[00:00] well, it is midnight === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [08:07] Morning [08:14] yo [08:39] morning [08:48] hmmm [08:48] !ping [08:48] pong! [08:48] yay [08:50] !peng [08:54] I installed Zpanel on my ubuntu server, and now I can't launch my game servers, it keeps telling me "No such file or directory" when it gets to either ./steam or ./srcds_run. Does anyone know what could be causing this? [08:59] hello all [08:59] Why when setting up an SSL certificate for my domain do I need to specify a subdomain as well? [08:59] MooDoo: Hi [09:02] :) [09:03] kvarley: because the SSL is normally tied to the subdomain and the domain. [09:09] MooDoo: Ah ok, I did it. I was just wondering :) [09:18] kvarley: sweet :D [09:21] woo, finally part of the steam linux beta [09:23] :) [09:23] SS3 is fun [09:26] indeed it is [09:27] I'd been playing it witgh non-beta status [09:27] but I'm glad now to officially be part of it [09:27] now to submit my plethora of bugs [09:36] Morning folks! [09:43] morning czajkowski [09:44] Happy Friday, folks! :-D [09:45] :) [09:46] good morning everyone, [09:47] Any of you guys got a recommendation for a "dellwarehouse.com" type of site for Lenovo gear [09:47] I need to pickup a very speicifc laptop make/model from lenvo for a gift and I'm shopping around for good places to buy [09:55] * popey pokes ikonia with a pm [10:02] wiiu! [10:04] someone pointed out to me the other day that nintendo are going to have a really hard time with wiiu game sequels... new Super Mario Bros U2: Bono world [10:10] the wii mini is an odd device [10:10] are there lots of people who clamour for a wii without online capability? [10:11] if it were ~40$ cheaper I can imagine it flying off the shelves for use in bedrooms, spare rooms etc [10:22] i think its for the xmas family market not for the people who want to still be playing it in febuary market [10:29] Not a good start to the day: can't mount my samba shares [10:30] popey: get yourself a babysitter tomorrow night and bring clare to hindhead and attend the freenode christmas do! people have become all sick and pulled out so i am left with several meals going spare and this upsets me! [10:33] christel: you back in the UK [10:33] yes maam! [10:33] you can come tomorrow too! [10:33] :P [10:34] christel: create ubuntu-uk doggy bags ;) [10:34] haha [10:34] * czajkowski will be living in hampshire as of 6pm today [10:34] I am still in two minds about this [10:34] czajkowski: PERFECT! then you MUST come [10:35] czajkowski: moved house? [10:35] it can double as the WELCOME BAKC czajkowski PARTY [10:35] might try as other half wont be around [10:35] yay :D [10:35] christel: can you mail with location so I can figure out directions [10:35] yesss [10:35] I live [...]close to the train station :) [10:35] MooDoo: yup [10:36] ah I can the #19 bus directly there [10:37] ooh :D [10:37] there is a busstop outside my house i think [10:37] well, on the main road (i am set back a bit from the main road) [10:37] well plugged in the name of the area no idea if its right [10:51] Morning all [10:52] morning davmor2 [10:52] MooDoo: 'Ow am ya [10:55] Morning davmor2 [10:56] bigcalm: hellooooooo [10:59] went to london devops meeting yesterday, was v good [11:06] popey, the wii mini has bizarre timing too. are there really that many houses that wanted a wii but don't have one due to size? [11:06] it's not as if the sensor bar's shrunk [11:06] hello davmor2 yes i'm gine, christel was just inviting the planet to a christmas party ;) lol [11:07] directhex: perhaps it's cheaper too [11:07] dwatkins, a little, but the existing wii is already heavily discounted [11:07] like, under a hundred quid [11:07] the price dropped when they removed gamecube support [11:07] yeah, oh my, a Lego Wii controller... [11:09] they removed gc support? [11:09] was that done in a hardware rev? [11:10] I guess Dolphin must work well enough as an emulator... ;) [11:11] Workstation reboot and the samba shares connect this time. Grr [11:12] popey, removed in the first wii revision without a stand [11:12] i think that was used in mario & sonic at the olympic games bundles [11:13] Cupcake for breakfast - living the life [11:16] dreaming the rainbow [11:16] dwatkins: oh you have a packet of skittles then [11:16] davmor2: sadly not, they have too much sugar for my liking [11:23] davmor2: sugar my butt, it's too much rainbow for you to handle ;) [11:23] and that was meant for dwatkins lol [11:24] MooDoo: haha, if