[04:28] <Kilos> morning all
[05:03] <Kilos> hi Trix[a]r_za 
[05:06] <Kilos> hi jr
[05:06] <Kilos> jrgns, 
[05:06] <jrgns> morning Kilos
[05:29] <superfly> Morning Kilos, jrgns
[05:29] <jrgns> morning mister fly
[05:29] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[05:39] <superfly> meh. My stomach is moaning about a lack of food
[05:39] <superfly> I'm not even at work yet
[05:39] <Kilos> aw so early already
[05:40] <Kilos> carry snacks in your laapy bag
[05:40] <superfly> Indeed
[05:40] <Kilos> they have many partitions
[05:40] <Kilos> hehe
[05:40] <Kilos> called pad kos
[05:40] <superfly> Eat my brekkie on the train? :-P
[05:41] <Kilos> whatever just satisfy tummy
[05:41] <superfly> Hehehe 
[05:41] <superfly> I'll be at work in about 20 minutes, I'll survive
[05:42] <Kilos> hehe
[05:43] <Kilos> ya on train others might wanna share your brekkie
[05:44] <superfly> Train stopped with the door *just* beyond the platform 
[05:44] <Kilos> eish
[05:44] <Kilos> you get to practise long jump
[05:44] <superfly> A young lady had to make a bit of a jump to get off
[05:44] <Kilos> or high jump
[05:44] <Kilos> shame
[05:45] <superfly> Nah, wasn't far
[05:45] <superfly> The edge of the platform was right next to the door
[05:46] <Kilos> ah
[05:46] <superfly> But it was quite amusing
[05:46] <Kilos> lol
[05:49] <superfly> Obs, salt river, woodstock then cape town, and then just a short walk up to breakfast, i mean, work
[05:49] <Kilos> rofl
[05:50] <superfly> Obs down, on to salt river!
[05:50] <Kilos> with tummy grumbling its not easy to think of anything but food
[05:50] <superfly> Oh, the entralling tale of a morning train ride
[05:50] <superfly> *enthralling
[05:51] <Kilos> keeps ones mind occupied
[05:52] <superfly> And now we stop halfway between obs and salt river...
[05:52] <superfly> Kilos: i'm mainly saying this for your amusement :-P
[05:53] <Kilos> lol cheeky
[05:53] <superfly> always!
[05:53] <Kilos> ive already fixed my maverick
[05:54] <superfly> Oh good.
[05:54] <Kilos> ya stupid pc hung in the middle of boot repair
[05:54] <superfly> Ahhh
[05:54] <Kilos> so boot part got corrupted
[05:54] <superfly> Ouch
[05:55] <Kilos> i think cpu gets temperamental at times
[05:55] <superfly> And TaraLS?
[05:55] <Kilos> hers still same
[05:55] <superfly> -_-
[05:55] <magespawn> morning all
[05:56] <Kilos> been offered one from cherry computers
[05:56] <magespawn> epic train journey
[05:56] <Kilos> seems they do upgrading and will send her one from what they get in\
[05:56] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[05:56] <superfly> magespawn: scintillating, isn't it?
[05:57] <magespawn> the stuff of legend
[05:57] <Kilos> thats what friends do man
[05:57] <Kilos> they share
[05:57] <superfly> Kilos: that's cool
[05:58] <superfly> Kilos: i wish I could help more, but i've been extremely busy
[05:58] <Kilos> we know superfly 
[05:58] <magespawn> well better than my step by step uninstall and reinstall of a network printer under 'THAT' os, for about the 10th time
[05:58] <Kilos> we actually worry about you overdoing things
[05:58] <Kilos> ouch magespawn 
[05:59] <superfly> magespawn: eish
[05:59] <superfly> btw, magespawn, do you have a pick 'n pay close by?
[05:59] <magespawn> of course under linux it always works
[05:59] <magespawn> superfly: not really
[05:59] <superfly> Heh.
[06:00] <superfly> magespawn: cool, just wanted to know
[06:00] <superfly> cape town! Gotta go boys and girls, see you later!
[06:01] <magespawn> nearest is mtubatuba about 50km away
[06:01] <magespawn> do have a boxer though
[06:01] <Kilos> later superfly 
[06:06] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[06:17] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[06:27] <superfly> ah, finally
[06:28] <magespawn> breakfast
[06:28] <Kilos> first bite down?
[06:28] <magespawn> and coffee
[06:28] <superfly> indeed
[06:28] <Kilos> lol
[06:28] <superfly> breakfast, now on to the coffee
[06:28] <magespawn> Maaz coffee on
[06:28]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[06:28] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[06:28] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[06:28] <superfly> magespawn: what about checkers or shoprite?
[06:28] <Kilos> Maaz, large
[06:28] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Kilos
[06:28] <superfly> Maaz: coffee please
[06:28] <Maaz> superfly: Yessir
[06:28] <magespawn> have a shoprite
[06:32] <magespawn> hes going to tell me why just now lol
[06:32] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for magespawn, Kilos and superfly!
[06:32] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[06:32] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[06:32] <magespawn> Maaz botsnack
[06:32] <Maaz> What do you want magespawn Trying to butter me up or something?
