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pen_how long 12.04 will reveive bacports ?00:21
d_edpen_: April 201700:23
d_edIn theory anyway. In practice it will only be security updates after a while.00:24
pen_so no new kde versions00:25
frankkois there really no qt based rss reader with google reader sync?01:48
frankkoi feel dirty having to install a whole hoard of libs and dependencies just to get liferea ti make up for that deficiency01:49
frankkowhat am i missing if i get theese errors?: "CMake Error at akonadi_resource/CMakeLists.txt:41 (kcfg_generate_dbus_interface):" and "Unknown CMake command "kcfg_generate_dbus_interface"."02:22
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gerald_hi all02:41
gerald_has anyone got call of duty modern warfare 3 to work on well on wine 1.5? with a ati hd 3 or 4 xx card?02:43
luis_que onda hueyes03:38
frankkoanyone know how to make opera not use html5 video on youtube?03:44
asensiowhat is the best twitter client for kubuntu ?03:55
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DaZfrankko: probably disable it on youtube.com/html5 ? :v04:47
SixilAnyone know bash here?04:50
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duGood morning users! It´s nice to be omnline! Isn`t it?08:04
Smurphynot really ... Could still sleep some 4 hours or so :}08:05
duOh, dear poor at sleep Smurphy! :-))))08:07
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root-897754Hallo08:32
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duHallo root-897754!:-))))08:34
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john__hey my plasma desktop crashed ! N_N09:25
du Hey John_, call over xterm :syntax sudo dolphin, path /usr/bin/X11,file :plasma netbook .exe! Good Luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-|09:41
duBye, I have to go shopping now, see you later in net!!!!!!  :-(09:44
rosoftamarhello09:54
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invariantThe scrollbar of a GTK2 application is invisible until I hover over it. I want it to always be visible. How can that be accomplished?11:32
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Anubishi! how can i see the display name in kopete instead of account name?12:45
thechefIs there a PPA for the freshest vanilla kernel? I know one can use backports, but they are not bleeding edge and I have good experience with stable/LTS distributions in combination with latest kernels (even RC), but I'd love to have a PPA instead of compiling my own (the debian way)13:01
yofel_thechef: there are mailine builds in http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ but there's no automated respository that I know of13:02
thechefah13:03
thechefso the packages are there13:03
thechefjust no repos around it.. okay13:03
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BluesKajHowdy all13:28
SmurphyJo ..13:33
rolandhow do I set firefox as default browser? when I click on links in quassel, it tries to start rekonq, although I have uninstalled that13:54
rolandkubuntu 12.0413:54
lordievaderroland: See System Settings -> Default Application -> Web Browser.13:54
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rolandlordievader: thanks, that did it...13:56
BluesKajroland,  or firefox>edit>preferences>advanced13:56
rolandwhere can I change the applications that firefox uses to open downloaded files, currently it want's to open pdf files with gimp and "Open containing folder" starts k4dirstat.14:00
BluesKajroland,  you can the file associations by using the "open with"(right click dialog) option and choose "other" , then in the menu type okular and check the box beside "remember application association"14:08
rolandBluesKaj: when I click on the file in dolphin, it opens the correct application14:09
BluesKajroland,  you can change that in FF edit preferences applications tab14:12
rolandBluesKaj: doesn't work, changed to okular, restarted firefox, still open "import with gimp" window14:15
BluesKajroland,  did you see my post about the FF FF edit>preferences>?applications tab14:18
rolandBluesKaj: yes changed that in applications tab14:19
BluesKajclose FF and reopen it14:19
rolandBluesKaj: did it14:20
BluesKajthat's all I know about how to fix that14:21
BluesKajroland, ^14:21
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alsitnetpchallo, here all....16:21
alsitnetpcconnection all16:21
alsitnetpcinformation all......16:22
lordievaderHey alsitnetpc, how are you doing?16:22
alsitnetpcokay.....16:22
alsitnetpcgood bye....all....16:22
