[00:29] <mrPerezMarc> hi, i've read many tutorials but haven't found what i'm really looking for
[00:30] <mrPerezMarc> I would like to install (x)ubuntu with the minmum requirement to only have amp and a browser
[00:31] <mrPerezMarc> efrom what i read the installation should be less than 100 mb
[00:31] <pleia2> you can use the ubuntu-core CD and install what you like
[00:31] <pleia2> but that's not Xubuntu :)
[00:32] <mrPerezMarc> i tried that, it still installed all the apps and took 500mb
[00:32] <pleia2> what did you tell it to install?
[00:32] <mrPerezMarc> i downloaded mini.iso and installed from commend line following thie tutorial
[00:32] <pleia2> what tutorial?
[00:33] <mrPerezMarc> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal#barebones
[00:33] <pleia2> "After this minimal install (using Ubuntu 12.04 as an example for these screenshots), the total installation size is a little over 1 GB."
[00:33] <mrPerezMarc> it's astill a 1.2 gig installation
[00:33] <mrPerezMarc> lol
[00:33] <pleia2> not sure where you came up with "less than 100 mb"
[00:34] <mrPerezMarc> yeah, i read somewhere that a 100mb install is possible
[00:34] <pleia2> not with that tutorial
[00:36] <pleia2> a minimal ubuntu install with graphical interface can't be that small, you probably want to use a different distro
[00:37] <mrPerezMarc> something with xfce
[00:37] <mrPerezMarc> and that has amp
[00:37] <pleia2> I highly doubt it
[00:37] <pleia2> you'll need to use something smaller, like blackbox or something
[00:37] <mrPerezMarc> i have a mac with parallels, and just want a server to install script that isn't part of my computer
[00:37] <pleia2> good luck, this is offtopic here :)
[00:42] <mrPerezMarc> so xubuntu wouldn't have something like that
[01:29] <donald_duck> algum brasileiro ae?
[01:32] <donald_duck> hi
[02:46] <overtone> hi all, i have a wifi question
[02:46] <overtone> am i in the right place?
[02:46] <overtone> i'm running dual-boot windows vista and xubuntu 12.04 on a HP machine
[02:47] <overtone> i've been through the message boards and nothing seems to make a difference
[02:47] <overtone> it tells me that the wifi hardware switch is turned off
[02:48] <overtone> hellooooo?
[02:50] <raytray> overtone, hi, someone will help you when they see it and know the answer to your question
[02:50] <raytray> overtone, but at the moment, you havn't really asked a question, and thus there is no answer that can be given.
[02:50] <overtone> question: how can i enable my wifi?
[02:52] <Unit193> Did you try turning the hardware switch?
[02:52] <Unit193> !wifi
[02:52] <overtone> if you can tell me where it is, i'd be happy to flip it
[02:54] <Unit193> I have no idea where it would be on your laptop, may be a Fn+something key, or an actual switch.  Windows work with it?  Have the driver for linux?  Check "Additional Drivers"?  Have you read the wiki page on it?
[02:54] <overtone> yeah i've read the wiki page and several message boards
[02:54] <overtone> i haven't come across the "wireless tools" package before though
[02:55] <overtone> kind of a catch-22 that i can't download it because i don't have internet capability
[02:55] <raytray> Can you plug in an ethernet cable momentarily?
[02:55] <overtone> unfortunately no
[02:55] <overtone> what's 'additional drivers'?
[02:56] <overtone> some people have said fn+f12 would work for manually switching it on, but it didn't do anything
[03:22] <Zelouille> overtone, on my HP dv9600~, the hardware switch is on the front side, near the HDD and power indicators.
[03:39] <lotato> hello! is anyone very familiar with the xfce terminal?
[03:39] <lotato> specifically in regards to fonts :]
[03:41] <Unit193> Edit > Preferences > Appearance.
[03:41] <lotato> I was wondering (hoping) if it were possible to set multiple fonts, such as urxvt?
[03:41] <lotato> for handling non-english characters
[04:19] <puff> I have a thinkpad t520 running xubuntu 11.10 and a minidock plus series 3, I just bought a Dell U2412 monitor.  I've plugged the displayport cable into the monitor and into both displayports, th emonitor says "no VGA cable\n The display will go into Power Save Mode in 5 minutes.  How do I enable the monitor?
[05:50] <Weems> I am in a login screen loop. I cannot get past the main login screen after I enter my password it reloads the screen.
