=== Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [04:28] morning all === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [05:03] hi Trix[a]r_za [05:06] hi jr [05:06] jrgns, [05:06] morning Kilos [05:29] Morning Kilos, jrgns [05:29] morning mister fly [05:29] morning superfly [05:39] meh. My stomach is moaning about a lack of food [05:39] I'm not even at work yet [05:39] aw so early already [05:40] carry snacks in your laapy bag [05:40] Indeed [05:40] they have many partitions [05:40] hehe [05:40] called pad kos [05:40] Eat my brekkie on the train? :-P [05:41] whatever just satisfy tummy [05:41] Hehehe [05:41] I'll be at work in about 20 minutes, I'll survive [05:42] hehe [05:43] ya on train others might wanna share your brekkie [05:44] Train stopped with the door *just* beyond the platform [05:44] eish [05:44] you get to practise long jump [05:44] A young lady had to make a bit of a jump to get off [05:44] or high jump [05:44] shame [05:45] Nah, wasn't far [05:45] The edge of the platform was right next to the door [05:46] ah [05:46] But it was quite amusing [05:46] lol [05:49] Obs, salt river, woodstock then cape town, and then just a short walk up to breakfast, i mean, work [05:49] rofl [05:50] Obs down, on to salt river! [05:50] with tummy grumbling its not easy to think of anything but food [05:50] Oh, the entralling tale of a morning train ride [05:50] *enthralling [05:51] keeps ones mind occupied [05:52] And now we stop halfway between obs and salt river... [05:52] Kilos: i'm mainly saying this for your amusement :-P [05:53] lol cheeky [05:53] always! [05:53] ive already fixed my maverick [05:54] Oh good. [05:54] ya stupid pc hung in the middle of boot repair [05:54] Ahhh [05:54] so boot part got corrupted [05:54] Ouch [05:55] i think cpu gets temperamental at times [05:55] And TaraLS? [05:55] hers still same [05:55] -_- [05:55] morning all [05:56] been offered one from cherry computers [05:56] epic train journey [05:56] seems they do upgrading and will send her one from what they get in\ [05:56] hi magespawn [05:56] magespawn: scintillating, isn't it? [05:57] the stuff of legend [05:57] thats what friends do man [05:57] they share [05:57] Kilos: that's cool [05:58] Kilos: i wish I could help more, but i've been extremely busy [05:58] we know superfly [05:58] well better than my step by step uninstall and reinstall of a network printer under 'THAT' os, for about the 10th time [05:58] we actually worry about you overdoing things [05:58] ouch magespawn [05:59] magespawn: eish [05:59] btw, magespawn, do you have a pick 'n pay close by? [05:59] of course under linux it always works [05:59] superfly: not really [05:59] Heh. [06:00] magespawn: cool, just wanted to know [06:00] cape town! Gotta go boys and girls, see you later! [06:01] nearest is mtubatuba about 50km away [06:01] do have a boxer though [06:01] later superfly [06:06] hi psydroid [06:17] hi Squirm [06:27] ah, finally [06:28] breakfast [06:28] first bite down? [06:28] and coffee [06:28] indeed [06:28] lol [06:28] breakfast, now on to the coffee [06:28] Maaz coffee on [06:28] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [06:28] Maaz, coffee please [06:28] Kilos: Alrighty [06:28] magespawn: what about checkers or shoprite? [06:28] Maaz, large [06:28] In a beer mug just for you Kilos [06:28] Maaz: coffee please [06:28] superfly: Yessir [06:28] have a shoprite [06:32] hes going to tell me why just now lol [06:32] Coffee's ready for magespawn, Kilos and superfly! [06:32] Maaz, danke [06:32] Bitteschön [06:32] Maaz botsnack [06:32] What do you want magespawn Trying to butter me up or something? [06:32] lol [06:33] magespawn: FNB is killing us in fees, it's MUCH cheaper to use EasyPay via Pick 'n Pay, Shoprite or Checkers [06:33] to do what? deposit money for airtime [06:33] checker checkers just up your street [06:34] magespawn: ya [06:34] admin fees [06:34] banks are very skelm [06:34] G'morning [06:34] yo timkeller [06:34] hi timkeller [06:34] hey timkeller [06:34] ello - how goes it? [06:35] they charge you to actually accept money into their bank, swines [06:35] good ty timkeller and you? [06:35] Good ty, very glad its Friday. [06:36] most peeps are [06:36] those that