[03:27] <infinity> For those who care, britney now knows about debian-installer-images and their dependencies, so kernels won't migrate and break d-i.
[03:28] <stgraber> nice
[03:28] <infinity> stgraber: Just don't look at the commit that made this happen, you'll vomit a little.
[03:28] <infinity> stgraber: But the results are convincing:
[03:28] <infinity> Trying easy from autohinter: linux-armadaxp/3.5.0-1604.6 linux-meta-armadaxp/3.5.0.1604.6
[03:29] <infinity> leading: linux-armadaxp,linux-meta-armadaxp
[03:29] <infinity> start: 223+0: i-106:a-47:a-30:p-40
[03:29] <infinity> orig: 223+0: i-106:a-47:a-30:p-40
[03:29] <infinity> easy: 224+0: i-106:a-47:a-31:p-40
[03:29] <infinity>     * armhf: debian-installer-images
[03:29] <infinity> FAILED
[03:29]  * infinity thinks this deserves a drink.
[03:30] <stgraber> aren't you supposed to drink before you touch britney's code?
[03:34] <infinity> Possibly.  I just mixed a gin and tonic that's so strong it smells more like alcohol than anything drinkable, so this might retroactively make me drunk last week.
[03:39] <infinity> ScottK: The NBS report would lead me to believe that your force-hinting KDE was a bit premature.
[03:39] <infinity> ScottK: (And maybe that's why you needed to force it at all...)
[03:46] <infinity> ScottK: Fixing up now.  But yeah, kphotoalbum and kamoso needed transitions to new libs, which was likely why you had to force things. :/
[03:48] <infinity> ScottK: Oh, and both need porting, not just rebuilding.  Bah.
[03:48] <infinity> ScottK: This is kinda what the whole migration thing is for, no?
[03:48] <bjf> infinity, your no fun, we live to break d-i
[03:52] <infinity> bjf: :)
[05:05] <ScottK> cjwatson: Would it be possible to add ffmpegthumbs, kfloppy, kiten and pairs to the Kubuntu packageset in quantal (I believe they are in it for raring already).  It would make getting post-release KDE updates uploaded easier.
[05:47] <micahg> ScottK: can you please score https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa/+build/4022293 up to 20000
[05:48] <ScottK> How about 9999999?
[05:49] <micahg> I'm not that worried about stuff jumping ahead :)
[05:49] <micahg> but that works, thanks
[05:50]  * micahg just hopes everything finishes in time...
[07:08] <ScottK> micahg: Does firefox on armel need retrying?
[07:08] <ScottK> (quantal)
[07:10]  * ScottK does.
[07:10] <ScottK> Actually it was oneiric.
[09:28] <infinity> ScottK: Ahh, nevermind my whining earlier, I caught backscroll from 4 days ago and saw this was discussed.
[09:28] <infinity> ScottK: Still, naughty. :P
[09:53] <seb128> powerpc  	2 	57 jobs (28 hours)
[09:53] <seb128> shrug
[09:53] <seb128> cjwatson, hey, did you restore the "need ppc build to migrate to raring"?
[09:54] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/accountsservice/0.6.29-1ubuntu2 didn't migrate this night
[10:20] <infinity> seb128: Yes, he did.  Right before we killed the buildds with a ton of security updates.
[10:20] <infinity> seb128: Partial migration was causing some unintended side effects.
[10:20] <seb128> infinity, is there any way around waiting that backlog to resolve itself?
[10:21] <seb128> or we are just doomed at waiting monday to get stuff in raring at this point?
[10:21] <infinity> seb128: If what you're worried about it in main, it'll resolve itself quite quickly.
[10:21] <infinity> seb128: webkit is almost done, and firefox will be done in a few hours.
[10:21] <infinity> s/it in/is in/
[10:21] <seb128> infinity, I'm worried that stuff I uploaded 16 hours ago are still blocking in raring-proposed
[10:22] <infinity> Well, worry less?
[10:22] <seb128> and that the builder package announces a 28 hours backlog
[10:22] <infinity> Having this discussion every second day won't solve anything.
[10:22] <ogra-cb_> hey, think positive, it willl be there on monday :P
[10:23] <seb128> infinity, well, I was trying to see if cjwatson was wanting to relax the powerpc requirements again :p
[10:24] <infinity> seb128: See above, re: Partial migration was causing some unintended side effects.
