[00:21] <pen_> how long 12.04 will reveive bacports ?
[00:23] <d_ed> pen_: April 2017
[00:24] <d_ed> In theory anyway. In practice it will only be security updates after a while.
[00:25] <pen_> so no new kde versions
[01:48] <frankko> is there really no qt based rss reader with google reader sync?
[01:49] <frankko> i feel dirty having to install a whole hoard of libs and dependencies just to get liferea ti make up for that deficiency
[02:22] <frankko> what am i missing if i get theese errors?: "CMake Error at akonadi_resource/CMakeLists.txt:41 (kcfg_generate_dbus_interface):" and "Unknown CMake command "kcfg_generate_dbus_interface"."
[02:41] <gerald_> hi all
[02:43] <gerald_> has anyone got call of duty modern warfare 3 to work on well on wine 1.5? with a ati hd 3 or 4 xx card?
[03:38] <luis_> que onda hueyes
[03:44] <frankko> anyone know how to make opera not use html5 video on youtube?
[03:55] <asensio> what is the best twitter client for kubuntu ?
[04:47] <DaZ> frankko: probably disable it on youtube.com/html5 ? :v
[04:50] <Sixil> Anyone know bash here?
[08:04] <du> Good morning users! It´s nice to be omnline! Isn`t it?
[08:05] <Smurphy> not really ... Could still sleep some 4 hours or so :}
[08:07] <du> Oh, dear poor at sleep Smurphy! :-))))
[08:32] <root-897754> Hallo
[08:34] <du> Hallo root-897754!:-))))
[09:25] <john__> hey my plasma desktop crashed ! N_N
[09:41] <du>  Hey John_, call over xterm :syntax sudo dolphin, path /usr/bin/X11,file :plasma netbook .exe! Good Luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-|
[09:44] <du> Bye, I have to go shopping now, see you later in net!!!!!!  :-(
[09:54] <rosoftamar> hello
[11:32] <invariant> The scrollbar of a GTK2 application is invisible until I hover over it. I want it to always be visible. How can that be accomplished?
[12:45] <Anubis> hi! how can i see the display name in kopete instead of account name?
[13:01] <thechef> Is there a PPA for the freshest vanilla kernel? I know one can use backports, but they are not bleeding edge and I have good experience with stable/LTS distributions in combination with latest kernels (even RC), but I'd love to have a PPA instead of compiling my own (the debian way)
[13:02] <yofel_> thechef: there are mailine builds in http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ but there's no automated respository that I know of
[13:03] <thechef> ah
[13:03] <thechef> so the packages are there
[13:03] <thechef> just no repos around it.. okay
[13:28] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:33] <Smurphy> Jo ..
[13:54] <roland> how do I set firefox as default browser? when I click on links in quassel, it tries to start rekonq, although I have uninstalled that
[13:54] <roland> kubuntu 12.04
[13:54] <lordievader> roland: See System Settings -> Default Application -> Web Browser.
[13:56] <roland> lordievader: thanks, that did it...
[13:56] <BluesKaj> roland,  or firefox>edit>preferences>advanced
[14:00] <roland> where can I change the applications that firefox uses to open downloaded files, currently it want's to open pdf files with gimp and "Open containing folder" starts k4dirstat.
[14:08] <BluesKaj> roland,  you can the file associations by using the "open with"(right click dialog) option and choose "other" , then in the menu type okular and check the box beside "remember application association"
[14:09] <roland> BluesKaj: when I click on the file in dolphin, it opens the correct application
[14:12] <BluesKaj> roland,  you can change that in FF edit preferences applications tab
[14:15] <roland> BluesKaj: doesn't work, changed to okular, restarted firefox, still open "import with gimp" window
[14:18] <BluesKaj> roland,  did you see my post about the FF FF edit>preferences>?applications tab
[14:19] <roland> BluesKaj: yes changed that in applications tab
[14:19] <BluesKaj> close FF and reopen it
[14:20] <roland> BluesKaj: did it
[14:21] <BluesKaj> that's all I know about how to fix that
[14:21] <BluesKaj> roland, ^
[16:21] <alsitnetpc> hallo, here all....
[16:21] <alsitnetpc> connection all
[16:22] <alsitnetpc> information all......
[16:22] <lordievader> Hey alsitnetpc, how are you doing?
[16:22] <alsitnetpc> okay.....
[16:22] <alsitnetpc> good bye....all....
[16:45] <cjae> will installing xbindkeys xautomation break the currently working logitech "extra keys" and what is enabling these working keys now?