[06:32] <magespawn> lol
[06:33] <superfly> magespawn: FNB is killing us in fees, it's MUCH cheaper to use EasyPay via Pick 'n Pay, Shoprite or Checkers
[06:33] <magespawn> to do what? deposit money for airtime
[06:33] <Kilos> checker checkers just up your street
[06:34] <superfly> magespawn: ya
[06:34] <Kilos> admin fees
[06:34] <Kilos> banks are very skelm
[06:34] <timkeller> G'morning
[06:34] <superfly> yo timkeller
[06:34] <Kilos> hi timkeller 
[06:34] <magespawn> hey timkeller 
[06:34] <timkeller> ello - how goes it?
[06:35] <Kilos> they charge you to actually accept money into their bank, swines
[06:35] <Kilos> good ty timkeller and you?
[06:35] <timkeller> Good ty, very glad its Friday.
[06:36] <Kilos> most peeps are
[06:36] <Kilos> those that work at work and rest at home
[06:38] <timkeller> Indeed
[06:43] <Kilos> Maaz, greet lurkers
[06:43] <Maaz> Hello lurkers, you may voice an opinion now and again you know
[06:48] <inetpro> uh oh
[06:48]  * inetpro is not a lurker?
[06:48] <inetpro> good morning Kilos
[06:48] <Kilos> hi inetpro Vince-0 
[06:48] <Vince-0> Haai !
[06:48] <Kilos> inetpro, maverick fixed on both drives
[06:48] <Vince-0> Always quick on the draw
[06:49] <Kilos> w000t
[06:49] <Kilos> forgot that pc dont boot into bios when battery in
[06:49] <Kilos> musta given nuvo gray hair
[06:52] <inetpro> Kilos: nice!
[06:52] <inetpro> ai
[06:52] <Kilos> both worked on recovery mode with a y to fix it
[06:53] <inetpro> a y to fix it?
[06:54] <Kilos> it runs through recovery then when probs found it states where the prob is and gives options Y being yes to fix it or attempt to
[06:54] <Squirm> hi Kilos 
[07:06] <Kilos> im sure recovery mode is an fsck
[07:42] <mazal> morning everyone
[07:43] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[07:54] <mazal> Hoe gaanit oom ?
[07:54] <Kilos> goed dankie en self
[07:54] <Kilos> testdisk can even change a drives geometry
[07:54] <mazal> Goed dankie , niks klagte nie
[07:54] <Kilos> cool tool
[07:54] <Kilos> mooi
[07:57]  * superfly is generating hype
[07:57] <mazal> Morning superfly
[07:58] <superfly> morning magespawn
[07:58] <superfly> *mazal
[07:58] <superfly> meh. tab-complete fail
[07:58] <Kilos> how superfly 
[07:58] <mazal> Share 
[07:58] <superfly> https://www.facebook.com/openlp
[07:58] <Kilos> ah thats good
[07:59] <superfly> last 3 status updates
[07:59] <Kilos> nee man i no go fb. but if its openlp thats good
[08:00] <superfly> Kilos: you don't need to be signed in to Facebook to see the updates
[08:00] <Kilos> mazal, sudo aptitude install openlp
[08:00] <Kilos> oh
[08:00] <Kilos> ok i go see
[08:00] <mazal> Love what you guys are doing superfly 
[08:01] <magespawn> hey superfly morning lol
[08:01] <magespawn> hey mazal 
[08:01] <mazal> Hey magespawn 
[08:03] <Kilos> thats the way superfly build the excitement
[08:12] <Kilos> magespawn, heres off topic
[08:13] <Kilos> the smell of frying onion and garlic with a bit of curry powder added is much more exciting than glade air freshener
[08:14] <mazal> hmmm , kernel update
[08:14] <mazal> Good thing I archived yesterday
[08:15] <Kilos> lol
[08:15] <mazal> I'm always nervous on those , even though I never had an issue after kernel update
[08:16] <Kilos> you can turn updates off and only do them manually when it suits you
[08:16] <mazal> I do
[08:16] <Kilos> ah
[08:16] <magespawn> nice Kilos
[08:16] <magespawn> can smell it from here
[08:16] <Kilos> hehe
[08:17] <Kilos> makes one just wanna dive in and fill up
[08:17] <mazal> Sounds like something you can fish with :)
[08:19] <Kilos> lol
[08:20] <Kilos> hi Superhuman 
[08:24] <mazal> goto reboot
[08:28] <mazal> Oi , the refusal to shut down problem is back :P
[08:30] <mazal> bbl , gonna play some gt5
[08:31] <charl_> good morning
[08:31] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[08:31]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[08:32] <charl_> for anyone who says there are no women in IT: http://youtu.be/mlYjuvTt9mM
[08:32] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[08:32] <charl_> hi Kilos ~!
[08:33] <Kilos> hey you
[08:33] <Kilos> why dont you write a testimonial and say why you are here on ubuntu-za
[08:34] <charl_> a testimonial?!
[08:34] <charl_> :S
[08:34] <Kilos> for our reapproval on the 18th
[08:34] <Kilos> wait
[08:34] <charl_> you have to apply to be reapproved?
