[00:44] <IdleOne> !lmgtfy > bindir
[04:05] <IdleOne> !guidelines > AlexWebr
[11:55] <ikonia> hello shvelo
[11:55] <shvelo> ikonia, hello
[11:55] <ikonia> how can we help you today ?
[11:55] <shvelo> I wanted to register #ubuntu-ge but it seems to be registered to freenode-staff
[11:56] <ikonia> yes, it's already registered
[11:56] <ikonia> so you don't need to register it
[11:57] <ikonia> it's got an ubuntu log bot in there
[11:59] <shvelo> ok
[12:00] <shvelo> thanks
[12:00] <ikonia> no problem
[12:00] <shvelo> who is the OP?
[12:01] <ikonia> currently no ops
[12:01] <ikonia> I guess because it's not active
[12:01] <ikonia> it's a loco channel I think
[12:01] <ikonia> (unless you think it's someting else)
[12:01] <DJones> Looks like its the Ubuntu Georgian loco looking at the !ge factoid
[12:02] <ikonia> there we go
[12:03] <shvelo> yea but I Ubuntu Georgia didn't have any Wiki page or Launchpad team, I've just created them
[12:03] <shvelo> I didn't know if it existed
[12:03] <AlanBell> all the iso country codes were registered
[12:03] <shvelo> ah
[12:03] <shvelo> can I claim it?
[12:04] <ikonia> do you need to ?
[12:04] <ikonia> are you part of the loco ?
[12:04] <ikonia> have you started a loco ?
[12:04] <shvelo> I'm starting it
[12:04] <ikonia> ok, so the channel is registerd
[12:04] <ikonia> what's the issue ?
[12:04] <ikonia> make the loco, start using the channel
[12:04] <shvelo> ok
[12:06] <AlanBell> staff can UbuntuIrcCouncil have founder to #ubuntu-ge please
[12:14] <Tm_T> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gruusia
[12:32] <shvelo> anything new? I was off
[12:32] <elky> no
[12:35] <ikonia> is there anything more you actually need or want from us ?
[12:35] <shvelo> no
[12:35] <ikonia> ok, so what "new" information are you looking for ?
[12:36] <ikonia> (or expecting)
[12:36] <shvelo> just asking
[12:36] <ikonia> ok, so you have everything you need, you want no more information, that should be it ?
[12:37] <shvelo> yea
[12:37] <ikonia> ok, so good luck setting up the loco, there is a good page on the wiki that details how to do it, along with loco setup support information
[12:38] <shvelo> thanks
[12:38] <shvelo> bye
[13:05] <Tm_T> @mark #ubuntu-server FauxFaux ragequit with bad language
[13:06] <Tm_T> ubottu: ping
[14:08] <Pici> I'm *this* close to muting phix
[14:08] <ikonia> I'm closer to just ban him
[14:09] <ikonia> he's always like this
[14:09] <ikonia> it's not the first time
[14:13] <phix> IdleOne: .....
[14:13] <phix> ikonia: even
[14:14] <ikonia> phix: come back another time - I'm not interested in discussing this now
[14:14] <phix> I dont want to discuss anything, just unban me
[14:14] <phix> I was providing support
[14:14] <ikonia> no
[14:14] <ikonia> we'll discuss in 24 hours
[14:15] <Pici> You've had more than enough warnings to stop with the misinformation, take a break.
[14:15] <phix> mis information?
[14:15] <phix> I admitted I was wrong with skype not being supported
[14:15] <phix> but saying that asterisk is a better solution is not missinformation
[14:15] <phix> it is correct
[14:15] <Pici> phix: they are for different things.
[14:16] <phix> you can get a skype plugin for asterisk if you really need skype support
[14:16] <phix> they are not though
[14:16] <Pici> A USER who wants skype does not want asterisk
[14:16] <phix> they are for talking and video conferencing
[14:16] <phix> A USER who thinks they want skype actually needs asterisk
[14:16] <phix> any way
[14:16] <Pici> No.
[14:16] <phix> I didnt come here to argue that point
[14:17] <Pici> Well, you're not getting unbanned right now.
[14:17] <phix> I came here to ask if I can continue to help support ubuntu users with my knowledge
[14:17] <phix> ok, if you want to deprive your support channel of a helper that's fine with me
[14:17] <ikonia> great
[14:17] <ikonia> bye
[14:18] <phix> cya
[14:18] <ikonia>  please /part the channel
[14:19] <phix> oh
[14:19] <ikonia> thanks
[14:19] <phix> I was just waiting 24hrs til I am allowed back in
[14:19] <ikonia>  /part and come back in 24 hours and we can discuss it then
[14:19] <phix> hmmmm
[14:19] <phix> ok
[14:19] <phix> bye
[14:20] <ikonia> bye
[14:20] <Pici> @mark phix #ubuntu-ops
[15:07] <usr13_> bazhang: Are you here?
[15:08] <IdleOne> How can I help you usr13_ ?
[15:08] <usr13_> IdleOne: I would like to discuss with you the term "shell"
[15:08] <usr13_> Please define what might be your definition.
