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prospero1i tar'd the firmware all i did00:00
prospero1but why didn't the same work the first time00:00
vitimitibye00:00
nonkn4merprospero1: I've been following this most of the afternoon... glad it's finally working00:00
bobweaverenjoy it hope that you learned something today. That proprietary firmware is a pain in the maybe or at any rate good to see that it is working now00:00
prospero1nonkn4mer: thank you i've almost lost hope00:01
Virunganight00:01
bobweaverprospero1,  you  should 100% file a bug against that00:01
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prospero1how, at launchpad?00:02
bobweaverif you know how or have the time. well sorry do what you like but I would 100% fiule a bug00:02
prospero1wow linux is making my brain hurt00:02
bobweaverprospero1,  yeah  in terminal00:02
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bobweaverubuntu-bug firmware-b43-installer00:02
bobweaver!bug | prospero100:02
ubottuprospero1: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.00:02
bobweaverprospero1,  maybe title can be part of error msg in dmesg about the firmware that is missing00:03
bobweaver!bug 1045533 | prospero1  or you can just check that this affects you also00:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1045533 in linux (Ubuntu) "broadcom 4331 drivers not available" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104553300:04
mattt__Why would I be able to successfully use sudo or su in bash, but not in zsh?00:05
bobweaveror maybe file against jockey-gtk because it is not pulling it in auto style00:05
prospero1im on it didnt have launchpad acc00:05
bobweaverprospero1,  thanks for making Ubuntu better by filing bugs =)00:06
prospero1no prob, but what best to say in summary?00:07
almoxarifewhat apt-get command will show me the installed packages in size order, biggest first?00:09
george___ubuntu people suck donkey dicks...fuck them up their ass00:10
almoxarifegeorge seems angry00:11
mattt__what gave you that impression?00:11
almoxarifemattt__: :)00:11
mattt__:P00:11
Rosbuntu:P00:11
almoxarife!apt00:11
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)00:12
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blackshirthello00:15
prospero1bobweaver: how best should i describe it? put dmesg in?00:15
blackshirtwas ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as a platform supported ?00:16
maylowhi00:17
maylowik need help with grub install from live cd00:17
blackshirthi maylow00:17
maylowPath `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.00:17
bobweavermaybe jockey-gtk is not installing linux-firmware-nonfree     then you can passte the errors that you where getting00:17
maylowhere is my problme00:17
bobweaversorry prospero1  ^^^00:17
maylowhi blackshirt00:17
maylowanyone any ideas?00:18
blackshirtyou can boot through live cd and enter recover console to reinstall your grub... But exactly,why do you want to reinstall your grub?00:18
maylowblackshirt: i am in a chroot00:19
maylowblackshirt: and grub-install yelds00:20
maylow000:20
maylowPath `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.00:20
maylowthe root fs is restored by fsarchivert from another hdd00:20
Rosbuntui dont understand why ppl use ubuntu when they have xp or windows 7 pirated00:27
Rosbuntu:p00:27
bobweaverwonder whats on that pirated stuff ;)00:27
jribRosbuntu: #ubuntu-offtopic for that; this channel is for support with ubuntu :)00:28
Rosbuntujrib ;)00:28
linuxmintmayaso00:32
linuxmintmayaanyone know how to get mouse bindings to be persistent00:33
OerHeksin linux mint?00:33
linuxmintmayain ubuntu based distros00:33
linuxmintmayaits all relatively the same00:33
linuxmintmayait has to do with xinput00:33
bindirI'm trying to rename recursively all files that have : in the name to - but sed/awk are puking and so is python00:33
linuxmintmayaI need a certain xinput command to be run at startup...but after my mouse has been properly identified.....00:34
linuxmintmayahow do i do that00:34
bindirwe rsynced a volume from mac to zfs and it changed a bunch of stuff to the :00:34
linuxmintmayaI am currently having to unplug and replug my mouse every startup to get it to be reckognized00:34
linuxmintmayawhy?00:34
bindirlinuxmintmaya: is this in a VM?00:35
linuxmintmayavm?00:35
bindirvirtual machine00:35
linuxmintmayano00:35
bindiroh00:35
linuxmintmayaon a dualboot system00:35
linuxmintmayamint13 and win700:35
bindirwired mouse?00:35
linuxmintmayayes wired00:35
OerHekssounds like a mint issue, install ubuntu for the real deal.00:35
bindirplugged into a usb 2.0 port?00:35
linuxmintmayahttp://oi48.tinypic.com/2dkwshi.jpg00:36
linuxmintmayacheck it'00:36
linuxmintmayayes usb 2.000:36
bindirhmm I've seen that with keyboard/mice in usb 3.0 ports00:36
linuxmintmayaHID compliant mouse00:36
linuxmintmayaits listed twice for some reason...that might be the problem00:36
linuxmintmayais there some way to fix that?00:36
iceroot!mint | linuxmintmaya00:36
ubottulinuxmintmaya: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org00:36
bindirnot sure I haven't really used a mice much with linux00:36
linuxmintmayathey cant help me...there are no gurus there00:37
icerootlinuxmintmaya: doesnt matter00:37
linuxmintmayabeen at it for days now00:37
icerootlinuxmintmaya: this is for ubuntu not mint00:37
linuxmintmayamint is ubuntu btw00:37
linuxmintmayaherp derp00:37
bindirbased on*00:37
icerootlinuxmintmaya: its offtopic here, please respect that00:37
NaZZaXhey whats the file in apache that allows http access00:37
bindir.htaccess?00:37
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icerootubuntuprecise17: stop it00:38
ubuntuprecise17there happy00:38
ubuntuprecise17please help linux mint community is lacking in volume and the help crosses over00:38
icerootubuntuprecise17: as i said already, stop it, mint is offtopic here00:39
bindirinstall ubuntu, then install  apt-get install gnome-session-fallback00:39
bindirand y ou have ubuntu with gnome if that's why you're using mint00:39
ubuntuprecise17I need to execute a startup command after my mouse has been id'd by xinput00:39
ubuntuprecise17this is a LINUX related question not a mint one00:40
icerootubuntuprecise17: are you a troll?00:40
icerootubuntuprecise17: please go to the mint support channel00:40
bindirhe kinda has a point00:40
ubuntuprecise17like i already said....no one there can help, please dont be a dick00:40
icerootubuntuprecise17: we dont care, we support ubuntu here and now stop it please00:40
ubuntuprecise17my os is pretty much identical to yours so why wont you help me?00:41
OerHeksbindir, mint has its own issues, not related to ubuntu.00:41
bindirxinput set-prop "whatever you need set etc"00:41
NaZZaXi am working on openstack horizon with ms Active directory LDAP00:41
NaZZaXand i am getting Not Authorized00:41
wubinois there anyway to install firefox16 from apt?00:42
ubuntuprecise17if you look here00:42
icerootwubino: sudo apt-get install firefox00:42
ubuntuprecise17http://oi48.tinypic.com/2dkwshi.jpg00:42
iceroot!info firefox00:42
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 15.0.1+build1-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 19196 kB, installed size 39577 kB00:42
bindirbtw ubuntuprecise17: http://bit.ly/X67uSy00:42
iceroothm00:42
ubuntuprecise17you can see that xinput is naming my mouse twice and I think that might be the problem00:42
bindirhave been to the website google and typed your exact question in to the search box yet?00:43
icerootstrange, my firefox is ff17 why does ubottu tell me its 1500:43
IdleOneubuntuprecise17: This channel does not support Mint. Please stop asking in here, you might try ##linux if your distros channel can't help you00:43
OerHeksme too iceroot00:43
wubinoiceroot: apt wants to install 1700:43
bindirso anyone know shell scripting at all?00:43
RiXtErbindir, join #bash00:44
icerootOerHeks: ah its because its in precise-updates and precise-security but ubottu is only checking the main repo00:44
ubuntuprecise17thanks for nothing, way to support the linux community00:44
bindirthanks00:44
OerHeksany 6 weeks there is a new firefox00:44
wubinoiceroot:  it autoupdates for one and canonical looks lke they have been keeping up with mozilla releases from my cl00:45
icerootwubino: from the normal ubuntu-repos you will not get ff1600:45
icerootwubino: the repos are onyl holding the latest version, normally there are not two versions of a program (some exceptions like samba, python and so on)00:46
icerootwubino: is there a special reason why you need ff16?00:47
prospero1who can tell me a good intro book to linux00:47
wubinoiceroot: thanks that is what I suspected00:47
wolfygangdoes anyone know about android kernels?00:48
IdleOne##android00:49
wolfygangeveryones afk:/00:49
icerootwolfygang: offtopic here00:49
IdleOnewolfygang: be patient00:49
icerootare there any ways to run ubuntu on armV6? (rasperry pi?) as it seems ubuntu does not support that architecture just newer arm-chips00:50
IdleOneiceroot: #ubuntu-arm should know00:51
icerootIdleOne: thx, didnt know that00:52
OerHeksiceroot no, only arm v700:52
OerHeksthere is a possible download for FF 16 > https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/00:53
puppy_parademy video in totem is flickering above a certain size, and whenever I try and play on VLC, VLC has no borders/menu bar and is maximized and stuck on my central screen.00:56
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IdleOne!away > deadly-Away00:57
ubottudeadly-Away, please see my private message00:57
relipsethis is hilarious http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lD9FAOPBiDk00:58
IdleOnerelipse: No off topic links please00:58
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OerHekspuppy_parade, vlc shows menu in top panel, that is called global menu01:02
kn0neI installed k3b and two entries were put on Menu. How can I remove one?01:02
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puppy_paradeOerHeks, it doesn't.01:03
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puppy_paradeeven if I ctrl alt 1 there is no menu or borders01:03
OerHekspuppy_parade, maybe hit F11 ?01:03
puppy_paradethen it goes fullscreen; with the control box disappearing01:04
puppy_paradehmm, wait it worked01:04
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puppy_paradeI've done f11 before...01:04
OerHeks:-)01:04
puppy_paradelemme try opening it from a video01:05
puppy_paradethe menu is there now, but no video.01:05
puppy_paradesame issue as with totem, video only appears when the screen is smaller than a certain size01:06
puppy_paradea size, which decreases over time.01:06
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designbybeck__I have a Dell 17 Studio Laptop running Ubuntu 12.10.. I think it is overheating the system? could this be the case?01:06
designbybeck__it seems since 12.04 it has been running hotter?01:07
puppy_paradedo you have lm-sensors installed?01:07
designbybeck__what is that puppy_parade01:07
puppy_paradetemperature sensors01:07
puppy_paradeshould be in the repositories01:07
designbybeck__i'll check01:07
puppy_paradesearch for sensors01:08
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designbybeck__looking now01:08
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designbybeck__puppy_parade: i see a xsensors01:10
designbybeck__oh now i see the lm one01:10
puppy_paradeyou have to configure it, iirc, but I always just mash enter.01:11
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DaemonicApathyIs there any reason for me not to uninstall busybox on a standard desktop or server installation? Ubu 12.0401:11
designbybeck__k01:12
phy1729DaemonicApathy: is there a reson for you to uninstal it?01:12
DaemonicApathyphhy1729: Why keep track of updates for something I don't seem to use or need? It's just a waste of space, if it's not necessary. I try to keep my server as minimal as possible.01:13
DaemonicApathy*phy172901:13
phy1729DaemonicApathy: if you want as minimal as possible I wouldn't run ubuntu01:14
phy1729It's not hurting anything and diskspace is cheap01:14
bug-traqlucid was one of the better linux versions01:14
designbybeck__puppy_parade: how is it ran?01:15
puppy_parade"sensors"01:15
puppy_paradein the command line01:15
designbybeck__ah01:15
puppy_paradeit should ask you a bunch of questions, with a default answer set01:15
designbybeck__ah that doesn't seem to bad right now01:15
puppy_paradeaah, it works01:15
puppy_paradewoot01:15
DaemonicApathyphy1729: I didn't mean 'minimal' quite that drastically, but you have a fair enough point. Honestly, I just don't see a necessity for it, and wasn't sure if uninstalling would create any problems.01:15
designbybeck__though i think i'm about to fry an egg on this thing for dinner01:16
puppy_paradepsensors is a graphical interface01:16
puppy_paradethere are others01:16
designbybeck__thanks01:17
phy1729It's 1.6M and you're not entirely sure what it does and it's in /bin. I would not touch that. I would read the man page and realize how useful it could be for recovery.01:17
designbybeck__oh i was looking at c instead of F.... yeah these are running hot and I'm only on chat!!01:19
designbybeck__i closed Firefox with Facebook open01:19
designbybeck__so now just IRC01:19
designbybeck__and the fan is running and burning hot to the touch!!!!01:19
WeThePeoplehow do i get wireless working in fluxbox01:20
puppy_paradefor a laptop, shooting the fan with canned air usually does wonders.01:20
designbybeck__thanks puppy01:21
puppy_paradeor blowing it it to get dust out almost as well01:21
puppy_parade(with the machine off)01:21
blackshirtwethepeople, there cli version of network-manager, called nmcli...cmiiw01:21
puppy_paradealso, check to see if anything else is runningf01:21
puppy_paradesometimes I have compiz chewing away on a core.01:21
relipse does anyone know where the tradition came from to originally have it say Mrs. and Mr. <HisFirstName> <HisLastName> at weddings?01:22
designbybeck__compiz is only about 2%cpu01:23
rhaguhi, is there a canonical run ppa for newer kernel versions? 3.6 on 12.04 for example01:23
designbybeck__maybe i have to get one of those usb  laptop cooler pads!?01:24
bug-traqwethepeople try this to get wireless working on fluxbox ...... install NetworkManager-gnome01:24
user10980495Can't get images in dillo browser 3. I uncommented "load_images=YES" in dillorc file.01:25
WeThePeoplebug-traq, unable to locate package01:26
bug-traqhmm thats wierd01:27
poncholinuxerohi there01:33
poncholinuxerohola01:33
poncholinuxeroalguien de mexico?01:33
kakkinhola a todos01:34
phy1729!es01:34
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.01:34
bug-traqhey wethepeople ... do you see wicd network manager ??01:34
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kakkinalguien que use Emerald para hacerle una consulta01:35
UbuntuRoxHolly fucking shit my nipple is fucking orange01:35
UbuntuRoxoi01:35
UbuntuRoxsorry01:35
FloodBot1UbuntuRox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:35
kakkingracias amigo01:35
WeThePeoplebug-traq, i can ope it up01:36
WeThePeopleopen*01:36
bug-traqok , sometimes an update will remove it and you will need to install the dependencies for it01:38
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jesusemelendezmkakkin como estas?01:38
bug-traqsudo apt-get -f install01:38
bug-traqthat will reinstall the dependencies01:38
jesusemelendezmI am trying to connect to my ubuntu machine through SSH01:38
jesusemelendezmfrom my android phone.01:39
jesusemelendezmbut It doesn't to work out.01:39
dr_willis-works  great here jesusemelendezm  ;-)01:39
phy1729jesusemelendezm: does it have a public IP, is there a firewall?01:39
dr_willis-connectbot works well.01:40
jesusemelendezmIt doesn't but I am on my SOHO... Small office home network and I am using an C class of IP.01:41
WeThePeoplebug-traq, that didnt do anything01:41
jesusemelendezmAlso I have already sudo apt-get install openssh-server.01:41
jesusemelendezmshould I configure some additional features?01:41
dr_willis-yor set the routers port forwarding?01:41
jesusemelendezmconnecting through port 22, ssh01:41
WeThePeoplebug-traq, the hardware is enabled but the wifi isnt, idk how to enable the wifi01:41
jesusemelendezmI haven't.01:42
phy1729jesusemelendezm: what does "sudo service ssh status" give?01:42
jesusemelendezmprobably that's the reason why......01:42
dr_willis-be my first guess01:42
jesusemelendezmthe forwarding01:42
jesusemelendezmlet me check ssh status guys01:42
mattraehi, ubuntu 12.10 is supposed to add remote login using citrix ica. it doesn't work though.. ica client doesn't appear as an option http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/ubuntu-12-10-login-screen-adds-remote-desktop-access01:42
bug-traqwethepeople , you running ubu 12,04 ??01:43
dr_willis-you could forward sime port other than 22 also in case places  blick 2201:43
bug-traqok wethe people01:43
jesusemelendezmyes, guys I am running ubuntu 12.0401:44
jesusemelendezmI just built a ubuntu machine with 32 RAM for virtualization01:44
jesusemelendezmI am also running some other linux versions as guests..01:44
WeThePeoplebug-traq, yes.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398204/01:44
jesusemelendezmbut the host is 12.04 desktop but with server roles.01:44
phy1729jesusemelendezm: can you ssh in from another box on the lan?01:45
jesusemelendezmyes, I can do it. I just use a laptop and PUTYY software. It works!!! so that means... I shouldn't modify anything in my router. I am within my LAN. I am not going outside the world or from outside to inside the network......01:46
jesusemelendezmPhy1729... you give me more thoughts...01:46
phy1729jesusemelendezm: I assume you have a firewall between the internet and lan?01:47
dr_willis-so.. whats the problem jess jesusemelendezm ?01:47
jesusemelendezmsudo service ssh status is running!01:47
bug-traqwethepeople are you sure the wireless card in working ???01:47
WeThePeoplebug-traq, yes01:47
dr_willis-if the phone is on the local lan it should worl01:47
dr_willis-work...01:47
jesusemelendezmagain, I am not from outside..I am in the LAN. my phone is other node in the network... my phone has 192.168.0.9 and the ubuntu machine has 99.244.13.1701:48
jesusemelendezmI shouldn't modify anything in the router...01:48
bug-traqwethepeople try this in terminal  ....sudo lshw -C network01:48
bug-traqit will give you a lowdown of what is working and whats not and such01:48
dr_willis-99.244.xxxxxxx is the external ip?01:48
WeThePeoplebug-traq, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398217/01:49
bug-traqwethepeople is the wicd configured for wlano or wlan101:50
WeThePeoplewlan001:50
jValentinis there some special method to adding a user to the sudoers group in ubuntu?01:50
jribjValentin: no, just add the user to the "sudo" group.   You can use the command « sudo adduser USERNAME sudo » if you wish01:51
WeThePeoplebug-traq, it just needs to be enabled01:52
jValentinjrib: thanks, but I did that and he still couldn't do it until I manually modified the  /etc/sudoers/ and gave him ALL01:53
jribjValentin: you would need to login again for group membership to take effect01:53
jValentink, if that fails, will try a reboot01:54
jribjValentin: reboot is not necessary01:54
bug-traqthinking wethepeople01:54
jesusemelendezmsorry guys, There was a brownout and my system went down.01:54
jValentinah, you're right, he says he can sudo now01:54
jValentinthanks01:54
jesusemelendezmconnecting from SSH to my ubuntu machine.01:55
phy1729jesusemelendezm: how is your phone connected to your server?01:56
madrazrHi, I bought a new Samsung Series 9 Laptop with Windows 8 and installed Ubuntu (12.10) on it and I am locked out now, thanks to Secure Boot. Are there any how tos or manuals on how to get through this?01:56
jesusemelendezmwhat was the command to check the status of ssh ?01:56
phy1729sudo service ssh status01:56
jesusemelendezmmy phone is not connected yet. It is using the wireless network IEEE 802.11n01:57
WeThePeoplebug-traq, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398228/01:57
jesusemelendezmsame subnet.01:57
phy1729but another computer on the subnet can connect?01:57
WeThePeoplebug-traq, i have the eth0 plugged in right now idk if that is the problem01:58
TeamRocket1233cWhat's the chances of one of these playing nice with Ubuntu 12.10? http://www.amazon.com/Hewlett-Packard-Officejet-4620-Wireless/dp/B006M1N850/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1354240353&sr=1-401:58
jesusemelendezmwhat's the command to check the status of ssh server/01:59
jribjesusemelendezm: status ssh01:59
jrib!print | TeamRocket1233c02:00
ubottuTeamRocket1233c: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows02:00
WeThePeoplebug-traq, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398233/02:00
bug-traqwethepeople , do you see a network command line02:00
WeThePeoplebug-traq, idk wat you mean02:01
bug-traqin the network manager02:01
bug-traqwicd02:01
bug-traqits a terminal in the wicd02:01
WeThePeoplebug-traq, network manager and wicd are diff programs02:01
bug-traqyou may have to force wifi enabling02:01
WeThePeopleno i dont02:01
bug-traqyes but in networkmanager do you see a command line02:02
WeThePeopleno02:02
bug-traqhmmmm02:02
TeamRocket1233cCUPS is generally friendly to HP printers though?02:02
bug-traqwethepeople , what kinda pc you have02:03
WeThePeoplebug-traq, laptop hp zv-500002:04
jribTeamRocket1233c: I doubt you care much about whether it works in general; just if it works with the printer you buy :)  Though I imagine if you just have this thing sitting on the network and using the wireless, it shouldn't be a problem.  Check the links though for that model02:04
yhushasynaptic is failing to run02:04
bug-traqyou have a broken package yhusha in synaptic02:05
yhushao ok02:05
TeamRocket1233cjrib: Should work though.02:05
yhushawhats the sudo to find and repair broken packages02:06
bug-traqgo to file i believe it is and click on fix broken pkgs and then try to update or install something from synaptic02:06
bug-traqits in the synaptic02:06
bug-traqstill thinking wethepeople02:07
WeThePeoplebug-traq, lol..ok02:07
bug-traqif ya seen the command line in networkmanager i have the command to force enable wireless02:08
bug-traqyou might be able to try it on terminal , i havent tried it b4 , but it may work ???02:08
linux_loverHello Helpers. Is there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight on boot, xubuntu 12.10?02:09
bug-traqwethepeople try this in terminal ....      nmcli nm wifi on02:09
jesusemelendezmdone guys!02:10
WeThePeoplebug-traq, it worked02:10
WeThePeoplethanks02:10
jesusemelendezmthe problem was that I was using the HOST NAME instead of the HOST IP!!! I am connected now from my android phone to my ubuntu home server!!!! SSH02:11
linux_loverIs there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?02:11
jesusemelendezmthank you all02:12
linux_loverIs there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?02:12
linux_loverIs there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight of my DELL XPS 14z on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?02:14
dr_willis-checked askubuntu.com yet linux_lover ?02:15
linux_loverdr_willis, not yet02:15
bug-traqanytime wethepeople02:16
bug-traqglad to be able to help ya02:16
linux_lovermy question is too specific.02:17
linux_loveri just looked there is no similar problem02:17
jesusemelendezmI am thinking to buy the DELL vostro with ubuntu... or System 7602:17
jesusemelendezmany recommendation?02:17
Programmer_do you like linux, linux_lover02:17
linux_loveronly found solution on macbooks02:17
linux_loveri dumped windows after 20 years02:17
linux_loverlast week02:17
bug-traqwethepeople sometimes if you do a kernel update or upgrade , you may have to do that , ya may wanna save it somewhere02:17
lindenle_everytime ubuntu updates the kernel it takes forever and takes moy load up to 100%, has anyone sean this before02:18
linux_loverin short, yes02:18
TeamRocket1233cjesusemelendezm: System76 would probably be your best bet due to the higher likelihood of all the hardware being fully compatible with Ubuntu.02:18
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bug-traqewwwwwwwwwwwww    windows02:18
bug-traqthats a dirty word02:18
Programmer_lol02:18
Programmer_ive been using linux for about 2-3 years02:18
Programmer_what distro you on?02:18
bug-traqlast windows i had was 98 se02:18
TeamRocket1233cI'm very close to ditching MS.02:18
linux_loveri used linux since 200102:18
lindenle_seems to be the depmod run, is this normal?02:19
linux_loverbut only recently moved to windows completely02:19
bug-traqi stay with lucid, to me it is the fasdtest and most reliable02:19
bug-traqfastest02:19
bug-traqlol02:19
linux_loverbut only recently moved to linux completely02:19
TeamRocket1233c'Bout 95% switched over to Ubuntu, the other 5% that's holding me back is no web connection in my bedroom, and a sucky web connection.02:19
Programmer_so you on windows now?02:19
linux_loverbecause i can run windows within02:19
Programmer_<linux_lover> but only recently moved to windows completely02:19
linux_loversorry that was a mis-type02:20
Programmer_i only use windows for LoL and MS Office02:20
linux_loverlinux is snappu02:20
linux_loversnappy02:20
TeamRocket1233cProgrammer_: LibreOffice. Practically identical to MS Office.02:20
linux_lovercan any of you please help me02:20
Programmer_but my job forces me to use completely windows b/c i manage windows server and pcs :(02:20
bug-traq<--- pouring my last little drink of beer out and saying it is windows , lol the last drink is spit anyways02:20
bug-traqlol02:20
Programmer_TeamRocket1233c, i know but still02:20
linux_lover Is there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight of my DELL XPS 14z on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?02:21
Programmer_why would you want to disable?02:21
linux_lovernot disable completely, but only switch on on demand02:21
linux_loverbut not on boot, as I have to switch it off every time.02:22
linux_loversometimes when the lights are on, i cant see the keys02:22
seednodeI just use a Thinklight02:22
asterismoXBMC captures my mouse in the external monitor and i cannot move the mouse outside it, to another monitor02:22
asterismowhat should i do?02:23
linux_lover anyone can help my earlier question?02:23
TeamRocket1233cProgrammer_: But yeah, Ubuntu, and Linux in general but especially Ubuntu > Windows.02:23
linux_loverIs there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight of my DELL XPS 14z on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?02:23
TeamRocket1233cProgrammer_: More secure and stable than Windows, handles resources better, and is free, but that's a given, the part about Ubuntu that really makes it better than Windows is Unity.02:26
linux_loveri hate unity02:26
seednodeI love unity02:26
linux_loverthat is why i'm using xubuntu02:26
TeamRocket1233cMe too.02:26
bug-traqme too i disabled it and running classic02:26
linux_loveri have i7 8gb SSD and xubuntu02:27
TeamRocket1233cSearching for apps with the Dash and opening them via the Launcher actually seems quicker to me than searching through menus.02:27
yhushaso theres no way to fix broken packages because synaptic wont run in admin more02:27
yhushamode02:27
bug-traqnever thought bout admin mode yhusha02:27
almoxarifeyhusha: can you explain a bit more?02:28
linux_loverwhat is the point of Unity?02:28
yhushayea it says that it can not start in administrative mode02:28
almoxarifeyhusha: it?02:28
bug-traqto me , it is like vista was , with the sidebar02:28
yhushawhich is where all the ability to add remove fix edit so on is02:28
yhushait just shows what  installed02:28
yhushasynaptic02:28
TeamRocket1233clinux_lover: To make a UI that's quicker to browse through than GNOME 2, basically, and it's pretty effective at that.02:28
almoxarifeyhusha: open a terminal02:29
yhushaall set02:29
cyphasegah, gwibber is raising "OperationalError: disk I/O error"02:29
linux_loverbut adding launchers at panels are much faster02:29
linux_loverand less confusing02:29
almoxarifeyhusha: in terminal, >    gksu synaptic02:29
yhushaok that launched it02:30
angelpossumdam lots o people02:30
bug-traqmore the merrier02:30
linux_loverany of you from the UK?02:30
angelpossumi just figuerd out what the heck this is02:30
bug-traqmore questions and more answers02:30
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yhushaand it has ful ability nice02:30
almoxarifeyhusha: something about the applet you have on desktop is not set to invoke 'sudo/gsku'02:30
Programmer_TeamRocket1233c/linux_loveer just to see you knowledge, how would you back up your account on linux?02:30
TeamRocket1233cDon't really have an opinion on GNOME Shell.02:31
linux_lovermy account?02:31
angelpossumo Pokemon02:31
linux_loveri have my account with HSBC not with ubuntu02:31
TeamRocket1233cDidn't get into it enogh to develop an opinion.02:31
angelpossumam i invisible someone anser me02:31
yhushayes it started with the use of the e17 gui02:31
almoxarifeangelpossum: your not02:31
TeamRocket1233cangelpossum: Wobba!02:31
angelpossumo cool i thought i set this up wtong02:32
angelpossumlol02:32
angelpossumwobbafei02:32
linux_loverangelpossum I cannot see you, where are you?02:32
TeamRocket1233cangelpossum: *Wobbuffet*02:32
angelpossumwhat do  o i get it02:32
yhushae17 is of course "enlightenment"02:32
angelpossumf u yhusha phyc02:33
almoxarifeangelpossum: you have a question?02:34
bug-traqprogrammer , you talking about menu and apps or the whole thing backup ???02:34
angelpossumnot raelly well yes how do i send a message to a specifi person02:35
linux_loveri used Deja Dup02:35
kantlivelonghey all.. im setting up a raid 5 using mdadm.. im a bit confused on what to do.. i made autodetect partitions on each drive.. the total size will end up over 4TB requiring GPT.. do i need to make a partition on the md0?02:35
linux_loverit works well to back user-related data02:35
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angelpossumhey any one there02:36
bug-traqyes angel02:36
bug-traq what up02:36
dsa"sudo mv /xfolder/ /dev/null" doesn't work in ubuntu?02:36
angelpossumactually im a guy02:36
angelpossumnot much tho02:36
almoxarifeangelpossum: you have a question?02:37
bug-traqok , shoulda called you possum then ???/02:37
angelpossumjust chillin bein bord02:37
angelpossumdosnt matter i really could care less02:37
bug-traqdamn i help some people and learn something new every night in here02:38
almoxarife!ot | angelpossum<02:38
ubottuangelpossum<: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:38
angelpossumlol bug traq02:39
bug-traqanyone in here using linux , do any pentesting of any sort ????02:39
TeamRocket1233cWhich would be better for distribution? Ubuntu Unity or Lubuntu?02:39
TeamRocket1233cLike burning off and distributing to others.02:40
bug-traqalot depends on the video card you have02:40
TeamRocket1233cbug-traq: I mean as far as ease-of-use.02:40
bug-traq unity needs a certain strength or more for the full unity to work02:40
TeamRocket1233cbug-traq: I mean Lubuntu seems like it would be more widely adopted than Unity due to having a more familiar UI.02:41
bug-traqyup i would say lubuntu02:41
dr_willis-lubu tu is better for low end bixs. and will fit on a cd.02:41
bug-traqbut then again i still use lucid02:41
bug-traqlol02:41
TeamRocket1233cbug-traq: I'm a huge Unity fan, but that don't mean others are.02:41
dr_willis-but its lacking some  features02:41
angelpossumhey how do u send a message to a specific person02:42
bug-traqi am with ya teamrocket02:42
somsipangelpossum: /msg user02:42
bug-traqbut once i find a distro and and learn it , i tend to stick with it02:42
TeamRocket1233cbug-traq: I picked Unity up pretty much immediately, but most people would be all like "What the **** is this ****?" when they see it, due to being used to a taskbar and start menu, sorry 'bout the language.02:43
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rtg62ahi, after I upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to Ubuntu 12.10, my display became very dim, and instead of starting X, it just dropped to console mode. What can I do to fix this?02:43
bug-traqits cool  , yup i can see that02:43
bug-traqi havent used windows since windows 98 se02:44
angelpossumdid u get it or did i do it wrong somsip02:44
bug-traqmy wife was like that , she was a windows fan and i was showing her linux , she now loves and recommends it to everyone02:45
somsipangelpossum: I don't reply to personal messages. Do this with someone who is not busy02:45
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angelpossumo so u got it tho02:45
WACOMaltHey folks, I am trying to run a transmission-daemon seedbox on my 12.04 server. But when its running I get Error 102 Connection Refused from the web browser when I try to connect. Where are logs for things like this usually stored?02:45
TeamRocket1233cbug-traq: The reaction I depicted is the general reaction to the Win8 UI, and was the general reaction to Unity when it debuted, and I think people are still, to this day, having trouble with GNOME Shell.02:45
bug-traqlol yup02:46
WACOMaltCinnamon FTW02:46
TeamRocket1233cbug-traq: Win8's taking a lot of flak just for the Modern UI.02:46
WACOMaltI dont like my PC telling me I'm too dumb to have a non-dumbed-down UI02:46
almoxarifeangelpossum: chat is welcome on #ubuntu-offtopic02:47
WACOMaltSo anyone know how I can check if my server is running on port 9091?02:47
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invisibleheeroHey guys, I'm unable to control my volumen using the volume control. however I can change it using alsamixer. How to I restore the functionality of the volume?02:48
WACOMaltalso how can I list all users in my terminal?02:48
invisibleheeroWACOMalt, have you looked at the users command?02:49
WACOMaltnope, no idea it existed :)02:49
invisibleheeroalthough I think that's the users logged in02:50
WACOMaltyeah just shows my name02:50
bug-traqtry pulseaudio invisibleheero02:50
invisibleheerotry cat /etc/password02:50
invisibleheeroerrg02:50
almoxarifeinvisibleheero: did you tweak pulseaudio prior to the sound issues?02:50
invisibleheerocat /etc/passwd02:50
invisibleheeroI use alsa not Pulse and I just installed ubuntustudio02:51
WACOMaltholygod, tons of users...02:51
invisibleheeroyeah that's all the users02:51
bug-traqwell i guess for bill gates sake , i hope win8 comes out ok , linux is on the rise big time02:52
bug-traqlol02:52
invisibleheeroWACOMalt, that's pretty normal though for a server. because you run certain applications at low level02:52
robertzaccourIs there a way to download ndisgtk as a .deb file?02:52
WACOMaltI installed transmission, a long time ago, as a web service. No idea what user I used to install it but when I try to relaunch its service as root I cannot connect to the port (9091)02:53
almoxariferobertzaccour: sure, find it on the web02:53
WACOMaltHmm when I log in with one of my new users, I am not in bash, but in some other prompt with just a $02:54
TeamRocket1233cbug-traq: I'll probably just use Lubuntu for distributing to others to be safe.02:55
bug-traqif i may here is the link for the deb file ndisgtk  for robertzaccour          http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/ndisgtk/download02:55
TeamRocket1233cbug-traq: Requires the least resources, and its UI is the most familiar to Windows users.02:55
WACOMaltAnyone know why I'm just getting a $ prompt rather than bash on login?02:55
robertzaccouralmoxarife: the downloads I found are just 21kb?02:55
bug-traqcool02:55
WACOMaltif I type bash I get the traditional prompt02:55
bug-traq i havent beeen a windows fan since i learned about linux years ago02:56
robertzaccourbug-traq: those downloads are 21kb02:56
jribWACOMalt: how was your user created?02:56
almoxariferobertzaccour: why is the size an issue?02:56
WACOMaltI honestly dont remember02:56
WACOMaltuseradd?02:56
robertzaccourbug-traq: well my network and wireless drivers don't work in Linux, so trying to get a windows driver running in it02:56
WACOMaltin terminal though for sure. its headless02:56
bug-traqall i pretty much know about it , is that vista came out too early and windows 7 is easily fixed with a bootloader02:56
robertzaccouralmoxarife: I'm used to .deb file sizes being much larger. Wasn't aware it could possibly a full program.02:57
bug-traqoh i got ya02:57
jribWACOMalt: getent passwd $USERNAME02:57
WACOMalt/home/WACOMalt:/bin/sh02:57
TeamRocket1233cbug-traq: Meanwhile Xubuntu would be the most familiar to Mac fans.02:57
bug-traqyup02:57
jribWACOMalt: you probably want to use /bin/bash, not /bin/sh (which points to dash).  Use chsh to change your shell02:57
robertzaccourTeamRocket1233c: Actually I think Gnome Shell with Docky would be most "mac like"02:58
TeamRocket1233cbug-traq: I mean aside from the windows minimizing to the top panel, Xubuntu looks a little OSX-like.02:58
garhow do i unignore in x-chat02:58
bug-traqreally02:58
TeamRocket1233crobertzaccour: Where that land Unity at?02:58
bug-traq i never really tried a mac02:58
WACOMaltThank you jrib, that worked.02:58
bug-traq i have worked on them some for a friend  , about it02:59
robertzaccourTeamRocket1233c: like nothing else?? haha02:59
|Nordom|I a ubuntu nub, Is there a way to run a windows VM instead of having to duel boot or use wine?02:59
TeamRocket1233crobertzaccour: lol02:59
WACOMaltjrib, any idea how I can check if a service is listening on a port? Specifically transmission-daemon on port 909102:59
jribWACOMalt: make sure your user has an existing home directory too...02:59
WACOMaltit does02:59
jribWACOMalt: there's some lsof syntax you can use02:59
TeamRocket1233crobertzaccour: I could see how the Global Menus and the Launcher would seem a little Mac-like.02:59
somsip|Nordom|: runs fine in virtualbox here02:59
|Nordom|somsip:  what do you mean?03:00
robertzaccourTeamRocket1233c: yeah, applies to Gnome Shell, and Docky is by default at the bottom.03:00
WACOMaltholycrap lsof is complex03:00
bug-traqvmware03:00
junglefrogthe ubuntu.com download page is broken03:00
|Nordom|I am asking can windows run in some kinda of VM so I dont need to duel boot to play games, or is wine a VM and thus I have to duel boot anyways?03:00
somsip|Nordom|: windows works fine in a virtual machine in virtualbox for me.03:00
jribWACOMalt: it's « lsof -i :N » where N is the port number iirc03:00
WACOMaltthanks :)03:00
junglefrogtrying to download 12.10 64bit03:00
junglefrogonce it goes past the donate page03:00
junglefrogit starts downloading 32bit 10.0403:01
bug-traqyes nordom , you can use virtualbox03:01
junglefrogyeah...03:01
WACOMalthmm jrib that returns nothing03:01
junglefrogsomeone need to tell the admin to fix it03:01
jribWACOMalt: might need to use sudo?03:01
jribWACOMalt: I'm actually not sure if that is necessary03:01
WACOMaltoh whoops this user isnt in sudoers :X03:02
|Nordom|bug-traq: so you mean I will no longer have to duel boot in order to use window programs including games with a virtualbox?03:02
bug-traqyup03:02
bug-traq make sure to get the guest additions also03:02
angelpossumhey how do i click on link for msges03:02
WACOMalthow do I add a user as a sudoer?03:02
|Nordom|cool, I am duel booting, so is there away to use vitualbox and keep stuff thats already on my windows partition?03:03
jribWACOMalt: sudo adduser USER sudo03:03
TeamRocket1233cbug-traq: You can always try using 12.04 or 12.10 with MATE or Cinnamon, assuming you're the one on Lucid.03:03
bug-traqwhen you set it up , make sure to give it enough ram , but not too much that you taking away from the host machine03:03
bug-traqi am the one on lucid03:03
bug-traqi have come to love lucid03:04
bug-traq it has many , many possibilities03:04
almoxarife|Nordom|: thats a win issue, you get to resolve that one03:04
TeamRocket1233cbug-traq: You can get the same functionality from Precise or Quantal if you put MATE on those.03:04
WACOMalthmm ok sudo lsof -i :80 returns apache2 as expected, and 9091 returns nothing, so the service is definitely not working03:04
|Nordom|on my main gaming pc I have 16 gigs of ram... But log into windows exclusively to game instead of my beloved linux... Are there any pitfalls to using windows in a VM ?03:04
bug-traq it seeems and additions to the repository i edit works just great and no broken pkgs or worries03:04
WACOMaltnow to find where logs for services are stored?03:04
somsipWACOMalt: /var/log03:05
almoxarife|Nordom|: this is not the win-virtual help page03:05
WACOMalt|Nordom|, gaming simply wont work as well in linux over a VM in windows.03:05
angelpossumhey how do i click on link for msges03:05
AlexWebrangelpossum: what does that mean?03:05
TeamRocket1233cbug-traq: I mean Lucid IS losing support in April, along with Oneiric.03:05
bug-traqthe reaction time will be slower than normal probly , but not much more than that nordom03:06
|Nordom|almoxarife: as a ubuntu user, I am looking for ways to make ubuntu better for me. I feel that this coversation isnt too outside the realms of the channel03:06
|Nordom|WACOMalt: is it better then wine? Do you play games this way?03:07
bug-traqi  have lucid as my host machine and run bug-traq as my virtual and use it to pentest websites and apps with , not much difference to me nordom03:07
WACOMaltjrib, success! thanks. Though none of the stuff you helped with was my actual issue (I was an idiot and did reload instead of start on the service)03:07
almoxarife|Nordom|: well, sort of is, your questions are all related to 'how will win act in a vm?' , thats not linux/ubuntu related, at all!03:07
AlexWebrwhy wuld I use ubuntu when minix has been arond wayyyyy longer?03:07
WACOMalt|Nordom|, definitely better than wine IMO, but still expect worse GPU support than native windows.03:07
jribWACOMalt: heh03:08
|Nordom|almoxarife: if you get more publishers to make linux supported programs, I wouldn't be asking these sort of questions.03:08
|Nordom|WACOMalt: Thx, I will check it out03:08
WACOMaltok I'm off, thanks again jrib and anyone else who helped :)03:08
AlexWebri want to use ubuntu but i think minix is better.03:08
WACOMaltI love Ubuntu aside from the UI :P but thankfully on linux that isnt an issue like it is on Win803:09
AlexWebrwhy shuld i use ubuntu over minix?03:09
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TeamRocket1233cAlexWebr: Newer stuff.03:09
|Nordom|AlexWebr: personal prefence?03:09
AlexWebrminix has a microkernel tho03:09
AlexWebrwhich is superior03:10
|Nordom|AlexWebr: because if you use ubuntu, ur version of ubuntu will have a rediculous name! Thus it is better!03:10
AlexWebrcan i use microkernel with ubuntu?03:10
buarpeople, who can help me with instruction for canon ip1800 printer driver?03:10
AlexWebrhow can i use microkernel with ubuntu?03:11
mylastbreathi have ubuntu 12.04 dual booted with win7, the upgrade to 12.10 failed because it did not have enough hard drive space.  Is there a way to roll it back to preupgrade or install over it and keep the data?03:11
TeamRocket1233cI G2G for the night, I'll BBT. Bye! -wave-03:11
bug-traqteamrocket1233c: yeah i know , but if ya find something ya like and can get around with ease and is setup the way ya want it ... it is hard to set it aside and try something ya have to learn all over again03:12
AlexWebrhow can i use microkernel with ubuntu?03:13
bug-traqhow big of a harddrive ya have mylastbreath ????03:13
angelpossumalex did u get my msg03:13
AlexWebrangelpossum: no03:13
jesusemelendezmNordo wrong page..03:14
jesusemelendezmwe know about Linux03:14
jesusemelendezmwe offer free help.03:14
AlexWebrhow can i use minix kernel with ubuntu03:14
somsipAlexWebr: you cant03:14
bug-traqlater teamrocket HAGN03:15
AlexWebri try apt-get install minix and it doesnt work03:15
mylastbreathover 100G total, it is an acer netbook03:15
AlexWebri also tried dpkg -i minix and it says i am not root03:15
somsipAlexWebr: read up on what minix is03:15
mylastbreathlooking for stats on it, I am in a live usb right now03:15
angelpossumsomeone invited me 2  #ubuntu-offtopicand i have no idea how to get there03:15
bug-traqtype sudu su 1st alexwebr03:16
AlexWebri did03:16
AlexWebri want microkernel in ubuntu03:16
AlexWebrso i can self heal03:16
AlexWebrwhat is the codes to get minix kernel into ubuntu03:16
angelpossumalex u can read it now alex its a couple msges up03:17
angelpossumoops i didnt meen 2 say ur name 203:18
AlexWebri googled minix but i cant find codes to get minix kernel into ubuntu03:18
AlexWebrdo i need openbsd modules03:19
mylastbreathbug-traq: do I have options beside backing up the data and clean installing ubuntu?03:19
TomM2I was wondering if you could upgrade from a Ubuntu DVD?03:19
AlexWebri am wondering if i can use ssh to hack minix into ubuntu03:19
TomM2Since do-release-upgrade is failing.03:19
AlexWebris it possible?03:19
bug-traqalexwebr : you have to download the iso for minix and use it on virtualbox or any other virtual system03:19
AlexWebryou dont understsand03:19
AlexWebri want minix kernel in ubuntu03:20
AlexWebri tar the source code and it doesnt work03:20
AlexWebri do03:20
bug-traqyou would probly have to try to get the repository for it and do a distr-upgrade then if you just want the kernel03:20
AlexWebr'./kern.c' and it says '-bash: ./kern.c: Permission denied03:21
somsip!who | bug-traq03:22
ubottubug-traq: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)03:22
bug-traqit is possible to get 2 different distros put together , but it may also break your distro03:22
AlexWebrhow do i fix my error?03:22
bug-traqsorry all , i was talking to alexwebr03:22
bug-traqlol03:22
bug-traq my bad03:23
AlexWebrwhy does nobody help me03:23
somsipbug-traq: you're trying to be helpful which is cool03:23
Sazhen86AlexWebr:  You can run a .c file, you have to compile it first03:23
Sazhen86AlexWebr:  Can't03:24
AlexWebrSazhen86: what is compile?03:24
bug-traqsomsip:i just got lost in the typing, i am a 1 finger typer, lol03:24
somsipbug-traq: use tab for autocompletion of names03:24
somsip!tab | bug-traq03:24
ubottubug-traq: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.03:24
Sazhen86AlexWebr:  A compiler turns source code into executable code03:24