work at work and rest at home [06:38] Indeed [06:43] Maaz, greet lurkers [06:43] Hello lurkers, you may voice an opinion now and again you know [06:48] uh oh [06:48] * inetpro is not a lurker? [06:48] good morning Kilos [06:48] hi inetpro Vince-0 [06:48] Haai ! [06:48] inetpro, maverick fixed on both drives [06:48] Always quick on the draw [06:49] w000t [06:49] forgot that pc dont boot into bios when battery in [06:49] musta given nuvo gray hair [06:52] Kilos: nice! [06:52] ai [06:52] both worked on recovery mode with a y to fix it [06:53] a y to fix it? [06:54] it runs through recovery then when probs found it states where the prob is and gives options Y being yes to fix it or attempt to [06:54] hi Kilos [07:06] im sure recovery mode is an fsck [07:42] morning everyone [07:43] hi mazal [07:54] Hoe gaanit oom ? [07:54] goed dankie en self [07:54] testdisk can even change a drives geometry [07:54] Goed dankie , niks klagte nie [07:54] cool tool [07:54] mooi [07:57] * superfly is generating hype [07:57] Morning superfly [07:58] morning magespawn [07:58] *mazal [07:58] meh. tab-complete fail [07:58] how superfly [07:58] Share [07:58] https://www.facebook.com/openlp [07:58] ah thats good [07:59] last 3 status updates [07:59] nee man i no go fb. but if its openlp thats good [08:00] Kilos: you don't need to be signed in to Facebook to see the updates [08:00] mazal, sudo aptitude install openlp [08:00] oh [08:00] ok i go see [08:00] Love what you guys are doing superfly [08:01] hey superfly morning lol [08:01] hey mazal [08:01] Hey magespawn [08:03] thats the way superfly build the excitement [08:12] magespawn, heres off topic [08:13] the smell of frying onion and garlic with a bit of curry powder added is much more exciting than glade air freshener [08:14] hmmm , kernel update [08:14] Good thing I archived yesterday [08:15] lol [08:15] I'm always nervous on those , even though I never had an issue after kernel update [08:16] you can turn updates off and only do them manually when it suits you [08:16] I do [08:16] ah [08:16] nice Kilos [08:16] can smell it from here [08:16] hehe [08:17] makes one just wanna dive in and fill up [08:17] Sounds like something you can fish with :) [08:19] lol [08:20] hi Superhuman [08:24] goto reboot [08:28] Oi , the refusal to shut down problem is back :P [08:30] bbl , gonna play some gt5 [08:31] good morning [08:31] Maaz: coffee on [08:31] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [08:32] for anyone who says there are no women in IT: http://youtu.be/mlYjuvTt9mM [08:32] hi charl_ [08:32] hi Kilos ~! [08:33] hey you [08:33] why dont you write a testimonial and say why you are here on ubuntu-za [08:34] a testimonial?! [08:34] :S [08:34] for our reapproval on the 18th [08:34] wait [08:34] you have to apply to be reapproved? [08:34] considering ubuntu started in south africa i would be surprised if they close down ubuntu-za :) [08:34] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication2012 [08:35] no man its every 2 years [08:35] ah [08:35] Coffee's ready for charl_! [08:36] will look good to have some from outside the country methinks [08:38] dont just ah . do it [08:38] are the facebook / mailing list busy? [08:38] ? [08:39] i see there is a facebook page and a mailing list with unknown number of members [08:39] there is no link to any facebook page from http://ubuntu-za.org/ [08:39] only twitter and g+ [08:39] oh my [08:40] wow the forums do seem pretty dead [08:41] i also see no mention of a mailing list on ubuntu-za.org [08:42] our peeps are very busy [08:42] not much interesting on the g+ page either [08:42] poor maia cant keep up with everything [08:42] yeah but i think it's better to have a few communication channels than too many [08:42] i think 2-3 are more than enough [08:44] i dunno [08:44] the powers decide [08:44] this irc channel is reasonably busy, maybe have either a forum or mailing list in addition to that and the twitter feed [08:44] just my suggestion :) [08:45] well it's a community :) so the community decides right? [08:47] doesnt it point to our mailing list? [08:50] on http://ubuntu-za.org/get-involved it says "Email: This is our primary communication medium. Join our mailing