[16:53] <draciron> Been trying for a week now to get a friend going on Kubuntu w/o success. She needs the Nvidia96 driver
[16:54] <draciron> however short of installing Nvidia binary and having to reinstall every time the kernel is updated, a rather gruesome thing to  ask  a first time Linux user
[16:54] <draciron> I can't find a way to get those drivers working for her. Anybody have any ideas?
[16:55] <shadeslayer> the driver should be automatically reinstalled whenever the kernel is updated
[16:55] <shadeslayer> !nvidia
[16:56] <BluesKaj> draciron, first are you sure that's correct driver for her card and which nvidia card is it
[16:56] <BluesKaj> draciron,?^
[16:57] <draciron> Mostly,  the novoua is a disaster which leaves her low rez.  Nvidia curren leaves her with cursor issue
[16:57] <draciron> She looked up her card and it showed nvidia 96
[16:57] <draciron> It's an older emachine apparently.
[16:57] <Katbuntu> Hi
[16:58] <BluesKaj> yes but which card please , draciron?
[16:58] <draciron> Asking, one sec
[16:58] <BluesKaj> draciron, lspci | grep VGA
[17:01] <draciron> nvidia GeForce 4MX
[17:05] <draciron> Hi Katbuntu
[17:05] <Katbuntu> Hi draciron
[17:06] <BluesKaj> yup draciron , I had to be sure , but that card needs the legacy drivers you mentioned and that ould be problematic. Make sure the install is up to date by updating and upgrading
[17:06] <Katbuntu> I use Nouveau and it's better than nvidia propietary drivers... And with a nvidia 9300m gs
[17:07] <draciron> It's been updated, though new kernel update today she hasn't applied.
[17:07] <BluesKaj> yes nouveau is really quite good nowadays , of course that depends on the card
[17:07] <draciron> problematic is an understatement.
[17:07] <draciron> the nouveau dumps her into low rez mode Katbuntu
[17:08] <Katbuntu> Yep
[17:08] <draciron> If she downgrades xorg she gets stuck in dependency hell.
[17:08] <Katbuntu> Ironically I have more problems with restricted drivers, I'll never understand.
[17:09] <BluesKaj> perhaps the kernel update will help if the modules for nouveau kernel module is updated as well
[17:09] <draciron> if she installs from Nvidia website every time there's a kernel update it'll wipe her out and this is her FIRST experience w/Linux.
[17:09] <BluesKaj> draciron, 12.10 ?
[17:10] <draciron> yep 12.10
[17:10] <BluesKaj> what kind of pc specs ?
[17:10] <Katbuntu> draciron: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[17:10] <draciron> old eMachine
[17:10] <Katbuntu> It's an issue with propietary drivers on Quantal
[17:10] <draciron> she's already got headers  & srcinstalled.
[17:10] <Katbuntu> ow
[17:11] <draciron> If there's support on a different version can move her to that. I just had her install the LTS since that's what I use
[17:12] <draciron> and that way it'd be easier for me to help her.
[17:12] <BluesKaj> linux isn't magic , but if she has 1G RAM and and decent cpu , 12.10 should run
[17:13] <draciron> It runs great, and aside from cursor issues and no OpenGL and other driver specific issues it runs great on her system.
[17:13] <BluesKaj> then there are other versions  that don't need fancier hardware like xubuntu etc
[17:14] <draciron> She's a first time Linux user, KDE is by far best way for her to start w/Linux.
[17:15] <cjae> thats a matter of opinion
[17:15] <draciron> Maybe after she's grown to appreciate Linux she can try other desktop managers, though I wouldn't inflict unity on anyone lol
[17:15] <draciron> I've introduced dozens of people to Linux and the ones that stayed with it were almost all those who started w/KDE.
[17:16] <draciron> KDE lessons the learning curve considerably.
[17:16] <BluesKaj> cjae, it's  a matter of what works for you , opinion doesn't matter
[17:16] <cjae> lol
[17:17] <cjae> what works for me is my opinion
[17:17] <draciron> That allows them to explore linux w/o having to relearn keystrokes, etc.
[17:18] <draciron> It's been me experience. I used to start lots of folks w/Gnome but had a very high failure rate w/folks who started w/Gnome.
[17:18] <draciron> The UI was too different and the learning curve discouraged many.
[17:18] <BluesKaj> it also depends on what their area of computer use and experience is with windows or mac which determines how easily ppl adjust to kubuntu
[17:19] <quizno50> I started my very non-technical wife with LXDE, she hated it; then I switched her to Unity when 12.04 came out, she loved it. (She hates using my Kubuntu Computer) So, I guess it really depends on the person.