AlexWebrSazhen86: oh, i know c03:25
bug-traqsomsip:thank you03:25
AlexWebri got a+03:25
Sazhen86AlexWebr:  Getting a Minix kernel into Linux could take a lot of work though03:25
somsipAlexWebr: and it wouls not be supported here as it is not an official package03:26
AlexWebryou guys are smart though. what are the codes?03:26
Sazhen86AlexWebr:   Not me!  I'm happy with the Linux kernel03:26
AlexWebrsomsi that is okay03:26
BinaryCrystalAny tips on removing lightdm and unity?03:26
bug-traqAlexWebr: try this link and it explains how to add minix to ubuntu   http://wiki.minix3.org/en/DevelopersGuide/UsingGit03:27
AlexWebrSazhen86: you shodnlt be because microkernel is superior03:27
AlexWebrSazhen86: linux is complet shit03:28
Sazhen86AlexWebr: That's a step too far, I fear03:28
BinaryCrystalAlexWebr: I agree03:28
AlexWebrSazhen86: because it is written on top of mach03:28
somsipbug-traq: that page is about minix development. It has nothing to do with ubuntu from what I can tell03:28
bug-traqBinaryCrystal: you can disable unity , not sure about the  lightdim03:29
AlexWebrso how do i run c file?03:29
BinaryCrystalbug-traq: is there anyway I can completely replace it, or avoid installation in the first place?03:30
AlexWebri want to run minix kernel in ubuntu03:30
Sazhen86AlexWebr: You compile it first03:30
AlexWebrwhat does it mean03:30
somsipAlexWebr: it's time to stop now. You have been told many times that this is not supported in this channel. Please desist03:30
AlexWebrokay03:30
mylastbreathBinaryCrystal: are you looking to remove it and use a different windows manager?  What windows manager do you want to use?03:30
bug-traqsomsip: i am looking at it right now and it is telling the commands how to install minix clone repository and stuff03:30
somsipbug-traq: for minix development, yes. But can we move off this topic?03:31
BinaryCrystalmylastbreath: more than likely dwm or awesome03:31
bug-traqsomsip:  thank you , because alexwebr was looking anyway03:32
somsipBinaryCrystal: you can installed awesome to work with gnome for a tryout03:32
AlexWebrsomsip: but ubuntu is about choice03:32
somsipAlexWebr: and this channel is about support for official packages03:32
BinaryCrystalsomsip: arent' the kernel build tools official packages?03:32
AlexWebrsomsip: minix is very official03:33
somsipBinaryCrystal: he is asking about integrating a minix kernel in ubuntu, which is offtopic03:33
AlexWebrsomsip: it has been around longer than linux in fact03:33
somsipAlexWebr: offical *ubuntu*packages. Stop it now. I'm being polite. Can you respect the purposes of this channel please?03:33
bug-traqeveryone , have a great night  , time for bed to get up for work in 6 hrs03:34
AlexWebrokay somsip i am sorry03:34
mylastbreathBinaryCrystal: not sure about preventing Unity from installing at all.  might be able to change the sources for where it pulls the repos from.03:34
bug-traq<------- pooooooooooooooooooof03:34
AlexWebri have another question03:35
AlexWebran ubuntu pros here03:35
BinaryCrystalmylastbreath: wouldn't that mean you have to modify the install media to avoid the repos?03:35
kvothetech_AlexWebr: just asx03:35
somsipBinaryCrystal: if you want to avoid the standard light-dm/unity thingy, it might be easier to do a minimal install, then install awesome and a login manager over that. I did that with slim and awesome. Works fine and is cleaner than trying to remove standard packages03:35
somsipAlexWebr: thank you03:36
BinaryCrystalsomsip: hmm that's what I thought I could do but doesn't the minimal install include the GUI components03:37
AlexWebrhow do i write kernel module03:37
AlexWebri want to help linux03:37
mylastbreathBinaryCrystal: yes, it would, and then if you felt so inclined to, roll your own customized version.  somsip's suggestion is cleaner though.03:37
seednodeAlexWebr: What programming languages do you know?03:37
Sazhen86AlexWebr:   http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/2.6/html/lkmpg.html03:37
kvothetech_AlexWebr: do you know any programming preferably c?03:37
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AlexWebri took c in school03:38
AlexWebri know about object, class, bytecode03:38
AlexWebri got a+03:38
somsipAlexWebr: I somehow doubt this is a genuine request from you after your talk about minix, but here: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved03:38
AlexWebrsomsip: i am sorry i am new to opensource03:39
BinaryCrystalThanks guys :)03:39
BinaryCrystalThis also relates to AlexWebr s question, can I program modules in other languages other thatn C?03:39
somsipAlexWebr: And here for kernel http://kernel.org/03:39
AlexWebrsomsip: it is just some ugly website03:39
Sazhen86AlexWebr:  Objects and classes are a C++, Java etc. concept, not C and bytecode is a c# or Java concept, again not C03:39
somsipAlexWebr: try the FAQ. If you show this level of disdain and lack of initiative, maybe kernel maintenance is not for you03:40
AlexWebrsomsip: i can do it! i want to learn03:40
rtg62ahello, how do I re-install apt? My console tells me 'apt: command not found'03:40
AlexWebrsomsip: disdain is what03:40
mylastbreathyes, Ubuntu has gcc, and it can handle quite a bit.03:41
AlexWebri will google it03:41
kvothetech_rtg62a: try apt-get03:41
AlexWebrsomsip: my english is not so good03:41
AlexWebrsomsip: i googled disdain03:41
kvothetech_somsip: i think he's just trolling=03:41
AlexWebrsomsip: i don't mean to show you disrespect03:41
AlexWebrsomsip: if that is what you mean03:41
AlexWebrsomsip: i am sorry03:42
somsipkvothetech_: I believe so too. I am being polite, but I'll just ignore him if he gets too annoying03:42
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AlexWebri am sorry03:42
BinaryCrystalShould I start out with ubuntu or a different distribution if I want to make a home workstation, mainly for software dev, and some minor web/graphics?03:43
AlexWebrtry minix binrarycrystal03:44
somsipBinaryCrystal: the official line you'll get in a ubuntu channel is to use ubuntu.03:44
somsipBinaryCrystal: I use it for web dev. I like the idea of Arch, but found it too flakey03:44
BinaryCrystalsomsip: but I'm asking for an experienced opinion03:44
kvothetech_BinaryCrystal: up to you what distro you use theoretically all of them can do exactly the same thing03:44
kvothetech_just some may require more effort to get how you want it03:44
somsipBinaryCrystal: then try the factoids for !best and !poll03:44
AlexWebr1best03:45
AlexWebrwoops03:45
BinaryCrystal!best03:45
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.03:45
AlexWebr!best03:45
AlexWebr!poll03:45
BinaryCrystalubottu: okay, i'm ok with distros, but IRC is a bit meh to me (not used to it)03:46
AlexWebr!poll03:46
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.03:46
AlexWebr!best03:46
kvothetech_AlexWebr: stop fucking spamming the bot03:46
somsipAlexWebr: it does not show the same response too quickly to stop people from doing what you are doing.03:47
AlexWebri didn't get to try !best yet03:47
kvothetech_it said it twice03:47
somsipAlexWebr: it's the same.03:47
IdleOne!language | kvothetech_03:47
ubottukvothetech_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.03:47
AlexWebroh i didn't know03:47
zecken-droidemoin moin03:49
AlexWebrfor my operating systems course i need to write a kernel so i thought i could put minix into ubuntu03:49
AlexWebror use kernel module03:49
BinaryCrystalAlexWebr: have you tried HURD?03:49
AlexWebrwhat is hurd?03:49
somsipAlexWebr: it's offtopic03:49
AlexWebrokay somsip03:50
somsipAlexWebr: feel free to talk stuff like this in #ubuntu-offtopic03:50
linuxnero/clearall03:50
BinaryCrystalAlexWebr: http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/ an alternative free kernel03:50
AlexWebrfreeer than linux, jajaja03:50
AlexWebrfunny03:50
BinaryCrystalja03:51
TomM2I get this error every time I try to run "Update Manager"03:52
TomM2http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398333/03:52
kvothetech_TomM2: do you have pygtk installed03:53
TomM2Let me check.03:54
somsipTomM2: and what version of ubuntu?03:54
TomM2Someguy123, Precise.03:54
kvothetech_TomM2: if you do is it wherever line 26 is looking for it03:55
Someguy123TomM2, =_=03:55
Someguy123tabfail much03:55
AlexWebrhow do I write kernel module03:55
TomM2Oh.03:55
TomM2When I tried to see if it was installed.03:55
TomM2It was not installed.03:55
TomM2And I tried to install it and this happened, E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-minimal'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)03:55
kvothetech_AlexWebr: www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html03:56
somsipTomM2: did you upgrade from an old version of ubuntu or fresh install?03:56
AlexWebrkvothetech_: thank you kvothetech_03:56
TomM2I upgraded.03:56
AlexWebrkvothetech_: i will read it and report back03:56
kvothetech_AlexWebr: don't bother03:57
TomM2I normally run "do-release-upgrade" but that is failing currently.03:57
somsipTomM2: yeah - I see a lot of results with that error relating to upgrades. You might need to read through some and get direty with dpkg03:57
somsip*dirty03:58
TomM2I don't have time to play with dpkg.03:58
somsipTomM2: there are solutions out there, but all I'd be doing is throwing ideas from google searches at you.03:59
AlexWebrHow Do I Write A Kernel Module?03:59
TomM2I have already googled this and it returns nothing relevant to my question.03:59
somsipTomM2: eg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults/+bug/99074003:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 990740 in python-defaults (Ubuntu) "upgrading from lucid to precise fails" [High,Invalid]03:59
TomM2Already tried everything there.04:00
TomM2Nothing is working.04:00
AlexWebri want to make a character device that says lol all the time when i read it, how do i do it?04:00
AlexWebrwhat are the codes?04:00
IdleOneAlexWebr: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not general linux questions. You can try ##linux04:00
somsipIdleOne: thank you04:00
TomM2All python-minimal does is throw these errors at me, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398344/04:00
AlexWebrIdleOne: thank-you IdleOne04:01
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AlexWebrI am writing the module for Ubuntu. Can you give me the codes then?04:01
somsipTomM2: that still looks like a broken upgrade problem to me, but only because it was similar to something I had before and I did have to fiddle with dpkg caches for a while to get it working. I can offer you no easy solution. sorry04:01
AlexWebrI am sorry if my english is hard to read04:01
RickZillaI'm using a persistent USB install, if I go ahead and install it to my HD, will it keep all my changes so far? Or do I have to start all over again?04:02
IdleOneAlexWebr: Your English is fine, what is hard to understand is why you insist on asking questions that have nothing to do with Ubuntu and when you do get it, you lie. Please stop wasting our time.04:02
ejoTomM2: would you consider just saving any important files then doing a clean install of your chosen Ubuntu version?04:03
ejothere are so many places where clean installs save headaches04:03
AlexWebrDoes a less rude person can help me?04:03
IdleOneAlexWebr: Nobody is going to be more helpful than me in your case. Please use ##linux for general linux support04:04
TomM2Hmmm.04:04
kvothetech_AlexWebr: read the link i gave you then follow the directions then ask your question in a relevant area and you will get a better answer04:04
k1lumin4t1hey04:04
AlexWebrIdleOne: you are not helpful to me04:04
TomM2I'll probably have to do a fresh install.04:04
AlexWebrkvothetech_: i read some of it it was hard to follow04:04
k1lumin4t1I'm having issues with network printing on Ubuntu 12.04. I can print through localhost without any problems to a printer, but cannot do it trough network share using neither the process of adding the remote printer on the client using the web interface nor using the client.conf file to specify the ServerName directive04:06
k1lumin4t1It asks me for an authentication thing which never asked me before04:06
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k1lumin4t1any help?04:08
AlexWebrnot here k1lumin4t104:08
k1lumin4t1AlexWebr, where then?04:09
AlexWebrk1lumin4t1: try ##linux04:09
techlobyte1how do I view users logged in, in xchat04:11
rtg62aWhen I try to start X, I get this error: 'Fatal Server Error, no screens found.' how can I fix that?04:11
kvothetech_techlobyte1: ? in xchat uh are you connected through a bnc?04:11
techlobyte1what's a bnc?04:12
techlobyte1xchat-gnome04:12
techlobyte1screwing with my head04:12
BinaryCrystalhttp://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3rz9i2/04:13
ripperbnc brittish naval connector04:13
techlobyte1bnc BiNary Crystal04:14
Sazhen86techlobyte1: It's short for a bouncer04:14
techlobyte1I dream of having a bouncer, but not that I know of04:15
techlobyte1he could go to the bar with me and throw out the bartender04:15
IdleOne!ot04:15
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:15
ripperman im board04:18
ripperneed something to do04:18
robertzaccourMy new laptop's network and wireless cards currently don't work in Linux. What are the odds of them soon being compatible?04:20
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TaJMoXI installed Windows on a second partition, now I can't get back into Linux. What's the best way to install a boot loader in that situation?04:28
TaJMoXLink would work thanks04:29
somsipTaJMoX: you may need a live CD and boot-repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair04:30
jerry_l1which ver of windows?04:30
TaJMoXsomsip Thanks that looks perfect04:30
TaJMoXjerry_l1 Windows 804:30
somsipTaJMoX: ah - you may need to find some up to date info regarding win8. I have no idea if it does somethign unexpected by boot-repair04:31
robertzaccourhow do you force install 32 bit packages?04:32
jerry_l1can you look up dual boot Vista a ubuntu.04:32
jerry_l1you said win8 and ubuntu?04:32
dr_willisrobertzaccour: what packages?04:32
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robertzaccourdr_willis: my network and wireless cards aren't compatible with ubuntu, so I decided to download ndisgtk .deb file and my wireless driver from toshiba. my plan was to install ndisgtk and use it to install my windows driver. problem is it says wrong architechture. I forgot how to force install 32 bit packages.04:34
BlackWebI'm running Ubuntu Server 12.04, Which I was wondering if its possible to have my server set up to stream movies from the Hard Drive Over WAN? Right now I have it set to SSH, & VSFTP into it, & Heard you can do something similar with NFS but Loooking into all options?04:35
dr_willisi would think there are 64bit ndisgtk packages. or course  if the chipsets are too new for 12.10 to work id bet they are too new for ndisgtk also.  testing with 13.04 may be a good idea to see if it works in there.04:36
dr_willisive rarely seen a wired nic not work04:36
robertzaccourdr_willis: already tried the latest 13.04 build, no dice.04:37
evilmoorobertzaccour: what does 'lspci|grep Ethernet' say?04:37
robertzaccourevilmoo: in windows now04:38
evilmooah04:38
Ben64how do i make isc-dhcp-server start on boot04:38
dr_williswhat kind of card does windows say it is? ;)04:38
robertzaccourjust found a 64 bit .deb of ndisgtk I'll try that04:39
robertzaccourglad I found it04:39
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dr_willisits possible one of the current driver/modules would woek with it.. but its not detecting the right chipet to load the module04:39
evilmoorobertzaccour: under device manager, go to network devices, find the card, pick the 'details' tab, and pick 'Hardware Ids'. what does the first line say?04:40
robertzaccourevilmoo: my wireless card is a Realtek RT8723AE04:40
nardevis there a way to listen serial port at 9600 bits per second at ttyACM004:40
nardevis there a way to listen serial port at 9600 bits per second at ttyACM004:40
robertzaccourgonna test my luck here with ndisgtk thanks later yall04:41
evilmoorobertzaccour: good luck04:41
dr_willislisten?  try a serial terminal program line  minicom?04:41
k1lumin4t1I'm having issues with network printing on Ubuntu 12.04. I can print through localhost without any problems to a printer, but cannot do it trough network share using neither the process of adding the remote printer on the client using the web interface nor using the client.conf file to specify the ServerName directive04:41
robertzaccourthanks04:41
k1lumin4t1It asks me for an authentication thing which never asked me before04:41
robertzaccourprefer gui for the most part except for really short simple stuff like install and stuff04:41
NewUbuntuUserhello04:42
nardevk1lumin4t1, is it a network printer?04:42
k1lumin4t1nardev, nope, a local printer through usb04:43
dr_willisor a shared printer on the ubntu box?04:43
DBoyzHi. How do i change DNS settings on 12.1004:43
nardev:( ok k1lumin4t104:43
k1lumin4t1dr_willis,  a local printer through usb shared via cups04:43
dr_willisso you got a windows box trying to print to a samba shared printer on a linux box04:43
NewUbuntuUserdoes anyone have any familiarity with installing wine?  I went through the software center, but the application doesn't show up04:43
NewUbuntuUseronly to configure it, remove it, and winetricks04:43
nardevDBoyz, should be in /etc/resolv.conf04:43
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Ben64NewUbuntuUser: you can't really run wine by itself, you need to run an exe with it04:44
k1lumin4t1dr_willis, not at all, a ubuntu 10 box printing to a ubuntu 12.04 box04:44
dr_willisNewUbuntuUser:  wind dosent have an icon like other apps04:44
g00053maybe this isn't the right place to ask , but when I use soundconverter to convert an mp4 to mp3 the audio comes out gross sounding . can someone recommend a better way ?04:44
subterfuge1750I'm stumped -- Using ubuntu 12.04 but need a little help at the command line ---- I want to search a directory and all sub directories for any and all audio/video/image files and then have it make a symbiotic link in a separate directory for each file found using the files original name -- can anyone help me with the syntax of this, Thanks04:44
Ben64g00053: mencoder + lame04:44
NewUbuntuUserright, I am trying to run a windows visual studio 2010 express04:44
dr_willisk1lumin4t1:   hmm. then you dont need samba at all . ;) you should be able to use the cups web interface and configure both machines04:44
DBoyznardev: but it says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN"04:45
NewUbuntuUserarchive manager won't let it run, so I installed wine04:45
nardevDBoyz, try...04:45
g00053Ben64, Lame is saying it's an unsupported audio format04:45
NewUbuntuUsernow all the stuff I look up says to run it through wine04:45
nardevDBoyz, linux would not be what it is if it was so stupid and strict as windows :D04:45
Ben64g00053: thats why mencoder first, to rip the audio out of the mp404:45
NewUbuntuUserbut apparently I can't do that right04:45
k1lumin4t1dr_willis, where did I say I was using samba?04:45
dr_willisNewUbuntuUser:  winw 101:   use     wine /path/to/whatever.exe   to run a windows binary04:45
DBoyzwhat should i try?04:45
g00053Ben64, thanks04:46
DBoyzi mean, what to do?04:46
dr_williscups can 'share' via samba. or it can  work as a print 'server'04:46
NewUbuntuUserok, how do I look up the path?  I tried navigating to the downlaods folder with cd and ls -a  and nothing was popping up04:46
dr_willisthats not quite the same as 'shareing'   .04:46
k1lumin4t1dr_willis, yes, but I'm not using it with samba04:47
Ben64dr_willis: do you know anything about upstart?04:47
dr_willisk1lumin4t1:   you should be able to use the cups web interface on the client and it shoudl be abel to scan and see the cups server04:47
dr_willisBen64:  the 'upstart cookbook' is the best docs ive seen on upstart04:47
k1lumin4t1dr_willis, it sees it, but can't print to it04:48
Ben64dr_willis: yeah i saw that, it's quite a lengthy document though04:48
k1lumin4t1dr_willis, It asks me for an authentication thing which never asked me before04:48
dr_willisk1lumin4t1:  check the cups server settings. there may be some security  to resctict configuration to localhost.04:48
NewUbuntuUsernever mind I may just have got it04:49
dr_willisthe cups logs may give some info also04:49
dr_willisBen64:  all i know on upstart came from that doc. ;)04:50
pORTER_Hi04:50
dr_willisand i only skimmed it04:50
pORTER_How can i install ubuntu on another partition that is already made?04:50
Ben64dr_willis: I just can't figure out how to make isc-dhcp-server start on boot instead of isc-dhcp-server6, and 6 uses a different type of config or something04:50
pORTER_How can i install ubuntu on another partition that is already made?04:51
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MestreLionguys, I have an ATI HD 7770 card, Asus M4A89GTD motherboard, and using buntu 12.04 with proprietary Catalyst 12.6 (from AMD site). Any hints or troubleshoot directions to make sound via HDMI work?04:51
pORTER_How can i install ubuntu on another partition that is already made?04:51
SixilAnyone here know Bash? :<04:51
pORTER_Batch?04:52
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MestreLionpORTER_: asking the same question 3 times in 10 secs won't help04:52
dr_willispORTER_:  tell the installer to use it. and reformat it to ext/3/404:52
MestreLionSixil: most of us do, also the people at #bash are experts04:52
NewUbuntuUserok so now I am getting a wine error04:52
NewUbuntuUserthe web platform installer could not start04:52
dr_willis!appdb | NewUbuntuUser04:52
ubottuNewUbuntuUser: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help04:52
pORTER_Thanks04:53
SixilMestreLion: I agree, however, #bash is frankly quite dead and I'm not getting anywhere with resolving an issue which no doubt is staring me in the face!04:53
NewUbuntuUserthanks04:53
MestreLion#bash dead? Its one of the most active channels I've ever seen.. most questions are answered in less than a minute. But feel free to ask here too04:54
g00053Ben64, could you give me an example of the command I would pass to mencoder , this is one of the longest manpages i've seen04:54
kieppie2hi guys. I'm hoping someone can help me out with this desktop. is/was my "old" lounge PC - dual-core 64-bit current ubuntu unity, 4 GB RAM & 8 GB swap, ATI Radeon 4350 HD (HDMI out). all-in-all it's a fairly decent machine by all accounts, but overall performance is *simply shocking*!04:54
SixilI try to run this: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/e3de27d3/ but when I run it and agree to deleting the directory contents, it comes back with: rm: cannot remove `/home/sixil/Dustbin/*': No such file or directory04:55
MestreLionHas anyone made sound work via HDMI when using a dedicated ATI video card?04:55
subterfuge1750I'm stumped -- I want to search a directory and all sub directories for any and all audio/video/image files and then have it make a symbiotic link in a separate directory for each file found using the files original name -- can anyone help me with the syntax of this, Thanks04:55
dr_willisSixil:  you got * quoted so deeply the shell is not parseing it..  rm is seeing the actual '*' character04:56
dr_willisi was going to guess quoteing.. befor you even stated the issue as a joke.  ;P04:56
dr_willisSixil:  using ' when you need "  perhaps04:56
MestreLionSixil: did you made this script, or copied from somewhere else?04:56
SixilI made it.04:57
somsipsubterfuge1750: dump the files to a tmp file then iterate through it and create the links in a bash script04:57
MestreLionSixil: move the /* out of "$all"04:57
SixilI just want to delete the contents of the folder, not delete the folder completly.04:58
subterfuge1750somsip: Thanks, was kind of going that way but have a bit of a time doing it.  I have kind of jumped in to the deep end (at lest deep for me)04:58
jerry_l1whats GNU bash? is it different than bash?04:59
MestreLionSixil: 11: all="/home/$USER/Dustbin"  20 Y) cd "$dustbindir" && rm -rf  "$all"/*;;04:59
somsipsubterfuge1750: find . -name *.mp3 -name *.avi (...etc) > tmpfile. But you will have to find a way to get find to output the full pathname04:59
dr_willisjerry_l1:  gnu vs 'unix'  ;) the gnu guys rewrote most of the unix commands... years back05:00
somsipsubterfuge1750: acutally. maybe that's not ideal. Sorry - wanted to help but suddenly got a bit busy05:00
DNAtsolHi all. excuse my interruption - new to the whole irc thing - trying to recover my touchpad function after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.1005:00
FroodleProblem: the Flash plugin (11.2 r202) keeps crashing Firefox (17.0 and several earlier) when in full screen.  Happens after roughly 5 minutes of playing Youtube videos.  12.04.  Already removed flashplugin-installer and installed adobe-flashplugin.05:00
MestreLionSixil: you can also make "$all" an array instead of a string, this way: all=( "$HOME/Dustbin"/* ), and then you can expand it as "${all[@]}"05:01
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subterfuge1750somsip: no worries, thanks anyway05:01
somsipsubterfuge1750: this might help but you'll have to play with the wildcards http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/46047/create-symbolic-links-with-wildcards05:01
subterfuge1750somsip: thanks05:02
doc|homeis there an official php 5.4 repo or install guide. I can only find this: http://www.barryodonovan.com/index.php/2012/05/22/ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-and-php-5-4-again05:02
somsipdoc|home: no - stuck on 5.3 for now unless you go to a PPA.05:03
doc|homesomsip: bah, ok, thank you05:03
kieppiehi guys. I'm hoping someone can help me out with this desktop. is/was my "old" lounge PC - dual-core 64-bit current ubuntu unity, 4 GB RAM & 8 GB swap, ATI Radeon 4350 HD (HDMI out). all-in-all it's a fairly decent machine by all accounts, but overall performance is *simply shocking*!05:03
subterfuge1750Anyone else smooth with bash commands and have a second to help?05:04
doc|homesomsip: can you recommend anyone safe? I don't want to use some random repo05:04
dr_williskieppie:  some actual details would help...05:04
SixilMestreLion: Well, you see it's just deleting the folder and everything inside it. I just want it to delete the contents of Dustbin, but leave the folder intact.05:04
jerry_l1 dr_willis: if i am trying to learn the terminal on ubuntu does this affect stuff?05:04
dr_williswhats shocking about it. ;)05:04
DNAtsol***Help needed***: upgraded to 12.10 on a system76 lemur machine and now my touchpad does not respond. I'm thinking a driver needs updating or a switch needs setting but not sure where to look.05:04
MestreLionSixil: lines 37-41 uses perhaps *all* of thw worst bash practices...05:04
dr_willisjerry_l1:  bash should be bash.. on unix, or linux, or bsd...05:04
DBoyzCan anyone tell me how do i change my DNS settings on 12.10? should i edit /etc/resolve.conf ?05:05
SixilMestreLion: Only been Bashing for 2 days, haha.05:05
DBoyzhow do i edit that .conf file by the way?05:05
MestreLionSixil: *never* try to parse ls05:05
dr_willisjerry_l1:  sort of a core idea behind 'posix'05:05
dr_willisDBoyz:  i just use the netwoek manager gui tool05:05
kieppiehi dr_willis: general performance is pretty poor. could be GPU-related. this machine is/was my dedicated XBMC host (was headless); now installed unity desktop to be able to play simple games, such as the Humble Bundle games05:06
MestreLionSixil: if you want to loop all files in a given dir, use an array:  myfiles=( /some/dir/* ) ; for file in "${myfiles[@]}"; do....05:06
kieppieit's very lacking for a very capable machine - in some cases worse than my mobile or netbook05:06
jerry_l1thanks!!05:06
dr_williskieppie:  you are using the fglrx drivers?05:06
somsipdoc|home: I don't use PPAs for PHP as I have production machines on 5.3, so I stay the same05:06
jerry_l1 dr_willis: thanks.05:06
DBoyzdr_willis: how do you use it? i adding 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 in the GUI tool but my network information did not change apparently05:07
DBoyzi tried adding*05:07
doc|homesomsip: ok, thanks05:07
SixilMestreLion: I mean, it works, without a problem, the only issue is, it deletes everything. Would putting an array up keep the folder?05:07
MestreLionSixil: also, don't use echo prior to read... there is already read -p "some prompt or question goes here"05:07
kieppiekieppie: I am. there was issue with the "official" drivers provided by ATI (needed to enable 3D hardware-accelleration), so had to make use of a backported05:08
kieppie "hack"05:08
snoophi... it is posible tu virtualize ubuntu on a mac ??05:08
kieppievia PPA05:08
dr_willisDBoyz:  theres some setting to set static ip. or everything static. i just set them all.. or i set my routers dns servers to those  instaed of letting it get them from m y isp.. it then gives them to the rest of the lan05:08
kieppieI suspect that could be part of the problem05:08
kieppiesnoop: yes - VirtualBox or QEMU05:08
DBoyzah05:09
DBoyzi got you05:09
MestreLionSixil: rm -rf  "/some/dir"/* will *not* delete the dir, I promise you05:09
dr_willisor just delete the dir.. then remake it... big deal... ;P05:09
snoopi try virtualbox with the new version of ubuntu but get stuck the desktop doesnt do anything :S05:10
aboudreaultI've migrated a virtual machine ....... how can I disable LDAP ssh. (I can't login in the machine right now)05:11
SixilMestreLion: Well, I put the array in, yet, I get this back: Aborting due to unexpected eof. Fix any mentioned problems and try again.05:11
kieppiesnoop: try an older version of ubuntu - 12.04 or 12.04. but 1st try to get the 3d video drivers working right. Unity uses quite a lot of compositing, so if you don't have 3D hardware accelleration working right, it's a dog to use. also, check that your are able to use from terminal OK05:12
MestreLionSixil: are you still using cat and ls > somefile ?05:12
SixilYes. I only changed the all= part05:12
MestreLionSixil: also, why are you looping all files just to confirm with user for delete? there is rm -i for that05:12
snoopok thanks a lot keep the good work (y)05:13
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SixilMestreLion: My task explicitly wants that.05:13
dr_willisSixil:  i bet spaces in file names will mess you up also05:13
MestreLionSixil: rm -i already asks user for confirmation for every file05:13
snoopkieppie: tnxs for the help05:14
MestreLionSixil: do NOT use "cd /some/dir; ls > tempfile; for file in $(cat tempfile)", this is atrocious. You can replace all of this for a single:  for file in "/some/dir"/*05:14
kieppiesnoop: np. dr_willis: if there's a good FLOSS driver for this ATI Radeon that'll give me decent 3D hardware-accelleration, I'd be happy to give that a try. got pointers, please?05:14
dr_williskieppie:  fgrlx would work best.. if it works. i dont use ati much these days05:15
kieppiedr_willis: I use it because it's the space card with HDMI out I've got atm. don't wanna blow another wad of $$$ because of a crappy driver05:16
MestreLionSixil: never, never, NEVER  use the output of ls to do ANY file processing. ls output is meant for humans, NOT to be parsed by scripts. for most commands you can simply use the path directly in the command, as in "/some/path"/*05:16
SixilOkay.05:17
kieppieI've not really had *much* issues in the past, but since my upgrade to 12.10, things have gone horribly wring GPU-driver wise05:17
dr_willisdont parst 'echo *' output eiher. ;)05:17
dr_williskieppie:  try reinstalling the fglrx driver perhaps. it may be using the open sourc3ed driver05:20
MestreLionSixil: last but not least, some hints: 1 - endent your code, use 4 spaces (or a TAB) when inside an if or for block. makes reading code a LOT easier. 2 - build your vars one from another, to avoid inconsistencies: dust="Dustbin"; dustbindir="$HOME/$dust"; manifest="$dustbindir/.location", etc etc05:21
kieppieit's definately using the non-FLOSS one atm. in the past I've had better results from those, but this "backported" version might be iffy. I'm thinking I might purge the binary fglrx ones & load the FLOSS ones, but this page does not go into a lot of detail installing the FLOSS one with 3D HA - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver05:22
MestreLionSixil: notice that I've used $HOME instead of "/home/$USER".  Remember the user's home is not necessarily at "/home". Also, do not use trailing slashes when assigning dirs to a var. Makes concatenating paths produce things like "/some//dir//"05:23
phixSixil: use something like os.path.join(parentDir, "fileOrDirectoryName")05:24
phixSixil: oh and use python :P05:24
MestreLionGuys, any directions on how to enable HDMI sound output when using an AMD video card? I'm already using Catalyst 12.605:24
dr_willisperl!, comal, lisp! tcl!  ;)05:24
SolarisBoyruby05:24
phixruby :\05:25
dr_willisi rock at 'rexx'05:25
dr_willisor at least used to.....05:25
SolarisBoy;>05:25
MestreLionphix: actually, for his use case, he does not any script at all. Everything his script does is the same as rm -ir /some/dir/*05:25
phixApparantly people who program in ruby have personallity clashes with alot of people05:25
SolarisBoyheh...05:25
phixMestreLion: oh, then why doesn't he just use rm?05:25
MestreLionphix: ask him, I have no idea. Apperantely he wants -i to be -a (for "ask", I suppose05:26
SolarisBoyoy?05:26
MestreLionphix: and he made a 56-line script that apparently does the same as rm -r  with or without -i05:27
phixSixil: why Sixil why?>05:30
g00053anyone know of any methods to write mp3 meta data via bash ?05:30
phixhai SolarisBoy, are you in the right channel?05:30
phixg00053: yes05:30
SolarisBoyi thought i was05:30
phixapt-cache search mp3 id tag05:30
g00053many thanks05:31
phixid3tool - Command line editor for id3 tags05:31
phixid3v2 - A command line id3v2 tag editor05:31
g00053my youtube script is coming along nicely :D05:31
phixg00053: :D05:31
phixthere are also python and perl libraries to do it too05:31
phixif you want to make a proper script :P05:32
nuf0xxo/05:32
somsipg00053: http://phoxis.org/2011/08/24/bash-script-reading-id3v1-tags/05:32
nuf0xxi would like the cdrom (/dev/sr0) to mount @ /mnt/cdrom or similar ... not in gvfs05:32
nuf0xxany help?05:32
somsipg00053: oh....*write*. Sorry, misread05:32
almoxarifeso i got an instance of lxde via vnc running, if i start something that would output sound, should the host at least squak sound?05:33
g00053all good thanks.05:33
phixnuf0xx: edit /etc/fstab05:34
phixsudo nano /etc/fstab05:34
somsipg00053: http://eyed3.nicfit.net/ also05:34
phix/dev/scd0                                       /media/cdrom0           udf,iso9660     user,noauto                             0       005:35
phixchange /media to /mnt if you want to05:35
phixnuf0xx: and cd0 to sr0 if  you require05:35
nuf0xxphix: i did that and still no joy05:38
nuf0xxi take that back... didn't use the udf option05:39
almoxarifean instance of lxde-buntu-arm-omap4 is running on a rooted-kindle, i am connected via vnc to it, starting something that would output sound, should the host at least squak sound? i dont have anything i vnc into to experiment other than the lxde05:44
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RickZillaI've got 12.10 as a persistent Live USB, if I install to HD will it keep the changes I've made, or will it start over as a fresh install?05:49
dr_willisRickZilla:  fresh install05:50
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almoxarifedr_willis: what it the magic !xxx for the package containing 'lsusb/pci'??05:53
dr_willis!find lsusb05:55
ubottuFile lsusb found in manpages-tr, usbutils, zsh, zsh-beta05:55
dr_willis!find lspci05:55
ubottuFile lspci found in debian-installer, grub-coreboot-bin, grub-coreboot-dbg, grub-efi-amd64-bin, grub-efi-amd64-dbg, grub-efi-ia32-bin, grub-efi-ia32-dbg, grub-ieee1275-bin, grub-ieee1275-dbg, grub-pc-bin (and 6 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=lspci&mode=&suite=quantal&arch=any05:55
kieppiereferences online indicate I need to set a KMS value as documented @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting - but the page no longer exists05:56
kieppie!KMS05:56
kieppie?KMS05:57
dr_willis!dkms05:58
ubottuDKMS is Dynamic Kernel Module Support. See https://launchpad.net/dkms for more.05:58
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dr_willisnever heard of kms.05:58
dr_willisdkms may have replaced it05:59
dr_willisor may just have a similer name05:59
g00053can someone tell me how to return the position of a character "x" in string "y" in bash ?06:01
phunyguy_t430sOK, with this question it is about software not included in the repos, but it has to do with a Ubuntu feature.  I am trying to test out Davmail, and it won't show up in the notification area even though it is running.  I remember reading a while back about some icons being hidden, or all hidden with some whitelisted.  Is there still any truth to this?06:03
dr_willisphunyguy_t430s:  yes.06:04
phunyguy_t430sI also get a popup about it running on the left side of the screen near the top of the unity launcher06:05
dr_williswebupd8 or omgubuntu or askubuntu.com should have info on whitelisting apps06:05
kieppiedr_willis: purged the old fglrx drivers & using the floss ones. performance pretty poor - glxgear pretty jittery06:07
phunyguy_t430sany way to find out what this icon would be named as in order to white list it?06:07
somsipg00053: it seems you would be better trying in #bash06:08
kakkinalguien ahí?06:09
dkannanwhat is the difference between the package libreadline-dev and libreadline-gplv2-dev ?06:11
phunyguy_t430sThere it is!06:11
kakkinzorry all, no speakin very good english06:12
almoxarifekakkin: i know, gpl?06:13
kakkinno speakin very good inglish, zorry, spanish yes06:13
gnomefreakkarakedi: you can try in #ubuntu-es  that is the spankish help channel06:15
Tex_Nick!es | kakkin06:15
ubottukakkin: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.06:15
gnomefreakdamn06:15
etfbDoes anyone have any tips for reactiving menus in LibreOffice in Ubuntu 12.10 (with Unity)?  Keyboard shortcuts to open menus (Alt+F for File, etc) don't work.06:15
etfbGoogling for help gives ideas that only work for 12.04, so far.06:16
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yhushahmm the up and down arrow keys stopped working for up and down scrolling: the up and down arrow keys are what control audio volume when combined with "Fn"  and that still works thogh06:23
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jakebohello, everyone06:27
yhushayea...06:27
yhushaso is this just hobby to everybody in here or does ubuntu cover some of this corporately06:28
somsipyhusha: just volunteers here06:29
jakebohaha06:29
yhushaever tried e17 gui?06:29
jakeboi haven't06:29
yhushaits nice realy prety light too06:30
yhushaa few bugs though06:30
jakeboI was a layman for linux06:31
yhushait doesn't immediately recognize synaptic or software center from the menu06:31
yhushain order to start synaptic for example it requires terminal gksu synaptic06:32
yhushahaven't eyt config'd it to work rom the menu06:32
yhushafrom*06:33
yhushabut its way faster than unity06:33
gnomefreakyet*06:33
yhushayea that too06:33
gnomefreak:)06:33
jakeboi'm a china man...@_@06:34
yhushaabout to make a partition dedicated to linux os experiments06:35
yhusharealy06:35
yhushawheres that from06:35
jakeboi want to say something, but i'm not good at english06:35
jakebo......06:35
yhushaok say DBR...06:35
somsipyhusha: this is a support forum rather than a place to chat. You're welcome to do chat in #ubuntu-offtopic06:35
jakeboi want to cry --@@06:36
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jedbI am trying to set up a tftp server and when i type this command... sudo chown -R nobody:nobody /var/lib/tftpboot       OutPut:    chown invalid group nobody:nobody06:37
jedbany ideas why06:37
crimsonmaneyou haven't made a group called nobody06:37
jedbdo i need to create on called nobody or can i use an existing accout06:38
jedbone*06:38
jedbor how would i create the group called nobody06:38
somsipjedb: man groupadd06:39
jedbwoah06:40
kvothetech_jedb: nano /etc/groups06:42
kvothetech_though nobody should exist by default06:42
_jasI'm trying to find how I can add a project to apt-get06:43
_jasor so it can be installed via apt-get, currently it's a linux package that sits on it's own, and it would be beneficial if I could install via apt-get06:43
jedbshould there be some text in /etc/groups06:43
_jasare there any keywords I could be pointed towards to start reading? haven't had much luck googling06:43
somsip!packaging | _jas06:44
ubottu_jas: The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring06:44
jedbi think i got it06:45
crimsonmane_jas: there has to be a PPA you can add to your software sources. unless you mean to get the program included in ubuntu's default repo?06:45
jedbi just added nobody:x:nobody06:47
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jedbit still says invalid group: nobody:nobody06:49
somsipjedb: how did you add the group06:52
jedbi edited via nano /etc/groups06:52
_jascrimsonmane: I'm okay creating my own ppa to add to the software sources for now, it could qualify to get into ubuntu's default repo eventually but I'd like to start somewhere06:52
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jedbi just enterd nobody:x:nobody06:53
somsipjedb: and you added nobody:x:nobody06:53
alonhi im getting an error:  python3-dbus : Depends: python3 (< 3.3) but 3.3.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed, how do i override it cleanly?06:53
somsipjedb: does that format look correct to the other entries in the file?06:54
_jasppa looks like it's the right thing to look up06:54
_jasthanks so much for the terminology crimsonmane06:54
_jashttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas06:54
jakeboalon: my be you can sudo apt-get remove python06:54
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jedbi have nogroup06:55
jedbi think06:55
jedbits just like all the others06:55
alonjakebo, i got 210 pkgs that depend on it06:55
somsipjedb: is the format of the other lines "groupname:x:groupuser"?06:55
jedbno its like nogroup:x:number:06:56
somsipjedb: so would you say, that isn't the same as the other entries then?06:56
jedbit dose not seem to be06:57
somsipjedb: hence my original advice to user groupadd06:57
somsip*user groupadd06:57
somsip*use groupadd ...gah!06:57
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jedbso what would the command be06:58
r4yDo you all do every update Ubuntu issues?, My brother asked me this which I have wondered for a long time. I know that is a newbee like question, but Ihave been using Ubuntu for a few years now. I just update everything on the list06:59
alonany1 on 12.10 can install bluez (bluetooth support) and tell me what version of python they are running?06:59
evilmoor4y: unless you're sure they're not security issues, you should install them all06:59
somsipjedb: it's not that difficult...07:00
evilmoor4y: also, if you're sure you don't use the packages (directly or indirectly), you should remove them07:00
jedbit is if you have 3 weeks experience with the linux os07:00
jedbi did07:01
jedbuseradd -U -m nobody07:01
aezxI'm trying to boot 12.10 from usb and it doesn't boot. it's been an hour and the cursor just keeps blinking07:01
jedbuseradd: user nobody already exists07:01
aezxearlier i was getting a missing operating system error, but that seems to have gone away07:01
somsipjedb: why are you using useradd to add a group?07:01
jedbfuck if i know07:02
jedbhttp://www.edwardcrosby.com/2012/08/20/setting-tftp-server-in-linux-mint-12/07:02
somsipjedb: watch the language. I told you 'use groupadd'07:02
r4yI don't use evolution for instance, but I would be afraid of removing packages, I am guessing you don't mean to remove packages not used, but update packages07:02
jedbmy bad07:02
jedbthis is the tutorial im adding07:02
jedbusing*07:02
somsipjedb: what ubuntu are you using?07:03
Guest90381use groupadd07:03
sagexhey07:03
r4yI've had Ubuntu fall apart from removing something I didn't like, but I can't remember what it was, but that was a long time ago07:03
jedbomg07:03
jedbderrrrr07:03
jedblinux mint07:03
jedblol07:03
sagexI am trying to use a usb bluetooth adapter and It is not being recognized can anyone help07:04
somsip!mint | jedb07:04
almoxarifefall apart :)07:04
ubottujedb: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org07:04
bazhangjedb, then get mint support. it's not supported here07:04
jedbtried07:04
jedbbut o well07:04
r4yI know things I didn't know then, I could now fix that problem07:04
r4yI meant the problem I was havinf07:04
sagexis there a command that tells me what usb devices I have plugged in (dmesg?)07:06
r4yI meant,  I am guessing you don't mean to remove packages not used, but not updating packages not used is what you meant evilmon07:06
MonkeyDustsagex  lsusb07:07
D3RGPS31http://pastebin.com/r5DLi90z is a syslog of when a client pxe boots; it takes almost 3 minutes for tftp/pxelinux to go through the non-existent configs, and every request is repeated 17 times :l i'm using default tftpd-hpa config, this started happening after the latest tftpd-hpa update07:07
stones_Hi all. I am having some issues with my server load jumping very high. It seems like when I stop SQL the load goes down07:08
stones_As soon as SQL starts again the load jumps up. Could anyone assist me in figuring out whats going on?07:08
r4yThat's evilmoo not evilmon, sorry, the dark blue I have in use against the black background isn't much of a contrast in comparison.07:08
somsipstones_: check the processlist in mysql. Check the mysql error log07:09
stones_How do I check the processlist?07:09
snoophow i recover the root passwd in the new ubuntu 12.10 ? didnt get to set the root passwd =S07:10
MonkeyDustsnoop  there is no root paswod, there's sudo07:10
somsipstones_: mysql -u {user} -p, enter password, then 'show processlist;'07:10
somsip!root | snoop07:10
ubottusnoop: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo07:10
stones_./var/log/mysql.err has nothing in it. Completely empty07:11