list" [08:50] but no link [08:50] ah the link is here: http://ubuntu-za.org/get-support [08:50] the two pages are almost identical, they should probably be combined [08:51] ah here's the link to facebook too on the same page [08:51] personally i would put those links on the left in the main navigation or just above/below it [08:51] it's a good site, just not very well organised [08:53] time is the prob methinks [08:53] yeah that's understandable [08:54] if you want i'm happy to volunteer to improve it [08:54] i don't know if i'm allowed though as a non-south-african :) [08:54] you gotta talk to the pro or fly or maia [08:55] ok [08:56] im the greeter bot [08:57] haha [08:59] Kilos, charl_: I don't manage the site, superfly does but he's very busy, but I'm sure he would welcome any help that he could get [09:00] i included you inetpro because you know who does what [09:01] Kilos: eh [09:01] is it a permissions thing [09:01] you also know [09:01] Kilos: I guess he would have to assign initial permissions [09:01] hmmm [09:02] ok we wait for superfly [09:04] ive already forgotten what i wanted maverick to do when it gave probs [09:14] in the meantime charl_ write your testimonial why you are part of the top ubuntu community [09:15] top/best/friendliest/etc [09:39] wow, 110mbps over 4g in japan http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8486/8230706539_38f18a74ee_o.jpg [09:39] very nice [09:40] whew thats moving [09:40] 3g data will disappear fast [09:41] yeah i mean that's mobile internet! i have just a little more than half that at home and that's on landline [09:41] well, cable anyway [09:41] whew [09:41] how they push so much data over the airwaves is amazing [09:41] yeah [09:41] the landline providers will need to move fast with rolling out fibre or they will miss out [09:43] and at 41 euros per month - that's less than what i pay for my cable [09:43] time to learn japanese :) [09:44] lol [09:44] Der Untergang des Abendlandes :) [09:44] koko ni hon ga arimasu ka [09:47] watashi ha hon wo ​​motte inai [09:50] thats all the jap i know man [09:51] where is the book [09:53] lol [09:53] i just (tried) to say i don't have a book [09:54] but yeah my japanese is not that great either, although i know a bit [09:54] oh shikaku [09:54] dischalified i think that means [09:55] sjoe [09:55] disqualified [09:55] i think it means "square" :) [09:56] aw [09:57] forgot too much [09:57] we need to learn Maaz some japanese so he can help :P [09:57] dozo is come here? [09:58] i'm not sure exactly, it seems to have a meaning that depends a lot on the context [09:58] a bit like "domo" [09:59] domo could mean hello, or thank you for example [10:00] oh ya domo arigatoo ty spanne [10:12] updates + restart, bbl [10:46] ib [10:46] Ok , I added my testimonial [10:47] ty mazal [10:48] Maaz, seen maiatoday [10:48] Kilos: maiatoday was last seen 3 days, 5 hours, 5 minutes and 33 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-11-26 21:43:02 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-11-28 06:24:58 PST [10:48] oh my [10:49] Maaz, greet lurkers [10:49] Hello lurkers, you may voice an opinion now and again you know [10:51] lol [10:56] OOoo [10:56] lies! [10:56] * bakuman is to busy with his beta's [11:03] lo bakuman [11:04] you got 16 days [11:04] so no serious rush [11:31] is tumbleweed very busy [11:32] * Kilos needs some info [11:33] as in is it lots of work to add debugging script to http://slexy.org/view/s2WXPilgJq [11:40] Kilos: WAYTTD [11:41] whew [11:41] wassat [11:41] way to much to do? [11:47] Maaz: WAYTTD [11:47] superfly: WAYTTD is What Are You Trying To Do? [11:48] oh ty. my greeter doesnt greet superfly [11:48] greeted only once [11:49] and my channel is kinda expanding to help heres peeps with other probs [11:49] non ubuntu stuff that bespoils this channel [11:50] and hurts some guys eyes [11:50] hehe [11:51] the idea is to help with other systems for our people here that get stuck [12:30] hello [12:48] hi Squirm [12:59] have one more ICDL exam to pass [12:59] good lad [13:15] nice Squirm [13:19] eek [13:20] unity 2d shell showed in launcher and didnt open anywhere so i told it quit and launcher disappeaered [13:20] grrr [13:37] meh [13:37] passed