[17:20] <cjae> two desktops
[17:21] <draciron> True.  Though Unity seems like a serious pain, though win8 seems like a flat out theft of unity desktop
[17:21] <cjae> just use kdm
[17:21] <draciron> reminds me anybody had any  experience getting around EFI?  I've got a new laptop I'm working on installing Kubuntu on but
[17:21] <cjae> i have it working with no errors
[17:22] <draciron> struggling to get around the EFI so I can install
[17:22] <quizno50> draciron: I put Kubuntu on my MacBook a while back, and honestly: I couldn't get the EFI stuff working at all... I had to use the BIOS emulation
[17:23] <cjae> and nautilus is transfering files better than dolphin right now, if you want gui transfers
[17:23] <draciron> This is a new win8 machine. No bios emulation option :(
[17:23] <draciron> it's pure EFI, no bios support at all.
[17:24] <draciron> I use Krusader personally. Despise Dolphin.
[17:24] <BluesKaj> i have np transferring files with dolphin ..woking well here
[17:24] <draciron> That and good ole command line depending on what I'm doing.
[17:25] <quizno50> Ouch... Hmmm... Last I played with it; I was able to get a USB stick to boot using the EFI stuff, but it took a lot of trial and error, but this was also the MacBook, no clue about newer Win8 systems =(
[17:25] <cjae> BluesKaj: your on 12.10 arent you
[17:25] <draciron> yeah no luck w/stick or USB DVD or DVD.
[17:25] <draciron> Yep 12.10
[17:25] <BluesKaj> cjae, yes
[17:26] <cjae> BluesKaj: I think there is a problem on 12.04 with kio-slave
[17:26] <draciron> Got to be a way to do it, been cussing at it 2 days now lol. The lap top I'm typing on now is ancient.
[17:26] <BluesKaj> was experimenting with 13.04 on another partition but the 3.7 kernel doesn't like my HW and the 3.5 alternative screws my graphics
[17:26] <draciron> Need to upgrade before this one dies :(
[17:30] <BluesKaj> cjae, drag and drop isn't working in some cases on 12.10 either ...tried copying some music file from a cd which used to work without k3b , but not anymore
[17:30] <BluesKaj> err some music files
[17:31]  * cjae is upset about k3b
[17:31] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: HI
[17:32] <BluesKaj> hi phoenix_firebrd
[17:37] <draciron> Guess it's time for plan B, SUSE :(
[17:39] <BluesKaj> cjae, the latest upgrades must have fixed the drop and drag / copy and paste problem with kio-slave , just testing a cd and the copy and paste appears to be working now
[17:39] <cjae> cool
[17:40] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: whats the problem?
[17:41]  * dougl thinks the kubuntu install is the problem for draciron 
[17:41] <cjae> holy sweet fudge is my external ever hot inside
[17:41] <phoenix_firebrd> dougl: why so?
[17:43] <dougl> phoenix_firebrd, sorry - I have no real insight but was wondering if there were install issues for draciron as kubuntu intalls since 12.04 were like root canals for me on my hardware.
[17:43] <cjae> must be good for life of device
[17:47] <phoenix_firebrd> dougl: Do you have a problem during installation?
[17:47] <phoenix_firebrd> dougl: wifi?
[17:49] <dougl> yes - used netbootin or something to get it installed.
[17:51] <phoenix_firebrd> dougl: netbootin ? why?
[17:51] <cjae> BluesKaj: which cd?
[17:51] <phoenix_firebrd> dougl: tried to install from a usb?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> a burned cd with wav files, cjae
[17:59] <cjae> BluesKaj: sorry, was the update on
[18:06] <cjae> which version of kde had the kio fix?
[18:09] <draciron> Kubuntu on the driver issue or the EFI?
[18:09] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: EFI?
[18:10] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: windows EFI?
[18:10] <draciron> Yeah it's a new win8 laptop and can't get into bios.
[18:10] <draciron> Yep winEFI
[18:10] <draciron> Can't get it to boot into install media, either USB or DVD.
[18:11] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: are you using a wireless keyboard?
[18:11] <draciron> I've got no qualms about installing Ubuntu then installing KDE post install, but LTS a big deal to me.
[18:11] <draciron> Nope, but wireless trackball.
[18:11] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: so wired keyboard?
[18:12] <draciron> yep, it's a laptop, using laptop KB.
[18:12] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: Did you read the manual to know which to access bios options
[18:13] <draciron> No bios options, have to boot into windoze to get to psudo bios, then select a temp boot order option, but when I do
[18:13] <draciron> get err msg no device I think it is.
[18:13] <draciron> one sec will power up and replicate.
[18:14] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: did you try f12 key or f10 during boot?
[18:15] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: tell me your laptop company name and  model number
[18:15] <faris> Anybody using acer timeline series?
[18:16] <draciron> Yep, those options no longer exist as that style bios has been eliminated.