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cjaewill installing xbindkeys xautomation break the currently working logitech "extra keys" and what is enabling these working keys now?16:45
dracironBeen trying for a week now to get a friend going on Kubuntu w/o success. She needs the Nvidia96 driver16:53
dracironhowever short of installing Nvidia binary and having to reinstall every time the kernel is updated, a rather gruesome thing to  ask  a first time Linux user16:54
dracironI can't find a way to get those drivers working for her. Anybody have any ideas?16:54
shadeslayerthe driver should be automatically reinstalled whenever the kernel is updated16:55
shadeslayer!nvidia16:55
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto16:55
BluesKajdraciron, first are you sure that's correct driver for her card and which nvidia card is it16:56
BluesKajdraciron,?^16:56
dracironMostly,  the novoua is a disaster which leaves her low rez.  Nvidia curren leaves her with cursor issue16:57
dracironShe looked up her card and it showed nvidia 9616:57
dracironIt's an older emachine apparently.16:57
KatbuntuHi16:57
BluesKajyes but which card please , draciron?16:58
dracironAsking, one sec16:58
BluesKajdraciron, lspci | grep VGA16:58
dracironnvidia GeForce 4MX17:01
dracironHi Katbuntu17:05
KatbuntuHi draciron17:05
BluesKajyup draciron , I had to be sure , but that card needs the legacy drivers you mentioned and that ould be problematic. Make sure the install is up to date by updating and upgrading17:06
KatbuntuI use Nouveau and it's better than nvidia propietary drivers... And with a nvidia 9300m gs17:06
dracironIt's been updated, though new kernel update today she hasn't applied.17:07
BluesKajyes nouveau is really quite good nowadays , of course that depends on the card17:07
dracironproblematic is an understatement.17:07
dracironthe nouveau dumps her into low rez mode Katbuntu17:07
KatbuntuYep17:08
dracironIf she downgrades xorg she gets stuck in dependency hell.17:08
KatbuntuIronically I have more problems with restricted drivers, I'll never understand.17:08
BluesKajperhaps the kernel update will help if the modules for nouveau kernel module is updated as well17:09
dracironif she installs from Nvidia website every time there's a kernel update it'll wipe her out and this is her FIRST experience w/Linux.17:09
BluesKajdraciron, 12.10 ?17:09
dracironyep 12.1017:10
BluesKajwhat kind of pc specs ?17:10
Katbuntudraciron: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic17:10
dracironold eMachine17:10
KatbuntuIt's an issue with propietary drivers on Quantal17:10
dracironshe's already got headers  & srcinstalled.17:10
Katbuntuow17:10
dracironIf there's support on a different version can move her to that. I just had her install the LTS since that's what I use17:11
dracironand that way it'd be easier for me to help her.17:12
BluesKajlinux isn't magic , but if she has 1G RAM and and decent cpu , 12.10 should run17:12
dracironIt runs great, and aside from cursor issues and no OpenGL and other driver specific issues it runs great on her system.17:13
BluesKajthen there are other versions  that don't need fancier hardware like xubuntu etc17:13
dracironShe's a first time Linux user, KDE is by far best way for her to start w/Linux.17:14
cjaethats a matter of opinion17:15
dracironMaybe after she's grown to appreciate Linux she can try other desktop managers, though I wouldn't inflict unity on anyone lol17:15
dracironI've introduced dozens of people to Linux and the ones that stayed with it were almost all those who started w/KDE.17:15
dracironKDE lessons the learning curve considerably.17:16
BluesKajcjae, it's  a matter of what works for you , opinion doesn't matter17:16
cjaelol17:16
cjaewhat works for me is my opinion17:17
dracironThat allows them to explore linux w/o having to relearn keystrokes, etc.17:17
dracironIt's been me experience. I used to start lots of folks w/Gnome but had a very high failure rate w/folks who started w/Gnome.17:18
dracironThe UI was too different and the learning curve discouraged many.17:18
BluesKajit also depends on what their area of computer use and experience is with windows or mac which determines how easily ppl adjust to kubuntu17:18
quizno50I started my very non-technical wife with LXDE, she hated it; then I switched her to Unity when 12.04 came out, she loved it. (She hates using my Kubuntu Computer) So, I guess it really depends on the person.17:19
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cjaetwo desktops17:20
dracironTrue.  Though Unity seems like a serious pain, though win8 seems like a flat out theft of unity desktop17:21
