[00:00] <prospero1> i tar'd the firmware all i did
[00:00] <prospero1> but why didn't the same work the first time
[00:00] <vitimiti> bye
[00:00] <nonkn4mer> prospero1: I've been following this most of the afternoon... glad it's finally working
[00:00] <bobweaver> enjoy it hope that you learned something today. That proprietary firmware is a pain in the maybe or at any rate good to see that it is working now
[00:01] <prospero1> nonkn4mer: thank you i've almost lost hope
[00:01] <Virunga> night
[00:01] <bobweaver> prospero1,  you  should 100% file a bug against that
[00:02] <prospero1> how, at launchpad?
[00:02] <bobweaver> if you know how or have the time. well sorry do what you like but I would 100% fiule a bug
[00:02] <prospero1> wow linux is making my brain hurt
[00:02] <bobweaver> prospero1,  yeah  in terminal
[00:02] <bobweaver> ubuntu-bug firmware-b43-installer
[00:02] <bobweaver> !bug | prospero1
[00:03] <bobweaver> prospero1,  maybe title can be part of error msg in dmesg about the firmware that is missing
[00:04] <bobweaver> !bug 1045533 | prospero1  or you can just check that this affects you also
[00:05] <mattt__> Why would I be able to successfully use sudo or su in bash, but not in zsh?
[00:05] <bobweaver> or maybe file against jockey-gtk because it is not pulling it in auto style
[00:05] <prospero1> im on it didnt have launchpad acc
[00:06] <bobweaver> prospero1,  thanks for making Ubuntu better by filing bugs =)
[00:07] <prospero1> no prob, but what best to say in summary?
[00:09] <almoxarife> what apt-get command will show me the installed packages in size order, biggest first?
[00:10] <george___> ubuntu people suck donkey dicks...fuck them up their ass
[00:11] <almoxarife> george seems angry
[00:11] <mattt__> what gave you that impression?
[00:11] <almoxarife> mattt__: :)
[00:11] <mattt__> :P
[00:11] <Rosbuntu> :P
[00:11] <almoxarife> !apt
[00:15] <blackshirt> hello
[00:15] <prospero1> bobweaver: how best should i describe it? put dmesg in?
[00:16] <blackshirt> was ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as a platform supported ?
[00:17] <maylow> hi
[00:17] <maylow> ik need help with grub install from live cd
[00:17] <blackshirt> hi maylow
[00:17] <maylow> Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[00:17] <bobweaver> maybe jockey-gtk is not installing linux-firmware-nonfree     then you can passte the errors that you where getting
[00:17] <maylow> here is my problme
[00:17] <bobweaver> sorry prospero1  ^^^
[00:17] <maylow> hi blackshirt
[00:18] <maylow> anyone any ideas?
[00:18] <blackshirt> you can boot through live cd and enter recover console to reinstall your grub... But exactly,why do you want to reinstall your grub?
[00:19] <maylow> blackshirt: i am in a chroot
[00:20] <maylow> blackshirt: and grub-install yelds
[00:20] <maylow> 0
[00:20] <maylow> Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[00:20] <maylow> the root fs is restored by fsarchivert from another hdd
[00:27] <Rosbuntu> i dont understand why ppl use ubuntu when they have xp or windows 7 pirated
[00:27] <Rosbuntu> :p
[00:27] <bobweaver> wonder whats on that pirated stuff ;)
[00:28] <jrib> Rosbuntu: #ubuntu-offtopic for that; this channel is for support with ubuntu :)
[00:28] <Rosbuntu> jrib ;)
[00:32] <linuxmintmaya> so
[00:33] <linuxmintmaya> anyone know how to get mouse bindings to be persistent
[00:33] <OerHeks> in linux mint?
[00:33] <linuxmintmaya> in ubuntu based distros
[00:33] <linuxmintmaya> its all relatively the same
[00:33] <linuxmintmaya> it has to do with xinput
[00:33] <bindir> I'm trying to rename recursively all files that have : in the name to - but sed/awk are puking and so is python
[00:34] <linuxmintmaya> I need a certain xinput command to be run at startup...but after my mouse has been properly identified.....
[00:34] <linuxmintmaya> how do i do that
[00:34] <bindir> we rsynced a volume from mac to zfs and it changed a bunch of stuff to the :
[00:34] <linuxmintmaya> I am currently having to unplug and replug my mouse every startup to get it to be reckognized
[00:34] <linuxmintmaya> why?
[00:35] <bindir> linuxmintmaya: is this in a VM?
[00:35] <linuxmintmaya> vm?
[00:35] <bindir> virtual machine
[00:35] <linuxmintmaya> no
[00:35] <bindir> oh
[00:35] <linuxmintmaya> on a dualboot system
[00:35] <linuxmintmaya> mint13 and win7
[00:35] <bindir> wired mouse?
[00:35] <linuxmintmaya> yes wired
[00:35] <OerHeks> sounds like a mint issue, install ubuntu for the real deal.
[00:35] <bindir> plugged into a usb 2.0 port?
[00:36] <linuxmintmaya> http://oi48.tinypic.com/2dkwshi.jpg
[00:36] <linuxmintmaya> check it'
[00:36] <linuxmintmaya> yes usb 2.0
[00:36] <bindir> hmm I've seen that with keyboard/mice in usb 3.0 ports
[00:36] <linuxmintmaya> HID compliant mouse
[00:36] <linuxmintmaya> its listed twice for some reason...that might be the problem
[00:36] <linuxmintmaya> is there some way to fix that?
[00:36] <iceroot> !mint | linuxmintmaya
[00:36] <bindir> not sure I haven't really used a mice much with linux
[00:37] <linuxmintmaya> they cant help me...there are no gurus there
[00:37] <iceroot> linuxmintmaya: doesnt matter
[00:37] <linuxmintmaya> been at it for days now
[00:37] <iceroot> linuxmintmaya: this is for ubuntu not mint
[00:37] <linuxmintmaya> mint is ubuntu btw
[00:37] <linuxmintmaya> herp derp
[00:37] <bindir> based on*
[00:37] <iceroot> linuxmintmaya: its offtopic here, please respect that
[00:37] <NaZZaX> hey whats the file in apache that allows http access
[00:37] <bindir> .htaccess?
[00:38] <iceroot> ubuntuprecise17: stop it
[00:38] <ubuntuprecise17> there happy
[00:38] <ubuntuprecise17> please help linux mint community is lacking in volume and the help crosses over
[00:39] <iceroot> ubuntuprecise17: as i said already, stop it, mint is offtopic here
[00:39] <bindir> install ubuntu, then install  apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[00:39] <bindir> and y ou have ubuntu with gnome if that's why you're using mint
[00:39] <ubuntuprecise17> I need to execute a startup command after my mouse has been id'd by xinput
[00:40] <ubuntuprecise17> this is a LINUX related question not a mint one
[00:40] <iceroot> ubuntuprecise17: are you a troll?
[00:40] <iceroot> ubuntuprecise17: please go to the mint support channel
[00:40] <bindir> he kinda has a point
[00:40] <ubuntuprecise17> like i already said....no one there can help, please dont be a dick
[00:40] <iceroot> ubuntuprecise17: we dont care, we support ubuntu here and now stop it please
[00:41] <ubuntuprecise17> my os is pretty much identical to yours so why wont you help me?
[00:41] <OerHeks> bindir, mint has its own issues, not related to ubuntu.
[00:41] <bindir> xinput set-prop "whatever you need set etc"
[00:41] <NaZZaX> i am working on openstack horizon with ms Active directory LDAP
[00:41] <NaZZaX> and i am getting Not Authorized
[00:42] <wubino> is there anyway to install firefox16 from apt?
[00:42] <ubuntuprecise17> if you look here
[00:42] <iceroot> wubino: sudo apt-get install firefox
[00:42] <ubuntuprecise17> http://oi48.tinypic.com/2dkwshi.jpg
[00:42] <iceroot> !info firefox
[00:42] <bindir> btw ubuntuprecise17: http://bit.ly/X67uSy
[00:42] <iceroot> hm
[00:42] <ubuntuprecise17> you can see that xinput is naming my mouse twice and I think that might be the problem
[00:43] <bindir> have been to the website google and typed your exact question in to the search box yet?
[00:43] <iceroot> strange, my firefox is ff17 why does ubottu tell me its 15
[00:43] <IdleOne> ubuntuprecise17: This channel does not support Mint. Please stop asking in here, you might try ##linux if your distros channel can't help you
[00:43] <OerHeks> me too iceroot
[00:43] <wubino> iceroot: apt wants to install 17
[00:43] <bindir> so anyone know shell scripting at all?
[00:44] <RiXtEr> bindir, join #bash
[00:44] <iceroot> OerHeks: ah its because its in precise-updates and precise-security but ubottu is only checking the main repo
[00:44] <ubuntuprecise17> thanks for nothing, way to support the linux community
[00:44] <bindir> thanks
[00:44] <OerHeks> any 6 weeks there is a new firefox
[00:45] <wubino> iceroot:  it autoupdates for one and canonical looks lke they have been keeping up with mozilla releases from my cl
[00:45] <iceroot> wubino: from the normal ubuntu-repos you will not get ff16
[00:46] <iceroot> wubino: the repos are onyl holding the latest version, normally there are not two versions of a program (some exceptions like samba, python and so on)
[00:47] <iceroot> wubino: is there a special reason why you need ff16?
[00:47] <prospero1> who can tell me a good intro book to linux
[00:47] <wubino> iceroot: thanks that is what I suspected
[00:48] <wolfygang> does anyone know about android kernels?
[00:49] <IdleOne> ##android
[00:49] <wolfygang> everyones afk:/
[00:49] <iceroot> wolfygang: offtopic here
[00:49] <IdleOne> wolfygang: be patient
[00:50] <iceroot> are there any ways to run ubuntu on armV6? (rasperry pi?) as it seems ubuntu does not support that architecture just newer arm-chips
[00:51] <IdleOne> iceroot: #ubuntu-arm should know
[00:52] <iceroot> IdleOne: thx, didnt know that
[00:52] <OerHeks> iceroot no, only arm v7
[00:53] <OerHeks> there is a possible download for FF 16 > https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/
[00:56] <puppy_parade> my video in totem is flickering above a certain size, and whenever I try and play on VLC, VLC has no borders/menu bar and is maximized and stuck on my central screen.
[00:56]  * deadly away: [Inativo por mais de 30 minutos] [desde: 21:56, page: on]
[00:57] <IdleOne> !away > deadly-Away
[00:58] <relipse> this is hilarious http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lD9FAOPBiDk
[00:58] <IdleOne> relipse: No off topic links please
[01:02] <OerHeks> puppy_parade, vlc shows menu in top panel, that is called global menu
[01:02] <kn0ne> I installed k3b and two entries were put on Menu. How can I remove one?
[01:03] <puppy_parade> OerHeks, it doesn't.
[01:03] <puppy_parade> even if I ctrl alt 1 there is no menu or borders
[01:03] <OerHeks> puppy_parade, maybe hit F11 ?
[01:04] <puppy_parade> then it goes fullscreen; with the control box disappearing
[01:04] <puppy_parade> hmm, wait it worked
[01:04] <puppy_parade> I've done f11 before...
[01:04] <OerHeks> :-)
[01:05] <puppy_parade> lemme try opening it from a video
[01:05] <puppy_parade> the menu is there now, but no video.
[01:06] <puppy_parade> same issue as with totem, video only appears when the screen is smaller than a certain size
[01:06] <puppy_parade> a size, which decreases over time.
[01:06] <designbybeck__> I have a Dell 17 Studio Laptop running Ubuntu 12.10.. I think it is overheating the system? could this be the case?
[01:07] <designbybeck__> it seems since 12.04 it has been running hotter?
[01:07] <puppy_parade> do you have lm-sensors installed?
[01:07] <designbybeck__> what is that puppy_parade
[01:07] <puppy_parade> temperature sensors
[01:07] <puppy_parade> should be in the repositories
[01:07] <designbybeck__> i'll check
[01:08] <puppy_parade> search for sensors
[01:08] <designbybeck__> looking now
[01:10] <designbybeck__> puppy_parade: i see a xsensors
[01:10] <designbybeck__> oh now i see the lm one
[01:11] <puppy_parade> you have to configure it, iirc, but I always just mash enter.
[01:11] <DaemonicApathy> Is there any reason for me not to uninstall busybox on a standard desktop or server installation? Ubu 12.04
[01:12] <designbybeck__> k
[01:12] <phy1729> DaemonicApathy: is there a reson for you to uninstal it?
[01:13] <DaemonicApathy> phhy1729: Why keep track of updates for something I don't seem to use or need? It's just a waste of space, if it's not necessary. I try to keep my server as minimal as possible.
[01:13] <DaemonicApathy> *phy1729
[01:14] <phy1729> DaemonicApathy: if you want as minimal as possible I wouldn't run ubuntu
[01:14] <phy1729> It's not hurting anything and diskspace is cheap
[01:14] <bug-traq> lucid was one of the better linux versions
[01:15] <designbybeck__> puppy_parade: how is it ran?
[01:15] <puppy_parade> "sensors"
[01:15] <puppy_parade> in the command line
[01:15] <designbybeck__> ah
[01:15] <puppy_parade> it should ask you a bunch of questions, with a default answer set
[01:15] <designbybeck__> ah that doesn't seem to bad right now
[01:15] <puppy_parade> aah, it works
[01:15] <puppy_parade> woot
[01:15] <DaemonicApathy> phy1729: I didn't mean 'minimal' quite that drastically, but you have a fair enough point. Honestly, I just don't see a necessity for it, and wasn't sure if uninstalling would create any problems.
[01:16] <designbybeck__> though i think i'm about to fry an egg on this thing for dinner
[01:16] <puppy_parade> psensors is a graphical interface
[01:16] <puppy_parade> there are others
[01:17] <designbybeck__> thanks
[01:17] <phy1729> It's 1.6M and you're not entirely sure what it does and it's in /bin. I would not touch that. I would read the man page and realize how useful it could be for recovery.
[01:19] <designbybeck__> oh i was looking at c instead of F.... yeah these are running hot and I'm only on chat!!
[01:19] <designbybeck__> i closed Firefox with Facebook open
[01:19] <designbybeck__> so now just IRC
[01:19] <designbybeck__> and the fan is running and burning hot to the touch!!!!
[01:20] <WeThePeople> how do i get wireless working in fluxbox
[01:20] <puppy_parade> for a laptop, shooting the fan with canned air usually does wonders.
[01:21] <designbybeck__> thanks puppy
[01:21] <puppy_parade> or blowing it it to get dust out almost as well
[01:21] <puppy_parade> (with the machine off)
[01:21] <blackshirt> wethepeople, there cli version of network-manager, called nmcli...cmiiw
[01:21] <puppy_parade> also, check to see if anything else is runningf
[01:21] <puppy_parade> sometimes I have compiz chewing away on a core.
[01:22] <relipse>  does anyone know where the tradition came from to originally have it say Mrs. and Mr. <HisFirstName> <HisLastName> at weddings?
[01:23] <designbybeck__> compiz is only about 2%cpu
[01:23] <rhagu> hi, is there a canonical run ppa for newer kernel versions? 3.6 on 12.04 for example
[01:24] <designbybeck__> maybe i have to get one of those usb  laptop cooler pads!?
[01:24] <bug-traq> wethepeople try this to get wireless working on fluxbox ...... install NetworkManager-gnome
[01:25] <user10980495> Can't get images in dillo browser 3. I uncommented "load_images=YES" in dillorc file.
[01:26] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, unable to locate package
[01:27] <bug-traq> hmm thats wierd
[01:33] <poncholinuxero> hi there
[01:33] <poncholinuxero> hola
[01:33] <poncholinuxero> alguien de mexico?
[01:34] <kakkin> hola a todos
[01:34] <phy1729> !es
[01:34] <bug-traq> hey wethepeople ... do you see wicd network manager ??
[01:35] <kakkin> alguien que use Emerald para hacerle una consulta
[01:35] <UbuntuRox> Holly fucking shit my nipple is fucking orange
[01:35] <UbuntuRox> oi
[01:35] <UbuntuRox> sorry
[01:35] <FloodBot1> UbuntuRox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:35] <kakkin> gracias amigo
[01:36] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, i can ope it up
[01:36] <WeThePeople> open*
[01:38] <bug-traq> ok , sometimes an update will remove it and you will need to install the dependencies for it
[01:38] <jesusemelendezm> kakkin como estas?
[01:38] <bug-traq> sudo apt-get -f install
[01:38] <bug-traq> that will reinstall the dependencies
[01:38] <jesusemelendezm> I am trying to connect to my ubuntu machine through SSH
[01:39] <jesusemelendezm> from my android phone.
[01:39] <jesusemelendezm> but It doesn't to work out.
[01:39] <dr_willis-> works  great here jesusemelendezm  ;-)
[01:39] <phy1729> jesusemelendezm: does it have a public IP, is there a firewall?
[01:40] <dr_willis-> connectbot works well.
[01:41] <jesusemelendezm> It doesn't but I am on my SOHO... Small office home network and I am using an C class of IP.
[01:41] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, that didnt do anything
[01:41] <jesusemelendezm> Also I have already sudo apt-get install openssh-server.
[01:41] <jesusemelendezm> should I configure some additional features?
[01:41] <dr_willis-> yor set the routers port forwarding?
[01:41] <jesusemelendezm> connecting through port 22, ssh
[01:41] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, the hardware is enabled but the wifi isnt, idk how to enable the wifi
[01:42] <jesusemelendezm> I haven't.
[01:42] <phy1729> jesusemelendezm: what does "sudo service ssh status" give?
[01:42] <jesusemelendezm> probably that's the reason why......
[01:42] <dr_willis-> be my first guess
[01:42] <jesusemelendezm> the forwarding
[01:42] <jesusemelendezm> let me check ssh status guys
[01:42] <mattrae> hi, ubuntu 12.10 is supposed to add remote login using citrix ica. it doesn't work though.. ica client doesn't appear as an option http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/ubuntu-12-10-login-screen-adds-remote-desktop-access
[01:43] <bug-traq> wethepeople , you running ubu 12,04 ??
[01:43] <dr_willis-> you could forward sime port other than 22 also in case places  blick 22
[01:43] <bug-traq> ok wethe people
[01:44] <jesusemelendezm> yes, guys I am running ubuntu 12.04
[01:44] <jesusemelendezm> I just built a ubuntu machine with 32 RAM for virtualization
[01:44] <jesusemelendezm> I am also running some other linux versions as guests..
[01:44] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, yes.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398204/
[01:44] <jesusemelendezm> but the host is 12.04 desktop but with server roles.
[01:45] <phy1729> jesusemelendezm: can you ssh in from another box on the lan?
[01:46] <jesusemelendezm> yes, I can do it. I just use a laptop and PUTYY software. It works!!! so that means... I shouldn't modify anything in my router. I am within my LAN. I am not going outside the world or from outside to inside the network......
[01:46] <jesusemelendezm> Phy1729... you give me more thoughts...
[01:47] <phy1729> jesusemelendezm: I assume you have a firewall between the internet and lan?
[01:47] <dr_willis-> so.. whats the problem jess jesusemelendezm ?
[01:47] <jesusemelendezm> sudo service ssh status is running!
[01:47] <bug-traq> wethepeople are you sure the wireless card in working ???
[01:47] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, yes
[01:47] <dr_willis-> if the phone is on the local lan it should worl
[01:47] <dr_willis-> work...
[01:48] <jesusemelendezm> again, I am not from outside..I am in the LAN. my phone is other node in the network... my phone has 192.168.0.9 and the ubuntu machine has 99.244.13.17
[01:48] <jesusemelendezm> I shouldn't modify anything in the router...
[01:48] <bug-traq> wethepeople try this in terminal  ....sudo lshw -C network
[01:48] <bug-traq> it will give you a lowdown of what is working and whats not and such
[01:48] <dr_willis-> 99.244.xxxxxxx is the external ip?
[01:49] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398217/
[01:50] <bug-traq> wethepeople is the wicd configured for wlano or wlan1
[01:50] <WeThePeople> wlan0
[01:50] <jValentin> is there some special method to adding a user to the sudoers group in ubuntu?
[01:51] <jrib> jValentin: no, just add the user to the "sudo" group.   You can use the command « sudo adduser USERNAME sudo » if you wish
[01:52] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, it just needs to be enabled
[01:53] <jValentin> jrib: thanks, but I did that and he still couldn't do it until I manually modified the  /etc/sudoers/ and gave him ALL
[01:53] <jrib> jValentin: you would need to login again for group membership to take effect
[01:54] <jValentin> k, if that fails, will try a reboot
[01:54] <jrib> jValentin: reboot is not necessary
[01:54] <bug-traq> thinking wethepeople
[01:54] <jesusemelendezm> sorry guys, There was a brownout and my system went down.