[06:00] <Sallenger> hello xubuntu friends!
[06:01] <Sallenger> is anyone in here?
[06:04] <well_laid_lawn> Weems: can you login on a tty?
[06:05] <well_laid_lawn> ctrl+alt+F2 for tty2 and ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to the login screen
[06:11] <Weems> yes
[06:12] <well_laid_lawn> check the X log for any errors
[06:12] <Weems> tried renaming  and deleting .Xauthority but to no avail, it must be recreating itself
[06:12] <Weems> do you know the location
[06:13] <well_laid_lawn>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:13] <well_laid_lawn> it's easiest to start with   grep EEE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:13] <well_laid_lawn> oops
[06:13] <well_laid_lawn> it's easiest to start with   grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:17] <Weems> ww warning, EE error NI not implemented, (??) Unknown
[06:18] <Weems> (II) xkb: reusing xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/server-mysteryhex
[06:20] <well_laid_lawn> X must be ok then
[06:20] <well_laid_lawn> is there .ICEAuthority file in your home dir?
[06:23] <Weems> yes
[06:24] <Weems> and .Xauthority
[06:26] <well_laid_lawn> iirc the .ice file can stop you logging in - you might have to kill lightdm before removing it
[06:26] <well_laid_lawn> it'll be recreated next login
[06:26] <Weems> ok
[06:28] <Weems> I did sudo service lightdm stop and it just says lightdm stop/waiting
[06:28] <Weems> how do I finally shut it down
[06:29] <well_laid_lawn> sudo stop lightdm   afaik
[06:31] <Weems> yay thanks. worked.
[06:44] <well_laid_lawn> I was making a pizza - great to hear :)
[11:12] <mahmoud__> I need to install Arabic, with the ability to switch between English and Arabic using a keyboard switcher or so.
[11:15] <mahmoud__> Anyone can help with that?
[12:58] <GridCube> !info synaptic
[12:59] <GridCube> :/thats not xubuntu specific right?
[12:59] <GridCube> its ubuntu where synaptic its optional?
[13:40] <mahmoud_> My panel is messed up. And I would like to restore it to it's default state. How to do it?
[13:41] <GridCube> mahmoud_, go to ~/.config/xfce4/panel and delete all the files, relogin and they should respawn
[13:44] <mahmoud_> GridCube, didn't work. The icons in the bottom panel just got removed.
[13:46] <GridCube> mahmoud_ then delete all the files under ~/.config/xfce4  :|
[13:46] <GridCube> it should just revert to the defaults
[13:47] <GridCube> i though the panel ones where ennough, but apparently they arent
[13:49] <GridCube> mahmoud_, ? :)
[13:49] <mahmoud_> GridCube, will try removing all the files in xfce4 :)
[13:50] <GridCube> as i said before
[13:50] <GridCube> i though the panel ones where ennough, but apparently they arent
[13:51] <mahmoud_> GridCube, it worked but obviously it restored all the desktop settings to default not just the panel :)
[13:57] <GridCube> mmhm yes, thats why i suggested just the panels first
[15:52] <Bartzy|work> Hi
[15:52] <Bartzy|work> Where is gnome-keyring-manager?
[15:53] <Bartzy|work> Or.. How do I manage gnome-keyring ?
[17:19] <Tm_T> hello
[17:19] <knome> hullo Tm_T
[18:00] <xubuntu404> hi, french chan ?
[18:00] <Pici> !fr
[18:00] <xubuntu404> ho, sry =)
[18:43] <Firehopper> amyone around to give a bit of help? I'm running it on a VM and having issues with terminal.. need help setting the path
[18:44] <holstein> Firehopper: you can use tab to complete the path
[18:45] <Firehopper> I need to add something to the path so that it loads automaticly each time a terminal is opened.
[18:45] <well_laid_lawn> Firehopper:
[18:45] <well_laid_lawn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/60218/how-to-add-a-directory-to-my-path
[18:45] <Firehopper> I tried putting it in .bash-profile and .profile
[18:45] <Firehopper> but its not reading them
[18:45] <well_laid_lawn> you need to relogin
[18:47] <well_laid_lawn> the dot profile files are read when you login
[18:49] <Firehopper> lemme try once more
[18:50] <well_laid_lawn> you might have the syntax wrong if it doesn't work when you login - paste the file you added it to
[18:50] <well_laid_lawn> !paste
[18:51] <Firehopper> I'm running it in a VM, so its hard to paste :) hang on
[18:51] <Firehopper> restarting the VM
[18:51] <well_laid_lawn> k
[18:55] <Firehopper> okay..