[10:24] <infinity> Anything after that line was pretty much not constructive.
[10:25] <seb128> sorry about that
[10:25] <seb128> it's frustrating to be blocked for days and have no way out
[10:25] <ogra-cb_> seb128, welcome to my world
[10:27] <Daviey> ScottK: Remember the thread earlier this year about irqbalance being added to ubuntu-standard?  Did it go anywhere?
[10:27] <Daviey> (^ or anyone else)
[10:27] <ogra-cb_> seems to be installed by default
[10:27] <ogra-cb_> i see it on my nexus installs :)
[10:27] <Daviey> ogra-cb_: why?
[10:27] <Daviey> as in, where are you seeing it seeded, depended?
[10:28] <ogra-cb_> running
[10:28] <ogra-cb_> havent checked seeds
[10:28] <Daviey> doesn't seem to be directly seeded.
[10:29] <Daviey> People seem to remember it being installed by default on server... but i fear it was lost.
[10:29] <ogra-cb_> ogra@chromebook:~$ apt-cache show irqbalance |grep Task
[10:29] <Daviey> Ah, lucid added it to standard
[10:29] <ogra-cb_> Task: standard, kubuntu-active
[10:29] <ogra-cb_> ogra@chromebook:~$
[10:29] <Laney> ubuntu-standard
[10:30] <ogra-cb_> no idea why its seeded explicitly in kubuntu-active though
[10:41] <Daviey> Hmm.
[12:26] <cjwatson> seb128: I put it back because it turns out that relaxing it breaks powerpc-only packages.  I might relax it again if I have a chance to fix that - which won't be today because I'm on holiday.
[12:26] <seb128> cjwatson, hey, ok, enjoy your holiday ;-)
[12:26] <seb128> cjwatson, with some luck by monday the backlog will be cleared
[12:27] <cjwatson> I expect it'll be fine - it was clear when I looked yesterday evening.
[12:28] <infinity> Yeah, even without rescuing sulfur, the backlog will clear.
[12:28] <infinity> Unless miach uploads another firefox security update and another, and another. :P
[12:28] <infinity> But here's hoping we get sulfur sorted today anyway.
[12:29] <seb128> we got unlucky, the first thing ross picked after webkit is a kde package which takes 4.5 hours to build
[12:29] <seb128> unlucky or not, the score seems to have been bumped for that build so somebody wanted it ;-)
[12:29] <infinity> That wasn't bad luck, that was ScottK scoring it up. :/
[12:29] <infinity> Had I noticed before it got picked up, I might have undone that.
[12:29] <infinity> But oh well.
[12:30] <infinity> Everything needs to build eventually anyway.
[12:30] <seb128> (I hope accountsservice will not have runtime issues when it hits the archive during the W.E)
[12:31] <infinity> You can test it from proposed...
[12:32] <seb128> I'm running it since yesterday
[12:32] <seb128> but I get I will have feedback from users until it reachs raring
[12:32] <infinity> I'd say that sounds like it doesn't have massive issues, then.
[12:32] <seb128> no it doesn't, I just hate things landing on friday, just being paranoid ;-)
[12:32] <seb128> you never know, I didn't test on all archs for example
[12:33] <infinity> Well, I scored it up.  It'll be the next thing to build when firefox is done.
[12:33] <seb128> thanks
[13:01] <ScottK> Sorry, trying to get things in shape before the weekend for Alpha 1.
[13:03] <infinity> I spent a couple of minutes on porting kphotoalbum and then got distracted.
[13:03] <ScottK> infinity: There's an upstream branch we should get ~sson.
[13:03] <ScottK> soon
[13:03] <ScottK> Same for Kamoso
[13:04] <ScottK> For Alpha 1 it's just an extra copy of the libs, so I'm not worried.
[13:32] <Mirv> RAOF (or someone else on SRU team): hi! we'd need to pull out the quantal Unity 6.12.0-0ubuntu0.1. there is a regression (currently documented in bug #1067357 comments) and we need that to be fixed.