only [13:23] anybody about ? [13:23] no [13:24] :( [13:24] AlanBell, Did you get some coins from the IoM today ? [13:25] ooh, dunno, not been home yet :) [13:25] but thanks! [13:26] Oh Ok .. well tell me when you do, thank-you. [13:29] AlanBell, The IoMLUG has beemn called off till next year, TBHonest Dan never really gave it a chance and so I have formed a G-LUG group of a couple of people. We're mostly online but were looking to-do more in the new year. [13:30] Apart from the iom.lug.org.uk being a contradiction in terms, I feel as though the community could be better versed with a GLUG.im for serving the Manx community. [13:34] Is the isle of man embracing linux? === popey_ is now known as popey [13:38] does the G in G-LUG mean GNU perchance bootinfdsds ? === p is now known as Guest8579 === Guest8579 is now known as PeteB [13:49] popey: Nope it stands for Gangnam [14:18] Gangnam-LUG? [14:20] now that, would be so sad. [14:20] oppa linux style [14:25] Argh, dual screen set up nicely & all working yesterday, now just have to fix the pebkac that keeps leaving me in the wrong window on the wrong screen [14:31] are programs loading on the wrong screen? [14:35] NO, programs are on the right screen, its just the user thats forgetting which screen/window/app is active [14:37] fair enough [14:37] I tend to set mine up with "working" apps on the left hand screen, and my browser and email client sit on the right [14:40] I do the opposite, personal apps (polly, thunderbird, pidgin, irssi) on the left screen, work/business apps, Libreoffice etc on the right, and then use the left screen for browsing if I need to research something [14:40] For some reason, I look at the left screen more often :) [14:42] I couldn't begin to understandn why [14:42] might be a bit sacrilegious to say here, but windows 8 is *really* nice on multi-monitor. you can basically turn one monitor into a really nice big tablet and the other stays as a "regular" ui [14:58] anyone know how one contacts amazon [14:58] I have been shipped someones kiddie xmas gifts [14:59] about 4 board games [14:59] czajkowski: there's a "return items" thing in the box with them [14:59] czajkowski: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/css/returns/homepage.html/ref=hy_f_4 [15:00] is it not someone near to you that you can just pop round to their house? [15:00] MartijnVdS: nope [15:00] gord: nope it's a french order [15:00] all the games are in french [15:00] ha [15:00] czajkowski: they also have a "Contact us" -> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/contact-us/ref=hp_ss_comp_cu?ie=UTF8&nodeId=471044 for me [15:00] that is quite lost [15:01] heh, we got wrong stuff one year [15:02] loads of books I would have ordered anyway [15:02] whoo have them calling me now [15:02] popey: aye just dont want someone missing their kids presents [15:02] looks nice stuff and cost them a cuple of hundred euros [15:02] as I can see that receipt [15:09] ok seems I can keep the stuff or donate to charity [15:09] as there is no returns label n the box [15:09] so they can't generate a label for me as I cant give them a reference number [15:09] popey: would therealpopey like them for her school class they are all in french ? [15:23] every time i call amazon up about, well, anything, they just tell me to keep it and they'll send another. i love amazon [15:24] apart from the kindle that i smashed, but they still just replaced it for free with no quibbles [15:31] czajkowski, ooh! that'd be lovely, that do french.. what are they? books? [15:32] popey: board games [15:35] oh sweet, yeah, if you don't want them I'm sure the school would love them, thanks [15:39] grand [15:39] done [15:39] and sorted [15:39] :) [15:39] one less thing to worry about [15:39] just dont like things going to waste and unlike jon I don't horde things up for years! [15:39] he's rather special you know [15:39] :) [15:54] http://en.community.dell.com/dell-blogs/direct2dell/b/direct2dell/archive/2012/11/30/sputnik-pricing-update.aspx [15:54] \o/ [16:03] popey: that's wonderful news [16:04] now my question. In Fedora 18, tty1 is the gui, but it's tty7 on ubuntu. Is there a reason why it's still tty7? [16:05] what's the rationale for changing it? [16:05] I'd assume some combination of entrenched inertia, and "if it ain't broke" [16:06] if they changed it there would be a lot of "omg my computer is broken i can't get back to my desktop" support issues [16:06] well, I just would have thought people would