[01:54] <jValentin> ah, you're right, he says he can sudo now
[01:54] <jValentin> thanks
[01:55] <jesusemelendezm> connecting from SSH to my ubuntu machine.
[01:56] <phy1729> jesusemelendezm: how is your phone connected to your server?
[01:56] <madrazr> Hi, I bought a new Samsung Series 9 Laptop with Windows 8 and installed Ubuntu (12.10) on it and I am locked out now, thanks to Secure Boot. Are there any how tos or manuals on how to get through this?
[01:56] <jesusemelendezm> what was the command to check the status of ssh ?
[01:56] <phy1729> sudo service ssh status
[01:57] <jesusemelendezm> my phone is not connected yet. It is using the wireless network IEEE 802.11n
[01:57] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398228/
[01:57] <jesusemelendezm> same subnet.
[01:57] <phy1729> but another computer on the subnet can connect?
[01:58] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, i have the eth0 plugged in right now idk if that is the problem
[01:58] <TeamRocket1233c> What's the chances of one of these playing nice with Ubuntu 12.10? http://www.amazon.com/Hewlett-Packard-Officejet-4620-Wireless/dp/B006M1N850/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1354240353&sr=1-4
[01:59] <jesusemelendezm> what's the command to check the status of ssh server/
[01:59] <jrib> jesusemelendezm: status ssh
[02:00] <jrib> !print | TeamRocket1233c
[02:00] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398233/
[02:00] <bug-traq> wethepeople , do you see a network command line
[02:01] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, idk wat you mean
[02:01] <bug-traq> in the network manager
[02:01] <bug-traq> wicd
[02:01] <bug-traq> its a terminal in the wicd
[02:01] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, network manager and wicd are diff programs
[02:01] <bug-traq> you may have to force wifi enabling
[02:01] <WeThePeople> no i dont
[02:02] <bug-traq> yes but in networkmanager do you see a command line
[02:02] <WeThePeople> no
[02:02] <bug-traq> hmmmm
[02:02] <TeamRocket1233c> CUPS is generally friendly to HP printers though?
[02:03] <bug-traq> wethepeople , what kinda pc you have
[02:04] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, laptop hp zv-5000
[02:04] <jrib> TeamRocket1233c: I doubt you care much about whether it works in general; just if it works with the printer you buy :)  Though I imagine if you just have this thing sitting on the network and using the wireless, it shouldn't be a problem.  Check the links though for that model
[02:04] <yhusha> synaptic is failing to run
[02:05] <bug-traq> you have a broken package yhusha in synaptic
[02:05] <yhusha> o ok
[02:05] <TeamRocket1233c> jrib: Should work though.
[02:06] <yhusha> whats the sudo to find and repair broken packages
[02:06] <bug-traq> go to file i believe it is and click on fix broken pkgs and then try to update or install something from synaptic
[02:06] <bug-traq> its in the synaptic
[02:07] <bug-traq> still thinking wethepeople
[02:07] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, lol..ok
[02:08] <bug-traq> if ya seen the command line in networkmanager i have the command to force enable wireless
[02:08] <bug-traq> you might be able to try it on terminal , i havent tried it b4 , but it may work ???
[02:09] <linux_lover> Hello Helpers. Is there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight on boot, xubuntu 12.10?
[02:09] <bug-traq> wethepeople try this in terminal ....      nmcli nm wifi on
[02:10] <jesusemelendezm> done guys!
[02:10] <WeThePeople> bug-traq, it worked
[02:10] <WeThePeople> thanks
[02:11] <jesusemelendezm> the problem was that I was using the HOST NAME instead of the HOST IP!!! I am connected now from my android phone to my ubuntu home server!!!! SSH
[02:11] <linux_lover> Is there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?
[02:12] <jesusemelendezm> thank you all
[02:12] <linux_lover> Is there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?
[02:14] <linux_lover> Is there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight of my DELL XPS 14z on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?
[02:15] <dr_willis-> checked askubuntu.com yet linux_lover ?
[02:15] <linux_lover> dr_willis, not yet
[02:16] <bug-traq> anytime wethepeople
[02:16] <bug-traq> glad to be able to help ya
[02:17] <linux_lover> my question is too specific.
[02:17] <linux_lover> i just looked there is no similar problem
[02:17] <jesusemelendezm> I am thinking to buy the DELL vostro with ubuntu... or System 76
[02:17] <jesusemelendezm> any recommendation?
[02:17] <Programmer_> do you like linux, linux_lover
[02:17] <linux_lover> only found solution on macbooks
[02:17] <linux_lover> i dumped windows after 20 years
[02:17] <linux_lover> last week
[02:17] <bug-traq> wethepeople sometimes if you do a kernel update or upgrade , you may have to do that , ya may wanna save it somewhere
[02:18] <lindenle_> everytime ubuntu updates the kernel it takes forever and takes moy load up to 100%, has anyone sean this before
[02:18] <linux_lover> in short, yes
[02:18] <TeamRocket1233c> jesusemelendezm: System76 would probably be your best bet due to the higher likelihood of all the hardware being fully compatible with Ubuntu.
[02:18] <bug-traq> ewwwwwwwwwwwww    windows
[02:18] <bug-traq> thats a dirty word
[02:18] <Programmer_> lol
[02:18] <Programmer_> ive been using linux for about 2-3 years
[02:18] <Programmer_> what distro you on?
[02:18] <bug-traq> last windows i had was 98 se
[02:18] <TeamRocket1233c> I'm very close to ditching MS.
[02:18] <linux_lover> i used linux since 2001
[02:19] <lindenle_> seems to be the depmod run, is this normal?
[02:19] <linux_lover> but only recently moved to windows completely
[02:19] <bug-traq> i stay with lucid, to me it is the fasdtest and most reliable
[02:19] <bug-traq> fastest
[02:19] <bug-traq> lol
[02:19] <linux_lover> but only recently moved to linux completely
[02:19] <TeamRocket1233c> 'Bout 95% switched over to Ubuntu, the other 5% that's holding me back is no web connection in my bedroom, and a sucky web connection.
[02:19] <Programmer_> so you on windows now?
[02:19] <linux_lover> because i can run windows within
 but only recently moved to windows completely
[02:20] <linux_lover> sorry that was a mis-type
[02:20] <Programmer_> i only use windows for LoL and MS Office
[02:20] <linux_lover> linux is snappu
[02:20] <linux_lover> snappy
[02:20] <TeamRocket1233c> Programmer_: LibreOffice. Practically identical to MS Office.
[02:20] <linux_lover> can any of you please help me
[02:20] <Programmer_> but my job forces me to use completely windows b/c i manage windows server and pcs :(
[02:20] <bug-traq> <--- pouring my last little drink of beer out and saying it is windows , lol the last drink is spit anyways
[02:20] <bug-traq> lol
[02:20] <Programmer_> TeamRocket1233c, i know but still
[02:21] <linux_lover>  Is there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight of my DELL XPS 14z on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?
[02:21] <Programmer_> why would you want to disable?
[02:21] <linux_lover> not disable completely, but only switch on on demand
[02:22] <linux_lover> but not on boot, as I have to switch it off every time.
[02:22] <linux_lover> sometimes when the lights are on, i cant see the keys
[02:22] <seednode> I just use a Thinklight
[02:22] <asterismo> XBMC captures my mouse in the external monitor and i cannot move the mouse outside it, to another monitor
[02:23] <asterismo> what should i do?
[02:23] <linux_lover>  anyone can help my earlier question?
[02:23] <TeamRocket1233c> Programmer_: But yeah, Ubuntu, and Linux in general but especially Ubuntu > Windows.
[02:23] <linux_lover> Is there a way I can disable the keyboard backlight of my DELL XPS 14z on boot, using xubuntu 12.10?
[02:26] <TeamRocket1233c> Programmer_: More secure and stable than Windows, handles resources better, and is free, but that's a given, the part about Ubuntu that really makes it better than Windows is Unity.
[02:26] <linux_lover> i hate unity
[02:26] <seednode> I love unity
[02:26] <linux_lover> that is why i'm using xubuntu
[02:26] <TeamRocket1233c> Me too.
[02:26] <bug-traq> me too i disabled it and running classic
[02:27] <linux_lover> i have i7 8gb SSD and xubuntu
[02:27] <TeamRocket1233c> Searching for apps with the Dash and opening them via the Launcher actually seems quicker to me than searching through menus.
[02:27] <yhusha> so theres no way to fix broken packages because synaptic wont run in admin more
[02:27] <yhusha> mode
[02:27] <bug-traq> never thought bout admin mode yhusha
[02:28] <almoxarife> yhusha: can you explain a bit more?
[02:28] <linux_lover> what is the point of Unity?
[02:28] <yhusha> yea it says that it can not start in administrative mode
[02:28] <almoxarife> yhusha: it?
[02:28] <bug-traq> to me , it is like vista was , with the sidebar
[02:28] <yhusha> which is where all the ability to add remove fix edit so on is
[02:28] <yhusha> it just shows what  installed
[02:28] <yhusha> synaptic
[02:28] <TeamRocket1233c> linux_lover: To make a UI that's quicker to browse through than GNOME 2, basically, and it's pretty effective at that.
[02:29] <almoxarife> yhusha: open a terminal
[02:29] <yhusha> all set
[02:29] <cyphase> gah, gwibber is raising "OperationalError: disk I/O error"
[02:29] <linux_lover> but adding launchers at panels are much faster
[02:29] <linux_lover> and less confusing
[02:29] <almoxarife> yhusha: in terminal, >    gksu synaptic
[02:30] <yhusha> ok that launched it
[02:30] <angelpossum> dam lots o people
[02:30] <bug-traq> more the merrier
[02:30] <linux_lover> any of you from the UK?
[02:30] <angelpossum> i just figuerd out what the heck this is
[02:30] <bug-traq> more questions and more answers
[02:30] <yhusha> and it has ful ability nice
[02:30] <almoxarife> yhusha: something about the applet you have on desktop is not set to invoke 'sudo/gsku'
[02:30] <Programmer_> TeamRocket1233c/linux_loveer just to see you knowledge, how would you back up your account on linux?
[02:31] <TeamRocket1233c> Don't really have an opinion on GNOME Shell.
[02:31] <linux_lover> my account?
[02:31] <angelpossum> o Pokemon
[02:31] <linux_lover> i have my account with HSBC not with ubuntu
[02:31] <TeamRocket1233c> Didn't get into it enogh to develop an opinion.
[02:31] <angelpossum> am i invisible someone anser me
[02:31] <yhusha> yes it started with the use of the e17 gui
[02:31] <almoxarife> angelpossum: your not
[02:31] <TeamRocket1233c> angelpossum: Wobba!
[02:32] <angelpossum> o cool i thought i set this up wtong
[02:32] <angelpossum> lol
[02:32] <angelpossum> wobbafei
[02:32] <linux_lover> angelpossum I cannot see you, where are you?
[02:32] <TeamRocket1233c> angelpossum: *Wobbuffet*
[02:32] <angelpossum> what do  o i get it
[02:32] <yhusha> e17 is of course "enlightenment"
[02:33] <angelpossum> f u yhusha phyc
[02:34] <almoxarife> angelpossum: you have a question?
[02:34] <bug-traq> programmer , you talking about menu and apps or the whole thing backup ???
[02:35] <angelpossum> not raelly well yes how do i send a message to a specifi person
[02:35] <linux_lover> i used Deja Dup
[02:35] <kantlivelong> hey all.. im setting up a raid 5 using mdadm.. im a bit confused on what to do.. i made autodetect partitions on each drive.. the total size will end up over 4TB requiring GPT.. do i need to make a partition on the md0?
[02:35] <linux_lover> it works well to back user-related data
[02:36] <angelpossum> hey any one there
[02:36] <bug-traq> yes angel
[02:36] <bug-traq>  what up
[02:36] <dsa> "sudo mv /xfolder/ /dev/null" doesn't work in ubuntu?
[02:36] <angelpossum> actually im a guy
[02:36] <angelpossum> not much tho
[02:37] <almoxarife> angelpossum: you have a question?
[02:37] <bug-traq> ok , shoulda called you possum then ???/
[02:37] <angelpossum> just chillin bein bord
[02:37] <angelpossum> dosnt matter i really could care less
[02:38] <bug-traq> damn i help some people and learn something new every night in here
[02:38] <almoxarife> !ot | angelpossum<
[02:39] <angelpossum> lol bug traq
[02:39] <bug-traq> anyone in here using linux , do any pentesting of any sort ????
[02:39] <TeamRocket1233c> Which would be better for distribution? Ubuntu Unity or Lubuntu?
[02:40] <TeamRocket1233c> Like burning off and distributing to others.
[02:40] <bug-traq> alot depends on the video card you have
[02:40] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: I mean as far as ease-of-use.
[02:40] <bug-traq>  unity needs a certain strength or more for the full unity to work
[02:41] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: I mean Lubuntu seems like it would be more widely adopted than Unity due to having a more familiar UI.
[02:41] <bug-traq> yup i would say lubuntu
[02:41] <dr_willis-> lubu tu is better for low end bixs. and will fit on a cd.
[02:41] <bug-traq> but then again i still use lucid
[02:41] <bug-traq> lol
[02:41] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: I'm a huge Unity fan, but that don't mean others are.
[02:41] <dr_willis-> but its lacking some  features
[02:42] <angelpossum> hey how do u send a message to a specific person
[02:42] <bug-traq> i am with ya teamrocket
[02:42] <somsip> angelpossum: /msg user
[02:42] <bug-traq> but once i find a distro and and learn it , i tend to stick with it
[02:43] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: I picked Unity up pretty much immediately, but most people would be all like "What the **** is this ****?" when they see it, due to being used to a taskbar and start menu, sorry 'bout the language.
[02:43] <rtg62a> hi, after I upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to Ubuntu 12.10, my display became very dim, and instead of starting X, it just dropped to console mode. What can I do to fix this?
[02:43] <bug-traq> its cool  , yup i can see that
[02:44] <bug-traq> i havent used windows since windows 98 se
[02:44] <angelpossum> did u get it or did i do it wrong somsip
[02:45] <bug-traq> my wife was like that , she was a windows fan and i was showing her linux , she now loves and recommends it to everyone
[02:45] <somsip> angelpossum: I don't reply to personal messages. Do this with someone who is not busy
[02:45] <angelpossum> o so u got it tho
[02:45] <WACOMalt> Hey folks, I am trying to run a transmission-daemon seedbox on my 12.04 server. But when its running I get Error 102 Connection Refused from the web browser when I try to connect. Where are logs for things like this usually stored?
[02:45] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: The reaction I depicted is the general reaction to the Win8 UI, and was the general reaction to Unity when it debuted, and I think people are still, to this day, having trouble with GNOME Shell.
[02:46] <bug-traq> lol yup
[02:46] <WACOMalt> Cinnamon FTW
[02:46] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: Win8's taking a lot of flak just for the Modern UI.
[02:46] <WACOMalt> I dont like my PC telling me I'm too dumb to have a non-dumbed-down UI
[02:47] <almoxarife> angelpossum: chat is welcome on #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:47] <WACOMalt> So anyone know how I can check if my server is running on port 9091?
[02:48] <invisibleheero> Hey guys, I'm unable to control my volumen using the volume control. however I can change it using alsamixer. How to I restore the functionality of the volume?
[02:48] <WACOMalt> also how can I list all users in my terminal?
[02:49] <invisibleheero> WACOMalt, have you looked at the users command?
[02:49] <WACOMalt> nope, no idea it existed :)
[02:50] <invisibleheero> although I think that's the users logged in
[02:50] <WACOMalt> yeah just shows my name
[02:50] <bug-traq> try pulseaudio invisibleheero
[02:50] <invisibleheero> try cat /etc/password
[02:50] <invisibleheero> errg
[02:50] <almoxarife> invisibleheero: did you tweak pulseaudio prior to the sound issues?
[02:50] <invisibleheero> cat /etc/passwd
[02:51] <invisibleheero> I use alsa not Pulse and I just installed ubuntustudio
[02:51] <WACOMalt> holygod, tons of users...
[02:51] <invisibleheero> yeah that's all the users
[02:52] <bug-traq> well i guess for bill gates sake , i hope win8 comes out ok , linux is on the rise big time
[02:52] <bug-traq> lol
[02:52] <invisibleheero> WACOMalt, that's pretty normal though for a server. because you run certain applications at low level
[02:52] <robertzaccour> Is there a way to download ndisgtk as a .deb file?
[02:53] <WACOMalt> I installed transmission, a long time ago, as a web service. No idea what user I used to install it but when I try to relaunch its service as root I cannot connect to the port (9091)
[02:53] <almoxarife> robertzaccour: sure, find it on the web
[02:54] <WACOMalt> Hmm when I log in with one of my new users, I am not in bash, but in some other prompt with just a $
[02:55] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: I'll probably just use Lubuntu for distributing to others to be safe.
[02:55] <bug-traq> if i may here is the link for the deb file ndisgtk  for robertzaccour          http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/ndisgtk/download
[02:55] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: Requires the least resources, and its UI is the most familiar to Windows users.
[02:55] <WACOMalt> Anyone know why I'm just getting a $ prompt rather than bash on login?
[02:55] <robertzaccour> almoxarife: the downloads I found are just 21kb?
[02:55] <bug-traq> cool
[02:55] <WACOMalt> if I type bash I get the traditional prompt
[02:56] <bug-traq>  i havent beeen a windows fan since i learned about linux years ago
[02:56] <robertzaccour> bug-traq: those downloads are 21kb
[02:56] <jrib> WACOMalt: how was your user created?
[02:56] <almoxarife> robertzaccour: why is the size an issue?
[02:56] <WACOMalt> I honestly dont remember
[02:56] <WACOMalt> useradd?
[02:56] <robertzaccour> bug-traq: well my network and wireless drivers don't work in Linux, so trying to get a windows driver running in it
[02:56] <WACOMalt> in terminal though for sure. its headless
[02:56] <bug-traq> all i pretty much know about it , is that vista came out too early and windows 7 is easily fixed with a bootloader
[02:57] <robertzaccour> almoxarife: I'm used to .deb file sizes being much larger. Wasn't aware it could possibly a full program.
[02:57] <bug-traq> oh i got ya
[02:57] <jrib> WACOMalt: getent passwd $USERNAME
[02:57] <WACOMalt> /home/WACOMalt:/bin/sh
[02:57] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: Meanwhile Xubuntu would be the most familiar to Mac fans.
[02:57] <bug-traq> yup
[02:57] <jrib> WACOMalt: you probably want to use /bin/bash, not /bin/sh (which points to dash).  Use chsh to change your shell
[02:58] <robertzaccour> TeamRocket1233c: Actually I think Gnome Shell with Docky would be most "mac like"
[02:58] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: I mean aside from the windows minimizing to the top panel, Xubuntu looks a little OSX-like.
[02:58] <gar> how do i unignore in x-chat
[02:58] <bug-traq> really
[02:58] <TeamRocket1233c> robertzaccour: Where that land Unity at?
[02:58] <bug-traq>  i never really tried a mac
[02:58] <WACOMalt> Thank you jrib, that worked.
[02:59] <bug-traq>  i have worked on them some for a friend  , about it
[02:59] <robertzaccour> TeamRocket1233c: like nothing else?? haha
[02:59] <|Nordom|> I a ubuntu nub, Is there a way to run a windows VM instead of having to duel boot or use wine?
[02:59] <TeamRocket1233c> robertzaccour: lol
[02:59] <WACOMalt> jrib, any idea how I can check if a service is listening on a port? Specifically transmission-daemon on port 9091
[02:59] <jrib> WACOMalt: make sure your user has an existing home directory too...
[02:59] <WACOMalt> it does
[02:59] <jrib> WACOMalt: there's some lsof syntax you can use
[02:59] <TeamRocket1233c> robertzaccour: I could see how the Global Menus and the Launcher would seem a little Mac-like.
[02:59] <somsip> |Nordom|: runs fine in virtualbox here
[03:00] <|Nordom|> somsip:  what do you mean?
[03:00] <robertzaccour> TeamRocket1233c: yeah, applies to Gnome Shell, and Docky is by default at the bottom.
