/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/11/30/#ubuntu-za.txt

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Kilosmorning all04:28
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Kiloshi Trix[a]r_za 05:03
Kiloshi jr05:06
Kilosjrgns, 05:06
jrgnsmorning Kilos05:06
superflyMorning Kilos, jrgns05:29
jrgnsmorning mister fly05:29
Kilosmorning superfly 05:29
superflymeh. My stomach is moaning about a lack of food05:39
superflyI'm not even at work yet05:39
Kilosaw so early already05:39
Kiloscarry snacks in your laapy bag05:40
superflyIndeed05:40
Kilosthey have many partitions05:40
Kiloshehe05:40
Kiloscalled pad kos05:40
superflyEat my brekkie on the train? :-P05:40
Kiloswhatever just satisfy tummy05:41
superflyHehehe 05:41
superflyI'll be at work in about 20 minutes, I'll survive05:41
Kiloshehe05:42
Kilosya on train others might wanna share your brekkie05:43
superflyTrain stopped with the door *just* beyond the platform 05:44
Kiloseish05:44
Kilosyou get to practise long jump05:44
superflyA young lady had to make a bit of a jump to get off05:44
Kilosor high jump05:44
Kilosshame05:44
superflyNah, wasn't far05:45
superflyThe edge of the platform was right next to the door05:45
Kilosah05:46
superflyBut it was quite amusing05:46
Kiloslol05:46
superflyObs, salt river, woodstock then cape town, and then just a short walk up to breakfast, i mean, work05:49
Kilosrofl05:49
superflyObs down, on to salt river!05:50
Kiloswith tummy grumbling its not easy to think of anything but food05:50
superflyOh, the entralling tale of a morning train ride05:50
superfly*enthralling05:50
Kiloskeeps ones mind occupied05:51
superflyAnd now we stop halfway between obs and salt river...05:52
superflyKilos: i'm mainly saying this for your amusement :-P05:52
Kiloslol cheeky05:53
superflyalways!05:53
Kilosive already fixed my maverick05:53
superflyOh good.05:54
Kilosya stupid pc hung in the middle of boot repair05:54
superflyAhhh05:54
Kilosso boot part got corrupted05:54
superflyOuch05:54
Kilosi think cpu gets temperamental at times05:55
superflyAnd TaraLS?05:55
Kiloshers still same05:55
superfly-_-05:55
magespawnmorning all05:55
Kilosbeen offered one from cherry computers05:56
magespawnepic train journey05:56
Kilosseems they do upgrading and will send her one from what they get in\05:56
Kiloshi magespawn 05:56
superflymagespawn: scintillating, isn't it?05:56
magespawnthe stuff of legend05:57
Kilosthats what friends do man05:57
Kilosthey share05:57
superflyKilos: that's cool05:57
superflyKilos: i wish I could help more, but i've been extremely busy05:58
Kiloswe know superfly 05:58
magespawnwell better than my step by step uninstall and reinstall of a network printer under 'THAT' os, for about the 10th time05:58
Kiloswe actually worry about you overdoing things05:58
Kilosouch magespawn 05:58
superflymagespawn: eish05:59
superflybtw, magespawn, do you have a pick 'n pay close by?05:59
magespawnof course under linux it always works05:59
magespawnsuperfly: not really05:59
superflyHeh.05:59
superflymagespawn: cool, just wanted to know06:00
superflycape town! Gotta go boys and girls, see you later!06:00
magespawnnearest is mtubatuba about 50km away06:01
magespawndo have a boxer though06:01
Kiloslater superfly 06:01
Kiloshi psydroid 06:06
Kiloshi Squirm 06:17
superflyah, finally06:27
magespawnbreakfast06:28
Kilosfirst bite down?06:28
magespawnand coffee06:28
superflyindeed06:28
Kiloslol06:28
superflybreakfast, now on to the coffee06:28
magespawnMaaz coffee on06:28
* Maaz starts grinding coffee06:28
KilosMaaz, coffee please06:28
MaazKilos: Alrighty06:28
superflymagespawn: what about checkers or shoprite?06:28
KilosMaaz, large06:28
MaazIn a beer mug just for you Kilos06:28
superflyMaaz: coffee please06:28
Maazsuperfly: Yessir06:28
magespawnhave a shoprite06:28
magespawnhes going to tell me why just now lol06:32
MaazCoffee's ready for magespawn, Kilos and superfly!06:32
KilosMaaz, danke06:32
MaazBitteschön06:32
magespawnMaaz botsnack06:32
