubemahmoud_, ? :)13:49
mahmoud_GridCube, will try removing all the files in xfce4 :)13:49
GridCubeas i said before13:50
GridCubei though the panel ones where ennough, but apparently they arent13:50
mahmoud_GridCube, it worked but obviously it restored all the desktop settings to default not just the panel :)13:51
GridCubemmhm yes, thats why i suggested just the panels first13:57
=== azeam is now known as azeam_afk
Bartzy|workHi15:52
Bartzy|workWhere is gnome-keyring-manager?15:52
Bartzy|workOr.. How do I manage gnome-keyring ?15:53
Tm_Thello17:19
knomehullo Tm_T17:19
xubuntu404hi, french chan ?18:00
Pici!fr18:00
ubottuNous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.18:00
xubuntu404ho, sry =)18:00
Firehopperamyone around to give a bit of help? I'm running it on a VM and having issues with terminal.. need help setting the path18:43
holsteinFirehopper: you can use tab to complete the path18:44
FirehopperI need to add something to the path so that it loads automaticly each time a terminal is opened.18:45
well_laid_lawnFirehopper:18:45
well_laid_lawnhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/60218/how-to-add-a-directory-to-my-path18:45
FirehopperI tried putting it in .bash-profile and .profile18:45
Firehopperbut its not reading them18:45
well_laid_lawnyou need to relogin18:45
well_laid_lawnthe dot profile files are read when you login18:47
Firehopperlemme try once more18:49
well_laid_lawnyou might have the syntax wrong if it doesn't work when you login - paste the file you added it to18:50
well_laid_lawn!paste18:50
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:50
FirehopperI'm running it in a VM, so its hard to paste :) hang on18:51
Firehopperrestarting the VM18:51
well_laid_lawnk18:51
Firehopperokay..18:55
Firehopperdoing a echo $PATH does not show my path I need to add18:56
Firehopperin .bash_profile18:57
FirehopperI have the line18:57
FirehopperPATH="/usr/local/bin/bin:${PATH}"18:58
Firehopperthen the next line is export PATH18:58
well_laid_lawndid you mean to have /bin/bin - two bins ?18:58
Firehopperyes18:58
well_laid_lawnk18:58
Firehopperthe second bin is where the arm-none-eabi files at18:59
well_laid_lawnin .bash_profile you don't need to export the path18:59
Firehopperwhat about the {} things?19:00
Firehopperare they messing things up?19:00
well_laid_lawnI'd say it is the " you don't have right19:00
well_laid_lawntry   PATH=/usr/local/bin/bin:"${PATH}"19:01
well_laid_lawnyou can do it on the cli then  export $PATH19:02
well_laid_lawnso   PATH=/usr/local/bin/bin:"${PATH}"; export $PATH; echo $PATH19:02
Firehopperworks that way, but I dont want to have to type that in each time..19:04
Firehopperbut it doesnt seem to be reading the profile files19:05
Firehopperit does complain about the export though19:05
well_laid_lawnchange the " in the .bash_profile to match19:05
well_laid_lawnwhat's the complaint?19:06
Firehopperit says19:07
Firehopperbash: export : with a long path list, is not a valid identifier19:08
FirehopperI put that path thing into the bash profile, but it still isnt reading it19:09
well_laid_lawnI'm guessing one of the dir in the path isn't right19:09
Firehopperloading a fresh terminal (didnt log out of xubuntu) and my path isnt there19:09
well_laid_lawnyou have to log out and back in for changes in .bash_profile to be picked up19:10
well_laid_lawnand using export only works in the one terminal afaik19:10
Firehopperalright logging out19:11
Firehoppernope19:12
Firehoppertyping echo $PATH gives nothing\19:14
FirehopperI get the path I've had, but my addition isnt there19:15
well_laid_lawnwhat does   echo $SHELL   return?19:15
Firehopper/bin/bash19:17
Firehopperhrmm19:19
FirehopperI had to put it in .profile19:19
Firehopperand in the proper spot!19:19
FirehopperI had it in the wrong spot :)19:19
well_laid_lawnheh :)19:19
Firehopperyay :)19:19
Firehopperwhoot its working.19:20
well_laid_lawnit works in .bash_profile here19:20
well_laid_lawn [[ -d ~/.bin ]]     && PATH=~/.bin:"${PATH}"19:20
FirehopperI dunno19:22
Firehoppersomething stupid in my VM I guess19:22
Firehopperbut it seems to be working now19:22
alexxxxxaHi, people! Fresh installed 12.10. Can somebody help me how to install language bar on top right bar, so I could easily change typing language?20:23