alonanyone here is using bluetooth on 12.10?07:11
somsipstones_: check /var/log/mysql/error.log07:11
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stones_Thanks guys. Don't see any specific errors?07:12
stones_121130  1:51:34 [Warning] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Forcing close of thread 5605  user: ''07:12
stones_mainly see lines and lines of ^07:13
jakeboalon: I'm use 10.10 now, and i did not use bluetooth, sorry07:13
somsipstones_: maybe that will give you something to look into. I see some search results for that error message07:14
snoopok tnx..07:14
alonlast question i think: where is the dependencies database stored on ubuntu?07:14
stones_I see a bunch of logs within the -slow- log file07:14
stones_not sure if thats related though07:14
snoopits the force of habit from the other distros =P07:15
somsipstones_: they are often a performance killer07:16
stones_whatcha mean?07:16
stones_Im trying to pin point exactly whats causing SQL to cause a load on my server07:16
somsipstones_: that's why I suggested watching the processlist. To see if you have queries that are churning07:17
stones_As soon as SQL is started the load jumps up to 90+07:17
somsipstones_: is the DB being hit by an app?07:17
stones_hmm but as soon as I start SQL it crashing the server07:17
somsipstones_: so, back to researching the 'Forcing close of thread' error then07:18
somsipstones_: no errors about tables needing to be rebuilt or in an error state?07:18
stones_Let me google it. Thought that would be me shutting down SQL07:18
somsipstones_: or *check the processlist* to see if it is doing anything on startup, like trying to repair borked tables07:19
fakixlixHola07:19
stones_How can I repair the tables via shell?07:20
almoxarifehow do i change my locale via shell?07:20
stones_somsip I have to start SQL for that, correct?07:20
stones_As soon as I start SQL it crashes the server...07:20
somsipstones_: ah - good point :)07:22
alonif anyone cares, python3-dbus is broken since python3.2 and python3.3 are not compatible07:22
somsipstones_: maybe set the general query log in /etc/mysql/my.cnf to log everything?07:22
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jakeboI would like to ask some questions, but i'm not good at english, what can't i do??07:27
blackshirtjakebo, you can ask here and describe your problem07:27
bazhangjakebo, whats your native language07:27
jakebochinese07:27
bazhangjakebo, #ubuntu-cn has a chinese channel07:28
jakeboAh, thinks!!07:28
somsipstones_: two things - I thought you said it hit high CPU levels not that it crashed, and if it's crashing how are you getting slow queries?07:31
stones_somsip What exactly should I put into the cnf file for this?07:33
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stones_121130  0:08:37 [Note] Retrying repair of: './likeoi/id_sessions' with keycache07:33
stones_I see a few of these, does this mean SQL is trying to repair the tables?07:34
somsipstones_: yes - that's what I was referring to earlier. Are the times current? Or are these old old queries?07:34
G0dibuenas07:34
G0dialguien me puede ayudar en algo /?07:34
somsip!es | G0di07:34
ubottuG0di: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.07:35
Guest91156http://www.typit.yolasite.com07:35
G0disomsip grax07:35
G0dithx07:35
somsip!test07:39
ubottuTesting... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )07:39
stones_21130  0:08:37 [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Table './likeoi/ibf_sessions' is marked as crashed and should be repaired07:39
stones_121130 yep, current... thats todays date actually07:39
somsipstones_: So I'd suggest looking at mysqlcheck/myisamchk and getting that sorted for a start07:40
stones_Is there a way I could repair the dbs without starting SQL? Might be a dumb question...?07:40
somsipstones_: using one of the two commands in my last comment :)07:40
Kartagisif I attempt to initialise an already in use partition for use by LVM with pvcreate, will that destroy the partition?07:41
blackshirtHello07:42
stones_myisamchk? would that work? Do I have to repair EACH table at a time?07:42
stones_do I have to go through the logs and see which ones needed repairing or is there a way to check/repair all dbs automatically?07:43
stones_i appreciate your help btw ;)07:43
somsipstones_: I don't have experience of these so I would be looking up the answer for you. You would use myisamchk is you use MYISAM tables, so I suspect mysqlcheck for INNODB. And maybe you should fix the broken table first - likeoi DB, ibf_sessions table07:43
somsipstones_: could be a --repair-all option. Dunno07:43
stones_argh this gets more confusing07:43
stones_how do I know if im using innodb?07:43
icerootstones_: also have a look at #mysql07:43
stones_I believe I am, but obviously want to make sure07:43
somsipstones_: don't know. I know my DBs, so I know what I use07:44
stones_is there a way to verify?07:44
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wopsk1how do i setup internet sharing on ubuntu 12.04 can ne1 help07:44
somsipstones_: probably, but I'm not searching it for you07:45
stones_just checked07:45
stones_121130  0:09:17  InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 1 210793556407:45
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stones_I guess im using innodb than07:45
peter_is it repository or just package storage? http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/bless07:46
wopsk1help ne1?07:46
somsipstones_: different tables in the same DB can use different engines. INNODB engine might be started if it's not disabled in my.cnf07:46
icerootpeter_: its not the repo, also its debian not ubuntu, dont mix the packages07:46
iceroot!ics | wopsk107:47
ubottuwopsk1: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing07:47
peter_iceroot: ok, thanks07:47
stones_i just dont want to mess anything up here07:47
somsipstones_: understandable. You should be careful07:47
stones_whats the best way to make a copy of the dbs first?07:48
somsipstones_: sudo cp -R /var/lib/mysql ~/Temp/07:48
stones_mysqlcheck is similar in function to myisamchk, but works differently.07:49
stones_       The main operational difference is that mysqlcheck must be used when07:49
stones_       the mysqld server is running,07:49
wopsk1tried that but no luck is there a program in software center u kno of07:49
stones_so neither is for InnoDB or myisam..07:49
bazhang!work | wopsk107:50
ubottuwopsk1: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.07:50
somsipstones_: some info here, but you should be finding this yourself. I'm trying to help but this is not #mysql http://www.softwareprojects.com/resources/programming/t-how-to-fix-mysql-database-myisam-innodb-1634.html07:51
wopsk1ur right didnt think ne1 was listening well it dosen't make sense it says go to settings-network-wireless but i dont have a menu on 12.0407:52
wopsk1i can click on the wireless icon on the top right i dont have an option to create an ad hoc network and thats ot even what i want to do i want to set it up as a hotspot07:54
wopsk1if i cant setup internet sharing on ubuntu ill be forced to go back to windows...07:58
stones_OK so SQL runs fine once I stop Apache207:58
stones_processlist only shows myself in it07:58
somsipstones_: is this a live site that you're running?07:58
stones_yeah08:00
somsipstones_: and are users hitting the site when apache is running. And would this generate queries to the DB?08:01
Kartagisif I attempt to initialise an already in use partition for use by LVM with pvcreate, will that destroy the partition?08:01
stones_started sql first then started apache208:01
stones_load average: 0.47, 0.46, 0.5508:01
somsipstones_: so is your problem solved?08:01
stones_is there something i can leave open to monitor just in case the load spikes again?08:01
somsipstones_: who is your host?08:02
stones_friend of mine08:02
somsipstones_: ssh with top running then08:02
helmut_hi08:03
grillinburghello08:03
tafelpootI'd like to adapt this: http://pastebin.com/w4rkMHbZ to use logical names instead of the tape/by-path/$env{ID_PATH}. Here is a first try on that... http://pastebin.com/uMCdjX6X but it doesnt seem to work as I hoped...08:04
qkitevenig guys08:07
Kartagisif I attempt to initialise an already in use partition for use by LVM with pvcreate, will that destroy the partition?08:08
qkitlet say i ssh in to a device , and i wanted to save all the command that i type in that ssh session. How can i save it? if i'm using terminal to ssh in?08:08
somsipqkit: use something like screen, tmux, byobu08:09
qkitoh, thanks somsip08:09
somsipqkit: np08:09
BlackWebDoes anyone know of a good Video Streamer Over WAn?08:09
tafelpootqkit: you can just type 'history' and you'll see all your commands, or in ~/.bash_history08:11
boichevBlackWeb, VLC08:11
tafelpootno udev professionals here? :(08:11
qkittafelpoot: but that is already inside the ssh session08:12
BlackWebI tried VLC, and Remote system is giving me a error08:13
tafelpootqkit: oh, you want to save the commands you give on your local machine, not on the remote?08:13
BlackWebI'll play with it some more and see if I can get it to work08:13
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BlackWebso if the server goes down then in order to restream it I have to start VLC Every reboot?08:13
somsipqkit: then the answer I gave is not what you need08:13
qkitis on remote machine, let say..i want to save all the configuration on that device08:14
boichevBlackWeb, yes08:14
BlackWebAlright,  Thanks :)08:15
tafelpootqkit: hmmm I don't get it... so you ssh in there and type 'echo bla > /etc/myprogram/conf' and 'cd /bla' and stuff... and you want to save those?08:15
tafelpootor really just record every letter you type?08:15
qkitok..let say i login to a cisco device using ssh, den i run show run. i want to capture what ever that show in there08:15
qkithmm..i think screen can do that..08:15
tafelpootokay I see...08:16
tafelpootqkit: you can do 'ssh mybox | tee mydumpfile'08:16
qkitoh08:17
qkitinteresting..let me test08:17
boichevBlackWeb, there is a way to do it from the command line so you can add it on startup and start the stream automaticly08:17
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qkittafelpoot: thanks...it works08:19
Saili have one strange problem whenever i restart my system he show me the grub menu sometimes an sometimes not it happening this from the yesterday08:19
syskoffHello08:24
alex73hello08:24
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syskoffWho can help me with LFS?08:25
bazhangsyskoff, the lfs support channel NOT here08:27
bazhang!alis | syskoff have a search for it08:27
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Noskcajchromium never seems to get above 41.3Kbps even though everything else is much faster, any ideas?08:31
stones_Ok its acting up again but this time I have the processlist... what should I look for in it?08:31
pndemcI installed Zpanel on my ubuntu server, and now I can't launch my game servers, it keeps telling me "No such file or directory" when it gets to either ./steam or ./srcds_run08:31
somsipstones_: the queries that are running that might be causing excess load08:33
pr3d4t0rGreetings.08:34
stones_Do I look for multiple queries or?08:34
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stones_ 5697 | forumsforus          | localhost | forumsforus  | Sleep   |   42 |                  | NULL08:34
stones_I see a bunch of these for forumsforums08:34
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somsipstones_: something that is running for a long time that is causing table locks elsewhere08:35
tafelpootno udev guys around?08:35
stones_well I see that table/db a bunch of times08:35
somsipstones_: does the server have enough resources to be able to handle this DB?08:36
stones_with the highest of 53 seconds08:36
pr3d4t0rQ. apt-get update errors:  http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=45586 - MergeList, dependency.  Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS.  I can't update or upgrade because of this error -- how to solve it?  Vanilla Ubuntu server otherwise.08:37
somsipstones_: so your schema has problems ore the config is poor or the server is underpowered08:37
pr3d4t0rThe dependency is something in Gnome - which is strange, since this is a headless machine.08:37
MonkeyDustpr3d4t0r  #ubuntu-server08:38
stones_yeah ram usage is 90%08:39
pr3d4t0rMonkeyDust: Gracias.08:39
stones_but i thought something was causing it to spike up08:39
Sailpr3d4t0r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168540908:39
pr3d4t0rMonkeyDust: I figured it out -- just nuke /var/lib/apt/lists/*08:39
pr3d4t0rSail: Checking.08:39
pr3d4t0rMonkeyDust: This isn't a problem specific to server anyway -- it's a package manager issue.08:40
somsipstones_: so you need to find out what it is. Troubleshooting servers like this can get complex and it's not something I'm prepared to cover with you here. But maybe you should check indexes on the tables and try to solve your slow queries. But ultimately, you might just find the server is underpowered.08:41
pr3d4t0rSail: Right - similar to what I found.  Just force apt to re-read all package lists.  Thanks for your help :)08:41
pr3d4t0rHave a nice day, guys.08:42
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somsipstones_: or needs more RAM or mySQL config changes08:42
alloccerMay someone help me? I can't find how to install AMD Radeon 7670M Drivers on ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I installed Catalist, but it alerts error...08:43
Suryeis there a way to, remotely via ssh, enable a full VNC session (connect to the login screen, login, have a full session)? I can't seem to find a conclusive answer online08:44
RiXtErSurye, if you are connecting with another *nix machine (using X) you can ssh -X user@host and when something needs X it will pull only that app up on your screen.08:46
tizxxxcan anyone explain me why ifconfig and /etc/network/interfaces show different settings? :)08:47
RiXtErtizxxx, are you using a desktop environment?08:49
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iceroottizxxx: ifconfig is reading the current network settings which can be set via interfaces, network-manager and so on08:52
iceroottizxxx: interfaces is just one way to edit the settings but network-manager will for example overwrite that settings08:53
ex0ai keep getting a kernel panic when trying to boot the quantal iso via grub2 loopback: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)08:53
almoxarifeSurye: the login screen via vnc i think is a no can do08:53
ex0ai've been googling for a while now but i can't find anything that has worked so far08:54
ex0aany ideas?08:54
aum__i followed this link to setup quota http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-setup-disk-quotas-in-ubuntu.html , this is my fstab entery : UUID=d0841a05-14ae-447a-b54e-672e9689e82b /               ext4    defaults,errors=remount-ro,usrquota,grpquota 0       1 , now in  "quotacheck -avugm" its giving "quotacheck: Cannot guess format from filename on /dev/disk/by-uuid/d0841a05-14ae-447a-b54e-672e9689e82b. Please specify format on commandline.quotacheck: Cannot find fi08:54
aum__lesystem to check or filesystem not mounted with quota option."08:54
FloodBot1aum__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:54
tizxxxiceroot, i apt-get purge network manager, ifconfig shows actual ip, but i want settings from interfaces.08:54
Suryealmoxarife: Shoot, I thought I've done that in the past.08:54
tizxxxiceroot, i'm using script from opennebula for my vm, it puts rights settings to interfaces file, but i can't figure out how to apply them08:55
almoxarifeSurye: i could be proved wrong, i would appreciate that, i am facing the same dilema sort of08:56
blackshirtwas ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as official platform supported ?09:01
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ex0ai keep getting a kernel panic when trying to boot the quantal iso via grub2 loopback: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) - any ideas?09:03
najwawas ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as official platform supported ?09:05
paijowas ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as official platform supported ?09:06
ExUnixGuruDoes anyone know if the Ubuntu installer has RAID drivers available to be innstalled during the install, specifically what is the trick to install Ubuntu on a  RAID?  It errors when I tried to install it on my RAID 0 SSD drives.09:07
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almoxarifei have nothing left to install linux on, i wonder how the toaster would feel about that09:23
cratokgreat idea! apt-get install bacon09:23
pupilWas ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as a platform officially suported ?09:23
pupil!bacon09:24
almoxarifekfreebds? is that an illness?09:24
pupilalmoxarife, why do you say like that ?09:25
pupilany reason for that ?09:25
almoxarifepupil: no reason, no09:26
almoxarifeshould i expect sound via a vnc connection? on the host end?09:27
almoxarife!info rdp09:28
ubottuPackage rdp does not exist in quantal09:28
almoxarife!rdp09:28
RiXtEr!info remmina09:28
ubotturemmina (source: remmina): remote desktop client for GNOME desktop environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1ubuntu8 (quantal), package size 130 kB, installed size 360 kB09:28
almoxarife!info krdc09:29
ubottukrdc (source: kdenetwork): Remote Desktop Connection client. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.9.1-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 460 kB, installed size 1086 kB09:29
voxcroixhi09:29
phixhi09:30
pupilhi voxcroix09:30
phixhow are you buddy?09:30
ExUnixGuruDoes anyone know who I should be directing questions toward?  I need help installing on RAID09:30
RiXtErevening philipballew09:30
voxcroixfine09:30
RiXtErerr wrong nic09:30
RiXtErevening phix09:30
phixExUnixGuru: just direct questions to the channel09:30
voxcroixare you ubuntu user?09:30
phixRiXtEr: <309:30
RiXtErExUnixGuru, hardware or software raid?09:30
taylor_facebook09:31
pupil!raid09:31
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto09:31
ExUnixGuruI am starting to play with .. was a Unix Furu 20+ years ago.  Plan to set up a server eventually for a friends business09:31
pupil!raid | exunixguru09:31
ubottuexunixguru: please see above09:31
ExUnixGuruoops Guru09:31
ExUnixGuruexcuse typos am a one  h anded  touch typer09:31
phixExUnixGuru: ah ok09:31
phixExUnixGuru: hey, so you using hardware or software raid?09:32
foo357Hello, I need a newer version of a certain software than the version in the repositories09:32
ExUnixGuruHave been doing lotds of reading but ran into the problem of trying to install plain Ubuntu release alongside windows on RAID SSD'09:32
killer1how i can get source code as i wanna compile  ubuntu from source09:33
ActionParsnipkiller1: sudo apt-get source packagename09:33
pupilkiller1, you can download it from upstream09:33
ExUnixGuruIS MB RAID09:33
ExUnixGurusorry09:33
ExUnixGurubumped cap lock09:34
phixExUnixGuru: MB RAID, so it is software raid09:34
RiXtErExUnixGuru, so your using a hardware raid (configured by the motherboard?)09:34
phixExUnixGuru: is it a server motherboard or a desktop motherboard?09:34
killer1ActionParsnip : i know that this way i will get source but how do i know how many packages or what packages i need to compile as a standard ubuntu distro09:34
ExUnixGurulikelely is firmware raid from  biios. has several RAiIIDed sets09:34
phixRiXtEr: most likely it isnt a desktop mobo so chances are it is firmware + drivers that does the raid09:35
ExUnixGuruWindows uses a driver during install09:35
ActionParsnipkiller1: there are loads. You don't just "compile a distro", it takes ages, compiling each package that makes up the OS.09:35
phixfirmware for the config and drivers / modules to do the actual raiding09:35
ExUnixGurucorrect09:35
RiXtErphix, agreed.09:35
phixRiXtEr: msot liekly it is a desktop mobo even09:35
phixtypo09:35
RiXtErExUnixGuru, so google search for the module that needs loaded on boot.09:35
phixhey should I get peperoni or lamb shank meat pizza?09:36
ExUnixGurubut how do I  get that into the  Ubuntu installer09:36
ActionParsnip!ot | phix09:36
ubottuphix: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:36
RiXtErExUnixGuru, you can load it when the cd is booting.09:36
ExUnixGuruII believe the MFG has the drivers09:36
ExUnixGurufor linux09:36
killer1ActionParsnip: u compiled a distro ever?(by compiling packages needed)09:36
ExUnixGuruwhat it does is - hang with an error09:37
ExUnixGururefuses tpo  install09:37
ActionParsnipkiller1: I've used gentoo, so technically yes09:37
RiXtErExUnixGuru, a google search for loading (your firmwaretype here) driver on linux livecd might help09:37
MonkeyDust!google09:37
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.09:37
ExUnixGuruok.. will try attacking with that direction09:37
ExUnixGuruthank you  very much09:37
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RiXtErMonkeyDust, he hasn't given me info on the card yet, google seemed logical09:38
phixActionParsnip: It was ubuntu related, I am using firefox under ubuntu to do the ordering09:38
ActionParsnipphix: is the browser working ok?09:39
phixActionParsnip: I do get flash issues with this particular pizza website09:40
ActionParsnipphix: then state that rather than some offtopic thing09:40
phixActionParsnip: It does matter though09:40
ActionParsnipphix: no worries09:41
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joobiehey guys.. im running a windows OS virtualized on linux, which uses an iscsi block device for the windows box's disk. Under average load i see slower performance of the windows box - i'm guessing this is because the iscsi is slowing or hitting threashold issues09:52
joobieany tips?  ive setup 2 x gigabit in a bonded mode 0 to the iscsi san09:53
MonkeyDustjoobie  vbox?09:54
foo357Hello, I need a newer version of a certain software than the version available in the repositories. However a lot of software depends on this package that's already installed, how should I install from source and not mess everything up?09:54
joobieya09:54
joobiebut just not sure if mode 0 could be causing this09:54
joobieor where to start to try optimize09:55
MonkeyDustjoobie  in a terminal, try rdesktop -u [user] [windows IP] <-- see if that is slow too09:55
joobieoh sorry MonkeyDust09:56
joobiei thought you meant is it a virtual box09:56
joobiebut it's kvm09:56
MonkeyDustah, i'm not too familiar with kvm09:57
joobieahh k09:57
joobiedoh :)09:57
joobiethanks neway hey09:58
dr_willisfoo357:  useing a ppa is the prefered way. what  program  are you needing?09:58
Andy80hi guys...09:58
foo357dr_willis: Imagemagick09:58
Andy80who had the "fantastic" idea to upgrade the Ubuntu kernel from 3.5 to 3.7, screweing up the whole desktop? Resolution with my Nvidia is broken and neither Unity can start.09:59
MonkeyDustAndy80  the current keren is 3.5.0-18-generic09:59
MonkeyDustkernel*09:59
dr_willisisent 3.5 going end of life. ;-)10:00
Andy80MonkeyDust, I got 3.7 yesterday from an upgrade... maybe it was a PPA? How can I detect it?10:01
dr_willis3.7 is in the next release? ive not tried it10:01
MonkeyDustyeah, guess 3.7 is for raring10:02
MonkeyDustAndy80  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?10:02
auronandaceMonkeyDust: 3.5.0-19 recently came out, i just upgrades (just so you know)10:02
Andy80MonkeyDust, andrea@andrea-Inspiron-660:~$ lsb_release -sd10:03
Andy80Ubuntu 12.1010:03
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media-centregood morning peeps10:04
Andy80is it possible that this package comes from a PPA?10:04
media-centregot a new problem for you10:04
dr_willisAndy80:  possuble10:04
Andy80and how can I detect which "deb" line caused this? There must be a way to know it10:04
dr_willissee what synaptic shows10:05
dr_willisit can show packages based on what repo10:06
media-centrelogictech webcam wont show on ubuntu10:06
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Andy80dr_willis, it says "(quantal)"10:06
Andy80uhm... no wait wait...10:07
dr_willisbottom left in synapitic has a show by source button10:07
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: if you run: cheese    does it show?10:07
media-centreno10:08
Andy80damn it... it was the  "xorg-edgers" -.-'10:08
media-centrenot even on benchmark10:08
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsusb10:09
thesadmafiosoWill linux-image-3.0.0-27-generic work for 10.04 LTS?10:09
media-centrei did go on some of the forums some of them did give me drivers but they for older kernels10:09
Andy80ok, I will "force version"10:09
thesadmafiosoI know it's not the most current and I know I need to get a newer distro SOON.10:09
ActionParsnipthesadmafioso: it may, but the kernel will not be supported heer10:10
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thesadmafiosoActionParsnip: Why is that? Just curious.10:10
ActionParsnipthesadmafioso: only the packages from the official repos for your release can be supoprted here10:11
thesadmafiosoActionParsnip: Is there a kernel version 3.0 or greater available in the repos for 10.04? How could I check that with apt-get or apt-cache?10:11
media-centreheres the output10:11
media-centrehttp://pastebin.com/wvkm4tH710:11
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: is it a touchscreen PC?10:12
media-centreno10:12
almoxarifesooner or later the question will come up, what can i do on linux-lxde(buntu) that i wont ever be able to do on an android?10:12
media-centrejust a pc with a tv for a monitor10:13
llutzalmoxarife: "not much"10:13
media-centrebrb10:13
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: if you run:  lsmod | grep uvc   do you get an output?10:14
dr_willisandroid is more  "sandboxed"/locked down. i guess would be a major differance10:15
media-centrewait their10:15
thesadmafiosoAh, seems that at least kernel image 3.0.0-13 is supported with 10.04 LTS; do I need any backports? apt is suggesting that I get some sort of Oneiric backport sources?10:15
media-centreno none10:15
dr_willis!backports10:15
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging10:15
almoxarifedr_willis: i installed lxde on the android, i am stripping lxde of everything the android does already, and i wont have much of the lxde left to even make it worth having it10:16
WaltherSo, uh, any news on nvidia-experimental-310 repackaging so that it would provide nvidia-current?10:17
Waltherbecause currently installing nvidia-experimental-310 uninstalls bumblebee10:17
dr_willisalmoxarife:   depends on your needs i guess.10:18
dr_willisnot all linux apps are ported to android. ;-)10:18
thesadmafiosodr_willis: I see a kernel version for 10.04 in the repos, and the backports pertaining to Oneiric are only "suggested" ; I may be fine without getting them, and if they were truly necessary they would be dependencies, yes?10:19
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: try:  sudo modprobe uvcvideo10:21
dr_willisbackpprts are a special case  i gurss you can say10:21
almoxarifewhy are so many people fixating on keeping 10.04 alive?, is that the magic distro for something i dont know about?10:21
ActionParsnipalmoxarife: could just run openbox on it's own (no DE), should be lighter10:22
dr_willisthey cling to the gnome....10:22
thesadmafiosoI am actually just in a position where it's better for me not to go trying a new distro; I'm limited in what I can do if things go wrong because of where I am/what I have at my disposal.10:22
almoxarifedr_willis: gnome2? that it?10:22
thesadmafiosoI like the gnome2!10:22
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thesadmafiosoIsn't there some point during the boot process where you can press SHIFT and manually select your kernel version?10:23
=== dark3n|off is now known as dark3n
dr_willisgnome2 had a lot of issues people like to overlook. ;-)  but its dead now..10:24
MonkeyDust <C +m10:24
MonkeyDust[3;2~10:24
dr_willisthesadmafioso:  at the start. or set the grub menu to not hide.10:24
almoxarifei went from gnome2 to kde, have not looked back10:24
thesadmafiosoAll right, well as long as I can do that I should be fine. Off to try this thing out.10:25
thesadmafiosoThank you all for your help/insight. :)10:25
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A_I_hi10:26
A_I_what means this regexp ?  : [-/%.0-9a-z]10:26
Andy80uff... I've disable the xorg-edgers PPA. Now if I want to remove the linux*3.7 packages, it also asks me to remove the metapackages like: linux-generic* and linux-headers, how can I avoid it?10:27
dzhusgood day, can I run an upstart init script if it's symlinked to another location?10:27
Andy80I just want to remove linux 3.7 packages10:27
dzhuslike ~/.init/foo.conf -> ~/system-scripts/foo.conf10:27
WaltherSo, uh, any news on nvidia-experimental-310 repackaging so that it would provide nvidia-current? At the moment installing the 310 drivers uninstalls bumblebee10:27
dr_willistheres a ppa-purge tool i belive10:27
dzhusupstart seems to not see the script at alll10:28
media-centreActionParsnip: ive done sudo modprobe uvcvideo10:28
media-centreand it hasnt shown anything10:28
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: you may need a udev rule to tell it that the sunplus ID is a webcam10:28
media-centreok so im editing a file for astartters i guess10:29
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: possibly10:29
MonkeyDustA_I_  it means 'all characters from 0-9 and from a-z plus the % sign'10:29
media-centrewell im not exactly expert at all of this10:30
media-centreso10:30
media-centreyoull have to take me through step by step10:30
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: gksudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/jj-video.rules10:31
A_I_MonkeyDust and the slash "/" sign too noo ?10:31
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: add:      SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="045e", ATTR{idProduct}=="072d", ACTION=="add", GROUP="audio", RUN+="/usr/local/bin/webcam-mic"10:31
A_I_what means the minus sign "-" ?10:31
media-centreok the file is blank10:31
ActionParsnipbut change the idProduct to 05ca and the idVendor to: 1bcf10:32
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: wait a sec, i'll neaten this up10:32
media-centreok10:32
media-centrethank you for this10:33
MonkeyDustA_I_  the / is used to indicate 'as is', so not as a symbol10:33
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A_I_thanks MonkeyDust !10:34
media-centreyou still their andy10:36
=== Guest31465 is now known as sad_panda
weoxhello , i am newbie in ubuntu , is there any official plan for releasing unity 6.12 for ubuntu 12.10 ? or should i wait for ubuntu next major release ??10:37
sevoxxNo.10:37
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: add this line: http://pastebin.com/u3yDNFMr10:37
media-centreok ive added and saved the document10:39
llutzA_I_: the regex matches all chars inside the brackets10:39
WaltherSo, uh, any news on nvidia-experimental-310 repackaging so that it would provide nvidia-current? At the moment installing the 310 drivers uninstalls bumblebee10:39
sabHi10:39
media-centreshould i restart and see if it works10:39
BlackWebIs it Possible to start a stream with VLC through the Webgui, or SSH Command Prompt?10:39
=== sad_panda is now known as regf
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: sure10:39
media-centreok see you in a minuit10:39
sabCould someone tell me if it is possible to have 2 GPU's working10:39
Guest73351pleas like http://my-video-xxx.notlong.com10:39
ActionParsnipBlackWeb: sure, you can run vlc in cli to setup a stream10:39
ActionParsnipsab: sure10:40
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BlackWebI have VLC installed on a Server which I'm trying to get to work and spent the last 5hrs Playing with it, Can only get it to work if I do it through My local system Gui not server10:41
Guest73351pleas like me      http://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp10:41
ActionParsnipBlackWeb: you can use vlc-nox10:41
Guest73351on my ip page face and palpok10:41
Guest73351http://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp10:41
DJonesGuest73351: Please don't spam, do you have an ubuntu support question10:41
ActionParsnipGuest73351: please stop spamming10:41
Guest73351ok10:42
sabActionParsnip: thanks for answering - my second monitor is plugged into my second GPU - how do I check if it can work.10:42
BlackWebHow do you use vlc-nox, no manual10:42
weoxcant anyone answer my  question ? is that silly  question ?? hello , i am newbie in ubuntu , is there any official plan for releasing unity 6.12 for ubuntu 12.10 ? or should i wait for ubuntu next major release ??10:42
Guest73351a10:42
Guest73351http://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp10:42
Guest73351ssssssssssss10:42
Guest73351http://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp10:42
Guest73351http://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp10:42
FloodBot1Guest73351: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:42
VirungaHi! I don't have unzip installed on my machine, must i have it installed for unzip files or there's another solution?10:43
ActionParsnipsab: you'll probably need an xorg.conf if the GPUs are different?10:44
media-centrenope didnt work10:44
ActionParsnipVirunga: install unp10:44
media-centreok10:45
media-centreoh wait that aint me10:45
sabActionParsnip: they are both the same and so are my monitors10:45
VirungaActionParsnip: isn't there any sys call/command i can use?10:45
ActionParsnipVirunga: could maybe use teh vlc web ui10:46
ActionParsnipsab: are they nvidia based?10:46
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: you'll need to play with that til it flies, that ID will help you find guides10:46
sabActionParsnip: unfortunately no they are ATI's10:46
VirungaActionParsnip: well, then i'll surrender and install something. Thanks :)10:47
media-centreok10:47
* regf watches the chat while waiting for his desktop to resume from hibernation... 2 hours of heavy disk activity, and it still haven't resumed yet10:48
* regf wonders wtf is it doing10:48
media-centreis it any particular digits10:49
media-centre4 or 10 or 710:49
mgedminwhoa, two hours?  ouch10:50
mgedminhibernation sucks, but two hours sounds excessive10:50
regfyeah, usually it resumes fine10:50
regflast time it happened, it resumed successfully after ~1 hour10:50
phixVirunga: sudo apt-get install zip unzip10:51
llutzregf: you seem to be a very patient person...10:51
phixVirunga: Nautalus by default can uncompress files10:51
greenwolfim patient :)10:51
greenwolfsup evefryone10:51
greenwolfeveryone*10:51
phixgreenwolf: werd up10:51
Virungaphix: i don't have the gui. I just installed ;)10:52
greenwolfphix: back at ya10:52
Virungaunzip10:52
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: use the 8 character hex id in your lsusb output10:52
greenwolfha updates...updates...updates..fun..fun.fun10:52
phixgreenwolf: <310:52
phixsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:52
media-centreok thanx10:53
StalebreadWhen using 'apt-get autoremove', is there any way to specify certain packages to ignore? There's one package I don't want to delete, but the rest can go.10:53
llutzStalebread: set in on hold10:53
regfit'd rather not turn it off while it's doing some heavy disk io, don't want to risk getting a bad sector or smthg10:53
ee12015que pasa10:54
ee12155#prog110:54
regfand it's not reacting to sysrq combinations10:55
media-centreis it after id vendor or id product10:55
media-centreit would be the product wouldnt it10:56
MonkeyDustStalebread  scroll down to 'holding packages' https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto10:57
phixee12155: no10:58
phixno spanlish10:58
phixspanglish*10:58
StalebreadAh thanks a lot. Just what I needed.10:59
ee12155#prog110:59
ee12155#prog110:59
llutzee* spam starts again, weekend's coming10:59
ee12026mete10:59
ee12155else10:59
ee12155#prog110:59
ee12026ola11:00
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MonkeyDustee12026  it works, you're in11:00
Guest12109http://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp11:00
Guest12109hello11:00
Guest12109welcom11:00
DJonesee12155: /csrb Guest1210911:00
Guest12109i am11:00
Guest12109in iraq11:00
trackerproblemHi, I have a weird problem with Quantal and my bittorrent client. It does not connect to trackers and ping and mtr show that anytime I try to connect to one it connects with local loop (127.0.0.1) instead of the gateway, while it works fine for the rest.11:01
phixGuest76940: nice, say hai to alla for me11:01
pecchello all, have problem with sound card... tried to figure out which model I have but the default commands fail me11:02
pecccat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec11:02
pecccat: /proc/asound/card0/codec*: No such file or directory11:02
phixpecc: lspci11:03
mario_buongiorno11:03
llutzpecc: cat /proc/asound/cards11:03
phixIt's a you! mario_!11:03
peccphix, llutz, thank you11:04
peccdear me do I even HAVE a card? those results don't show anything resembling one11:05
phixpecc: any time mate, let me know if there is anything else I can help you with11:05
peccphix, incidentally 13:0511:05
phixActionParsnip: I decided peperoni btw11:05
phixok, it is 22:06 here11:06
peccI did what you phix and llutz told me, cat /proc/ etc gave me only my stereo USB-Audio - C-Media USB Headphone Set11:07
pecc*stereo set11:07
phixpecc: oh it is USB?11:07
phixlsusb11:07
media-centrehallo again11:09
peccphix, thanks, I found C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter... most of my hardware is connected via usb since my laptop is blown, I tend to forget this is exceptional11:09
media-centrei tried the id code from lsusb and it dosent seem tto work11:10
media-centrei think that id no. is the one for my wireless keyboard11:11
atheerhttp://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp11:11
media-centreso it reallydosent come up11:11
atheermy video11:11
atheerhttp://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp11:11
media-centrenot even a whisper11:11
andishave a textfile full of text but i want to only grab out all the urls, how to do that?11:13
sabhow to register this nickname please?11:14
DJones!register | sab11:14
ubottusab: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode11:14
cratok/msg nickserv register11:15
MonkeyDustandis  with grep, like cat [text file] | grep [http] > some file11:15
MonkeyDustandis  with grep, like cat [text file] | grep [http] > [some file]11:15
andisMonkeyDust the urls are mixed with surrounded text, its rss i think11:16
media-centrehey are you still thi11:16
media-centretheir*11:16
media-centreandy11:17
Rainsgrr11:17
media-centreguess not11:18
media-centreAction yoou their11:18
media-centreok fine11:19
media-centrecan anyone help me out im trying to find the 8 digit hex ID to my logictech webcam11:20
phix ActionParsnip is not worth worrying about, if you need some help ask me media-centre11:20
phixmedia-centre: use lsusb11:21
media-centredidnt come up11:21
media-centreit came up with all my other usb devices11:21
ivan_hi11:21
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Guest27771help me11:21
=== Guest27771 is now known as ivan_sintang
ananymussshas anyone been able to install 12.10 desktop 64-bit amd from a usb driv successfully?11:22
phixananymusss: never tried11:22
media-centreso any chance of some help phix11:23
phixmedia-centre: you bet!11:23
yblangkubuhi11:23
phixmedia-centre: plug your camera and type in lsusb11:23
ananymusssi'd also like some help if possible...11:23
phixif it doesnt sho up then try sudo lsudb11:23
media-centredidnnt come up11:23
phixlsusb even11:23
phixif it still doesnt come up then plug in your USB device11:23
yblangkubuthis is my  first time using weechat .. nice to meet you all guys..11:24
phixif it still doesn't then plug it in11:24
media-centresame thing11:24
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: if the file is no good, delete it11:24
ActionParsnipananymusss: many times11:24
phixyou should plug it in11:24
phixtrace the cable back11:24
yblangkubuphix: hi11:24
shutpeashey, how do i remove all java installs without installing a load of alternatives?11:24
phixthen plug it in11:24
phixyblangkubu: sup11:24
regfandis: if you know a bit of perl you can try Regexp::Common module to extract urls11:24
media-centreand how do i do that11:24
phixananymusss: use python's re11:25
media-centrecal me thick in the head11:25
media-centrei need simple instructions11:25
media-centreeven how11:25
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: whom are yuo addressing?11:25
media-centrephix11:25
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: see how my text highlights you, that's not an accident11:25
ananymusssActionParsnip: i've been trying to install 12.10 64-bit amd ubuntu for the past 3 hours from a usb stick and it hasn't worked. the hash of the iso i downloaded matches with the expected has and i'm using the usb set-up .exe that is on the download page...11:25
media-centreyeaa the id hex is not coming up11:25
andishow do i get that regf11:26
media-centrei think its for my wireless keyboard11:26
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: if you type a few letters of the nick and hit tab it will complete and you will highlight themm, just as I am highlighting you11:26
phixmedia-centre: look at the camera, then touch it, feel around the back, there you will notice a long cylinder that trails at the back of it, grab it and move your hands down it until you get to the end11:26
phixit should be attached to your computer11:26
ActionParsnipananymusss:  do you get a black screen at boot?11:26
media-centreit is11:27
ananymusssright now i'm looking at a screen that says:11:27
ananymusssNo DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found!11:27
ananymusssboot : _11:27
media-centrestill dosent come up11:27
ananymusssi can type things in....11:27
ActionParsnipananymusss: how did you put the ISO on the USB?11:27
_bootananymusss: excuse me?11:27
media-centrethe only time i got it working was by a script for skype11:28
media-centreall it was was the same line twice11:28
ananymusssActionParsnip: I used http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows11:28
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regfandis: it's in libregexp-common-perl package if that's what you're asking about11:28
ananymusssi formatted a 2.0gb partition of my usb stick into FAT and then used that installer (without having the installer's format option selected)11:29
media-centreim gonna see what was in that script11:29
ActionParsnipananymusss: have you tried a different USB stick?11:29
ananymusssno i haven't- i don't have one11:29
nikttohi all, how do you manage packaging for different architectures and versions of ubuntu? I'm looking for most optimal way to automate daily builds on only one machine11:29
ananymusssi used it just a few hours ago to install windows 7 64 bit and it went fine...11:29
ActionParsnipananymusss: have you tried the device in a different PC?11:29
ananymusssyes, my laptop11:30
ananymusssshould i try to use FAT32 instead of FAT?11:30
ActionParsnipananymusss: yes, use FAT3211:31
Touhou11ananymusss: Have you tried ReiserFS?11:31
ananymusssno sir11:32
Touhou11Wouldn't recommend it11:32
MonkeyDustTouhou11  FAT is readable by most systems, my manual here says reiserFS is not really fit for ubuntu11:32
ee12026manda o nome do chat11:32
ee12026manda o nome do chat11:32
ee12026manda o nome do chat11:32
FloodBot1ee12026: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:32
loostrohello, i need help with http://serverfault.com/questions/453811/how-to-configure-php-cli-on-linux-debian-to-run-as-www-data11:33
ananymusssanyone here have experience with Arch?11:33
pecctrouble with alsamixer... No command 'alsa-mixer' found, did you mean:11:33
pecc Command 'alsamixer' from package 'alsa-utils' (main)11:33
peccalsa-mixer: command not found11:33
peccpeccan@Theo:~$ alsamixer11:33
pecccannot open mixer: No such file or directory11:33
rymate1234#archlinux11:33
FloodBot1pecc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:33
MonkeyDustloostro  ubuntu is not the same as debian, better ask in #debian11:33
ActionParsnipananymusss: ask in #arch11:33
rymate1234ActionParsnip, its #archlinux11:33
rymate1234unless he means the actual app arch11:33
loostroMonkeyDust: i actually use ubuntu11:34
ActionParsniprymate1234: my bad, though it would be aliased.11:34
shutpeashey, how do i remove all java installs without installing a load of alternatives?11:39
phixshutpeas: sudo apt-get --purge remove '*java*'11:40
ActionParsnipphix: dpkg -l | grep java     make a choice there11:40
shutpeasphix: done that, doesn't work11:41
shutpeasActionParsnip, ill try that now11:41
phixshutpeas: ok11:42
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media-centreok im back11:48
media-centreheres the line that made it work11:48
media-centreLD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype11:48
media-centreill see if this has got it11:48
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empty#irc.cryto.net11:51
media-centreok it has ot it11:51
media-centreso im guessing its just script files11:52
media-centrei just went on synaptic and instaled developement files for libv4l11:53
media-centreso maybe it will work now11:53
fishcookerim using desktop lucid11:54
fishcookeri wanna ask the built in chat messenger on right panel11:54
media-centreso phix any idea on how to fix this11:58
media-centreor Action how bout yoou11:58
media-centreok theyve both bailed on me12:01
media-centregreat12:01
media-centreok12:01
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ActionParsnipmedia-centre: i have no idea12:04
BustacapIf I don't have a blank dvd, can I just extract the iso to a new partition, flag it as boot, and remove the boot flag from the current boot partition?12:05
media-centrecant think of anything12:05
ActionParsnipBustacap: grub2 can boot ISO files12:06
BustacapActionParsnip: I love how you are always here and know everything.12:07
BustacapLol.12:07
BustacapHow do I go about doing that?12:07