MaazWhat do you want magespawn Trying to butter me up or something?06:32
magespawnlol06:32
superflymagespawn: FNB is killing us in fees, it's MUCH cheaper to use EasyPay via Pick 'n Pay, Shoprite or Checkers06:33
magespawnto do what? deposit money for airtime06:33
Kiloschecker checkers just up your street06:33
superflymagespawn: ya06:34
Kilosadmin fees06:34
Kilosbanks are very skelm06:34
timkellerG'morning06:34
superflyyo timkeller06:34
Kiloshi timkeller 06:34
magespawnhey timkeller 06:34
timkellerello - how goes it?06:34
Kilosthey charge you to actually accept money into their bank, swines06:35
Kilosgood ty timkeller and you?06:35
timkellerGood ty, very glad its Friday.06:35
Kilosmost peeps are06:36
Kilosthose that work at work and rest at home06:36
timkellerIndeed06:38
KilosMaaz, greet lurkers06:43
MaazHello lurkers, you may voice an opinion now and again you know06:43
inetprouh oh06:48
* inetpro is not a lurker?06:48
inetprogood morning Kilos06:48
Kiloshi inetpro Vince-0 06:48
Vince-0Haai !06:48
Kilosinetpro, maverick fixed on both drives06:48
Vince-0Always quick on the draw06:48
Kilosw000t06:49
Kilosforgot that pc dont boot into bios when battery in06:49
Kilosmusta given nuvo gray hair06:49
inetproKilos: nice!06:52
inetproai06:52
Kilosboth worked on recovery mode with a y to fix it06:52
inetproa y to fix it?06:53
Kilosit runs through recovery then when probs found it states where the prob is and gives options Y being yes to fix it or attempt to06:54
Squirmhi Kilos 06:54
Kilosim sure recovery mode is an fsck07:06
mazalmorning everyone07:42
Kiloshi mazal 07:43
mazalHoe gaanit oom ?07:54
Kilosgoed dankie en self07:54
Kilostestdisk can even change a drives geometry07:54
mazalGoed dankie , niks klagte nie07:54
Kiloscool tool07:54
Kilosmooi07:54
* superfly is generating hype07:57
mazalMorning superfly07:57
superflymorning magespawn07:58
superfly*mazal07:58
superflymeh. tab-complete fail07:58
Kiloshow superfly 07:58
mazalShare 07:58
superflyhttps://www.facebook.com/openlp07:58
Kilosah thats good07:58
superflylast 3 status updates07:59
Kilosnee man i no go fb. but if its openlp thats good07:59
superflyKilos: you don't need to be signed in to Facebook to see the updates08:00
Kilosmazal, sudo aptitude install openlp08:00
Kilosoh08:00
Kilosok i go see08:00
mazalLove what you guys are doing superfly 08:00
magespawnhey superfly morning lol08:01
magespawnhey mazal 08:01
mazalHey magespawn 08:01
Kilosthats the way superfly build the excitement08:03
Kilosmagespawn, heres off topic08:12
Kilosthe smell of frying onion and garlic with a bit of curry powder added is much more exciting than glade air freshener08:13
mazalhmmm , kernel update08:14
mazalGood thing I archived yesterday08:14
Kiloslol08:15
mazalI'm always nervous on those , even though I never had an issue after kernel update08:15
Kilosyou can turn updates off and only do them manually when it suits you08:16
mazalI do08:16
Kilosah08:16
magespawnnice Kilos08:16
magespawncan smell it from here08:16
Kiloshehe08:16
Kilosmakes one just wanna dive in and fill up08:17
mazalSounds like something you can fish with :)08:17
Kiloslol08:19
Kiloshi Superhuman 08:20
mazalgoto reboot08:24
mazalOi , the refusal to shut down problem is back :P08:28
mazalbbl , gonna play some gt508:30
charl_good morning08:31
charl_Maaz: coffee on08:31
* Maaz flips the salt-timer08:31
charl_for anyone who says there are no women in IT: http://youtu.be/mlYjuvTt9mM08:32
Kiloshi charl_ 08:32
charl_hi Kilos ~!08:32
Kiloshey you08:33
Kiloswhy dont you write a testimonial and say why you are here on ubuntu-za08:33
charl_a testimonial?!08:34
charl_:S08:34
Kilosfor our reapproval on the 18th08:34
Kiloswait08:34
charl_you have to apply to be reapproved?08:34
charl_considering ubuntu started in south africa i would be surprised if they close down ubuntu-za :)08:34
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication201208:34
Kilosno man its every 2 years08:35
charl_ah08:35
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_!08:35
