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shauno well, it is midnight00:00
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diploMorning08:07
popeyyo08:14
AlanBellmorning08:39
popeyhmmm08:48
popey!ping08:48
lubotu3pong!08:48
popeyyay08:48
directhex!peng08:50
pndemcI installed Zpanel on my ubuntu server, and now I can't launch my game servers, it keeps telling me "No such file or directory" when it gets to either ./steam or ./srcds_run. Does anyone know what could be causing this?08:54
MooDoohello all08:59
kvarleyWhy when setting up an SSL certificate for my domain do I need to specify a subdomain as well?08:59
kvarleyMooDoo: Hi08:59
MooDoo:)09:02
MooDookvarley: because the SSL is normally tied to the subdomain and the domain.09:03
kvarleyMooDoo: Ah ok, I did it. I was just wondering :)09:09
MooDookvarley: sweet :D09:18
SuperMattwoo, finally part of the steam linux beta09:21
popey:)09:23
popeySS3 is fun09:23
SuperMattindeed it is09:26
SuperMattI'd been playing it witgh non-beta status09:27
SuperMattbut I'm glad now to officially be part of it09:27
SuperMattnow to submit my plethora of bugs09:27
czajkowskiMorning folks!09:36
MooDoomorning czajkowski09:43
JamesTaitHappy Friday, folks! :-D09:44
MooDoo:)09:45
brobostigongood morning everyone,09:46
ikoniaAny of you guys got a recommendation for a "dellwarehouse.com" type of site for Lenovo gear09:47
ikoniaI need to pickup a very speicifc laptop make/model from lenvo for a gift and I'm shopping around for good places to buy09:47
* popey pokes ikonia with a pm09:55
directhexwiiu!10:02
gordsomeone pointed out to me the other day that nintendo are going to have a really hard time with wiiu game sequels... new Super Mario Bros U2: Bono world10:04
popeythe wii mini is an odd device10:10
popeyare there lots of people who clamour for a wii without online capability?10:10
popeyif it were ~40$ cheaper I can imagine it flying off the shelves for use in bedrooms, spare rooms etc10:11
gordi think its for the xmas family market not for the people who want to still be playing it in febuary market10:22
bigcalmNot a good start to the day: can't mount my samba shares10:29
christelpopey: get yourself a babysitter tomorrow night and bring clare to hindhead and attend the freenode christmas do! people have become all sick and pulled out so i am left with several meals going spare and this upsets me!10:30
czajkowskichristel: you back in the UK10:33
christelyes maam!10:33
christelyou can come tomorrow too!10:33
christel:P10:33
MooDoochristel: create ubuntu-uk doggy bags ;)10:34
christelhaha10:34
* czajkowski will be living in hampshire as of 6pm today 10:34
czajkowskiI am still in two minds about this10:34
christelczajkowski: PERFECT! then you MUST come10:34
MooDooczajkowski: moved house?10:35
christelit can double as the WELCOME BAKC czajkowski PARTY10:35
czajkowskimight try as other half wont be around10:35
christelyay :D10:35
czajkowskichristel: can you mail with location so I can figure out directions10:35
christelyesss10:35
czajkowskiI live [...]close to the train station :)10:35
czajkowskiMooDoo: yup10:35
czajkowskiah I can the #19 bus directly there10:36
christelooh :D10:37
christelthere is a busstop outside my house i think10:37
christelwell, on the main road (i am set back a bit from the main road)10:37
czajkowskiwell plugged in the name of the area no idea if its right10:37
davmor2Morning all10:51
MooDoomorning davmor210:52
davmor2MooDoo: 'Ow am ya10:52
bigcalmMorning davmor210:55
davmor2bigcalm: hellooooooo10:56
mungojerrywent to london devops meeting yesterday, was v good10:59
directhexpopey, the wii mini has bizarre timing too. are there really that many houses that wanted a wii but don't have one due to size?11:06
directhexit's not as if the sensor bar's shrunk11:06
MooDoohello davmor2 yes i'm gine, christel was just inviting the planet to a christmas party ;) lol11:06
dwatkinsdirecthex: perhaps it's cheaper too11:07
directhexdwatkins, a little, but the existing wii is already heavily discounted11:07
directhexlike, under a hundred quid11:07
directhexthe price dropped when they removed gamecube support11:07
dwatkinsyeah, oh my, a Lego Wii controller...11:07
popeythey removed gc support?11:09
popeywas that done in a hardware rev?11:09
dwatkinsI guess Dolphin must work well enough as an emulator... ;)11:10
bigcalmWorkstation reboot and the samba shares connect this time. Grr11:11
directhexpopey, removed in the first wii revision without a stand11:12
directhexi think that was used in mario & sonic at the olympic games bundles11:12
bigcalmCupcake for breakfast - living the life11:13
dwatkinsdreaming the rainbow11:16
davmor2dwatkins: oh you have a packet of skittles then11:16
dwatkinsdavmor2: sadly not, they have too much sugar for my liking11:16
MooDoodavmor2: sugar my butt, it's too much rainbow for you to handle ;)11:23