them all [13:37] my lowest mark was MS Access at 81% [13:37] nicd [13:38] just to add. I've never used access before today [13:38] and even then it was a 10min lesson in access my the IT teacher here :P [13:38] well done Squirm drinks on you [13:38] good teacher [13:38] don't know how worth the certificate is [13:39] but it will be good to be registered as an ICDL administrator/examiner now [13:39] they all add up lad [13:39] Kilos: I don't know [13:40] I didn't like the exams hey [13:40] won't be like that in real world use and some bogus question/answer pairs [13:40] no one does but later in life you say thank heavens i didi that [13:41] I swear I got some wrong in previous exams cause I would have provided a better answer than they gave :/ [13:41] the certificates are what count [13:41] lol [13:41] my boss took a photo of one of my questions. I'll get it and show you [13:42] even the auditer that came yesterday didn't know what the answer would be :P [13:43] Squirm: is that the ms office ICDL? [13:43] magespawn: yep [13:43] Squirm: you know that they say about teachers? [13:43] MS Office, Powerpoint, Access, Excel, Basic concepts of IT, Internet and Email, File Management [13:43] superfly: no? [13:44] Those who can, do; those who can't, teach. [13:44] never seen worse example than those given in exams [13:44] lol [13:44] true :P [13:45] not only are they completely unrealistic, they're often missing a LOT of information, and are contradictory [13:45] or ambiguous [13:45] or worse.... both [13:46] the best exam I've ever done, is the RedHat one [13:54] hi magtie [13:54] Hi Kilos [13:54] Its Week-end!!! [13:56] no it's not :/ [13:56] such a bad mood now it's frightening :/ [13:56] bbl [14:07] me too bbl go home safe guys [14:51] Kilos like a yo-yo [14:52] hehe its this switching pcs to do different thinks that causes it [14:52] Kilos it sounds like you have a control center there :) [14:54] hehe almost [14:54] if i had more screens and place id have 2 more pcs going [14:54] need a wireless routerto connect tham all together [14:55] i have old screens crt lying around gathering dust [14:55] no then they each need wireless cards [14:55] no man no place either [14:56] you gotta read everything [14:56] also i dont think id manage with 4 or even three going [14:56] get mixed up with 2 as it is [14:57] that is why i said a wireless router so all can have interwebs together [15:03] lol and what the cards for each pc cost [15:05] no you would use cables to link to router then the router has dongle in it [15:05] ah [15:05] no man [15:05] i get lost already [15:06] not an internet cafe this [15:06] only me [15:06] then you could use synergy to control all the pc with one keyboard and mouse [15:07] when this buncha drives fixed or totally scrapped then i still wanna install server on one pc [15:07] magespawn, stop it [15:07] sjoe [15:08] headless server with no monitor, keyboard or mouse, controlled through cli via ssh connection on another machine [15:11] if run a lan the pc does not even have to be in the same room, you could put it in the garage [15:12] ubuntu very nice for doing this sort of thing [15:17] maybe if the certificated kid gets over his moods he might be needed to help up there [15:17] sounds good that magespawn [15:18] gtg for now [15:33] tgif [15:34] you get to rest? or to party? [15:35] or to play lotsa squash to flatten the tummy [15:38] you talking to me Kilkos? [15:38] no Squirm sorry magespawn [15:39] do you also need to play squash [15:39] thats for you magespawn [15:39] no worries was a bit of the line of our conversation [15:40] i DO need to do some sort of exercise, typing and leaping to conclusions is not cutting it [15:40] ya i forget and was outside locking up sheep for the night etc [15:40] Kilos: all of the above [15:40] hahaha @ magespawn [15:40] whew Squirm then you tired again on monday [15:41] self inflicted punishment [15:41] it's not punishment being tired [15:41] maybe take one weekend every two months and sleep it away [15:42] how boring [15:45] lol [15:54] magespawn, can you do some thinking for me [15:54] ? [15:54] the 2tb drive wont take ubuntu at all but that other one goes in easy [15:55] i even checked if