Kiloswill look good to have some from outside the country methinks08:36
Kilosdont just ah . do it08:38
charl_are the facebook / mailing list busy?08:38
Kilos?08:38
charl_i see there is a facebook page and a mailing list with unknown number of members08:39
charl_there is no link to any facebook page from http://ubuntu-za.org/08:39
charl_only twitter and g+08:39
Kilosoh my08:39
charl_wow the forums do seem pretty dead08:40
charl_i also see no mention of a mailing list on ubuntu-za.org08:41
Kilosour peeps are very busy08:42
charl_not much interesting on the g+ page either08:42
Kilospoor maia cant keep up with everything08:42
charl_yeah but i think it's better to have a few communication channels than too many08:42
charl_i think 2-3 are more than enough08:42
Kilosi dunno08:44
Kilosthe powers decide08:44
charl_this irc channel is reasonably busy, maybe have either a forum or mailing list in addition to that and the twitter feed08:44
charl_just my suggestion :)08:44
charl_well it's a community :) so the community decides right?08:45
Kilosdoesnt it point to our mailing list?08:47
charl_on http://ubuntu-za.org/get-involved it says "Email: This is our primary communication medium. Join our mailing list"08:50
charl_but no link08:50
charl_ah the link is here: http://ubuntu-za.org/get-support08:50
charl_the two pages are almost identical, they should probably be combined08:50
charl_ah here's the link to facebook too on the same page08:51
charl_personally i would put those links on the left in the main navigation or just above/below it08:51
charl_it's a good site, just not very well organised08:51
Kilostime is the prob methinks08:53
charl_yeah that's understandable08:53
charl_if you want i'm happy to volunteer to improve it08:54
charl_i don't know if i'm allowed though as a non-south-african :)08:54
Kilosyou gotta talk to the pro or fly or maia08:54
charl_ok08:55
Kilosim the greeter bot08:56
charl_haha08:57
inetproKilos, charl_: I don't manage the site, superfly does but he's very busy, but I'm sure he would welcome any help that he could get08:59
Kilosi included you inetpro because you know who does what09:00
inetproKilos: eh09:01
Kilosis it a permissions thing09:01
inetproyou also know09:01
inetproKilos: I guess he would have to assign initial permissions 09:01
Kiloshmmm09:01
Kilosok we wait for superfly 09:02
Kilosive already forgotten what i wanted maverick to do when it gave probs09:04
Kilosin the meantime charl_ write your testimonial why you are part of the top ubuntu community09:14
Kilostop/best/friendliest/etc09:15
charl_wow, 110mbps over 4g in japan http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8486/8230706539_38f18a74ee_o.jpg09:39
charl_very nice09:39
Kiloswhew thats moving09:40
Kilos3g data will disappear fast09:40
charl_yeah i mean that's mobile internet! i have just a little more than half that at home and that's on landline09:41
charl_well, cable anyway09:41
Kiloswhew09:41
charl_how they push so much data over the airwaves is amazing09:41
Kilosyeah09:41
charl_the landline providers will need to move fast with rolling out fibre or they will miss out09:41
charl_and at 41 euros per month - that's less than what i pay for my cable09:43
charl_time to learn japanese :)09:43
Kiloslol09:44
charl_Der Untergang des Abendlandes :)09:44
Kiloskoko ni hon ga arimasu ka09:44
charl_watashi ha hon wo ​​motte inai09:47
Kilosthats all the jap i know man09:50
Kiloswhere is the book09:51
charl_lol09:53
charl_i just (tried) to say i don't have a book09:53
charl_but yeah my japanese is not that great either, although i know a bit09:54
Kilosoh shikaku09:54
Kilosdischalified i think that means09:54
Kilossjoe09:55
Kilosdisqualified09:55
charl_i think it means "square" :)09:55
Kilosaw09:56
Kilosforgot too much09:57
charl_we need to learn Maaz some japanese so he can help :P09:57
Kilosdozo is come here?09:57
charl_i'm not sure exactly, it seems to have a meaning that depends a lot on the context09:58
charl_a bit like "domo"09:58
charl_domo could mean hello, or thank you for example09:59