[08:34] <charl_> considering ubuntu started in south africa i would be surprised if they close down ubuntu-za :)
[08:34] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[08:35] <Kilos> no man its every 2 years
[08:35] <charl_> ah
[08:35] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[08:36] <Kilos> will look good to have some from outside the country methinks
[08:38] <Kilos> dont just ah . do it
[08:38] <charl_> are the facebook / mailing list busy?
[08:38] <Kilos> ?
[08:39] <charl_> i see there is a facebook page and a mailing list with unknown number of members
[08:39] <charl_> there is no link to any facebook page from http://ubuntu-za.org/
[08:39] <charl_> only twitter and g+
[08:39] <Kilos> oh my
[08:40] <charl_> wow the forums do seem pretty dead
[08:41] <charl_> i also see no mention of a mailing list on ubuntu-za.org
[08:42] <Kilos> our peeps are very busy
[08:42] <charl_> not much interesting on the g+ page either
[08:42] <Kilos> poor maia cant keep up with everything
[08:42] <charl_> yeah but i think it's better to have a few communication channels than too many
[08:42] <charl_> i think 2-3 are more than enough
[08:44] <Kilos> i dunno
[08:44] <Kilos> the powers decide
[08:44] <charl_> this irc channel is reasonably busy, maybe have either a forum or mailing list in addition to that and the twitter feed
[08:44] <charl_> just my suggestion :)
[08:45] <charl_> well it's a community :) so the community decides right?
[08:47] <Kilos> doesnt it point to our mailing list?
[08:50] <charl_> on http://ubuntu-za.org/get-involved it says "Email: This is our primary communication medium. Join our mailing list"
[08:50] <charl_> but no link
[08:50] <charl_> ah the link is here: http://ubuntu-za.org/get-support
[08:50] <charl_> the two pages are almost identical, they should probably be combined
[08:51] <charl_> ah here's the link to facebook too on the same page
[08:51] <charl_> personally i would put those links on the left in the main navigation or just above/below it
[08:51] <charl_> it's a good site, just not very well organised
[08:53] <Kilos> time is the prob methinks
[08:53] <charl_> yeah that's understandable
[08:54] <charl_> if you want i'm happy to volunteer to improve it
[08:54] <charl_> i don't know if i'm allowed though as a non-south-african :)
[08:54] <Kilos> you gotta talk to the pro or fly or maia
[08:55] <charl_> ok
[08:56] <Kilos> im the greeter bot
[08:57] <charl_> haha
[08:59] <inetpro> Kilos, charl_: I don't manage the site, superfly does but he's very busy, but I'm sure he would welcome any help that he could get
[09:00] <Kilos> i included you inetpro because you know who does what
[09:01] <inetpro> Kilos: eh
[09:01] <Kilos> is it a permissions thing
[09:01] <inetpro> you also know
[09:01] <inetpro> Kilos: I guess he would have to assign initial permissions 
[09:01] <Kilos> hmmm
[09:02] <Kilos> ok we wait for superfly 
[09:04] <Kilos> ive already forgotten what i wanted maverick to do when it gave probs
[09:14] <Kilos> in the meantime charl_ write your testimonial why you are part of the top ubuntu community
[09:15] <Kilos> top/best/friendliest/etc
[09:39] <charl_> wow, 110mbps over 4g in japan http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8486/8230706539_38f18a74ee_o.jpg
[09:39] <charl_> very nice
[09:40] <Kilos> whew thats moving
[09:40] <Kilos> 3g data will disappear fast
[09:41] <charl_> yeah i mean that's mobile internet! i have just a little more than half that at home and that's on landline
[09:41] <charl_> well, cable anyway
[09:41] <Kilos> whew
[09:41] <charl_> how they push so much data over the airwaves is amazing
[09:41] <Kilos> yeah
[09:41] <charl_> the landline providers will need to move fast with rolling out fibre or they will miss out
[09:43] <charl_> and at 41 euros per month - that's less than what i pay for my cable
[09:43] <charl_> time to learn japanese :)
[09:44] <Kilos> lol
[09:44] <charl_> Der Untergang des Abendlandes :)
[09:44] <Kilos> koko ni hon ga arimasu ka
[09:47] <charl_> watashi ha hon wo ​​motte inai
[09:50] <Kilos> thats all the jap i know man
[09:51] <Kilos> where is the book
[09:53] <charl_> lol
[09:53] <charl_> i just (tried) to say i don't have a book
[09:54] <charl_> but yeah my japanese is not that great either, although i know a bit
[09:54] <Kilos> oh shikaku
[09:54] <Kilos> dischalified i think that means
[09:55] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:55] <Kilos> disqualified
[09:55] <charl_> i think it means "square" :)
[09:56] <Kilos> aw
[09:57] <Kilos> forgot too much
[09:57] <charl_> we need to learn Maaz some japanese so he can help :P
[09:57] <Kilos> dozo is come here?