[03:00] <WACOMalt> holycrap lsof is complex
[03:00] <bug-traq> vmware
[03:00] <junglefrog> the ubuntu.com download page is broken
[03:00] <|Nordom|> I am asking can windows run in some kinda of VM so I dont need to duel boot to play games, or is wine a VM and thus I have to duel boot anyways?
[03:00] <somsip> |Nordom|: windows works fine in a virtual machine in virtualbox for me.
[03:00] <jrib> WACOMalt: it's « lsof -i :N » where N is the port number iirc
[03:00] <WACOMalt> thanks :)
[03:00] <junglefrog> trying to download 12.10 64bit
[03:00] <junglefrog> once it goes past the donate page
[03:01] <junglefrog> it starts downloading 32bit 10.04
[03:01] <bug-traq> yes nordom , you can use virtualbox
[03:01] <junglefrog> yeah...
[03:01] <WACOMalt> hmm jrib that returns nothing
[03:01] <junglefrog> someone need to tell the admin to fix it
[03:01] <jrib> WACOMalt: might need to use sudo?
[03:01] <jrib> WACOMalt: I'm actually not sure if that is necessary
[03:02] <WACOMalt> oh whoops this user isnt in sudoers :X
[03:02] <|Nordom|> bug-traq: so you mean I will no longer have to duel boot in order to use window programs including games with a virtualbox?
[03:02] <bug-traq> yup
[03:02] <bug-traq>  make sure to get the guest additions also
[03:02] <angelpossum> hey how do i click on link for msges
[03:02] <WACOMalt> how do I add a user as a sudoer?
[03:03] <|Nordom|> cool, I am duel booting, so is there away to use vitualbox and keep stuff thats already on my windows partition?
[03:03] <jrib> WACOMalt: sudo adduser USER sudo
[03:03] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: You can always try using 12.04 or 12.10 with MATE or Cinnamon, assuming you're the one on Lucid.
[03:03] <bug-traq> when you set it up , make sure to give it enough ram , but not too much that you taking away from the host machine
[03:03] <bug-traq> i am the one on lucid
[03:04] <bug-traq> i have come to love lucid
[03:04] <bug-traq>  it has many , many possibilities
[03:04] <almoxarife> |Nordom|: thats a win issue, you get to resolve that one
[03:04] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: You can get the same functionality from Precise or Quantal if you put MATE on those.
[03:04] <WACOMalt> hmm ok sudo lsof -i :80 returns apache2 as expected, and 9091 returns nothing, so the service is definitely not working
[03:04] <|Nordom|> on my main gaming pc I have 16 gigs of ram... But log into windows exclusively to game instead of my beloved linux... Are there any pitfalls to using windows in a VM ?
[03:04] <bug-traq>  it seeems and additions to the repository i edit works just great and no broken pkgs or worries
[03:04] <WACOMalt> now to find where logs for services are stored?
[03:05] <somsip> WACOMalt: /var/log
[03:05] <almoxarife> |Nordom|: this is not the win-virtual help page
[03:05] <WACOMalt> |Nordom|, gaming simply wont work as well in linux over a VM in windows.
[03:05] <angelpossum> hey how do i click on link for msges
[03:05] <AlexWebr> angelpossum: what does that mean?
[03:05] <TeamRocket1233c> bug-traq: I mean Lucid IS losing support in April, along with Oneiric.
[03:06] <bug-traq> the reaction time will be slower than normal probly , but not much more than that nordom
[03:06] <|Nordom|> almoxarife: as a ubuntu user, I am looking for ways to make ubuntu better for me. I feel that this coversation isnt too outside the realms of the channel
[03:07] <|Nordom|> WACOMalt: is it better then wine? Do you play games this way?
[03:07] <bug-traq> i  have lucid as my host machine and run bug-traq as my virtual and use it to pentest websites and apps with , not much difference to me nordom
[03:07] <WACOMalt> jrib, success! thanks. Though none of the stuff you helped with was my actual issue (I was an idiot and did reload instead of start on the service)
[03:07] <almoxarife> |Nordom|: well, sort of is, your questions are all related to 'how will win act in a vm?' , thats not linux/ubuntu related, at all!
[03:07] <AlexWebr> why wuld I use ubuntu when minix has been arond wayyyyy longer?
[03:07] <WACOMalt> |Nordom|, definitely better than wine IMO, but still expect worse GPU support than native windows.
[03:08] <jrib> WACOMalt: heh
[03:08] <|Nordom|> almoxarife: if you get more publishers to make linux supported programs, I wouldn't be asking these sort of questions.
[03:08] <|Nordom|> WACOMalt: Thx, I will check it out
[03:08] <WACOMalt> ok I'm off, thanks again jrib and anyone else who helped :)
[03:08] <AlexWebr> i want to use ubuntu but i think minix is better.
[03:09] <WACOMalt> I love Ubuntu aside from the UI :P but thankfully on linux that isnt an issue like it is on Win8
[03:09] <AlexWebr> why shuld i use ubuntu over minix?
[03:09] <TeamRocket1233c> AlexWebr: Newer stuff.
[03:09] <|Nordom|> AlexWebr: personal prefence?
[03:09] <AlexWebr> minix has a microkernel tho
[03:10] <AlexWebr> which is superior
[03:10] <|Nordom|> AlexWebr: because if you use ubuntu, ur version of ubuntu will have a rediculous name! Thus it is better!
[03:10] <AlexWebr> can i use microkernel with ubuntu?
[03:10] <buar> people, who can help me with instruction for canon ip1800 printer driver?
[03:11] <AlexWebr> how can i use microkernel with ubuntu?
[03:11] <mylastbreath> i have ubuntu 12.04 dual booted with win7, the upgrade to 12.10 failed because it did not have enough hard drive space.  Is there a way to roll it back to preupgrade or install over it and keep the data?
[03:11] <TeamRocket1233c> I G2G for the night, I'll BBT. Bye! -wave-
[03:12] <bug-traq> teamrocket1233c: yeah i know , but if ya find something ya like and can get around with ease and is setup the way ya want it ... it is hard to set it aside and try something ya have to learn all over again
[03:13] <AlexWebr> how can i use microkernel with ubuntu?
[03:13] <bug-traq> how big of a harddrive ya have mylastbreath ????
[03:13] <angelpossum> alex did u get my msg
[03:13] <AlexWebr> angelpossum: no
[03:14] <jesusemelendezm> Nordo wrong page..
[03:14] <jesusemelendezm> we know about Linux
[03:14] <jesusemelendezm> we offer free help.
[03:14] <AlexWebr> how can i use minix kernel with ubuntu
[03:14] <somsip> AlexWebr: you cant
[03:15] <bug-traq> later teamrocket HAGN
[03:15] <AlexWebr> i try apt-get install minix and it doesnt work
[03:15] <mylastbreath> over 100G total, it is an acer netbook
[03:15] <AlexWebr> i also tried dpkg -i minix and it says i am not root
[03:15] <somsip> AlexWebr: read up on what minix is
[03:15] <mylastbreath> looking for stats on it, I am in a live usb right now
[03:15] <angelpossum> someone invited me 2  #ubuntu-offtopicand i have no idea how to get there
[03:16] <bug-traq> type sudu su 1st alexwebr
[03:16] <AlexWebr> i did
[03:16] <AlexWebr> i want microkernel in ubuntu
[03:16] <AlexWebr> so i can self heal
[03:16] <AlexWebr> what is the codes to get minix kernel into ubuntu
[03:17] <angelpossum> alex u can read it now alex its a couple msges up
[03:18] <angelpossum> oops i didnt meen 2 say ur name 2
[03:18] <AlexWebr> i googled minix but i cant find codes to get minix kernel into ubuntu
[03:19] <AlexWebr> do i need openbsd modules
[03:19] <mylastbreath> bug-traq: do I have options beside backing up the data and clean installing ubuntu?
[03:19] <TomM2> I was wondering if you could upgrade from a Ubuntu DVD?
[03:19] <AlexWebr> i am wondering if i can use ssh to hack minix into ubuntu
[03:19] <TomM2> Since do-release-upgrade is failing.
[03:19] <AlexWebr> is it possible?
[03:19] <bug-traq> alexwebr : you have to download the iso for minix and use it on virtualbox or any other virtual system
[03:19] <AlexWebr> you dont understsand
[03:20] <AlexWebr> i want minix kernel in ubuntu
[03:20] <AlexWebr> i tar the source code and it doesnt work
[03:20] <AlexWebr> i do
[03:20] <bug-traq> you would probly have to try to get the repository for it and do a distr-upgrade then if you just want the kernel
[03:21] <AlexWebr> './kern.c' and it says '-bash: ./kern.c: Permission denied
[03:22] <somsip> !who | bug-traq
[03:22] <bug-traq> it is possible to get 2 different distros put together , but it may also break your distro
[03:22] <AlexWebr> how do i fix my error?
[03:22] <bug-traq> sorry all , i was talking to alexwebr
[03:22] <bug-traq> lol
[03:23] <bug-traq>  my bad
[03:23] <AlexWebr> why does nobody help me
[03:23] <somsip> bug-traq: you're trying to be helpful which is cool
[03:23] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr:  You can run a .c file, you have to compile it first
[03:24] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr:  Can't
[03:24] <AlexWebr> Sazhen86: what is compile?
[03:24] <bug-traq> somsip:i just got lost in the typing, i am a 1 finger typer, lol
[03:24] <somsip> bug-traq: use tab for autocompletion of names
[03:24] <somsip> !tab | bug-traq
[03:24] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr:  A compiler turns source code into executable code
[03:25] <AlexWebr> Sazhen86: oh, i know c
[03:25] <bug-traq> somsip:thank you
[03:25] <AlexWebr> i got a+
[03:25] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr:  Getting a Minix kernel into Linux could take a lot of work though
[03:26] <somsip> AlexWebr: and it wouls not be supported here as it is not an official package
[03:26] <AlexWebr> you guys are smart though. what are the codes?
[03:26] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr:   Not me!  I'm happy with the Linux kernel
[03:26] <AlexWebr> somsi that is okay
[03:26] <BinaryCrystal> Any tips on removing lightdm and unity?
[03:27] <bug-traq> AlexWebr: try this link and it explains how to add minix to ubuntu   http://wiki.minix3.org/en/DevelopersGuide/UsingGit
[03:27] <AlexWebr> Sazhen86: you shodnlt be because microkernel is superior
[03:28] <AlexWebr> Sazhen86: linux is complet shit
[03:28] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr: That's a step too far, I fear
[03:28] <BinaryCrystal> AlexWebr: I agree
[03:28] <AlexWebr> Sazhen86: because it is written on top of mach
[03:28] <somsip> bug-traq: that page is about minix development. It has nothing to do with ubuntu from what I can tell
[03:29] <bug-traq> BinaryCrystal: you can disable unity , not sure about the  lightdim
[03:29] <AlexWebr> so how do i run c file?
[03:30] <BinaryCrystal> bug-traq: is there anyway I can completely replace it, or avoid installation in the first place?
[03:30] <AlexWebr> i want to run minix kernel in ubuntu
[03:30] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr: You compile it first
[03:30] <AlexWebr> what does it mean
[03:30] <somsip> AlexWebr: it's time to stop now. You have been told many times that this is not supported in this channel. Please desist
[03:30] <AlexWebr> okay
[03:30] <mylastbreath> BinaryCrystal: are you looking to remove it and use a different windows manager?  What windows manager do you want to use?
[03:30] <bug-traq> somsip: i am looking at it right now and it is telling the commands how to install minix clone repository and stuff
[03:31] <somsip> bug-traq: for minix development, yes. But can we move off this topic?
[03:31] <BinaryCrystal> mylastbreath: more than likely dwm or awesome
[03:32] <bug-traq> somsip:  thank you , because alexwebr was looking anyway
[03:32] <somsip> BinaryCrystal: you can installed awesome to work with gnome for a tryout
[03:32] <AlexWebr> somsip: but ubuntu is about choice
[03:32] <somsip> AlexWebr: and this channel is about support for official packages
[03:32] <BinaryCrystal> somsip: arent' the kernel build tools official packages?
[03:33] <AlexWebr> somsip: minix is very official
[03:33] <somsip> BinaryCrystal: he is asking about integrating a minix kernel in ubuntu, which is offtopic
[03:33] <AlexWebr> somsip: it has been around longer than linux in fact
[03:33] <somsip> AlexWebr: offical *ubuntu*packages. Stop it now. I'm being polite. Can you respect the purposes of this channel please?
[03:34] <bug-traq> everyone , have a great night  , time for bed to get up for work in 6 hrs
[03:34] <AlexWebr> okay somsip i am sorry
[03:34] <mylastbreath> BinaryCrystal: not sure about preventing Unity from installing at all.  might be able to change the sources for where it pulls the repos from.
[03:34] <bug-traq> <------- pooooooooooooooooooof
[03:35] <AlexWebr> i have another question
[03:35] <AlexWebr> an ubuntu pros here
[03:35] <BinaryCrystal> mylastbreath: wouldn't that mean you have to modify the install media to avoid the repos?
[03:35] <kvothetech_> AlexWebr: just asx
[03:35] <somsip> BinaryCrystal: if you want to avoid the standard light-dm/unity thingy, it might be easier to do a minimal install, then install awesome and a login manager over that. I did that with slim and awesome. Works fine and is cleaner than trying to remove standard packages
[03:36] <somsip> AlexWebr: thank you
[03:37] <BinaryCrystal> somsip: hmm that's what I thought I could do but doesn't the minimal install include the GUI components
[03:37] <AlexWebr> how do i write kernel module
[03:37] <AlexWebr> i want to help linux
[03:37] <mylastbreath> BinaryCrystal: yes, it would, and then if you felt so inclined to, roll your own customized version.  somsip's suggestion is cleaner though.
[03:37] <seednode> AlexWebr: What programming languages do you know?
[03:37] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr:   http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/2.6/html/lkmpg.html
[03:37] <kvothetech_> AlexWebr: do you know any programming preferably c?
[03:38] <AlexWebr> i took c in school
[03:38] <AlexWebr> i know about object, class, bytecode
[03:38] <AlexWebr> i got a+
[03:38] <somsip> AlexWebr: I somehow doubt this is a genuine request from you after your talk about minix, but here: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved
[03:39] <AlexWebr> somsip: i am sorry i am new to opensource
[03:39] <BinaryCrystal> Thanks guys :)
[03:39] <BinaryCrystal> This also relates to AlexWebr s question, can I program modules in other languages other thatn C?
[03:39] <somsip> AlexWebr: And here for kernel http://kernel.org/
[03:39] <AlexWebr> somsip: it is just some ugly website
[03:39] <Sazhen86> AlexWebr:  Objects and classes are a C++, Java etc. concept, not C and bytecode is a c# or Java concept, again not C
[03:40] <somsip> AlexWebr: try the FAQ. If you show this level of disdain and lack of initiative, maybe kernel maintenance is not for you
[03:40] <AlexWebr> somsip: i can do it! i want to learn
[03:40] <rtg62a> hello, how do I re-install apt? My console tells me 'apt: command not found'
[03:40] <AlexWebr> somsip: disdain is what
[03:41] <mylastbreath> yes, Ubuntu has gcc, and it can handle quite a bit.
[03:41] <AlexWebr> i will google it
[03:41] <kvothetech_> rtg62a: try apt-get
[03:41] <AlexWebr> somsip: my english is not so good
[03:41] <AlexWebr> somsip: i googled disdain
[03:41] <kvothetech_> somsip: i think he's just trolling=
[03:41] <AlexWebr> somsip: i don't mean to show you disrespect
[03:41] <AlexWebr> somsip: if that is what you mean
[03:42] <AlexWebr> somsip: i am sorry
[03:42] <somsip> kvothetech_: I believe so too. I am being polite, but I'll just ignore him if he gets too annoying
[03:42] <AlexWebr> i am sorry
[03:43] <BinaryCrystal> Should I start out with ubuntu or a different distribution if I want to make a home workstation, mainly for software dev, and some minor web/graphics?
[03:44] <AlexWebr> try minix binrarycrystal
[03:44] <somsip> BinaryCrystal: the official line you'll get in a ubuntu channel is to use ubuntu.
[03:44] <somsip> BinaryCrystal: I use it for web dev. I like the idea of Arch, but found it too flakey
[03:44] <BinaryCrystal> somsip: but I'm asking for an experienced opinion
[03:44] <kvothetech_> BinaryCrystal: up to you what distro you use theoretically all of them can do exactly the same thing
[03:44] <kvothetech_> just some may require more effort to get how you want it
[03:44] <somsip> BinaryCrystal: then try the factoids for !best and !poll
[03:45] <AlexWebr> 1best
[03:45] <AlexWebr> woops
[03:45] <BinaryCrystal> !best
[03:45] <AlexWebr> !best
[03:45] <AlexWebr> !poll
[03:46] <BinaryCrystal> ubottu: okay, i'm ok with distros, but IRC is a bit meh to me (not used to it)
[03:46] <AlexWebr> !poll
[03:46] <AlexWebr> !best
[03:46] <kvothetech_> AlexWebr: stop fucking spamming the bot
[03:47] <somsip> AlexWebr: it does not show the same response too quickly to stop people from doing what you are doing.
[03:47] <AlexWebr> i didn't get to try !best yet
[03:47] <kvothetech_> it said it twice
[03:47] <somsip> AlexWebr: it's the same.
[03:47] <IdleOne> !language | kvothetech_
[03:47] <AlexWebr> oh i didn't know
[03:49] <zecken-droide> moin moin
[03:49] <AlexWebr> for my operating systems course i need to write a kernel so i thought i could put minix into ubuntu
[03:49] <AlexWebr> or use kernel module
[03:49] <BinaryCrystal> AlexWebr: have you tried HURD?
[03:49] <AlexWebr> what is hurd?
[03:49] <somsip> AlexWebr: it's offtopic
[03:50] <AlexWebr> okay somsip
[03:50] <somsip> AlexWebr: feel free to talk stuff like this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:50] <linuxnero> /clearall
[03:50] <BinaryCrystal> AlexWebr: http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/ an alternative free kernel
[03:50] <AlexWebr> freeer than linux, jajaja
[03:50] <AlexWebr> funny
[03:51] <BinaryCrystal> ja
[03:52] <TomM2> I get this error every time I try to run "Update Manager"
[03:52] <TomM2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398333/
[03:53] <kvothetech_> TomM2: do you have pygtk installed
[03:54] <TomM2> Let me check.
[03:54] <somsip> TomM2: and what version of ubuntu?
[03:54] <TomM2> Someguy123, Precise.
[03:55] <kvothetech_> TomM2: if you do is it wherever line 26 is looking for it
[03:55] <Someguy123> TomM2, =_=
[03:55] <Someguy123> tabfail much
[03:55] <AlexWebr> how do I write kernel module
[03:55] <TomM2> Oh.
[03:55] <TomM2> When I tried to see if it was installed.
[03:55] <TomM2> It was not installed.
[03:55] <TomM2> And I tried to install it and this happened, E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-minimal'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[03:56] <kvothetech_> AlexWebr: www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[03:56] <somsip> TomM2: did you upgrade from an old version of ubuntu or fresh install?
[03:56] <AlexWebr> kvothetech_: thank you kvothetech_
[03:56] <TomM2> I upgraded.
[03:56] <AlexWebr> kvothetech_: i will read it and report back
[03:57] <kvothetech_> AlexWebr: don't bother
[03:57] <TomM2> I normally run "do-release-upgrade" but that is failing currently.
[03:57] <somsip> TomM2: yeah - I see a lot of results with that error relating to upgrades. You might need to read through some and get direty with dpkg
[03:58] <somsip> *dirty
[03:58] <TomM2> I don't have time to play with dpkg.
[03:59] <somsip> TomM2: there are solutions out there, but all I'd be doing is throwing ideas from google searches at you.
[03:59] <AlexWebr> How Do I Write A Kernel Module?
[03:59] <TomM2> I have already googled this and it returns nothing relevant to my question.
[03:59] <somsip> TomM2: eg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults/+bug/990740
[04:00] <TomM2> Already tried everything there.
[04:00] <TomM2> Nothing is working.
[04:00] <AlexWebr> i want to make a character device that says lol all the time when i read it, how do i do it?
[04:00] <AlexWebr> what are the codes?
[04:00] <IdleOne> AlexWebr: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not general linux questions. You can try ##linux
[04:00] <somsip> IdleOne: thank you
[04:00] <TomM2> All python-minimal does is throw these errors at me, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1398344/
[04:01] <AlexWebr> IdleOne: thank-you IdleOne
[04:01] <AlexWebr> I am writing the module for Ubuntu. Can you give me the codes then?