MooDooand that was meant for dwatkins lol11:23
dwatkinsMooDoo: haha, if only11:24
bootinfdsdsanybody about ?13:23
bashrcno13:23
bootinfdsds:(13:24
bootinfdsdsAlanBell, Did you get some coins from the IoM today ?13:24
AlanBellooh, dunno, not been home yet :)13:25
AlanBellbut thanks!13:25
bootinfdsdsOh Ok .. well tell me when you do, thank-you.13:26
bootinfdsdsAlanBell,  The IoMLUG has beemn called off till next year, TBHonest Dan never really gave it a chance and so I have formed a G-LUG group of a couple of people. We're mostly online but were looking to-do more in the new year.13:29
bootinfdsdsApart from the iom.lug.org.uk being a contradiction in terms, I feel as though the community could be better versed with a GLUG.im for serving the Manx community.13:30
bashrcIs the isle of man embracing linux?13:34
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popeydoes the G in G-LUG mean GNU perchance bootinfdsds ?13:38
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davmor2popey: Nope it stands for Gangnam13:49
MartijnVdSGangnam-LUG?14:18
brobostigonnow that, would be so sad.14:20
AlanBelloppa linux style14:20
DJonesArgh, dual screen set up nicely & all working yesterday, now just have to fix the pebkac that keeps leaving me in the wrong window on the wrong screen14:25
SuperMattare programs loading on the wrong screen?14:31
DJonesNO, programs are on the right screen, its just the user thats forgetting which screen/window/app is active14:35
SuperMattfair enough14:37
SuperMattI tend to set mine up with "working" apps on the left hand screen, and my browser and email client sit on the right14:37
DJonesI do the opposite, personal apps (polly, thunderbird, pidgin, irssi) on the left screen, work/business apps, Libreoffice etc on the right, and then use the left screen for browsing if I need to research something14:40
DJonesFor some reason, I look at the left screen more often :)14:40
SuperMattI couldn't begin to understandn why14:42
gordmight be a bit sacrilegious to say here, but windows 8 is *really* nice on multi-monitor. you can basically turn one monitor into a really nice big tablet and the other stays as a "regular" ui14:42
czajkowskianyone know how one contacts amazon14:58
czajkowskiI have been shipped someones kiddie xmas gifts14:58
czajkowskiabout 4 board games14:59
MartijnVdSczajkowski: there's a "return items" thing in the box with them14:59
MartijnVdSczajkowski: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/css/returns/homepage.html/ref=hy_f_414:59
gordis it not someone near to you that you can just pop round to their house?15:00
czajkowskiMartijnVdS: nope15:00
czajkowskigord: nope it's a french order15:00
czajkowskiall the games are in french15:00
gordha15:00
MartijnVdSczajkowski: they also have a "Contact us" -> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/contact-us/ref=hp_ss_comp_cu?ie=UTF8&nodeId=471044 for me15:00
gordthat is quite lost15:00
popeyheh, we got wrong stuff one year15:01
popeyloads of books I would have ordered anyway15:02
czajkowskiwhoo have them calling me now15:02
czajkowskipopey: aye just dont want someone missing their kids presents15:02
czajkowskilooks nice stuff and cost them a cuple of hundred euros15:02
czajkowskias I can see that receipt15:02
czajkowskiok seems I can keep the stuff or donate to charity15:09
czajkowskias there is no returns label n the box15:09
czajkowskiso they can't generate a label for me as I cant give them a reference number15:09
czajkowskipopey: would therealpopey like them for her school class they are all in french ?15:09
gordevery time i call amazon up about, well, anything, they just tell me to keep it and they'll send another. i love amazon15:23
gordapart from the kindle that i smashed, but they still just replaced it for free with no quibbles15:24
popeyczajkowski, ooh! that'd be lovely, that do french.. what are they? books?15:31
czajkowskipopey: board games15:32
popeyoh sweet, yeah, if you don't want them I'm sure the school would love them, thanks15:35
czajkowskigrand15:39
czajkowskidone15:39
czajkowskiand sorted15:39
czajkowski:)15:39
czajkowskione less thing to worry about15:39
czajkowskijust dont like things going to waste and unlike jon I don't horde things up for years!15:39
czajkowskihe's rather special you know15:39
popey:)15:39
popeyhttp://en.community.dell.com/dell-blogs/direct2dell/b/direct2dell/archive/2012/11/30/sputnik-pricing-update.aspx15:54
popey\o/15:54
SuperMattpopey: that's wonderful news16:03
SuperMattnow my question. In Fedora 18, tty1 is the gui, but it's tty7 on ubuntu. Is there a reason why it's still tty7?16:04
popeywhat's the rationale for changing it?16:05
shaunoI'd assume some combination of entrenched inertia, and "if it ain't broke"16:05
gordif they changed it there would be a lot of "omg my computer is broken i can't get back to my desktop" support issues16:06