Kilosoh ya domo arigatoo ty spanne10:00
charl_updates + restart, bbl10:12
mazalib10:46
mazalOk , I added my testimonial10:46
Kilosty mazal 10:47
KilosMaaz, seen maiatoday10:48
MaazKilos: maiatoday was last seen 3 days, 5 hours, 5 minutes and 33 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-11-26 21:43:02 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-11-28 06:24:58 PST10:48
Kilosoh my10:48
KilosMaaz, greet lurkers10:49
MaazHello lurkers, you may voice an opinion now and again you know10:49
mazallol10:51
bakumanOOoo10:56
bakumanlies!10:56
* bakuman is to busy with his beta's10:56
Kiloslo bakuman 11:03
Kilosyou got 16 days11:04
Kilosso no serious rush11:04
Kilosis tumbleweed very busy11:31
* Kilos needs some info11:32
Kilosas in is it lots of work to add debugging script to http://slexy.org/view/s2WXPilgJq11:33
superflyKilos: WAYTTD11:40
Kiloswhew11:41
Kiloswassat11:41
Kilosway to much to do?11:41
superflyMaaz: WAYTTD11:47
Maazsuperfly: WAYTTD is What Are You Trying To Do?11:47
Kilosoh ty. my greeter doesnt greet superfly 11:48
Kilosgreeted only once11:48
Kilosand my channel is kinda expanding to help heres peeps with other probs11:49
Kilosnon ubuntu stuff that bespoils this channel11:49
Kilosand hurts some guys eyes11:50
Kiloshehe11:50
Kilosthe idea is to help with other systems for our people here that get stuck11:51
Squirmhello12:30
Kiloshi Squirm 12:48
Squirmhave one more ICDL exam to pass12:59
Kilosgood lad12:59
magespawnnice Squirm13:15
Kiloseek13:19
Kilosunity 2d shell showed in launcher and didnt open anywhere so i told it quit and launcher disappeaered13:20
Kilosgrrr13:20
Squirmmeh13:37
Squirmpassed them all13:37
Squirmmy lowest mark was MS Access at 81%13:37
magespawnnicd13:37
Squirmjust to add. I've never used access before today13:38
Squirmand even then it was a 10min lesson in access my the IT teacher here :P13:38
Kiloswell done Squirm drinks on you13:38
Kilosgood teacher13:38
Squirmdon't know how worth the certificate is13:38
Squirmbut it will be good to be registered as an ICDL administrator/examiner now13:39
Kilosthey all add up lad13:39
SquirmKilos: I don't know13:39
SquirmI didn't like the exams hey13:40
Squirmwon't be like that in real world use and some bogus question/answer pairs13:40
Kilosno one does but later in life you say thank heavens i didi that13:40
SquirmI swear I got some wrong in previous exams cause I would have provided a better answer than they gave :/13:41
Kilosthe certificates are what count13:41
Kiloslol13:41
Squirmmy boss took a photo of one of my questions. I'll get it and show you13:41
Squirmeven the auditer that came yesterday didn't know what the answer would be :P13:42
magespawnSquirm: is that the ms office ICDL?13:43
Squirmmagespawn: yep13:43
superflySquirm: you know that they say about teachers?13:43
SquirmMS Office, Powerpoint, Access, Excel, Basic concepts of IT, Internet and Email, File Management13:43
Squirmsuperfly: no?13:43
superflyThose who can, do; those who can't, teach.13:44
superflynever seen worse example than those given in exams13:44
Squirmlol13:44
Squirmtrue :P13:44
superflynot only are they completely unrealistic, they're often missing a LOT of information, and are contradictory13:45
superflyor ambiguous13:45
superflyor worse.... both13:45
Squirmthe best exam I've ever done, is the RedHat one13:46
Kiloshi magtie 13:54
magtieHi Kilos13:54
magtieIts Week-end!!!13:54
Squirmno it's not :/13:56
Squirmsuch a bad mood now it's frightening :/13:56
Squirmbbl13:56
Kilosme too bbl go home safe guys14:07
magespawnKilos like a yo-yo14:51
Kiloshehe its this switching pcs to do different thinks that causes it14:52
mazalKilos it sounds like you have a control center there :)14:52
Kiloshehe almost14:54
Kilosif i had more screens and place id have 2 more pcs going14:54
magespawnneed a wireless routerto connect tham all together14:54
magespawni have old screens crt lying around gathering dust14:55
Kilosno then they each need wireless cards14:55
Kilosno man no place either14:55