[04:01] <somsip> TomM2: that still looks like a broken upgrade problem to me, but only because it was similar to something I had before and I did have to fiddle with dpkg caches for a while to get it working. I can offer you no easy solution. sorry
[04:01] <AlexWebr> I am sorry if my english is hard to read
[04:02] <RickZilla> I'm using a persistent USB install, if I go ahead and install it to my HD, will it keep all my changes so far? Or do I have to start all over again?
[04:02] <IdleOne> AlexWebr: Your English is fine, what is hard to understand is why you insist on asking questions that have nothing to do with Ubuntu and when you do get it, you lie. Please stop wasting our time.
[04:03] <ejo> TomM2: would you consider just saving any important files then doing a clean install of your chosen Ubuntu version?
[04:03] <ejo> there are so many places where clean installs save headaches
[04:03] <AlexWebr> Does a less rude person can help me?
[04:04] <IdleOne> AlexWebr: Nobody is going to be more helpful than me in your case. Please use ##linux for general linux support
[04:04] <TomM2> Hmmm.
[04:04] <kvothetech_> AlexWebr: read the link i gave you then follow the directions then ask your question in a relevant area and you will get a better answer
[04:04] <k1lumin4t1> hey
[04:04] <AlexWebr> IdleOne: you are not helpful to me
[04:04] <TomM2> I'll probably have to do a fresh install.
[04:04] <AlexWebr> kvothetech_: i read some of it it was hard to follow
[04:06] <k1lumin4t1> I'm having issues with network printing on Ubuntu 12.04. I can print through localhost without any problems to a printer, but cannot do it trough network share using neither the process of adding the remote printer on the client using the web interface nor using the client.conf file to specify the ServerName directive
[04:06] <k1lumin4t1> It asks me for an authentication thing which never asked me before
[04:08] <k1lumin4t1> any help?
[04:08] <AlexWebr> not here k1lumin4t1
[04:09] <k1lumin4t1> AlexWebr, where then?
[04:09] <AlexWebr> k1lumin4t1: try ##linux
[04:11] <techlobyte1> how do I view users logged in, in xchat
[04:11] <rtg62a> When I try to start X, I get this error: 'Fatal Server Error, no screens found.' how can I fix that?
[04:11] <kvothetech_> techlobyte1: ? in xchat uh are you connected through a bnc?
[04:12] <techlobyte1> what's a bnc?
[04:12] <techlobyte1> xchat-gnome
[04:12] <techlobyte1> screwing with my head
[04:13] <BinaryCrystal> http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3rz9i2/
[04:13] <ripper> bnc brittish naval connector
[04:14] <techlobyte1> bnc BiNary Crystal
[04:14] <Sazhen86> techlobyte1: It's short for a bouncer
[04:15] <techlobyte1> I dream of having a bouncer, but not that I know of
[04:15] <techlobyte1> he could go to the bar with me and throw out the bartender
[04:15] <IdleOne> !ot
[04:18] <ripper> man im board
[04:18] <ripper> need something to do
[04:20] <robertzaccour> My new laptop's network and wireless cards currently don't work in Linux. What are the odds of them soon being compatible?
[04:28] <TaJMoX> I installed Windows on a second partition, now I can't get back into Linux. What's the best way to install a boot loader in that situation?
[04:29] <TaJMoX> Link would work thanks
[04:30] <somsip> TaJMoX: you may need a live CD and boot-repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:30] <jerry_l1> which ver of windows?
[04:30] <TaJMoX> somsip Thanks that looks perfect
[04:30] <TaJMoX> jerry_l1 Windows 8
[04:31] <somsip> TaJMoX: ah - you may need to find some up to date info regarding win8. I have no idea if it does somethign unexpected by boot-repair
[04:32] <robertzaccour> how do you force install 32 bit packages?
[04:32] <jerry_l1> can you look up dual boot Vista a ubuntu.
[04:32] <jerry_l1> you said win8 and ubuntu?
[04:32] <dr_willis> robertzaccour: what packages?
[04:34] <robertzaccour> dr_willis: my network and wireless cards aren't compatible with ubuntu, so I decided to download ndisgtk .deb file and my wireless driver from toshiba. my plan was to install ndisgtk and use it to install my windows driver. problem is it says wrong architechture. I forgot how to force install 32 bit packages.
[04:35] <BlackWeb> I'm running Ubuntu Server 12.04, Which I was wondering if its possible to have my server set up to stream movies from the Hard Drive Over WAN? Right now I have it set to SSH, & VSFTP into it, & Heard you can do something similar with NFS but Loooking into all options?
[04:36] <dr_willis> i would think there are 64bit ndisgtk packages. or course  if the chipsets are too new for 12.10 to work id bet they are too new for ndisgtk also.  testing with 13.04 may be a good idea to see if it works in there.
[04:36] <dr_willis> ive rarely seen a wired nic not work
[04:37] <robertzaccour> dr_willis: already tried the latest 13.04 build, no dice.
[04:37] <evilmoo> robertzaccour: what does 'lspci|grep Ethernet' say?
[04:38] <robertzaccour> evilmoo: in windows now
[04:38] <evilmoo> ah
[04:38] <Ben64> how do i make isc-dhcp-server start on boot
[04:38] <dr_willis> what kind of card does windows say it is? ;)
[04:39] <robertzaccour> just found a 64 bit .deb of ndisgtk I'll try that
[04:39] <robertzaccour> glad I found it
[04:39] <dr_willis> its possible one of the current driver/modules would woek with it.. but its not detecting the right chipet to load the module
[04:40] <evilmoo> robertzaccour: under device manager, go to network devices, find the card, pick the 'details' tab, and pick 'Hardware Ids'. what does the first line say?
[04:40] <robertzaccour> evilmoo: my wireless card is a Realtek RT8723AE
[04:40] <nardev> is there a way to listen serial port at 9600 bits per second at ttyACM0
[04:40] <nardev> is there a way to listen serial port at 9600 bits per second at ttyACM0
[04:41] <robertzaccour> gonna test my luck here with ndisgtk thanks later yall
[04:41] <evilmoo> robertzaccour: good luck
[04:41] <dr_willis> listen?  try a serial terminal program line  minicom?
[04:41] <k1lumin4t1> I'm having issues with network printing on Ubuntu 12.04. I can print through localhost without any problems to a printer, but cannot do it trough network share using neither the process of adding the remote printer on the client using the web interface nor using the client.conf file to specify the ServerName directive
[04:41] <robertzaccour> thanks
[04:41] <k1lumin4t1> It asks me for an authentication thing which never asked me before
[04:41] <robertzaccour> prefer gui for the most part except for really short simple stuff like install and stuff
[04:42] <NewUbuntuUser> hello
[04:42] <nardev> k1lumin4t1, is it a network printer?
[04:43] <k1lumin4t1> nardev, nope, a local printer through usb
[04:43] <dr_willis> or a shared printer on the ubntu box?
[04:43] <DBoyz> Hi. How do i change DNS settings on 12.10
[04:43] <nardev> :( ok k1lumin4t1
[04:43] <k1lumin4t1> dr_willis,  a local printer through usb shared via cups
[04:43] <dr_willis> so you got a windows box trying to print to a samba shared printer on a linux box
[04:43] <NewUbuntuUser> does anyone have any familiarity with installing wine?  I went through the software center, but the application doesn't show up
[04:43] <NewUbuntuUser> only to configure it, remove it, and winetricks
[04:43] <nardev> DBoyz, should be in /etc/resolv.conf
[04:44] <Ben64> NewUbuntuUser: you can't really run wine by itself, you need to run an exe with it
[04:44] <k1lumin4t1> dr_willis, not at all, a ubuntu 10 box printing to a ubuntu 12.04 box
[04:44] <dr_willis> NewUbuntuUser:  wind dosent have an icon like other apps
[04:44] <g00053> maybe this isn't the right place to ask , but when I use soundconverter to convert an mp4 to mp3 the audio comes out gross sounding . can someone recommend a better way ?
[04:44] <subterfuge1750> I'm stumped -- Using ubuntu 12.04 but need a little help at the command line ---- I want to search a directory and all sub directories for any and all audio/video/image files and then have it make a symbiotic link in a separate directory for each file found using the files original name -- can anyone help me with the syntax of this, Thanks
[04:44] <Ben64> g00053: mencoder + lame
[04:44] <NewUbuntuUser> right, I am trying to run a windows visual studio 2010 express
[04:44] <dr_willis> k1lumin4t1:   hmm. then you dont need samba at all . ;) you should be able to use the cups web interface and configure both machines
[04:45] <DBoyz> nardev: but it says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN"
[04:45] <NewUbuntuUser> archive manager won't let it run, so I installed wine
[04:45] <nardev> DBoyz, try...
[04:45] <g00053> Ben64, Lame is saying it's an unsupported audio format
[04:45] <NewUbuntuUser> now all the stuff I look up says to run it through wine
[04:45] <nardev> DBoyz, linux would not be what it is if it was so stupid and strict as windows :D
[04:45] <Ben64> g00053: thats why mencoder first, to rip the audio out of the mp4
[04:45] <NewUbuntuUser> but apparently I can't do that right
[04:45] <k1lumin4t1> dr_willis, where did I say I was using samba?
[04:45] <dr_willis> NewUbuntuUser:  winw 101:   use     wine /path/to/whatever.exe   to run a windows binary
[04:45] <DBoyz> what should i try?
[04:46] <g00053> Ben64, thanks
[04:46] <DBoyz> i mean, what to do?
[04:46] <dr_willis> cups can 'share' via samba. or it can  work as a print 'server'
[04:46] <NewUbuntuUser> ok, how do I look up the path?  I tried navigating to the downlaods folder with cd and ls -a  and nothing was popping up
[04:46] <dr_willis> thats not quite the same as 'shareing'   .
[04:47] <k1lumin4t1> dr_willis, yes, but I'm not using it with samba
[04:47] <Ben64> dr_willis: do you know anything about upstart?
[04:47] <dr_willis> k1lumin4t1:   you should be able to use the cups web interface on the client and it shoudl be abel to scan and see the cups server
[04:47] <dr_willis> Ben64:  the 'upstart cookbook' is the best docs ive seen on upstart
[04:48] <k1lumin4t1> dr_willis, it sees it, but can't print to it
[04:48] <Ben64> dr_willis: yeah i saw that, it's quite a lengthy document though
[04:48] <k1lumin4t1> dr_willis, It asks me for an authentication thing which never asked me before
[04:48] <dr_willis> k1lumin4t1:  check the cups server settings. there may be some security  to resctict configuration to localhost.
[04:49] <NewUbuntuUser> never mind I may just have got it
[04:49] <dr_willis> the cups logs may give some info also
[04:50] <dr_willis> Ben64:  all i know on upstart came from that doc. ;)
[04:50] <pORTER_> Hi
[04:50] <dr_willis> and i only skimmed it
[04:50] <pORTER_> How can i install ubuntu on another partition that is already made?
[04:50] <Ben64> dr_willis: I just can't figure out how to make isc-dhcp-server start on boot instead of isc-dhcp-server6, and 6 uses a different type of config or something
[04:51] <pORTER_> How can i install ubuntu on another partition that is already made?
[04:51] <MestreLion> guys, I have an ATI HD 7770 card, Asus M4A89GTD motherboard, and using buntu 12.04 with proprietary Catalyst 12.6 (from AMD site). Any hints or troubleshoot directions to make sound via HDMI work?
[04:51] <pORTER_> How can i install ubuntu on another partition that is already made?
[04:51] <Sixil> Anyone here know Bash? :<
[04:52] <pORTER_> Batch?
[04:52] <MestreLion> pORTER_: asking the same question 3 times in 10 secs won't help
[04:52] <dr_willis> pORTER_:  tell the installer to use it. and reformat it to ext/3/4
[04:52] <MestreLion> Sixil: most of us do, also the people at #bash are experts
[04:52] <NewUbuntuUser> ok so now I am getting a wine error
[04:52] <NewUbuntuUser> the web platform installer could not start
[04:52] <dr_willis> !appdb | NewUbuntuUser
[04:53] <pORTER_> Thanks
[04:53] <Sixil> MestreLion: I agree, however, #bash is frankly quite dead and I'm not getting anywhere with resolving an issue which no doubt is staring me in the face!
[04:53] <NewUbuntuUser> thanks
[04:54] <MestreLion> #bash dead? Its one of the most active channels I've ever seen.. most questions are answered in less than a minute. But feel free to ask here too
[04:54] <g00053> Ben64, could you give me an example of the command I would pass to mencoder , this is one of the longest manpages i've seen
[04:54] <kieppie2> hi guys. I'm hoping someone can help me out with this desktop. is/was my "old" lounge PC - dual-core 64-bit current ubuntu unity, 4 GB RAM & 8 GB swap, ATI Radeon 4350 HD (HDMI out). all-in-all it's a fairly decent machine by all accounts, but overall performance is *simply shocking*!
[04:55] <Sixil> I try to run this: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/e3de27d3/ but when I run it and agree to deleting the directory contents, it comes back with: rm: cannot remove `/home/sixil/Dustbin/*': No such file or directory
[04:55] <MestreLion> Has anyone made sound work via HDMI when using a dedicated ATI video card?
[04:55] <subterfuge1750> I'm stumped -- I want to search a directory and all sub directories for any and all audio/video/image files and then have it make a symbiotic link in a separate directory for each file found using the files original name -- can anyone help me with the syntax of this, Thanks
[04:56] <dr_willis> Sixil:  you got * quoted so deeply the shell is not parseing it..  rm is seeing the actual '*' character
[04:56] <dr_willis> i was going to guess quoteing.. befor you even stated the issue as a joke.  ;P
[04:56] <dr_willis> Sixil:  using ' when you need "  perhaps
[04:56] <MestreLion> Sixil: did you made this script, or copied from somewhere else?
[04:57] <Sixil> I made it.
[04:57] <somsip> subterfuge1750: dump the files to a tmp file then iterate through it and create the links in a bash script
[04:57] <MestreLion> Sixil: move the /* out of "$all"
[04:58] <Sixil> I just want to delete the contents of the folder, not delete the folder completly.
[04:58] <subterfuge1750> somsip: Thanks, was kind of going that way but have a bit of a time doing it.  I have kind of jumped in to the deep end (at lest deep for me)
[04:59] <jerry_l1> whats GNU bash? is it different than bash?
[04:59] <MestreLion> Sixil: 11: all="/home/$USER/Dustbin"  20 Y) cd "$dustbindir" && rm -rf  "$all"/*;;
[04:59] <somsip> subterfuge1750: find . -name *.mp3 -name *.avi (...etc) > tmpfile. But you will have to find a way to get find to output the full pathname
[05:00] <dr_willis> jerry_l1:  gnu vs 'unix'  ;) the gnu guys rewrote most of the unix commands... years back
[05:00] <somsip> subterfuge1750: acutally. maybe that's not ideal. Sorry - wanted to help but suddenly got a bit busy
[05:00] <DNAtsol> Hi all. excuse my interruption - new to the whole irc thing - trying to recover my touchpad function after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10
[05:00] <Froodle> Problem: the Flash plugin (11.2 r202) keeps crashing Firefox (17.0 and several earlier) when in full screen.  Happens after roughly 5 minutes of playing Youtube videos.  12.04.  Already removed flashplugin-installer and installed adobe-flashplugin.
[05:01] <MestreLion> Sixil: you can also make "$all" an array instead of a string, this way: all=( "$HOME/Dustbin"/* ), and then you can expand it as "${all[@]}"
[05:01] <subterfuge1750> somsip: no worries, thanks anyway
[05:01] <somsip> subterfuge1750: this might help but you'll have to play with the wildcards http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/46047/create-symbolic-links-with-wildcards
[05:02] <subterfuge1750> somsip: thanks
[05:02] <doc|home> is there an official php 5.4 repo or install guide. I can only find this: http://www.barryodonovan.com/index.php/2012/05/22/ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-and-php-5-4-again
[05:03] <somsip> doc|home: no - stuck on 5.3 for now unless you go to a PPA.
[05:03] <doc|home> somsip: bah, ok, thank you
[05:03] <kieppie> hi guys. I'm hoping someone can help me out with this desktop. is/was my "old" lounge PC - dual-core 64-bit current ubuntu unity, 4 GB RAM & 8 GB swap, ATI Radeon 4350 HD (HDMI out). all-in-all it's a fairly decent machine by all accounts, but overall performance is *simply shocking*!
[05:04] <subterfuge1750> Anyone else smooth with bash commands and have a second to help?
[05:04] <doc|home> somsip: can you recommend anyone safe? I don't want to use some random repo
[05:04] <dr_willis> kieppie:  some actual details would help...
[05:04] <Sixil> MestreLion: Well, you see it's just deleting the folder and everything inside it. I just want it to delete the contents of Dustbin, but leave the folder intact.
[05:04] <jerry_l1>  dr_willis: if i am trying to learn the terminal on ubuntu does this affect stuff?
[05:04] <dr_willis> whats shocking about it. ;)
[05:04] <DNAtsol> ***Help needed***: upgraded to 12.10 on a system76 lemur machine and now my touchpad does not respond. I'm thinking a driver needs updating or a switch needs setting but not sure where to look.
[05:04] <MestreLion> Sixil: lines 37-41 uses perhaps *all* of thw worst bash practices...
[05:04] <dr_willis> jerry_l1:  bash should be bash.. on unix, or linux, or bsd...
[05:05] <DBoyz> Can anyone tell me how do i change my DNS settings on 12.10? should i edit /etc/resolve.conf ?
[05:05] <Sixil> MestreLion: Only been Bashing for 2 days, haha.
[05:05] <DBoyz> how do i edit that .conf file by the way?
[05:05] <MestreLion> Sixil: *never* try to parse ls
[05:05] <dr_willis> jerry_l1:  sort of a core idea behind 'posix'
[05:05] <dr_willis> DBoyz:  i just use the netwoek manager gui tool
[05:06] <kieppie> hi dr_willis: general performance is pretty poor. could be GPU-related. this machine is/was my dedicated XBMC host (was headless); now installed unity desktop to be able to play simple games, such as the Humble Bundle games
[05:06] <MestreLion> Sixil: if you want to loop all files in a given dir, use an array:  myfiles=( /some/dir/* ) ; for file in "${myfiles[@]}"; do....
[05:06] <kieppie> it's very lacking for a very capable machine - in some cases worse than my mobile or netbook
[05:06] <jerry_l1> thanks!!
[05:06] <dr_willis> kieppie:  you are using the fglrx drivers?
[05:06] <somsip> doc|home: I don't use PPAs for PHP as I have production machines on 5.3, so I stay the same
[05:06] <jerry_l1>  dr_willis: thanks.
[05:07] <DBoyz> dr_willis: how do you use it? i adding 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 in the GUI tool but my network information did not change apparently
[05:07] <DBoyz> i tried adding*
[05:07] <doc|home> somsip: ok, thanks
[05:07] <Sixil> MestreLion: I mean, it works, without a problem, the only issue is, it deletes everything. Would putting an array up keep the folder?
[05:07] <MestreLion> Sixil: also, don't use echo prior to read... there is already read -p "some prompt or question goes here"
[05:08] <kieppie> kieppie: I am. there was issue with the "official" drivers provided by ATI (needed to enable 3D hardware-accelleration), so had to make use of a backported
[05:08] <kieppie>  "hack"
[05:08] <snoop> hi... it is posible tu virtualize ubuntu on a mac ??
[05:08] <kieppie> via PPA
[05:08] <dr_willis> DBoyz:  theres some setting to set static ip. or everything static. i just set them all.. or i set my routers dns servers to those  instaed of letting it get them from m y isp.. it then gives them to the rest of the lan
[05:08] <kieppie> I suspect that could be part of the problem
[05:08] <kieppie> snoop: yes - VirtualBox or QEMU
[05:09] <DBoyz> ah
[05:09] <DBoyz> i got you
[05:09] <MestreLion> Sixil: rm -rf  "/some/dir"/* will *not* delete the dir, I promise you
[05:09] <dr_willis> or just delete the dir.. then remake it... big deal... ;P
[05:10] <snoop> i try virtualbox with the new version of ubuntu but get stuck the desktop doesnt do anything :S
[05:11] <aboudreault> I've migrated a virtual machine ....... how can I disable LDAP ssh. (I can't login in the machine right now)
[05:11] <Sixil> MestreLion: Well, I put the array in, yet, I get this back: Aborting due to unexpected eof. Fix any mentioned problems and try again.