media-centrenot everything12:07
ActionParsnipBustacap: I know some12:07
ActionParsnipBustacap: http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2009/05/25/boot-an-iso-via-grub2/12:08
BustacapThat looks confusing o.O12:08
emptyhow to change network?12:10
trackerproblemcan please someone tell me the ip address of tracker.ccc.de? just tell me the ip addres you get when you do 'nslookup tracker.ccc.de'12:10
ActionParsnipempty: irc network you mean?12:10
emptyyes12:10
emptyi tries /server irc.cryto.net:666712:10
emptybut its not ocnnecting12:11
ActionParsniptrackerproblem: goes to 127.0.0.112:12
emptyi wanted to join the irc.cryto.net:6667 network12:12
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regfBustacap: even if it boots, it still may not work12:15
trackerproblemActionParsnip I get the same problem, are dns servers blocking torrent trackers?12:15
regfBustacap: it depends what are you trying to boot12:15
ActionParsniptrackerproblem: no idea, sorry12:15
Bustacapregf: Trying to boot windows 8.12:15
ActionParsniptrackerproblem: are you UK based?12:15
BustacapRan out of blank dvd's and don't feel like waiting until 10 for walmart to open :P12:15
media-centrehey how comes skype dont come up on ubuntu software or synaptic12:16
trackerproblemActionParsnip nope12:16
media-centrehave they cancelled it or somthing12:16
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: you need to enable the partner repo12:16
regfBustacap: probably won't work12:16
media-centreok12:16
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: not cancelled at all12:16
=== jrgifford is now known as Guest2393
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: or you can get it from the skype website12:16
Bustacapregf: Why not?12:17
emptyneed help!!! I wanted to join the irc.cryto.net:6667 network but is unable to connect .I tried to connect by "/server irc.cryto.net:6667" but i gave error "host name misspelled"!12:17
bazhangempty, ask in #freenode12:17
ActionParsnipempty: can you ping the server name?12:17
emptydidn't try it12:17
regfBustacap: because as soon as Windows kernel starts, it doesn't use BIOS and the CD emulation anymore12:17
empty*trying now *12:18
ActionParsnipempty: surely thats the first thing to try....?12:18
regfBustacap: it will be looking for the real CD/DVD drive12:18
Bustacapregf: That's why I was thinking of just extracting the iso to the partition I plan on installing it on and marking it as the only thing with boot flags.12:18
regfBustacap: marking it bootable is not enough12:19
regfBustacap: you also need a partition bootloader and its configuration12:20
emptyActionParsnip i ping the server its responding.but still unable to connect to the network12:21
Bustacapregf: Doesn't the iso have a boot config?12:21
regfBustacap: booting CD/DVD is a different process than booting a HD partition12:22
BustacapTrue.12:22
BustacapBrb. Gonna try something.12:23
Kartagiswould using pvcreate on an already existing partition wreck it?12:23
Ny0hi everyone, you know if there is a way to backup windows partitions (with bootloader, ecc) on dvd using ubuntu live ?12:24
ikoniaNy0: look at clonezilla live cd12:25
ActionParsnipNy0: you can make an image of the MBR using dd, then backup the data12:25
regfNy0: many ways - copying whole block device with dd-like tool, copying only used parts with ntfsclone, or even copying just files if you're careful about preserving all file attributes12:27
regfI don't think preserving MBR is important if it's a standard Windows MBR, it can easily be restored with testdisk for example12:29
Ny0regf: it's a damn win8 notebook without dvd restore -.-'12:30
Ny0i'm trying to avoid this problem by doing backup in other ways12:30
Ny0with xp i remember it was easy to restore mbr12:30
peccmy sound disappears randomly, disconnect/reconnect dock helps but only for some time12:30
peccafaik i have upgraded drivers etc12:31
Ny0regf: but in this case is more complex because there is lenovo oneclick recovery12:31
tizzi'm having some trouble making a desktop file to run an sh, how do i run the desktopfile validatation tool12:31
BustacapIt worked hmmm12:32
BustacapInstalling as we speak12:32
Ny0regf: so is not a standard windows mbr -.-'12:32
BustacapJust extracted and marked the partition as boot12:33
BustacapCan't wait till its installed so I can get back to ubuntu lol12:33
regfNy0: hmm, Win8 may be tricky due to secureboot, GUID partition table and all that stuff12:33
regfBustacap: nice, good to know it's smart enough to work that way :)12:34
BustacapSo far lol12:34
xyzonesecureboot machines are boned12:35
psychopathici work over time at 1 unit.12:35
Ny0regf: its a big deal but i'd really like to modify part table preserving the possibility to restore the notebook one day12:36
media-centredoes anyone know why i cant change the permissions on an a .sh file12:36
media-centrefor some reason its not letting me12:36
Ny0regf: in this moment it is a useless pc12:36
media-centrei miss linux mint12:36
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: how, its still actively developed.12:37
regfNy0: I would probably image the whole disk just in case there are some important bits hidden somewhere12:37
media-centrebut it wont load as a program12:37
media-centrebrb12:37
Ny0regf: 500 gb O.o12:39
regfNy0: compress it with gzip (or maybe lzop because it's faaaast)12:39
regfNy0: most of it is probably filled with zeroes if it's new12:39
regfNy0: or copy it to a sparse file12:40
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: how do you mean 'as a program'?12:41
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: do you mean wubi?12:41
Ny0regf: i will try12:41
media-centreNO12:41
Ny0regf: tnx12:41
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regfNy0: or a compressed file if the file system supports it (btrfs, NTFS, ZFS)12:41
media-centrewhen you click properties12:41
media-centreand then permissions12:41
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: on what?12:42
media-centretheirs a option to run it as a program12:42
BustacapInstalled successfully12:42
BustacapWoot12:42
media-centrethe file browser12:42
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: then use:  chmod +x filename     works in any distro.12:42
media-centrehuh my god and your in a help channel12:42
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media-centreok thanx12:43
ActionParsnipmedia-centre: then when you double click the file, it will run. Did you seriously switch disto for that...12:43
media-centreno12:43
BustacapWoah nirvana12:43
BustacapI just started playing lithium on guitar12:43
BustacapLolol12:43
Spiders /server irc.blackirc.org 666712:45
Ny0regf what if i copy only win8 partition and i try to fix mbr with win8 cd12:46
Ny0?12:46
satyahello we are running ubuntu 10.10 server .. we are facing issue related to connection getting reset when we access port 80 .. all other ports are accessed properly. we have disabled iptables and all other firewall ufw but still no luck12:48
media-centreno still aint woking12:48
media-centreill create a duplicate and try it again12:49
MonkeyDustsatya10.10 is no longer suppedort12:49
fishcookerwhy you disable all firewall satya12:49
MonkeyDustsatya 10.10 is no longer supported*12:49
satyait is a local server for testing12:49
satyaok12:49
fishcookeryou should take 10.04 for sure12:49
fishcookerLTS12:49
MonkeyDustor 12.0412:50
fishcookerthankyou MonkeyDust12:50
MonkeyDustsatya there's also #ubuntu-server12:50
fishcookerare you on 12.04 or still on 10.0412:50
regfNy0: I don't have any experience yet with Win8, that's why I would image the whole disk12:50
MonkeyDustNy0 this is not the right place for win8 questions12:51
Ny0MonkeyDust: ^^ sorry.12:51
regfNy0: "cp --copy-contents --sparse=always /dev/sdx sdx.img" will create a sparse image (skipping zeros), which shouldn't take much space12:52
satyasorry my mistake it is 10.0412:53
Ny0regf: thank you very much12:54
satyacan anybody help12:54
satyaDISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu12:54
satyaDISTRIB_RELEASE=10.0412:54
satyaDISTRIB_CODENAME=lucid12:54
satyaDISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS"12:54
FloodBot1satya: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:54
satyahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1399023/12:55
tizzi cannot seem to get my desktop file to work12:59
tizzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1399032/12:59
userzeroxI get this error when i compile Ansi C complaint programs. fatal error: conio.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. Please help me fix it!12:59
tizzi double click it, it looks like its trying to launch, but never does13:00
tizzcan anyone see why that desktop file is not launching the script its pointing at13:01
xyzonetizz, try running the script in terminal13:03
tizzthe script works by itself fine13:03
tizzbut my desktop file cant seem to open it13:03
tizzcould it be because the script itself is set to execute?13:04
tizzbe executable13:04
xyzoneshould just place it in ~/bin and put it in your path13:04
media-centre_that chmod command didnt work13:05
media-centre_its not executing it13:05
media-centre_i miss linux mint13:06
llutz_tizz: does the script need a terminal to run in? then you'll have to open it inseide a terminal when calling from desktop-file13:06
BustacapIt's nice to be back in linux :)13:06
media-centre_all this root acess shit would of disapeared13:06
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tizzit does not need the terminal to run in, i can just set the .sh as executable and run it and it opens the game13:07
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media-centre_dont you think ive tried that already13:07
tizzbut i'll try the terminal launch anyway13:08
media-centre_it wont let me13:08
media-centre_i tcikcthe box it dosent happen13:08
media-centre_tick the *13:08
oddiehowdie all, is there a fix for the left menu bar to appear when in auto hide? I can press super and it appears, If I take off autohide it is fine?.. as soon as I click on hide through compiz-settings-manager it hides and mouse wont release it back. Any help?13:08
media-centre_i cant even run a dektop launcher without it saying root13:09
media-centre_its crap13:09
media-centre_absolute crap13:09
Picimedia-centre_: drop the attitude please, people here are trying to help you.13:10
media-centre_yea and al their efferts seem to not work13:10
danie44Can anyone help me with something?13:11
media-centre_i bet if they suggested all of this on mint13:11
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media-centre_it would of worked13:11
danielbauwensMy brother made that when i go to this certain site, it goes to localhost13:11
danielbauwensI know i can use proxy, but i prefer just to "remove" whatever he did13:12
Picimedia-centre_: How are you trying to execute the script?13:12
media-centre_terminal13:12
media-centre_double clicking it13:12
media-centre_trying to run it from a launcher13:13
media-centre_take your pick13:13
media-centre_theyve all screwed up13:13
loinwhat is the default gcc version in the latest ubuntu?13:13
media-centre_either cos of root13:13
Picimedia-centre_: When you use the terminal to execute it, what error message are you getting?13:13
phixmedia-centre_: hai pal13:13
Pici!info gcc13:13
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.117ubuntu1)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.0-5ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 5 kB, installed size 41 kB13:13
danielbauwensCan someone help me?13:14
danielbauwensIt would be nice13:14
phixdanielbauwens: ok what up?13:14
media-centre_heres the ine13:14
Picidanielbauwens: I'd start by taking a look at /etc/hosts13:14
media-centre_sudo: /home/media-centre/skype.sh: command not found13:14
MonkeyDustdanielbauwens if we know what your brother did, we can try to undo it13:14
danielbauwensMy brother made the url of a website redirect to localhost13:14
MonkeyDustdanielbauwens any reasons why he did it? maybe he doesnt want you to visit it13:15
Picimedia-centre_: Do you need to access it with sudo privleges?13:15
danielbauwensIt's a pony forum lol :D13:15
danielbauwensBronies13:15
media-centre_yea13:15
phixdanielbauwens: You like ponies?13:16
danielbauwensHe thinks i'm spying on him13:16
danielbauwensI don't mind them, but he likes them13:16
danielbauwensI mean mylittlepony13:16
media-centre_otherwise its permission denied13:16
MonkeyDustmedia-centre then try chown [your user] [your user]13:16
phixdanielbauwens: cool13:16
phixdanielbauwens: those guys rock13:16
danielbauwens:D13:16
danielbauwensbrohoof13:16
phix<313:16
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media-centre_why twice13:17
oddieis there a fix for the left menu bar to appear when in auto hide? I can press super and it appears, If I take off autohide it is fine?.. as soon as I click on hide through compiz-settings-manager it hides and mouse wont release it back. Any help?13:18
MonkeyDustmedia-centre what's the output of ls -l [your file]  ?13:19
hello_world_hello13:20
media-centre_heres the output13:20
media-centre_-rw------- 1 media-centre media-centre 152 Nov 30 13:02 /home/media-centre/skype.sh13:20
media-centre_ok thats done the trick13:21
llutz_media-centre_: chmod 755  /home/media-centre/skype.sh13:21
media-centre_thanx13:21
llutz_media-centre_: why do you need a script to run skype and why do you need to use sudo for it?13:22
phixllutz_: why not13:22
phixsudo is great13:22
danielbauwensOkay thanks guys13:22
media-centre_dosent matter now13:22
danielbauwensIt was indeed in /hosts13:22
llutz_phix: stop your random nonsense please13:22
phixllutz_: ?13:22
phixIt wasnt random13:22
phixit was very specific13:22
psychopathicthey smoke weed on velocity radian.13:23
phixnothing wrong with sudo, that is a true, if skype is lously programmed that it requires root access to run then why not run it via sudo13:23
llutz_phix: still nonsense13:23
phixllutz_: no sense13:23
xyzonedon't use skype13:23
phixyou get that, software providers being used to writting windows apps being lazy and not implementing usermode correctly13:24
phixso it requires root / admin access to run13:24
phixfair enough13:24
llutz_skype mightto be avoided but it neither needs root-right nor should it be run as root13:24
phixllutz_: it does if it was programmed so13:24
Slartskype doesn't require root for me.. runs just fine here as a regular user13:25
llutz_phix: it wasn't13:25
sidd_makplz suggest some package which can recover deleted files from FAT file system.13:25
phixI dont know, I dont use it, but I wouldnt be suprised if it does13:25
Myrttiphix Ive never needed sudo to run skype nor have I heard anyone else needing it13:25
phixMyrtti: great13:25
llutz_phix: so whats the point of all your comments then? just blahhblah13:25
Myrttisidd_mak: photorec might help13:26
phixllutz_: being helpful13:26
llutz_you aren't phix13:26
phixllutz_: you arnt helpful either, shut up13:26
xyzonesidd_mak, testdisk13:26
sidd_makMyrtti : no only image but all kind of files13:26
llutz_sidd_mak: photorec recovers more than photos, just a confusing name13:27
fishcookerfahim are you alrite13:27
Myrttisidd_mak: yes, it might help. I cant remember if it can recover any files13:27
BluesKajHowdy all13:28
fahimfishcooker nice to meet you. I'm very new here.13:29
sidd_makMyrtti xyzone llutz_ : thanks guys....13:29
phixwho else lkes robert kirkman's work on ubuntu?13:29
fahimbut not a very new ubuntu user.13:29
fishcookeri dont think so fahim13:30
regfsidd_mak: photorec is for recovering files from any filesystem, I don't know if it uses any FS information besides free space ; if you just want FAT undelete, testdisk may be a better option13:31
fahimwhat do you think? fishcooker13:31
regfsidd_mak: there is undelete option in advanced menu13:31
fahimfishcooker are you there?13:34
fishcookeryes13:34
knoppixi have 3g  usb modem,  how unmount 3g modem cd driver13:35
deffragHi! I'm using IDE/SATA to USB adapter which uses external power supply like - http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-TO-IDE-SATA-S-SATA-Converter-CABLE-Adaptor-w-POWER-/220764567409? - I've connected 750GB HDD to the adapter but I'm not able to get it working on Ubuntu 12.04. dmesg, lsusb, fdisk -l logs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399099/ . How can I fix it please?13:35
Slartknoppix: if it's a kernel driver you might be able to unload it using modprobe13:35
media-centre_well i got it to execute13:36
media-centre_but it still aint making the webcam load up13:36
llutz_deffrag: according to your logs, it is detected. sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt13:36
knoppixSlart, ok . thank you.13:37
deffragllutz, Hi, I can see its detected and I tried that command but it asked for proper filesystem. I ran blkid and then gparted to get proper filesystem but it didn't help13:37
llutz_deffrag: sudo fsck /dev/sdb113:38
xyzonedeffrag, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=966321&page=213:38
regfdeffrag: don't do any fsck!13:39
regfdeffrag: the disk isn't detected properly!13:39
deffragllutz, Forgot to give blkid log - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399106/ . Why is there a need to check and repair fs using fsck?13:39
deffragregf, I haven't yet13:40
regfdeffrag: your USB interface is lying13:40
regfdeffrag: it says the disk has 4K logical sector size, while it should be 512 bytes13:40
deffragxyzone, Thanks, I'll go through that. regf : How so?13:41
fishcookeri wanto mounting spesific partition13:41
fishcookeras home13:41
fishcookerrather than using single partition13:41
regfdeffrag: I don't know if there is any way to override it13:41
fishcookershould i rsync /home folder manually to the new partition13:41
regfdeffrag: I guess you could modify partition table to fit if your partitions were 4k aligned, but they are not13:44
deffragregf, Possible. I tried another 2.5" HDD and it worked easily opening the file manager13:44
MonkeyDustmedia-centre_ did the chmod trick help?13:44
deffragregf, I'm not sure what could have caused that issue to 750GB drive13:45
deffragIt was working fine and is used as booting device on the desktop machine13:45
deffragbooted fine on desktop in past, I mean13:46
oddieis there a fix for the left menu bar to appear when in auto hide? I can press super and it appears, If I take off autohide it is fine?.. as soon as I click on hide through compiz-settings-manager it hides and mouse wont release it back. Any help?13:46
regfdeffrag: older hard drives may be detected properly by your USB adapter, never drives - 512k logical / 4k physical may be mangled to 4k logical / 4k phys.13:47
deffragllutz, regf : Sorry I forgot to mention that the /home on it is encrypted... is that causing the issue/13:47
regfdeffrag: your USB adapter is probably lying intentionally, they do it to make bigger drives than 2TB work on Windows13:48
deffragregf, Both the drive 2.5" are newer13:48
regfdeffrag: it's a trick to make 2TB+ drives accessible with msdos partition table13:48
deffragAnd the adapter is working fine for another new 2.5" drive13:48
deffragwell13:48
WaltherIs the nvidia-experimental-310 going to be repackaged any time soon? It does not provide nvidia-current, causing bumblebee to uninstall13:49
regfdeffrag: it's probably working fine for drives with 512k log. / 512 k phys. sector size13:49
regfdeffrag: and it's probably lying for 512k log / 4 k phys13:49
regfdeffrag: either connect the drive directly without the USB adapter, or buy an adapter which doesn't mangle sector sizes13:50
deffragregf, sector size detected for first is 4096bytes and second working one is 512bytes13:50
Walther!package nvidia-experimental-31013:51
deffragOkay13:51
phixThe plot thickens13:51
ActionParsnip!info nvidia-experimental-310 | Walther13:51
ubottuWalther: Package nvidia-experimental-310 does not exist in quantal13:51
regfdeffrag: yep, that's what I thought13:51
deffragregf, I'll try connecting it directly to laptop13:51
WaltherEhh?13:51
subdesignhey, can i combine Krusader splitted large file with windows Total Commander ?13:51
WaltherAnyway, who is maintaining that package?13:51
reelsHi, sscanf() seems buggy in ubuntu LTS (10.04, 12.04). Test program works well on other systems apparently : http://ideone.com/bKiiwY  . Any idea why ? Thanks.13:51
WaltherIt needs a rebuild; it doesn't provide 'nvidia-current', causing a big issue with bumblebee13:52
ActionParsnipWalther: try http://packages.ubuntu.com13:52
deffragregf, Can encryption report wrong sector size to protect or something?13:52
llutz_Walther: apt-cache show nvidia-current|grep -i maint13:53
media-centre_what i cant understand is why of all the webcams does that one decide to not work13:53
media-centre_i mean is it loyal to microshit13:53
xyzonemedia-centre, because no drivers13:54
media-centre_oh their are drivers13:54
ikoniamedia-centre_: drop the language/attitude13:54
media-centre_their just just for older kernals13:54
media-centre_mind you thats an idea13:54
regfdeffrag: don't confuse encryption block with hard drive sector size13:55
media-centre_cos im sure their are .so files in the drivers that ican just pick one of them to get it working13:55
phixikonia: drop the authoriterianess13:55
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regfdeffrag: two independent things13:55
FloodBot1Ho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:55
phixho no13:55
deffragregf, do you mind if I pm you on the same?13:56
deffragThanks13:57
ikoniaphix: the language is unacceptable,13:57
phixikonia: If you get offended by language you may as well not speak to anyone13:58
ikoniaphix: the channel has rules on offensive language, then include no cursing, that's why he was pulled up on it13:58
phixikonia: I wasn't offended13:59
ikoniaphix: it's not "my" rules, it's the channels, you're welcome to request discussion on it through the operators team13:59
phixok, lets discuss13:59
ikoniaphix: it doesn't matter if you are offended or not in that respect, the channels rules are no cursing, if you are not happy with those rules a.) raise it as a concern to the operators team b.) don't use the channel13:59
phixikonia: I prefer a over b13:59
phixI like using this channel13:59
ikoniaphix: I'll pm you the email address of the ubuntu IRC council and you can send you concerns to them13:59
ikoniaphix: great, b is a bad option13:59
OerHeksphix, stop it please.14:00
ikoniaphix: I'll pm you the email address to send your complaint14:00
phixI Just dont like the idiotic rules that people apply to this channel14:00
phixikonia: thank you14:00
phixOerHeks: ikonia and I are just discussing that14:00
phixQuix0te: your input isnt required14:00
ikoniaand now it's done14:00
phixOerHeks: even, sorry Quix0te, tab complete fail14:01
phixawesome, much appreciated14:01
phixin the mean time, any one need some ubuntu help?  I have 10 yrs of IT experience up my belt14:01
ActionParsnipphix: 10 years of Ubuntu as well?14:02
* BluesKaj can't wait to see this :)14:02
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phixActionParsnip: nope, 10 years of linux, redhat, mandrake, slackware, debian then ubuntu about 5 years ago14:02
Pici!offtopic14:02
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:02
rymate1234lol14:03
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ActionParsnipphix: hehe mandrake, I started on mandrake :)14:03
wormDoes anyone know how to install skype on my x86_64 12.10 Ubuntu? apt-get shows that skype is not available.14:03
phixActionParsnip: I Only liked enlightenment in Mandrake14:03
OerHeksworm, enable partner repo14:03
ActionParsnipworm: grab the 64bit deb from skype's website14:03
ikonia!skype | worm14:03
ubottuworm: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga14:03
xyzoneI started on ubuntu 5.1014:04
wormThanks a lot.14:04
phixI started with a woody14:04
ActionParsnipworm: wget -O skype_Ubuntu-current_amd64.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-6414:04
phixdebian that is14:04
ActionParsnipworm: sudo dpkg -i ./skype_Ubuntu-current_amd64.deb; sudo apt-get -f install14:05
phixwhy use skype for?14:05
wormActionParsnip: I see. I'll try that.14:05
ActionParsnipphix: chat to other skype users14:05
phixskype is a service, asterisk is a full package14:05
phixuse asteriak14:05
phixit is ubuntu too14:05
phixskype is out of topic14:05
ActionParsnipphix: to chat to skype users using voice?14:05
xyzoneI wonder why the 32-bit is still recommended14:06
phixActionParsnip: out of topic14:06
Piciphix: stop it14:06
ActionParsnipphix: its in the official ubuntu partner repo, so is supported14:06
phixPici: ? who are you?14:06
phixActionParsnip: nah asterisk is supported more though14:06
phixby ubuntu and debian14:06
ikoniaphix: drop it please.14:06
ikoniayou're causing a problem14:06
Piciphix: You're misleading users, and annoying the helpers.14:07
phixikonia: I am not causing a problem14:07
phixI am a helper14:07
phixPici: I am helping14:07
ikoniayou're not helping, please slow down and think about what you are saying14:07
phixikonia: I am, asterisk is the full package, skype is just a service14:07
xDesuI just hope whoever doesn't get the multiarch issue with x64 I experienced on 12.10.14:07
phixyou have no source control with skype14:07
ikoniaphix: yes, he ants to use skype14:07
phixyou do with asterisk14:07
ikoniait's supported14:07
ikoniayou can offer suggestions for other packages, but please, don't make things up14:08
ActionParsnipxDesu: in what package?14:08
phixikonia: hmmmm14:08
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phixikonia: I am making things up?14:08
xDesuActionParsnip, it was an issue with multiarch not being enabled on my system by default so I couldn't install skype.14:08
phixikonia: it is true though14:08
ActionParsnipphix: this channel supports packages from teh official ubuntu repos. The partner repor IS an official repo, its just disabled by default14:08
ikoniaphix: when you said skype is "off topic"14:08
ActionParsnipphix: as skype is in that repo, it is supported here. Clear enough?14:09
Guest17861Hello14:09
xDesuGuest17861, hi there.14:09
phixActionParsnip: ok it is supported, I am not arguing that, I am arguing that asterisk is the better choice, it is also supported and in the repo14:09
ActionParsnipxDesu: if use 64bit in newer releases, it is enabled by default, your OS should puul in 32bit deps to satisfy thet deps14:10
Guest17861how are you xdesu14:10
xDesuGuest17861, you may want to change your name(if you don't know how "/nick <name>14:10
phixikonia: ah ok14:10
phixikonia: well ActionParsnip argued / debated another point14:10
ActionParsnipphix: that's fine, but saying 'skype is out of topic' is incorrect, isn't it?14:10
Guest17861Ace14:10
phixikonia: I agree now it is supported, I just looked it up :)14:10
xDesuActionParsnip, it wasn't enabled on my copy of 12.10, but don't worry I have long since resolved the issue.14:10
phixActionParsnip: yes, but it isn't the best choice14:10
ikoniathat's debatable14:11
ikoniait's personal opnion14:11
ikoniaopinion14:11
ActionParsnipxDesu: if you use apt-get it should work ok. aptitude doesn't play taht way14:11
phixasterisk is far superior14:11
xDesuActionParsnip, I had to run14:11
ActionParsnipphix: that's not the issue at hand. You said it's "out of topic", which is wrong. Isn't it14:11
phixikonia: really? is it a personal opionion that you can use asterisk as a full blown PBX? and have access to the source?14:11
ActionParsnipphix: if it's ontopic, why say it's not?14:11
ikoniaphix: please stop now, I'm getting board14:12
Guest17861can you speak german xdesu14:12
phixActionParsnip: I thought it wasnt as skype is very commerial14:12
ikoniaphix: the user wanted to connect to skype - he wanted the skype clients14:12
xDesuActionParsnip, I had to run "dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get install ia32-libs" the issue has already been resolved though so don't worry about it.14:12
Piciphix: asterisk is not a replacement for skype for someone who wants to chat to skype users.14:12
phixActionParsnip: I forget that ubuntu doesnt have the same values as debian14:12
Guest17861Bye bye14:13
xDesuGuest17861 #ubuntu-de14:13
WaltherActionParsnip: created a bug about it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-experimental-310/+bug/108504414:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1085044 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-experimental-310 (Ubuntu) "nvidia-experimental-310 does not provide nvidia-current" [Undecided,New]14:13
ActionParsnipWalther: good start :)14:14
xDesuActionParsnip, you seem to be in here quite a lot.14:15
ActionParsnipxDesu: kinda :)14:15
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xDesuI hope to learn much from you master.14:16
ActionParsnipxDesu: as you use the OS, you'll learn :)14:16
Tex_Nick 14:17
xDesuI've already learned tons in my single year of actually using ubuntu(though I'm not on Debian for my laptop), but yea. Learn loads from other people's issues here.14:17
xDesuI meant to say I am on Debian...14:17
ActionParsnipxDesu: straight up14:17
xDesuStraight up?14:18
ActionParsnipxDesu: yes / I agree14:18
xDesuAhh, sorry the unexpected usage of "straight up" caught me a bit offguard.14:18
MadEchidnaHey any X11 wizards here? I was using Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit and then a friend of mine talked me in to install 64 bit instead and it's been nothing but headaches14:22
MadEchidnaOn a clean install, installing the AMD video driver from the software sources applet, without any special ppas or anything, didn't work14:22
MadEchidnaI was able to get it working after fudging around with x11 edgers for a few days, but yesterday I got a kernel update and no matter what I try I can't get the damn thing to work14:23
MadEchidnaI keep getting this error over and over14:23
MadEchidnaERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.7.0-4-generic is not supported14:23
MadEchidnaError! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.7.0-4-generic (x86_64)14:23
khufuare you sure it is a 64bit package?14:23
MadEchidnakhufu, what do you mean?14:24
khufuwell the linux-headers14:24
MadEchidnaI'm just install it like normal with apt, I didn't download a deb somewhere14:24
MadEchidnahow do I check?14:24
ActionParsnipMadEchidna: ask in #ubuntu+1 for raring support14:24
MadEchidna?14:24
ActionParsnipMadEchidna: 3.7 is the raring kernel14:24
Aceguest1786114:25
MadEchidnaI meant 12.10 ActionParsnip14:27
MadEchidnaI don't know if that's the right channel14:27
jribMadEchidna: you need to explain where that kernel is coming from then14:27
PiciMadEchidna: what does apt-cache policy linux-headers-3.7.0-4-generic say?14:27
SiebjeeHi guys, i am having some issues with changing the default ulimit settings. Normally you add * - nofile 65535 to /ect/security/limits.conf and when you ssh to the server your openfiles (ulimit -n) will be at 65535. But for some reason i have to manually change it with ulimit -n 65535 in order to get the limit settings i want on my server. Is there a other way to achive this ?14:27
jribSiebjee: I think something needs to be added to pam, one sec14:28
MadEchidnaPici, http://pastebin.ca/225865014:28
MadEchidnajrib, the default repos? I purged the PPAs I had14:28
Siebjeejrib, i already added 'session require pam_limits.so' to the /etc/pam.d/common-session14:29
jribSiebjee: that should work afaik assuming you've defined the limits correctly14:30
RickZillaI'm using a persistent Live USB of ubuntu 12.10. If I go ahead and install it to my HD, will it keep those settings that I've already made, or will it just be a fresh install?14:30
PiciMadEchidna: That output says that you installed it from somewhere other than the default repos.  It looks like you disabled whatever source you installed it from.14:30
MadEchidnaPici, okay so how do I go back to the default kernel?14:31
Siebjeejrib, that didn't work for me. I used Ƽ* - nofile 65535' and '<username> - nofile 65535' both are not working14:31
MadEchidnawhen I look at the 3.7 package in synaptic it even says "Ubuntu Kernel Team", I don't get where this would have just "come from"14:31
ikoniaMadEchidna: didn't you say you had the edgers repo14:31
ikoniaxorg-edger ?14:32
MadEchidnaI did, and then I ran a ppa-purge14:32
ikoniaright, so that's why the kernel is still there14:32
MadEchidnaI thought that ppa-purge took care of that14:32
MadEchidnaso do I just uninstall the package?14:32
jribSiebjee: let me try here14:32
ikoniahow can it, the kernel is runing and inuse14:32
PiciMadEchidna: The safest way is to reboot to an older kernel and then remove that package.14:32
MadEchidnaoh14:32
MadEchidnaokay brb14:32
Kartagiswhat package does it take to install KDE? kdebase-bin?14:34
jribSiebjee: actually my /etc/pam.d/sshd seems to already contain pam_limits by default14:34
ikoniaKartagis: isn't that the package ?14:35
Siebjeejrib: so does mine, but why isn't it working ?14:35
xDesuKartagis, if you just install kde that should automatically try to satisfy depndencies.14:35
RickZillaI'm using a persistent Live USB of ubuntu 12.10. If I go ahead and install it to my HD, will it keep those settings that I've already made, or will it just be a fresh install?14:36
takitezKartagis: you want the full set? install kubuntu-desktop   or kde-plasma-desktop for basic kde14:36
Netfeedis it possible to "upgrade sideways" from linux mint to ubuntu?14:37
ActionParsnipRickZilla: fresh14:37
ActionParsnipNetfeed: you'll need a reinstall14:37
Netfeedbummer14:37
RickZillaActionParsnip: Thanks, is there a way to install otherwise?14:37
jribSiebjee: works fine for me, all I did was add "*               -    nofile            65535" to my /etc/security/limits.conf and then "ssh localhost".  Maybe pastebin your /etc/security/limits.conf?  I didn't even touch anything in /etc/pam.d/14:37
ActionParsnipRickZilla: you could copy the contents of $HOME to an external storage and copy the data over once you get logged in14:37
DJonesNetfeed: Only by a fresh install, I'd backup /home and do a fresh install and then transfer the backup to the new install14:38
RickZillaActionParsnip: I'll look into that. Thanks for the support14:38
Netfeedalright, i hoped it was possible as they use the same base, ah well, i've got something to do this weekend then14:38
dsahello14:38
Siebjeejrib: http://pastebin.com/NBPskses there is my limits.conf14:39
RickZillaNetfeed: I'm going back to ubuntu from LM also14:39
jribSiebjee: seems fine.  Are both changes being ignored?14:39
SiebjeeYes14:39
NetfeedRickZilla: same "problem"? :)14:40
jribSiebjee: you're sure there's nothing in your user's startup scripts changing the ulimit?14:40
RickZillaNetfeed: LM just acts too much like Windows, and I already have that...when I need Linux, I like the ubuntu experience a little more14:41
Siebjeejrib: only for the root user the ulimit is beeing changed as a temporary fix. But not for any other user. Only to check if they are correct or not and printing a message when they are not correct14:41
jribSiebjee: what ubuntu version?14:41
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NetfeedRickZilla: ah, i don't use cinnamon14:42
Siebjeejrib: well its debian squeeze, but its similar to 12.04 and 11.1014:42
Siebjeejrib: and the debian community aint responding to my request14:42
RickZillaNetfeed: What problems were you having with LM?14:42
ActionParsnipSiebjee: debian isn't supported here14:43
jribSiebjee: here's my paste since I already put it up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399660/ but you should ask #debian (use the oftc channel) since there may be some differences14:43
NetfeedRickZilla: i guess i will have the same problem in ubuntu, but team fortress 2 crashes :)14:43
MadEchidnaOkay, I uninstalled the new kernel, and reinstalled fglrx and x11-core or whatever14:43
SiebjeeActionParsnip: i know, but please work with me. I can work with ubuntu fixes and convert them to debian14:43
MadEchidnaand I think everything is working okay now, I have direct rendering and Unity runs14:43
MadEchidnait feels little slower than before but I could just be imagining things14:44
Touhou11Siebjee: Agreed, Ubuntu basically is a specific configuration of Debian after all14:44
MadEchidnathanks for your help ikonia and Pici14:44
RickZillaDoes Amazon have some kind of deal with ubuntu? I noticed there was a sidebar button just for Amazon on the fresh ubuntu install14:44
NvveenHey all. I reinstalled Ubuntu Quantal today, but I'm having an issue with executing scripts and executables locally. I have a bash script build.sh that I can only execute with "bash build.sh" instead of "./build.sh". I have all permissions set correctly and its executable bit has been also set14:44
NvveenIn Precise, I didn't have anything like this issue14:44
ActionParsnipRickZilla: you can disable that if you want14:44
xDesuRickZilla I believe they do, but you can disable it.14:45
Touhou11RickZilla: Canonical (who make Ubuntu) get money if you click and then buy through Amazon. Amazon don't "have a deal" as such, anyone can do Amazon referral links14:45
ActionParsnipNvveen: is the file executable?14:45
RickZillaGot it14:45
MadEchidnaRickZilla, if you don't like the Amazon search results in Unity, you can disable it in the Privacy settings pane14:46
ActionParsnipNvveen: what is the ls -la ./build.sh     output (the .sh extension isn't needed in linux)14:46
Touhou11RickZilla: There's bug reports to get similar Amazon enhancing features when searching in the terminal14:46
NvveenActionParsnip, yes, all permissions have been set14:46
MadEchidnajust hit the ubuntu logo and type Privacy14:46
RickZillaI was thinking that if I wanted Amazon advertising I'd just get a Kindle Fire14:46
MadEchidnaanyway thanks for the help guys I've got work to do now14:46
spm-DragetThe 32bit Version of Ubuntu 12.04 is recommended. Any rough guess how much more instability I should expect with ubuntu 12.04 64bit? Like, is this just 'a bit less well tested' or should I relly expect occasional problems?14:46
NvveenActionParsnip, about the extension: It's so I myself know it's a bash script14:46
southernhey guys14:46
ActionParsnipspm-Draget: its not about stability14:46
Siebjeejrib: your settings are the same as mine, it is kind of strange why it doesn't work.14:46
RickZillaBut, I don't mind supporting Canonical, so that wouldn't be a bad idea when I need to get something from Amazon anyway14:47
jribSiebjee: we're using different OS14:47
xDesuNvveen you can also state in the script what you wish yo run it with (e.x. #!/usr/bin/env bash)14:47
southernI have an ubuntu server 10.04 and host lookup ignores the /etc/hosts file content14:47
ActionParsnipNvveen: is the top line in the file:   #!/bin/bash     ?14:47
Nvveen-rwxr-xr-x 1 neal neal 179 Nov 29 01:19 build.sh14:47
southernthe nsswitch.conf file seems to OK14:48
KI4ROMy wife's system is still at 12.04.  Do I have to wake up something in the update manager to get her to 12.10 or will it eventually figure it out and take care of it itself?14:48
southernhosts:          files dns14:48
NvveenActionParsnip, yes. It's also not limited to just the bash script. The executable that is made in that build script (c++ compilation) isn't executable either14:48
spm-DragetActionParsnip: I am aware of some propetarian drivers and 64bit issues etc. But as for stability, I should expect about the same experience as in 32bit? Okay, thanks.14:49
zykotick9KI4RO: by default LTS releases only update to other LTS releases, there is some way to change that... but i don't know it.14:49
KI4ROzykes-: Thanks for the info14:49
Touhou11RickZilla: Just need to be aware that anything you search for on your local computer gets sent to Amazon... hence the privacy concerns14:49
ActionParsnipspm-Draget: yes both are equally stable. proprietary drivers are also 64bit14:49
KI4ROzykotick9: Thanks14:49
Siebjeejrib: gonna try if i can reproduce it on 12.04.114:49
ActionParsnipNvveen: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc14:49
media-centre a different problem14:50
xDesuKI4RO http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-to-ubuntu-12-1014:50
KI4ROxDesu: Thanks14:50
NvveenActionParsnip, quantal14:50
RickZillaTouhoull: Is nothing sacred anymore? I thought that was the point of FOSS14:50
media-centre1394 firewire card14:50
media-centresame problem dosent come up14:50
southernPLS help14:50
Touhou11RickZilla: A lot of us agree, it's reduced Ubuntu to basically adware software. Can always use Linux Mint14:50
Siebjeejrib: same problem on 12.04.114:51
jribSiebjee: i'm on 12.10, but I can test on 12.04.  One sec14:51
zykotick9Touhou11: RickZilla and anything you type into Unity gets sent to canonical - who then shares it with facebooka and twitter :|14:51
xDesuKI4R14:51
RickZillazykotick9: Even if I don't have an account there?14:51
Siebjeejrib: the pam settings are okay, and i added the '*       -       nofile  65335' line to the limits.conf14:52
zykotick9RickZilla: you have an account with canonical... if you use unity ;)14:52
RickZillatrue14:52
media-centreso can any of you help with that instead14:52
RickZillaI do like the ubuntu layout, so I can't argue with that14:52
jribSiebjee: did not seem to work on 12.04 :)14:53
media-centreso can any of you help with that14:53
jribSiebjee: erm, one sec I made a typo14:53
jribSiebjee: works now :/14:54
opiengDoes Ubuntu work ok the Raspberry Pi?14:54
b0otAnyone know of an easy to setup cluster based instant messenging server on a private network (no internet access). I want essentially there to be one global set of users for N number of servers. I want the system to be able to work no matter what servers are online or even if the servers were seperated into two LANS each LAN would still work (obviously couldn't talk across the LANS if they werent connected but they could still provide services within thei14:54
b0otr own LAN)14:54
southernWhy my /etc/hosts file is not working on my Ubuntu 10.04?14:54
jribsouthern: be more specific14:54
Touhou11southern: One second, just putting on my magic hat14:54
media-centrenone of you can help with my firewire problem14:54
media-centreinstead of thhat webcam problem14:55
Touhou11media-centre: Never used firewire, isn't that only used on macs?14:55
media-centreno14:55
media-centrejust more popular14:55
Siebjeejrib: strange... it couldn't be the sudo access for multiple users right ?14:55
jribSiebjee: on your 12.04, does everything look the same: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399800/14:55
southernissuing 'host dummydomain' command returns with Host dummydomain not found: 3 (NXDOMAIN)14:56
edgyHi, I installed ubuntu and can't make my webcam work, I don't even have a /dev/video0 device14:56
southernin /etc/hosts file there is 127.0.0.1 dummydomain record14:57
southernin nsswitch.conf file there is hosts:          files dns line14:57
southernI can't figure out the situation...14:58
jribSiebjee: I don't see how sudo would be related14:58
southernthe system is ubuntu server 10.0414:58
NvveenOh for god's sake, now Nautilus keeps crashing when I open my Home-folder14:58
RickZillabesides, I can only imagine what info that M$ is keeping14:59
Siebjeejrib: you're output is kind of odd, and so it your grep statement14:59
jribsouthern: maybe host is behaving correctly?  Can you check what its documentation says it does?14:59
jribSiebjee: in what way?14:59
edgysouthern: what's your problem?14:59
dsahaving a problem with transmission daemon seems settings aren't making it stop seeding when it hits certain ratio http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399809/15:00
jribSiebjee: note the "/etc/pamd.d" is part of my prompt in case that's confusing15:00
Siebjeejrib: anyway, the pam.d/sshd contains the require for limits.so, and the limits.conf contains the nofile statement for every user (*)15:00
southernactually I'm expecting to get resolve dummydomain with host command15:00
Siebjeejrib: 'grep limits *                                        /etc/pam.d' this not work15:00
edgysouthern: hos utility would check dns records not your local /etc/hosts15:00
jribSiebjee: right, I'm in the /etc/pam.d/ directory and execute "grep limits *"15:01
southernwhat is the proper command to check if /etc/hosts is working?15:01
Siebjeejrib: then it looks the same :)15:01
mithranwhat is the command used for fixing15:01
jribSiebjee: ok, well weird.  And you're just logging in with ssh?15:01
Siebjeejrib: correction, almost the same15:02
edgysouthern: try ping15:02
jribSiebjee: I'm sure you are, but just to be sure, you are logging in again after making the changes, correct?15:02
Siebjeejrib: i haev a match in atd, which you dont have15:02
mithranhelp me .......what is the command used for fixing15:02
belgianguyhmm I'm on 4GB of RAM and am experiencing frequent hangups with a browser open (Firefox), an IDE open (IntelliJ) and an emulator (Android)15:02
southernedgy: it works!15:02
jribSiebjee: it's probably just not installed, it's a pretty bare install15:02
takitezmithran: fixing what?15:02
southernedgy: thank you15:02
belgianguyI did see I'm not using swap15:02
edgysouthern: welcome15:02
belgianguywould that matter much?15:02
belgianguyand I'm on 12.10 64bit15:03
Siebjeejrib: could explain it, but i wanted to be specific. Just to prevent any confusions15:03
jribSiebjee: yep15:03
mithrantakitez: to fix partial updates15:03
regfjust for the record: my desktop computer won't resume from hibernation, as one of my hard disks died... swap/resume partition being on mirror md device apparently doesn't help much15:03
jribSiebjee: let's compare /etc/ssh/sshd_config I guess, can you pastebin yours?15:04
mithrantakitez: to fix partial updates15:04
Oren_Bochmanrebooting see you on the other side15:04
RickZillaMaybe the wrong channel for this, but is the ubuntu one worth checking out? 5G free storage seems pretty generous15:04
Siebjeejrib: i also recently installed puppet to manage all the servers we have. And that one is also managing the sshd.conf15:04
willhanybody a FOG expert out there?15:05
Touhou11The weather?15:05
mithrantakitez: to fix partial updates am using ubuntu ultimate 12.0415:05
willhI have just a couple machines that the hostname can't be resolved, and they will not image properly.15:05
