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IdleOne!lmgtfy > bindir00:44
ubottuIdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()00:48
ubottuIn #ubuntu, BinaryCrystal said: ubottu: okay, i'm ok with distros, but IRC is a bit meh to me (not used to it)03:46
IdleOne!guidelines > AlexWebr04:05
ikoniahello shvelo11:55
shveloikonia, hello11:55
ikoniahow can we help you today ?11:55
shveloI wanted to register #ubuntu-ge but it seems to be registered to freenode-staff11:55
ikoniayes, it's already registered11:56
ikoniaso you don't need to register it11:56
ikoniait's got an ubuntu log bot in there11:57
shvelook11:59
shvelothanks12:00
ikoniano problem12:00
shvelowho is the OP?12:00
ikoniacurrently no ops12:01
ikoniaI guess because it's not active12:01
ikoniait's a loco channel I think12:01
ikonia(unless you think it's someting else)12:01
DJonesLooks like its the Ubuntu Georgian loco looking at the !ge factoid12:01
ikoniathere we go12:02
shveloyea but I Ubuntu Georgia didn't have any Wiki page or Launchpad team, I've just created them12:03
shveloI didn't know if it existed12:03
AlanBellall the iso country codes were registered12:03
shveloah12:03
shvelocan I claim it?12:03
ikoniado you need to ?12:04
ikoniaare you part of the loco ?12:04
ikoniahave you started a loco ?12:04
shveloI'm starting it12:04
ikoniaok, so the channel is registerd12:04
ikoniawhat's the issue ?12:04
ikoniamake the loco, start using the channel12:04
shvelook12:04
AlanBellstaff can UbuntuIrcCouncil have founder to #ubuntu-ge please12:06
Tm_Thttp://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gruusia12:14
shveloanything new? I was off12:32
elkyno12:32
ikoniais there anything more you actually need or want from us ?12:35
shvelono12:35
ikoniaok, so what "new" information are you looking for ?12:35
ikonia(or expecting)12:36
shvelojust asking12:36
ikoniaok, so you have everything you need, you want no more information, that should be it ?12:36
shveloyea12:37
ikoniaok, so good luck setting up the loco, there is a good page on the wiki that details how to do it, along with loco setup support information12:37
shvelothanks12:38
shvelobye12:38
Tm_T@mark #ubuntu-server FauxFaux ragequit with bad language13:05
Tm_Tubottu: ping13:06
ubottupong!13:06
PiciI'm *this* close to muting phix14:08
ikoniaI'm closer to just ban him14:08
ikoniahe's always like this14:09
ikoniait's not the first time14:09
phixIdleOne: .....14:13
phixikonia: even14:13
ikoniaphix: come back another time - I'm not interested in discussing this now14:14
phixI dont want to discuss anything, just unban me14:14
phixI was providing support14:14
ikoniano14:14
ikoniawe'll discuss in 24 hours14:14
PiciYou've had more than enough warnings to stop with the misinformation, take a break.14:15
phixmis information?14:15
phixI admitted I was wrong with skype not being supported14:15
phixbut saying that asterisk is a better solution is not missinformation14:15
phixit is correct14:15
Piciphix: they are for different things.14:15
phixyou can get a skype plugin for asterisk if you really need skype support14:16
phixthey are not though14:16
PiciA USER who wants skype does not want asterisk14:16
phixthey are for talking and video conferencing14:16
phixA USER who thinks they want skype actually needs asterisk14:16
phixany way14:16
PiciNo.14:16
phixI didnt come here to argue that point14:16
PiciWell, you're not getting unbanned right now.14:17
phixI came here to ask if I can continue to help support ubuntu users with my knowledge14:17
phixok, if you want to deprive your support channel of a helper that's fine with me14:17
ikoniagreat14:17
ikoniabye14:17
phixcya14:18
ikonia please /part the channel14:18
phixoh14:19
ikoniathanks14:19
phixI was just waiting 24hrs til I am allowed back in14:19
ikonia /part and come back in 24 hours and we can discuss it then14:19
phixhmmmm14:19
phixok14:19
phixbye14:19
ikoniabye14:20
Pici@mark phix #ubuntu-ops14:20
ubottuThe operation succeeded.14:20
usr13_bazhang: Are you here?15:07
IdleOneHow can I help you usr13_ ?15:08
usr13_IdleOne: I would like to discuss with you the term "shell"15:08
usr13_Please define what might be your definition.15:08
IdleOneThis channel is for resolution of bans primarily in #ubuntu15:09
IdleOneYou might try asking in ##linux what the definition of "shell" is.15:09