its not in bios the boot sector virus protection but i cant find it in bios [15:57] live cd takes hours to even open to try or install [15:58] hi kbmonkey [15:58] wb [15:58] hi Kilos ! [15:59] whats with the ! [15:59] whats that mean [15:59] oh my [15:59] chased him [16:03] Kilos maybe there is some restriction on installing on a 2tb [16:03] from ubuntu? [16:03] oh my [16:03] or from the drive peeps [16:04] not sure let see what i can find [16:04] not very serious [16:05] but imho if it cant take ubuntu its bad news [16:05] would make a lekker data recovery drive [16:05] back [16:05] wb kbmonkey [16:06] you have a 2tb drive kilos? [16:06] got your thinking cap on? [16:06] yes, its underneath my tinfoil hat, friend [16:06] its one i gotta fix for ian kbmonkey [16:06] lol [16:06] you got mail [16:06] greeter.py needs a debug function added [16:07] ok :) [16:07] go ##kilos see if the cow greets you [16:07] oh my [16:07] sjoe [16:08] good connection you have there [16:08] get 8ta [16:08] heres a link that might help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/unable-to-boot-fresh-install-on-2tb-harddrive-debian-ubuntu-838681/ [16:08] ty magespawn i go see [16:09] i did not read all of it but it seems to be on the right track [16:09] i will read it all if it can help ty [16:21] whew [16:22] you gotta quick install from xp install cd then make partitions with flags off and one on but here xp doesnt even see the sata [16:22] grrr [16:22] and live 12.04 and 10.10 take forever just to open cd [16:22] grrr [16:23] maybe it is worth the wait [16:23] maybe ill try my unity as first drive and gparted the 2tb smaller then try [16:24] can try being more patient too i spose but so used to live cd open chop chop [16:25] lol [16:25] been spoiled with things just working [16:26] the 2 tb was dead kbmonkey [16:26] virii killed it [16:26] surely not dead physically [16:26] dont ask how i got it going i did 100 things [16:26] you mean corrupted? [16:26] bios didnt see it even [16:27] yikes [16:27] yeah mbr and everything was messed [16:27] snafu [16:27] huh? [16:27] you okes and your funny things [16:28] like they fly with wayttd thing [16:28] sjoe [16:29] its actually u.s. military slang :o [16:29] lol [16:29] lazy swines [16:29] situation normal all fouled up [16:30] as in, everything is going haywire, but that is normal around here ;) [16:30] hehe [16:30] well using radio codes you had to abbreviate a lot of what was said [16:31] oh ya but then i was young and sexy [16:31] now just sexy [16:32] i bet you were! [16:32] ha ha [16:32] hey you can't have the best of both worlds, eh? [16:33] oh kbmonkey if you look in ibid you might see how they did the other auto debug stuff and get the gist of it [16:34] my bot greeted once only and never again [16:34] stupid cow [16:34] well, how did you test that, oom? [16:36] i put the greeter in an ibid folder in home [16:36] coutesy of the fly [16:36] courtesy [16:36] then she greeted the first oke in and never again [16:37] you can go see her on ##kilos [16:42] geek meet tomorrow magespawn :) [16:42] yeah i know unfortunately i am working :( [16:43] darn :( [16:44] earlish morning and late afternoon game drive [16:47] I'll be playing supertuxkart, also a game drive ;) [16:49] and the thing is i have to come down to durban soonish to get stock [16:49] but that will be next week some time? [16:50] not sure trying to juggle the work and family time etc [16:52] i am out of here for now, on my way home, see y'all later maybe [16:52] Kilos: don't you go start accusing ubuntu of all your limitations! [16:52] oh my [16:52] i didnt did i? [16:53] Kilos: 2tb drive not working on ubuntu [16:53] did you read nicely or just skim inetpro [16:54] i didnt accuse man i asked for help to get ubuntu to install on it [16:54] with all the chatter how can I read all the detail? Kilos, you talk to much. :-) [16:54] at leasy Kilos claims Ubuntu is making him more sexy [16:54] lol [16:54] good evening boyz and girlz [16:55] i installed 12.04 kde on a 500gB drive today in 25 mins [16:55] 6:53PM up 1555 days, 9:12, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 [16:55] hi inetpro [16:55] heh [16:55] damn, that box needs patching and upgrading