takitezwillh: visibilty < 1000m   scnr ;)15:05
mithranultimate edition 12.0415:06
willhtakitez:  ?15:06
BelseruskHi guys. How can I make this exit the terminal? How should I add "& exit"          alias bb='sudo bleachbit'15:06
edgyI installed ubuntu and can't make my webcam work, I don't even have a /dev/video0 device15:06
jribSiebjee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399830/ should be default.  I assume the commented "#UsePAM yes" indicates that's the default setting.  But you might try uncommenting it in your setup to ensure pam is getting used15:06
mithranplease help me.....................takitez: to fix partial updates am using ubuntu ultimate 12.0415:07
Siebjeejrib: 'UsePAM no' is stated in the config15:07
jribSiebjee: actually, sshd_config man page says the default is no.  But maybe ubuntu changed it to yes.  You might try toggling it just to troubleshoot and see if it makes a difference15:07
Siebjeejrib: so i guess thats the smoking gun ?15:07
ActionParsnipedgy: have you tried it in cheese?15:08
Siebjeejrib: if i change 'UsePAM' to yes then it works indeed15:08
mithranwhat is the command used for fixing partial updates15:09
jribSiebjee: cool15:09
Siebjeejrib: FYI, thats also the debian fix ;)15:09
gustav__When will nvidia-current 310.19 be released?15:09
k1lmithran: ultimate edition isnt an official ubuntu. and while their page seems to have problems it may be causes by their ppa or other sources. so please ask the ultimate support15:09
mithrank1l: thanks lol.... where can i find their help is there any forum like this15:11
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Touhou11Ultimate Edition has a supremely ugly website15:11
zykotick9mithran: fyi, NEVER to partital updates - it translates to "this will break your system"15:11
DareDevilshola a todos, como puedo mantener ubuntu actualizado pero con una pariencia version 10.10?15:11
edgyActionParsnip: yes, nothing in cheese came out15:12
mortezahelp15:12
k1lmithran: since their homepage seems down try this http://forumubuntusoftware.info/15:12
mithranzykotick9: ok thank you15:12
mithrank1l: ok i am going there thanks for you all15:13
MonkeyDust!es |  daredevils15:14
ubottudaredevils: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:14
fishcookerhow to enable bluetooth .. i've tried on ubuntu help about bluetooth15:14
fishcookerbut not work15:14
fishcookereven not detected15:14
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MonkeyDustfishcooker, try blueman (bluetooth manager)15:15
fishcookerim on 10.0415:15
TandyUKhi guys, help with udev please.. i have 2 tv cards which get /dev/dvb/adapterX/ mappings created at boot, but they keep swithcing15:16
TandyUKwhats the simplest way to add a udev rule to assign the same physical card the same /dev/dvb/... address each time?15:16
Oren_Bochmani've had some problem with the window installer15:19
Oren_Bochmanwubildr.mbr  not found ..15:20
yilmazhi, I was playing with language settings in 12.04. Language of the gnome GUI has changed now although I had changed the default values back. How can I revert this change?15:20
yilmazappears like /etc/default/locale does not affect much15:20
xyzonejust change it back15:21
yilmazxyzone, I think I changed it back15:21
yilmazdid not seem to work15:21
xyzonelog in and back out15:21
xyzonei mean the other way15:22
yilmaz/etc/default/locale has changed to default values. but even a restart does not change the system language15:22
xyzonerevert the language settings15:22
yilmazdoes gnome have locale settings womewhere else?15:22
jribyilmaz: you choose your locale at the login screen15:22
yilmazjrib, could not find that setting there15:23
jribyilmaz: are you using lightdm?15:23
yilmazjrib, let me do a dpkg-reconfig15:23
empthi guys15:24
darrenloobyHi Guys, I'm using uShare - and trying to find a way of seeing if someone is currently streaming15:24
darrenloobyHow would I go about doing that?15:24
batordont understand15:25
yilmazjrib, yes lightdm is installed gdm not installed15:26
jribyilmaz: well, the option for language selection should be exposed at the login screen15:26
simplewhow can i downgrade to a previous kernel version?15:26
yilmazjrib can I simpl install gdm:15:26
Alice_linuxHow can I clone my entire ubuntu partition?15:26
yilmazI hate this keyboard, sorry15:27
jribyilmaz: if you want to.  I don't see how it will help15:27
empti am using ubuntu 12.10 and unity as my desktop. recently i intalled the nvidia driver using the package nvidia-current-updates but after that, when i move my mouse to the left side of the screen the launcher bar won't show up, what should i do??15:27
yilmazjrib, I assumed lang selection is possible in gdm and not in lightdm15:27
jribyilmaz: it's possible in both15:28
yilmazI would say this is a papercut unless I am totally missing where to change lang settings15:28
blujsudo apt-get update -> "W: Failed to fetch http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/lucid-updates/Release Unable to find expected entry" help?15:28
sandjkirklandI am having problems with my computer freezing when I use the internet.15:29
yilmazI thought it would be meaningful to change lang setting in system settings/lang settings15:29
yilmazappears like not doing intended changes15:29
sandjkirklandcan someone help or direct me to the proper channel15:30
jribyilmaz: actually I just checked and no longer see language selection in lightdm either :/15:30
yilmazsandjkirkland, sounds like network card problem15:30
jribyilmaz: check what's in your ~/.dmrc15:30
yilmazchecking...15:30
yilmazjrib, that's a 1 byte file appears to be empty15:31
sandjkirklandyilaz: its randomly freezing. When it freezes the screen goes white and nothing works. it doesn't matter how i connect via wifi or direct15:31
DreamKillerdoes anyone have expierence in running a ubuntu file server in a VM?15:31
edgyActionParsnip: I see some others have the same problem, it used to work but stopped lately, I even see a comment by you on one of those threads15:31
yilmazjrib, also the dm language is also not the default one15:31
jribyilmaz: can you describe exactly what you did?15:32
jribyilmaz: (before when you changed the language)15:32
bkfitzAnyone know what it means when I have a whole block of "@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^...." in my syslog15:32
yilmazjrib, went to language settings in system settings15:32
jribyilmaz: and then?15:33
jribyilmaz: you mean "language support"?15:33
yilmazjrib, default lang was english. Was trying to find a way to change localization settings without changing the language15:33
jribyilmaz: so what did you change exactly?15:34
yilmazjrib moved Turkish up to first position in list and then moved back15:34
yilmazwithout closing the window15:34
opiengDoes Ubuntu work ok the Raspberry Pi?15:34
yilmazthen rebooted and Turkish is everywhere now15:34
yilmaz:)15:34
IdleOneopieng: #ubuntu-arm can help with that15:34
opiengbrill thanks IdleOne15:34
jribyilmaz: heh.  Can you pastebin the output of « env » and « locale »?15:35
DreamKilleris there a special channel for creating virtual machines?15:35
teresa_@@@@15:35
jribyilmaz: also it will probably be useful to create a new user and see if he is in turkish as well.  This way we can see if it's a system-wide setting or not.  I don't actually know how a user is meant to change his language now since it seems to have been removed from login15:35
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invisibleheeroHey guys, I was switching around desktops to see which one I like the most. As of now I enjoy gnome-shell but dislike the fact that it display EVERYTHING in the activities, so I switched to gnome-classic. Now, when I switched back to gnome-shell my key bindings are all messed up including my Desktop background settings. OTHER than a Fresh install is there a way of resetting all settings back to default and purging all the15:38
invisibleheeroother Desktops?15:38
jribyilmaz: while you're pastebinning, include: /etc/default/locale, /etc/environment and ~/.pam_environment15:38
subterfuge1750Looking for a second opinion -- I am doing some work for a law firm -- the goal is to search a bunch of old computers for porn (both downloaded and homemade) -- Access:  I or other staff members have copied entire HDDs to one external HDD.  Each box is in its own directory.  -- Script I have come up with to find all audio, video, or image files is this    "    find /replace/with/path/to/dir -iregex '.*\(mpeg\|mpg\|mp15:43
jribsubterfuge1750: but then you're using extensions only...15:44
gharzhi guys... has anyone successfully install ubuntu alongside with windowz 8? i miss my ubuntu15:44
jribsubterfuge1750: and your message was truncated in the middle of your "iregex"15:45
ActionParsnipsubterfuge1750: use foremost on the unmounted drives, see what comes out :)15:46
KaiForceI built two new LTS servers to run bind on and I need help to migrate bind from the old servers.  Can anyone suggest an appropriate channel for help with that?15:46
subterfuge1750jrib: I will past bin if you have time to look at it, I just had someone walk in the door BRB on that in a second15:46
jribsubterfuge1750: I have to step away for a bit too, but you can pastebin and others can help or I can when I return later15:47
gacKaiForce: BIND config formats haven't really changed in years, you can probably just copy the files over to the same location on your new box...15:47
subterfuge1750ActionParsnip: sorry I don't know what that ment (it was mildly over my head) I will have to google... Can you frame what that does for me?15:47
KaiForcegac:  that's what I thought but these servers are authoritative for a bunch of domains so I don't want to screw it up!15:48
ActionParsnipsubterfuge1750: it recovers deleted files as wellas the standing data15:48
KaiForceplus the slave server is going to have a name change.15:48
gacKaiForce: copy the configs over and start BIND, you can then query against it manually without it being used by Internet resolvers. will be a reasonable test that way15:49
KaiForcegac:  ok will do, thanks for your suggestion.15:49
krzhi15:49
gacKaiForce: once you're confident it's resolving everything it needs to for you manually, you should be able to switch the authoritative nameservers over at your registrar :)15:49
krzim thinking of buying a gaming laptop with a 240gb ssd and a msata ssd 40gb. will the msata ssd play well?15:50
gackrz: in what context? you mean "will it work with Ubuntu"?15:51
krzyea, because i will have to ssd's15:51
krzthinking of dual-booting. win and ubuntu into the msata drive15:51
krzand any other storage into the ssd15:52
gacUbuntu won't care how many SSDs you have, it'll work the same as any other multi-drive system15:52
subterfuge1750ActionParsnip: I am looking at the foremost man page now.  Looks like I would (as you stated) have to have access to the physical drives.  This would only be possible now on a few of the many.15:52
jason6247hi.. sorry guy, i need to ask for help about seq command to generate increment numbers, i know the command, but what bugs me is i cannot generete numbers beyond 8 digits15:52
jason6247when i do this ; seq -f "%010g" 555555 55555715:53
Oren_Bochmanhi got problems installing under windows 815:53
jason6247it give me this, which is what i want 0000555555 0000555556 000055555715:53
jason6247when i do this seq -f "%010g" 5555555 555555715:53
subterfuge1750jrib:   &  ActionParsnip:    & all others   : Looking for a second opinion -- I am doing some work for a law firm -- the goal is to search a bunch of old computers for porn (both downloaded and homemade) -- Access:  I or other staff members have copied entire HDDs to one external HDD.  Each box is in its own directory.  -- Script I have come up with to find all audio, video, or image files is this   http://pastebin.c15:53
jason6247it give me this,5.55556e+06 5.55556e+06 5.55556e+0615:53
Oren_Bochman\ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr   ... status 0xc000007b15:54
gharzguys, i just received a laptop with pre-installed windowz 8 ... has anyone succesfully installed ubuntu on a win8 machine? i tried but just wasted my time. :( anyone?15:54
jason6247which is not what i want, i want is 000555555515:54
Oren_Bochmanversion is 12.1015:54
gharzOren_Bochman: same here... problem installing ubuntu in windowz 815:55
MonkeyDustOren_Bochman, wubi?15:55
Oren_Bochmanyep15:55
jason6247dot use wubi15:55
jason6247create a new partition and install ur buntu15:55
Oren_Bochmannot sure if I can15:56
jason6247@ Oren boch15:58
jason6247u create 2 partition in ur laptop15:58
jason62471 partition is for urbuntu, 1 partiton around 4gb for ur swap partiton15:59
Troy^what is the best way to listen to my music collection in ubuntu from my samba share seems none of my music players likes adding a cifs samba share for its library?15:59
gharzjason6247: i've a laptop with pre-installed win8 and when i checked disk management... it has already 4 primary partitions.15:59
bhaveshI want to start minimized empathy (or log in to empathy) every time I boot, if I add empathy command to startup applications, it opens maximized empathy, what should I do?15:59
jason6247then u dont use GRUB to for dual-boot, u download easybcd to edit the windows boot manager to actually do the dual boot15:59
gacbhavesh: "empathy -h" should do that16:00
bhaveshgac: thanks a lot :D16:00
jason6247then u need to fix/relocate the partition,16:00
jason6247forget about DIsk Management partition in windows, its sucks, u use this tools16:00
bloouuphey, just a quick question, on unity-greeter, is there anyway to just get rid of the session change button?16:01
jason6247u download easus partition manager16:01
jason6247free 1 http://www.partition-tool.com/16:02
jason6247works great and let u resize ur disk partition with ease, then u just instal ubuntu in ur laptop as usuall, just skip the GRUB part, never install grub to replace windows boot manager, use easybcd to set windows boot manager to do the dual boot16:03
jason6247if u instal GRUB, you are xuck already, because it will mess up windows16:03
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MonkeyDustjason6247, don't say u and ur, please, the may not be a native speaker16:04
MonkeyDustthe guy*16:04
jason6247short form, too long for me to type you and tour16:04
jason6247your16:04
RickZillagharz: At least one of those is for system restore...which you don't need if you hung on to or created your win8 backup disk16:05
NvveenOkay, I'm having some MAJOR problems with 12.10. I installed it after the upgrade messed up my installation of 12.04, but now the Nvidia driver won't work at all, while I don't even get a popup asking me to install any additional drivers. I had absolutely no problems with 12.04, is this common for 12.10?16:05
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Oren_Bochmanjason6247: do I need to format the patitions ?16:06
bhaveshI was just installing google chrome from the .deb available at chrome.google.com and ubuntu says that the package is of bad quality and may cause serious problems if I install it16:06
RickZillabhavesh: 12.10? Same thing happened to me last night. I went ahead and installed anyway, seems to work fine16:06
Oren_Bochmanjason6247: also how do I install without wubi ?16:06
jribsubterfuge1750: your message was truncated again... you should use a bettter client :)16:06
bhaveshNvveen: the additional drivers popup is removed I think, you can install nvidia drivers from settings > additional sources16:07
bhaveshRickZilla: I just did that :)16:07
Nvveenbhavesh, Why did they remove it?16:07
jason6247No need, just leave the windows partition alone, but when you bootup ubuntu with live cd, make sure you remember which partition you select when you install ubuuntu16:07
subterfuge1750jrib:  roger will add it to the list  --- here is the link http://pastebin.com/Dg2dt6ZQ16:08
Oren_Bochmanso ineed to burn an instalation image to a dvd  and boot from it ?16:08
wangzhwhat?16:08
bhaveshNvveen: no idea. But installing  nvidia proprietary drivers, may break unity, so if it does use this: http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=install%20nvidia%20drivers%20in%20ubuntu%2012.10&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CEQQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechhamlet.com%2F2012%2F11%2Finstall-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10%2F&ei=Ddq4UOH3IMbqrAf_v4HoCQ&usg=AFQjCNEPBgX4cmdJa8mMapZuggcn-3svGg16:08
jason6247if you know how to make bootable usb, then no need burn cd16:08
jribsubterfuge1750: one problem you'll have is that if you have file a/c and file b/c matching, then you can't symlink to both like that16:09
wangzhyes16:09
Oren_Bochmanhow big would the usb need to be ?16:09
subterfuge1750jrib:   what do you mean by a/c and  b/c16:09
jribsubterfuge1750: by "a/c" I mean a file named "c" in a directory named "a"16:10
bloouuphey, just a quick question, on unity-greeter, is there anyway to just get rid of the session change button?16:10
usr13Oren_Bochman: 1G is enough16:10
ActionParsnipbhavesh: one of the reasons I don't use google16:10
eniltalFHas anyonr figured out how to ger the menu and notification area transparent in Gnome Classic?16:10
usr13Oren_Bochman: (For the CD image.)16:11
jason6247i advise you install ubuntu with all /home /usr  and 2 other directories in the same partition, when you reach the step in configuring your partition, just select  " ./ " to put all the home usr boot folder in one partition,16:11
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jason6247make it nicer :)16:11
jason6247then you need 1 more partition for swap,16:11
subterfuge1750jrib:   or so if I have two separate and different files on two drives both named image001.jpg   then it wont work?16:11
ActionParsnipjason6247: separate /home, / and swap is my preference16:11
jason6247around 2 gb or 4 gh will do16:11
bloouupOkay, does anyone know anything about unity-greeter?16:11
jribsubterfuge1750: right, you're trying to create symlinks back to the files right?16:11
eniltalFI always have seperate partitions for / and home...seperate drive for /swap16:11
subterfuge1750jrib:  yes16:12
jason6247up to you, which ever you like16:12
usr13ActionParsnip: I agree.  (If you have separate /home/ partition, you have future option to do fresh install while leaving your personal files alone, (still there).16:12
jribsubterfuge1750: if it's sufficient I would just save the list that find spits back16:12
jason6247if you doing dual boot buntu/win then there will be alot of partition on your laptop16:13
ActionParsnipusr13: true, makes backups easier too16:13
bloouupI just want to get rid of the session menu on the greeter. Is this possible?16:13
* MonkeyDust has separate /home, too16:14
eniltalF*Ack*...don't dual boot.16:14
eniltalFif you NEED window$, run it as a VM.16:14
usr13Having separate /home/ is good for experimental puposes as well.16:14
jribsubterfuge1750: also, I think that if I were in your shoes I'd also do a search for files bigger than a certain size as that will likely catch all videos, and depending on how thorought I wanted to be, I'd use "file" to check the filetype instead of relying on the file extension.  Finally, I'd check for archives too (like .zip, etc.).  I'd be surprised if there isn't some tool that does this already (searches16:14
jribfor all media files)16:14
eniltalFWindows 7 runs more efficently in VirtualBox on my computer than it does as dual boot.16:14
subterfuge1750jrib:  The plan of action is to have a link to every file from every HDD in one location, then have a firm staff member go through them and look at each one to see if it has value to the case ----  can I add a IF file name is already in dir THEN add sequential number to it16:14
RickZillaeniltalF Sometimes we need Win as a dual boot, especially if it's a family computer16:15
MajiHello, i'm currently stuck in a tty because when i boot up ubuntu the screen loses signal and when it powers back up it says ubuntu is using low graphics... what do i do?16:15
jason6247canot, if your laptop still under warranty, if spoilt you send for repair, they will consider your warranty void16:15
eniltalFRickZilla: yea, that is true.16:16
subterfuge1750jrib: if there is a tool then my googlefu failed me bad16:16
usr13Maji: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak16:16
Majisudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak16:16
Majilol16:16
Majiderp, i'll brb16:16
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jribsubterfuge1750: I guess you could do that.  You could also just consider using something like rsync to copy (or just hardlink, I think that's possible) to files of a certain type.  Then you'd retain the directory structure.  If that makes it harder to navigate, then I'd just create a list with find of all the images, then they can open an image viewer on that list. And do a similar thing for videos16:17
Majiusr13, i've got no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file16:17
subterfuge1750jrib what there is a ton of tools for, of which i can't seem to sort through an pick a good one, is a tool/program/script that will take old MSOutlook .dbx files and make them human readable16:17
jribsubterfuge1750: don't know about that :)16:17
subterfuge1750jrib: Thanks for your help16:18
usr13Maji: Ok, that rules that one out.16:18
jribsubterfuge1750: no problem16:19
usr13Maji: Take a look at the log file.16:19
usr13Maji: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log16:19
djQuery_when I hookup my cell phone it adds  network driver, is there a way to disable this?16:19
atthi! I made a clean install with 12.10, everything seems fine, but I've got the "JavaScript bug"; I had Oracle-Java 8 now16:20
usr13Maji: Usually, you'll find the problem in the last 20 or 25 lines, so read backward, see if you see someting interesting.16:20
attwhen I try to load webpages like facebook or askubuntu, etc. the page seems horrbile16:20
usr13Maji: You can share the file with us:  pastebilnit /var/log/Xorg.0.log   #And send resulting URL.16:21
attwith Firefox and Chroimum too16:21
usr13Maji: ..... here  .....16:21
ActionParsnipatt: if you make a new user, is it the same?16:21
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attActionParsnip: try, wait a sec16:21
sabelI have a quick question can anyone help me?16:21
usr13sabel: ask it.16:21
nydelsabel: we can & will try, ask away16:22
Majiusr13: i'll be right back after rebooting16:22
Alefechehola16:23
attActionParsnip: yes, with other user too16:23
sabelI'm currently in the process of installing ubuntu. It was a huge hassle last night to get windows to actually let me shrink its partition enough to where i was comfertable. I have 150gb of free space on which i would like to install Ubuntu. In the installer i select the "other" option rather than install over windows or side by side so that i can manually select this 150GB of free space. I check the free space option and click install n16:23
Alefechehello??16:23
sabel"no root file system is defined please correct this from the partitioning menu" how does one..correct this?16:23
RickZillaAlefeche: Just ask a question if you have one16:24
RickZillaAnd be patient16:24
usr13sabel: It's asking you to create the partition(s)16:24
ActionParsnipatt: is it a known bug16:24
Alefechewhat kind of question?16:24
MonkeyDustsabel, if you choose 'other', you need to define a /home and a /root partition16:24
sandjkirklandjoin #networking16:24
rymate1234Alefeche, a question related to your Ubuntu issue16:24
RickZillaAlefeche: You said hello. This is an IRC channel for discussing topics related to Ubuntu16:25
sabelWell if i select the "install side by side" option will ubuntu install itself on the free space?16:25
stroodlepupany config tool for odbc?16:25
zykotick9sabel: that's root meaning /, not /root16:25
usr13sabel: So, select the free space and create partitions of your choosing.  (I recommend swap 8G, / 20G, and the rest for /home/ )16:25
attActionParsnip: but what should I do now? I read about MTU changing, but nothing changed16:25
MonkeyDustzykotick9, thanks, i misstyped16:25
Alefecheoh, sorry16:25
zykotick9MonkeyDust: :)16:26
sabeli guess im confused still. divde the 150gb into 8g, 20g, and the rest for /home/ ?16:26
stroodlepupany config tool for odbc?16:26
usr13sabel: By "/ 20G"   I mean the /root/ partition wich contains all your operating system and applications.16:26
stroodlepupgui16:26
Slartphix> you can get a skype plugin for asterisk if you really need skype support16:26
ActionParsnipatt: all I can suggest is subscribe to the bug16:26
HelloWorld321Whats the Ubuntu equivalent of DiffMerge (a diff GUI on Mac)16:26
Slartoops, sorry16:27
usr13sabel: 8G for swap  partition.     20G for /  (root partition).   The rest for the /home/ (home partition).16:27
attActionParsnip: uh..I don't belive it...I mean I know it's not your's fault16:27
majiusr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399981/ here's the link. also, perhaps you know how to copy something in a tty? i had to type that out manually lol16:27
ActionParsnip!info meld16:27
ubottumeld (source: meld): graphical tool to diff and merge files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.0-1 (quantal), package size 413 kB, installed size 2023 kB16:27
stroodlepuphi?16:27
ActionParsnip!info gvimdiff16:27
ubottuPackage gvimdiff does not exist in quantal16:27
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attActionParsnip: thanks for helping16:28
HelloWorld321tx ActionParsnip16:28
ActionParsnipHelloWorld321: all I did was search the web16:28
ActionParsnipHelloWorld321: I don't use diff...16:28
sabelI see /boot and /home as "mount point" options for the new partition but not swap16:28
ActionParsnipsabel: swap doesn't have a mount point16:29
ActionParsnipsabel: just set the file system to swap and it's handled16:29
ActionParsnipHelloWorld321: http://www.bing.com/search?q=diff+gui+ubuntu&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=diff+gui+ubuntu&sc=0-0&sp=-1&sk=     is all I did16:29
ActionParsnipHelloWorld321: nothing too complicated....16:30
zykotick9sabel: unless you are using raid or some encyrption-thing, i doubt you need a separate /boot16:30
usr13sabel: I agree with zykotick9.  You only need 3.  /home/, swap, and  /16:31
usr13maji: What is your hardware?  What kind of computer is it?16:32
ActionParsnipusr13: if you have an SSD and a platter based storage, putting /var on the platter is good16:32
sabel...alright...so i now have a swap partition of 8 gigs...a home partition of 132g and a boot partition of 20gb..i click install now and i still get the "no /root file system is defined16:32
usr13ActionParsnip: Noted....16:32
zykotick9sabel: you need a / directory.  / is NOT /boot.16:33
ActionParsnipusr13: its all logs files and temp deb files, these are writes to the drive where speed isn't hugely needed :)16:33
MonkeyDustsabel, you need to check 'format to ext4'16:33
usr13sabel: You said boot partition of 20G,  (Did you mean to say  root partition?)16:33
majiusr13: desktop, regarding the grapics its a Radeon HD5850. funny thing is: ubuntu ran perfectly before, boot it up today and then this shows up16:33
MonkeyDustsabel, that's just a slash, it means root16:33
usr13maji: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade   #See what that does.16:34
istevenmonhello guys i have a server which i would like to replay installation, configuration, etc to 50 other servers, is there a way to create an ISO of how the system looks like right now and apply to the other servers?16:34
sabeli have them all checked except for swap that i cant check to format to ext416:34
sabeland no i ment 20g for boot..i thought you mentioned that.16:34
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usr13sabel: swap does not get formatted to ext4 filesystem,  It does not get formatted at all.  So leave that one, (un-formatted).16:35
usr13sabel: Change boot  to /   (root)16:35
majiusr13: it just update my package-list am i right? it seems like it did without problem, twice due to the ;16:36
maji+s16:36
sabelso i dont need boot? just / ?16:36
usr13sabel: You do not need 20G for  a /boot partition.16:36
usr13sabel: Right.  not boot.   Just  /16:36
sabelwhere should i have the "device for boot loader installation" ? in the /home or / ?16:36
k1lsabel: /boot is actually in / . there is no need for a seperate /boot partition in a standard install16:37
ActionParsnipsabel: /16:37
MonkeyDustsabel, you only need to care about /home , /swap and /16:37
sabelYAY thanks! it seems to be working, you all are awesome.16:37
usr13sabel: The boot loader will go into the MBR, (first 512B of the primary HD).  The actual kernel you will boot will be in a directory in  /   (/boot/)16:37
majiusr13: seems like a apt-get upgrade would get me 138 packages, maybe that's a good idea?16:37
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bloouuphey, just a quick question, on unity-greeter, is there anyway to just get rid of the session change button?16:38
MonkeyDustsabel, partitioning is the hardest part, it kept me from using linux years ago16:38
usr13maji: Yes16:38
sabelshrinking down my windows partition was a battle in and of itself...16:38
a5m0hi guys, i was trying to get opengl to work right on my intel 4000 graphics and ran this command after adding xorg-edgers ppa, but now i boot to a black screen sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-core16:39
a5m0sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-intel16:39
rexbloouup : terminal --> sudo gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf in last line add allow-guest=false then save it.16:39
bloouuprex: that just disables the guest account. I want to get rid of the little button that lets you select a session16:39
bloouuplike unity, xfce, fluxbox etc16:39
ActionParsnipa5m0: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc16:39
bloouupif you have those installed16:39
ActionParsniprex: gksudo for gedit, not sudo16:40
rexbloouup: i have never installed16:40
bloouupIt doesn't matter, it's still there by default16:40
bloouupif you log out you'll see a little ubuntu icon next to your username16:40
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rexActionParsnip: but it also work like that16:40
bloouupclick it and you'll get "Unity" and something like "remote session"16:40
usr13sabel: Sometimes it is.  I reccommend [before starting a dual boot project] to first (in MS Windows), do defrag, and then scandisk.  (At least once, if not twice). And in that order. (Ms Windows is very sloppy)16:40
bloouupif you install other WMs and DEs they will be there too16:40
a5m0ActionParsnip, quantal16:41
ActionParsniprex: yes but it can damage files in your home folder and make sudo not work, requiring you to drop to root recovery mode to chown the files from root to your user16:41
sabelah i ran defraggler twice. deleted all the system restore points got rid of my page files and still only managed to wrestle 150 mb out of 350 free GB out of a 1TB hardrive....16:41
ActionParsniprex: or you can simply use the OS right and avoid the mess16:42
rexActionParsnip: got that.16:42
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sabelHmmm question. Now that i have ubuntu installed and working properly..it autoboots to ubuntu. how do i actually select it to boot to windows...?16:42
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usr13sabel: scandisk?16:42
sabeloh oops..disreguard that last question. its still booting from the flash drive16:43
usr13sabel: YOu should be presented with the two options when the grub screen comes up.16:43
RickZillaAlways a good time to do a disk health check also...you don't want to install ubuntu over some bad sectors16:43
usr13sabel: Are you sure you finished the install?16:43
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usr13sabel: (That was too quick.)16:44
sabelthe install finished and had me restart my pc...but..it now is booting to windows..did i mess something up?16:44
yilmazjrib, sorry had to run away from desk. Did you suggest anything for me?16:45
usr13sabel: Yep, sure did.16:45
usr13sabel: Try again.16:45
sabelsweet...what did i do wrong..? it had me select my keyboard options my time zone and..said it copied the files and everythin.16:46
NvveenOkay, I found out that my Nautilus keeps crashing because of the ubuntuone plugin. Anyone know of a fix or workaround for this? The bug seems to be quite common16:46
usr13sabel: What exactly are you installing?  (What is the name of the iso?)16:46
sabelidunno..i got it from ubuntu.com16:46
sabelis the desktop thing16:46
deffragHi regf, are you still there? What's the difference between logical sector size and physical sector size? I connected back drive to laptop and on fdisk it gave "Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes"16:47
usr13sabel: Ubuntu Desktop 12.04  ?16:47
sabelubuntu-12.04 desktop 64 b it16:47
sabelyes16:47
usr13Ok...  Well try again.16:47
sabelAlright lol16:48
geezHi, initctl list returns most of the more vital services with status: stop/waiting. This is a fresh install of 12.04 LTS. Attempts to restart anything especially networking fails. Any ideas?16:48
usr13sabel: The partitions are more-than-likely already created and so the installer will detect them and allow you to format and install on them.16:48
usr13geez: ifconfig eth0    #What does it say?16:49
NvveenOkay, I fixed the nautilus crashing by removing Ubuntu One, but I actually use it, so does anyone know of a workaround?16:49
sabelhow do i message a particular person like you are to me..?16:49
ActionParsnipNvveen: use pcmanfm as file browser :)16:49
usr13sabel: /msg usr13  Hello?16:49
ActionParsnipsabel: type a bit of the nick and hit TAB to complete the nick16:49
ActionParsnipsabel: it will then highlight the name16:50
usr13sabel: Oh yea,  put the name at the beginning of the line.16:50
usr13sabel: /msg usr13  Hello?    #Is for PM (private message).16:50
NvveenActionParsnip, I'd still rather use somethign that's integrated into Ubuntu though. Is this a common error?16:51
ActionParsnipNvveen: no idea, i don't use ubuntuone. pcmanfm is integrated into ubuntu16:51
zykotick9deffrag: honestly, you should stop using fdisk.  even the man page for fdisk, in debian anyways, suggests using any alternative.  one quote "fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy things".  parted/gparted are much better alternatives (and support gpt).16:52
bloouupDoes edubuntu use the stock unity-greeter16:53
majiusr13: the upgrade is done, should i do anything before i try rebooting16:53
rrajbeHi, How can i restart a daemon when it is killed, so that that daemon always works16:53
rrajbe?16:53
MonkeyDustbloouup, what you want cannot be done easily, you need programming skills and change the source, i guess16:53
snoophi! how i enable the 3D of the ubuntu in a virtualbox, i already install the extended pack but no luck16:53
rexbloouup: why dont you try to disable all the other session.16:54
bloouupThat's what I have right now and it works but it's not as professional as I'd like it to be16:54
chung-chyuHI everybody16:54
chung-chyu会中文的么?16:55
raveni just noticed that gimp operations only run on one core - who knows about that?16:55
chung-chyugo to bed16:55
yilmazunity made this system a bit slow, can I revert back to gnome interface (non gnomeshell)16:55
zykotick9!notunity | yilmaz16:55
ubottuyilmaz: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic16:55
yilmazzykotick9, non gnomeshell gnome uı if possible16:56
zykotick9yilmaz: gnome-panel...16:56
yilmazzykotick9, I would assume gnomeshell to be slow as well16:56
snoopi read somewhere that there is a fallback for the gnome16:56
ActionParsnipsnoop: you can install gnome-panel and use that16:57
* zykotick9 wonders if people read teh entire !notunity factoid, or stopped after the gnome-shell mention?16:57
ActionParsnipzykotick9: pretty much16:57
KatbuntuHi16:57
snoopand the GNOME-session-fallback its the same?16:58
* zykotick9 would recommend switching to a more sane DE like xfce over gnome these days. personally, i just dropped DEs altogether, and use only a WM now.16:59
bloouuppff, who even needs a wm? Just use tmux16:59
bloouupor screen16:59
ActionParsnipsnoop: xfce has the gnome2 smell and can run all your gnome apps without issue17:00
zykotick9bloouup: ;) screen is my "main" windows manager17:00
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vagn_karlssonHi. I try to use the default backup program to back up some folders to an external harddisk and the program says there's not enough space but there should be from what I gather. Some pointers?17:08
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sabelive got ubuntu to work! i have i one more issue...i am running on a desktop and..it uses a wireless dongle...how do i get the drivers..or..the linux ones at that..installed on my pc? and where do i find them..?17:10
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ActionParsnipsabel: what wifi chip?17:11
elena-IKis there a easy way to recursively find and delete empty dirs?17:11
sabelNetgear WNDA410017:11
HTC-DZguys/gals, i was downloading openarena from the ubuntu software centre. anyways, 160MB in my pc froz coz i was running amarok and some poker game. so had to restart my pc. did i just lose the 160MB of openarena i downloaded? is their anyway to resume downloads? i dont wanna click install in case it restarts the download completely.17:12
ActionParsnipsabel: thats the adapter, not the chip17:12
ActionParsnipsabel: run:   sudo lshw -C network     do you see a 'Product:' line for the wifi?17:12
ActionParsnipHTC-DZ: depends if some of the packages of the total 160Mb finished17:14
NvveenI have a seperate partition (ext4) on which I'm trying to execute program, but it keeps saying permission denied. The problem here though, is that the correct user and group is set, and all permission bits are right. Does anyone know why tihs is happening?17:14
sabeli literally just got ubuntu working, how to i open a terminal17:14
ruanctrl alt T, if they haven't changed the hotkeys17:15
bobweaversabel,  press ctrl+alt+t17:15
meiwes#python17:15
HTC-DZaction, im not sure. im new to linux. its my first week using it full time. if some packages were complete would that mean it would just resume the download?17:15
bobweaversabel,  or open dash and type in gnome-terminal17:15
wtfnotacceptableJust installed most recent updates to 12.10 on my thinkpad X201, it demanded I reboot. After rebooting it hangs immediately after BIOS and just has a cursor pulsing on the screen.17:15
bobweaverwtfnotacceptable,  no grub or nothing ?17:16
ActionParsnipHTC-DZ: the complete ones will not be redownloaded, the partial ones will be redownloaded17:16
sabelSays HOLY COW that gave alot of information. but it didnt list the wifi adapter..17:16
zykotick9Nvveen: type "mount" in a terminal, does the partition in question have a noexec in it's options?17:16
wtfnotacceptablebobweaver: thinkpad gives me a ctrl+s to get to the boot menu options and nothing else, as soon as that bios screen is gone nothing else appears but the cursor17:16
HTC-DZand once the partial ones are downloaded with the newly downloaded ones, they will "join" up with the ones downloaded on the first try and install itself fully. correct?17:17
ActionParsnipHTC-DZ: indeed17:17
ololohttp://i50.tinypic.com/346q5mx.jpg lol17:17
bobweaversabel, try          lspci -nn | grep 028017:18
wtfnotacceptablebobweaver: so phoenix bios for around two seconds, then intel boot agent for around two seconds, then a cursor and no response17:18
Nvveenzykotick9, no, but adding exec fixed it, although tihs wasn't needed ever before (which is why I'm confused as to why it's needed now :S)17:18
snoopim installing the xubuntu-desktop.. lets see if it get a little bit faster17:18
HTC-DZthanks action. if there was a reward system on this thing id give you a level up lol17:18
wtfnotacceptableEven though 12.10 isn't LTS I would presume the updates, especially ones to core services requiring a reboot, would be tested on common machines like a popular thinkpad17:18
bobweaverwtfnotacceptable,  boot live cd and mount ubuntu partition and re-install grub to it. then reboot17:19
sabeli typed it and nothing did you mean with a sudo..?17:19
bobweaversabel,  try this      sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit && lspci -vnn | pastebinit17:19
ActionParsnipHTC-DZ: i have buckets of karma on launchpad :)17:19
bobweaversabel,  then give us link plz17:20
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bobweaverActionParsnip,  yeah you do ;)17:20
sabeli cant really download anything considering i dont have any internet bob :)17:20
ActionParsnipsabel: you use your login pass for sudo, you get no feedback but the password is being accepted17:20
ActionParsnipbobweaver: trying to catch martin now, bity of a game really17:20
bobweaverActionParsnip,  IDK if you can do it that Mr Pitt is awesome and esp because he is now doing all tests ....17:21
bobweaverActionParsnip,  but best of luck to you .17:21
bobweaverActionParsnip,  you can so it17:21
F0rg0ttenIn ubuntu, if you install a package, end up removing it and deleting the configs, then re-installing, it doesn't put the configs back, how can reinstall to get those configs?17:21
bobweaverActionParsnip,  you can do it *17:21
usr13sabel: You will need wired connection.17:21
wtfnotacceptablebobweaver, ok that sounds like a logical, if difficult, option. I will have a go at it, it's been ages since I've done anything with grub.17:21
HTC-DZone other q, is it possible to run ubuntu everyday without knowing a single command and doing everyday tasks via the gui?17:22
ikoniaHTC-DZ: yes17:22
sabelthere is no other way to get my drivers other than have a wired connection..?17:22
bobweaverwtfnotacceptable,  I will get you a link17:22
ActionParsnipHTC-DZ: it can be, yes but there may be times when you need terminal17:22
SlartF0rg0tten: there is a command called dpkg-reconfigure , it might be able to help17:22
yilmazzykotick9, thank you17:22
ActionParsnipHTC-DZ: you can also automate tasks which GUI can only dream of. Bash is very flexible17:22
sabeli cant find them elswhere and then put them on a USB?17:22
usr13sabel: It is going to be quite difficult to develope your new Ubuntu system without an internet connection.17:22
ActionParsnipsabel: depends on the chip17:23
usr13sabel: Some of those USB adapters are not fully supported.  If you have a PCI card, it might work.  You might try a different WiFi adapter. (But a wired connection will do for now.)17:23
HTC-DZthanks ikonia and action. like i said, this my first week using ubuntu full time. 12.04 LTS was much better upgrade i feel than windows 8. williing to learn as much as i can. :)17:23
bobweaverwtfnotacceptable,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185116417:23
wtfnotacceptablebobweaver, thank you!17:24
Janoshey there, question, i just got a bluetooth keyboard, i paired with my ubuntu with the bluetooth applet no problem. But i can´t login with it, i have to login with another keybord, connect the bluetooth keyboard and then i can use it17:24
usr13sabel: You can't plug an ethernet cable into your router?17:24
bobweaverwtfnotacceptable,  np follow post one two and five17:24
sabelA wired connection is sort of out of the question. the router is in an area faaaaaaar away. How do i figure out what chip i have?17:24
usr13sabel: lspci17:24
Janosso how can i tell bluetoothd to connect the keybord automatically on startup ?17:24
snoopmmmm finish installing xubuntu.. reboot and get the same unity desktop what i did wrong?17:24
ActionParsnipsabel: run:  sudo lshw -C network     if its not listed, run:  lsusb   and you can search for the 8 character hex ID to find guides17:25
sabeljust type lspci into my terminal..?17:25
usr13Janos: It should do it on it's own.17:25
ActionParsnipsabel: that too17:25
ikoniasnoop: you installed ubuntu, not xubuntu17:25
bobweaversnoop,  are you picking xfce from lightdm (login menu )17:25
mac_12hello world17:25
F0rg0ttenSlart: good idea, but now I am just getting sh: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory17:25
snoopin the menu get the same options nothing change..17:25
usr13snoop: If you want to install xfce, you can.   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop17:26
snooplet me see again17:26
snoopi did that17:26
snoopusr1317:26
bobweaverF0rg0tten,  you know how to set -x in script for debuging ?17:26
sabelwhen i ran lsusb it came up with a 9012 Netgear, inc which is the manufactur of my adapter17:26
usr13snoop: So, log out and back in, or reboot.17:26
F0rg0ttenderp, nvm, that fixed it, it had just deleted the directory I was in17:26
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SlartF0rg0tten: hmm.. have you tried uninstalling the package with the --purge option and then reinstalling again?17:26
bobweaversabel,  what is the number the 8 digit number nest to it17:26
sabelRather a 0846:9012 sorryt17:27
usr13sabel: iwconfig    #What does that say?17:27
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F0rg0ttenSlart: yes, but it didn't replace the config files, when I left the directory then reinstalled and ran the command you suggested, it replaced the config files, thanks17:27
usr13sabel: Does it say, "no wireless extensions"?17:27
Janosusr13, mm weird, it´s not working, if i log in via ssh and do sudo bluez-test-input connect <MAC> then i can login with my bluetooth keyboard17:27
sabel0846:9012 Netgear, Inc17:27
SlartF0rg0tten: ah.. nice.. you're welcome17:27
bobweaversabel,  http://www.googlubuntu.com/results/?cx=006238239194895611142%3Au-ocqbntw_o&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=0846%3A9012&as_qdr=all&sa=Google+Search&lang=en17:27
yilmazwhat's the proper way to change system language in 12.04?17:27
yilmazsystem settings/language settings?17:27
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ActionParsnipsabel: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1942689.html   seems to need ndiswrapper17:28
bobweaveryilmaz,  that is one great way17:28
yilmazbobweaver, any others?17:28
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usr13Janos: Hummm.... I don't know.  Every wireless keyboard I've used just worked.  I suppose you can put those commands in the /etc/rc.local file.17:28