[05:12] <kieppie> snoop: try an older version of ubuntu - 12.04 or 12.04. but 1st try to get the 3d video drivers working right. Unity uses quite a lot of compositing, so if you don't have 3D hardware accelleration working right, it's a dog to use. also, check that your are able to use from terminal OK
[05:12] <MestreLion> Sixil: are you still using cat and ls > somefile ?
[05:12] <Sixil> Yes. I only changed the all= part
[05:12] <MestreLion> Sixil: also, why are you looping all files just to confirm with user for delete? there is rm -i for that
[05:13] <snoop> ok thanks a lot keep the good work (y)
[05:13] <Sixil> MestreLion: My task explicitly wants that.
[05:13] <dr_willis> Sixil:  i bet spaces in file names will mess you up also
[05:13] <MestreLion> Sixil: rm -i already asks user for confirmation for every file
[05:14] <snoop> kieppie: tnxs for the help
[05:14] <MestreLion> Sixil: do NOT use "cd /some/dir; ls > tempfile; for file in $(cat tempfile)", this is atrocious. You can replace all of this for a single:  for file in "/some/dir"/*
[05:14] <kieppie> snoop: np. dr_willis: if there's a good FLOSS driver for this ATI Radeon that'll give me decent 3D hardware-accelleration, I'd be happy to give that a try. got pointers, please?
[05:15] <dr_willis> kieppie:  fgrlx would work best.. if it works. i dont use ati much these days
[05:16] <kieppie> dr_willis: I use it because it's the space card with HDMI out I've got atm. don't wanna blow another wad of $$$ because of a crappy driver
[05:16] <MestreLion> Sixil: never, never, NEVER  use the output of ls to do ANY file processing. ls output is meant for humans, NOT to be parsed by scripts. for most commands you can simply use the path directly in the command, as in "/some/path"/*
[05:17] <Sixil> Okay.
[05:17] <kieppie> I've not really had *much* issues in the past, but since my upgrade to 12.10, things have gone horribly wring GPU-driver wise
[05:17] <dr_willis> dont parst 'echo *' output eiher. ;)
[05:20] <dr_willis> kieppie:  try reinstalling the fglrx driver perhaps. it may be using the open sourc3ed driver
[05:21] <MestreLion> Sixil: last but not least, some hints: 1 - endent your code, use 4 spaces (or a TAB) when inside an if or for block. makes reading code a LOT easier. 2 - build your vars one from another, to avoid inconsistencies: dust="Dustbin"; dustbindir="$HOME/$dust"; manifest="$dustbindir/.location", etc etc
[05:22] <kieppie> it's definately using the non-FLOSS one atm. in the past I've had better results from those, but this "backported" version might be iffy. I'm thinking I might purge the binary fglrx ones & load the FLOSS ones, but this page does not go into a lot of detail installing the FLOSS one with 3D HA - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[05:23] <MestreLion> Sixil: notice that I've used $HOME instead of "/home/$USER".  Remember the user's home is not necessarily at "/home". Also, do not use trailing slashes when assigning dirs to a var. Makes concatenating paths produce things like "/some//dir//"
[05:24] <phix> Sixil: use something like os.path.join(parentDir, "fileOrDirectoryName")
[05:24] <phix> Sixil: oh and use python :P
[05:24] <MestreLion> Guys, any directions on how to enable HDMI sound output when using an AMD video card? I'm already using Catalyst 12.6
[05:24] <dr_willis> perl!, comal, lisp! tcl!  ;)
[05:24] <SolarisBoy> ruby
[05:25] <phix> ruby :\
[05:25] <dr_willis> i rock at 'rexx'
[05:25] <dr_willis> or at least used to.....
[05:25] <SolarisBoy> ;>
[05:25] <MestreLion> phix: actually, for his use case, he does not any script at all. Everything his script does is the same as rm -ir /some/dir/*
[05:25] <phix> Apparantly people who program in ruby have personallity clashes with alot of people
[05:25] <SolarisBoy> heh...
[05:25] <phix> MestreLion: oh, then why doesn't he just use rm?
[05:26] <MestreLion> phix: ask him, I have no idea. Apperantely he wants -i to be -a (for "ask", I suppose
[05:26] <SolarisBoy> oy?
[05:27] <MestreLion> phix: and he made a 56-line script that apparently does the same as rm -r  with or without -i
[05:30] <phix> Sixil: why Sixil why?>
[05:30] <g00053> anyone know of any methods to write mp3 meta data via bash ?
[05:30] <phix> hai SolarisBoy, are you in the right channel?
[05:30] <phix> g00053: yes
[05:30] <SolarisBoy> i thought i was
[05:30] <phix> apt-cache search mp3 id tag
[05:31] <g00053> many thanks
[05:31] <phix> id3tool - Command line editor for id3 tags
[05:31] <phix> id3v2 - A command line id3v2 tag editor
[05:31] <g00053> my youtube script is coming along nicely :D
[05:31] <phix> g00053: :D
[05:31] <phix> there are also python and perl libraries to do it too
[05:32] <phix> if you want to make a proper script :P
[05:32] <nuf0xx> o/
[05:32] <somsip> g00053: http://phoxis.org/2011/08/24/bash-script-reading-id3v1-tags/
[05:32] <nuf0xx> i would like the cdrom (/dev/sr0) to mount @ /mnt/cdrom or similar ... not in gvfs
[05:32] <nuf0xx> any help?
[05:32] <somsip> g00053: oh....*write*. Sorry, misread
[05:33] <almoxarife> so i got an instance of lxde via vnc running, if i start something that would output sound, should the host at least squak sound?
[05:33] <g00053> all good thanks.
[05:34] <phix> nuf0xx: edit /etc/fstab
[05:34] <phix> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[05:34] <somsip> g00053: http://eyed3.nicfit.net/ also
[05:35] <phix> /dev/scd0                                       /media/cdrom0           udf,iso9660     user,noauto                             0       0
[05:35] <phix> change /media to /mnt if you want to
[05:35] <phix> nuf0xx: and cd0 to sr0 if  you require
[05:38] <nuf0xx> phix: i did that and still no joy
[05:39] <nuf0xx> i take that back... didn't use the udf option
[05:44] <almoxarife> an instance of lxde-buntu-arm-omap4 is running on a rooted-kindle, i am connected via vnc to it, starting something that would output sound, should the host at least squak sound? i dont have anything i vnc into to experiment other than the lxde
[05:49] <RickZilla> I've got 12.10 as a persistent Live USB, if I install to HD will it keep the changes I've made, or will it start over as a fresh install?
[05:50] <dr_willis> RickZilla:  fresh install
[05:53] <almoxarife> dr_willis: what it the magic !xxx for the package containing 'lsusb/pci'??
[05:55] <dr_willis> !find lsusb
[05:55] <dr_willis> !find lspci
[05:56] <kieppie> references online indicate I need to set a KMS value as documented @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting - but the page no longer exists
[05:56] <kieppie> !KMS
[05:57] <kieppie> ?KMS
[05:58] <dr_willis> !dkms
[05:58] <dr_willis> never heard of kms.
[05:59] <dr_willis> dkms may have replaced it
[05:59] <dr_willis> or may just have a similer name
[06:01] <g00053> can someone tell me how to return the position of a character "x" in string "y" in bash ?
[06:03] <phunyguy_t430s> OK, with this question it is about software not included in the repos, but it has to do with a Ubuntu feature.  I am trying to test out Davmail, and it won't show up in the notification area even though it is running.  I remember reading a while back about some icons being hidden, or all hidden with some whitelisted.  Is there still any truth to this?
[06:04] <dr_willis> phunyguy_t430s:  yes.
[06:05] <phunyguy_t430s> I also get a popup about it running on the left side of the screen near the top of the unity launcher
[06:05] <dr_willis> webupd8 or omgubuntu or askubuntu.com should have info on whitelisting apps
[06:07] <kieppie> dr_willis: purged the old fglrx drivers & using the floss ones. performance pretty poor - glxgear pretty jittery
[06:07] <phunyguy_t430s> any way to find out what this icon would be named as in order to white list it?
[06:08] <somsip> g00053: it seems you would be better trying in #bash
[06:09] <kakkin> alguien ahí?
[06:11] <dkannan> what is the difference between the package libreadline-dev and libreadline-gplv2-dev ?
[06:11] <phunyguy_t430s> There it is!
[06:12] <kakkin> zorry all, no speakin very good english
[06:13] <almoxarife> kakkin: i know, gpl?
[06:13] <kakkin> no speakin very good inglish, zorry, spanish yes
[06:15] <gnomefreak> karakedi: you can try in #ubuntu-es  that is the spankish help channel
[06:15] <Tex_Nick> !es | kakkin
[06:15] <gnomefreak> damn
[06:15] <etfb> Does anyone have any tips for reactiving menus in LibreOffice in Ubuntu 12.10 (with Unity)?  Keyboard shortcuts to open menus (Alt+F for File, etc) don't work.
[06:16] <etfb> Googling for help gives ideas that only work for 12.04, so far.
[06:23] <yhusha> hmm the up and down arrow keys stopped working for up and down scrolling: the up and down arrow keys are what control audio volume when combined with "Fn"  and that still works thogh
[06:27] <jakebo> hello, everyone
[06:27] <yhusha> yea...
[06:28] <yhusha> so is this just hobby to everybody in here or does ubuntu cover some of this corporately
[06:29] <somsip> yhusha: just volunteers here
[06:29] <jakebo> haha
[06:29] <yhusha> ever tried e17 gui?
[06:29] <jakebo> i haven't
[06:30] <yhusha> its nice realy prety light too
[06:30] <yhusha> a few bugs though
[06:31] <jakebo> I was a layman for linux
[06:31] <yhusha> it doesn't immediately recognize synaptic or software center from the menu
[06:32] <yhusha> in order to start synaptic for example it requires terminal gksu synaptic
[06:32] <yhusha> haven't eyt config'd it to work rom the menu
[06:33] <yhusha> from*
[06:33] <yhusha> but its way faster than unity
[06:33] <gnomefreak> yet*
[06:33] <yhusha> yea that too
[06:33] <gnomefreak> :)
[06:34] <jakebo> i'm a china man...@_@
[06:35] <yhusha> about to make a partition dedicated to linux os experiments
[06:35] <yhusha> realy
[06:35] <yhusha> wheres that from
[06:35] <jakebo> i want to say something, but i'm not good at english
[06:35] <jakebo> ......
[06:35] <yhusha> ok say DBR...
[06:35] <somsip> yhusha: this is a support forum rather than a place to chat. You're welcome to do chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:36] <jakebo> i want to cry --@@
[06:37] <jedb> I am trying to set up a tftp server and when i type this command... sudo chown -R nobody:nobody /var/lib/tftpboot       OutPut:    chown invalid group nobody:nobody
[06:37] <jedb> any ideas why
[06:37] <crimsonmane> you haven't made a group called nobody
[06:38] <jedb> do i need to create on called nobody or can i use an existing accout
[06:38] <jedb> one*
[06:38] <jedb> or how would i create the group called nobody
[06:39] <somsip> jedb: man groupadd
[06:40] <jedb> woah
[06:42] <kvothetech_> jedb: nano /etc/groups
[06:42] <kvothetech_> though nobody should exist by default
[06:43] <_jas> I'm trying to find how I can add a project to apt-get
[06:43] <_jas> or so it can be installed via apt-get, currently it's a linux package that sits on it's own, and it would be beneficial if I could install via apt-get
[06:43] <jedb> should there be some text in /etc/groups
[06:43] <_jas> are there any keywords I could be pointed towards to start reading? haven't had much luck googling
[06:44] <somsip> !packaging | _jas
[06:45] <jedb> i think i got it
[06:45] <crimsonmane> _jas: there has to be a PPA you can add to your software sources. unless you mean to get the program included in ubuntu's default repo?
[06:47] <jedb> i just added nobody:x:nobody
[06:49] <jedb> it still says invalid group: nobody:nobody
[06:52] <somsip> jedb: how did you add the group
[06:52] <jedb> i edited via nano /etc/groups
[06:52] <_jas> crimsonmane: I'm okay creating my own ppa to add to the software sources for now, it could qualify to get into ubuntu's default repo eventually but I'd like to start somewhere
[06:53] <jedb> i just enterd nobody:x:nobody
[06:53] <somsip> jedb: and you added nobody:x:nobody
[06:53] <alon> hi im getting an error:  python3-dbus : Depends: python3 (< 3.3) but 3.3.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed, how do i override it cleanly?
[06:54] <somsip> jedb: does that format look correct to the other entries in the file?
[06:54] <_jas> ppa looks like it's the right thing to look up
[06:54] <_jas> thanks so much for the terminology crimsonmane
[06:54] <_jas> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[06:54] <jakebo> alon: my be you can sudo apt-get remove python
[06:55] <jedb> i have nogroup
[06:55] <jedb> i think
[06:55] <jedb> its just like all the others
[06:55] <alon> jakebo, i got 210 pkgs that depend on it
[06:55] <somsip> jedb: is the format of the other lines "groupname:x:groupuser"?
[06:56] <jedb> no its like nogroup:x:number:
[06:56] <somsip> jedb: so would you say, that isn't the same as the other entries then?
[06:57] <jedb> it dose not seem to be
[06:57] <somsip> jedb: hence my original advice to user groupadd
[06:57] <somsip> *user groupadd
[06:57] <somsip> *use groupadd ...gah!
[06:58] <jedb> so what would the command be
[06:59] <r4y> Do you all do every update Ubuntu issues?, My brother asked me this which I have wondered for a long time. I know that is a newbee like question, but Ihave been using Ubuntu for a few years now. I just update everything on the list
[06:59] <alon> any1 on 12.10 can install bluez (bluetooth support) and tell me what version of python they are running?
[06:59] <evilmoo> r4y: unless you're sure they're not security issues, you should install them all
[07:00] <somsip> jedb: it's not that difficult...
[07:00] <evilmoo> r4y: also, if you're sure you don't use the packages (directly or indirectly), you should remove them
[07:00] <jedb> it is if you have 3 weeks experience with the linux os
[07:01] <jedb> i did
[07:01] <jedb> useradd -U -m nobody
[07:01] <aezx> I'm trying to boot 12.10 from usb and it doesn't boot. it's been an hour and the cursor just keeps blinking
[07:01] <jedb> useradd: user nobody already exists
[07:01] <aezx> earlier i was getting a missing operating system error, but that seems to have gone away
[07:01] <somsip> jedb: why are you using useradd to add a group?
[07:02] <jedb> fuck if i know
[07:02] <jedb> http://www.edwardcrosby.com/2012/08/20/setting-tftp-server-in-linux-mint-12/
[07:02] <somsip> jedb: watch the language. I told you 'use groupadd'
[07:02] <r4y> I don't use evolution for instance, but I would be afraid of removing packages, I am guessing you don't mean to remove packages not used, but update packages
[07:02] <jedb> my bad
[07:02] <jedb> this is the tutorial im adding
[07:02] <jedb> using*
[07:03] <somsip> jedb: what ubuntu are you using?
[07:03] <Guest90381> use groupadd
[07:03] <sagex> hey
[07:03] <r4y> I've had Ubuntu fall apart from removing something I didn't like, but I can't remember what it was, but that was a long time ago
[07:03] <jedb> omg
[07:03] <jedb> derrrrr
[07:03] <jedb> linux mint
[07:03] <jedb> lol
[07:04] <sagex> I am trying to use a usb bluetooth adapter and It is not being recognized can anyone help
[07:04] <somsip> !mint | jedb
[07:04] <almoxarife> fall apart :)
[07:04] <bazhang> jedb, then get mint support. it's not supported here
[07:04] <jedb> tried
[07:04] <jedb> but o well
[07:04] <r4y> I know things I didn't know then, I could now fix that problem
[07:04] <r4y> I meant the problem I was havinf
[07:06] <sagex> is there a command that tells me what usb devices I have plugged in (dmesg?)
[07:06] <r4y> I meant,  I am guessing you don't mean to remove packages not used, but not updating packages not used is what you meant evilmon
[07:07] <MonkeyDust> sagex  lsusb
[07:07] <D3RGPS31> http://pastebin.com/r5DLi90z is a syslog of when a client pxe boots; it takes almost 3 minutes for tftp/pxelinux to go through the non-existent configs, and every request is repeated 17 times :l i'm using default tftpd-hpa config, this started happening after the latest tftpd-hpa update
[07:08] <stones_> Hi all. I am having some issues with my server load jumping very high. It seems like when I stop SQL the load goes down
[07:08] <stones_> As soon as SQL starts again the load jumps up. Could anyone assist me in figuring out whats going on?
[07:08] <r4y> That's evilmoo not evilmon, sorry, the dark blue I have in use against the black background isn't much of a contrast in comparison.
[07:09] <somsip> stones_: check the processlist in mysql. Check the mysql error log
[07:09] <stones_> How do I check the processlist?
[07:10] <snoop> how i recover the root passwd in the new ubuntu 12.10 ? didnt get to set the root passwd =S
[07:10] <MonkeyDust> snoop  there is no root paswod, there's sudo
[07:10] <somsip> stones_: mysql -u {user} -p, enter password, then 'show processlist;'
[07:10] <somsip> !root | snoop
[07:11] <stones_> ./var/log/mysql.err has nothing in it. Completely empty
[07:11] <alon> anyone here is using bluetooth on 12.10?
[07:11] <somsip> stones_: check /var/log/mysql/error.log
[07:12] <stones_> Thanks guys. Don't see any specific errors?
[07:12] <stones_> 121130  1:51:34 [Warning] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Forcing close of thread 5605  user: ''
[07:13] <stones_> mainly see lines and lines of ^
[07:13] <jakebo> alon: I'm use 10.10 now, and i did not use bluetooth, sorry
[07:14] <somsip> stones_: maybe that will give you something to look into. I see some search results for that error message
[07:14] <snoop> ok tnx..
[07:14] <alon> last question i think: where is the dependencies database stored on ubuntu?
[07:14] <stones_> I see a bunch of logs within the -slow- log file
[07:14] <stones_> not sure if thats related though
[07:15] <snoop> its the force of habit from the other distros =P
[07:16] <somsip> stones_: they are often a performance killer
[07:16] <stones_> whatcha mean?
[07:16] <stones_> Im trying to pin point exactly whats causing SQL to cause a load on my server
[07:17] <somsip> stones_: that's why I suggested watching the processlist. To see if you have queries that are churning
[07:17] <stones_> As soon as SQL is started the load jumps up to 90+
[07:17] <somsip> stones_: is the DB being hit by an app?
[07:17] <stones_> hmm but as soon as I start SQL it crashing the server
[07:18] <somsip> stones_: so, back to researching the 'Forcing close of thread' error then
[07:18] <somsip> stones_: no errors about tables needing to be rebuilt or in an error state?
[07:18] <stones_> Let me google it. Thought that would be me shutting down SQL
[07:19] <somsip> stones_: or *check the processlist* to see if it is doing anything on startup, like trying to repair borked tables
[07:19] <fakixlix> Hola
[07:20] <stones_> How can I repair the tables via shell?
[07:20] <almoxarife> how do i change my locale via shell?
[07:20] <stones_> somsip I have to start SQL for that, correct?
[07:20] <stones_> As soon as I start SQL it crashes the server...
[07:22] <somsip> stones_: ah - good point :)
[07:22] <alon> if anyone cares, python3-dbus is broken since python3.2 and python3.3 are not compatible
[07:22] <somsip> stones_: maybe set the general query log in /etc/mysql/my.cnf to log everything?
[07:27] <jakebo> I would like to ask some questions, but i'm not good at english, what can't i do??
[07:27] <blackshirt> jakebo, you can ask here and describe your problem
[07:27] <bazhang> jakebo, whats your native language
[07:27] <jakebo> chinese
[07:28] <bazhang> jakebo, #ubuntu-cn has a chinese channel
[07:28] <jakebo> Ah, thinks!!
[07:31] <somsip> stones_: two things - I thought you said it hit high CPU levels not that it crashed, and if it's crashing how are you getting slow queries?
[07:33] <stones_> somsip What exactly should I put into the cnf file for this?
[07:33] <stones_> 121130  0:08:37 [Note] Retrying repair of: './likeoi/id_sessions' with keycache
[07:34] <stones_> I see a few of these, does this mean SQL is trying to repair the tables?
[07:34] <somsip> stones_: yes - that's what I was referring to earlier. Are the times current? Or are these old old queries?
[07:34] <G0di> buenas
[07:34] <G0di> alguien me puede ayudar en algo /?