Kilosyou gotta read everything14:56
Kilosalso i dont think id manage with 4 or even three going14:56
Kilosget mixed up with 2 as it is14:56
magespawnthat is why i said a wireless router so all can have interwebs together14:57
Kiloslol and what the cards for each pc cost15:03
magespawnno you would use cables to link to router then the router has dongle in it15:05
Kilosah15:05
Kilosno man15:05
Kilosi get lost already15:05
Kilosnot an internet cafe this15:06
Kilosonly me15:06
magespawnthen you could use synergy to control all the pc with one keyboard and mouse15:06
Kiloswhen this buncha drives fixed or totally scrapped then i still wanna install server on one pc15:07
Kilosmagespawn, stop it15:07
Kilossjoe15:07
magespawnheadless server with no monitor, keyboard or mouse, controlled through cli via ssh connection on another machine15:08
magespawnif run a lan the pc does not even have to be in the same room, you could put it in the garage15:11
magespawnubuntu very nice for doing this sort of thing15:12
Kilosmaybe if the certificated kid gets over his moods he might be needed to help up there15:17
Kilossounds good that magespawn 15:17
mazalgtg for now15:18
Squirmtgif15:33
Kilosyou get to rest? or to party?15:34
Kilosor to play lotsa squash to flatten the tummy15:35
magespawnyou talking to me Kilkos?15:38
Kilosno Squirm sorry magespawn 15:38
Kilosdo you also need to play squash15:39
Kilosthats for you magespawn 15:39
magespawnno worries was a bit of the line of our conversation15:39
magespawni DO need to do some sort of exercise, typing and leaping to conclusions is not cutting it15:40
Kilosya i forget and was outside locking up sheep for the night etc15:40
SquirmKilos: all of the above15:40
Kiloshahaha @ magespawn 15:40
Kiloswhew Squirm then you tired again on monday15:40
Kilosself inflicted punishment15:41
Squirmit's not punishment being tired15:41
Kilosmaybe take one weekend every two months and sleep it away15:41
Squirmhow boring15:42
Kiloslol15:45
Kilosmagespawn, can you do some thinking for me15:54
Kilos?15:54
Kilosthe 2tb drive wont take ubuntu at all but that other one goes in easy15:54
Kilosi even checked if its not in bios the boot sector virus protection but i cant find it in bios15:55
Kiloslive cd takes hours to even open to try or install15:57
Kiloshi kbmonkey 15:58
Kiloswb15:58
kbmonkeyhi Kilos !15:58
Kiloswhats with the !15:59
Kiloswhats that mean15:59
Kilosoh my15:59
Kiloschased him15:59
magespawnKilos maybe there is some restriction on installing on a 2tb16:03
Kilosfrom ubuntu?16:03
Kilosoh my16:03
Kilosor from the drive peeps16:03
magespawnnot sure let see what i can find16:04
Kilosnot very serious16:04
Kilosbut imho if it cant take ubuntu its bad news16:05
Kiloswould make a lekker data recovery drive16:05
kbmonkeyback16:05
Kiloswb kbmonkey 16:05
kbmonkeyyou have a 2tb drive kilos?16:06
Kilosgot your thinking cap on?16:06
kbmonkeyyes, its underneath my tinfoil hat, friend16:06
Kilosits one i gotta fix for ian kbmonkey 16:06
Kiloslol16:06
Kilosyou got mail16:06
Kilosgreeter.py needs a debug function added16:06
kbmonkeyok :)16:07
Kilosgo ##kilos see if the cow greets you16:07
Kilosoh my16:07
Kilossjoe16:07
Kilosgood connection you have there16:08
Kilosget 8ta16:08
magespawnheres a link that might help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/unable-to-boot-fresh-install-on-2tb-harddrive-debian-ubuntu-838681/16:08
Kilosty magespawn i go see16:08
magespawni did not read all of it but it seems to be on the right track16:09
Kilosi will read it all if it can help ty16:09
Kiloswhew16:21
Kilosyou gotta quick install from xp install cd then make partitions with flags off and one on but here xp doesnt even see the sata16:22
Kilosgrrr16:22
Kilosand live 12.04 and 10.10 take forever just to open cd16:22
Kilosgrrr16:22
magespawnmaybe it is worth the wait16:23
Kilosmaybe ill try my unity as first drive and gparted the 2tb smaller then try16:23
Kiloscan try being more patient too i spose but so used to live cd open chop chop16:24