bobweaveryilmaz,  you could change profile and what not under ~/.local  but that is a pain in the rear17:29
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yilmazsystem settings/lang settings did not appear to work. that's why I am asking17:29
usr13Janos: (above   "exit 0"  )17:29
ololohttp://i.imgur.com/0M5MT.jpg17:30
sabelso reading those posts made me feel even less in control of my situation...17:30
jribyilmaz: did you pastebin that info?17:30
bobweaveryilmaz,  type into terminal       gnome-language-selector    is that the same thing ?17:30
Janosusr13, yeah but i don´t think that would work, you see i have to actually press my keyboard power button for that command to work, otherwise it just says host is down17:30
snoopusr13: tnks.. its done now xubuntu 12.10 runs much better.. on my mac =D17:31
Janosthat´s weird17:31
sabelI'm very new to this..it seems as though they solved my problem but i understand none of the code.17:31
Janosmaybe i have to tell the keybord to pair automatically with the ubuntu instead17:31
usr13sabel: And so that WiFi device is what we would call "not fully supported".  You will need to install ndiswrapper.  Sure would be a LOT easier if you could get this PC plugged into an internet connection.  Can you share the internet from the PC you are on now.  Plug a crossover cable into the ethernet ports of the PC you are on and the other end into the new Ubuntu PC....?17:31
Slart!ops | ololo17:31
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Janoswould that make sense at all ? new to bluetooth here :P17:32
sabelthat can happen, im not sure how to set it up past plugging in the wire though17:32
usr13sabel: What OS is on the PC you are using now?17:32
yilmazjrib, which info I am sorry17:33
sabelXP17:33
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yilmazbobweaver, correct that's the thing17:33
jribyilmaz: while you're pastebinning, include: /etc/default/locale, /etc/environment and ~/.pam_environment, the output of "env" and "locale"17:33
usr13sabel: http://ws/terry/ics-xp-DHCP.txt17:33
usr13sabel: Sorry, wrong link....17:34
yilmazjrib, all right just a sec17:34
sabelno worries17:34
usr13sabel: http://trryhend.startlogic.com/terry/ics-xp-DHCP.txt17:34
TDJACROne of my raid partitions was re-created, with a different UUID. I edited mdadm.conf with the new details, and grub.cfg, but grub still looks for the old mduuid path. Is there a file I'm neglecting to update?17:35
MestreLionI have 16BG installed, onboard video is disabled, but my system properties is only showing 15.7GiB, is this normal? Shouldn't it show 16GiB ?17:35
SlartTDJACR: if you updated grub.cfg you might have to run some kind of grup-update script17:36
Azzle-DazzleIs it possible to configure remmina remote desktop so that I can access it through my mobile ?17:36
SlartMestreLion: it's probably 16*1000*1000*1000 and your computer reports each GB as 1024*1024*102417:36
MestreLionAzzle-Dazzle: if you mobile has any RDP or VNC client, yes17:36
usr13sabel: And after you get it hooked up, you should first do: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade17:37
TDJACRSlart: What would that actually change?17:37
zykotick9Slart: actually, if you change grub.cfg and then run update-grub, your changes will disappear...17:37
SlartMestreLion: could be something else as well.. but that's one of the most common reasons for harddrive/memory sizes not adding up17:37
TDJACRzykotick9: Yeah, that's what I was thinking17:37
Azzle-DazzleMestreLion - As in app ? Im an Android user which is basically linux on a mobile so i should imagine its possible :)17:37
MestreLionSlart: GiB means 1024... it shows 4GiB in other computers17:37
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SlartTDJACR: I'm not sure any more.. they've messed with grub since I last checked into stuff.. it was just an idea worth checking17:38
MestreLionAzzle-Dazzle: remmina is a client, not a server. you must install a server in Ubuntu, then use a client in your android17:38
zykotick9MestreLion: see the output of both "free" and "free -m" i bet "free" shows 16 right?17:39
TDJACRHmm. This isn't good =/17:39
usr13sabel: Also see:   http://support.microsoft.com/kb/30612617:39
crimsonmaneactually remmina -can- act as a server, but you manually have to set up a receive.17:39
yilmazjrib, http://pastebin.com/ZQ7TzQHu17:39
Azzle-Dazzlearrrr now it makes sense :) Thanks, I have Remmina installed so any client should be able to connect to it.17:39
sabelthe internet connection is working! yay17:39
Azzle-Dazzleill dig around for a decent client now17:39
sabelstep one lol17:39
usr13sabel: Ok good.17:39
SlartMestreLion: I have 8 Gb installed and it shows 7.7 for me, not sure why there is a difference17:39
MestreLionzykotick9: 16434708 and  16049 respectively17:39
usr13sabel: You should first do: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade17:40
snooptnx alot everyone c ya later...17:40
zykotick9MestreLion: all good then ;)17:40
yilmazjrib, I only used gnome-language-selector and edited /etc/default/locale when the first did not appear to work17:40
Tex_Nicksable : just to make sure you understand ... you need a crossover cable ... not a standard cable :)17:40
fishcookeri've tried install blueman17:40
crimsonmaneusr13: instead of a semi colon, && should be used. that way, the second command is only executed if the first one is successful.17:40
jribyilmaz: interesting, I wonder where LANGUAGE is getting set to its value you see in the output of locale17:40
fishcookerbut don't work MonkeyDust17:40
MestreLionzykotick9: not quite... free -g shows 15, not 1617:40
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zykotick9MestreLion: that's normal...17:41
usr13sabel: I have to go now... work to do... Catch you later, (there are plenty of others in here that can answer any further questions you may have).  Good luck with your new Ubuntu system.17:41
sabelthank you!17:41
yilmazjrib, I believe gnome-language-selector does that17:41
usr13crimsonmane: Noted... Thanks for correction.17:41
fishcooker$ bluetoothd -u17:41
searchingautoremove libdrm-intel1 not working because plymount dependence how to fix?17:41
jribyilmaz: so the situation now is that you have translations in turkish?17:41
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yilmazjrib, in language tab, several languages are active while rest is inactive17:42
fishcookerhow to enable bluetooth support17:42
fishcooker?17:42
MestreLionzykotick9: how come? 16434708KiB = 15.7GiB, not 1617:42
yilmazyes, main menu isin Turkish, as well as error messages etc17:42
crimsonmaneMestreLion: a portion of the drive is not accessible to you because that portion is needed to store filenames and locations and tables and such.17:43
MestreLioncrimsonmane: but i'm talking about installed RAM17:43
zykotick9MestreLion: and 15.7GiB is 15 right?  so using -g shows 15...  your system is reporting your memory properly...17:43
crimsonmaneMestreLion: same story with ram.17:43
jribyilmaz: and if you open up gedit in your terminal for example, it's also turkish?17:43
DeltaKiloquestion: i'm building a Ubuntu server and have installed the XFCE GUI for it for the sake of my brain without coffee17:43
DeltaKilohow do I kick it off from the commandline?17:43
yilmazjrib, I do not remember if this was a clean 12.04 install or an upgrade from 10.04, which may be an upgrade from 8.04 :)17:43
wtfnotacceptablebobweaver, ok after update/no reboot, I followed that thread and reinstalled grub, now it just boots into a "grub>" command line and it's not clear what to do next, the main bit is an encrypted volume btw (won't make that mistake again I think, this is just ridiculous for a standard update to have killed my machine, if I was on the road without access to my desktop I'd just be simply screwed).17:44
TDJACRWhere else would that path be stored?17:44
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wakejagr_i'm trying to set xterm to always open with the option metaSendsEscape.  do i need to edit my ~/.Xdefaults file or my ~/.Xresources file?  .Xdefaults seems to be depreciated, but I have yet to find an ubuntu specific statement to use .Xresources instead17:44
steeveam I okay to ask for tech help here?17:45
jribwakejagr_: use ~/.Xresources17:45
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DeltaKilosteeve, I'd tell you, but I'm still waiting for an answer for my (dumb) tech help question17:45
zykotick9wakejagr_: you need to use ~/.Xdefaults-YOURHOSTNAMEHERE for it to work17:45
sabel_Hurray! i am now talking to you from my Ubuntu PC!17:45
steeveDeltaKilo My question's dumber, try me.17:45
sabel_Can anyone help me find the drivers for my wireless adapter? im currently connected Via Ethernet cord.17:47
crimsonmaneMestreLion: part of ram is used to remember what's in the rest of ram, as an easy way to explain it17:47
MestreLioncrimsonmane: so is there a way to see the *installed* ram instead of the available ?17:47
yilmazjrib, any luck?17:47
zykotick9MestreLion: "cat /proc/meminfo"17:47
jribyilmaz: and if you open up gedit in your terminal for example, it's also turkish?17:47
yilmazjrib, yes17:48
Guest52082Is there a program to find out what codec a video needs?17:48
RickZillasabel_: adapter, or card?17:48
sabel_its an adapter17:48
tmmunqmost of the video players will tell you the video/audio format, even if they dont know how to play it17:48
wakejagrjrib, zykotick9: thanks for the help.  editing ~/.Xresources and reloading with xrdb did the trick for me17:49
RickZillasabel_:Hmm, I would think those are harder to find17:49
fishcookeris there any bluetooth aplet on ubuntu desktop17:49
jribyilmaz: and if you do "LANGUAGE=en_US:en gedit", it opens in english?  This is the first time I see this format for the value of LANGUAGE, so I am checking what it means and how it may be set17:49
MestreLionthanks zykotick9... it shows 16434708 kB, which is correct. so maybe both free and system properties are mis-converting kB to KiB ?17:49
sabel_right and i have no idea where or how to look.17:49
DeltaKilosteeve: well, I'm running ubuntu server 12.10.17:49
yilmazjrib, yes it does17:49
RickZillaDoesn't vlc player come with all the codecs it needs?17:49
DeltaKiloI've installed XFCE for ease of management for my less command-liney guys17:49
Guest52082tmmunq, I am trying to play a video with VLC but it doesn't play it. VLC exits right away.17:49
DeltaKilosince this is sitting on a VSphere VM17:50
wtfnotacceptableCan anyone help me? Thinkpad x201, installed 12.10 update demanding reboot, rebooted and nothing after bios, followed advice of guy here and reinstalled grub, now it boots to a grub command line with crazy options. Volume is encrypted from Ubuntu 12.10 wizard asking if you wanted an encrypted drive.17:50
DeltaKiloI want to be able to manage the network settings from within XFCE, but it doesn't show up under the network list.17:50
steeveBasically, mouse clicks only register sporadically for me. Sometimes they don't register at all, sometimes they get passed to the window behind the one I'm clicking on, sometimes they'll only work within a specific window/region (ie the sidebar, or a window.) Google is no help, and nor is trying other distros (I've tried 12.04, 12.10, and xubuntu 12.04 and no luck.17:50
OerHeksRickZilla, yes,  you only need to the run css script to play dvd17:50
DeltaKiloso, i'm not sure how the hell to make XFCE see the existing network connection17:50
wtfnotacceptableI've no idea what to do next, the link I got http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1851164, tells me to update grub, but I am not at bash, I am at a grub command line and it's not really responding to bash commands17:51
OerHeksRickZilla, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs17:51
DeltaKiloanyone?17:51
tmmunqmight be an error in the video. try it from the terminal, see if vlc has any errors. try another video player, something based on mplayer or xine, for this file and try a couple more files in vlc17:52
sciotrico hai folks17:52
* DeltaKilo listens to crickets17:52
ClientAliveis there a way to change how my mouse pointer reacts when I hold down the left click button to highlight something? I saw this guy in a youtube video and when he highlights something the arrow turns into a ring. I'm on ubuntu 12.04 but with gnome 3.17:52
sciotriccan any one tell how to run counter strie on this ubutntu'17:52
bazhangsciotric, use wine. check the appdb17:53
bazhang!appdb | sciotric17:53
ubottusciotric: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help17:53
jribyilmaz: you should just start grepping .* in your home for en_US:tr:en :)17:53
RickZillaI'm assuming you already installed the non-"17:53
sciotrici have installed it through wine17:53
RickZillanon-Canonical software in the sources?17:53
bazhangsciotric, /join #winehq for help with that17:53
sciotricand even it's shortcut has appeared17:53
bazhangsciotric, ask in the wine channel17:54
media-centreany ideas on how to get a firewire card working17:54
sciotricbut having problem to run this17:54
yilmazjrib, testing :)17:54
bazhangsciotric, check the appdb as I said earlier17:54
sciotricappdb stands for\17:54
sciotric?17:54
ActionParsnipsciotric: search for it online, you'll see17:55
bazhanghttp://appdb.winehq.org    <--------- sciotric17:55
bj0rn2When I get root auth dialog from gnome shell starting a program like synaptic, it evaluates the password before I press ok and before I'm finished typing.. anyone seen this behaviour?17:55
DeltaKilonm, i figured it out17:55
sciotricthanks17:56
ActionParsnipsciotric: even the dumbest search would bring that up...17:56
DeltaKiloyay17:56
DeltaKiloit's alive...ALIVE...17:56
DeltaKiloalso, i really like XFCE.17:56
yilmazjrib, grep "en_US\:tr\:en" .* -r is running w/o much output for yet17:56
sciotrici am noob17:56
ActionParsnipsciotric: what? to searching the web?17:57
qw[russiaNoName]hello all17:57
ActionParsnipschrodinger: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=appdb17:57
bazhangActionParsnip, he's gone17:58
qw[russiaNoName]help me please i install now Linux and i would like update or upgrade my system17:58
yilmazqw[russiaNoName], sudo apt-get dist-upgrade17:58
ActionParsnipbazhang: I swear only select people are allowed to search the web17:58
bazhangqw[russiaNoName], what version of ubuntu, how installed17:59
sabel_so..every time i try to install wine i get "unable to locate pakage" ive run apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa and updated now i try to sudo apt-get install wine1.4 it cant find it..?17:59
bazhangwildc4rd, dist-upgrade does NOT change versions17:59
bazhangyilmaz, ^17:59
bazhangsorry wildc4rd17:59
bazhang!addppa | sabel_18:00
ubottusabel_: Since Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details18:00
bazhangsabel_, looks like you were using the wrong command. also update sources.list once you have added it18:01
Ace!nvidia18:01
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto18:01
yilmazbazhang, did not know that after years of debian and ubuntu user experience18:01
yilmaz:)18:01
qw[russiaNoName]bazhang: http://pastebin.com/9Uc8YmMb18:01
qwebirc14433hi, during upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 it says "no space left on device".  It turns out /boot is full.  I check the /boot directory and it lists quite some files, can I delete the old files?18:01
bazhangqw[russiaNoName], what version of ubuntu; how installed18:01
jribqwebirc14433: uninstall old kernels18:01
wtfnotacceptableso a simple "update" to 12.10 kills my whole system18:02
qw[russiaNoName]10.1018:02
DeltaKilookay, maybe I didn't figure this out...18:02
qw[russiaNoName]install from dvd disk18:02
wtfnotacceptablewhich is all intel processor, intel graphics etc.18:02
bazhangqw[russiaNoName], thats end of life18:02
DeltaKiloUbuntu Server 12.10, running XFCE Gui. How do I manage my network settings from the GUI?18:02
wtfnotacceptablenothing special, but a required update and reboot kills the whole thing18:02
wtfnotacceptablethanks18:02
bazhang!eolupgrades | qw[russiaNoName]18:02
sabel_TBH Im TOTALLY new to this whole thing. im trying to follow a guide written online to run a game.. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=194618818:02
ubottuqw[russiaNoName]: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:02
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: why thanks?18:02
DeltaKiloanyone?18:03
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, because someone didn't test their update and now it's lost my data?18:03
XBOCTDeltaKilo: if it's a server why do you need XFCE/GUI on it? just install webmin and manage it through a web browser on a remote machine18:03
ActionParsnipDeltaKilo: if you add a GUI to the server install, it becomes a desktop OS18:03
Azzle-DazzleAnyone know how I can find my ipv4 address18:03
XBOCTAzzle-Dazzle: ifconfig18:03
koen_does polkit prevent opening a serial line (ttyS0), even when the user is part of the groups 'dialout', 'sudo' and 'adm'?18:03
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, all my important stuff is on ubuntu one, but bookmarks and some random docs and images were on my main drive18:03
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: no, as you wil have backups if your data is important, right?18:03
qw[russiaNoName]bazhang: ) but i ask how update or upgrade my OS18:03
bazhangqw[russiaNoName], and I gave you a link. please read it18:03
Azzle-Dazzlethanks, Thats too similar to the ipconfig in windows ;)18:03
DeltaKiloXBOCT: well, I'm not great at CLI, so I installed the GUI to try and set it up for non-DHCP, etc.18:03
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, yeah, but why should there be updates so frequently to 12.10, and why did this one kill my whole install18:04
DeltaKilo:/18:04
DeltaKiloI installed the web management thingy, I think, though18:04
bazhangDeltaKilo, normally via network-manager18:04
XBOCTDeltaKilo: "webmin" is amazing and it is really easy to use18:04
qw[russiaNoName]bazhang: i reed this18:04
bazhang!webmin | XBOCT18:04
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, it's just not acceptable for a simple update to kill the capacity of a machine to reboot when I have specifically selected this machine and paid extra for linux compatibility, it's all intel, there are no proprietary drivers etc18:04
ubottuXBOCT: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.18:04
yilmazjrib, absolutely no files18:04
DeltaKiloXBOCT: well, how do I get it running?18:04
DeltaKiloas of right now it does not seem to be.18:05
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: because its an intermediate release so you'll get more updates. The beta releases get updates every few hours18:05
XBOCTDeltaKilo: just install webmin using the package manager18:05
XBOCTDeltaKilo: after it is installed you need to browse over to that computer; if you're doing it locally then just go to https://localhost:1000018:05
bazhangXBOCT, webmin is not supported. please dont recommend it here18:05
zelozeloswhen i start up i get a "sorry, ubuntu 12.10 has experienced an internal error the path is usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume18:05
DeltaKiloXBOCT: ahhh, kk, i'll try that18:05
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: have you reported any bugs?18:05
XBOCTbazhang: didn't know18:05
bazhang!ebox | XBOCT18:05
ubottuXBOCT: zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).18:05
yilmazjrib, how is /etc/environment populated? from /etc/default/locale?18:06
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, yeah but if the Dash menu taskes 5 seconds to load on a multi-gigahertz machine in 12.04, I installed 12.10 on the laptop in the hopes of the dash being actually fast18:06
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, it just happened18:06
zelozelosit says its a suspend/resume failure but i didnt resume or suspend, it was a full startup18:06
DeltaKiloXBOCT: okay there we go. you mind if I bug you in PM? less clutter/easier to follow18:06
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, but it's still not clear exactly what went wrong as it's such a major f-up that I can't even get to the command line and dmesg etc18:06
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: so far you haven't actually explained what happens when you boot. You've just moaned which helps nobody. Most of all you.18:06
zelozeloshow do i fix it? i found a few posts on bugs but idunno what to do18:07
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: if you make a fresh ubuntu user, is it the same there>?18:07
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: you can press CTRL+ALT+T and run a terminal18:07
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, nothing happened when I booted, just a cursor after bios, then bobweaver gave me a link to a series of instructions to reinstall grub, I now have a grub prompt18:07
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: try saying THAT rather than whinging.18:08
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: have you tried the boot option:  nomodeset18:08
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: if you hold SHIFT at boot you should see grub18:08
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, I did, but there was not help forthcoming.18:08
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, I am at grub, but it's not clear what to do next18:08
wtfnotacceptablei.e. "grub>" is what I get after boot18:09
wtfnotacceptablebut it's not bash, I can't even use fdisk18:09
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: press E on the kernel to (e)dit the line, delete the words 'quiet splash' and in it's place add 'nomodeset'  press ENTER to boot18:09
tmmunqyeah, that means theres something wrong with your grub.cfg18:09
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: oh then it sounds like the MBR is a bit freaky18:09
tmmunqwrong root, initrd, something like that18:09
zelozelosi would just install grub, like it says ;)18:09
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video   may help18:10
Sachwhat's the difference between installing updates though Update Manager and running sudo apt-get update in Termina?18:10
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, I don't get a boot menu at all, it was nothing till I booted into a live usb and reinstalled grub. Ok I will check your link18:10
zelozelosnothing18:10
OerHeksSach, none.18:10
dr_willisSach:  not much.18:10
dr_willis;)18:10
sabelok...so..im getting this error when i try to install wine18:10
sabelsabel@Sabel:~$ apt-get install wine1.4 E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?18:10
dr_willisSach:  sudo apt-get update    just Updates the list of packages to know what updates exist..  you actually Install them via 'sudo apt-get upgrade'18:10
dr_willissabel:  you run ONE package manager tool at a time.18:11
dr_willissabel:  and you need 'sudo' befor that command18:11
zelozelossabel, log out n back in, dont save the session18:11
Sachdr_willis: so I should run 'sudo apt-get upgrade' frequently?18:11
wtfnotacceptableSach, no don't update or upgrade frequency18:11
zelozelosor srry, sudo what dr said, sudo18:12
wtfnotacceptableSach, because it can kill your whole system18:12
VirungaHi guys, i'd like to find every file without extension, could you help me, please? This is what i did find . -name '.*\.[^/]+$' -o # ... do something but it didn't work18:12
wtfnotacceptableSach, because the updates and upgrades are not tested properly18:12
sabelok..so..i ran it again and got this lol..18:12
sabelsabel@Sabel:~$ apt-get install wine1.4 E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?18:12
Sachwtfnotacceptable: so how do I know what and when to update?18:12
wtfnotacceptableSach, I18:12
sabeloops misspaste18:13
sabelwine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-amd64 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3)            Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3)            Recommends: ttf-droid but it is not installable            Recommends: ttf-mscorefonts-installer but it is not installable            Recommends: ttf-umefont but it is not installable            Recommends: ttf-unfonts-core but it is not installable            Recommends: winbind but it is not go18:13
wtfnotacceptableSach, I'd recommend using only LTS if you value your time, and updating only once a week18:13
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: you can boot liveCD, that is OS independant. You could even have zero OSes installed and boot live CD18:13
wtfnotacceptableSach, Canonical and others think almost daily updates are acceptable, they are not, and they don't test those updates18:13
Sachwtfnotacceptable: can I assume that all update on LTS are safe?18:13
bazhangwtfnotacceptable, thats not correct18:14
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: the LTS releases have thorough testing. I suggest you use Precise if you like rock solidness18:14
wtfnotacceptableSach, on LTS they are more likely to be safe18:14
bazhangwtfnotacceptable, please dont spread misinformation18:14
wtfnotacceptableSach, I've never had one go wrong on LTS18:14
wtfnotacceptableSach, but I just had one go catastrophically wrong on 12.1018:14
wtfnotacceptableSach, so I'd recommend LTS for stability18:14
wtfnotacceptableat least18:14
wtfnotacceptablebazhang, tell that misinformation to my machine that won't boot18:15
qw[russiaNoName]help me please install install_flash_player_11_linux_i386.tar.gz18:15
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: thats because the testing in LTYS is a lot more, its made to be more solid18:15
bazhangwtfnotacceptable, your single instance does not define reality.18:15
wtfnotacceptablebazhang, my machine has been fine for ages and I haven't installed anything system level, only user level, for ages. It's all open source, no binary drivers. I just installed an Ubuntu update which required a reboot and now it won't boot18:16
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: have you tested your RAM using memtest on the liveCD? have yuo tested your HDD using manufacturers tools?18:16
DeltaKilonote to self: when creating VM, make sure you set said VM's VLAn to the correct one18:16
mindbreakerin skype, there is a method to login with a ms account .. so i also want to have my msn contacts in skype .. in skype for windows, it works, but not on ubuntu .. is there a method to get all my msn contacts, too?18:16
bazhangqw[russiaNoName], 10.10 is end of life. please upgrade to a supported system18:16
sabel..I tried to install wine 1.5 but it says it has unmet dependancies..how do i get the dependancie?18:16
DeltaKiloderp.18:16
qw[russiaNoName]bazhang: now upgrade18:16
bazhangqw[russiaNoName], to what version18:16
DeltaKiloeven though that doesn't solve anything18:17
qw[russiaNoName]i dont have18:17
bazhangqw[russiaNoName], you said you are now upgrading; to what version18:17
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, I won't rule out a HDD error, but the only think that's changed on the machine in over two weeks is the system update I installed two minutes before it asked me to reboot and it didn't reboot18:17
qw[russiaNoName]in konsole i am write sudo apt-get dist upgrade18:17
a5m0are these drivers different than the xorg-edgers? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/ I'm looking for the best drivers so i can do some better gaming :/18:18
Virungai'd like to find every file without extension, could you help me, please? This is what i did $> find . -name '.*\.[^/]+$' -o -type f ... # ... do something but it didn't work18:18
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, that's why I haven't filed a bug report yet either, I am trying to make sure it's Ubuntu and not my HDD, but all the evidence is pointing at Ubuntu at the moment18:18
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: its worth exploring18:18
bazhangqw[russiaNoName], thats not how to do it. please read the link I gave you carefully18:18
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: grab the ultimate boot cd, they have drive testers from the main HDD manufacturers18:18
SlartVirunga: can you define what you mean by "without extension" ? does it have to be 3 characters after a dot? I use blabla.shader   for shader code.. would .shader be an extension?18:19
ActionParsnipVirunga: i'd ask in #bash18:20
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, well I am at grub, I just have to re-learn the whole of grub (fun!)18:20
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: i gave a link how to chroot from live CD and reinstate grub that way18:20
PiciVirunga: -name does file globbing, not regex. Use -regex instead.18:20
pomeislhistoria est magistra vitae18:21
pomeisl!hu18:21
ubottuMagyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál18:21
VirungaPici: i'll do it, thanks18:21
DeltaKiloblah18:21
VirungaSlart: without extension i mean it isn't divided in two parts, with the right part without dots, by a dot.18:21
VirungaActionParsnip: maybe 'll do it, thanks.18:21
SlartVirunga: hmm.. give me a minute to think about this.. I'll get back to you18:22
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, I've already reinstalled grub in a similar way from another link, I am now able to boot into a grub command line now but I have to figure out what to do next18:22
VirungaSlart: ok.18:22
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, given the other partition is encrypted (last time I make that mistake)18:22
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, but even if it wasn't it's not clear what to do next18:22
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: yeah encrypted is all kinds of headache imho18:23
levihi all18:23
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, I'd rather have not had to reboot and kill my machine18:23
zeeHello, I am experiencing slight issues with the Firefox version bundled with ubuntu18:23
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, I'd rather they tested their updates on at least a subset of machines18:23
bazhangzee such as what18:23
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: they do18:23
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, can't be too many, this is all intel all open source, it's not like it needs anything special (works perfectly out of the box from a usb install)18:24
zeeWell, I'm on this site (bad-dragon.com) trying to purchase products of theirs18:24
zeebut I am experiencing issues adding products to cart18:24
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, so if it doesn't require anything custom and it's now broken from an update, I say, bad update18:24
zeeyet this works fine on my computer running windows vista and firefox nightly18:24
sabeli just installed ubuntu. is there any updates or anything like that i should do?18:24
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SlartVirunga: it seems that anything containing a dot would match that definition of "extension", except if the dot is first or last... so this might work  find ./ -type f -regex .[!\.]*.18:25
wtfnotacceptablesabel, if it's 12.04 install the updates, but a recent update from 12.10 just killed my machine so I wouldn't recommend them at the moment18:25
zeeI'd rather not type my credit card information on the computer that runs vista, as it is so terribly insecure. Can anyone help me with these issues?18:25
wtfnotacceptablesabel, if it's working as you want it to work, don't bother just now, do it in a few days18:25
SlartVirunga: I'm not sure that's the answer you're looking for but it's an answer to what you asked for.. =/18:26
sabelit is working for the most part i just am having some serious trouble installing Wine..18:26
wtfnotacceptablesabel, updates are unlikely to help with wine, it's just hard to configure as it is, I am not sure why it's the case but wine has forever been a total disaster in terms of default install18:27
zeecan anyone here help me?18:27
wtfnotacceptablesabel, don't worry though, steam is coming soon18:27
a5m0are these better/different than using the xorg-edgers ppa? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2012Q4.html18:27
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: you are the only person in a long time taht has reported this that I have heard of and I help in here literally on a daily basis as well as on launchpad18:27
sabelright..but..unfortunatly i need wine for most of my games anyway. for one specifically League of LEgends18:27
Night_ElfHi all. What is a good software for recording the screen? Something similar to 'fraps' in winWorld ?18:28
ActionParsnipa5m0: edgers is not for the casual users, it is extremely experimental18:28
ActionParsnipNight_Elf: kazam or recordmydesktop18:28
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, I still haven't ruled out the HDD, but it was directly after installing an update. I am having trouble blaming the hdd at the moment (and grub reinstalled fine onto the non-encrypted bit)18:28
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: maybe a grub update didn't quite complete and caused an issue.18:29
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: I'd also test RAM18:29
VirungaSlart: no it don't. I wan't a regex that marches for example /path.to.some/thing but not /path/to/something.else or /path.to/so.thing18:29
kvtehey, could someone please help me with a question?18:29
Virunga*doesn't18:29
ActionParsnipkvte: ask away18:29
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, as in, browsing with 20 tabs, music, terminals, etc on a machine that hasn't rebooted in a week. update dialogue appears, install, requests reboot, reboot, doesn't boot18:29
kvteI'm trying to browse motherless.com and for some reason it's telling me that i don't have adobe installed18:29
kvteflash player works fine on youtube and stuff, it's just motherless thats not working18:30
kvtedo you know what the problem could be?18:30
SlartVirunga: ahh.. while I go back and try you can see if this works for you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=850918718:30
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, is there a website that lists the updates to 12.10 in chronological order? maybe we can see what was updated18:30
ActionParsnipkvte: have you tried other browsers?18:30
tmmunq....how is that ubuntu related?18:30
bhaveshis there something faster than gparted?18:31
xDesukvte, you are shameless. I like you.18:31
ActionParsnipwtfnotacceptable: if you mount your internal partition and navigate to var/log you can read dpkg.log and see what waas updated18:31
SuperNullwtf. what is the point of IdleOne ?18:31
ActionParsnipSuperNull: how do you mean?18:32
wtfnotacceptableActionParsnip, k going to try to get the main partition mounted, encrypted though so it might take a while to figure it out. I will be back in a while. I expect to waste three hours on this and just reinstall in the end.18:32
a5m0ActionParsnip, i realize it's experimental but i was trying to find out if the other drivers were better or if they were the same, it seems like there are no propietary drivers for intel 4000 graphics?18:32
ActionParsnipa5m0: there aren't. intel themselves make the intel drivers for linux. they also contribute lots to the kernel development too18:32
VirungaSlart: found it find . -regextype posix-extended -regex '^.*?/[^.]+$'18:33
dr_willisi belive intel may outsource (or has in the past) some of their linux drivers. ;) they had some legal issues with that a few years back. :P Hopefully they learned to do them all in house now.18:33
yilmazjrib, can I simply reset all locale related settings?18:33
SlartVirunga: nice =)18:33
ClientAlivewhat do they call the bar on the left side of gnome 3 that has launchers in it? I've been trying to google how to get rid of it but not sure I'm using the right search words.18:34
yilmazjrib, dpkg-reconfigure locales?18:34
dr_willisClientAlive:  the activies panel/favorites list?18:34
VirungaSlart: thanks for your time.18:34
SlartVirunga: you're welcome18:34
tmmunqi dont recall gnome3 having a bar on the left. maybe you mean unity?18:34
dr_willisClientAlive:  i doubt if theres a simple tweak for it in gnome-shell ;)18:34
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dr_willisClientAlive:  Unity has the left side launcher panel. Its not removeable. but can be set to auto-hide18:35
cbkhi all18:35
cbkhave some problems saving GdkColor object to desktopcouch dictionary18:36
cbki've used quickly to generate ubuntu-app18:36
cbkany suggestion?18:36
jiffe98anyone know why when I use perl's Net::SNMP I'm getting 'perl: warning: Setting locale failed.' in the reply?18:36
jiffe98my locale is sert18:36
jiffe98set18:36
cbkAttributeError: 'Document' object has no attribute 'read'18:37
ClientAlivedr_willis: I've been searching for a shell extension for that. I got a shell extension called axe menu that I like a lot more but I just have to get rid of that stinkin' bar now.  :(18:37
g_hi, i have a question/comment on the recent update of ubuntu...18:37
micah__can someone pleeease help me set up wifi18:37
dr_willisClientAlive:  i really dont use gnome-shell, i perfer unity.18:37
bazhang!wifi | micah__18:37
ubottumicah__: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:37
dr_willismicah__:  details of whats not working will help us help you18:37
cbkmiacah__ what's big deal?18:37
zeehi I discovered18:38
micah__im trying to setup wifi on my old powerbook g4 I had to install ubuntu 9.04 power pc cause it was the only version that would work18:38
zeean easter egg18:38
zeein ubuntu18:38
zeewhen you run18:38
FloodBot1zee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:38
micah__and I cant find a way to connect to wireless18:38
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ClientAlivedr_willis: I see18:38
pjotterHello everyone. Does anybody know of a recent problem concerning flash and Xubuntu? Most of the flashplayers (e.g. youtube) have suddenly become slow and buggy.18:38
cbkmicah__ find out ya card vendor (lspci | grep Wire)18:39
micah__how do i find out my card vendor?18:39
yilmazjrib, anyways thank for trying18:39
yilmazbye all18:40
cbkpjotter, what arch version of xubuntu are you using?18:40
dr_willispjotter:  flash on linux has always been buggy..  its been a top 10 problem in this channel for.. well.. ever.18:40
pjotter:)18:41
pjotterI am using 12.0418:41
ActionParsnippjotter: could install chrome, it has it's own flash plugin18:41
cbkdr_willis, i've noticed 32-bit sys has bit better performance the 64bit ones...or i'm wrong o.O18:41
dr_willisor use the various flash-replacer plugins to watch the videos in vlc.18:41
pjotterI am trying that right now...18:42
micah__anyone know how to set up wifi for ubuntu on a laptop?18:42
ActionParsnipcbk: depends on the task18:42
dr_williscbk:  i never use 32bit.. so no idea.  ive no issues with flash on my current machine - and its 64bit18:42
a5m0ActionParsnip, haha i gave him that same advice in #xubuntu about installing chrome18:42
tmmunqbugs and poor performance in flash? lol, you dont say18:42
dr_willismicah__:  for my laptop i just click the wifi icon at the top right.. and connect...18:42
cbkanyone developing with quickly?18:42
ActionParsnipa5m0: its all I use, no adobe flash in sight :)18:42
micah__it wont scan for wireless networks and wont connect when i put mine in manually18:43
a5m0yep, does chromium have it too?18:43
micah__when i do it just says wireless disconnected18:43
ActionParsnipmicah__: what wifi chip?18:43
micah__idk its in an old power book g4 mac18:43
ActionParsnipa5m0: no, its a proprietary blob added by google. its one of the differences18:43
elstudmicah what do you get when you click on arrows in upper right  hand corner18:44
ActionParsnipa5m0: you can link the plugin into chromium if you use it though :)18:44
trismcbk: you might try #ubuntu-app-devel18:44
pjotterChrome did the trick. The flash problem lies with firefox, I think.18:44
cbktrism,  tnx18:44
dr_willisthese days you can get decent USB-wifi dongles on amazon for $18 that work out of the box in ubuntu. ;)   a must have  for my PC toolbox.18:44
ActionParsnipmicah__: run:   sudo lshw -C network    what is output?18:44
micah__I dont see an arrow in the right hand corner @elstud18:44
micah__one set actionparsnip18:45
micah__sec*18:45
BustacapI'm having trouble getting a hard drive to be detected :/18:45
micah__ActionParsnip: it says network 0 and 1 disables18:45
ActionParsnipBustacap: does it show in BIOS?18:45
micah__and ethernet stuff18:45
ActionParsnipmicah__: what is the product line  for the wifi?18:45
elstudwhat distro are you using18:45
micah__wireless IEEE 80211bg18:46
ActionParsnipmicah__: is taht all it says?18:46
ActionParsnipmicah__: not a broadcom or anything like that18:46
s5fsI'm running 12.04, but I don't have an /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf file. Where would my wifi config file be located?18:46
CQNanyone here familiar with mozc on xubuntu?18:47
bazhangCQN, whats the real question18:48
CQNwhen i convert text from kana to kanji, it's rendering some kanji using hanzi/hanja fonts18:48
ActionParsnipmicah__: or run:  lspci    it should name a chip there18:48
hsnmckHello. I have a file that uses Steganography to hide a message in a text by adding extra whitespaces at the end of the lines. Here is the  original file http://classics.mit.edu/Homer/iliad.mb.txt and here is the modified file http://lacalsrv6.epfl.ch/iliad.txt . I can see the18:48
hsnmck:b218:49
bazhangibus-mozc  <---- did you mean that CQN18:49
CQNthe only place it doesn't happen are japanese websites, probably due to encoding18:49
CQNbazhang: yeah18:49
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CQNbazhang: http://i.imgur.com/ajqz5.png18:49
sabeli am having the most difficult time installing wine..i keep getting hung up on dependancies anyone know how to work around or fix this?18:50
CQNnotice how 神's left radical is rendered differently based on whether i'm on google.com or google.co.jp18:50
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bazhangCQN, thats a firefox conflict with ibus18:50
gordonjcpsabel: how are you installing it?18:50
CQNbazhang: i'm also getting the incorrect one (google.com) in other software, like leafpad18:50
sabelthrough the software center18:50
CQNand in the terminal18:51
gordonjcpsabel: pastebin the exact error you're getting18:51
sabelhow do i message specifically you like you are to me?18:51
sabelThis error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.18:52
sabelis the error18:52
bazhangsabel, type the first two or three letters, then hit <tab> key18:52
ActionParsnipsabel: type a bit of the nick and hit TAB to autocomplete it. The name will highlight for who you address18:52
sabelgordonjcp: This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.18:52
sabelgordonjcp:18:52
sabelgordonjcp: wine1.4: PreDepends: dpkg (>= 1.15.7.2~) but 1.16.1.2ubuntu7 is to be installed          Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14) but 2.15-0ubuntu10.2 is to be installed          Depends: wine1.4-amd64 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3) but 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3 is to be installed          Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3) but it is a virtual package18:52
ActionParsnipsabel: http://techhelplist.com/index.php/tech-tutorials/43-linux-adventures/86-ubuntu-1204-and-percona-toolkit-dependencies-error18:54
bazhangsabel, you have a PPA there18:54
sabelbazhang: i'm not sure what you mean18:54
bazhangsabel, an outside software source that You added18:54
sabelbazhang: i still don't quite get it...im very new. All i did was use the software manager and attempt to install wine.18:55
FloodBot1!netsplit18:56
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit18:56
duanedes1gnscp command to transfer from VPS to local box?18:59
EaglemanWhat do you suggest for making backups ( synchronising specific files and folders ONE way  Ubuntu>external disk/samba share ) ?18:59
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prashant_123456facing ubuntu bug top and bottom panel dont disapper when viewing fullscreen video (ubuntu classic, not using compiz )19:01
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EaglemanWhat do you suggest for making backups ( synchronising specific files and folders ONE way  Ubuntu>external disk/samba share ) ?19:02
MestreLioncan someone help me troubleshoot HDMI sound output via discrete ATI video card using catalyst? lspci | grep Audio shows both the onboard and the video card sound devices, but aplay -l shows only the onboard one. Any directions?19:02
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MestreLioncan someone help me troubleshoot HDMI sound output via discrete ATI video card using catalyst? lspci | grep Audio shows both the onboard and the video card sound devices, but aplay -l shows only the onboard one. Any directions?19:03
bazhangMestreLion, no need to repeat so quickly19:03
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MestreLionsorry bazhang , I noticed we were on netsplit, so I wasnt sure if my lines were sent19:04
pjotrhi... I am a windows user that wants to install ubuntu 12.04... I am in the middle of the process now, and I am using the alternate installer, using recommended way to make bootable usb, install boots up, I select language, keyboard, but then it fails at "cannot mount cdrom", how come?19:04
benth2hi i was wondering how running Zeitgiest helps me19:04
prashant_123456MestreLion, any help ?19:04
ActionParsnipbenth2: gets you to the most used apps faster19:04
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benth2ActionParsnip: how so?19:04
prashant_123456 ActionParsnip any idea of my bug19:05
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ActionParsnipbenth2: you click dash, there they are19:05
pjotrI thought that using the usb should not require cdrom, but I guess this might be some internals how the usb installer works?19:05
benth2oh okay. well i don't use unity so i guess i'll remove zeitgeist19:05