[13:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1067357 in Unity "Top panel shows "Tauler d&apos;inici" instead of "Taluer d'inici"" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1067357
[13:32] <Mirv> the bug is marked verification-failed, but mostly it's no use keeping the release in -proposed if we anyway know we want to have the regression fixed
[13:33] <infinity> Mirv: I can delete it from -proposed, sure.
[13:33] <Mirv> infinity: thanks
[13:34] <infinity> Just unity?
[13:34] <Mirv> infinity: just unity, compiz SRU is going on good
[13:34] <Mirv> and just quantal
[13:34] <infinity> Done.
[13:36] <ScottK> infinity: Am I wrong re kamoso and kphotoalbum that the only negtive effect is two copies of the relevant libs on our images until they kamsos (that's the only one that's seeded) gets ported?
[13:37] <infinity> ScottK: No, you're not wrong, that's the effect, but I also don't want this to be habit forming. :P
[13:37] <infinity> ScottK: Half the point of proposed is to make sure transitions happen before migration, not after.
[13:41] <ScottK> Sure.  I agree about habit forming, but I'm not going to get grumpy about a few leaf packages.
[14:13] <infinity> Alright, buildd chroots updated yet again, let's see how quickly the PPC queues dry out.
[14:18] <ScottK> infinity: There's KDE SC 4.9.3 in queue for quantal-proposed, so "not soon".
[14:20] <infinity> ScottK: Oh, right, do you plan to get all that stuff accepted over the weekend?
[14:20] <ScottK> Yes.
[14:20] <infinity> Shiny.
[14:20] <ScottK> I reviewed the queue last night and had a few issues, so I'm waiting for more uploads, but I'd hoped to start today.
[14:54] <micahg> ScottK: thanks for the Firefox retry
[14:54] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[14:55] <micahg> hrm, lucid failed too...
[14:55] <micahg> I'm a bit reluctant to retry right now though
[14:57] <infinity> Why?
[14:58] <infinity> micahg: Were the sparc and ia64 failures expected?
[14:58] <micahg> infinity: yes
[14:58] <micahg> infinity: release is soon and I won't be around in 11 hours for it to finish, lucid armel is also EOL
[14:58] <infinity> That looks rather fixable...
[14:59] <micahg> infinity: sparc and ia64? probably fixable, but I doubt people are running desktops on those machines, also we haven't really had any complaints...
[14:59] <infinity> micahg: Yeah, I'm not hugely concerned about lucid/armel, just curious.
[15:00] <micahg> infinity: if it wasn't Fri today, I'd probably retry it FWIW
[15:00] <infinity> I'm not sure a retry will get you anywhere.
[15:00] <infinity> Unless this was before GCC's automagic ICE-retry magic was added.
[15:01] <infinity> Cause if it was cosmic rays, it would retry, and tell you it wasn't reproducible.
[15:20] <micahg> infinity: there were no code changes in that part of the source, so that leads me to believe it's cosmic rays
[15:21] <infinity> Tis possible.
[15:21] <infinity> FWIW, Pete just bought a big bag of heatsinks for the Pandas in the DC.  Kinda curious to see if any of our weird ray-related bugs dissipate.
[15:21] <infinity> (Even if they don't, though, the Pandas will get faster...)
[15:22] <infinity> The joys of CPUs that can't actually run full speed without constantly throttling to avoid overheating.
[15:22] <Laney> mmm rays
[15:47] <ScottK> Apparently we're still making Kubuntu dailies for alternate images.  Those can go away.
[15:48] <stgraber> ok, I'll remove them from cron
[15:48] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:49] <ScottK> stgraber: Can you remove the existing raring alternate daily alternates so they don't show up as there, but not updated?
[15:50] <stgraber> yep
[15:51] <stgraber> ScottK: all done
[15:51] <ScottK> stgraber: Thanks.
[17:31] <SpamapS> Hi, can somebody who understands the archive better than me take a look at the walinuxagent package in the precise upload queue? Its New, and in "universe", but walinuxagent is supposed to be in main (it has to go on the cloud images)
[17:37] <ScottK> SpamapS: You have to override it to Main if that's where you want it.
[17:37] <ScottK> New packages always default to Universe
[17:39] <SpamapS> utlemming: ^^ I seem to recall walinuxagent getting a MIR for this explicit purpose at some point.