kbmonkeylol16:25
Kilosbeen spoiled with things just working16:25
Kilosthe 2 tb was dead kbmonkey 16:26
Kilosvirii killed it16:26
kbmonkeysurely not dead physically16:26
Kilosdont ask how i got it going i did 100 things16:26
kbmonkeyyou mean corrupted?16:26
Kilosbios didnt see it even16:26
kbmonkeyyikes16:27
Kilosyeah mbr and everything was messed16:27
kbmonkeysnafu16:27
Kiloshuh?16:27
Kilosyou okes and your funny things16:27
Kiloslike they fly with wayttd thing16:28
Kilossjoe16:28
kbmonkeyits actually u.s. military slang :o16:29
Kiloslol16:29
Kiloslazy swines16:29
kbmonkeysituation normal all fouled up16:29
kbmonkeyas in, everything is going haywire, but that is normal around here ;)16:30
Kiloshehe16:30
kbmonkeywell using radio codes you had to abbreviate a lot of what was said16:30
Kilosoh ya but then i was young and sexy16:31
Kilosnow just sexy16:31
kbmonkeyi bet you were!16:32
kbmonkeyha ha16:32
kbmonkeyhey you can't have the best of both worlds, eh? 16:32
Kilosoh kbmonkey if you look in ibid you might see how they did the other auto debug stuff and get the gist of it16:33
Kilosmy bot greeted once only and never again16:34
Kilosstupid cow16:34
kbmonkeywell, how did you test that, oom?16:34
Kilosi put the greeter in an ibid folder in home16:36
Kiloscoutesy of the fly16:36
Kiloscourtesy16:36
Kilosthen she greeted the first oke in and never again16:36
Kilosyou can go see her on ##kilos16:37
kbmonkeygeek meet tomorrow magespawn :)16:42
magespawnyeah i know unfortunately i am working :(16:42
kbmonkeydarn :(16:43
magespawnearlish morning and late afternoon game drive16:44
kbmonkeyI'll be playing supertuxkart, also a game drive ;)16:47
magespawnand the thing is i have to come down to durban soonish to get stock16:49
kbmonkeybut that will be next week some time?16:49
magespawnnot sure trying to juggle the work and family time etc16:50
magespawni am out of here for now, on my way home, see y'all later maybe16:52
inetproKilos: don't you go start accusing ubuntu of all your limitations!16:52
Kilosoh my16:52
Kilosi didnt did i?16:52
inetproKilos: 2tb drive not working on ubuntu 16:53
Kilosdid you read nicely or just skim inetpro 16:53
Kilosi didnt accuse man i asked for help to get ubuntu to install on it16:54
inetprowith all the chatter how can I read all the detail? Kilos, you talk to much. :-)16:54
kbmonkeyat leasy Kilos claims Ubuntu is making him more sexy16:54
Kiloslol16:54
inetprogood evening boyz and girlz16:54
Kilosi installed 12.04 kde on a 500gB drive today in 25 mins16:55
Symmetria 6:53PM  up 1555 days,  9:12, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.0016:55
kbmonkeyhi inetpro 16:55
Symmetriaheh16:55
Symmetriadamn, that box needs patching and upgrading or something :p16:55
Symmetriabut I have a feeling if I ever reboot it, it may never start again16:55
kbmonkeywow!16:55
Symmetriaheh, brb, rebooting my desktop (which isnt that one haha)16:56
Kilosinetpro, are you juststirring the pot again?16:58
inetproKilos: obviously16:58
inetprolunch bar16:58
Kilosswine16:58
Kiloshad me there16:58
Kilosi go eat quikish16:59
kbmonkeyoops16:59
Kiloswhat kbmonkey 16:59
kbmonkeyyeah im about to go make burgers16:59
Kiloshehe16:59
kbmonkeyI accidentally logged out :p16:59
kbmonkeyhehe16:59
inetpro30/11 18:03:03 <magespawn> Kilos maybe there is some restriction on installing on a 2tb16:59
inetpro30/11 18:03:30 <Kilos> from ubuntu?16:59
inetpro30/11 18:03:34 <Kilos> oh my16:59
inetproKilos: ^^16:59
inetprokbmonkey: wb17:00
* inetpro getting home made burgers this evening17:00
inetprosmelling very very nice as I sit here17:01
kbmonkeyhmmmmm. you make me hungry inetpro 17:02
kbmonkeytrying to update the system so I can kick off my supertuxkart build 17:03
* inetpro wbbl17:03
kbmonkeybut the net, she is not happy17:03
Kiloslol at inetpro 17:19
Kilosjy tender vir n hout overall17:19
Kilossuperfly, why dont you protect me17:24
Kilosim old you know17:24
Kilosnote the pro left out <Kilos> or from the drive peeps17:26
Kilosjou beurt is jou beurt17:26