[07:34] <somsip> !es | G0di
[07:35] <Guest91156> http://www.typit.yolasite.com
[07:35] <G0di> somsip grax
[07:35] <G0di> thx
[07:39] <somsip> !test
[07:39] <stones_> 21130  0:08:37 [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Table './likeoi/ibf_sessions' is marked as crashed and should be repaired
[07:39] <stones_> 121130 yep, current... thats todays date actually
[07:40] <somsip> stones_: So I'd suggest looking at mysqlcheck/myisamchk and getting that sorted for a start
[07:40] <stones_> Is there a way I could repair the dbs without starting SQL? Might be a dumb question...?
[07:40] <somsip> stones_: using one of the two commands in my last comment :)
[07:41] <Kartagis> if I attempt to initialise an already in use partition for use by LVM with pvcreate, will that destroy the partition?
[07:42] <blackshirt> Hello
[07:42] <stones_> myisamchk? would that work? Do I have to repair EACH table at a time?
[07:43] <stones_> do I have to go through the logs and see which ones needed repairing or is there a way to check/repair all dbs automatically?
[07:43] <stones_> i appreciate your help btw ;)
[07:43] <somsip> stones_: I don't have experience of these so I would be looking up the answer for you. You would use myisamchk is you use MYISAM tables, so I suspect mysqlcheck for INNODB. And maybe you should fix the broken table first - likeoi DB, ibf_sessions table
[07:43] <somsip> stones_: could be a --repair-all option. Dunno
[07:43] <stones_> argh this gets more confusing
[07:43] <stones_> how do I know if im using innodb?
[07:43] <iceroot> stones_: also have a look at #mysql
[07:43] <stones_> I believe I am, but obviously want to make sure
[07:44] <somsip> stones_: don't know. I know my DBs, so I know what I use
[07:44] <stones_> is there a way to verify?
[07:44] <wopsk1> how do i setup internet sharing on ubuntu 12.04 can ne1 help
[07:45] <somsip> stones_: probably, but I'm not searching it for you
[07:45] <stones_> just checked
[07:45] <stones_> 121130  0:09:17  InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 1 2107935564
[07:45] <stones_> I guess im using innodb than
[07:46] <peter_> is it repository or just package storage? http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/bless
[07:46] <wopsk1> help ne1?
[07:46] <somsip> stones_: different tables in the same DB can use different engines. INNODB engine might be started if it's not disabled in my.cnf
[07:46] <iceroot> peter_: its not the repo, also its debian not ubuntu, dont mix the packages
[07:47] <iceroot> !ics | wopsk1
[07:47] <peter_> iceroot: ok, thanks
[07:47] <stones_> i just dont want to mess anything up here
[07:47] <somsip> stones_: understandable. You should be careful
[07:48] <stones_> whats the best way to make a copy of the dbs first?
[07:48] <somsip> stones_: sudo cp -R /var/lib/mysql ~/Temp/
[07:49] <stones_> mysqlcheck is similar in function to myisamchk, but works differently.
[07:49] <stones_>        The main operational difference is that mysqlcheck must be used when
[07:49] <stones_>        the mysqld server is running,
[07:49] <wopsk1> tried that but no luck is there a program in software center u kno of
[07:49] <stones_> so neither is for InnoDB or myisam..
[07:50] <bazhang> !work | wopsk1
[07:51] <somsip> stones_: some info here, but you should be finding this yourself. I'm trying to help but this is not #mysql http://www.softwareprojects.com/resources/programming/t-how-to-fix-mysql-database-myisam-innodb-1634.html
[07:52] <wopsk1> ur right didnt think ne1 was listening well it dosen't make sense it says go to settings-network-wireless but i dont have a menu on 12.04
[07:54] <wopsk1> i can click on the wireless icon on the top right i dont have an option to create an ad hoc network and thats ot even what i want to do i want to set it up as a hotspot
[07:58] <wopsk1> if i cant setup internet sharing on ubuntu ill be forced to go back to windows...
[07:58] <stones_> OK so SQL runs fine once I stop Apache2
[07:58] <stones_> processlist only shows myself in it
[07:58] <somsip> stones_: is this a live site that you're running?
[08:00] <stones_> yeah
[08:01] <somsip> stones_: and are users hitting the site when apache is running. And would this generate queries to the DB?
[08:01] <Kartagis> if I attempt to initialise an already in use partition for use by LVM with pvcreate, will that destroy the partition?
[08:01] <stones_> started sql first then started apache2
[08:01] <stones_> load average: 0.47, 0.46, 0.55
[08:01] <somsip> stones_: so is your problem solved?
[08:01] <stones_> is there something i can leave open to monitor just in case the load spikes again?
[08:02] <somsip> stones_: who is your host?
[08:02] <stones_> friend of mine
[08:02] <somsip> stones_: ssh with top running then
[08:03] <helmut_> hi
[08:03] <grillinburg> hello
[08:04] <tafelpoot> I'd like to adapt this: http://pastebin.com/w4rkMHbZ to use logical names instead of the tape/by-path/$env{ID_PATH}. Here is a first try on that... http://pastebin.com/uMCdjX6X but it doesnt seem to work as I hoped...
[08:07] <qkit> evenig guys
[08:08] <Kartagis> if I attempt to initialise an already in use partition for use by LVM with pvcreate, will that destroy the partition?
[08:08] <qkit> let say i ssh in to a device , and i wanted to save all the command that i type in that ssh session. How can i save it? if i'm using terminal to ssh in?
[08:09] <somsip> qkit: use something like screen, tmux, byobu
[08:09] <qkit> oh, thanks somsip
[08:09] <somsip> qkit: np
[08:09] <BlackWeb> Does anyone know of a good Video Streamer Over WAn?
[08:11] <tafelpoot> qkit: you can just type 'history' and you'll see all your commands, or in ~/.bash_history
[08:11] <boichev> BlackWeb, VLC
[08:11] <tafelpoot> no udev professionals here? :(
[08:12] <qkit> tafelpoot: but that is already inside the ssh session
[08:13] <BlackWeb> I tried VLC, and Remote system is giving me a error
[08:13] <tafelpoot> qkit: oh, you want to save the commands you give on your local machine, not on the remote?
[08:13] <BlackWeb> I'll play with it some more and see if I can get it to work
[08:13] <BlackWeb> so if the server goes down then in order to restream it I have to start VLC Every reboot?
[08:13] <somsip> qkit: then the answer I gave is not what you need
[08:14] <qkit> is on remote machine, let say..i want to save all the configuration on that device
[08:14] <boichev> BlackWeb, yes
[08:15] <BlackWeb> Alright,  Thanks :)
[08:15] <tafelpoot> qkit: hmmm I don't get it... so you ssh in there and type 'echo bla > /etc/myprogram/conf' and 'cd /bla' and stuff... and you want to save those?
[08:15] <tafelpoot> or really just record every letter you type?
[08:15] <qkit> ok..let say i login to a cisco device using ssh, den i run show run. i want to capture what ever that show in there
[08:15] <qkit> hmm..i think screen can do that..
[08:16] <tafelpoot> okay I see...
[08:16] <tafelpoot> qkit: you can do 'ssh mybox | tee mydumpfile'
[08:17] <qkit> oh
[08:17] <qkit> interesting..let me test
[08:17] <boichev> BlackWeb, there is a way to do it from the command line so you can add it on startup and start the stream automaticly
[08:19] <qkit> tafelpoot: thanks...it works
[08:19] <Sail> i have one strange problem whenever i restart my system he show me the grub menu sometimes an sometimes not it happening this from the yesterday
[08:24] <syskoff> Hello
[08:24] <alex73> hello
[08:25] <alex73> !list
[08:25] <syskoff> Who can help me with LFS?
[08:27] <bazhang> syskoff, the lfs support channel NOT here
[08:27] <bazhang> !alis | syskoff have a search for it
[08:31] <Noskcaj> chromium never seems to get above 41.3Kbps even though everything else is much faster, any ideas?
[08:31] <stones_> Ok its acting up again but this time I have the processlist... what should I look for in it?
[08:31] <pndemc> I installed Zpanel on my ubuntu server, and now I can't launch my game servers, it keeps telling me "No such file or directory" when it gets to either ./steam or ./srcds_run
[08:33] <somsip> stones_: the queries that are running that might be causing excess load
[08:34] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[08:34] <stones_> Do I look for multiple queries or?
[08:34] <stones_>  5697 | forumsforus          | localhost | forumsforus  | Sleep   |   42 |                  | NULL
[08:34] <stones_> I see a bunch of these for forumsforums
[08:35] <somsip> stones_: something that is running for a long time that is causing table locks elsewhere
[08:35] <tafelpoot> no udev guys around?
[08:35] <stones_> well I see that table/db a bunch of times
[08:36] <somsip> stones_: does the server have enough resources to be able to handle this DB?
[08:36] <stones_> with the highest of 53 seconds
[08:37] <pr3d4t0r> Q. apt-get update errors:  http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=45586 - MergeList, dependency.  Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS.  I can't update or upgrade because of this error -- how to solve it?  Vanilla Ubuntu server otherwise.
[08:37] <somsip> stones_: so your schema has problems ore the config is poor or the server is underpowered
[08:37] <pr3d4t0r> The dependency is something in Gnome - which is strange, since this is a headless machine.
[08:38] <MonkeyDust> pr3d4t0r  #ubuntu-server
[08:39] <stones_> yeah ram usage is 90%
[08:39] <pr3d4t0r> MonkeyDust: Gracias.
[08:39] <stones_> but i thought something was causing it to spike up
[08:39] <Sail> pr3d4t0r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1685409
[08:39] <pr3d4t0r> MonkeyDust: I figured it out -- just nuke /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[08:39] <pr3d4t0r> Sail: Checking.
[08:40] <pr3d4t0r> MonkeyDust: This isn't a problem specific to server anyway -- it's a package manager issue.
[08:41] <somsip> stones_: so you need to find out what it is. Troubleshooting servers like this can get complex and it's not something I'm prepared to cover with you here. But maybe you should check indexes on the tables and try to solve your slow queries. But ultimately, you might just find the server is underpowered.
[08:41] <pr3d4t0r> Sail: Right - similar to what I found.  Just force apt to re-read all package lists.  Thanks for your help :)
[08:42] <pr3d4t0r> Have a nice day, guys.
[08:42] <somsip> stones_: or needs more RAM or mySQL config changes
[08:43] <alloccer> May someone help me? I can't find how to install AMD Radeon 7670M Drivers on ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I installed Catalist, but it alerts error...
[08:44] <Surye> is there a way to, remotely via ssh, enable a full VNC session (connect to the login screen, login, have a full session)? I can't seem to find a conclusive answer online
[08:46] <RiXtEr> Surye, if you are connecting with another *nix machine (using X) you can ssh -X user@host and when something needs X it will pull only that app up on your screen.
[08:47] <tizxxx> can anyone explain me why ifconfig and /etc/network/interfaces show different settings? :)
[08:49] <RiXtEr> tizxxx, are you using a desktop environment?
[08:52] <iceroot> tizxxx: ifconfig is reading the current network settings which can be set via interfaces, network-manager and so on
[08:53] <iceroot> tizxxx: interfaces is just one way to edit the settings but network-manager will for example overwrite that settings
[08:53] <ex0a> i keep getting a kernel panic when trying to boot the quantal iso via grub2 loopback: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[08:53] <almoxarife> Surye: the login screen via vnc i think is a no can do
[08:54] <ex0a> i've been googling for a while now but i can't find anything that has worked so far
[08:54] <ex0a> any ideas?
[08:54] <aum__> i followed this link to setup quota http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-setup-disk-quotas-in-ubuntu.html , this is my fstab entery : UUID=d0841a05-14ae-447a-b54e-672e9689e82b /               ext4    defaults,errors=remount-ro,usrquota,grpquota 0       1 , now in  "quotacheck -avugm" its giving "quotacheck: Cannot guess format from filename on /dev/disk/by-uuid/d0841a05-14ae-447a-b54e-672e9689e82b. Please specify format on commandline.quotacheck: Cannot find fi
[08:54] <aum__> lesystem to check or filesystem not mounted with quota option."
[08:54] <FloodBot1> aum__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:54] <tizxxx> iceroot, i apt-get purge network manager, ifconfig shows actual ip, but i want settings from interfaces.
[08:54] <Surye> almoxarife: Shoot, I thought I've done that in the past.
[08:55] <tizxxx> iceroot, i'm using script from opennebula for my vm, it puts rights settings to interfaces file, but i can't figure out how to apply them
[08:56] <almoxarife> Surye: i could be proved wrong, i would appreciate that, i am facing the same dilema sort of
[09:01] <blackshirt> was ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as official platform supported ?
[09:03] <ex0a> i keep getting a kernel panic when trying to boot the quantal iso via grub2 loopback: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) - any ideas?
[09:05] <najwa> was ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as official platform supported ?
[09:06] <paijo> was ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as official platform supported ?
[09:07] <ExUnixGuru> Does anyone know if the Ubuntu installer has RAID drivers available to be innstalled during the install, specifically what is the trick to install Ubuntu on a  RAID?  It errors when I tried to install it on my RAID 0 SSD drives.
[09:23] <almoxarife> i have nothing left to install linux on, i wonder how the toaster would feel about that
[09:23] <cratok> great idea! apt-get install bacon
[09:23] <pupil> Was ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd as a platform officially suported ?
[09:24] <pupil> !bacon
[09:24] <almoxarife> kfreebds? is that an illness?
[09:25] <pupil> almoxarife, why do you say like that ?
[09:25] <pupil> any reason for that ?
[09:26] <almoxarife> pupil: no reason, no
[09:27] <almoxarife> should i expect sound via a vnc connection? on the host end?
[09:28] <almoxarife> !info rdp
[09:28] <almoxarife> !rdp
[09:28] <RiXtEr> !info remmina
[09:29] <almoxarife> !info krdc
[09:29] <voxcroix> hi
[09:30] <phix> hi
[09:30] <pupil> hi voxcroix
[09:30] <phix> how are you buddy?
[09:30] <ExUnixGuru> Does anyone know who I should be directing questions toward?  I need help installing on RAID
[09:30] <RiXtEr> evening philipballew
[09:30] <voxcroix> fine
[09:30] <RiXtEr> err wrong nic
[09:30] <RiXtEr> evening phix
[09:30] <phix> ExUnixGuru: just direct questions to the channel
[09:30] <voxcroix> are you ubuntu user?
[09:30] <phix> RiXtEr: <3
[09:30] <RiXtEr> ExUnixGuru, hardware or software raid?
[09:31] <taylor_> facebook
[09:31] <pupil> !raid
[09:31] <ExUnixGuru> I am starting to play with .. was a Unix Furu 20+ years ago.  Plan to set up a server eventually for a friends business
[09:31] <pupil> !raid | exunixguru
[09:31] <ExUnixGuru> oops Guru
[09:31] <ExUnixGuru> excuse typos am a one  h anded  touch typer
[09:31] <phix> ExUnixGuru: ah ok
[09:32] <phix> ExUnixGuru: hey, so you using hardware or software raid?
[09:32] <foo357> Hello, I need a newer version of a certain software than the version in the repositories
[09:32] <ExUnixGuru> Have been doing lotds of reading but ran into the problem of trying to install plain Ubuntu release alongside windows on RAID SSD'
[09:33] <killer1> how i can get source code as i wanna compile  ubuntu from source
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> killer1: sudo apt-get source packagename
[09:33] <pupil> killer1, you can download it from upstream
[09:33] <ExUnixGuru> IS MB RAID
[09:33] <ExUnixGuru> sorry
[09:34] <ExUnixGuru> bumped cap lock
[09:34] <phix> ExUnixGuru: MB RAID, so it is software raid
[09:34] <RiXtEr> ExUnixGuru, so your using a hardware raid (configured by the motherboard?)
[09:34] <phix> ExUnixGuru: is it a server motherboard or a desktop motherboard?
[09:34] <killer1> ActionParsnip : i know that this way i will get source but how do i know how many packages or what packages i need to compile as a standard ubuntu distro
[09:34] <ExUnixGuru> likelely is firmware raid from  biios. has several RAiIIDed sets
[09:35] <phix> RiXtEr: most likely it isnt a desktop mobo so chances are it is firmware + drivers that does the raid
[09:35] <ExUnixGuru> Windows uses a driver during install
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> killer1: there are loads. You don't just "compile a distro", it takes ages, compiling each package that makes up the OS.
[09:35] <phix> firmware for the config and drivers / modules to do the actual raiding
[09:35] <ExUnixGuru> correct
[09:35] <RiXtEr> phix, agreed.
[09:35] <phix> RiXtEr: msot liekly it is a desktop mobo even
[09:35] <phix> typo
[09:35] <RiXtEr> ExUnixGuru, so google search for the module that needs loaded on boot.
[09:36] <phix> hey should I get peperoni or lamb shank meat pizza?
[09:36] <ExUnixGuru> but how do I  get that into the  Ubuntu installer
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> !ot | phix
[09:36] <RiXtEr> ExUnixGuru, you can load it when the cd is booting.
[09:36] <ExUnixGuru> II believe the MFG has the drivers
[09:36] <ExUnixGuru> for linux
[09:36] <killer1> ActionParsnip: u compiled a distro ever?(by compiling packages needed)
[09:37] <ExUnixGuru> what it does is - hang with an error
[09:37] <ExUnixGuru> refuses tpo  install
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> killer1: I've used gentoo, so technically yes
[09:37] <RiXtEr> ExUnixGuru, a google search for loading (your firmwaretype here) driver on linux livecd might help
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> !google
[09:37] <ExUnixGuru> ok.. will try attacking with that direction
[09:37] <ExUnixGuru> thank you  very much
[09:38] <RiXtEr> MonkeyDust, he hasn't given me info on the card yet, google seemed logical
[09:38] <phix> ActionParsnip: It was ubuntu related, I am using firefox under ubuntu to do the ordering
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> phix: is the browser working ok?
[09:40] <phix> ActionParsnip: I do get flash issues with this particular pizza website
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> phix: then state that rather than some offtopic thing
[09:40] <phix> ActionParsnip: It does matter though
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> phix: no worries
[09:43]  * RiXtEr laughs @ phix and ActionParsnip 
[09:52] <joobie> hey guys.. im running a windows OS virtualized on linux, which uses an iscsi block device for the windows box's disk. Under average load i see slower performance of the windows box - i'm guessing this is because the iscsi is slowing or hitting threashold issues
[09:53] <joobie> any tips?  ive setup 2 x gigabit in a bonded mode 0 to the iscsi san
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> joobie  vbox?
[09:54] <foo357> Hello, I need a newer version of a certain software than the version available in the repositories. However a lot of software depends on this package that's already installed, how should I install from source and not mess everything up?
[09:54] <joobie> ya
[09:54] <joobie> but just not sure if mode 0 could be causing this
[09:55] <joobie> or where to start to try optimize
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> joobie  in a terminal, try rdesktop -u [user] [windows IP] <-- see if that is slow too
[09:56] <joobie> oh sorry MonkeyDust
[09:56] <joobie> i thought you meant is it a virtual box
[09:56] <joobie> but it's kvm
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> ah, i'm not too familiar with kvm
[09:57] <joobie> ahh k
[09:57] <joobie> doh :)
[09:58] <joobie> thanks neway hey
[09:58] <dr_willis> foo357:  useing a ppa is the prefered way. what  program  are you needing?
[09:58] <Andy80> hi guys...
[09:58] <foo357> dr_willis: Imagemagick
[09:59] <Andy80> who had the "fantastic" idea to upgrade the Ubuntu kernel from 3.5 to 3.7, screweing up the whole desktop? Resolution with my Nvidia is broken and neither Unity can start.
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> Andy80  the current keren is 3.5.0-18-generic
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> kernel*
[10:00] <dr_willis> isent 3.5 going end of life. ;-)
[10:01] <Andy80> MonkeyDust, I got 3.7 yesterday from an upgrade... maybe it was a PPA? How can I detect it?
[10:01] <dr_willis> 3.7 is in the next release? ive not tried it
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> yeah, guess 3.7 is for raring
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> Andy80  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[10:02] <auronandace> MonkeyDust: 3.5.0-19 recently came out, i just upgrades (just so you know)
[10:03] <Andy80> MonkeyDust, andrea@andrea-Inspiron-660:~$ lsb_release -sd
[10:03] <Andy80> Ubuntu 12.10
[10:04] <media-centre> good morning peeps
[10:04] <Andy80> is it possible that this package comes from a PPA?
[10:04] <media-centre> got a new problem for you
[10:04] <dr_willis> Andy80:  possuble
[10:04] <Andy80> and how can I detect which "deb" line caused this? There must be a way to know it
[10:05] <dr_willis> see what synaptic shows
[10:06] <dr_willis> it can show packages based on what repo
[10:06] <media-centre> logictech webcam wont show on ubuntu
[10:06] <Andy80> dr_willis, it says "(quantal)"
[10:07] <Andy80> uhm... no wait wait...