[09:58] <charl_> i'm not sure exactly, it seems to have a meaning that depends a lot on the context
[09:58] <charl_> a bit like "domo"
[09:59] <charl_> domo could mean hello, or thank you for example
[10:00] <Kilos> oh ya domo arigatoo ty spanne
[10:12] <charl_> updates + restart, bbl
[10:46] <mazal> ib
[10:46] <mazal> Ok , I added my testimonial
[10:47] <Kilos> ty mazal 
[10:48] <Kilos> Maaz, seen maiatoday
[10:48] <Maaz> Kilos: maiatoday was last seen 3 days, 5 hours, 5 minutes and 33 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-11-26 21:43:02 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-11-28 06:24:58 PST
[10:48] <Kilos> oh my
[10:49] <Kilos> Maaz, greet lurkers
[10:49] <Maaz> Hello lurkers, you may voice an opinion now and again you know
[10:51] <mazal> lol
[10:56] <bakuman> OOoo
[10:56] <bakuman> lies!
[10:56]  * bakuman is to busy with his beta's
[11:03] <Kilos> lo bakuman 
[11:04] <Kilos> you got 16 days
[11:04] <Kilos> so no serious rush
[11:31] <Kilos> is tumbleweed very busy
[11:32]  * Kilos needs some info
[11:33] <Kilos> as in is it lots of work to add debugging script to http://slexy.org/view/s2WXPilgJq
[11:40] <superfly> Kilos: WAYTTD
[11:41] <Kilos> whew
[11:41] <Kilos> wassat
[11:41] <Kilos> way to much to do?
[11:47] <superfly> Maaz: WAYTTD
[11:47] <Maaz> superfly: WAYTTD is What Are You Trying To Do?
[11:48] <Kilos> oh ty. my greeter doesnt greet superfly 
[11:48] <Kilos> greeted only once
[11:49] <Kilos> and my channel is kinda expanding to help heres peeps with other probs
[11:49] <Kilos> non ubuntu stuff that bespoils this channel
[11:50] <Kilos> and hurts some guys eyes
[11:50] <Kilos> hehe
[11:51] <Kilos> the idea is to help with other systems for our people here that get stuck
[12:30] <Squirm> hello
[12:48] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[12:59] <Squirm> have one more ICDL exam to pass
[12:59] <Kilos> good lad
[13:15] <magespawn> nice Squirm
[13:19] <Kilos> eek
[13:20] <Kilos> unity 2d shell showed in launcher and didnt open anywhere so i told it quit and launcher disappeaered
[13:20] <Kilos> grrr
[13:37] <Squirm> meh
[13:37] <Squirm> passed them all
[13:37] <Squirm> my lowest mark was MS Access at 81%
[13:37] <magespawn> nicd
[13:38] <Squirm> just to add. I've never used access before today
[13:38] <Squirm> and even then it was a 10min lesson in access my the IT teacher here :P
[13:38] <Kilos> well done Squirm drinks on you
[13:38] <Kilos> good teacher
[13:38] <Squirm> don't know how worth the certificate is
[13:39] <Squirm> but it will be good to be registered as an ICDL administrator/examiner now
[13:39] <Kilos> they all add up lad
[13:39] <Squirm> Kilos: I don't know
[13:40] <Squirm> I didn't like the exams hey
[13:40] <Squirm> won't be like that in real world use and some bogus question/answer pairs
[13:40] <Kilos> no one does but later in life you say thank heavens i didi that
[13:41] <Squirm> I swear I got some wrong in previous exams cause I would have provided a better answer than they gave :/
[13:41] <Kilos> the certificates are what count
[13:41] <Kilos> lol
[13:41] <Squirm> my boss took a photo of one of my questions. I'll get it and show you
[13:42] <Squirm> even the auditer that came yesterday didn't know what the answer would be :P
[13:43] <magespawn> Squirm: is that the ms office ICDL?
[13:43] <Squirm> magespawn: yep
[13:43] <superfly> Squirm: you know that they say about teachers?
[13:43] <Squirm> MS Office, Powerpoint, Access, Excel, Basic concepts of IT, Internet and Email, File Management
[13:43] <Squirm> superfly: no?
[13:44] <superfly> Those who can, do; those who can't, teach.
[13:44] <superfly> never seen worse example than those given in exams
[13:44] <Squirm> lol
[13:44] <Squirm> true :P
[13:45] <superfly> not only are they completely unrealistic, they're often missing a LOT of information, and are contradictory
[13:45] <superfly> or ambiguous
[13:45] <superfly> or worse.... both
[13:46] <Squirm> the best exam I've ever done, is the RedHat one
[13:54] <Kilos> hi magtie 
[13:54] <magtie> Hi Kilos
[13:54] <magtie> Its Week-end!!!