[18:17] <BluesKaj> faris, what's your issue , asking about specific pc's doesn.t help us help you
[18:17] <draciron> I get a system dowen't have any USB boot option. Please select other boot option in boot manager menu
[18:17] <faris> i got the battery not detecting my system
[18:17] <faris> im a newbie
[18:18] <draciron> Spent quite few hrs with Toshiba tech support before I got that far.
[18:18] <draciron> Welcome to Linux faris
[18:18] <BluesKaj> draciron, yeah , lots of oder pcs won't boot from a usb stick
[18:18] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: so thats toshiba , whats the model?
[18:18] <BluesKaj> older
[18:18] <draciron> This is brand new BluesKaj
[18:18] <faris> i tried many methods found in differnt forum to fix issue with my battery not detecting ...none was working for me
[18:19] <BluesKaj> draciron, ok ...bummer :P
[18:19] <faris> thanks dracion
[18:19] <draciron> Satillite c855-s5306
[18:19] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: googling
[18:20] <draciron> One of these new win8 abominations.
[18:20] <draciron> Already tried that, model too new.
[18:20] <draciron> The older methods of accessing bios don't work.
[18:20] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: Do you mean the secure boot issue?
[18:20] <draciron> That's what took hrs w/Toshiba tech support and I called them AFTER failing all the googled methods.
[18:21] <draciron> Aye, secure boot.
[18:21] <draciron> Can't get around win8's strangle hold on bios.
[18:21] <draciron> well technically it's no longer bios but the new efi equiv.
[18:22] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: have you tried super grub?
[18:22] <draciron> super grub?
[18:22] <draciron> There's a new version of grub?
[18:23] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: no it has been there for long
[18:23] <draciron> Though I'm not even getting that far. Can't even get it to see the media.
[18:23] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: Using it you can boot to any linux installs , thats includes your usb too
[18:24] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: Ubuntu has a solution for the secure boot, new grub version solves this problem
[18:24] <draciron> I've got media built, but can't get too it. can't get around the secure boot critter.
[18:25] <draciron> So no chance of using LTS? :(
[18:25] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: Does the laptop has a dvd drive and can it bbot from a dvd?
[18:25] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: Yes using super grub
[18:25] <draciron> Has a DVD, not sure if it can boot from it.
[18:26] <draciron> Though DVD was burned w/normal install from Kubuntu download site..
[18:26] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: If you have no problem , try the super grub
[18:27] <draciron> DVD worked fine doing wipe and load on this machine, but no boot from new laptop. Googling super grub.
[18:28] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: Download the super grub image and burn it to  the dvd. Have the bootable Usb image inserted , boot using the super grub and boot into the usb
[18:28] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[18:30] <phoenix_firebrd> brb
[18:37] <draciron> Could only find the rescutux image, downloaded that.
[18:37] <phoenix_firebrd> i am back
[18:38] <draciron> nvm found supergrub
[18:38] <roberto> Salve a Tutti nessun Italiano?
[18:41] <phoenix_firebrd> !italian
[18:44] <draciron> Found part of the problem. Was using 32 bit ISO which does not detect UEFI
[18:49] <BluesKaj> well, stuff to do ..later folks
[18:56] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[19:11] <phoenix_firebrd> draciron: solved?
[19:12] <draciron> Not sure, supergrub image did not dl properly, need to re DL that.
[19:13] <draciron> Creating 64 boot image on usb stick
[19:19] <genii-around> Hm
[20:06] <frankko> how do manage multiple displays in kubuntu?
[20:06] <dougl> frankko, nvidia video card?
[20:07] <frankko> no intel
[20:09] <dougl> intel with dual outputs?
[20:17] <roberto__> salve a tutti
[20:18] <dougl> ?
[20:18] <bazhang>  Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)  roberto__
[20:18] <dougl> thot it was portugese
[20:32] <du> Hello users, I` m back in net! :-)))) Hey John_, do you  have solved your problem with your plasma desktop??????????????????????????????????????? :-]
[22:03] <Catbuntu> Hey
[22:09] <du> Hey Catbuntu, how are you?
[22:11] <lordievader> Hey Catbuntu, Catbuntu and Katbuntu is one and the same, right?
[22:21] <du> Hey lordievader, that` s not the same! Attention, because of syntax cat and kat! :-|
[22:22] <lordievader> du: I know, but since these nicks are very much alike it is probable that the person behind it is also one and the same.
[22:28] <du> Hey lordievader, it` a cat patchwork unbuntu family! :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))
[22:36] <du> Bye, users! It was nice to be online and now leave you until tomorrow! :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:38] <lordievader> That was one large smiley.