[18:56] <Firehopper> doing a echo $PATH does not show my path I need to add
[18:57] <Firehopper> in .bash_profile
[18:57] <Firehopper> I have the line
[18:58] <Firehopper> PATH="/usr/local/bin/bin:${PATH}"
[18:58] <Firehopper> then the next line is export PATH
[18:58] <well_laid_lawn> did you mean to have /bin/bin - two bins ?
[18:58] <Firehopper> yes
[18:58] <well_laid_lawn> k
[18:59] <Firehopper> the second bin is where the arm-none-eabi files at
[18:59] <well_laid_lawn> in .bash_profile you don't need to export the path
[19:00] <Firehopper> what about the {} things?
[19:00] <Firehopper> are they messing things up?
[19:00] <well_laid_lawn> I'd say it is the " you don't have right
[19:01] <well_laid_lawn> try   PATH=/usr/local/bin/bin:"${PATH}"
[19:02] <well_laid_lawn> you can do it on the cli then  export $PATH
[19:02] <well_laid_lawn> so   PATH=/usr/local/bin/bin:"${PATH}"; export $PATH; echo $PATH
[19:04] <Firehopper> works that way, but I dont want to have to type that in each time..
[19:05] <Firehopper> but it doesnt seem to be reading the profile files
[19:05] <Firehopper> it does complain about the export though
[19:05] <well_laid_lawn> change the " in the .bash_profile to match
[19:06] <well_laid_lawn> what's the complaint?
[19:07] <Firehopper> it says
[19:08] <Firehopper> bash: export : with a long path list, is not a valid identifier
[19:09] <Firehopper> I put that path thing into the bash profile, but it still isnt reading it
[19:09] <well_laid_lawn> I'm guessing one of the dir in the path isn't right
[19:09] <Firehopper> loading a fresh terminal (didnt log out of xubuntu) and my path isnt there
[19:10] <well_laid_lawn> you have to log out and back in for changes in .bash_profile to be picked up
[19:10] <well_laid_lawn> and using export only works in the one terminal afaik
[19:11] <Firehopper> alright logging out
[19:12] <Firehopper> nope
[19:14] <Firehopper> typing echo $PATH gives nothing\
[19:15] <Firehopper> I get the path I've had, but my addition isnt there
[19:15] <well_laid_lawn> what does   echo $SHELL   return?
[19:17] <Firehopper> /bin/bash
[19:19] <Firehopper> hrmm
[19:19] <Firehopper> I had to put it in .profile
[19:19] <Firehopper> and in the proper spot!
[19:19] <Firehopper> I had it in the wrong spot :)
[19:19] <well_laid_lawn> heh :)
[19:19] <Firehopper> yay :)
[19:20] <Firehopper> whoot its working.
[19:20] <well_laid_lawn> it works in .bash_profile here
[19:20] <well_laid_lawn>  [[ -d ~/.bin ]]     && PATH=~/.bin:"${PATH}"
[19:22] <Firehopper> I dunno
[19:22] <Firehopper> something stupid in my VM I guess
[19:22] <Firehopper> but it seems to be working now
[20:23] <alexxxxxa> Hi, people! Fresh installed 12.10. Can somebody help me how to install language bar on top right bar, so I could easily change typing language?
[20:26] <raytray> alexxxxxa, Look into keyboard layouts and there is a panel item you can add called keyboard layouts
[20:29] <alexxxxxa> thanks :)
[20:29] <alexxxxxa> I remembered
[20:40] <puff> Trying to get nvidia worknig, could use some pointers.
[20:40] <puff> apt shows an nvidia-current package, is that the same as the drivers on nvidia's website?
[20:42] <alexxxa> folks, I can't remember how exactly did I install wireless previous time. Only thing I remember is ndiswrapper and windows driver, and adding some lines (one of it is to startup, I believe that it has to do with modprobe, but am not sure.)
[20:42] <alexxxa> Can you help me?
[20:43] <well_laid_lawn> puff: might not be the absolute latest but yes
[20:45] <alexxxa> when adding .inf  in ndisgtk, there's an error: FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[20:45] <alexxxa> But it's installed
[20:46] <puff> well_laid_lawn: apt-get show doesn't seem to show a version number, any idea how I'd check?