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MestreLionpjotr: do you need the alternate installer for any particular reason? usually the normal installer handles usb just fine19:06
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prashant_123456facing ubuntu bug top and bottom panel dont disapper when viewing fullscreen video (ubuntu classic, not using compiz )19:06
pjotrMestreLion: I need encryption, and on 12.04 that is the only way...19:06
chung-chyuhow to install nvidia GT610 drivers for ubuntu 10.04 ?19:06
Eagleman!10.0419:07
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)19:07
OerHeksprashant_123456, full screen shows no panel, that is no bug.19:07
MestreLionpjotr: for *full hd* encryption, yes... but you can encrypt just your home folder, which is for most cases just enough. besides, full hdd encryption will prevent you from using windows19:07
benth2i don't want ubuntu-geoip running but i want to keep my datetime indicator. is that possible?19:07
prashant_123456OerHeks, on viewing fullscreen videos top and bottom panels always shows19:08
pjotrMestreLion: I need full disk encryption, no other options in my work, otherwise my client would not allow me to work for them :)19:08
trismbenth2: install geoclue-manual and then remove geoclue-ubuntu-geoip19:08
pjotrMestreLion: and I want to throw away Windows...19:08
OerHeksprashant_123456, no ti doesn't in full screen. try maximize screen, then you would have panels.19:09
pjotrjust assume alternate image on usb is only possible way, because it is :) I have no cdrom, and only usb boot available...19:09
MestreLionpjotr: have tou tried using an actual cd? maybe alternate installer can't handle usb (wild guess here)19:09
benth2trism: thank you19:09
EaglemanWhat do you suggest for making Incremental backups with compression ( synchronising specific files and folders ONE way  Ubuntu>external disk/samba share ) ?19:09
pjotrMestreLion: I do not have a cdrom :(19:09
prashant_123456OerHeks, in simple terms cant view fullscreen youtube videos19:10
pjotrI tried 10.04 alternate ones before in life, and that was supporting usb...19:10
prashant_123456 OerHeks top and bottom panels dont disapper they are alwasy there19:10
pjotrbut I must be able to make a hack, meaning mount the usb as /cdrom, no?19:10
MestreLionI never used alternate, so I can't help. maybe google for any issues regarding 12.04's alternate and usb?19:10
pjotrgoogled around, can only find posts regarding old ubuntus (7ish)...19:11
pjotrsomeone here who managed to install Ubuntu 12.04 from alternate image with a usb stick?19:11
prashant_123456OerHeks, any idea19:11
OerHeksprashant_123456, oh, dont disappear, try F11 = full screen ?19:12
prashant_123456OerHeks, yes i have tried that also its a bug19:12
OerHeksIdleOne, capital Q19:12
fakixlixHOlaaaa alguien habla español??19:13
Eagleman!es19:14
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.19:14
fakixlixGracias19:14
prashant_123456OerHeks, bug Bug #97743819:14
EaglemanWhat do you suggest for making Incremental backups with compression ( synchronising specific files and folders ONE way  Ubuntu>external disk/samba share ) ?19:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 976032 in compiz (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #977438 Place plugin problem with panel in fullscreen and gnome classic" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97603219:14
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JuJuBeeIm having trouble upgrading a computer to 12.10 in regards to network cards.  I have 3 cards but 12.10 only configures 2 of them.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208473519:18
JuJuBeeCan someone take a look and offer advice?19:18
pjotrbyebye...19:18
superbbbhi19:18
superbbbi've a problem with installation of lubuntu19:19
Eagleman!lubuntu19:19
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.19:19
gordonjcp!ask | superbbb19:19
ubottusuperbbb: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:19
MonkeyDustsuperbbb  let's hear it19:20
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superbbbi've a acer 3634wlmi, with no hd19:21
simplewi have installed plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo and runned 'sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth' and changed to use ubuntu boot theme, but when rebooting it did not appeared with ubuntu theme, any help?19:21
gordonjcpsuperbbb: no hd would cause you problems right enough19:22
bazhangwhat version of ubuntu simplew19:22
superbbblubuntu 12.1019:22
OerHekssimplew, did you perform "sudo update-initramfs -u " after that ?19:22
OerHeks!plymouth19:22
ubottuPlymouth manages the Ubuntu boot process (before the root filesystem is mounted) and also provides a graphical boot animation.  To change your Plymouth theme use « sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u »19:22
MonkeyDustsuperbbb  what's the problem exactly19:23
simplewOerHeks: ok19:23
superbbbi want to install lubu with usb, in acer 3634wlmi with no hd, in the setup page, when i click install the screen become black19:24
bazhangsuperbbb, from usb to what?19:24
prashant_123456bug #977438  but i dont use compiz , solutions please and i love ubuntu and dont want to switch to another distro please anyone can solve my problem19:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 976032 in compiz (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #977438 Place plugin problem with panel in fullscreen and gnome classic" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97603219:24
superbbbi use 2 usb19:25
MonkeyDustsuperbbb  a persistent install on usb?19:25
bazhangsuperbbb, why not just make the first one persistent?19:25
superbbbMonkeyDust i want install it on usb19:25
superbbbsorry for my english19:25
MestreLionguys, regarding my HDMI audio issue, I've found this: sudo lshw -C multimedia gives *-multimedia UNCLAIMED . Any way to "claim" it? I can see the device in lspci | grep Audio, but not in aplay -l. Directions please?19:25
MonkeyDustsuperbbb  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent19:25
superbbbone moment i have to lunch19:26
kevoCan someone help me please?19:26
superbbbMonkeyDust i 've problem with sys video driver19:26
bazhangkevo, with what?19:26
kevoHaving a ton of trouble with Nvidia GTX 670 on Ubuntu 12.1019:27
prashant_123456bazhang, can u solve my problem19:27
kevobazhang, for some reason my drivers are not working properly. I never had this issue before. I'm getting a very tiny resolution and cannot resolve.19:27
OerHeksprashant_123456, did you try the fix as mentioned in #21 ?19:28
bazhangkevo, what drivers do you have installed, what resolution do you currently have, what resolution do you wish to see19:28
prashant_123456OerHeks, please tell me where to see for solution19:28
bazhangprashant_123456, in your bug report19:28
kevoOk I have 310.19 drivers installed, I have a 1024x768 resolution, and I want to see 1920x108019:29
prashant_123456 bazhang i dont have bug report19:29
OerHeksprashant_123456, see your url, answer #21, enable precise-proposed repo19:29
bazhangprashant_123456, you gave us a bug report19:29
peccyo, my sound disappears at random, connect/reconnect dock helps but only until for a few minutes if even that (audio jack is in dock)19:29
prashant_123456bazhang, ok but i see19:29
prashant_123456bazhang, dont know what to do please tell me19:29
bazhangprashant_123456, OerHeks just told you19:30
kevoI've used LinuxMint 14 perfectly for my drivers and they worked exactly as they should, Ubuntu 12.10 gives me this problem all the time. I did fresh installs of OS numerous times.19:30
prashant_123456bazhang, not getting any point of you sorry for that19:30
bazhang<OerHeks> prashant_123456, see your url, answer #21, enable precise-proposed repo19:30
bazhangprashant_123456, see above19:31
prashant_123456 bazhang  ok see above ok19:31
ClientAliveI installed ubuntu server because I didn't want to deal with all the default stuff that cones with ubuntu desktop. Now I want a better (high performance) kernel. I don't really want to deal with configuring a kernel myself - that just sucks. What is the easiest way to get a different kernel and what am I facing in regard to updates if I do?19:31
kevobazhang, any ideas?19:31
OpenSorceBeen dreading this, new kernel time. Now I get to fight with my Nvidia drivers again :-P19:31
OerHeksprashant_123456, open software centre, edit , sources, enable precise-proposed, close it, and run updates19:31
bazhangClientAlive, the real time kernel? what do you mean by "high performance", for what exactly19:32
kevoOpenSorce, I think that might be my problem is kernel. Is that why my Nvidia drivers are not working properly?19:32
prashant_123456OerHeks, ok19:32
OpenSorcekevo, not sure. What is it doing/not doing?19:32
Guest83861hey please help me19:33
kevoMy monitor is saying it's a laptop screen and outputting low resolutions and not the correct ones.19:33
MonkeyDustGuest83861  start with a question19:33
OpenSorcekevo, that's odd. Are they the drivers from the repos or did you manually install it?19:33
rosevphello - can someone help me connect remotely to xdm19:33
rosevphave ubuntu configured but getting xdm errors19:34
kevoOpenSorce, It's just not working at all. Like the GPU is detected but it's displaying my monitor as a laptop and not my regular 23" 1080P monitor. Can't change any of my resolutions. I get errors during startup of OS.19:34
ClientAlivebazhang: I seem to have some sort of I/O problem. My mouse pointer freezes (and this is a newer desktop with plenty of ram - 16 gig and a fast processor). I thought I would try getting a different kernel to see if it fixes the issue. I want to start adding things like compiz and am worried about the problem getting worse.19:34
softcoderhi, using ubu 12.10 nvidia properitary driver (but also seen on another system using latest ubu 12.04 using amd cataylst)... screen resolution randonly changes and i have to go to video card settings to re-adjust19:34
OpenSorcekevo, take a look at my last question19:34
softcoderis this a known issue?19:34
softcoderfor the 12.10 system this happens multiple times every day19:35
kevoOpenSorce, drivers from repos. Did simple apt-get install nvidia-current.19:35
ClientAlivebazhang: *problem 'would' get worse (wtih compiz installed).19:35
kevo310.19 drivers19:35
kevoI'm running HDMI to monitor.19:35
softcodercan anyone help?19:35
prashant_123456OerHeks, ok updating19:35
rosevpgetting the following errors Starting X server on 192.168.1.6:019:35
deadmundClientAlive: mouse = wireless bluetooth mouse?19:35
rosevpFri Nov 30 09:58:10 2012 xdm error (pid 12421): Hung in XOpenDisplay(192.168.1.6:0), aborting19:35
rosevpFri Nov 30 09:58:10 2012 xdm error (pid 12421): server open failed for 192.168.1.6:0, giving up19:35
rosevpHung in XOpenDisplay(192.168.1.6:0), aborting19:36
rosevpFri Nov 30 09:58:10 2012 xdm error (pid 12421): server open failed for 192.168.1.6:0, giving up19:36
prashant_123456OerHeks, ok done with update19:36
ClientAlivebazhang: I don't think it's bluetooth but it is wireless19:36
prashant_123456OerHeks, now what can i check my video again ?19:36
kevoOpenSorce, I'm on 310.19 drivers. I was running LinuxMint 14 yesterday and installed the drivers the same way and worked perfectly both video and audio, but with Ubuntu 12.10 I get this problem.19:36
OpenSorcekevo, cool. I had random issues with that driver and went with ones from Nvidia's website. There are some guys in #nvidia who can be pretty helpful with that19:36
kevoOpenSorce, thanks bro will check them out.19:37
OpenSorcekevo no problem, I'm sure you'll get it straightened out19:37
prashant_123456bazhang, done with update19:37
OerHeksprashant_123456, yes, if the fix works, you can leave a message @ that bugreport19:38
prashant_123456OerHeks, let me check please and then i will tell u19:38
prashant_123456OerHeks, bazhang thanks19:38
peccyo, my sound disappears at random, connect/reconnect dock helps but only until for a few minutes if even that (audio jack is in dock)19:39
peccrunning Quantal19:40
prashant_123456OerHeks, bazhang still having the problem19:40
MonkeyDustpecc  does it also happen without the dock?19:40
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peccMonkeyDust, I haven't tried... will be back soon (cannot keep connection up without dock)19:41
OpenSorceDoes anyone else find Unity ugly and a bit sluggish?19:42
MonkeyDustOpenSorce  wrong channel for that question19:42
pndemcOpenSorce, not the place.19:42
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bazhangOpenSorce, did you wish to troubleshoot? or just poll19:43
OpenSorcelollko, sorry19:43
ClientAlivebazhang: stupidest thing on the planet! <- there was some stuff dried on the bottom of the little pads on the bottom of the mouse. I think it was coffee (with cream and sugar of course - ha ha). I don't know if that was the issue or not but I'm gonna go ahead and install compiz and see if the problem comes up again later. If it does I'll deal with it then.19:43
ClientAliveths :)19:43
OpenSorceWhat is the channel? #ubuntu-offtopic?19:43
ClientAlivethx19:44
FloodBot1ClientAlive: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:44
superbbbhi MonkeyDustin the guide there is: Several video drivers are not functioning with some legacy chip-sets19:44
grimetonhow can one shutdown 12.10 ?19:44
superbbbmy video driver is sys 661mx19:44
grimetondo i have to pray for it to be shutdown or will the power button start working again ?19:45
ClientAlivehay fooldbot (thought you be a computer program) SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY DAG NABIT!19:45
TheLordOfTimeClientAlive, please move this out of #ubuntu, thanks.19:45
theflash397 !!19:45
theflash397hello evry body19:45
deadmundgrimeton: sudo shutdown -h now ??19:45
ClientAliveTheLordOfTime: move what?19:45
grimetondeadmund: i'm talking about the shutdown option in the upper right19:46
ClientAliveasking about a kernel? or asking about i/o issues.19:46
rosevpcan someone help me with my xdm issue?19:46
rosevpis this the correct channel to ask xdm questions?19:46
TheLordOfTimeClientAlive, your yelling at the bot.19:46
ClientAliveon an ubuntu 12.04 system19:46
deadmundgrimeton: Oh, IDK :P19:46
theflash397what are you doing ?19:46
ClientAlivecalm down and let people be people for once19:46
psychopathicDid you know what the sun of god is doing. He travels in a box out a square and through a tree.19:47
TheLordOfTime!offtopic | psychopathic19:47
ubottupsychopathic: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:47
TheLordOfTimepsychopathic, do you an actual support question?19:48
yhushaworking on editing an iso and theres some issues heres the pastebin its relatively short   http://pastebin.com/xjdYvhgZ19:49
yhushamaybe somebody might see whats going on.. with it19:49
deadmundyhusha: You're just making typos and not using correct paths.19:50
yhushahmm19:50
deadmundyhusha: As your a beginner, always use full path names.  Also, use the tab key to autocomplete what you're typing.19:50
superbbbLogin screen just flickers on screen then screen goes blank before login screen flickers back on and of for ever more.19:50
superbbbwhat can i do?19:51
superbbbi've a sys 661mmx19:51
superbbbit's a acer 3634wlmi19:51
ddilingerrandom question ... is it possible to downgrade an ubuntu box from 12.10 to 12.04LTS?  or does it have to be re-installed19:51
bekksddilinger: You have to reinstall.19:52
ddilingerk, thats what i figured19:52
OerHekssuperbbb, you have problem with SiS videodriver?19:53
theflash397what are you donig ?19:53
yhushayes the tab done that a few times there was a typo that was fixed where were the others besides the double i in cd: /home/yhusha/livecdtmp19:53
danfgi have a question regarding the find command, in the -exec part, it substitutes {} for names like '../path//file', how do i get rid of the double slash, or how do i get only the filename, not the path?19:54
* malkauns wonders if he can go a day without a unity crash19:54
OpenSorcedanfg, have you tried man find?19:55
danfgOpenSorce: i have, do you know of any commands in there i should use?19:55
superbbbyes OerHeks19:55
MonkeyDustdanfg  the first slash is to indicate that the second is a character, not a symbol -- it's called a regular expression19:55
ddilingerdanfg: well, look at the end of the description for -exec19:56
ddilingerdanfg: and you will have your answer19:56
ddilingerdanfg: quoting the man page " you should use the -execdir option instead", and for -execdir:  ike  -exec,  but  the specified command is run from the subdirectory containing the matched file19:57
OerHekssuperbbb, i think i have bad news, SiS is not well supported in linux.19:57
ddilingerdanfg: end result, it will only be the filename19:57
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danfgddilinger: hmm ok, it's a workaround19:58
yhushamkdir ~/livecdtmp this command failed to create the specified directory19:58
yhushaor does directory in this scenario mean file19:59
OerHekssuperbbb try the vesa driver, when booting the usb, at the point install/try live, choose with F6 vesa ( if i recall correct)19:59
bazhangyhusha, on a live cd?19:59
kevoOkay maybe someone can help me with my driver problem. When I run nvidia-settings in terminal, I get a error saying "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run ' nvidia-xconfig' as root), and restart the X server."20:00
yhushathis is being done on a hdd install20:00
yhushaaready installed20:00
yhushaoperating on an iso from ubuntu.com20:01
yhushathe system this is being done on is also the same as the iso file20:01
zykotick9kevo: run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" which will generate a xorg.conf for you.  then restart Xorg.20:01
kevozykotic9, how do I restart Xorg?20:02
yhushatesting this tutorial but it seems theres some errs >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization20:03
kevozykotic9, command?20:03
santiagoHello everyone20:03
zykotick9kevo: "sudo service lightdm restart" myabe?  not sure.20:03
CitillaraHello, anyone knows how can I download the public certificate of a remote server in bash ?20:03
newbiehelphi20:04
newbiehelpi an newbie i need help20:04
newbiehelphi i need help for sound issue20:05
yhushaand for a command like this, sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso mnt  does the iso have to be in a specific place noticed it wont find it in downloads  by it self but it finds it in /home20:06
newbiehelpplease talk too me if your good with linux20:06
newbiehelphello20:07
newbiehelpanyone there?20:07
yhushathat happens some times20:07
yhushajust type more details about the audio issue20:08
rosevpis the correct place to ask a xdm question?20:08
newbiehelpok i will type the detail20:08
zykotick9rosevp: why on earth are you usind xdm?  is it 1994 again?20:08
newbiehelpi have pulse audio when i go too configuration there is no sound card20:08
newbiehelpand when i open gmome alsa there is nothing exect a grey screen20:09
yhushacheck proprietory drivers list20:09
newbiehelpand with all that sound dont work20:09
newbiehelpthere is no driver listed20:09
yhushafresh installl20:09
newbiehelpyup i have done it20:09
yhushadone updates yet?20:09
newbiehelpyup20:09
lallaidentify lalla nadeesh20:09
newbiehelphow i do that?20:10
yhushaterminal20:10
newbiehelpok20:10
lallaidentify nadeesh lalla20:10
newbiehelpidentify nadeesh lalla20:10
newbiehelpdentify: unable to open image `nadeesh':  @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2489. identify: unable to open image `lalla':  @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2489.20:10
yhushasudo apt-get update20:10
ajpi'm trying to write a bash script to resize PDFs after they are scanned (using ghost script) and after resizing i lose the last %25 of the file. It's just white halfway down the page. Can anyone suggest something I can do?20:10
zykotick9lalla: fail x2.  change your password ;)  you need a / at the beginning, and shouldn't do that in a channel.20:11
bobweaver!latex | ajp  ?20:11
ubottuajp  ?: tex is a language for describing a document, commonly used especially for scientific publishing. Information and instructions for installing TeX and other related packages can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaTeX20:11
newbiehelpdone20:12
newbiehelpupdate done20:12
newbiehelpyhusha20:13
yhushacheck the audio20:13
yhushaif nothing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting20:13
ajpbobweaver: i know what latex is, I don't need it. I'm just trying to resize PDFs using ghostscript from the command line so it can be bash scripted20:13
bobweaverajp,  can we see script ?20:14
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ajpbobweaver: sure pm me20:14
rosevpgetting the following from xdm - xdm error Hung in XOpenDisplay(192.168.1.6:0), aborting20:14
bobweaver /msg ajp,  no pastebin ?20:14
bobweaverer20:14
newbiehelpno sound card found20:15
yhushacheck the tutorial it should fix it20:15
yhushahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting20:16
newbiehelpsudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic20:16
bobweavernewbiehelp,  you have tried the command              aplay -l   ?20:16
newbiehelpsudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic20:16
newbiehelpi tryed a play20:16
newbiehelpsudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package linux-restricted-modules-3.0.0-12-generic E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-restricted-modules-3.0.0-12-generic'20:17
newbiehelpany help please20:18
newbiehelpthis is the code i get from the commandsudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic20:18
lallaexit20:18
bobweavernewbiehelp,  what is output of uname -r ?20:18
ajpmy PDF gs script: http://pastebin.com/aWQ2WB9v20:18
ajpneed helps20:18
newbiehelpwhat you mean bob?20:18
bobweavernewbiehelp,  type it into the terminal        uname -r20:18
bekksnewbiehelp: "uname -r" is a command, and it will produce some output.20:19
newbiehelp3.0.0-12-generic20:19
robottinosinoI can't get texlive-base to install in any way: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1400458/20:19
BlackScreenHi. My colleague has tried installing Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu Secure Remix, Ubuntu Alternate, and Ubuntu Desktop. Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Secure Remix black screen during install. Ubuntu server/alternate complete the install but when the computer boots and shift is held, it says 'loading grub' then goes to black screen.20:20
BlackScreendoes anybody know how we would proceed?20:20
genii-aroundnewbiehelp: Use linux-image-extra      instead of linux-restricted-modules           and you may need ubuntu-restricted-extras20:20
bekks!nomodeset | BlackScreen20:20
ubottuBlackScreen: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:20
robottinosinoIt appears quite  a few people are having the same problem as me (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1400458/) do you think that's a fair claim?20:20
newbiehelpgenii what you mean?20:20
newbiehelpgenni be clear i am not good20:20
BlackScreenubottu: I already said that we cannot boot into grub even if shift is held20:21
ubottuBlackScreen: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:21
BlackScreenoh20:21
BlackScreenheh20:21
BlackScreenwrong person20:22
BlackScreenbekks: see above20:22
bobweavernewbiehelp,  what happens when you type this into the terminal "software-properties-gtk"      then click on other tab is all the independent and partners clicked ?20:22
McManiaChey, how can you hide avatars in empathy/get a more compact view of your contact list?20:23
genii-aroundnewbiehelp: eg: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-image-extra-$(uname -r) ubuntu-restricted-extras20:23
rosevpcan't connect to xdm remotely20:23
BlackScreenso how am i supposed to use nomodeset if it doesnt even go into grub?20:23
ugoggggggg20:23
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newbiehelpsoftware-properties-gtk20:23
bekksrosevp: Thats intended, since you have to enable that security relevant hole before being able to access it remotely.20:24
bobweavernewbiehelp,  look at this screen shot   http://imagebin.org/23772020:24
newbiehelpi am looking20:24
robottinosinoMaybe I am lacking experience on this channel… but what would be a good strategy to interest some experts and recruit some help? Just ask and wait?20:24
newbiehelpgenni i am doing the command20:25
bekksrobottinosino: Yes.20:25
robottinosinobekks: Alright.20:25
newbiehelpgenii20:25
newbiehelpE: Unable to locate package linux-image-extra-3.0.0-12-generic E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-extra-3.0.0-12-generic'20:25
McManiaChow can you hide avatars in empathy/get a more compact view of your contact list?20:25
newbiehelpbob what do i do when im on the right tab20:26
kostkonMcManiaC, view → compact size?20:26
BlackScreenbekks: did you see my question?20:26
kostkonMcManiaC, at least in 10.0420:27
McManiaCkostkon: where is this "view" menu?20:27
bobweaverrobotfuel_,  what are deps of texlive-luatex   ? apt-cache show texlive-luatex   then look at depends line and make sure that they are installed there is some dep in there that is messing it up20:27
kostkonMcManiaC, in your panel20:27
newbiehelpbob weaver ?20:27
bobweavernewbiehelp,  make sure that they are checked like screen shot I sent you20:27
dr_willisrosevp:  remotely how exactly? xdmcp is turned off by default for security reasons20:27
kostkonMcManiaC, where the global menu is20:27
peccMonkeyDust, I'm back. Without the dock Spotify ran faultlessly for ~40 min straight (it pauses on its own when the sound fails) -- what now?20:27
bekksBlackScreen: Where did you install grub to, while installing? /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 ?20:28
yhushaany idea why this is happening: sudo mount -o looP ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso mnt20:28
yhusha[sudo] password for yhusha:20:28
yhushamount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,20:28
yhusha       missing codepage or helper program, or other error20:28
yhusha       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try20:28
yhusha       dmesg | tail  or so20:28
FloodBot1yhusha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:28
McManiaCkostkon: i only got a "empathy" menu there20:28
genii-aroundnewbiehelp: You need to enable additional repositories then in the Software Center20:28
cousin_luigiGreetings.20:28
kostkonMcManiaC, hmm20:28
newbiehelpgenii ok what i do,? and BOB i dont have the same patern many link miss20:29
cousin_luigiIs there a place other than /etc/environment to declare global variables?20:29
yhushaany idea why this is happening http://pastebin.com/cUNhwJLD20:29
robottinosinoAs I patiently wait.. is there a better forum to ask about apt-get install problems? Maybe an aptitude channel? For Mac Ports, there is a channel just for packaging… I am only asking because I think my problem might be common to many users..20:30
bobweavercousin_luigi,  can you be more detailed ?20:30
kostkonMcManiaC, do you mean the tray icon? are you using unity or somwthing else20:30
bobweaver!motu | robottinosino20:30
ubotturobottinosino: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU20:30
McManiaCkostkon: standard unity, just installed ubuntu earlier20:30
kostkonMcManiaC, 12.10?20:31
McManiaCkostkon: yup20:31
AelingilIn Ubuntu 12.04 (LTS) Is there any way when you click on [Dash] you Default to the "Installed Application" instead of the "Home" Lens?20:31
newbiehelpno sound card on pulse audio i have been searching for about 4 hours since today too fix it20:31
bobweaverAelingil,  press Super+a20:31
yhushaand then theres this: /livecdtmp$ sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso mnt20:31
yhushamount: warning: mnt seems to be mounted read-only.20:31
cousin_luigibobweaver: I need to define an environment variable and for now I've set it in /etc/environment, but it doesn't look like a particularly clean solution. Could it be done otherwise?20:31
newbiehelpso i need help im really tired of looking alone20:31
xanguaAelingil: Super+a20:31
bekksyhusha: Thats intended for a CD image.20:31
kostkonMcManiaC, hmm ok, i think empathy in 12.10 comes with much less available options.20:32
xanguaAelingil: if you keep super pressed you can see all unity shorcuts20:32
yhushaye thats the idea20:32
bobweavercousin_luigi,  say I wanted to set up my email and what not for bzr I would add that to bashrc20:32
yhushato extract it this is nessarry20:32
ClientAlivewhat up bobweaver?20:32
newbiehelp-whois genni-around what are the url i need to add?20:32
yhushanecessary20:32
bobweaverHey there brother ClientAlive  how you doing ?20:33
EaglemanWill this work with include and exclude files with rsync/rsnapshot  http://pastebin.com/JiA5pT8B  ?20:33
cousin_luigibobweaver: But then it would be available only for applications started from bash, wouldn't it?20:33
McManiaCkostkon: there is no "empathy-full" package or something, is there?20:33
bobweaver+20:33
newbiehelpgenni-around -whois  what are the url i need too add20:33
ClientAlivebobweaver: not too bad20:33
yhushawill it not work with a .iso download20:33
bobweavercousin_luigi, what is .profile used for ?20:33
newbiehelpfirst how do i whisper someone?20:33
kostkonMcManiaC, don't think there is20:33
cousin_luigibobweaver: Your guess is as good as mine.20:33
bobweavercousin_luigi,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables20:34
Aelingilxangua, bobweaver, thank you.. i didnt even think to look for a keyboard shortcut yet.. I was already into Dconf and looking to "reorganize" the order of Dash..20:34
newbiehelphow do i whisper someone ?20:34
visofhello20:34
visofhi20:34
bobweaverAelingil,  press and hold super to see menu options20:34
bekksnewbiehelp: By asking before, wether he/she wants that, and then using "/msg nickname hello"20:34
visofhowto build rpm package in ubuntu ?20:34
AelingilI can switch App/doc/music but not home.. :)20:34
bobweaverAelingil,  which you can chang btw ;)20:34
cousin_luigibobweaver: So /etc/environment it is.20:35
bobweavervisof,  talk to redhat or fedora or who ever20:35
McManiaCkostkon: that sucks :/20:35
cousin_luigibbl20:35
visofbobweaver: what is the tool i should install in ubuntu to do that ?20:35
bobweaverthere is not *good * tool to do that20:36
bobweaverbut20:36
b0otHow do I get the GD/GD2 extension?20:36
bobweaver!info alen | visof20:36
ubottuvisof: Package alen does not exist in quantal20:36
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BlackScreenbekks: my colleague is saying it defaults to MBR, and /dev/sda20:36
newbiehelpuse /msg [genii-around] please help me geniie20:36
newbiehelpgeniie-around /msg newbiehelp what do i have to do?20:37
bobweaver!pm | newbiehelp20:38
ubottunewbiehelp: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.20:38
bekksnewbiehelp: "/msg someothernicknamethanyours hello"20:38
bobweaver!info alien | visof I would NEVER EVER use this20:38
ubottuvisof I would NEVER EVER use this: alien (source: alien): convert and install rpm and other packages. In component main, is optional. Version 8.88 (quantal), package size 56 kB, installed size 209 kB20:38
newbiehelp !pm | bobweaver so pleaxs bob20:38
ubottubobweaver so pleaxs bob: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.20:38
bazhangnewbiehelp, just ask the channel20:38
newbiehelpok i have no sound card detected by pulse audio20:39
bobweaversorry newbiehelp  but I have a million things going On I can not devote time just to you.  that is not fair to everyone else20:39
newbiehelpi understand take your time20:39
bazhangnewbiehelp, using what exactly to check that. tell us the exact method you are checking that20:40
bobweavernewbiehelp,  did you check of the software sources that I sent you a picture of ?>20:40
newbiehelpok i click on sound panel ok?, then i got no device listed20:40
genii-aroundnewbiehelp: Apologies, but I have not enough time away from work right now to properly assist20:40
BlackScreenso basically it should be installing grub to MBR and /dev/sda20:40
newbiehelpbobwearver yes it does20:40
BlackScreenbut somehow i think it's not installing properly20:40
bazhangnewbiehelp, you checked in pavucontrol?20:41
bobweavernewbiehelp,  and you have then updated after words ?20:41
bobweavergood idea bazhang20:41
newbiehelpnop i will update20:41
bazhangnewbiehelp, what version of UB UNTU is this20:41
newbiehelpi checked pavu20:41
newbiehelplinux mint20:42
bazhangnewbiehelp, thats not supported here20:42
newbiehelpbut my uncle told me this site work better for help20:42
newbiehelpbecause the command are same20:42
bazhanghe told you wrong20:42
bazhang!mintsupport | newbiehelp20:42
ubottunewbiehelp: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org20:42
ajpanyone here versed in ghostscript's pdfwrite functionality?20:42
newbiehelp !mintsupport20:42
newbiehelpso i have no sound device and alsa gnome dont work20:43
bazhangnewbiehelp, join that server. we wont support MINT here20:43
newbiehelpwhere can i joint?20:43
TheLordOfTimenewbiehelp, MINT support is offtopic here.  Their support is on irc.spotchat.org in #linuxmint-help20:43
newbiehelpthanks sorry20:43
dr_willisask the mint guys why they dont set their disrtos irc clients to default to the mint channel. ;)20:44
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bekksdr_willis: They know why ;)20:44
ajpanyone here versed in ghostscript's pdfwrite functionality? trying to get this script working properly http://pastebin.com/aWQ2WB9v20:44
bazhanghttp://milan.kupcevic.net/ghostscript-ps-pdf/   ajp such as this?20:45
ignarpsIf I pay for support from canonical,  does using custom ppa's void that support?20:45
dr_willisIm not really sure what actual paid suppport does. ;)20:45
bobweaverignarps,  ask you Ubuntu advantage number20:45
bazhangignarps, good question; contact them and ask?20:46
bobweaveryour Ubuntu Advantage person20:46
kostkonignarps, +1 for asking them20:46
ignarpsI don't pay for support.  Was curious if anyone had asked this20:46
RenardHello! Grub question: when the system is halted improperly, the set GRUB timeout is disabled and GRUB waits for an user input. Is it possible to force the timeout to be always on?20:46
dr_willisRenard:  you mean have it wait forever? thats doable i recall20:46
ajpbazhang: yeah but when my PDF comes out the back end it's missing pars as though it didn't load %25 of the page20:46
ajpparts*20:47
bobweaverignarps,  I know that some that have Ubuntu Advantage def have there own repo20:47
RenardNo, never wait. Still boot.20:47
bazhangajp, so that page has some of the commands you are using?20:47
superbbbhey guys can i Downgraded xorg on lubuntu 12.10 on the usb?20:47
ajpbazhang: yeah20:47
dr_willissuperbbb:  why do you need to downgrade?20:47
bazhangsuperbbb, why would you do that? is this a live usb or a persistent install20:47
RenardTurns out my USB keyboard doesn't work at the GRUB stage during boot, so I can't input anything here. Have to wait for the OS. I don't want to solve this issue, just go around it (easier for the end user)20:48
peccmy audio dies randomly when connected to dock, disconnect/reconnect helps every time but only until the next time, audio worked 40 min perfectly when disconnected from dock, after reconnecting failed in 10 min20:48
ajpbazhang: particularly -dPDFSETTINGS=/screen20:48
ajpbazhang: http://pastebin.com/aWQ2WB9v20:48
dr_willisRenard:  ive see that issue fixed by using the legacy usb support option in the bios   it may be called differnt things on some machines20:49
g0rsanybody configured ipv6 by connecting to a ipv6 address in xp?20:49
bobweaverg0rs,  what is xp  ?20:49
bazhangg0rs, xp? in #ubuntu ?20:49
dr_willisXPbuntu ;)20:49
Renarddr_willis, thanks, but I'd rather have the user not have any input at that stage anyway :p20:50
g0rsbobweaver: I'm trying to setup a ipv6 tunnel over ipv4 using a tunnel broker20:50
bobweaverlol dr_willis20:50
ConGiun:D20:50
ajpRenard: you can change the timeout period for grub in the config file20:50
dr_willisRenard:  you can hide the grub menu so they dont even see it20:50
bazhangg0rs, ##windows for xp20:50
RenardI just want the computer to resume booting on its default GRUB option even if it hadn't been properly halted20:50
ConGiun#ubuntu20:50
dr_willisive never noticed grub acting differntly if the pc crashed20:50
g0rsbazhang: thanks20:51
RenardIt waits for the user input20:51
dr_williswaits for what input exactly?20:51
RenardSelect a line using the keyboard (so you can select a recovery mode or another kernel, if you wanted to)20:51
dr_williscant say ive ever seen it do that.20:53
dr_willisid bet theres a grub setting to have it not do it. ;)20:53
dr_willisgrub has moer settings then you can shake an OS at..20:53
ajpin grub config you can change the timeout to 1 second20:54
RenardYeah but no20:54
genii-aroundRenard: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Timed_Display        edit the /etc/default/grub file then do: sudo update-grub20:55
RenardAlready got a timer20:55
BlackScreenHello. My colleague has installed Ubuntu Alternate choosing to put grub on /dev/sda, but upon boot he gets a black screen after holding shift to see 'loading grub'20:57
genii-aroundRenard: Near that section of documentation is also the values within that file to hide the grub menu, and other settings.20:57
RenardBut this doesn't change the "failure" behavior20:58
genii-aroundRenard: Obviously you didn't look at the documentation in the section just under the section I gave entitled "Last Boot Failed or Boot into Recovery Mode"21:00
penkhi folks, i need to create a bootable USB stick, but i'm sitting on a mac.  The bootable USB stick is NOT for booting a mac, it'll be for booting a thinkpad laptop.  The docs i found ont he wiki create a .dmg file, and dd that to the USB stick (from the ISO).  since the target machine is not a mac, how do i create a bootable image on the usb stick on the mac?21:00
RenardOoh. Shiny. My bad :)21:00
GalvatronIs there any trick to get rid of the titlebars with close buttuns in the "Scale" mode, seemingly hard-coded into Unity and only slowing the whole thing?21:01
bazhangpenk, from the mac command line?21:01
penkyea21:01
penkor, i could do it elsewher.e  i'm not proud :)21:01
bazhangpenk, is that a bash shell? or something different21:02
penkbash21:02
zizzusuciao21:02
RenardThis seems to do the trick indeed. Thanks, genii-around !21:02
ndegruchypenk: the procedure is the same21:03
ndegruchyI've created a bunch of Ubuntu bootable USB drives on my mac21:03
penkexcept the hditool create a 'dmg' file.  the docs say it should create an img21:03
penkshould i just dd the .dmg file to the device?21:03
genii-aroundRenard: You're welcome :-)21:03
penkadn that'll boot on on a wintel generic laptop?21:03
ndegruchyyeah, the hditool will often times add a img.dmg file21:04
penk-rw-r--r--@ 1 dshevett  22323  789884928 Nov 30 15:26 ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso21:04
penk-rw-r--r--  1 dshevett  22323  789884928 Nov 30 15:57 ubuntu.iso.dmg21:04
penkokay.  thanks21:04
rosevphaving issues connecting to xdm vir win7 using Xming21:04
rosevpgetting : Hung in XOpenDisplay(192.168.1.6:0), aborting21:04
penkndegruchy: do you use /dev/rdisk or /dev/disk ?21:04
penkthere's notes that the rdisk may be faster21:04
ndegruchypenk: the installer is so small I don't really notice much of a difference21:05
penkk21:05
ndegruchy~700mb transfers fairly fast over usb, but YMMV21:05
penktrying it now.21:05
ndegruchypenk: these are the steps I used: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx21:06
penkyep21:06
penki just got hung up because it jumps to "this is how you boot a mac to run ubuntu'.  thanks :)21:06
ndegruchyI just stopped before 1021:06
penk:)21:06
ndegruchyI actually used that process to build a Kubuntu disk for my desktop at home21:06
ndegruchyand it seems like the only reliable process for me recently, the Ubuntu Startup Disc creator and the Windows utility never build bootable disks on my machines :\21:07
BlackScreenHello. My colleague has installed Ubuntu Alternate choosing to put grub on /dev/sda, but upon boot he gets a black screen after holding shift to see 'loading grub'21:07
peccmy audio dies randomly when connected to dock, disconnect/reconnect helps every time but only until the next time, audio worked 40 min perfectly when disconnected from dock, after reconnecting failed in 10 min -- anyone have any ideas?21:07
TeraQuibblertorrents or magnets are faster? i am downloading iso21:10
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Guest85346some one can tell Me21:13
Guest85346suis en ligne ou pas ?21:13
pbxbrianGuest85346: yes!21:13
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rosevpcan someone help me with connecting to box remotely21:14
matanc_Hello folks21:15
matanc_quick question21:15
matanc_anyone here using vim?21:15
bazhangmatanc_, whats the real question21:16
matanc_The question is21:16
trematanc_: post your Q and just wait if anyone will answer it21:16
matanc_Why are the movement key prests h,j,k,l21:16
bazhangmatanc_, on ONE Line please21:16
rosevpquestion ?21:17
rosevpxdm21:17
rosevphelp21:17
treDoes anyone know how to change theme in Lubuntu via terminal (not using lxappearance)?21:17
matanc_I mean, if you're supposed to put your hand normally on jkl; keys, why shift it one to the left?21:17
trismmatanc_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_keys#HJKL_keys and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Terminal_ADM3A.svg it seems21:19
nardevis there any peace of software that i can use to listen /dev/ttyACM0 as serial under 9600bps, i need it for arduino app and/or communication with cisco router21:19
peccwas I silenced? please reply if you can see this21:21
dr_williswhat if we say we cant see it. ;-)21:22
dr_williswe see you.21:22
peccthanks dr_willis, I'll just have to wait for someone then who knows about audio stuff21:23
MonkeyDustpecc  try #ubuntustudio21:23
Sna4x8I got an update for linux-image-3.2.0-34 today, and the update is hanging on: Generating grub.cfg ...21:24
peccMonkeyDust thank you I will21:24
Sna4x8Anyone having that issue?21:24
dr_willisi rarely mess with audio issues21:24
yhushadoes a squashf file ever load in gedit21:24
MonkeyDustSna4x8  3.2... that's ubuntu 12.04 ?21:24
ajpSna4x8: CLI or GUI?21:24
Sna4x8Yep.21:24
dr_willisyhusha: that wouldent make sense21:25
yhushato edit it21:25
Sna4x8ajp: Tried the GUI first when it popped up, then restarted after a few hours and ran apt-get dist-upgrade21:25
Sna4x8It's been there for a few hours now.21:25
bekksyhusha: It doesnt make sense to edit a squash fs file.21:25
dr_willisyou dont edit it with a text efitor21:25
dr_willisin any csde21:25
yhushawell it was through terminal21:26
ajpSna4x8: look for a popup window asking about which grub version you want21:26
dr_willisyhusha: that wouldent make sense either21:26
bekksyhusha: Even in a terminal, you do not edit a squash fs file with a text editor.21:26
Sna4x8ajp: popup from the CLI?21:26
yhushagksu gedit /casper/chroot/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper21:26
ajpSna4x8: oh i thought GUI, it should ask you about versioning at this point in the grub update me thinks21:27
robottinosinoIs this a bug? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1400458/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1400609/21:27
yhushadoes thhat make since21:27
yhushasence21:27
yhushasense21:27
yhusha*21:27
dmitchellis the right channel to ask what kernel parameters are implied by the recovery parameter? my system only boots if I resume from recovery.21:27
dr_willisi thought squashfs was read only...21:27
yhushahold on21:27
Sna4x8ajp: It's  stuck at "found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin".21:27
yhushawrong line21:27
bekksyhusha: Thats editing a script, not a squash fs file.21:27
yhushanever mind21:28
yhushagot it21:28
ajpSna4x8: what happens if you press enter?21:28
Sna4x8Just newlines.21:28
ajpSna4x8: I'm not sure, sorry man21:28
Sna4x8Okay, thanks for the help anyway!21:29
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crowhello!21:31
dmitchellcan anyone help me with this? it looks like I get a soft lock on normal boot, but if I resume from recovery mode it's OK21:31
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dr_willis tried  the text mode boot yet?21:32
dr_willis!text21:32
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode21:32
dmitchellhi. yes, that's the normal boot. I'm using ubuntu server.21:33
dr_williswhere does it lock up at?21:33
dr_willisim not aware of recoverymode disabling anything other then x starting21:34
dmitchelldr_willis: hard to say, unfortunately. it prints a lengthy stack trace that fills the screen. I'll reboot and give you my best guess brb21:36
veryhappyhi guys, where do i have to go to get hints about networking in ubuntu/linux?21:36
veryhappyis there anything like #network or #networking?21:36
sabelI am having some serious trouble with my wireless dongle..i have been working at it for almost 5 hours no to no avail. It is a Netgear WNDA410021:36
dr_willishints?21:36
dr_willistheres dozens of books and sites on networking21:37
veryhappydr_willis: tips21:37
veryhappydr_willis i have special questions21:37
dr_willisyes veryhappy .. care to be more specific. ;-)21:38
arosenI was wondering if anyone know off hand if ubuntu opensources the spec files that they use to create packages? And if so where I could find them?21:38
veryhappydr_willis: for sure i have an own brain to know that there must be books :P21:38
veryhappyabout networking21:38
panic_Hi. I'm running 12.04 LTS and am currently running the Update Manager.  Howeve,r it appears to have stalled at "Configuring linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic."  When I click details it says it's "run-parts: execuring /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-udpate-grub 3.2.0-34-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-34-generic"  I'm not sure what to do.  I don't want to mess up my kernel.  It's been stuck on this for long enough for me to get concerend, install &21:38
veryhappydr_willis: is there any possiblity to change advanced wifi options? i want to change options like cts-to-self to rts/cts and so on.21:39
rosevpis magic-cookie needed w/ Xming/xdm21:39