usr13_Yes, and you have banned me from #ubuntu for discussing the option of using a root "shell"15:09
usr13_If that is not to be discussed on #ubuntu or not?  Or ...?15:10
IdleOneactually, no. You were banned because you "rage quit" the channel when I asked you to stop talking about using root/sudo15:10
usr13_Oh ok... Well I was leaving anyway.  I was going to bed.15:11
IdleOneright, every time I leave a room I make sure to yell at everybody in it also.15:11
usr13_At any rate, I don't think I deserve to be banned.15:11
IdleOneI don't think you understand why you were banned.15:11
usr13_It was you, not everone.15:12
usr13_Ok, then explain.15:12
IdleOneThe bad attitude you displayed is not very family friendly and is not what the Ubuntu community considers proper behaviour in our channels.15:12
usr13_Ok15:12
usr13_fair enough.15:12
usr13_I agree with that type of stance.15:13
IdleOneThat is good. I'm going to have the bot send you a couple of links, please read them so that we don't have further issues15:13
IdleOne!guidelines15:13
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines15:13
IdleOne!codeofconduct15:13
ubottuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct  | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv15:13
usr13_Ok15:13
usr13_(I've read them before, but will read again.15:14
IdleOneWhen you are done let me know if you agree to follow those guidelines and I will be happy to remove the ban in #ubuntu. Know that if there are future issues it will be more difficult to resolve.15:16
IdleOneAs for the root/sudo topic. I agree with you  on some of it but #ubuntu supports using sudo or sudo -i for extended root shell. Please try to assist in the Ubuntu way while you are in #ubuntu.15:19
usr13_"err, learn, and err less in future"15:19
IdleOnesorry?15:20
usr13_... just quoting from http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct15:20
usr13_That one I had yet to read....15:20
usr13_But when I came here, I asked to define "root shell" BECAUSE, I certainly do not believe someone should login to an Xsession as root, and so if that is what is commonly refered to as a root shell then I am quite wrong to state that that is ok, because I do not believe that it is), BUT I do not understand an Xsession as being refered to a "root shell".15:23
usr13_That is my question.....   When someone says "root shell", are they refering to Xsession?15:24
IdleOneWell, I am not the person to define what a root shell is, besides that is beyond the scope of this channel.15:24
usr13_Because, I have in the passed seen people refer to "gnome shell".  So.....15:24
IdleOneYou are welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss it there. We have plenty of pretty smart people who I am sure would be glad to explain it.15:25
usr13_Ok, well not important. I dont use either of those terms because it's too ambigious.15:26
IdleOneBack to this ban thing. Can you agree to follow the guidelines?15:26
usr13_Yes15:26
IdleOneban has been removed. thanks for understanding and have a great day.15:26
usr13_THe main thing I want to see is an open and honest exchange of Linux expertise and knowledge.15:27
usr13_Ok.15:27
IdleOneMake sure you don't forget to part this channel.15:27
usr13_Ok.  Leaving now.  But, do not think that I meant any malice to you or anyone else, because I really didn't, and I dont.  Ok>?15:29
IdleOneWe don't.15:29
usr13_Ok, fair enough.  THank you.15:30
IdleOneThank you.15:30
usr13IdleOne: Are you here?16:01
usr13seeing:  "Cannot join to channel #ubuntu (You are banned)16:01
usr13Anyone?16:02
usr1374.113.247.233   #My IP.16:03
usr13I think someone may have banned the IP?16:04
IdleOnegive me a moment16:05
usr13Ok16:05
IdleOnetry now16:07
usr13Ok, you fixed it.16:07
IdleOneMake sure you don't forget to part this channel.16:08
usr13IdleOne: BTW, those two documents are very well written....16:08
usr13Ok.  C u later.16:09
ubottuSlart called the ops in #ubuntu (ololo)17:31
DJones@comment 52485 Posting links to pornography17:35
bazhangklined I believe17:36
bazhangif idoru's kill include kline17:36
bazhang<wtfnotacceptable> Sach, Canonical and others think almost daily updates are acceptable, they are not, and they don't test those updates18:15
bazhangaugh18:15
bazhangand now the details come.18:23
bazhangwharglb, hi18:27
wharglbHi, why am I being redirected here?18:28