raytrayalexxxxxa, Look into keyboard layouts and there is a panel item you can add called keyboard layouts20:26
alexxxxxathanks :)20:29
alexxxxxaI remembered20:29
puffTrying to get nvidia worknig, could use some pointers.20:40
puffapt shows an nvidia-current package, is that the same as the drivers on nvidia's website?20:40
alexxxafolks, I can't remember how exactly did I install wireless previous time. Only thing I remember is ndiswrapper and windows driver, and adding some lines (one of it is to startup, I believe that it has to do with modprobe, but am not sure.)20:42
alexxxaCan you help me?20:42
well_laid_lawnpuff: might not be the absolute latest but yes20:43
alexxxawhen adding .inf  in ndisgtk, there's an error: FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.20:45
alexxxaBut it's installed20:45
puffwell_laid_lawn: apt-get show doesn't seem to show a version number, any idea how I'd check?20:46
well_laid_lawnpuff: tried running   nvidia-xconfig    it might show a version20:48
well_laid_lawnalexxxa: you might not need ndiswrapper - you can check your card here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported20:49
well_laid_lawnalexxxa: if you need ndiswrapper this page will help - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28ManufacturerModel%2920:50
puffwell_laid_lawn: There is no nvidia-config here... Does that come with the nvidia drivers?20:50
puffGuess I'll go ahead and install nvidia-current, should be a fairly safe thing to do.20:51
well_laid_lawnpuff: there's an x   nvidia-xconfig    and you won't have it untill you install it - synaptics should show a version20:54
puffwell_laid_lawn: Searching for nvidia-xconfig doesn't get any results, but I installed nvidia-current and it looks like that had nvidia-settings as a dependency, and one of those two had nvidia-xconfig.20:58
well_laid_lawnok20:59
puffHm, it says here I'm supposed to just run nvidia-xconfig as root and then restart X.  Under ubuntu I'd kill/restart X by searching for gdm, but "ps -ef | fgrep -i gdm" isn't finding anything.21:14
knomepuff, that's because xubuntu isn't running gdm21:14
puffRight, so... what *is* xubuntu running?21:15
knomelightdm21:15
puffWell, that's fun.21:17
puffSo, "sudo service lightdm restart" gets me back to the login screen.  I login, I get a flash of the terminal, a flash of the NVIDIA splash graphic, then... back to the login screen.21:18
TheSheeppuff: check the logs in /var/log/Xorg.0.log21:26
puffTheSheep: doh, good point, thanks.21:34
puff Lovely, "Segmentation fault at address (nil)"22:46
holsteinpuff: i would probably just look and see if there is an xorg.conf...22:49
puffholstein: darksleep.com/puff/nvidia_segfault.txt22:52
puffholstein: There is one.22:53
puffholstein: That URL has the all the details, just appended the xorg.conf to it (logged in through the virtual text terminals, can't use pastebin easily without a GUI).22:54
holstein!pastebin | puff maybe try pastebin22:54
ubottupuff maybe try pastebin: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:54
holsteinpuff: O I C ...well, its not doing anything for me22:55
puffholstein: ? In what sense... no page there?22:55
holsteinhttp://www.darksleep.com/puff/nvidia_segfault.txt nor others22:55
holsteinpuff: correct.. nothing is there22:55
holsteinanyways, i would just specify a different driver.. or purge the nvidia one22:56
puffholstein: Sorry, typo in the name, fixed now.22:56
holsteini might just  change to vesa to get back in     Driver         "nvidia"22:57
puffholstein:  I can always uninstall nvidia-current and then  restore /etc/X11 from the backup I made before running nvidia-xconfig.  But that takes me back to square one, trying to get this external monitor to work.22:57
puffholstein: ?22:57
holsteinpuff: cool.. im just late to the party.. i read that you were segfaulting.. i didnt know you were not wanting to fix that, but rather just move on22:58
puffSorry, didn't quite follow that... are you saying edit xorg.conf and change Driver "nvidia" to Driver "vesa"?22:58
puffholstein: I'm trying to get my thinkpad to drive my spiffy new monitor... it's been quite frustrating.22:58
holsteinpuff: i can tell you how i have my dual head on nvidia working.. with the proprietary driver and tool... generated an xorg22:58