[13:56] <Squirm> no it's not :/
[13:56] <Squirm> such a bad mood now it's frightening :/
[13:56] <Squirm> bbl
[14:07] <Kilos> me too bbl go home safe guys
[14:51] <magespawn> Kilos like a yo-yo
[14:52] <Kilos> hehe its this switching pcs to do different thinks that causes it
[14:52] <mazal> Kilos it sounds like you have a control center there :)
[14:54] <Kilos> hehe almost
[14:54] <Kilos> if i had more screens and place id have 2 more pcs going
[14:54] <magespawn> need a wireless routerto connect tham all together
[14:55] <magespawn> i have old screens crt lying around gathering dust
[14:55] <Kilos> no then they each need wireless cards
[14:55] <Kilos> no man no place either
[14:56] <Kilos> you gotta read everything
[14:56] <Kilos> also i dont think id manage with 4 or even three going
[14:56] <Kilos> get mixed up with 2 as it is
[14:57] <magespawn> that is why i said a wireless router so all can have interwebs together
[15:03] <Kilos> lol and what the cards for each pc cost
[15:05] <magespawn> no you would use cables to link to router then the router has dongle in it
[15:05] <Kilos> ah
[15:05] <Kilos> no man
[15:05] <Kilos> i get lost already
[15:06] <Kilos> not an internet cafe this
[15:06] <Kilos> only me
[15:06] <magespawn> then you could use synergy to control all the pc with one keyboard and mouse
[15:07] <Kilos> when this buncha drives fixed or totally scrapped then i still wanna install server on one pc
[15:07] <Kilos> magespawn, stop it
[15:07] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:08] <magespawn> headless server with no monitor, keyboard or mouse, controlled through cli via ssh connection on another machine
[15:11] <magespawn> if run a lan the pc does not even have to be in the same room, you could put it in the garage
[15:12] <magespawn> ubuntu very nice for doing this sort of thing
[15:17] <Kilos> maybe if the certificated kid gets over his moods he might be needed to help up there
[15:17] <Kilos> sounds good that magespawn 
[15:18] <mazal> gtg for now
[15:33] <Squirm> tgif
[15:34] <Kilos> you get to rest? or to party?
[15:35] <Kilos> or to play lotsa squash to flatten the tummy
[15:38] <magespawn> you talking to me Kilkos?
[15:38] <Kilos> no Squirm sorry magespawn 
[15:39] <Kilos> do you also need to play squash
[15:39] <Kilos> thats for you magespawn 
[15:39] <magespawn> no worries was a bit of the line of our conversation
[15:40] <magespawn> i DO need to do some sort of exercise, typing and leaping to conclusions is not cutting it
[15:40] <Kilos> ya i forget and was outside locking up sheep for the night etc
[15:40] <Squirm> Kilos: all of the above
[15:40] <Kilos> hahaha @ magespawn 
[15:40] <Kilos> whew Squirm then you tired again on monday
[15:41] <Kilos> self inflicted punishment
[15:41] <Squirm> it's not punishment being tired
[15:41] <Kilos> maybe take one weekend every two months and sleep it away
[15:42] <Squirm> how boring
[15:45] <Kilos> lol
[15:54] <Kilos> magespawn, can you do some thinking for me
[15:54] <Kilos> ?
[15:54] <Kilos> the 2tb drive wont take ubuntu at all but that other one goes in easy
[15:55] <Kilos> i even checked if its not in bios the boot sector virus protection but i cant find it in bios
[15:57] <Kilos> live cd takes hours to even open to try or install
[15:58] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[15:58] <Kilos> wb
[15:58] <kbmonkey> hi Kilos !
[15:59] <Kilos> whats with the !
[15:59] <Kilos> whats that mean
[15:59] <Kilos> oh my
[15:59] <Kilos> chased him
[16:03] <magespawn> Kilos maybe there is some restriction on installing on a 2tb
[16:03] <Kilos> from ubuntu?
[16:03] <Kilos> oh my
[16:03] <Kilos> or from the drive peeps
[16:04] <magespawn> not sure let see what i can find
[16:04] <Kilos> not very serious
[16:05] <Kilos> but imho if it cant take ubuntu its bad news
[16:05] <Kilos> would make a lekker data recovery drive
[16:05] <kbmonkey> back
[16:05] <Kilos> wb kbmonkey 
[16:06] <kbmonkey> you have a 2tb drive kilos?
[16:06] <Kilos> got your thinking cap on?
[16:06] <kbmonkey> yes, its underneath my tinfoil hat, friend
[16:06] <Kilos> its one i gotta fix for ian kbmonkey 
[16:06] <Kilos> lol
[16:06] <Kilos> you got mail
[16:06] <Kilos> greeter.py needs a debug function added
[16:07] <kbmonkey> ok :)
[16:07] <Kilos> go ##kilos see if the cow greets you
[16:07] <Kilos> oh my
[16:07] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:08] <Kilos> good connection you have there
[16:08] <Kilos> get 8ta
[16:08] <magespawn> heres a link that might help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/unable-to-boot-fresh-install-on-2tb-harddrive-debian-ubuntu-838681/
[16:08] <Kilos> ty magespawn i go see
[16:09] <magespawn> i did not read all of it but it seems to be on the right track
[16:09] <Kilos> i will read it all if it can help ty
[16:21] <Kilos> whew
[16:22] <Kilos> you gotta quick install from xp install cd then make partitions with flags off and one on but here xp doesnt even see the sata
[16:22] <Kilos> grrr
[16:22] <Kilos> and live 12.04 and 10.10 take forever just to open cd
[16:22] <Kilos> grrr
[16:23] <magespawn> maybe it is worth the wait
[16:23] <Kilos> maybe ill try my unity as first drive and gparted the 2tb smaller then try
[16:24] <Kilos> can try being more patient too i spose but so used to live cd open chop chop
[16:25] <kbmonkey> lol
[16:25] <Kilos> been spoiled with things just working
[16:26] <Kilos> the 2 tb was dead kbmonkey 
[16:26] <Kilos> virii killed it
[16:26] <kbmonkey> surely not dead physically
[16:26] <Kilos> dont ask how i got it going i did 100 things
[16:26] <kbmonkey> you mean corrupted?