wharglbIs it because I'm gay?18:33
wharglbDo you have something against gay people in #ubuntu ?18:33
bazhangwharglb, uh what?18:34
IdleOneNo it has nothing to do with your sexual preferences, but you will remain banned.18:34
wharglbI asked a question pertaining to Ubuntu's Firefox package and why it doesn't work on bad-dragon.com, the site from which I buy my dildos.18:34
zeehey18:34
zeewhy did I just get redirected here18:34
wharglbYour default Firefox package does not work with this site's shoopping cart.18:34
bazhangperhaps just change the bf to straight +b18:34
zeewharglb: what is the site in question18:35
zeeI have been experiencing issues with shopping carts too18:35
wharglbI already told them bad-dragon.com18:35
zeeinteresting18:35
zeeI were facing issues with this site too18:35
IdleOneCould you both please part this channel now.18:35
zeeam I not allowed here?18:36
zeeDo you have issues with me being here IdleOne?18:36
wharglbNo, this is a legitimate problem.18:36
zeeindeed18:36
wharglbDo you think we're joking? It's not a joke, we can't buy our entertainment using Ubuntu.18:36
IdleOnezee: Do you have a reason for being here?18:36
zeeI were redirected here18:36
wharglbI do. I was banned for no reason at all, for asking a legitimate question!18:37
IdleOneok, give me a moment18:37
wharglbAnyway I have to leave now. Good bye.18:37
IdleOnewharglb: your ban will not be removed, you can go now.18:37
IdleOnezee: there doesn't appear to be a ban set on you that would forward you here.18:38
IdleOneI can only jump to the conclusion that you joined to help your friend troll us.18:38
zeehello18:38
zeeI am18:38
bazhanghi18:38
zeedeeply offended18:38
zeeby this ban18:38
zeedo you have anything to back this up?18:38
bazhangok18:38
bazhangsure18:39
prvthello18:39
prvtwhy did I get redirected here?18:39
bazhanghi18:39
ryan____hi18:40
ryan____why did I just get redirected here18:40
bazhangrepeated issues ryan____18:41
jameswtf?18:41
jameswhy did I get here18:41
jamesI joined #ubuntu18:41
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kvtewow what the fuck18:42
kvtewhy did i get redirected here18:42
genii-aroundHm18:44
bazhangPPA dont add themselves, do they?18:56
bazhangperhaps its some ultamintylmfos derivative that all the PPA by default18:57
IdleOnebazhang: google debs do add PPA18:58
tsimpsonand opera18:59
IdleOnethere may be others. I don't know of any18:59
ikoniayes, but you are still installing something that adds a ppa18:59
Picigoogle debs that are in Ubuntu?18:59
ikoniayou're still making a choice to install that software18:59
IdleOneikonia: exactly18:59
bazhangthe wine 1.4 precise PPA?18:59
IdleOneI doubt that19:00
bazhangthats sabel's issue, but he says he has NO idea how that PPA got added19:00
IdleOneprobably followed some instructions blindly on some site19:00
ikoniabased on what I've seen of him earlier today, he blindly typed what he was told19:00
bazhangheh yeah19:00
bazhanghow does "I'm a new user" translate into "I have no short-term memory of that event"19:01
bazhangdouble -m19:02
IdleOnedoes that mean nobody can talk now?19:03
bazhangthe alternate installer of 12.04?19:05
bazhangthought that one went bye bye19:05
tsimpsonfrom 12.1019:06
bazhangok thanks19:06
IdleOnewhy did /mode +b *!*@unaffiliated/quix0te$##fix_your_connection work ?19:14
IdleOnedidn't*19:14
DJonesJust guessing, but they're joining without the cloak19:17
IdleOneI'm not seeing that here on my client19:18
DJonesMaybe /mode +b *!*@Quix0te!~Quix0te@75.108.91.76$##fix_your_connection19:18
IdleOneI set it on the nick19:19
DJonesThey're joining from that ip and then the cloak is changing the host19:19
bazhangnow need a #kubuntu op19:19
genii-aroundIdleOne: Yes, it's a matter of waiting to tap the Enter key at just the right moment!19:22
IdleOnelol19:22
chuNow, I imagine at some point (when he's fixed his connection) he'll drop past here?19:22
tsimpson-server and -classroom too19:23
IdleOneprobably19:23
IdleOneanymore channels?19:23
tsimpsonnot that I can see19:24
bazhanguse 'cat' to put the iso on usb stick?21:02
bazhangI tried that and the software updater recognized it as an installer medium21:03
genii-aroundThe hybrid iso images work fine that way, yes21:04
bazhangnice21:05
bazhangthanks genii-around21:05

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