[20:48] <well_laid_lawn> puff: tried running   nvidia-xconfig    it might show a version
[20:49] <well_laid_lawn> alexxxa: you might not need ndiswrapper - you can check your card here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[20:50] <well_laid_lawn> alexxxa: if you need ndiswrapper this page will help - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28ManufacturerModel%29
[20:50] <puff> well_laid_lawn: There is no nvidia-config here... Does that come with the nvidia drivers?
[20:51] <puff> Guess I'll go ahead and install nvidia-current, should be a fairly safe thing to do.
[20:54] <well_laid_lawn> puff: there's an x   nvidia-xconfig    and you won't have it untill you install it - synaptics should show a version
[20:58] <puff> well_laid_lawn: Searching for nvidia-xconfig doesn't get any results, but I installed nvidia-current and it looks like that had nvidia-settings as a dependency, and one of those two had nvidia-xconfig.
[20:59] <well_laid_lawn> ok
[21:14] <puff> Hm, it says here I'm supposed to just run nvidia-xconfig as root and then restart X.  Under ubuntu I'd kill/restart X by searching for gdm, but "ps -ef | fgrep -i gdm" isn't finding anything.
[21:14] <knome> puff, that's because xubuntu isn't running gdm
[21:15] <puff> Right, so... what *is* xubuntu running?
[21:15] <knome> lightdm
[21:17] <puff> Well, that's fun.
[21:18] <puff> So, "sudo service lightdm restart" gets me back to the login screen.  I login, I get a flash of the terminal, a flash of the NVIDIA splash graphic, then... back to the login screen.
[21:26] <TheSheep> puff: check the logs in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:34] <puff> TheSheep: doh, good point, thanks.
[22:46] <puff>  Lovely, "Segmentation fault at address (nil)"
[22:49] <holstein> puff: i would probably just look and see if there is an xorg.conf...
[22:52] <puff> holstein: darksleep.com/puff/nvidia_segfault.txt
[22:53] <puff> holstein: There is one.
[22:54] <puff> holstein: That URL has the all the details, just appended the xorg.conf to it (logged in through the virtual text terminals, can't use pastebin easily without a GUI).
[22:54] <holstein> !pastebin | puff maybe try pastebin
[22:55] <holstein> puff: O I C ...well, its not doing anything for me
[22:55] <puff> holstein: ? In what sense... no page there?
[22:55] <holstein> http://www.darksleep.com/puff/nvidia_segfault.txt nor others
[22:55] <holstein> puff: correct.. nothing is there
[22:56] <holstein> anyways, i would just specify a different driver.. or purge the nvidia one
[22:56] <puff> holstein: Sorry, typo in the name, fixed now.
[22:57] <holstein> i might just  change to vesa to get back in     Driver         "nvidia"
[22:57] <puff> holstein:  I can always uninstall nvidia-current and then  restore /etc/X11 from the backup I made before running nvidia-xconfig.  But that takes me back to square one, trying to get this external monitor to work.
[22:57] <puff> holstein: ?
[22:58] <holstein> puff: cool.. im just late to the party.. i read that you were segfaulting.. i didnt know you were not wanting to fix that, but rather just move on
[22:58] <puff> Sorry, didn't quite follow that... are you saying edit xorg.conf and change Driver "nvidia" to Driver "vesa"?
[22:58] <puff> holstein: I'm trying to get my thinkpad to drive my spiffy new monitor... it's been quite frustrating.
[22:58] <holstein> puff: i can tell you how i have my dual head on nvidia working.. with the proprietary driver and tool... generated an xorg
[22:58] <puff> holstein: Did you use the nvidia-current package, or download it from nvidia?
[22:59] <holstein> puff: i just used the one from the repos... not the "experimental" one
[22:59] <puff> The one from the repos... would that be package nvidia-current?
[23:00] <holstein> puff: i could look if you need.. its on another machine.. but that is what i recall, though i did it through the GUI
[23:00] <v1adimir> holstein: my worked with dual head, out-of-the-box with nvidia-current and nvidia-settings
[23:00] <v1adimir> *also
[23:00] <v1adimir> btw :)
[23:00] <holstein> v1adimir: just generated the xorg, and bob was your uncle? correct? ...nvidia-current?