[16:26] <Kilos> bios didnt see it even
[16:27] <kbmonkey> yikes
[16:27] <Kilos> yeah mbr and everything was messed
[16:27] <kbmonkey> snafu
[16:27] <Kilos> huh?
[16:27] <Kilos> you okes and your funny things
[16:28] <Kilos> like they fly with wayttd thing
[16:28] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:29] <kbmonkey> its actually u.s. military slang :o
[16:29] <Kilos> lol
[16:29] <Kilos> lazy swines
[16:29] <kbmonkey> situation normal all fouled up
[16:30] <kbmonkey> as in, everything is going haywire, but that is normal around here ;)
[16:30] <Kilos> hehe
[16:30] <kbmonkey> well using radio codes you had to abbreviate a lot of what was said
[16:31] <Kilos> oh ya but then i was young and sexy
[16:31] <Kilos> now just sexy
[16:32] <kbmonkey> i bet you were!
[16:32] <kbmonkey> ha ha
[16:32] <kbmonkey> hey you can't have the best of both worlds, eh? 
[16:33] <Kilos> oh kbmonkey if you look in ibid you might see how they did the other auto debug stuff and get the gist of it
[16:34] <Kilos> my bot greeted once only and never again
[16:34] <Kilos> stupid cow
[16:34] <kbmonkey> well, how did you test that, oom?
[16:36] <Kilos> i put the greeter in an ibid folder in home
[16:36] <Kilos> coutesy of the fly
[16:36] <Kilos> courtesy
[16:36] <Kilos> then she greeted the first oke in and never again
[16:37] <Kilos> you can go see her on ##kilos
[16:42] <kbmonkey> geek meet tomorrow magespawn :)
[16:42] <magespawn> yeah i know unfortunately i am working :(
[16:43] <kbmonkey> darn :(
[16:44] <magespawn> earlish morning and late afternoon game drive
[16:47] <kbmonkey> I'll be playing supertuxkart, also a game drive ;)
[16:49] <magespawn> and the thing is i have to come down to durban soonish to get stock
[16:49] <kbmonkey> but that will be next week some time?
[16:50] <magespawn> not sure trying to juggle the work and family time etc
[16:52] <magespawn> i am out of here for now, on my way home, see y'all later maybe
[16:52] <inetpro> Kilos: don't you go start accusing ubuntu of all your limitations!
[16:52] <Kilos> oh my
[16:52] <Kilos> i didnt did i?
[16:53] <inetpro> Kilos: 2tb drive not working on ubuntu 
[16:53] <Kilos> did you read nicely or just skim inetpro 
[16:54] <Kilos> i didnt accuse man i asked for help to get ubuntu to install on it
[16:54] <inetpro> with all the chatter how can I read all the detail? Kilos, you talk to much. :-)
[16:54] <kbmonkey> at leasy Kilos claims Ubuntu is making him more sexy
[16:54] <Kilos> lol
[16:54] <inetpro> good evening boyz and girlz
[16:55] <Kilos> i installed 12.04 kde on a 500gB drive today in 25 mins
[16:55] <Symmetria>  6:53PM  up 1555 days,  9:12, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[16:55] <kbmonkey> hi inetpro 
[16:55] <Symmetria> heh
[16:55] <Symmetria> damn, that box needs patching and upgrading or something :p
[16:55] <Symmetria> but I have a feeling if I ever reboot it, it may never start again
[16:55] <kbmonkey> wow!
[16:56] <Symmetria> heh, brb, rebooting my desktop (which isnt that one haha)
[16:58] <Kilos> inetpro, are you juststirring the pot again?
[16:58] <inetpro> Kilos: obviously
[16:58] <inetpro> lunch bar
[16:58] <Kilos> swine
[16:58] <Kilos> had me there
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat quikish
[16:59] <kbmonkey> oops
[16:59] <Kilos> what kbmonkey 
[16:59] <kbmonkey> yeah im about to go make burgers
[16:59] <Kilos> hehe
[16:59] <kbmonkey> I accidentally logged out :p
[16:59] <kbmonkey> hehe
[16:59] <inetpro> 30/11 18:03:03 <magespawn> Kilos maybe there is some restriction on installing on a 2tb
[16:59] <inetpro> 30/11 18:03:30 <Kilos> from ubuntu?
[16:59] <inetpro> 30/11 18:03:34 <Kilos> oh my
[16:59] <inetpro> Kilos: ^^
[17:00] <inetpro> kbmonkey: wb
[17:00]  * inetpro getting home made burgers this evening
[17:01] <inetpro> smelling very very nice as I sit here
[17:02] <kbmonkey> hmmmmm. you make me hungry inetpro 
[17:03] <kbmonkey> trying to update the system so I can kick off my supertuxkart build 
[17:03]  * inetpro wbbl
[17:03] <kbmonkey> but the net, she is not happy
[17:19] <Kilos> lol at inetpro 
[17:19] <Kilos> jy tender vir n hout overall
[17:24] <Kilos> superfly, why dont you protect me
[17:24] <Kilos> im old you know
[17:26] <Kilos> note the pro left out <Kilos> or from the drive peeps
[17:26] <Kilos> jou beurt is jou beurt
[17:27] <superfly> Kilos: from what?