or something :p [16:55] but I have a feeling if I ever reboot it, it may never start again [16:55] wow! [16:56] heh, brb, rebooting my desktop (which isnt that one haha) [16:58] inetpro, are you juststirring the pot again? [16:58] Kilos: obviously [16:58] lunch bar [16:58] swine [16:58] had me there [16:59] i go eat quikish [16:59] oops [16:59] what kbmonkey [16:59] yeah im about to go make burgers [16:59] hehe [16:59] I accidentally logged out :p [16:59] hehe [16:59] 30/11 18:03:03 Kilos maybe there is some restriction on installing on a 2tb [16:59] 30/11 18:03:30 from ubuntu? [16:59] 30/11 18:03:34 oh my [16:59] Kilos: ^^ [17:00] kbmonkey: wb [17:00] * inetpro getting home made burgers this evening [17:01] smelling very very nice as I sit here [17:02] hmmmmm. you make me hungry inetpro [17:03] trying to update the system so I can kick off my supertuxkart build [17:03] * inetpro wbbl [17:03] but the net, she is not happy [17:19] lol at inetpro [17:19] jy tender vir n hout overall [17:24] superfly, why dont you protect me [17:24] im old you know [17:26] note the pro left out or from the drive peeps [17:26] jou beurt is jou beurt [17:27] Kilos: from what? [17:27] he keeps attacking me [17:28] just reads what he wants to read [17:28] Kilos: don't you go start accusing ubuntu of all your limitations! [17:44] the cheeky swine === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [17:45] my limitations are [17:45] um [17:45] judged by my friends limitations [17:46] judged/governed [18:36] hi charl_ [18:36] hi Kilos :) [18:45] night all.sleep tight [18:54] ai [18:54] * inetpro is in die dogbox [18:55] Maaz: tell Kilos Sorry Oom! [18:55] inetpro: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [18:57] hmm... [18:57] superfly: waar's jou vrou heen? [18:58] inetpro: running after children [18:58] oi [18:59] she caused the netsplit? [18:59] tell her to stop running [19:03] wb mrs_fly [19:06] * smile4ever hugs superfly and inetpro [19:06] :) [19:08] ehlo smile4ever [19:08] just keep smiling [19:08] yeah :) [19:08] even if you have loads of work to do [19:08] hugs or not my thing [19:09] * inetpro smells burnt food [19:10] not anywhere in my house though [19:11] must be neighbors [19:13] hrm [19:13] sup [19:13] * Symmetria is trying to remeber how to write code :P LOL its been far 2 long since I had to actually write anything vaguely complicated [19:17] awe, Symmetria is getting old [19:17] hello again [19:18] oh kilos has left [19:18] how is the homework smile4ever [19:19] heh Im trying to figure out how best to design a database to store bgp changes [19:19] so that I can analyze them afterwards over a period of time doing a playback [19:19] and since my db design skills are well, non-existant :p [19:19] and this is going to be a shockingly huge database within a few days :P [19:19] kbmonkey: it's going well :) but no homework, just studying :p [19:19] but it's almost the same :p [19:20] Symmetria: that's what MS Access is for [19:20] squirm errr no [19:20] and especially not for what I need :p [19:20] except it's an already made, badly designed database [19:20] no point reinventing the wheel [19:20] heh, initially, this thing is going to receive approx. 450 thousand records [19:20] Also minus 100000000000 points for mentioning it [19:21] then I need it to log every update that comes in, with a time stamp [19:21] as well as figure out if something NEW is coming in, or if its updating something already there [19:21] and records can come in at a rate of a few thousand a second [19:21] so its gonna need to be sick fast [19:21] Trixar_za: mentioning that it's a badly designed database and will crash when used? just like the one Symmetria was going to create himself? [19:21] Oh yeah [19:22] open your eyes buddy :P [19:22] Yeah, that's MS Access for you [19:22] * Squirm shoves the 100000000000 points down Trixar_za's throat [19:22] Actually that's MS to a nutshell [19:22] heh squirm I plan to use mysql for this database [19:22] s/to/in [19:22] its the actual database schematic that I dont know how to design properly [19:22] :p [19:23] cant just shove records in one after another here, thing will grow 2 fast and the indexing wont keep up [19:23] Symmetria: why not record to ram, then start storing entries every now and again? [19:23] squirm well, thats a potential option but its gonna chew one HELL of a lot of ram if I do that [19:23] :) http://primes.utm.edu/top20/page.php?id=30 [19:24] a bit maths for all ;) [19:24] Symmetria: it will give you the speed you need [19:24] but say, write changes when 1000 entries are made? [19:24] Should I be worried that Symmetria's habit is hacking and breaking things? [19:24] heh, 450 thousand addresses, 450 thousand asn's, upwards of 3 million communities, and 23 million total paths [19:24] habit == hobby* [19:25] squirm hahaha what do I hack and break :p [19:25] Symmetria: I don't know. as Trixar_za :/ [19:25] esn for example [19:25] they can't bond our lines :/ [19:25] heh sorry I meant to ask Trixar_za that [19:25] SQL, IP, etc [19:25] s/as/ask [19:26] heh, well, the storage of the actual addresses in the db is easy, store them numerically (obviously) [19:27] technically the addresses will be 32bit u_int's, the asn's will be 32bit u_ints as well, the communities will be 64bit or 128bit dependant [19:36] byee! :p === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [20:04] hi there [20:04] who is going to rhok tomorrow? [20:22] Symmetria: and how much would you be willing to pay for such a solution? [20:24] perhaps somebody might be willing to help if there's an incentive [20:27] set a price and let people compete, best solution gets the moneys [20:28] with the prerequisite that it must be open source [20:56] wb Vince-0 [21:00] how's the weather down in Cape Town this evening? [21:02] wiindy [21:02] wb tumbleweed [21:03] inetpro: haven't gone anywhere, I promise :) [21:03] * inetpro earlier in the news of this evening noticed the South Easter having done it's job [21:04] tumbleweed: well you have been very quiet lately [21:04] true [21:04] like you were out of the country [21:08] naah, last time I was away was UDS [21:08] ok [21:08] tumbleweed: so what keeps you so busy then? [21:08] it's a good question [21:08] I'm not too sure what the answer is :P [21:09] lol [21:09] too many TV series probably [21:09] ok ok, take it easy [21:09] that seems to have been what I've been doing when I get home, for the last while [21:09] everyone needs a bit of a break at times [21:09] :) [21:10] but I just said I'd look at a package, so let me do that... [21:11] tumbleweed: you mean the one called openlp? [21:11] inetpro: nope [21:11] ahh [21:11] inetpro: not yet [21:11] no, virtualenv for barry [21:11] was just wondering [21:12] inetpro: though tumbleweed is kind enough to put up with me and my package every now and then [21:12] tumbleweed: I will have a new version, we're releasing 2.0 this weekend :-) [21:13] \o/ [21:13] but right now I have other things to worry about [21:14] superfly: good luck [21:14] thanks, inetpro [21:36] :-D [21:38] Hi all :p who is not asleep yet? :-P [21:40] * superfly is in the middle of a huge site upgrade [21:42] :-P [21:47] smile: sup? [21:48] Sup? [21:48] smile: what's up doc? [21:49] Maaz: define sup [21:49] inetpro: Sup \Sup\, v. i. [See {Supper}.] To eat the evening meal; to take supper. [1913 Webster] I do entreat that we may sup together. --Shak. [1913 Webster], Sup \Sup\, v. t. To treat with supper. [Obs.] [1913 Webster] Sup them well and look unto them all. --Shak. [1913 Webster], Sup \Sup\ (s[u^]p), v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Supped}; p. pr. & vb. n. [21:49] {Supping}.] [OE. soupen to drink, AS. s[=u]pan; akin to D. zuipen, G. saufen, OHG. s[=u]fan, Icel. … [21:49] hmm... [21:50] Maaz: sup is a contraction of the phrase "what's up?" [21:50] inetpro: I already know stuff about sup [21:50] Maaz: sup [21:50] * Maaz waves to inetpro [21:50] ai [21:56] I am fine. You too? [21:58] evening all [21:59] looks like insominia is here [22:01] Maaz, sup [22:01] Howzit magespawn [22:01] see it works [22:01] lol [22:04] magespawn: I think I'd handle it better if I really had insomnia [22:04] indeed [22:05] glass of warm milk cures that [22:13] how cool is this http://news.discovery.com/tech/dna-legos-build-a-mini-space-shuttle-121130.html#mkcpgn=rssnws1 [22:22] Is er al snow in suid-afrika? [22:22] :-P [22:39] Bye :-)