[15:09] <IdleOne> This channel is for resolution of bans primarily in #ubuntu
[15:09] <IdleOne> You might try asking in ##linux what the definition of "shell" is.
[15:09] <usr13_> Yes, and you have banned me from #ubuntu for discussing the option of using a root "shell"
[15:10] <usr13_> If that is not to be discussed on #ubuntu or not?  Or ...?
[15:10] <IdleOne> actually, no. You were banned because you "rage quit" the channel when I asked you to stop talking about using root/sudo
[15:11] <usr13_> Oh ok... Well I was leaving anyway.  I was going to bed.
[15:11] <IdleOne> right, every time I leave a room I make sure to yell at everybody in it also.
[15:11] <usr13_> At any rate, I don't think I deserve to be banned.
[15:11] <IdleOne> I don't think you understand why you were banned.
[15:12] <usr13_> It was you, not everone.
[15:12] <usr13_> Ok, then explain.
[15:12] <IdleOne> The bad attitude you displayed is not very family friendly and is not what the Ubuntu community considers proper behaviour in our channels.
[15:12] <usr13_> Ok
[15:12] <usr13_> fair enough.
[15:13] <usr13_> I agree with that type of stance.
[15:13] <IdleOne> That is good. I'm going to have the bot send you a couple of links, please read them so that we don't have further issues
[15:13] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[15:13] <IdleOne> !codeofconduct
[15:13] <usr13_> Ok
[15:14] <usr13_> (I've read them before, but will read again.
[15:16] <IdleOne> When you are done let me know if you agree to follow those guidelines and I will be happy to remove the ban in #ubuntu. Know that if there are future issues it will be more difficult to resolve.
[15:19] <IdleOne> As for the root/sudo topic. I agree with you  on some of it but #ubuntu supports using sudo or sudo -i for extended root shell. Please try to assist in the Ubuntu way while you are in #ubuntu.
[15:19] <usr13_> "err, learn, and err less in future"
[15:20] <IdleOne> sorry?
[15:20] <usr13_> ... just quoting from http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct
[15:20] <usr13_> That one I had yet to read....
[15:23] <usr13_> But when I came here, I asked to define "root shell" BECAUSE, I certainly do not believe someone should login to an Xsession as root, and so if that is what is commonly refered to as a root shell then I am quite wrong to state that that is ok, because I do not believe that it is), BUT I do not understand an Xsession as being refered to a "root shell".
[15:24] <usr13_> That is my question.....   When someone says "root shell", are they refering to Xsession?
[15:24] <IdleOne> Well, I am not the person to define what a root shell is, besides that is beyond the scope of this channel.
[15:24] <usr13_> Because, I have in the passed seen people refer to "gnome shell".  So.....
[15:25] <IdleOne> You are welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss it there. We have plenty of pretty smart people who I am sure would be glad to explain it.
[15:26] <usr13_> Ok, well not important. I dont use either of those terms because it's too ambigious.
[15:26] <IdleOne> Back to this ban thing. Can you agree to follow the guidelines?
[15:26] <usr13_> Yes
[15:26] <IdleOne> ban has been removed. thanks for understanding and have a great day.
[15:27] <usr13_> THe main thing I want to see is an open and honest exchange of Linux expertise and knowledge.
[15:27] <usr13_> Ok.
[15:27] <IdleOne> Make sure you don't forget to part this channel.
[15:29] <usr13_> Ok.  Leaving now.  But, do not think that I meant any malice to you or anyone else, because I really didn't, and I dont.  Ok>?
[15:29] <IdleOne> We don't.
[15:30] <usr13_> Ok, fair enough.  THank you.
[15:30] <IdleOne> Thank you.
[16:01] <usr13> IdleOne: Are you here?
[16:01] <usr13> seeing:  "Cannot join to channel #ubuntu (You are banned)
[16:02] <usr13> Anyone?
[16:03] <usr13> 74.113.247.233   #My IP.
[16:04] <usr13> I think someone may have banned the IP?
[16:05] <IdleOne> give me a moment
[16:05] <usr13> Ok
[16:07] <IdleOne> try now
[16:07] <usr13> Ok, you fixed it.
[16:08] <IdleOne> Make sure you don't forget to part this channel.
[16:08] <usr13> IdleOne: BTW, those two documents are very well written....
[16:09] <usr13> Ok.  C u later.
[17:35] <DJones> @comment 52485 Posting links to pornography
[17:36] <bazhang> klined I believe
[17:36] <bazhang> if idoru's kill include kline
 Sach, Canonical and others think almost daily updates are acceptable, they are not, and they don't test those updates
[18:15] <bazhang> augh
[18:23] <bazhang> and now the details come.
[18:27] <bazhang> wharglb, hi
[18:28] <wharglb> Hi, why am I being redirected here?
[18:33] <wharglb> Is it because I'm gay?
[18:33] <wharglb> Do you have something against gay people in #ubuntu ?
[18:34] <bazhang> wharglb, uh what?
[18:34] <IdleOne> No it has nothing to do with your sexual preferences, but you will remain banned.