[17:39] <utlemming> SpamapS: Yes, this went through a MIR....let me dredge that up
[17:40] <utlemming> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/walinuxagent/+bug/1014864
[17:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1014864 in walinuxagent (Ubuntu Quantal) "[MIR] New package - walinuxagent" [High,Fix released]
[17:40] <SpamapS> utlemming: but thats quantal...
[17:42] <ScottK> If it were me, I'd at least want the Security team to ack they were ok with it for an LTS release.
[17:42] <SpamapS> I feel like thats already been done
[17:43] <utlemming> SpamapS: this MIR covers the 12.04.1 bits too
[17:44] <SpamapS> ok cool
[17:47] <jamespage> SpamapS, I think its showing up in NEW for precise cause it only exists in -updates if that makes sense
[17:47] <infinity> SpamapS: I was going to be sorting that.
[17:47] <SpamapS> infinity: ahh thank you
[17:51] <ScottK> jamespage: Yes.  It's in New because it's New for that release.  The same thing happens with backports.
[17:53] <jamespage> ScottK, ack
[17:59] <med_> thanks guys
[19:33] <bdmurray> slangasek: xf86-input-evtouch in lucid can be removed as the verification never happened
[19:33] <slangasek> bdmurray: removed
[19:33] <bdmurray> slangasek: unity in oneiric
[19:36] <bdmurray> slangasek: multipath-tools in lucid
[19:39] <bdmurray> slangasek: libcgroup in oneiric
[19:40] <slangasek> bdmurray: nux/o-p, multipath-tools/l-p, libcgroup/o-p removed
[19:40] <bdmurray> slangasek: libdvdread in oneiric
[19:46] <slangasek> done
[19:53] <bdmurray> slangasek: distribute in oneiric
[19:54] <slangasek> done
[19:55] <bdmurray> slangasek: mawk in lucid
[19:57] <bdmurray> slangasek: libxi in lucid
[20:02] <bdmurray> slangasek: dbconfig-common in lucid
[20:04] <bdmurray> slangasek: libchewing in lucid
[20:05] <slangasek> bdmurray: all gone
[20:12]  * ScottK tries to kill the queuebot.
[20:23] <ScottK> Interesting.  It seems to have eaten my accepting kde-l10n-* for quantal-proposed entirely.
[21:59] <bdmurray> slangasek: udisk in oneiric
[22:00] <bdmurray> er udisks
[22:00] <bdmurray> slangasek: mesa in oneiric
[22:01] <bdmurray> slangasek: eggdrop in oneiric
[22:01] <bdmurray> slangasek: indicator-datetime in oneiric
[22:03] <slangasek> bdmurray: done
[22:03] <bdmurray> slangasek: postgis in oneiric
[22:04] <bdmurray> slangasek: pyfits in lucid
[22:04] <bdmurray> slangasek: pam in lucid
[22:04] <slangasek> oh no
[22:04] <slangasek> not pam!
[22:04] <slangasek> (is that mine?)
[22:05] <bdmurray> bug 586462
[22:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 586462 in pam (Ubuntu Lucid) "/sbin/pam_tally2 not included in package" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586462
[22:05] <slangasek> why, it sure is
[22:05] <bdmurray> slangasek: seabios in lucid
[22:06] <slangasek> trying to decide how I feel about the pam one.  I've never used the darn module so am not really in a position to test... so... ok, kill it
[22:06] <slangasek> (done)
[22:14] <bdmurray> slangasek: w-scan in lucid
[22:14] <bdmurray> slangasek: gst-plugins-bad0.10 in lucid
[22:24] <bdmurray> slangasek: vim-addon-manager in lucid
[22:25] <bdmurray> slangasek: clutter-gst in oneiric
[22:25] <bdmurray> slangasek: gdevilspie in oneiric
[22:25] <bdmurray> slangasek: bamf in oneiric
[22:26] <bdmurray> slangasek: initramfs-tools in lucid
[23:03] <cjwatson> ScottK: I've added those four sources to the kubuntu/quantal package set.
[23:04] <ScottK> cjwatson: Thanks.
[23:04] <ScottK> infinity: I just put caph on manual due to multiple chroot failures.
[23:16] <slangasek> bdmurray: all done
[23:16] <bdmurray> slangasek: thanks!
[23:30] <ScottK> Strange.
[23:30]  * ScottK did not accept two marbles.