superflyKilos: from what?17:27
Kiloshe keeps attacking me17:27
Kilosjust reads what he wants to read17:28
Kilos<inetpro> Kilos: don't you go start accusing ubuntu of all your limitations!17:28
Kilosthe cheeky swine17:44
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Kilosmy limitations are 17:45
Kilosum17:45
Kilosjudged by my friends limitations17:45
Kilosjudged/governed17:46
Kiloshi charl_ 18:36
charl_hi Kilos :)18:36
Kilosnight all.sleep tight18:45
inetproai18:54
* inetpro is in die dogbox18:54
inetproMaaz: tell Kilos Sorry Oom!18:55
Maazinetpro: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode18:55
inetprohmm...18:57
inetprosuperfly: waar's jou vrou heen?18:57
superflyinetpro: running after children18:58
inetprooi18:58
inetproshe caused the netsplit?18:59
inetprotell her to stop running 18:59
inetprowb mrs_fly19:03
* smile4ever hugs superfly and inetpro19:06
smile4ever:)19:06
inetproehlo smile4ever19:08
inetprojust keep smiling19:08
smile4everyeah :)19:08
smile4evereven if you have loads of work to do19:08
inetprohugs or not my thing19:08
* inetpro smells burnt food 19:09
inetpronot anywhere in my house though19:10
inetpromust be neighbors 19:11
Symmetriahrm19:13
Symmetriasup19:13
* Symmetria is trying to remeber how to write code :P LOL its been far 2 long since I had to actually write anything vaguely complicated19:13
Squirmawe, Symmetria is getting old19:17
kbmonkeyhello again19:17
kbmonkeyoh kilos has left19:18
kbmonkeyhow is the homework smile4ever 19:18
Symmetriaheh Im trying to figure out how best to design a database to store bgp changes19:19
Symmetriaso that I can analyze them afterwards over a period of time doing a playback19:19
Symmetriaand since my db design skills are well, non-existant :p19:19
Symmetriaand this is going to be a shockingly huge database within a few days :P19:19
smile4everkbmonkey: it's going well :) but no homework, just studying :p19:19
smile4everbut it's almost the same :p19:19
SquirmSymmetria: that's what MS Access is for19:20
Symmetriasquirm errr no19:20
Symmetriaand especially not for what I need :p19:20
Squirmexcept it's an already made, badly designed database19:20
Squirmno point reinventing the wheel19:20
Symmetriaheh, initially, this thing is going to receive approx. 450 thousand records19:20
Trixar_zaAlso minus 100000000000 points for mentioning it19:20
Symmetriathen I need it to log every update that comes in, with a time stamp 19:21
Symmetriaas well as figure out if something NEW is coming in, or if its updating something already there19:21
Symmetriaand records can come in at a rate of a few thousand a second19:21
Symmetriaso its gonna need to be sick fast19:21
SquirmTrixar_za: mentioning that it's a badly designed database and will crash when used? just like the one Symmetria was going to create himself?19:21
Trixar_zaOh yeah19:21
Squirmopen your eyes buddy :P19:22
Trixar_zaYeah, that's MS Access for you19:22
* Squirm shoves the 100000000000 points down Trixar_za's throat19:22
Trixar_zaActually that's MS to a nutshell19:22
Symmetriaheh squirm I plan to use mysql for this database19:22
Squirms/to/in19:22
Symmetriaits the actual database schematic that I dont know how to design properly19:22
Symmetria:p19:22
Symmetriacant just shove records in one after another here, thing will grow 2 fast and the indexing wont keep up19:23
SquirmSymmetria: why not record to ram, then start storing entries every now and again?19:23
Symmetriasquirm well, thats a potential option but its gonna chew one HELL of a lot of ram if I do that19:23
smile4ever:) http://primes.utm.edu/top20/page.php?id=3019:23
smile4evera bit maths for all ;)19:24
SquirmSymmetria: it will give you the speed you need19:24
Squirmbut say, write changes when 1000 entries are made?19:24
Trixar_zaShould I be worried that Symmetria's habit is hacking and breaking things?19:24
Symmetriaheh, 450 thousand addresses, 450 thousand asn's, upwards of 3 million communities, and 23 million total paths 19:24
Trixar_zahabit == hobby*19:24