[23:00] <puff> v1adimir: Lucky you :-)
[23:01]  * puff bangs his head against the keyboard.
[23:01] <v1adimir> puff: i DID have problems with it.. but then just installed with no extra drivers, just default
[23:01] <v1adimir> (actually one install worked when doing nvidia-current afterwards; no generating anything)
[23:02] <holstein> yup.. likewise... it wasnt a magical easy eperience at first. though the last install i just installed the package and ran the GUI and boom
[23:02] <puff> Interesting... tried editing xorg.conf and setting Driver "vesa", then "sudo service restart lightdm", but it got stuck on the boot terminal.
[23:02] <v1adimir> ^^ yeah, something like that
[23:02] <puff> "the GUI" would be...
[23:02] <puff> what?
[23:02] <holstein> puff: i would blow that xorg out, and use the gui tool
[23:02] <puff> holstein: Which GUI tool?
[23:02] <holstein> puff: the nvidia settings in the menu..
[23:03] <puff> Ah... actually, when I ran nvidia-settings, it told me to do "sudo nvidia-xconfig" to generate an xorg.conf.
[23:03] <holstein> puff: the one that comes with the driver.. from the repos. for configuring dual head or whatever
[23:03] <holstein> puff: sure.. this generated an xorg for me as well
[23:03] <v1adimir> .. with Quantal, it's in the Settings Manager: 'NVIDIA X Server Settings'
[23:03] <holstein> puff: the difference id say is, i got to see the settings working.. instead of running a shell command, and crossing my fingers
[23:03] <puff> Right... I ran nvidia-settings, it said "You don't appear to be using the nvida drivers.  Run "nvidia-xconfig" as root.
[23:03] <puff> And I did... and now X segfaults.
[23:04] <v1adimir> puff: did you try to install nvidia-current using Synaptic?
[23:04] <v1adimir> (which you should :))
[23:04] <puff> v1adimir: I installed nvidia-current using aptitude.
[23:04] <puff> v1adimir: Should be the same.
[23:04] <v1adimir> nah, skip the command line; perhaps try with Synaptic
[23:04] <puff> v1adimir: Sure, why not.
[23:04] <v1adimir> should be, but maybe it isn't :D
[23:05] <holstein> i would purge what you got puff , and just try the gui.. look in the menu for available drivers and try that way..
[23:05] <puff> To restor /etc/X11 should I just wholesale copy my backup of /etc/X11 over it?
[23:06] <holstein> puff: i would purge, and backup what you want... just remove or rename the xorg and get to a desktop
[23:06] <puff> Or just copy backup_etc_x11/xorg.conf over /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[23:08] <holstein> puff: i would just blow it out.. you dont need one if the driver is not there.. default xubuntu doesnt have one.. i would purge the driver and remove the xorg after backing up everything i need/want
[23:10] <puff> okay, now I'm back in, at 640 x 480, ugh.  Installing nvida-current via synatpic.
[23:12] <v1adimir> yeah it's better to cp as backup
[23:13] <puff> Okay, so synaptic is done, now what?
[23:13] <v1adimir> log out / back in (or reboot) ?? :)
[23:13] <v1adimir> run nvidia-settings
[23:13] <holstein> you gotta reboot for that
[23:14] <holstein> its a kernel module that requires a reboot AFAIK
[23:14] <puff> Okay, reboot then run nvidia-settings?
[23:14] <puff> Should I perhaps do "save current x configuration" in the nvidia-settings dialog, before rebooting?
[23:15] <holstein> puff: reboot... login.. click on nvidia settings in the menu... configure.. save xorg... reboot.. test
[23:15] <v1adimir> apply and Save to X configuration file from within
[23:15] <holstein> puff: i woudnt do *anything* automated
[23:15] <puff> It looks like my backup /etc/X11 doesn't even contain an xorg.conf, which makes no sense to me.
[23:15] <v1adimir> it's ok for first run after installing
[23:15] <puff> Okay, rebooting.
[23:16] <v1adimir> gl :D
[23:16] <holstein> it came with no xorg.conf out of the box.. and the ones you have havent been working.. so i wouldnt lose any sleep over the backups
[23:18] <puff> Okay, back up and running, much higher resolution this time, now running nvidia-settings.
[23:19] <puff> It does *not* give me the "you don't appear to be using nvidia drivers" popup this time.