[17:27] <Kilos> he keeps attacking me
[17:28] <Kilos> just reads what he wants to read
 Kilos: don't you go start accusing ubuntu of all your limitations!
[17:44] <Kilos> the cheeky swine
[17:45] <Kilos> my limitations are 
[17:45] <Kilos> um
[17:45] <Kilos> judged by my friends limitations
[17:46] <Kilos> judged/governed
[18:36] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[18:36] <charl_> hi Kilos :)
[18:45] <Kilos> night all.sleep tight
[18:54] <inetpro> ai
[18:54]  * inetpro is in die dogbox
[18:55] <inetpro> Maaz: tell Kilos Sorry Oom!
[18:55] <Maaz> inetpro: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[18:57] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:57] <inetpro> superfly: waar's jou vrou heen?
[18:58] <superfly> inetpro: running after children
[18:58] <inetpro> oi
[18:59] <inetpro> she caused the netsplit?
[18:59] <inetpro> tell her to stop running 
[19:03] <inetpro> wb mrs_fly
[19:06]  * smile4ever hugs superfly and inetpro
[19:06] <smile4ever> :)
[19:08] <inetpro> ehlo smile4ever
[19:08] <inetpro> just keep smiling
[19:08] <smile4ever> yeah :)
[19:08] <smile4ever> even if you have loads of work to do
[19:08] <inetpro> hugs or not my thing
[19:09]  * inetpro smells burnt food 
[19:10] <inetpro> not anywhere in my house though
[19:11] <inetpro> must be neighbors 
[19:13] <Symmetria> hrm
[19:13] <Symmetria> sup
[19:13]  * Symmetria is trying to remeber how to write code :P LOL its been far 2 long since I had to actually write anything vaguely complicated
[19:17] <Squirm> awe, Symmetria is getting old
[19:17] <kbmonkey> hello again
[19:18] <kbmonkey> oh kilos has left
[19:18] <kbmonkey> how is the homework smile4ever 
[19:19] <Symmetria> heh Im trying to figure out how best to design a database to store bgp changes
[19:19] <Symmetria> so that I can analyze them afterwards over a period of time doing a playback
[19:19] <Symmetria> and since my db design skills are well, non-existant :p
[19:19] <Symmetria> and this is going to be a shockingly huge database within a few days :P
[19:19] <smile4ever> kbmonkey: it's going well :) but no homework, just studying :p
[19:19] <smile4ever> but it's almost the same :p
[19:20] <Squirm> Symmetria: that's what MS Access is for
[19:20] <Symmetria> squirm errr no
[19:20] <Symmetria> and especially not for what I need :p
[19:20] <Squirm> except it's an already made, badly designed database
[19:20] <Squirm> no point reinventing the wheel
[19:20] <Symmetria> heh, initially, this thing is going to receive approx. 450 thousand records
[19:20] <Trixar_za> Also minus 100000000000 points for mentioning it
[19:21] <Symmetria> then I need it to log every update that comes in, with a time stamp 
[19:21] <Symmetria> as well as figure out if something NEW is coming in, or if its updating something already there
[19:21] <Symmetria> and records can come in at a rate of a few thousand a second
[19:21] <Symmetria> so its gonna need to be sick fast
[19:21] <Squirm> Trixar_za: mentioning that it's a badly designed database and will crash when used? just like the one Symmetria was going to create himself?
[19:21] <Trixar_za> Oh yeah
[19:22] <Squirm> open your eyes buddy :P
[19:22] <Trixar_za> Yeah, that's MS Access for you
[19:22]  * Squirm shoves the 100000000000 points down Trixar_za's throat
[19:22] <Trixar_za> Actually that's MS to a nutshell
[19:22] <Symmetria> heh squirm I plan to use mysql for this database
[19:22] <Squirm> s/to/in
[19:22] <Symmetria> its the actual database schematic that I dont know how to design properly
[19:22] <Symmetria> :p
[19:23] <Symmetria> cant just shove records in one after another here, thing will grow 2 fast and the indexing wont keep up
[19:23] <Squirm> Symmetria: why not record to ram, then start storing entries every now and again?
[19:23] <Symmetria> squirm well, thats a potential option but its gonna chew one HELL of a lot of ram if I do that
[19:23] <smile4ever> :) http://primes.utm.edu/top20/page.php?id=30
[19:24] <smile4ever> a bit maths for all ;)
[19:24] <Squirm> Symmetria: it will give you the speed you need
[19:24] <Squirm> but say, write changes when 1000 entries are made?
[19:24] <Trixar_za> Should I be worried that Symmetria's habit is hacking and breaking things?