SuperMattwell, I just would have thought people would expect the main place for doing things would exist a 1, not 716:06
BigRedSI think once you've got the hang of TTYs you pretty quickly remember the guis on 716:06
BigRedSactually, I don't. I always go for 8 first...16:07
shaunoon the other hand, I'd expect anyone who's actually dropping down to a tty to know what/why16:07
cocoa117what's the best way to execute a command without user interaction, e.g. create folder mkdir /srv/abc/abc16:14
cocoa117i mean through SSH16:14
popeycocoa117, nohup?16:17
cocoa117popey, ssh test@test..., then what16:18
popeyoh, you want to run a command on a remote box?16:18
popeyssh user@host -e '/bin/bash -c <command>'16:19
cocoa117popey, yes, all i need was copy file to a server using SCP, but then there are sometimes the folder i want to copy to might not exist yet16:19
popeyI'd use rsync :)16:20
popeyit will create the folders16:20
cocoa117popey, ennn, probably a good idea, never cross my mind, :)16:20
cocoa117rsync with ssh, :), i try that16:21
cocoa117popey, is there a parameter i need to use with rsync to make sure it create folder if it doesn't exist on the server side?16:29
popeycocoa117, look at -R in the man page.. may help16:31
dwatkinswouldn't that be '-r'? I use that and rsync creates directories where needed.16:33
popeygord, you still use your x220 much or have you moved on?16:56
cocoa117popey, en, rsync don't really solve my issue here, the initial login folder need to exist first16:59
directhexwiiiiiiii!17:12
MartijnVdSWoo! http://qi.com/the-qi-advent-calendar17:15
gordpopey, yeah i still use it all the time, i tried to replace it with a tablet, but that didn't go well, so i'm still using it17:16
popeygord, is yours the i7?17:16
gordi317:17
popeyah17:17
gordmy x220 purchase was based mostly on "oh crap my laptop just died and there is a sprint just around the corner, what is the cheapest but nice machine i can get"17:18
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jacobw2evening19:34
brobostigonevening jacobw219:34
directhexso, only directhex has a launch-day wii u?19:35
jacobw2a what now?19:36
directhexthat's a yes, then19:38
davmor2_directhex: has a wii on launch-day, Man you need to contain your excitement better19:47
andrewshi all - can anyone help me?  I have an external usb Samsung S2 harddrive which I am trying to get working in Linux so I can wipe it (its come from a windows NTFS system) but Ubuntu wont let me do anything with it - I can see it in the "computer" section but cant actually do anything with it.  Can anyone tell me in laymans terms how to get it working?19:56
directhexandrews, click the dash button, and type "part" - with luck you should have gparted partition editor installed19:59
directhexandrews, you can use this to reformat any partitions on the drive using the filesystem of your choice19:59
andrewsthanks for this, though sorry for sounding like a plonker, whats the dash button?20:01
MartijnVdSandrews: the one in the top left20:01
MartijnVdSthe one with the Ubuntu logo20:02
andrewsah cheers.  found the disk utility - that will do it wont it?20:03
jacobw2yeah20:04
jacobw2andrews: you can use NTFS with Linux, but it's easier to use filesystem with POSIX permissions like ext420:05
andrewsthanks, I want to wipe the drive to back up my imac - as such it wont read the current ntfs system20:06
andrewsso i have to use my ubuntu laptop to wipe the drive20:06
directhexyou probably want FAT32 then, if it's for use with multiple OSes20:07
directhexnote: 4gb maximum size for a single file on FAT3220:07
andrewsonce i can get my mac to see it, i can re-format it again hopefully, though think that my mac has put a Oxaf partition there.20:11
popeyevening20:11
brobostigonevening popey20:13
mgdm I lile how I can order shoes off Amazon20:19
mgdmthat way I don't need to go to a shoe shop20:19
popeyooh!20:21
dwatkinswhat if they don't fit?20:21
popeyi didnt know this!20:21
mgdmdwatkins: they will, I have had the same type before :)20:21
dwatkinsah good, mgdm - I've noticed even for a given manufacturer, the same numbered size is often quite different.20:21
mgdmI've been wearing this type in this size since I was about 1220:22
mgdmit's my go-to shoe20:22
mgdm:)20:22
* popey adds loads of shoes to his wish-list20:23
mgdmhehe20:23
mgdmat the risk of a flaming, anyone going to FOSDEM who does PHP... you have about 4 hours to submit a talk to the PHP devroom...20:24
dwatkinswhich ones, mgdm?20:25
mgdmdwatkins: Adidas Sambas :)20:27
dwatkinsI like Converse, but I tend to wear trainers mostly.20:27
mgdmConverse last me about 2 months20:27
jacobw2http://www.merrell.com/UK/en-GB/Product.mvc.aspx/25951M/59647/Mens/Moab-Waterproof?dimensions=020:29
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