puffholstein: Did you use the nvidia-current package, or download it from nvidia?22:58
holsteinpuff: i just used the one from the repos... not the "experimental" one22:59
puffThe one from the repos... would that be package nvidia-current?22:59
holsteinpuff: i could look if you need.. its on another machine.. but that is what i recall, though i did it through the GUI23:00
v1adimirholstein: my worked with dual head, out-of-the-box with nvidia-current and nvidia-settings23:00
v1adimir*also23:00
v1adimirbtw :)23:00
holsteinv1adimir: just generated the xorg, and bob was your uncle? correct? ...nvidia-current?23:00
puffv1adimir: Lucky you :-)23:00
* puff bangs his head against the keyboard.23:01
v1adimirpuff: i DID have problems with it.. but then just installed with no extra drivers, just default23:01
v1adimir(actually one install worked when doing nvidia-current afterwards; no generating anything)23:01
holsteinyup.. likewise... it wasnt a magical easy eperience at first. though the last install i just installed the package and ran the GUI and boom23:02
puffInteresting... tried editing xorg.conf and setting Driver "vesa", then "sudo service restart lightdm", but it got stuck on the boot terminal.23:02
v1adimir^^ yeah, something like that23:02
puff"the GUI" would be...23:02
puffwhat?23:02
holsteinpuff: i would blow that xorg out, and use the gui tool23:02
puffholstein: Which GUI tool?23:02
holsteinpuff: the nvidia settings in the menu..23:02
puffAh... actually, when I ran nvidia-settings, it told me to do "sudo nvidia-xconfig" to generate an xorg.conf.23:03
holsteinpuff: the one that comes with the driver.. from the repos. for configuring dual head or whatever23:03
holsteinpuff: sure.. this generated an xorg for me as well23:03
v1adimir.. with Quantal, it's in the Settings Manager: 'NVIDIA X Server Settings'23:03
holsteinpuff: the difference id say is, i got to see the settings working.. instead of running a shell command, and crossing my fingers23:03
puffRight... I ran nvidia-settings, it said "You don't appear to be using the nvida drivers.  Run "nvidia-xconfig" as root.23:03
puffAnd I did... and now X segfaults.23:03
v1adimirpuff: did you try to install nvidia-current using Synaptic?23:04
v1adimir(which you should :))23:04
puffv1adimir: I installed nvidia-current using aptitude.23:04
puffv1adimir: Should be the same.23:04
v1adimirnah, skip the command line; perhaps try with Synaptic23:04
puffv1adimir: Sure, why not.23:04
v1adimirshould be, but maybe it isn't :D23:04
holsteini would purge what you got puff , and just try the gui.. look in the menu for available drivers and try that way..23:05
puffTo restor /etc/X11 should I just wholesale copy my backup of /etc/X11 over it?23:05
holsteinpuff: i would purge, and backup what you want... just remove or rename the xorg and get to a desktop23:06
puffOr just copy backup_etc_x11/xorg.conf over /etc/X11/xorg.conf?23:06
holsteinpuff: i would just blow it out.. you dont need one if the driver is not there.. default xubuntu doesnt have one.. i would purge the driver and remove the xorg after backing up everything i need/want23:08
puffokay, now I'm back in, at 640 x 480, ugh.  Installing nvida-current via synatpic.23:10
v1adimiryeah it's better to cp as backup23:12
puffOkay, so synaptic is done, now what?23:13
v1adimirlog out / back in (or reboot) ?? :)23:13
v1adimirrun nvidia-settings23:13
holsteinyou gotta reboot for that23:13
holsteinits a kernel module that requires a reboot AFAIK23:14
puffOkay, reboot then run nvidia-settings?23:14
puffShould I perhaps do "save current x configuration" in the nvidia-settings dialog, before rebooting?23:14
holsteinpuff: reboot... login.. click on nvidia settings in the menu... configure.. save xorg... reboot.. test23:15
v1adimirapply and Save to X configuration file from within23:15
holsteinpuff: i woudnt do *anything* automated23:15
puffIt looks like my backup /etc/X11 doesn't even contain an xorg.conf, which makes no sense to me.23:15
v1adimirit's ok for first run after installing23:15
puffOkay, rebooting.23:15
v1adimirgl :D23:16
holsteinit came with no xorg.conf out of the box.. and the ones you have havent been working.. so i wouldnt lose any sleep over the backups23:16
puffOkay, back up and running, much higher resolution this time, now running nvidia-settings.23:18