[19:24] <Symmetria> heh, 450 thousand addresses, 450 thousand asn's, upwards of 3 million communities, and 23 million total paths 
[19:24] <Trixar_za> habit == hobby*
[19:25] <Symmetria> squirm hahaha what do I hack and break :p
[19:25] <Squirm> Symmetria: I don't know. as Trixar_za :/
[19:25] <Squirm> esn for example
[19:25] <Squirm> they can't bond our lines :/
[19:25] <Symmetria> heh sorry I meant to ask Trixar_za that
[19:25] <Trixar_za> SQL, IP, etc
[19:25] <Squirm> s/as/ask
[19:26] <Symmetria> heh, well, the storage of the actual addresses in the db is easy, store them numerically (obviously)
[19:27] <Symmetria> technically the addresses will be 32bit u_int's, the asn's will be 32bit u_ints as well, the communities will be 64bit or 128bit dependant
[19:36] <smile4ever> byee! :p
[20:04] <hubx> hi there
[20:04] <hubx> who is going to rhok tomorrow?
[20:22] <inetpro> Symmetria: and how much would you be willing to pay for such a solution?
[20:24] <inetpro> perhaps somebody might be willing to help if there's an incentive
[20:27] <inetpro> set a price and let people compete, best solution gets the moneys
[20:28] <inetpro> with the prerequisite that it must be open source
[20:56] <inetpro> wb Vince-0
[21:00] <inetpro> how's the weather down in Cape Town this evening?
[21:02] <tumbleweed> wiindy
[21:02] <inetpro> wb tumbleweed
[21:03] <tumbleweed> inetpro: haven't gone anywhere, I promise :)
[21:03]  * inetpro earlier in the news of this evening noticed the South Easter having done it's job 
[21:04] <inetpro> tumbleweed: well you have been very quiet lately
[21:04] <tumbleweed> true
[21:04] <inetpro> like you were out of the country
[21:08] <tumbleweed> naah, last time I was away was UDS
[21:08] <inetpro> ok
[21:08] <inetpro> tumbleweed: so what keeps you so busy then?
[21:08] <tumbleweed> it's a good question
[21:08] <tumbleweed> I'm not too sure what the answer is :P
[21:09] <inetpro> lol
[21:09] <tumbleweed> too many TV series probably
[21:09] <inetpro> ok ok, take it easy 
[21:09] <tumbleweed> that seems to have been what I've been doing when I get home, for the last while
[21:09] <inetpro> everyone needs a bit of a break at times
[21:09] <tumbleweed> :)
[21:10] <tumbleweed> but I just said I'd look at a package, so let me do that...
[21:11] <inetpro> tumbleweed: you mean the one called openlp?
[21:11] <superfly> inetpro: nope
[21:11] <inetpro> ahh
[21:11] <superfly> inetpro: not yet
[21:11] <tumbleweed> no, virtualenv for barry
[21:11] <inetpro> was just wondering
[21:12] <superfly> inetpro: though tumbleweed is kind enough to put up with me and my package every now and then
[21:12] <superfly> tumbleweed: I will have a new version, we're releasing 2.0 this weekend :-)
[21:13] <tumbleweed> \o/
[21:13] <superfly> but right now I have other things to worry about
[21:14] <inetpro> superfly: good luck
[21:14] <superfly> thanks, inetpro
[21:36] <smile> :-D
[21:38] <smile> Hi all :p who is not asleep yet? :-P
[21:40]  * superfly is in the middle of a huge site upgrade
[21:42] <smile> :-P
[21:47] <inetpro> smile: sup?
[21:48] <smile> Sup?
[21:48] <inetpro> smile: what's up doc?
[21:49] <inetpro> Maaz: define sup
[21:49] <Maaz> inetpro: Sup \Sup\, v. i. [See {Supper}.] To eat the evening meal; to take supper. [1913 Webster]  I do entreat that we may sup together.   --Shak. [1913 Webster], Sup \Sup\, v. t. To treat with supper. [Obs.] [1913 Webster]  Sup them well and look unto them all.    --Shak. [1913 Webster], Sup \Sup\ (s[u^]p), v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Supped}; p. pr. & vb. n.
[21:49] <Maaz> {Supping}.] [OE. soupen to drink, AS. s[=u]pan; akin to D. zuipen, G. saufen, OHG. s[=u]fan, Icel. …
[21:49] <inetpro> hmm...
[21:50] <inetpro> Maaz: sup is a contraction of the phrase "what's up?"
[21:50] <Maaz> inetpro: I already know stuff about sup
[21:50] <inetpro> Maaz: sup
[21:50]  * Maaz waves to inetpro
[21:50] <inetpro> ai
[21:56] <smile> I am fine. You too?
[21:58] <magespawn> evening all
[21:59] <magespawn> looks like insominia is here
[22:01] <magespawn> Maaz, sup
[22:01] <Maaz> Howzit magespawn
[22:01] <magespawn> see it works
[22:01] <magespawn> lol
[22:04] <superfly> magespawn: I think I'd handle it better if I really had insomnia
[22:04] <magespawn> indeed
[22:05] <magespawn> glass of warm milk cures that
[22:13] <magespawn> how cool is this http://news.discovery.com/tech/dna-legos-build-a-mini-space-shuttle-121130.html#mkcpgn=rssnws1
[22:22] <smile> Is er al snow in suid-afrika?
[22:22] <smile> :-P
[22:39] <smile> Bye :-)