cjaejust use kdm17:21
dracironreminds me anybody had any  experience getting around EFI?  I've got a new laptop I'm working on installing Kubuntu on but17:21
cjaei have it working with no errors17:21
dracironstruggling to get around the EFI so I can install17:22
quizno50draciron: I put Kubuntu on my MacBook a while back, and honestly: I couldn't get the EFI stuff working at all... I had to use the BIOS emulation17:22
cjaeand nautilus is transfering files better than dolphin right now, if you want gui transfers17:23
dracironThis is a new win8 machine. No bios emulation option :(17:23
dracironit's pure EFI, no bios support at all.17:23
dracironI use Krusader personally. Despise Dolphin.17:24
BluesKaji have np transferring files with dolphin ..woking well here17:24
dracironThat and good ole command line depending on what I'm doing.17:24
quizno50Ouch... Hmmm... Last I played with it; I was able to get a USB stick to boot using the EFI stuff, but it took a lot of trial and error, but this was also the MacBook, no clue about newer Win8 systems =(17:25
cjaeBluesKaj: your on 12.10 arent you17:25
dracironyeah no luck w/stick or USB DVD or DVD.17:25
dracironYep 12.1017:25
BluesKajcjae, yes17:25
cjaeBluesKaj: I think there is a problem on 12.04 with kio-slave17:26
dracironGot to be a way to do it, been cussing at it 2 days now lol. The lap top I'm typing on now is ancient.17:26
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BluesKajwas experimenting with 13.04 on another partition but the 3.7 kernel doesn't like my HW and the 3.5 alternative screws my graphics17:26
dracironNeed to upgrade before this one dies :(17:26
BluesKajcjae, drag and drop isn't working in some cases on 12.10 either ...tried copying some music file from a cd which used to work without k3b , but not anymore17:30
BluesKajerr some music files17:30
* cjae is upset about k3b17:31
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: HI17:31
BluesKajhi phoenix_firebrd17:32
dracironGuess it's time for plan B, SUSE :(17:37
BluesKajcjae, the latest upgrades must have fixed the drop and drag / copy and paste problem with kio-slave , just testing a cd and the copy and paste appears to be working now17:39
cjaecool17:39
phoenix_firebrddraciron: whats the problem?17:40
* dougl thinks the kubuntu install is the problem for draciron 17:41
cjaeholy sweet fudge is my external ever hot inside17:41
phoenix_firebrddougl: why so?17:41
douglphoenix_firebrd, sorry - I have no real insight but was wondering if there were install issues for draciron as kubuntu intalls since 12.04 were like root canals for me on my hardware.17:43
cjaemust be good for life of device17:43
phoenix_firebrddougl: Do you have a problem during installation?17:47
phoenix_firebrddougl: wifi?17:47
douglyes - used netbootin or something to get it installed.17:49
phoenix_firebrddougl: netbootin ? why?17:51
cjaeBluesKaj: which cd?17:51
phoenix_firebrddougl: tried to install from a usb?17:51
BluesKaja burned cd with wav files, cjae17:52
cjaeBluesKaj: sorry, was the update on17:59
cjaewhich version of kde had the kio fix?18:06
dracironKubuntu on the driver issue or the EFI?18:09
phoenix_firebrddraciron: EFI?18:09
phoenix_firebrddraciron: windows EFI?18:10
dracironYeah it's a new win8 laptop and can't get into bios.18:10
dracironYep winEFI18:10
dracironCan't get it to boot into install media, either USB or DVD.18:10
phoenix_firebrddraciron: are you using a wireless keyboard?18:11
dracironI've got no qualms about installing Ubuntu then installing KDE post install, but LTS a big deal to me.18:11
dracironNope, but wireless trackball.18:11
phoenix_firebrddraciron: so wired keyboard?18:11
dracironyep, it's a laptop, using laptop KB.18:12
phoenix_firebrddraciron: Did you read the manual to know which to access bios options18:12
dracironNo bios options, have to boot into windoze to get to psudo bios, then select a temp boot order option, but when I do18:13
dracironget err msg no device I think it is.18:13
dracironone sec will power up and replicate.18:13
phoenix_firebrddraciron: did you try f12 key or f10 during boot?18:14
phoenix_firebrddraciron: tell me your laptop company name and  model number18:15
farisAnybody using acer timeline series?18:15
dracironYep, those options no longer exist as that style bios has been eliminated.18:16
BluesKajfaris, what's your issue , asking about specific pc's doesn.t help us help you18:17
dracironI get a system dowen't have any USB boot option. Please select other boot option in boot manager menu18:17