yhushacant get  nautilus-gksu21:39
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sabelI am having some serious trouble with my wireless dongle..i have been working at it for almost 5 hours no to no avail. It is a Netgear WNDA410021:39
yhushaE: Unable to locate package nautilus-gksu21:39
sabelwhere can i get the drivers for it...? how can i make it work in ubuntu?21:40
Fried_ChickenI am having some problems with icaclient.  I found a solution online here: http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=306353&tstart=0  but I can't get it to run dpkg --configure icaclient now21:40
panic_yhusha: What are you trying to do?  Run nautilus as root?21:40
dr_willissabel: what chipset is it using?21:40
Fried_ChickenI am a new user and am probably doing something super dumb21:40
ClientAliveI want to do some stuff with compiz but the learning curve seems prohibitively expensive. Does one have to make a career out of learning compiz to enjoy a couple effects here and there?21:40
sabeldr_willis: one moment let me find out21:40
Fried_Chickenhow do I get the dpkg to run?  I tried the command and sudo21:40
yhushayes21:41
blubeeguys ive been googling for a while now and can't find a good answer. Is it possible to have a wine program save files back to a directory local to my ubuntu home directory? If so how can I do that?21:41
dmitchellok the last thing I saw was something about 'running /scripts/init-bottom'21:41
gordonjcpFried_Chicken: pastebin the command you use and the error you get21:41
gordonjcp!pastebin | Fried_Chicken21:41
ubottuFried_Chicken: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:41
dmitchellit soft looks soon after21:41
sabeldr_willis: it uses RAlink chipset21:41
panic_yhusha: I usually run: gksudo nautilus21:41
guntbert_dmitchell: what do the logs say? (var/log/syslog)21:42
dr_willisrunning nautilus as root can be a bad idea..21:42
dr_willisbbl.. lunch time21:42
rosevpcan someone direct to a channel for connecting Xwin/xdm21:42
panic_dr_willis: It can be for sure.  I'm still nto sure what to do aobut this Update Manager being frozen.21:42
sabelCan anyone help me? im trying to use a Netgear WNDA4100 wireless USB adapter in ubuntu. it uses RAlink chipset. ive been workin on this for nearly 6 hours now and would greatly appreciate some help.21:43
dmitchellguntbert_: well I'm not sure how to check the logs. the system doesn't seem to finish booting, it just goes into a loop printing a stack trace every few seconds21:43
Fried_Chickenhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1400658/21:43
yhushahow to unmount a directory21:43
watussi_hi21:44
dmitchellif I reboot via recovery->resume, will there be logs saved from the failed boot?21:44
almoxarifesabel: look at 'nidiswrapper' for an answer to your problem21:44
guntbert_dmitchell: now I am a little confused - didn't you say that the system resumes fine from a suspend? how do you get to that state?21:45
sabelalmoxarife: Id like to use that..but there are no stand alone drivers to download...i cant exactly use the disk either. it only comes with an EXE21:45
guntbert_almoxarife: s/ndis/nidis/21:45
dmitchellno, what I meant is that I can only boot the system by booting into recovery mode and choosing resume21:45
yhushamade a directory /mnt/iso/ and mounted it but cant unmount to delete it21:45
almoxarifesabel: what comes via .exe?21:46
llutzyhusha: sudo umount /mnt/iso21:46
panic_Update issue Frozen: I'm running 12.04 LTS and am currently running the Update Manager.  Howeve,r it appears to have stalled at "Configuring linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic."  When I click details it says it's "run-parts: execuring /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-udpate-grub 3.2.0-34-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-34-generic"  I'm not sure what to do.  I don't want to mess up my kernel.  It's been stalled on this step at least 20 minutes or so.21:46
sabelalmoxarife: whatcha mean? its an installer ment to be run on windows..i can start it in wine but it crashes. ive scoured the web for the stand alone driver without an installer and there is none to be found.21:46
kristenbbhi, I'd like to find all files in a folder (and subfolders) that have read access to everyone, and change it to read and write for me only. Please confirm this is it:          find . -type f -perm 444 -exec chmod 600 '{}' \;21:47
yhusha sudo unmount /mnt/iso/21:47
yhushasudo: unmount: command not found21:47
panic_yhusha:  umount21:47
llutzyhusha: sudo umount /mnt/iso            read again21:48
guntbert_dmitchell: I see - well boot into recovery and check the logs from there ?21:48
yhushahaha21:48
rosevpcan someone help with my xming/xdm issue?21:48
dmitchellI was trying to find out what exactly the "recovery" kernel parameter does. I figure it's disabling some kernel features. if I knew what it disabled, that would be a clue to my problem.21:49
dmitchellguntbert_: hang on, I'll check21:49
watussi_I use a screen for monitoring and I search a soft to change webpage every 10 seconds21:51
watussi_do you have an idea ?21:51
rosevpxdm help?21:53
buarpeople, who can help with driver for printer canon pixma 1800?21:53
BlackScreenHello. My colleague has installed Ubuntu Alternate choosing to put grub on /dev/sda, but upon boot he gets a black screen after holding shift to see 'loading grub'21:54
brutal_chaosso I am trying to install video-ati:i386 and ubuntu seems to be missing packages. Package 'keyboard-configuration:i386' has no installation candidate21:55
brutal_chaoswhat am I to do?21:55
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bmartin4brutal_chaos: it's just keyboard-configuration drop the i386 part.21:59
MonkeyDust!info keyboard-configuration | brutal_chaos21:59
ubottubrutal_chaos: keyboard-configuration (source: console-setup): system-wide keyboard preferences. In component main, is important. Version 1.70ubuntu5 (quantal), package size 511 kB, installed size 2172 kB21:59
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forcehello22:00
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InumediaI'm running 12.10 server, and can't seem to get eth0 working at all.  Boot waits for 120 seconds for network config and then continues on.  Tried doing ifup eth0 and it fails, can anyone help me fix this issue?  I have it running in a VM (Oracle VirtualBox)22:01
forceKuwait Ubuntu mirror : ubuntu.qualitynet.net is not working and terminate download session if we downloaded only 23MB22:02
CatbuntuHey22:03
MonkeyDustInumedia  in the vbox settings, try changing NAT to bridged22:03
InumediaTried22:03
InumediaI've tried booting with NAT, Bridged to host eth adapter, bridged to host wifi adapter, and host-only22:04
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InumediaNone work22:04
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brutal_chaosMonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/3a2nMax122:05
brutal_chaosi can't drop the :i38622:05
MonkeyDustInumedia  try virtualbox-OSE from the repos22:05
InumediaOSE?22:05
MonkeyDust!info virtualbox-ose > Inumedia22:06
Inumediaapt-get install virtualbox-ose?22:07
MonkeyDustInumedia  it's what I use for both windows and linux guests22:07
brutal_chaos!info keyboard-configuration:i38622:07
ubottuPackage keyboard-configurationi386 does not exist in quantal22:07
brutal_chaos!info keyboard-configuration:amd6422:07
ubottuPackage keyboard-configurationamd64 does not exist in quantal22:07
brutal_chaoshmmmm22:07
panic_Is it spammy if I post my question again?  May I?22:07
InumediaHow am I to apt-get if I can't get network connectivity? :P22:07
MonkeyDustbrutal_chaos  without :386 or :6422:07
bekksInumedia: There is no vbox-ose anymore, since version 4.022:07
brutal_chaosMonkeyDust: I can't22:08
brutal_chaosMonkeyDust:http://pastebin.com/3a2nMax122:08
MonkeyDust!info keyboard-configuration | brutal_chaos22:08
ubottubrutal_chaos: keyboard-configuration (source: console-setup): system-wide keyboard preferences. In component main, is important. Version 1.70ubuntu5 (quantal), package size 511 kB, installed size 2172 kB22:08
brutal_chaosMonkeyDust:http://pastebin.com/3a2nMax122:08
Jackyzgoodsalut22:08
MonkeyDustbrutal_chaos  try sudo apt-get -f install22:08
guntbert_panic_: repeating your question every 10-15 minutes is quite ok22:09
Jackyzgoodj'ai un soucis avec un pc portable et des cartes graphiques hybride intel/amd22:09
InumediaWould changing the mac address to the adapter cause this?22:09
bekks!fr | Jackyzgood22:09
ubottuJackyzgood: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.22:09
MonkeyDustInumedia  what bekks says, i installed vbox-ose, both it doesnt say ose in 'about', it's oracle22:09
bekksInumedia: Yes.22:10
panic_Update issue Frozen: I'm running 12.04 LTS and am currently running the Update Manager.  Howeve,r it appears to have stalled at "Configuring linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic."  When I click details it says it's "run-parts: execuring /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-udpate-grub 3.2.0-34-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-34-generic"  I'm not sure what to do.  I don't want to mess up my kernel.  It's been stalled on this step at least 20 minutes or so.22:10
Inumediabekks: Do you know the solution off hand? :D22:10
brutal_chaosMonkeyDust: nope22:10
brutal_chaosdidn't work22:10
gordonjcppanic_: don't worry too much22:11
bekksInumedia: Yes. :D Remove the line with the wrong (the old one) MAC from /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot22:11
gordonjcppanic_: it won't remove your existing kernel22:11
panic_gordonjcp:  Should I xkill?  It's been sitting like this for about an hour.22:11
gordonjcppanic_: does it respond to <ctrl-c>22:11
gordonjcp?22:11
InumediaI'll test and report back as soon as it finishes booting22:11
panic_gordonjcp:  No, it doesnt appear to.22:12
Chegyneed some advice regarding wn-370usb wireless card to install on bt5 r322:12
panic_gordonjcp:  As a note i'm using the GUI as opposed to apt-get update/upgrade22:12
Inumediabekks: Would it be safe to just remove all of the lines?22:12
gordonjcppanic_: well, kill it, and try doing it from a terminal and see if that gives you more information22:12
panic_gordonjcp: Ty will do.22:12
buarpeople, who can help with driver for printer canon pixma 1800?22:13
Chegyanyone22:13
bekksInumedia: No.22:13
InumediaOh.22:13
InumediaWell I did.22:13
InumediaAnd it worked.22:13
Inumedia:P22:13
FloodBot1Inumedia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:13
InumediaBekks: thanks! :D22:14
guntbert_!please | Chegy22:14
ubottuChegy: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude22:14
Chegywho is good here with driver support?22:14
bekksInumedia: You're welcome :)22:14
dr_willisbuar:  checked the linux-printing.org and cups.org site to see how well that printer is supported?22:14
ashleyludlowdepends on the driver22:15
bekksChegy: Another poll? What can we win in the lottery then? :)22:15
guntbert_Chegy: be patient please22:15
ashleyludlowchegy what are you trying to install?22:15
buardr_willis? i will try it22:15
ashleyludlowor..not....22:17
dr_willis;)22:17
dsajI follow the instruction here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7221757/run-automatically-program-on-startup-under-linux-ubuntu to run a program at startup, however when I run "update-rc.d /etc/init.d/test_code defaults", it outputs "update-rc.d: /etc/init.d//etc/init.d/test_code: file does not exist". What do I type wrong?22:18
ashleyludlow?22:18
lupin3ciao22:18
lupin3!list22:18
ubottulupin3: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».22:18
Sna4x8dsaj: update-rc.d test_code defaults22:18
ashleyludlowcya l8TR22:18
dr_willislupin3:  you list every random channelyou join?22:18
panic_gordonjcp: After figuring out how to unlock the dpkg(?) I ran update, was insturcted to do dpkg --configure -a, did, and I think it fixed the issue.  I just ran update, and I'm about to do upgrade.  Thank you!22:19
dsajSna4xB: thank you22:19
Sna4x8update-rc.d will look for files in /etc/init.d22:19
panic_gordonjcp:  Sweet! Everything is good again! Thank you very very much!22:19
ashleyludlowok so im gonna sound like a total noob but wtf is !list ?22:20
panic_I think i'm going to be doing my updates via the terminal from now on.22:20
dr_willisashleyludlow:  warez channels  often use it for a list of files.22:20
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dr_willisashleyludlow:  and it seems theres a dozen people commingin here daily doing Caio, !listing, then exiting...22:21
micah_can anyone help me with 9.04 ubuntu wifi?22:21
ashleyludlowand btw i work in a network admin section of the military and we still us bt4 ......and about 5 months ago we were still useing 3. sometimes the newest shit isnt always the best. its like carsah22:22
ikonia9.04 is dead sadly22:22
guntbert_ashleyludlow: and we thank you for not using (even obfuscated) swearwords in here :)22:22
ashleyludlowSORRY22:22
micah_so it wont work at all?22:22
ashleyludlowthat was ment for another chat22:22
ashleyludlowim still getin sed to irssi22:22
ikoniayeah right22:22
lindenle_HI guys, just got a kernel update and the depmod command has been runnign for about 4 hours now without completion at or above 80% of my cpu. Is this a known issue?22:23
Sna4x8lindenle_: Same here.22:23
ikonialindenle_: what module are you trying to load ?22:23
lindenle_ikonia: run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 3.2.0-34-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-34-generic22:24
brutal_chaosdoes 12.04 support having both video-ati i386 and amd64, aka multilib?22:24
lindenle_ikonia: seems to be just the kernel package22:24
gordonjcppanic_: cool, glad to hear it22:24
ikonialindenle_: so it's actually the update process that's failing/hanging rather than a depmod for a specific module/boot22:24
lindenle_ikonia: http://pastie.org/546029822:25
lindenle_ikonia: it seems so....22:25
ikonialindenle_: depmod completed22:25
ikoniaoops, depmod completed22:25
ikoniait's not depmod that's handing22:25
ikoniahanging22:25
lindenle_well the depmod process is still running if I do ps aux22:26
ikoniaaccording to that output, it's completed and moved onto updating the init ram fs and then what ever is in the post script22:26
ikonialindenle_: do you have any 3rd party modules installed ? nvidia, vbox, vmware etc ?22:27
lindenle_maybe vbox, let me check22:27
Sna4x8Hrm, mine's been hunger there for many hours too - I have vbox as well...22:27
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lindenle_yeah I have virtualbox installed22:28
ikoniamaybe worth looking at that22:28
brutal_chaosdoes 12.04 support having both video-ati i386 and amd64, aka multilib?22:29
Sna4x8ikonia: Just rmmod vboxdrv temporarily?22:29
ikoniaSna4x8: not sure if that's a wise move, but possibly yes22:29
ikoniabrutal_chaos: what are you trying to achieve ?22:29
ikoniabrutal_chaos: your xorg will be 64bit, so it will use 64bit modules22:30
ikoniayour kernel is also 64 bit22:30
ashleyludlowso i have a question of my own, i just updated my lubuntu install, and i saw it updated tpb (think pad buttons). it used to display a little blue bar across my screen for volume and mute, but its gone now... any ideas what i could do?22:30
lindenle_Snax48: let me know if that works OK22:30
ikoniaashleyludlow: log a bug22:30
ikoniaashleyludlow: if an update has killed it, log a bog22:31
ikoniabug22:31
Sna4x8lindenle_: I just killed the update, did an rmmod on vbox*, and did a dpkg --configure -a .... Looks like it's hanging, but I'll give it a bit22:31
redheatfolks, I'm using the new Ubuntu 12.10, and I followed the following on how to install a ATI driver for my HP touchsmart tm-2 intel duo-core laptop, anyhow, it went smoothly, but right after that..I decided to uninstall it..22:31
redheatso I did..22:31
redheathttp://www.my-guides.net/en/guides/linux/394-how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy-drivers-in-ubuntu-121022:31
redheatand that is the page that I'm talking about..22:32
redheatanyhow...22:32
ikoniawhy do people use these guides22:32
ikoniathey are just written by "anyone"22:32
ashleyludlowno the buttons still work, and i reinstalled the previous version its it not displaying. im quite honestly at a loss of where to start if i did want to log a bug..22:32
redheatno..this is a really good guide on how to run legacy ati drivers22:32
ikoniathere is a whole wiki of ubuntu specific and approved documentation22:32
ikoniaredheat: it's not good...as you're having problems with it22:32
redheatI'm havinga problem with it because it doesn't work with hybrid, that is AMD/intel, graphic cards..22:33
ikoniaredheat: right....so it's not a good guide22:33
ikoniaso then you're at fault22:33
ikoniaor you're using it for something it's not meant to be used for22:33
dr_willisi would think you would want the latest/cutting edge for  a hybrid chipset.22:33
redheatanyhow when I log back in I get a black screen, but I still hear everything in the background, I even wrote down my username and password blindly, and I could hear the22:34
redheatyeah22:34
redheatlogin sound..what I want right now is to restore my Xserver..that's all..22:34
Sna4x8lindenle_: Bleh, still hung - I'm going to try to reboot and try again.22:35
redheatI mean the system is working fine, but the Xserver is just..plain PitchBlack22:35
lindenle_Snax48: i was just trying to update spotify when this started happening... no tunes, no tunes!22:35
ikoniaredheat: drop it back to vesa22:35
redheathow?..22:35
redheatthat's the question..22:35
ikoniaredheat: boot into single user mode, change the xorg.conf22:35
lindenle_man I have too many kernels installed22:36
lindenle_time to clean up22:36
redheatok..that's a little bit above my pedigree, what's a single user mode?..and how do I change the xorg.conf22:36
ikoniasadly, at that point I'm going to back away and get on with some other things22:36
dr_willis!single22:37
redheatwait, I am the only user, I don't22:37
dr_williscould use text mode also.22:37
dr_willissingle user mode boot straight to a shell. similer to recovery mode.22:37
magmahi. I have some webserver running on my machine. How can I detect which process is opening port 80?22:37
dr_willistext mode goes to a shell/login screen. does not run X.22:37
redheatdr_willis, how to use command line, should I go into recovery mode..22:37
lindenle_magma: netstat22:37
redheatdr_willis, I should boot into recovery mode and choose which option22:38
dr_willisredheat:  you could try hiting alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 and see if those get you to a console22:38
dr_willisI tend to just use 'text' mode22:38
dr_willis!text22:38
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode22:38
redheatwhile I'm at the login screen?22:38
magmalindenle_: it does not show any port opened22:38
force/22:38
redheatdr_willis should22:38
redheatI do that while I'm at the login window, or during the startup?..in any case what should I write, the xorg.conf..how do I restore it to vesa22:39
lindenle_magma: netstat -pa22:39
dr_willissometimes the ati drivers ive seen mess up the consoles. in that case, the single/text/recovery mode would let you get logged into a console.22:39
redheatok, what should I write?22:40
dr_willisafter the system boots.. alt-crtl-FX to get to consoles.22:40
dr_willisNo idea what needs to go in the xorg.conf22:40
redheatok..22:40
jklazwhat about configuring it via live-cd22:40
redheathow do I do that? jklaz?22:40
redheatI already have a livecd on my usb stick? and I can do it..22:41
jklazboot the live-cd instaed of logging into single user mode22:41
redheatok22:41
RickZillaOk, I've made up my mind. I'm devoting 40G or so of my laptop to an ubuntu install...some apps just thrive more in that environment.22:41
magmais this tcp        0      0 *:http                  *:*                     LISTEN22:41
dr_willisbe faster to use singlke user mode. ;) would boot faster22:41
jklazthen in terminal type sudo nautilus in order to be able to change everything22:41
dr_willisthen he could test in single user mode with 'startx'22:41
redheatok, but do you guys have any idea on how to restore to vesa..?22:42
redheatI just need to know how?22:42
dr_willisremove the drivers you installed perhaps22:42
Sna4x8lindenle_: So, I did a /etc/init.d/vboxdrv stop, then a dpkg --configure -a (that hung).  I rebooted, and did /etc/init.d/vboxdrv stop again.22:42
forcehow can we fuck qualitynet.net that bad company has bad support for downloading ubuntu mirror?22:42
redheatI did?22:42
Sna4x8dpkg was already running in the background.22:43
magmalindenle_: help me to kill this bastard22:43
dr_willisredheat:  you said you followd some guide to install the legacy drivers i thoght22:43
redheatI did dr_willis, I already uninstalled all of them, ..22:43
peccgood folks of #ubuntu, "cannot submit urb (err = -27)" randomly when dock is connected, can you figure out what's causing this and/or how to fix it?22:43
Sna4x8And it seems to be updated now according to uname.22:43
jklazwhat resolution do you want?22:43
lindenle_magma: i am pretty sure netstat must be showing something22:43
redheatyeah, and there was a purge command that uninstalls the ppa, and along with it the driver..22:43
redheathttp://www.my-guides.net/en/guides/linux/394-how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy-drivers-in-ubuntu-121022:43
gordonjcppecc: that's probably going to take a bit more context to solve22:43
redheatgive it a look?22:43
redheatany?22:44
dr_willisredheat:  then it should be defaulting back to the xorg radeon drivers, unless xorg.conf is incorrect. You could just rename your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.OLD22:44
forcefuck you guys no one answer to me?22:44
redheathow to do I do that? forgive me I'm still new at linux..so how do I change from this to that..by the way i'm writing from another copy of linux, mint..22:45
lindenle_magma: sudo netstat -npa | grep tcp | grep ":80"22:45
jklazbtw  did you saw http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209?22:45
lindenle_magma: that should narrow it down22:45
redheatand it is installed on a partition next to ubuntu, so I can access the harddrive, from here..22:45
dr_willisredheat:  use the shell and with sudo mv foo bar    move the file to some other name22:45
TaZeRhi i like ubuntu22:45
SolarisBoynetstat has --tcp also22:45
TaZeRim using 12.10 x6422:46
lindenle_magma: ^ See what solarisboy said22:46
redheatdr_willis, I can do it from here, from mint, and access the partition ubuntu is installed on, and change the xorg.conf..by the way where is xorg.conf located?22:46
peccgordonjcp, I've had audio randomly die whenever my lappy is connected to its docking station (my audio output is in that dock) -- disconnect/reconnect dock instantly revives the sound but it'll die soon after -- I checked syslog and "cannot submit urb (err = -27)" is displayed before by USB disconnect/reconnect messages so I'm guessing it has something to do with the audio trouble22:46
SolarisBoysudo lsof -i :80 even22:46
bekksnetstat -tulpen or lsof -i :)22:46
magmalindenle_: cool. I got ~$ sudo netstat -npa | grep tcp | grep ":80" \\ tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1461/apache222:46
dr_willisredheat:  mount the ubuntu install use the proper path to the ubuntu installs  whatever/etc/X11/xorg.conf file, or use a file manager running as root.22:46
lindenle_magma: /etc/init.d/apache stop22:46
jklaz/etc/X11/xorg.conf22:47
magmalindenle_: how can I remove it?22:47
magmaI already did sudo apt-get autoremove apache222:47
lindenle_sudo apt-get remove apache22:47
magmaok22:47
magmalet's see22:47
dr_willisredheat:  you dont even need to be doing it from a differnt install. You should be able to boot the ubuntu install. go to its console. and use the command line to move /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.OLD22:47
gordonjcppecc: googling for that exact error message brings up a lot of stuff about problems with usb soundcards22:47
gordonjcppecc: but of course you already know that22:47
magmalindenle_: "Virtual packages like 'apache' can't be removed"22:47
lindenle_but removing it will not kill the process in memory22:47
bekksmagma: remove apache2 then.22:48
lindenle_magma: sudo dpkg -l apache | grep 'ii'22:48
magmalindenle_: but I restarted the system after removing22:48
lindenle_find out what is installed and then remove it22:48
OerHeksmagma, stop the service first: sudo service apache2 stop . then you are able to remove22:48
lindenle_magma: why did you restart, this is linux my friend22:48
magmalindenle_: no output with that command22:48
lindenle_no need to restart until a kernel update comes along22:48
gordonjcppecc: it may be that the sound chip in the docking station isn't well supported22:49
gordonjcppecc: a bit of googling suggests that it's something deep and technical in the way that USB communicates22:49
lindenle_or if you use ksplice you may never have to reboot again22:49
redheatdr_willis, I just located it on my other partition, but it is telling my I don't have enough permission to do it from this environment..22:49
lindenle_magma: dpkg -l apache*22:50
lindenle_magma: if you dont see anything you uninstalled it already22:50
dr_willisredheat:  that makes sence.. you need to use sudo/root to access/alter the file22:50
peccgordonjcp I figured this and am having trouble understanding the discussions I find, they incluse terminology I haven't seen ever  before22:50
gordonjcppecc: me too, and I am an audio developer ;-)22:50
jklazsu22:50
abdostarAnyone could help me to access a server I just installed over IP address ?22:51
redheatok..sorry again, dr_willis, how do I list the devices on my harddisk..I think it was..22:51
redheat-l22:51
lindenle_abdostar: ssh <ip_address> ?22:51
peccgordonjcp D: I guess... I guess it MIGHT be easier to find a way to connect an audio jack direct to what's left of my motherboard...22:51
magmalindenle_: "un  apache2               <none>                (no description available)"22:51
abdostarlindenle_: local IP working, but can use internet IP?22:51
MonkeyDustabdostar  ssh [user]@[remote IP]22:52
redheathow to list partitions by the way, dr_willis22:52
lindenle_magma: you should be good then and netsat should show no more apache on port 8022:52
dr_willisredheat:  mounted file systems - mount, all partions 'sudo fdisk -l'22:53
magmaI'm going to restart to check if it starts again22:53
dr_willisthe nautilus file manager can show the path to the files. ctrl-l22:53
abdostarMonkeyDust: Connection time out22:53
lindenle_magma: the init script should not be there anymore22:54
lindenle_if you uninstalled it22:54
redheatok it's located on /dev/sda222:54
dr_willisredheat:  thats not its MOUNTPOINT however..22:54
abdostarMonkeyDust: do I have to configure my router?22:54
magmalindenle_: the script is there. And I did "sudo apachectl -k start" and it starts working again22:54
dr_willisso thats not the path to the file22:54
magmaweird22:54
aahumm is there a way to increase the RAM without having to reinstall ubuntu?22:54
gordonjcppecc: or buy a USB device that's supported?  Behringer UCA202 works well for me, and even has an optical out so I can hook it to my mixer22:55
dr_willisaah:  increase what ram?22:55
lindenle_magma: did you install it from source22:55
redheatso how do I get the mounted point/22:55
lindenle_magma: which  apachectl22:55
magmalindenle_: that's something I don't know. It's not my machine :S22:55
aahdr_willis: ram -- random access memory.  ubuntu's ram.22:55
dr_willisredheat:  mounted file systems - mount, all partions 'sudo fdisk -l' <--------------- The mount command...22:55
dr_willisaah:  that makes no sence.. You install more ram into the system and ubuntu will use it.22:56
aahdr_willis: i'm sorry.  i misspoke.  i meant swap space.22:56
aah:(22:56
redheatdr_willis, I know I'm badgering you with this I did, so if I want to browse to that partition,  I can write "cd /dev/sda2" is that correct22:56
dr_willisaah:  you an easially add more swap partions, or swap files.22:56
dr_willis!swap | aah22:56
ubottuaah: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info22:56
lindenle_magma: that begs the question "why are you messing with someone else's toys"22:56
dr_willisredheat:  /dev/XXX is NOT a PATH to  the files.. thats the DEVICE NAME..22:57
aahthanks dr_willis .. i hope i can do it without having to reinstall ubuntu ..22:57
dr_willisredheat:  you MOUNT a filesystem to a directory...22:57
peccgordonjcp, supported by what? All I need really is just single audios in/out 3,5 mm , and wouldn't like to pay extra for mixer connections/such.22:57
aahi'll check out that link22:57
magmalindenle_: because now I'm kind of the administrator of this machine22:57
dr_willisaah:  err... you can add swap on the fly...22:57
joshts386Hello22:57
gordonjcppecc: supported by ALSA22:57
MonkeyDustabdostar  yeah, you may have to port forward22:57
dr_willisaah:  you can add swap partions or swap files all day long if you wanted. ;)22:57
joshts386I am new to ubuntu and have a few questions22:58
aahdr_willis: that's heartening to hear .. how do i do it?  using gparted?22:58
dr_willisaah:  No.. You make a swap file and use the swapon command..22:58
magmalindenle_: assuming it was not installed through some package repository, can I just delete the init script, so that it does not start on booting^?22:58
redheatok..ok..got that..22:58
MonkeyDustjoshts386  just ask your question22:58
dr_willishttp://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/22:59
peccgordonjcp, ach, yes... thanks for the help, I'll return later if I get stuck again22:59
roastedhello!22:59
joshts386first off, when I use the solitaire game that came with the install, sometimes when I x out it will not completly close out and I have to manually restart my computer23:00
roastedQuestion - Ubuntu has the two sided snap vertically. Does that feature exist horizontally, though? In this particular machine I'd prefer to do away with the "slide up to maximize" and have an option to slide up to arrange 50% horizontally, and slide another window down to arrange 50% horizontally. Is that possible?23:00
MonkeyDustjoshts386  alt-fs xkill and click on the window23:00
MonkeyDustjoshts386  alt-f2 xkill and click on the window <-- correction23:01
redheatdr_willis, how to enable root account?23:01
joshts386i was wondering if anyone could tell me what might be going on when this happens23:01
netmk!root | redheat23:01
ubotturedheat: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo23:01
lindenle_magma: you can but you can also use update-rc.d to tell it to not start23:01
redheatI was thinking, I can leave this session, login as root, and then manipulate23:01
magmalindenle_: good. that's what I want :)23:02
joshts386thanks monkey23:02
redheatthe folder xorg.conf and get over this pain in the butt process23:02
redheatnetmk23:02
joshts386there is another issue that has plauged me for awhile now23:02
redheatnetmk, how to enable login window in ubuntu..23:02
lindenle_magma: update-rc.d manages the soft links in the rcX folders that decide what processes to start at any given run level23:02
redheatand add a root23:02
lindenle_check the man page23:02
netmkit's added right after you install.23:03
joshts386sometimes when my page is loading the screen will go dim and freeze for a few seconds23:03
MonkeyDustredheat  you cannot add root23:03
lindenle_Snax48: I killed mine and re-ran dpkg --confiure -a and it finished23:03
joshts386this has been an issue for a few months23:04
joshts386excuse me monkeydust23:07
magmalindenle_:  this is a directory: /var/lib/update-rc.d23:07
joshts386?23:07
magmaoh /usr/sbin/update-rc.d23:07
anon2012ci sono italiani23:09
ColinApplegateI know English!23:09
ColinApplegateSorry :D23:09
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joshts386i have another issue if anyone would be so kind as to help me23:09
hilarieI don't think this is the right spot for this, but is there any way to make cinnamon fit on my netbook desktop? it goes up to high23:10
ColinApplegatewhat's up Josh! I'll give it my best shot.23:10
joshts386thanks colin23:10
gperalesexit23:10
aznnoblesswow so many people here.23:10
joshts386my issue is when my page is loading sometimes my screen will dim and freeze for a second or two23:10
ColinApplegateof course aznnobless, Ubuntu is the greatest Linux distro on Earth!23:11
ColinApplegatejosh: what page? in a web browser?23:11
joshts386web browser23:11
ColinApplegateFirefox?23:11
ColinApplegateall pageS?23:11
joshts386usualy something like youtube or any pages like that23:11
yhushasudo mount -o loop ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso mnt   is to mount a cd if it were on flash drive what might be an alternative23:11
joshts386firefox23:12
ColinApplegatesounds like an issue with the flash player23:12
joshts386it is different on different pages23:12
ColinApplegateis it only pages that use Flash23:12
SolarisBoyyhusha: thats to mount a cd image to a loop device for a flash drive simply mount the drive23:12
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joshts386no not just pages that use flash23:13
aznnoblessany developers here?23:13
yhushasudo mount -o /dev/sda2/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso mnt   for example23:13
joshts386sometimes it is facebook and pages like that but it does happen more on pages with flash23:13
SolarisBoywould mount the iso to mnt (overwriting whats on /mnt) yhusha23:13
aznnoblessI don't like unity.23:14
SolarisBoyyhusha: well technically i dont think the iso would be on that block device like that either =)23:14
ColinApplegateJosh: Does your CPU usage spike when this happens? Does the computer become temporarily unresponsive?23:14
magmalindenle_: thanks for the help. Problem solved :)23:14
joshts386i have no idea, i just know the page dims and everything freezes for a second23:14
yhushaam trying to follow this tutorial bt it needs be tuned to 12.04 and flash drive not cd23:15
ColinApplegatehave you tried running Firefox in safe mode?23:15
yhushahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM23:15
joshts386yes i have tried safemode23:15
ColinApplegatesame result?23:15
joshts386yes23:16
SolarisBoyyhusha: are you trying to customize a live cd?23:16
yhushayes23:16
ColinApplegateit looks like it's a known bug in 11.04 and nobody has touched it23:17
ColinApplegatehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/80051723:17
yhushaalso using this: sudo mount -o loop /home/user/Desktop/disk1.iso /mnt/disk23:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 800517 in firefox (Ubuntu) "While the pages are loading , firefox freezes(minimise it and it disturbs my screen)" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:17
SolarisBoyyhusha: and you are trying on a live usb?23:17
jribColinApplegate: 11.04 isn't supported anymore23:17
joshts386i am running 12.0423:17
ColinApplegatejrib: kay! :)23:17
yhushawell theres a copy of the iso on hdd in /home23:17
yhushaand on usb23:18
ColinApplegatei'm just getting back into the linux seen jrib. forgive my ignorance ;)23:18
SolarisBoyok you need to mount the iso and then the squashfs in the iso23:18
aznnoblessIsn't it unity problem?23:18
yhushanot a live usb just a usb with the iso23:19
SolarisBoyok so you need to mount the usb first and then mount the iso from there or copy off and then mount the iso23:19
ColinApplegatewell Josh, beats me, man. Sorry. I'm not quite as well versed as a seasoned developer in the OS so my knowledge is limited.23:19
SolarisBoythe flash drive is just where the iso is at it shouldn't affect anything in that doc your reading23:19
SolarisBoywhere is the usb mounted to on your filesystem yhusha ?23:20
ColinApplegateman back in the day Jane used to idle here23:20
ColinApplegateI haven't seen Jane or Mark in years :) Wonder if they even remember me! lol23:21
ColinApplegatehappy Friday everyone! l8r23:21
yhushaits mounted at /media23:21
yhusha@ /media/...23:22
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Dr_FarFarHi All23:23
shadowfleehey23:23
yhushaSolarisBoy: @/media/....23:24
ickefeshi guys. i looked up alsa 1.0.26 and a site said that the changelog was not as exciting as the latest audio updates/features added to kernel. i don't what version of the kernel but do you know what they might be thinking of when they say exciting?23:26
ickefesanyone have any idea?23:29
bazhangickefes, asked in the alsa channel yet?23:29
ickefesno but i maybe should be doing so. thank you23:30
bazhangshould be #alsa23:30
SolarisBoyyhusha: ok so load the iso from that path.23:30
ickefesthank you23:30
fishcookeri've tried several solution for enabling BT on my asus but it won't work .. fn+ f2 not working, restart bluetooth on /etc/init.d/23:31
fishcookerinstall blueman also23:31
fishcookerdoesn't solve the problem23:31
fishcookerTT23:31
yhushaso something like sudo mount /media/..../isofile /mnt23:31
recover_ext4Hi, I need some help. I've tried many tools to recover lost data on an ext4 partition, but its not been possible so far. Most recently I've been tryin photorec, and a few others. I've manged to recover data that existed years ago on the hard drive, but the recent ext4 data hasn't been recovered (from same drive).23:32
sam_nazarkoshould i just not use ubuntu? black screen on boot.23:32
sam_nazarkoJordan_U: are you online23:32
TheLordOfTimeUSAArmy123:33
Jordan_Usam_nazarko: Yes.23:33
sam_nazarkodo you remember me?23:33
sam_nazarkohad some questions about lvm and grub you answered23:33
recover_ext4Anyone know data recovery?23:33
Jordan_Usam_nazarko: Sorry but no.23:33
JerryCottonhi, i installed ubuntu. unfortunatly grub doesnt find my fedora lvm partition. how can i add that partition in the boot menu23:33
Jordan_Urecover_ext4: How was the data lost, and have you now learned your lesson about keeping good backups?23:33
sam_nazarkoJordan_U: you told me to dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and got me booting. But now I only get a black screen after grub. tried removing the quiet and splash options but nothing23:34
zykotick9JerryCotton: have you tried running "sudo update-grub" to verify?23:34
Jordan_Usam_nazarko: Have you tried nomodeset?23:34
JerryCottonzykotick does that make sense? i installed ubuntu 5 minutes ago. i thought grub does update at install?23:35
sam_nazarkocan try, any idea what may be causing it23:35
sam_nazarko1min jordan_u23:35
sam_nazarkoit worked before so not sure what's up now. all i did was add a serial port23:35
JerryCottoni cant even see the lvm partition in nautilus23:35
zykotick9JerryCotton: during install, it's not surprising it didn't get added.  try it, and see if you notice it in the output.23:35
Jordan_UJerryCotton: Do you have the "lvm2" package installed?23:35
recover_ext4Whats the best data recovery tool for ext4?23:35
JerryCottonok23:35
zykotick9!tab | JerryCotton23:36
ubottuJerryCotton: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.23:36
sam_nazarkoJordan_U: nomodeset did not help,23:37
sam_nazarkoblack screen but it is getting a signal23:37
JerryCotton!tab test23:37
JerryCotton?23:37
JerryCottonwhat do you mean?23:37
JerryCottonthe key itself doesnt do anything23:37
zykotick9JerryCotton: try zyko<TAB>23:38
JerryCottonzykotick9:23:38
JerryCottonah tx :)23:38
sam_nazarkoI have been trying for 7 days to get ubuntu working now23:38
recover_ext4Does anyone here know data recovery?23:38
sam_nazarkoI'm not an idiot; and know my way around Linux, so I am starting to think this is the product of a 6-month release cycle23:38
Jordan_Urecover_ext4: We can't help you if you don't answer our quetions. Did you see my questions?23:39
bug-traqrecover_ext4,  what you need to know about data recovery ???23:39
JerryCottonzykotick9: this is the output of update grub: Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic-pae23:39
JerryCottonFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-23-generic-pae23:39
JerryCottonFound memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin23:39
JerryCottonFound Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda123:39
JerryCottondone23:39
FloodBot1JerryCotton: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:39
lindenle_magma: +1 good work23:39
JerryCottondont see if fedora is includet here23:39
alusionhow do I tell ffmpeg to convert .ogg to .gif or something?23:39
Jordan_UJerryCotton: Do you have the "lvm2" package installed?23:40
bekksalusion: .ogg is a sound file, .gif is a graphics file.23:40
JerryCottonno think not i just installed ubuntu 2 minutes ago Jordan_U23:40
magmalindenle_: glad there are guys like you here :)23:40
Jordan_UJerryCotton: sudo apt-get install lvm223:40
JerryCottontx ill try23:40
JerryCottonafter that upgrade grub again?23:41
Jordan_UJerryCotton: Yes.23:41
lindenle_magma: ythat is why they pay me the big bux :P23:41
JerryCottonJordan_U a get a error message. lvm2 not available23:42
JerryCottondo i need to add a rep for this?23:42
Jordan_UJerryCotton: Please pastebin the exact error message.23:42
Jordan_UJerryCotton: No.23:42
bug-traqrecover_ext4,  try testdisk it is for data recovery on ext423:43
zykotick9bug-traq: fyi, photorec is file recovery part of testdisk (which does partition recovery)23:44
bug-traqzykotick9,  ok ???23:45
zykotick9bug-traq: they said they'd already tried that...23:45
bug-traqzykotick9,  testdisk is what i have used and it worked well , just a suggestion  thats all23:45
Jordan_UJerryCotton: Please pastebin the complete output of "sudo LANG=C apt-get install lvm2".23:46
zykotick9bug-traq: i hear that.  photorec has been a HUGE benefit to me a couple of times ;)23:46
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recover_ext4I've had plenty of luck recovering other partitions with photorec, just haven't managed to recover ext4.23:47
Jordan_Urecover_ext4: How was the data lost, and have you now learned your lesson about keeping good backups?23:47
sam_nazarkono ideas then jordan_u23:48
JerryCottonhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1400901/23:48
Jordan_Usam_nazarko: Does the Ubuntu LiveCD/USB work properly?23:48
bug-traqrecover_ext4, Testdisk will bring back any partitions you accidentally erased or lost. But some data may not come back with the partition. However, you can gain access to that data when the partition table is available again  , this is from the website itself23:48
recover_ext4For the person who keeps making stupid whisper comments, the data was lost during a backup.23:48
JerryCottoni have to add the information. this is a fresh ubuntu 12.04. i did do nothing before23:48
sam_nazarkoYes jordan_u. I had the system booting before, but now all fresh installs are the same23:49
Jordan_UJerryCotton: You definitely should not be getting that output.23:49
Jordan_Usam_nazarko: Was it booting before with the same version of Ubuntu? Do you have hybrid graphics?23:50
sam_nazarkoJordan_U: I am doing this. Netboot, installing to an LVM within RAID1 (mdadm). Grub always fails (installs to /dev/sda), so I chroot in, install to /dev/sdc and /dev/sdc, do dpkg-reconfigure and check /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc as my target drives23:50
sam_nazarkoIntegrated graphics, just trying to get a tty, did not install desktop23:50
sam_nazarkoyes, same version23:50
Jordan_Usam_nazarko: If the installation is failing at installing grub, there may be steps after that that it's not performing.23:50
JerryCottonJordan_U any ideas? :)23:51
Jordan_UJerryCotton: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update".23:51
sam_nazarkoJordan_U, after I chroot, I then select 'Finish installation' option in the install and iit goes OK23:51
Jordan_Usam_nazarko: Installation to /dev/sda should not fail, even if that's not the drive whose boot sector you want grub installed to, and there should be an option to install grub to a different disk, or skip grub installation entirely.23:52
BlackScreenHello. My colleague has installed Ubuntu Alternate choosing to put grub on /dev/sda, but upon boot he gets a black screen after holding shift to see 'loading grub'23:53
Jordan_Usam_nazarko: Is there a reason that you need to use the netboot installer?23:53
JerryCottonJordan_U http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1400905/23:54
GartimusPrimehello23:54
Jordan_UBlackScreen: Does your colleague have more than one hard drive, and is he sure that his firmware is booting from sda?23:54
GartimusPrimenew guy with a stupid question23:54
GartimusPrimeI have a old desktop collecting dust that I decided to install Ubuntu 12.10 on23:55
BlackScreenJordan_U: yeah he has two hard drives, would it be best to just disconnect one then install that way23:55
GartimusPrimeinstallation went great\23:55
sam_nazarkoJordan_U: I tried alternate disc, but only ever had luck with the netboot23:55
GartimusPrimebut now I have just a black screen with mouse pointer23:56
GartimusPrimeany suggestions?23:56
bug-traqGartimusPrime,  i still get a black screen with mouse pointer , if i have my ext. harddrive or phone in the usb upon boot23:57
fishcookerrecover_ext4: afaik photorec still the best sorry23:57
Jordan_UBlackScreen: The issue isn't so much when installing, it's when booting with two drives in the computer. Right now only sda has a valid bootloader on it, so if the computer boots from the other drive (with a broken old grub install) booting will fail. You can install grub to both drives, so that it doesn't matter which drive the firmware tries to boot from.23:57
fishcookerwhy you dont fat.ing your drive ..23:57
fishcookerthere is get data back23:57
fishcookerin windows23:57
GartimusPrimeall I have is mouse and ir device23:57
fishcooker:cheers:23:57
bug-traqGartimusPrime, all i have to do is unplug the ext. hd drive or phone and hit enter and it boots23:57
GartimusPrimehmm23:58
Jordan_Urecover_ext4: Can you be more specific about how the data was lost? How it was lost makes a huge difference when it comes to recovering it.23:58
GartimusPrimeI have no ext. hd23:58
GartimusPrimemaybe my pc is too old?23:59
BlackScreenJordan_U: how would i install grub on both via ubuntu server install?23:59
OpenSorceWhat's the channel for steam on linux?23:59

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