[10:07] <dr_willis> bottom left in synapitic has a show by source button
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: if you run: cheese    does it show?
[10:08] <media-centre> no
[10:08] <Andy80> damn it... it was the  "xorg-edgers" -.-'
[10:08] <media-centre> not even on benchmark
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsusb
[10:09] <thesadmafioso> Will linux-image-3.0.0-27-generic work for 10.04 LTS?
[10:09] <media-centre> i did go on some of the forums some of them did give me drivers but they for older kernels
[10:09] <Andy80> ok, I will "force version"
[10:09] <thesadmafioso> I know it's not the most current and I know I need to get a newer distro SOON.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> thesadmafioso: it may, but the kernel will not be supported heer
[10:10] <thesadmafioso> ActionParsnip: Why is that? Just curious.
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> thesadmafioso: only the packages from the official repos for your release can be supoprted here
[10:11] <thesadmafioso> ActionParsnip: Is there a kernel version 3.0 or greater available in the repos for 10.04? How could I check that with apt-get or apt-cache?
[10:11] <media-centre> heres the output
[10:11] <media-centre> http://pastebin.com/wvkm4tH7
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: is it a touchscreen PC?
[10:12] <media-centre> no
[10:12] <almoxarife> sooner or later the question will come up, what can i do on linux-lxde(buntu) that i wont ever be able to do on an android?
[10:13] <media-centre> just a pc with a tv for a monitor
[10:13] <llutz> almoxarife: "not much"
[10:13] <media-centre> brb
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: if you run:  lsmod | grep uvc   do you get an output?
[10:15] <dr_willis> android is more  "sandboxed"/locked down. i guess would be a major differance
[10:15] <media-centre> wait their
[10:15] <thesadmafioso> Ah, seems that at least kernel image 3.0.0-13 is supported with 10.04 LTS; do I need any backports? apt is suggesting that I get some sort of Oneiric backport sources?
[10:15] <media-centre> no none
[10:15] <dr_willis> !backports
[10:16] <almoxarife> dr_willis: i installed lxde on the android, i am stripping lxde of everything the android does already, and i wont have much of the lxde left to even make it worth having it
[10:17] <Walther> So, uh, any news on nvidia-experimental-310 repackaging so that it would provide nvidia-current?
[10:17] <Walther> because currently installing nvidia-experimental-310 uninstalls bumblebee
[10:18] <dr_willis> almoxarife:   depends on your needs i guess.
[10:18] <dr_willis> not all linux apps are ported to android. ;-)
[10:19] <thesadmafioso> dr_willis: I see a kernel version for 10.04 in the repos, and the backports pertaining to Oneiric are only "suggested" ; I may be fine without getting them, and if they were truly necessary they would be dependencies, yes?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: try:  sudo modprobe uvcvideo
[10:21] <dr_willis> backpprts are a special case  i gurss you can say
[10:21] <almoxarife> why are so many people fixating on keeping 10.04 alive?, is that the magic distro for something i dont know about?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: could just run openbox on it's own (no DE), should be lighter
[10:22] <dr_willis> they cling to the gnome....
[10:22] <thesadmafioso> I am actually just in a position where it's better for me not to go trying a new distro; I'm limited in what I can do if things go wrong because of where I am/what I have at my disposal.
[10:22] <almoxarife> dr_willis: gnome2? that it?
[10:22] <thesadmafioso> I like the gnome2!
[10:23] <thesadmafioso> Isn't there some point during the boot process where you can press SHIFT and manually select your kernel version?
[10:24] <dr_willis> gnome2 had a lot of issues people like to overlook. ;-)  but its dead now..
[10:24] <MonkeyDust>  <C +m
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> [3;2~
[10:24] <dr_willis> thesadmafioso:  at the start. or set the grub menu to not hide.
[10:24] <almoxarife> i went from gnome2 to kde, have not looked back
[10:25] <thesadmafioso> All right, well as long as I can do that I should be fine. Off to try this thing out.
[10:25] <thesadmafioso> Thank you all for your help/insight. :)
[10:26] <A_I_> hi
[10:26] <A_I_> what means this regexp ?  : [-/%.0-9a-z]
[10:27] <Andy80> uff... I've disable the xorg-edgers PPA. Now if I want to remove the linux*3.7 packages, it also asks me to remove the metapackages like: linux-generic* and linux-headers, how can I avoid it?
[10:27] <dzhus> good day, can I run an upstart init script if it's symlinked to another location?
[10:27] <Andy80> I just want to remove linux 3.7 packages
[10:27] <dzhus> like ~/.init/foo.conf -> ~/system-scripts/foo.conf
[10:27] <Walther> So, uh, any news on nvidia-experimental-310 repackaging so that it would provide nvidia-current? At the moment installing the 310 drivers uninstalls bumblebee
[10:27] <dr_willis> theres a ppa-purge tool i belive
[10:28] <dzhus> upstart seems to not see the script at alll
[10:28] <media-centre> ActionParsnip: ive done sudo modprobe uvcvideo
[10:28] <media-centre> and it hasnt shown anything
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: you may need a udev rule to tell it that the sunplus ID is a webcam
[10:29] <media-centre> ok so im editing a file for astartters i guess
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: possibly
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> A_I_  it means 'all characters from 0-9 and from a-z plus the % sign'
[10:30] <media-centre> well im not exactly expert at all of this
[10:30] <media-centre> so
[10:30] <media-centre> youll have to take me through step by step
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: gksudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/jj-video.rules
[10:31] <A_I_> MonkeyDust and the slash "/" sign too noo ?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: add:      SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="045e", ATTR{idProduct}=="072d", ACTION=="add", GROUP="audio", RUN+="/usr/local/bin/webcam-mic"
[10:31] <A_I_> what means the minus sign "-" ?
[10:31] <media-centre> ok the file is blank
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> but change the idProduct to 05ca and the idVendor to: 1bcf
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: wait a sec, i'll neaten this up
[10:32] <media-centre> ok
[10:33] <media-centre> thank you for this
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> A_I_  the / is used to indicate 'as is', so not as a symbol
[10:34] <A_I_> thanks MonkeyDust !
[10:36] <media-centre> you still their andy
[10:37] <weox> hello , i am newbie in ubuntu , is there any official plan for releasing unity 6.12 for ubuntu 12.10 ? or should i wait for ubuntu next major release ??
[10:37] <sevoxx> No.
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: add this line: http://pastebin.com/u3yDNFMr
[10:39] <media-centre> ok ive added and saved the document
[10:39] <llutz> A_I_: the regex matches all chars inside the brackets
[10:39] <Walther> So, uh, any news on nvidia-experimental-310 repackaging so that it would provide nvidia-current? At the moment installing the 310 drivers uninstalls bumblebee
[10:39] <sab> Hi
[10:39] <media-centre> should i restart and see if it works
[10:39] <BlackWeb> Is it Possible to start a stream with VLC through the Webgui, or SSH Command Prompt?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: sure
[10:39] <media-centre> ok see you in a minuit
[10:39] <sab> Could someone tell me if it is possible to have 2 GPU's working
[10:39] <Guest73351> pleas like http://my-video-xxx.notlong.com
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> BlackWeb: sure, you can run vlc in cli to setup a stream
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> sab: sure
[10:41] <BlackWeb> I have VLC installed on a Server which I'm trying to get to work and spent the last 5hrs Playing with it, Can only get it to work if I do it through My local system Gui not server
[10:41] <Guest73351> pleas like me      http://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> BlackWeb: you can use vlc-nox
[10:41] <Guest73351> on my ip page face and palpok
[10:41] <Guest73351> http://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp
[10:41] <DJones> Guest73351: Please don't spam, do you have an ubuntu support question
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest73351: please stop spamming
[10:42] <Guest73351> ok
[10:42] <sab> ActionParsnip: thanks for answering - my second monitor is plugged into my second GPU - how do I check if it can work.
[10:42] <BlackWeb> How do you use vlc-nox, no manual
[10:42] <weox> cant anyone answer my  question ? is that silly  question ?? hello , i am newbie in ubuntu , is there any official plan for releasing unity 6.12 for ubuntu 12.10 ? or should i wait for ubuntu next major release ??
[10:42] <Guest73351> a
[10:42] <Guest73351> http://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp
[10:42] <Guest73351> ssssssssssss
[10:42] <Guest73351> http://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp
[10:42] <Guest73351> http://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp
[10:42] <FloodBot1> Guest73351: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:43] <Virunga> Hi! I don't have unzip installed on my machine, must i have it installed for unzip files or there's another solution?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> sab: you'll probably need an xorg.conf if the GPUs are different?
[10:44] <media-centre> nope didnt work
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Virunga: install unp
[10:45] <media-centre> ok
[10:45] <media-centre> oh wait that aint me
[10:45] <sab> ActionParsnip: they are both the same and so are my monitors
[10:45] <Virunga> ActionParsnip: isn't there any sys call/command i can use?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Virunga: could maybe use teh vlc web ui
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> sab: are they nvidia based?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: you'll need to play with that til it flies, that ID will help you find guides
[10:46] <sab> ActionParsnip: unfortunately no they are ATI's
[10:47] <Virunga> ActionParsnip: well, then i'll surrender and install something. Thanks :)
[10:47] <media-centre> ok
[10:48]  * regf watches the chat while waiting for his desktop to resume from hibernation... 2 hours of heavy disk activity, and it still haven't resumed yet
[10:48]  * regf wonders wtf is it doing
[10:49] <media-centre> is it any particular digits
[10:49] <media-centre> 4 or 10 or 7
[10:50] <mgedmin> whoa, two hours?  ouch
[10:50] <mgedmin> hibernation sucks, but two hours sounds excessive
[10:50] <regf> yeah, usually it resumes fine
[10:50] <regf> last time it happened, it resumed successfully after ~1 hour
[10:51] <phix> Virunga: sudo apt-get install zip unzip
[10:51] <llutz> regf: you seem to be a very patient person...
[10:51] <phix> Virunga: Nautalus by default can uncompress files
[10:51] <greenwolf> im patient :)
[10:51] <greenwolf> sup evefryone
[10:51] <greenwolf> everyone*
[10:51] <phix> greenwolf: werd up
[10:52] <Virunga> phix: i don't have the gui. I just installed ;)
[10:52] <greenwolf> phix: back at ya
[10:52] <Virunga> unzip
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: use the 8 character hex id in your lsusb output
[10:52] <greenwolf> ha updates...updates...updates..fun..fun.fun
[10:52] <phix> greenwolf: <3
[10:52] <phix> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:53] <media-centre> ok thanx
[10:53] <Stalebread> When using 'apt-get autoremove', is there any way to specify certain packages to ignore? There's one package I don't want to delete, but the rest can go.
[10:53] <llutz> Stalebread: set in on hold
[10:53] <regf> it'd rather not turn it off while it's doing some heavy disk io, don't want to risk getting a bad sector or smthg
[10:54] <ee12015> que pasa
[10:54] <ee12155> #prog1
[10:55] <regf> and it's not reacting to sysrq combinations
[10:55] <media-centre> is it after id vendor or id product
[10:56] <media-centre> it would be the product wouldnt it
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> Stalebread  scroll down to 'holding packages' https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[10:58] <phix> ee12155: no
[10:58] <phix> no spanlish
[10:58] <phix> spanglish*
[10:59] <Stalebread> Ah thanks a lot. Just what I needed.
[10:59] <ee12155> #prog1
[10:59] <ee12155> #prog1
[10:59] <llutz> ee* spam starts again, weekend's coming
[10:59] <ee12026> mete
[10:59] <ee12155> else
[10:59] <ee12155> #prog1
[11:00] <ee12026> ola
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> ee12026  it works, you're in
[11:00] <Guest12109> http://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp
[11:00] <Guest12109> hello
[11:00] <Guest12109> welcom
[11:00] <DJones> ee12155: /csrb Guest12109
[11:00] <Guest12109> i am
[11:00] <Guest12109> in iraq
[11:01] <trackerproblem> Hi, I have a weird problem with Quantal and my bittorrent client. It does not connect to trackers and ping and mtr show that anytime I try to connect to one it connects with local loop (127.0.0.1) instead of the gateway, while it works fine for the rest.
[11:01] <phix> Guest76940: nice, say hai to alla for me
[11:02] <pecc> hello all, have problem with sound card... tried to figure out which model I have but the default commands fail me
[11:02] <pecc> cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec
[11:02] <pecc> cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec*: No such file or directory
[11:03] <phix> pecc: lspci
[11:03] <mario_> buongiorno
[11:03] <llutz> pecc: cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:03] <phix> It's a you! mario_!
[11:04] <pecc> phix, llutz, thank you
[11:05] <pecc> dear me do I even HAVE a card? those results don't show anything resembling one
[11:05] <phix> pecc: any time mate, let me know if there is anything else I can help you with
[11:05] <pecc> phix, incidentally 13:05
[11:05] <phix> ActionParsnip: I decided peperoni btw
[11:06] <phix> ok, it is 22:06 here
[11:07] <pecc> I did what you phix and llutz told me, cat /proc/ etc gave me only my stereo USB-Audio - C-Media USB Headphone Set
[11:07] <pecc> *stereo set
[11:07] <phix> pecc: oh it is USB?
[11:07] <phix> lsusb
[11:09] <media-centre> hallo again
[11:09] <pecc> phix, thanks, I found C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter... most of my hardware is connected via usb since my laptop is blown, I tend to forget this is exceptional
[11:10] <media-centre> i tried the id code from lsusb and it dosent seem tto work
[11:11] <media-centre> i think that id no. is the one for my wireless keyboard
[11:11] <atheer> http://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp
[11:11] <media-centre> so it reallydosent come up
[11:11] <atheer> my video
[11:11] <atheer> http://37.237.136.190:8080/klTeVYigqDmp
[11:11] <media-centre> not even a whisper
[11:13] <andis> have a textfile full of text but i want to only grab out all the urls, how to do that?
[11:14] <sab> how to register this nickname please?
[11:14] <DJones> !register | sab
[11:15] <cratok> /msg nickserv register
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> andis  with grep, like cat [text file] | grep [http] > some file
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> andis  with grep, like cat [text file] | grep [http] > [some file]
[11:16] <andis> MonkeyDust the urls are mixed with surrounded text, its rss i think
[11:16] <media-centre> hey are you still thi
[11:16] <media-centre> their*
[11:17] <media-centre> andy
[11:17] <Rains> grr
[11:18] <media-centre> guess not
[11:18] <media-centre> Action yoou their
[11:19] <media-centre> ok fine
[11:20] <media-centre> can anyone help me out im trying to find the 8 digit hex ID to my logictech webcam
[11:20] <phix>  ActionParsnip is not worth worrying about, if you need some help ask me media-centre
[11:21] <phix> media-centre: use lsusb
[11:21] <media-centre> didnt come up
[11:21] <media-centre> it came up with all my other usb devices
[11:21] <ivan_> hi
[11:21] <Guest27771> help me
[11:22] <ananymusss> has anyone been able to install 12.10 desktop 64-bit amd from a usb driv successfully?
[11:22] <phix> ananymusss: never tried
[11:23] <media-centre> so any chance of some help phix
[11:23] <phix> media-centre: you bet!
[11:23] <yblangkubu> hi
[11:23] <phix> media-centre: plug your camera and type in lsusb
[11:23] <ananymusss> i'd also like some help if possible...
[11:23] <phix> if it doesnt sho up then try sudo lsudb
[11:23] <media-centre> didnnt come up
[11:23] <phix> lsusb even
[11:23] <phix> if it still doesnt come up then plug in your USB device
[11:24] <yblangkubu> this is my  first time using weechat .. nice to meet you all guys..
[11:24] <phix> if it still doesn't then plug it in
[11:24] <media-centre> same thing
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: if the file is no good, delete it
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> ananymusss: many times
[11:24] <phix> you should plug it in
[11:24] <phix> trace the cable back
[11:24] <yblangkubu> phix: hi
[11:24] <shutpeas> hey, how do i remove all java installs without installing a load of alternatives?
[11:24] <phix> then plug it in
[11:24] <phix> yblangkubu: sup
[11:24] <regf> andis: if you know a bit of perl you can try Regexp::Common module to extract urls
[11:24] <media-centre> and how do i do that
[11:25] <phix> ananymusss: use python's re
[11:25] <media-centre> cal me thick in the head
[11:25] <media-centre> i need simple instructions
[11:25] <media-centre> even how
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: whom are yuo addressing?
[11:25] <media-centre> phix
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: see how my text highlights you, that's not an accident
[11:25] <ananymusss> ActionParsnip: i've been trying to install 12.10 64-bit amd ubuntu for the past 3 hours from a usb stick and it hasn't worked. the hash of the iso i downloaded matches with the expected has and i'm using the usb set-up .exe that is on the download page...
[11:25] <media-centre> yeaa the id hex is not coming up
[11:26] <andis> how do i get that regf
[11:26] <media-centre> i think its for my wireless keyboard
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: if you type a few letters of the nick and hit tab it will complete and you will highlight themm, just as I am highlighting you
[11:26] <phix> media-centre: look at the camera, then touch it, feel around the back, there you will notice a long cylinder that trails at the back of it, grab it and move your hands down it until you get to the end
[11:26] <phix> it should be attached to your computer
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> ananymusss:  do you get a black screen at boot?
[11:27] <media-centre> it is
[11:27] <ananymusss> right now i'm looking at a screen that says:
[11:27] <ananymusss> No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found!
[11:27] <ananymusss> boot : _
[11:27] <media-centre> still dosent come up
[11:27] <ananymusss> i can type things in....
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> ananymusss: how did you put the ISO on the USB?
[11:27] <_boot> ananymusss: excuse me?
[11:28] <media-centre> the only time i got it working was by a script for skype
[11:28] <media-centre> all it was was the same line twice
[11:28] <ananymusss> ActionParsnip: I used http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[11:28] <regf> andis: it's in libregexp-common-perl package if that's what you're asking about
[11:29] <ananymusss> i formatted a 2.0gb partition of my usb stick into FAT and then used that installer (without having the installer's format option selected)
[11:29] <media-centre> im gonna see what was in that script
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> ananymusss: have you tried a different USB stick?
[11:29] <ananymusss> no i haven't- i don't have one
[11:29] <niktto> hi all, how do you manage packaging for different architectures and versions of ubuntu? I'm looking for most optimal way to automate daily builds on only one machine
[11:29] <ananymusss> i used it just a few hours ago to install windows 7 64 bit and it went fine...
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> ananymusss: have you tried the device in a different PC?
[11:30] <ananymusss> yes, my laptop
[11:30] <ananymusss> should i try to use FAT32 instead of FAT?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> ananymusss: yes, use FAT32
[11:31] <Touhou11> ananymusss: Have you tried ReiserFS?
[11:32] <ananymusss> no sir
[11:32] <Touhou11> Wouldn't recommend it
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> Touhou11  FAT is readable by most systems, my manual here says reiserFS is not really fit for ubuntu
[11:32] <ee12026> manda o nome do chat
[11:32] <ee12026> manda o nome do chat
[11:32] <ee12026> manda o nome do chat
[11:32] <FloodBot1> ee12026: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:33] <loostro> hello, i need help with http://serverfault.com/questions/453811/how-to-configure-php-cli-on-linux-debian-to-run-as-www-data
[11:33] <ananymusss> anyone here have experience with Arch?
[11:33] <pecc> trouble with alsamixer... No command 'alsa-mixer' found, did you mean:
[11:33] <pecc>  Command 'alsamixer' from package 'alsa-utils' (main)
[11:33] <pecc> alsa-mixer: command not found
[11:33] <pecc> peccan@Theo:~$ alsamixer
[11:33] <pecc> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[11:33] <rymate1234> #archlinux
[11:33] <FloodBot1> pecc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> loostro  ubuntu is not the same as debian, better ask in #debian
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> ananymusss: ask in #arch
[11:33] <rymate1234> ActionParsnip, its #archlinux
[11:33] <rymate1234> unless he means the actual app arch
[11:34] <loostro> MonkeyDust: i actually use ubuntu
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> rymate1234: my bad, though it would be aliased.
[11:39] <shutpeas> hey, how do i remove all java installs without installing a load of alternatives?