farisi got the battery not detecting my system18:17
farisim a newbie18:17
dracironSpent quite few hrs with Toshiba tech support before I got that far.18:18
dracironWelcome to Linux faris18:18
BluesKajdraciron, yeah , lots of oder pcs won't boot from a usb stick18:18
phoenix_firebrddraciron: so thats toshiba , whats the model?18:18
BluesKajolder18:18
dracironThis is brand new BluesKaj18:18
farisi tried many methods found in differnt forum to fix issue with my battery not detecting ...none was working for me18:18
BluesKajdraciron, ok ...bummer :P18:19
faristhanks dracion18:19
dracironSatillite c855-s530618:19
phoenix_firebrddraciron: googling18:19
dracironOne of these new win8 abominations.18:20
dracironAlready tried that, model too new.18:20
dracironThe older methods of accessing bios don't work.18:20
phoenix_firebrddraciron: Do you mean the secure boot issue?18:20
dracironThat's what took hrs w/Toshiba tech support and I called them AFTER failing all the googled methods.18:20
dracironAye, secure boot.18:21
dracironCan't get around win8's strangle hold on bios.18:21
dracironwell technically it's no longer bios but the new efi equiv.18:21
phoenix_firebrddraciron: have you tried super grub?18:22
dracironsuper grub?18:22
dracironThere's a new version of grub?18:22
phoenix_firebrddraciron: no it has been there for long18:23
dracironThough I'm not even getting that far. Can't even get it to see the media.18:23
phoenix_firebrddraciron: Using it you can boot to any linux installs , thats includes your usb too18:23
phoenix_firebrddraciron: Ubuntu has a solution for the secure boot, new grub version solves this problem18:24
dracironI've got media built, but can't get too it. can't get around the secure boot critter.18:24
dracironSo no chance of using LTS? :(18:25
phoenix_firebrddraciron: Does the laptop has a dvd drive and can it bbot from a dvd?18:25
phoenix_firebrddraciron: Yes using super grub18:25
dracironHas a DVD, not sure if it can boot from it.18:25
dracironThough DVD was burned w/normal install from Kubuntu download site..18:26
phoenix_firebrddraciron: If you have no problem , try the super grub18:26
dracironDVD worked fine doing wipe and load on this machine, but no boot from new laptop. Googling super grub.18:27
phoenix_firebrddraciron: Download the super grub image and burn it to  the dvd. Have the bootable Usb image inserted , boot using the super grub and boot into the usb18:28
phoenix_firebrddraciron: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/18:28
phoenix_firebrdbrb18:30
dracironCould only find the rescutux image, downloaded that.18:37
phoenix_firebrdi am back18:37
dracironnvm found supergrub18:38
robertoSalve a Tutti nessun Italiano?18:38
phoenix_firebrd!italian18:41
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)18:41
dracironFound part of the problem. Was using 32 bit ISO which does not detect UEFI18:44
BluesKajwell, stuff to do ..later folks18:49
FloodBotK1!netsplit18:56
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit18:56
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phoenix_firebrddraciron: solved?19:11
dracironNot sure, supergrub image did not dl properly, need to re DL that.19:12
dracironCreating 64 boot image on usb stick19:13
genii-aroundHm19:19
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frankkohow do manage multiple displays in kubuntu?20:06
douglfrankko, nvidia video card?20:06
frankkono intel20:07
douglintel with dual outputs?20:09
roberto__salve a tutti20:17
dougl?20:18
bazhang Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)  roberto__20:18
douglthot it was portugese20:18
duHello users, I` m back in net! :-)))) Hey John_, do you  have solved your problem with your plasma desktop??????????????????????????????????????? :-]20:32
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CatbuntuHey22:03
duHey Catbuntu, how are you?22:09
lordievaderHey Catbuntu, Catbuntu and Katbuntu is one and the same, right?22:11
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duHey lordievader, that` s not the same! Attention, because of syntax cat and kat! :-|22:21
lordievaderdu: I know, but since these nicks are very much alike it is probable that the person behind it is also one and the same.22:22
duHey lordievader, it` a cat patchwork unbuntu family! :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))22:28
duBye, users! It was nice to be online and now leave you until tomorrow! :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!22:36
lordievaderThat was one large smiley.22:38
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