[18:34] <wharglb> I asked a question pertaining to Ubuntu's Firefox package and why it doesn't work on bad-dragon.com, the site from which I buy my dildos.
[18:34] <zee> hey
[18:34] <zee> why did I just get redirected here
[18:34] <wharglb> Your default Firefox package does not work with this site's shoopping cart.
[18:34] <bazhang> perhaps just change the bf to straight +b
[18:35] <zee> wharglb: what is the site in question
[18:35] <zee> I have been experiencing issues with shopping carts too
[18:35] <wharglb> I already told them bad-dragon.com
[18:35] <zee> interesting
[18:35] <zee> I were facing issues with this site too
[18:35] <IdleOne> Could you both please part this channel now.
[18:36] <zee> am I not allowed here?
[18:36] <zee> Do you have issues with me being here IdleOne?
[18:36] <wharglb> No, this is a legitimate problem.
[18:36] <zee> indeed
[18:36] <wharglb> Do you think we're joking? It's not a joke, we can't buy our entertainment using Ubuntu.
[18:36] <IdleOne> zee: Do you have a reason for being here?
[18:36] <zee> I were redirected here
[18:37] <wharglb> I do. I was banned for no reason at all, for asking a legitimate question!
[18:37] <IdleOne> ok, give me a moment
[18:37] <wharglb> Anyway I have to leave now. Good bye.
[18:37] <IdleOne> wharglb: your ban will not be removed, you can go now.
[18:38] <IdleOne> zee: there doesn't appear to be a ban set on you that would forward you here.
[18:38] <IdleOne> I can only jump to the conclusion that you joined to help your friend troll us.
[18:38] <zee> hello
[18:38] <zee> I am
[18:38] <bazhang> hi
[18:38] <zee> deeply offended
[18:38] <zee> by this ban
[18:38] <zee> do you have anything to back this up?
[18:38] <bazhang> ok
[18:39] <bazhang> sure
[18:39] <prvt> hello
[18:39] <prvt> why did I get redirected here?
[18:39] <bazhang> hi
[18:40] <ryan____> hi
[18:40] <ryan____> why did I just get redirected here
[18:41] <bazhang> repeated issues ryan____
[18:41] <james> wtf?
[18:41] <james> why did I get here
[18:41] <james> I joined #ubuntu
[18:42] <kvte> wow what the fuck
[18:42] <kvte> why did i get redirected here
[18:44] <genii-around> Hm
[18:56] <bazhang> PPA dont add themselves, do they?
[18:57] <bazhang> perhaps its some ultamintylmfos derivative that all the PPA by default
[18:58] <IdleOne> bazhang: google debs do add PPA
[18:59] <tsimpson> and opera
[18:59] <IdleOne> there may be others. I don't know of any
[18:59] <ikonia> yes, but you are still installing something that adds a ppa
[18:59] <Pici> google debs that are in Ubuntu?
[18:59] <ikonia> you're still making a choice to install that software
[18:59] <IdleOne> ikonia: exactly
[18:59] <bazhang> the wine 1.4 precise PPA?
[19:00] <IdleOne> I doubt that
[19:00] <bazhang> thats sabel's issue, but he says he has NO idea how that PPA got added
[19:00] <IdleOne> probably followed some instructions blindly on some site
[19:00] <ikonia> based on what I've seen of him earlier today, he blindly typed what he was told
[19:00] <bazhang> heh yeah
[19:01] <bazhang> how does "I'm a new user" translate into "I have no short-term memory of that event"
[19:02] <bazhang> double -m
[19:03] <IdleOne> does that mean nobody can talk now?
[19:05] <bazhang> the alternate installer of 12.04?
[19:05] <bazhang> thought that one went bye bye
[19:06] <tsimpson> from 12.10
[19:06] <bazhang> ok thanks
[19:14] <IdleOne> why did /mode +b *!*@unaffiliated/quix0te$##fix_your_connection work ?
[19:14] <IdleOne> didn't*
[19:17] <DJones> Just guessing, but they're joining without the cloak
[19:18] <IdleOne> I'm not seeing that here on my client
[19:18] <DJones> Maybe /mode +b *!*@Quix0te!~Quix0te@75.108.91.76$##fix_your_connection
[19:19] <IdleOne> I set it on the nick
[19:19] <DJones> They're joining from that ip and then the cloak is changing the host
[19:19] <bazhang> now need a #kubuntu op
[19:22] <genii-around> IdleOne: Yes, it's a matter of waiting to tap the Enter key at just the right moment!
[19:22] <IdleOne> lol
[19:22] <chu> Now, I imagine at some point (when he's fixed his connection) he'll drop past here?
[19:23] <tsimpson> -server and -classroom too
[19:23] <IdleOne> probably
[19:23] <IdleOne> anymore channels?
[19:24] <tsimpson> not that I can see
[21:02] <bazhang> use 'cat' to put the iso on usb stick?
[21:03] <bazhang> I tried that and the software updater recognized it as an installer medium
[21:04] <genii-around> The hybrid iso images work fine that way, yes
[21:05] <bazhang> nice
[21:05] <bazhang> thanks genii-around