expect the main place for doing things would exist a 1, not 7 [16:06] I think once you've got the hang of TTYs you pretty quickly remember the guis on 7 [16:07] actually, I don't. I always go for 8 first... [16:07] on the other hand, I'd expect anyone who's actually dropping down to a tty to know what/why [16:14] what's the best way to execute a command without user interaction, e.g. create folder mkdir /srv/abc/abc [16:14] i mean through SSH [16:17] cocoa117, nohup? [16:18] popey, ssh test@test..., then what [16:18] oh, you want to run a command on a remote box? [16:19] ssh user@host -e '/bin/bash -c ' [16:19] popey, yes, all i need was copy file to a server using SCP, but then there are sometimes the folder i want to copy to might not exist yet [16:20] I'd use rsync :) [16:20] it will create the folders [16:20] popey, ennn, probably a good idea, never cross my mind, :) [16:21] rsync with ssh, :), i try that [16:29] popey, is there a parameter i need to use with rsync to make sure it create folder if it doesn't exist on the server side? [16:31] cocoa117, look at -R in the man page.. may help [16:33] wouldn't that be '-r'? I use that and rsync creates directories where needed. [16:56] gord, you still use your x220 much or have you moved on? [16:59] popey, en, rsync don't really solve my issue here, the initial login folder need to exist first [17:12] wiiiiiiii! [17:15] Woo! http://qi.com/the-qi-advent-calendar [17:16] popey, yeah i still use it all the time, i tried to replace it with a tablet, but that didn't go well, so i'm still using it [17:16] gord, is yours the i7? [17:17] i3 [17:17] ah [17:18] my x220 purchase was based mostly on "oh crap my laptop just died and there is a sprint just around the corner, what is the cheapest but nice machine i can get" === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [19:34] evening [19:34] evening jacobw2 [19:35] so, only directhex has a launch-day wii u? [19:36] a what now? [19:38] that's a yes, then [19:47] directhex: has a wii on launch-day, Man you need to contain your excitement better [19:56] hi all - can anyone help me? I have an external usb Samsung S2 harddrive which I am trying to get working in Linux so I can wipe it (its come from a windows NTFS system) but Ubuntu wont let me do anything with it - I can see it in the "computer" section but cant actually do anything with it. Can anyone tell me in laymans terms how to get it working? [19:59] andrews, click the dash button, and type "part" - with luck you should have gparted partition editor installed [19:59] andrews, you can use this to reformat any partitions on the drive using the filesystem of your choice [20:01] thanks for this, though sorry for sounding like a plonker, whats the dash button? [20:01] andrews: the one in the top left [20:02] the one with the Ubuntu logo [20:03] ah cheers. found the disk utility - that will do it wont it? [20:04] yeah [20:05] andrews: you can use NTFS with Linux, but it's easier to use filesystem with POSIX permissions like ext4 [20:06] thanks, I want to wipe the drive to back up my imac - as such it wont read the current ntfs system [20:06] so i have to use my ubuntu laptop to wipe the drive [20:07] you probably want FAT32 then, if it's for use with multiple OSes [20:07] note: 4gb maximum size for a single file on FAT32 [20:11] once i can get my mac to see it, i can re-format it again hopefully, though think that my mac has put a Oxaf partition there. [20:11] evening [20:13] evening popey [20:19] I lile how I can order shoes off Amazon [20:19] that way I don't need to go to a shoe shop [20:21] ooh! [20:21] what if they don't fit? [20:21] i didnt know this! [20:21] dwatkins: they will, I have had the same type before :) [20:21] ah good, mgdm - I've noticed even for a given manufacturer, the same numbered size is often quite different. [20:22] I've been wearing this type in this size since I was about 12 [20:22] it's my go-to shoe [20:22] :) [20:23] * popey adds loads of shoes to his wish-list [20:23] hehe [20:24] at the risk of a flaming, anyone going to FOSDEM who does PHP... you have about 4 hours to submit a talk to the PHP devroom... [20:25] which ones, mgdm? [20:27] dwatkins: Adidas Sambas :) [20:27] I like Converse, but I tend to wear trainers mostly. [20:27] Converse last me about 2 months [20:29] http://www.merrell.com/UK/en-GB/Product.mvc.aspx/25951M/59647/Mens/Moab-Waterproof?dimensions=0 === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [22:37] no-one about !