Symmetriasquirm hahaha what do I hack and break :p19:25
SquirmSymmetria: I don't know. as Trixar_za :/19:25
Squirmesn for example19:25
Squirmthey can't bond our lines :/19:25
Symmetriaheh sorry I meant to ask Trixar_za that19:25
Trixar_zaSQL, IP, etc19:25
Squirms/as/ask19:25
Symmetriaheh, well, the storage of the actual addresses in the db is easy, store them numerically (obviously)19:26
Symmetriatechnically the addresses will be 32bit u_int's, the asn's will be 32bit u_ints as well, the communities will be 64bit or 128bit dependant19:27
smile4everbyee! :p19:36
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hubxhi there20:04
hubxwho is going to rhok tomorrow?20:04
inetproSymmetria: and how much would you be willing to pay for such a solution?20:22
inetproperhaps somebody might be willing to help if there's an incentive20:24
inetproset a price and let people compete, best solution gets the moneys20:27
inetprowith the prerequisite that it must be open source20:28
inetprowb Vince-020:56
inetprohow's the weather down in Cape Town this evening?21:00
tumbleweedwiindy21:02
inetprowb tumbleweed21:02
tumbleweedinetpro: haven't gone anywhere, I promise :)21:03
* inetpro earlier in the news of this evening noticed the South Easter having done it's job 21:03
inetprotumbleweed: well you have been very quiet lately21:04
tumbleweedtrue21:04
inetprolike you were out of the country21:04
tumbleweednaah, last time I was away was UDS21:08
inetprook21:08
inetprotumbleweed: so what keeps you so busy then?21:08
tumbleweedit's a good question21:08
tumbleweedI'm not too sure what the answer is :P21:08
inetprolol21:09
tumbleweedtoo many TV series probably21:09
inetprook ok, take it easy 21:09
tumbleweedthat seems to have been what I've been doing when I get home, for the last while21:09
inetproeveryone needs a bit of a break at times21:09
tumbleweed:)21:09
tumbleweedbut I just said I'd look at a package, so let me do that...21:10
inetprotumbleweed: you mean the one called openlp?21:11
superflyinetpro: nope21:11
inetproahh21:11
superflyinetpro: not yet21:11
tumbleweedno, virtualenv for barry21:11
inetprowas just wondering21:11
superflyinetpro: though tumbleweed is kind enough to put up with me and my package every now and then21:12
superflytumbleweed: I will have a new version, we're releasing 2.0 this weekend :-)21:12
tumbleweed\o/21:13
superflybut right now I have other things to worry about21:13
inetprosuperfly: good luck21:14
superflythanks, inetpro21:14
smile:-D21:36
smileHi all :p who is not asleep yet? :-P21:38
* superfly is in the middle of a huge site upgrade21:40
smile:-P21:42
inetprosmile: sup?21:47
smileSup?21:48
inetprosmile: what's up doc?21:48
inetproMaaz: define sup21:49
Maazinetpro: Sup \Sup\, v. i. [See {Supper}.] To eat the evening meal; to take supper. [1913 Webster]  I do entreat that we may sup together.   --Shak. [1913 Webster], Sup \Sup\, v. t. To treat with supper. [Obs.] [1913 Webster]  Sup them well and look unto them all.    --Shak. [1913 Webster], Sup \Sup\ (s[u^]p), v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Supped}; p. pr. & vb. n.21:49
Maaz{Supping}.] [OE. soupen to drink, AS. s[=u]pan; akin to D. zuipen, G. saufen, OHG. s[=u]fan, Icel. …21:49
inetprohmm...21:49
inetproMaaz: sup is a contraction of the phrase "what's up?"21:50
Maazinetpro: I already know stuff about sup21:50
inetproMaaz: sup21:50
* Maaz waves to inetpro21:50
inetproai21:50
smileI am fine. You too?21:56
magespawnevening all21:58
magespawnlooks like insominia is here21:59
magespawnMaaz, sup22:01
MaazHowzit magespawn22:01
magespawnsee it works22:01
magespawnlol22:01
superflymagespawn: I think I'd handle it better if I really had insomnia22:04
magespawnindeed22:04
magespawnglass of warm milk cures that22:05
magespawnhow cool is this http://news.discovery.com/tech/dna-legos-build-a-mini-space-shuttle-121130.html#mkcpgn=rssnws122:13
smileIs er al snow in suid-afrika?22:22
smile:-P22:22
smileBye :-)22:39

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