puffIt does *not* give me the "you don't appear to be using nvidia drivers" popup this time.23:19
holsteinpuff: maybe that driver is not the driver for your device23:19
holsteini would refer to23:19
holstein!nvidia23:19
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto23:19
puffNo, I think this is good... nvidia-settings is listing the new monitor, ec.23:20
holsteinand make sure you are getting the driver that works with your card23:20
holsteinpuff: good luck.. i had that message when i was installing the incorrect driver23:20
holsteinmanually23:20
puffholstein: I think you misread what I said... this time it *doesn't* give me that message.  Which I think is a positive indicator.23:21
holsteinpuff: hehe.. i see the *not* now23:21
holsteinpuff: i was on the phone with someone and not wanting to be... back to full attention now23:21
holsteinpuff: all i did from there was get the desktop looking the way i wanted, and saved an xorg.conf23:22
puffOkay, so I click on the dell monitor box in the screen layout thing, select Configuration: twinview.23:22
holsteini did the one that didnt require a reboot23:22
puffResolution is "auto", the screen layout thing says 1920x1200, while the built-in is 1920x1080.  Will that be a problem?  Should I manually set the dell's resolution to the same as the built-in?23:23
v1adimirpuff: don't mess with the screen size and all that; just leave it default until everything is working first and then back all of that up23:23
v1adimirthen you can dig into it =)23:23
puffOkay.23:23
holsteinyeah. its a tweak-fest in there23:24
v1adimirmine's all default and it basically a 'problem' with just Flash in fullscreen and a couple of other things; don't think I'm ever even gonna bother configuring it :$23:24
puffArhgh... and we're back to segfaulting.23:27
puffSigh.23:28
v1adimir:\23:28
holsteinpuff: and you've tried the driver from nvidia site?23:36
puffNot yet.23:39
puffNo, not from the site... I've heard that's riskeir.23:39
puffhm, there's a #nvidia...23:39
holsteinpuff: its literally the other option you have.. well one of 2.. but you wont like the other option23:40
puffone thought, maybe I should try it at 1920x1080.23:40
puffHeh.23:40
holsteinpuff: the first they will say in #nvidia is to use the driver from the site23:40
puffOkay, I don't see where in xorg.conf to change the 1920x1200 to 1920x1080... is there an easy way to do it from the command line, or should I blow away xconf.org?23:40
holsteinpuff: i would try a resolution that is simple. and works.. in the gui, so you know its possible23:41
holsteinpuff: i wouldnt make changes manually and expect them to boot23:41
puffSo... delete xorg.conf?23:41
holsteinpuff: i would go to the nvida gui tool.ll set the resolution as i want and save the xorg.conf back23:41
holsteinpuff: if its borked, you can delete it23:41
puffI can't go to the GUI tool until I can get the GUI working...23:42
puffAll I have at the moment is the command line.  Is it safe to delete xorg.conf?23:42
holsteinpuff: sure.. just undo whatever manual settings you put in that broke it.. or, remove the xorg and go back to the gui from the desktop... test the settings there.. save the xorg.conf23:42
holsteinpuff: i set my screen resolutions there in the gui.. saw them functioning.. then saved that to an xorg.conf that was safer to assume would boot23:43
puffholstein: I didn't *do* any manual settings, all I did was via nvidia-settings, which was just selecting the dell screen and changing "disabled" to "twinview".23:43
puffOkay, deleting xorg.conf and rebooting.23:43
xubuntu711#hello23:47
xubuntu711im installing now!23:47
Unit193Howdy.23:47
xubuntu711i clicked the click here thing23:47
xubuntu711and now i am here23:47
puffSigh... okay, deleted xorg.conf, rebooted, ran nvidia-settings, selected explicitly 1920x1080, tried "Apply" (I didn't see a "test" button).  The laptop screen worked fine, but still no video signal on the dell monitor.  Just for giggles I tried it again with 1920x1200, same result, laptop screen worked fine but no signal on the dell monitor.23:58
puffSet it to 1920x1080 and saved to xorg.conf, rebooted.  Same result as before, login page displays but xserver segfaults.23:59
mezzox.23:59

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!