[23:19] <holstein> puff: maybe that driver is not the driver for your device
[23:19] <holstein> i would refer to
[23:19] <holstein> !nvidia
[23:20] <puff> No, I think this is good... nvidia-settings is listing the new monitor, ec.
[23:20] <holstein> and make sure you are getting the driver that works with your card
[23:20] <holstein> puff: good luck.. i had that message when i was installing the incorrect driver
[23:20] <holstein> manually
[23:21] <puff> holstein: I think you misread what I said... this time it *doesn't* give me that message.  Which I think is a positive indicator.
[23:21] <holstein> puff: hehe.. i see the *not* now
[23:21] <holstein> puff: i was on the phone with someone and not wanting to be... back to full attention now
[23:22] <holstein> puff: all i did from there was get the desktop looking the way i wanted, and saved an xorg.conf
[23:22] <puff> Okay, so I click on the dell monitor box in the screen layout thing, select Configuration: twinview.
[23:22] <holstein> i did the one that didnt require a reboot
[23:23] <puff> Resolution is "auto", the screen layout thing says 1920x1200, while the built-in is 1920x1080.  Will that be a problem?  Should I manually set the dell's resolution to the same as the built-in?
[23:23] <v1adimir> puff: don't mess with the screen size and all that; just leave it default until everything is working first and then back all of that up
[23:23] <v1adimir> then you can dig into it =)
[23:23] <puff> Okay.
[23:24] <holstein> yeah. its a tweak-fest in there
[23:24] <v1adimir> mine's all default and it basically a 'problem' with just Flash in fullscreen and a couple of other things; don't think I'm ever even gonna bother configuring it :$
[23:27] <puff> Arhgh... and we're back to segfaulting.
[23:28] <puff> Sigh.
[23:28] <v1adimir> :\
[23:36] <holstein> puff: and you've tried the driver from nvidia site?
[23:39] <puff> Not yet.
[23:39] <puff> No, not from the site... I've heard that's riskeir.
[23:39] <puff> hm, there's a #nvidia...
[23:40] <holstein> puff: its literally the other option you have.. well one of 2.. but you wont like the other option
[23:40] <puff> one thought, maybe I should try it at 1920x1080.
[23:40] <puff> Heh.
[23:40] <holstein> puff: the first they will say in #nvidia is to use the driver from the site
[23:40] <puff> Okay, I don't see where in xorg.conf to change the 1920x1200 to 1920x1080... is there an easy way to do it from the command line, or should I blow away xconf.org?
[23:41] <holstein> puff: i would try a resolution that is simple. and works.. in the gui, so you know its possible
[23:41] <holstein> puff: i wouldnt make changes manually and expect them to boot
[23:41] <puff> So... delete xorg.conf?
[23:41] <holstein> puff: i would go to the nvida gui tool.ll set the resolution as i want and save the xorg.conf back
[23:41] <holstein> puff: if its borked, you can delete it
[23:42] <puff> I can't go to the GUI tool until I can get the GUI working...
[23:42] <puff> All I have at the moment is the command line.  Is it safe to delete xorg.conf?
[23:42] <holstein> puff: sure.. just undo whatever manual settings you put in that broke it.. or, remove the xorg and go back to the gui from the desktop... test the settings there.. save the xorg.conf
[23:43] <holstein> puff: i set my screen resolutions there in the gui.. saw them functioning.. then saved that to an xorg.conf that was safer to assume would boot
[23:43] <puff> holstein: I didn't *do* any manual settings, all I did was via nvidia-settings, which was just selecting the dell screen and changing "disabled" to "twinview".
[23:43] <puff> Okay, deleting xorg.conf and rebooting.
[23:47] <xubuntu711> #hello
[23:47] <xubuntu711> im installing now!
[23:47] <Unit193> Howdy.
[23:47] <xubuntu711> i clicked the click here thing
[23:47] <xubuntu711> and now i am here
[23:58] <puff> Sigh... okay, deleted xorg.conf, rebooted, ran nvidia-settings, selected explicitly 1920x1080, tried "Apply" (I didn't see a "test" button).  The laptop screen worked fine, but still no video signal on the dell monitor.  Just for giggles I tried it again with 1920x1200, same result, laptop screen worked fine but no signal on the dell monitor.
[23:59] <puff> Set it to 1920x1080 and saved to xorg.conf, rebooted.  Same result as before, login page displays but xserver segfaults.
[23:59] <mezzox> .