[11:40] <phix> shutpeas: sudo apt-get --purge remove '*java*'
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> phix: dpkg -l | grep java     make a choice there
[11:41] <shutpeas> phix: done that, doesn't work
[11:41] <shutpeas> ActionParsnip, ill try that now
[11:42] <phix> shutpeas: ok
[11:48] <media-centre> ok im back
[11:48] <media-centre> heres the line that made it work
[11:48] <media-centre> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype
[11:48] <media-centre> ill see if this has got it
[11:51] <empty> #irc.cryto.net
[11:51] <media-centre> ok it has ot it
[11:52] <media-centre> so im guessing its just script files
[11:53] <media-centre> i just went on synaptic and instaled developement files for libv4l
[11:53] <media-centre> so maybe it will work now
[11:54] <fishcooker> im using desktop lucid
[11:54] <fishcooker> i wanna ask the built in chat messenger on right panel
[11:58] <media-centre> so phix any idea on how to fix this
[11:58] <media-centre> or Action how bout yoou
[12:01] <media-centre> ok theyve both bailed on me
[12:01] <media-centre> great
[12:01] <media-centre> ok
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: i have no idea
[12:05] <Bustacap> If I don't have a blank dvd, can I just extract the iso to a new partition, flag it as boot, and remove the boot flag from the current boot partition?
[12:05] <media-centre> cant think of anything
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: grub2 can boot ISO files
[12:07] <Bustacap> ActionParsnip: I love how you are always here and know everything.
[12:07] <Bustacap> Lol.
[12:07] <Bustacap> How do I go about doing that?
[12:07] <media-centre> not everything
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: I know some
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2009/05/25/boot-an-iso-via-grub2/
[12:08] <Bustacap> That looks confusing o.O
[12:10] <empty> how to change network?
[12:10] <trackerproblem> can please someone tell me the ip address of tracker.ccc.de? just tell me the ip addres you get when you do 'nslookup tracker.ccc.de'
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> empty: irc network you mean?
[12:10] <empty> yes
[12:10] <empty> i tries /server irc.cryto.net:6667
[12:11] <empty> but its not ocnnecting
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> trackerproblem: goes to 127.0.0.1
[12:12] <empty> i wanted to join the irc.cryto.net:6667 network
[12:15] <regf> Bustacap: even if it boots, it still may not work
[12:15] <trackerproblem> ActionParsnip I get the same problem, are dns servers blocking torrent trackers?
[12:15] <regf> Bustacap: it depends what are you trying to boot
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> trackerproblem: no idea, sorry
[12:15] <Bustacap> regf: Trying to boot windows 8.
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> trackerproblem: are you UK based?
[12:15] <Bustacap> Ran out of blank dvd's and don't feel like waiting until 10 for walmart to open :P
[12:16] <media-centre> hey how comes skype dont come up on ubuntu software or synaptic
[12:16] <trackerproblem> ActionParsnip nope
[12:16] <media-centre> have they cancelled it or somthing
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: you need to enable the partner repo
[12:16] <regf> Bustacap: probably won't work
[12:16] <media-centre> ok
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: not cancelled at all
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: or you can get it from the skype website
[12:17] <Bustacap> regf: Why not?
[12:17] <empty> need help!!! I wanted to join the irc.cryto.net:6667 network but is unable to connect .I tried to connect by "/server irc.cryto.net:6667" but i gave error "host name misspelled"!
[12:17] <bazhang> empty, ask in #freenode
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> empty: can you ping the server name?
[12:17] <empty> didn't try it
[12:17] <regf> Bustacap: because as soon as Windows kernel starts, it doesn't use BIOS and the CD emulation anymore
[12:18] <empty> *trying now *
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> empty: surely thats the first thing to try....?
[12:18] <regf> Bustacap: it will be looking for the real CD/DVD drive
[12:18] <Bustacap> regf: That's why I was thinking of just extracting the iso to the partition I plan on installing it on and marking it as the only thing with boot flags.
[12:19] <regf> Bustacap: marking it bootable is not enough
[12:20] <regf> Bustacap: you also need a partition bootloader and its configuration
[12:21] <empty> ActionParsnip i ping the server its responding.but still unable to connect to the network
[12:21] <Bustacap> regf: Doesn't the iso have a boot config?
[12:22] <regf> Bustacap: booting CD/DVD is a different process than booting a HD partition
[12:22] <Bustacap> True.
[12:23] <Bustacap> Brb. Gonna try something.
[12:23] <Kartagis> would using pvcreate on an already existing partition wreck it?
[12:24] <Ny0> hi everyone, you know if there is a way to backup windows partitions (with bootloader, ecc) on dvd using ubuntu live ?
[12:25] <ikonia> Ny0: look at clonezilla live cd
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Ny0: you can make an image of the MBR using dd, then backup the data
[12:27] <regf> Ny0: many ways - copying whole block device with dd-like tool, copying only used parts with ntfsclone, or even copying just files if you're careful about preserving all file attributes
[12:29] <regf> I don't think preserving MBR is important if it's a standard Windows MBR, it can easily be restored with testdisk for example
[12:30] <Ny0> regf: it's a damn win8 notebook without dvd restore -.-'
[12:30] <Ny0> i'm trying to avoid this problem by doing backup in other ways
[12:30] <Ny0> with xp i remember it was easy to restore mbr
[12:30] <pecc> my sound disappears randomly, disconnect/reconnect dock helps but only for some time
[12:31] <pecc> afaik i have upgraded drivers etc
[12:31] <Ny0> regf: but in this case is more complex because there is lenovo oneclick recovery
[12:31] <tizz> i'm having some trouble making a desktop file to run an sh, how do i run the desktopfile validatation tool
[12:32] <Bustacap> It worked hmmm
[12:32] <Bustacap> Installing as we speak
[12:32] <Ny0> regf: so is not a standard windows mbr -.-'
[12:33] <Bustacap> Just extracted and marked the partition as boot
[12:33] <Bustacap> Can't wait till its installed so I can get back to ubuntu lol
[12:33] <regf> Ny0: hmm, Win8 may be tricky due to secureboot, GUID partition table and all that stuff
[12:34] <regf> Bustacap: nice, good to know it's smart enough to work that way :)
[12:34] <Bustacap> So far lol
[12:35] <xyzone> secureboot machines are boned
[12:35] <psychopathic> i work over time at 1 unit.
[12:36] <Ny0> regf: its a big deal but i'd really like to modify part table preserving the possibility to restore the notebook one day
[12:36] <media-centre> does anyone know why i cant change the permissions on an a .sh file
[12:36] <media-centre> for some reason its not letting me
[12:36] <Ny0> regf: in this moment it is a useless pc
[12:36] <media-centre> i miss linux mint
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: how, its still actively developed.
[12:37] <regf> Ny0: I would probably image the whole disk just in case there are some important bits hidden somewhere
[12:37] <media-centre> but it wont load as a program
[12:37] <media-centre> brb
[12:39] <Ny0> regf: 500 gb O.o
[12:39] <regf> Ny0: compress it with gzip (or maybe lzop because it's faaaast)
[12:39] <regf> Ny0: most of it is probably filled with zeroes if it's new
[12:40] <regf> Ny0: or copy it to a sparse file
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: how do you mean 'as a program'?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: do you mean wubi?
[12:41] <Ny0> regf: i will try
[12:41] <media-centre> NO
[12:41] <Ny0> regf: tnx
[12:41] <regf> Ny0: or a compressed file if the file system supports it (btrfs, NTFS, ZFS)
[12:41] <media-centre> when you click properties
[12:41] <media-centre> and then permissions
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: on what?
[12:42] <media-centre> theirs a option to run it as a program
[12:42] <Bustacap> Installed successfully
[12:42] <Bustacap> Woot
[12:42] <media-centre> the file browser
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: then use:  chmod +x filename     works in any distro.
[12:42] <media-centre> huh my god and your in a help channel
[12:43] <media-centre> ok thanx
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> media-centre: then when you double click the file, it will run. Did you seriously switch disto for that...
[12:43] <media-centre> no
[12:43] <Bustacap> Woah nirvana
[12:43] <Bustacap> I just started playing lithium on guitar
[12:43] <Bustacap> Lolol
[12:45] <Spiders>  /server irc.blackirc.org 6667
[12:46] <Ny0> regf what if i copy only win8 partition and i try to fix mbr with win8 cd
[12:46] <Ny0> ?
[12:48] <satya> hello we are running ubuntu 10.10 server .. we are facing issue related to connection getting reset when we access port 80 .. all other ports are accessed properly. we have disabled iptables and all other firewall ufw but still no luck
[12:48] <media-centre> no still aint woking
[12:49] <media-centre> ill create a duplicate and try it again
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> satya10.10 is no longer suppedort
[12:49] <fishcooker> why you disable all firewall satya
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> satya 10.10 is no longer supported*
[12:49] <satya> it is a local server for testing
[12:49] <satya> ok
[12:49] <fishcooker> you should take 10.04 for sure
[12:49] <fishcooker> LTS
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> or 12.04
[12:50] <fishcooker> thankyou MonkeyDust
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> satya there's also #ubuntu-server
[12:50] <fishcooker> are you on 12.04 or still on 10.04
[12:50] <regf> Ny0: I don't have any experience yet with Win8, that's why I would image the whole disk
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> Ny0 this is not the right place for win8 questions
[12:51] <Ny0> MonkeyDust: ^^ sorry.
[12:52] <regf> Ny0: "cp --copy-contents --sparse=always /dev/sdx sdx.img" will create a sparse image (skipping zeros), which shouldn't take much space
[12:53] <satya> sorry my mistake it is 10.04
[12:54] <Ny0> regf: thank you very much
[12:54] <satya> can anybody help
[12:54] <satya> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[12:54] <satya> DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.04
[12:54] <satya> DISTRIB_CODENAME=lucid
[12:54] <satya> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS"
[12:54] <FloodBot1> satya: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:55] <satya> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399023/
[12:59] <tizz> i cannot seem to get my desktop file to work
[12:59] <tizz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399032/
[12:59] <userzerox> I get this error when i compile Ansi C complaint programs. fatal error: conio.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. Please help me fix it!
[13:00] <tizz> i double click it, it looks like its trying to launch, but never does
[13:01] <tizz> can anyone see why that desktop file is not launching the script its pointing at
[13:03] <xyzone> tizz, try running the script in terminal
[13:03] <tizz> the script works by itself fine
[13:03] <tizz> but my desktop file cant seem to open it
[13:04] <tizz> could it be because the script itself is set to execute?
[13:04] <tizz> be executable
[13:04] <xyzone> should just place it in ~/bin and put it in your path
[13:05] <media-centre_> that chmod command didnt work
[13:05] <media-centre_> its not executing it
[13:06] <media-centre_> i miss linux mint
[13:06] <llutz_> tizz: does the script need a terminal to run in? then you'll have to open it inseide a terminal when calling from desktop-file
[13:06] <Bustacap> It's nice to be back in linux :)
[13:06] <media-centre_> all this root acess shit would of disapeared
[13:07] <tizz> it does not need the terminal to run in, i can just set the .sh as executable and run it and it opens the game
[13:07] <media-centre_> dont you think ive tried that already
[13:08] <tizz> but i'll try the terminal launch anyway
[13:08] <media-centre_> it wont let me
[13:08] <media-centre_> i tcikcthe box it dosent happen
[13:08] <media-centre_> tick the *
[13:08] <oddie> howdie all, is there a fix for the left menu bar to appear when in auto hide? I can press super and it appears, If I take off autohide it is fine?.. as soon as I click on hide through compiz-settings-manager it hides and mouse wont release it back. Any help?
[13:09] <media-centre_> i cant even run a dektop launcher without it saying root
[13:09] <media-centre_> its crap
[13:09] <media-centre_> absolute crap
[13:10] <Pici> media-centre_: drop the attitude please, people here are trying to help you.
[13:10] <media-centre_> yea and al their efferts seem to not work
[13:11] <danie44> Can anyone help me with something?
[13:11] <media-centre_> i bet if they suggested all of this on mint
[13:11] <media-centre_> it would of worked
[13:11] <danielbauwens> My brother made that when i go to this certain site, it goes to localhost
[13:12] <danielbauwens> I know i can use proxy, but i prefer just to "remove" whatever he did
[13:12] <Pici> media-centre_: How are you trying to execute the script?
[13:12] <media-centre_> terminal
[13:12] <media-centre_> double clicking it
[13:13] <media-centre_> trying to run it from a launcher
[13:13] <media-centre_> take your pick
[13:13] <media-centre_> theyve all screwed up
[13:13] <loin> what is the default gcc version in the latest ubuntu?
[13:13] <media-centre_> either cos of root
[13:13] <Pici> media-centre_: When you use the terminal to execute it, what error message are you getting?
[13:13] <phix> media-centre_: hai pal
[13:13] <Pici> !info gcc
[13:14] <danielbauwens> Can someone help me?
[13:14] <danielbauwens> It would be nice
[13:14] <phix> danielbauwens: ok what up?
[13:14] <media-centre_> heres the ine
[13:14] <Pici> danielbauwens: I'd start by taking a look at /etc/hosts
[13:14] <media-centre_> sudo: /home/media-centre/skype.sh: command not found
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> danielbauwens if we know what your brother did, we can try to undo it
[13:14] <danielbauwens> My brother made the url of a website redirect to localhost
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> danielbauwens any reasons why he did it? maybe he doesnt want you to visit it
[13:15] <Pici> media-centre_: Do you need to access it with sudo privleges?
[13:15] <danielbauwens> It's a pony forum lol :D
[13:15] <danielbauwens> Bronies
[13:15] <media-centre_> yea
[13:16] <phix> danielbauwens: You like ponies?
[13:16] <danielbauwens> He thinks i'm spying on him
[13:16] <danielbauwens> I don't mind them, but he likes them
[13:16] <danielbauwens> I mean mylittlepony
[13:16] <media-centre_> otherwise its permission denied
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> media-centre then try chown [your user] [your user]
[13:16] <phix> danielbauwens: cool
[13:16] <phix> danielbauwens: those guys rock
[13:16] <danielbauwens> :D
[13:16] <danielbauwens> brohoof
[13:16] <phix> <3
[13:17] <media-centre_> why twice
[13:18] <oddie> is there a fix for the left menu bar to appear when in auto hide? I can press super and it appears, If I take off autohide it is fine?.. as soon as I click on hide through compiz-settings-manager it hides and mouse wont release it back. Any help?
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> media-centre what's the output of ls -l [your file]  ?
[13:20] <hello_world_> hello
[13:20] <media-centre_> heres the output
[13:20] <media-centre_> -rw------- 1 media-centre media-centre 152 Nov 30 13:02 /home/media-centre/skype.sh
[13:21] <media-centre_> ok thats done the trick
[13:21] <llutz_> media-centre_: chmod 755  /home/media-centre/skype.sh
[13:21] <media-centre_> thanx
[13:22] <llutz_> media-centre_: why do you need a script to run skype and why do you need to use sudo for it?
[13:22] <phix> llutz_: why not
[13:22] <phix> sudo is great
[13:22] <danielbauwens> Okay thanks guys
[13:22] <media-centre_> dosent matter now
[13:22] <danielbauwens> It was indeed in /hosts
[13:22] <llutz_> phix: stop your random nonsense please
[13:22] <phix> llutz_: ?
[13:22] <phix> It wasnt random
[13:22] <phix> it was very specific
[13:23] <psychopathic> they smoke weed on velocity radian.
[13:23] <phix> nothing wrong with sudo, that is a true, if skype is lously programmed that it requires root access to run then why not run it via sudo
[13:23] <llutz_> phix: still nonsense
[13:23] <phix> llutz_: no sense
[13:23] <xyzone> don't use skype
[13:24] <phix> you get that, software providers being used to writting windows apps being lazy and not implementing usermode correctly
[13:24] <phix> so it requires root / admin access to run
[13:24] <phix> fair enough
[13:24] <llutz_> skype mightto be avoided but it neither needs root-right nor should it be run as root
[13:24] <phix> llutz_: it does if it was programmed so
[13:25] <Slart> skype doesn't require root for me.. runs just fine here as a regular user
[13:25] <llutz_> phix: it wasn't
[13:25] <sidd_mak> plz suggest some package which can recover deleted files from FAT file system.
[13:25] <phix> I dont know, I dont use it, but I wouldnt be suprised if it does
[13:25] <Myrtti> phix Ive never needed sudo to run skype nor have I heard anyone else needing it
[13:25] <phix> Myrtti: great
[13:25] <llutz_> phix: so whats the point of all your comments then? just blahhblah
[13:26] <Myrtti> sidd_mak: photorec might help
[13:26] <phix> llutz_: being helpful
[13:26] <llutz_> you aren't phix
[13:26] <phix> llutz_: you arnt helpful either, shut up
[13:26] <xyzone> sidd_mak, testdisk
[13:26] <sidd_mak> Myrtti : no only image but all kind of files
[13:27] <llutz_> sidd_mak: photorec recovers more than photos, just a confusing name
[13:27] <fishcooker> fahim are you alrite
[13:27] <Myrtti> sidd_mak: yes, it might help. I cant remember if it can recover any files
[13:28] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:29] <fahim> fishcooker nice to meet you. I'm very new here.
[13:29] <sidd_mak> Myrtti xyzone llutz_ : thanks guys....
[13:29] <phix> who else lkes robert kirkman's work on ubuntu?
[13:29] <fahim> but not a very new ubuntu user.
[13:30] <fishcooker> i dont think so fahim
[13:31] <regf> sidd_mak: photorec is for recovering files from any filesystem, I don't know if it uses any FS information besides free space ; if you just want FAT undelete, testdisk may be a better option
[13:31] <fahim> what do you think? fishcooker
[13:31] <regf> sidd_mak: there is undelete option in advanced menu
[13:34] <fahim> fishcooker are you there?
[13:34] <fishcooker> yes
[13:35] <knoppix> i have 3g  usb modem,  how unmount 3g modem cd driver
[13:35] <deffrag> Hi! I'm using IDE/SATA to USB adapter which uses external power supply like - http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-TO-IDE-SATA-S-SATA-Converter-CABLE-Adaptor-w-POWER-/220764567409? - I've connected 750GB HDD to the adapter but I'm not able to get it working on Ubuntu 12.04. dmesg, lsusb, fdisk -l logs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399099/ . How can I fix it please?
[13:35] <Slart> knoppix: if it's a kernel driver you might be able to unload it using modprobe
[13:36] <media-centre_> well i got it to execute
[13:36] <media-centre_> but it still aint making the webcam load up
[13:36] <llutz_> deffrag: according to your logs, it is detected. sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[13:37] <knoppix> Slart, ok . thank you.
[13:37] <deffrag> llutz, Hi, I can see its detected and I tried that command but it asked for proper filesystem. I ran blkid and then gparted to get proper filesystem but it didn't help
[13:38] <llutz_> deffrag: sudo fsck /dev/sdb1
[13:38] <xyzone> deffrag, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=966321&page=2
[13:39] <regf> deffrag: don't do any fsck!
[13:39] <regf> deffrag: the disk isn't detected properly!
[13:39] <deffrag> llutz, Forgot to give blkid log - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399106/ . Why is there a need to check and repair fs using fsck?
[13:40] <deffrag> regf, I haven't yet
[13:40] <regf> deffrag: your USB interface is lying
[13:40] <regf> deffrag: it says the disk has 4K logical sector size, while it should be 512 bytes
[13:41] <deffrag> xyzone, Thanks, I'll go through that. regf : How so?
[13:41] <fishcooker> i wanto mounting spesific partition
[13:41] <fishcooker> as home
[13:41] <fishcooker> rather than using single partition
[13:41] <regf> deffrag: I don't know if there is any way to override it
[13:41] <fishcooker> should i rsync /home folder manually to the new partition
[13:44] <regf> deffrag: I guess you could modify partition table to fit if your partitions were 4k aligned, but they are not
[13:44] <deffrag> regf, Possible. I tried another 2.5" HDD and it worked easily opening the file manager
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> media-centre_ did the chmod trick help?
[13:45] <deffrag> regf, I'm not sure what could have caused that issue to 750GB drive
[13:45] <deffrag> It was working fine and is used as booting device on the desktop machine
[13:46] <deffrag> booted fine on desktop in past, I mean
[13:46] <oddie> is there a fix for the left menu bar to appear when in auto hide? I can press super and it appears, If I take off autohide it is fine?.. as soon as I click on hide through compiz-settings-manager it hides and mouse wont release it back. Any help?
[13:47] <regf> deffrag: older hard drives may be detected properly by your USB adapter, never drives - 512k logical / 4k physical may be mangled to 4k logical / 4k phys.
[13:47] <deffrag> llutz, regf : Sorry I forgot to mention that the /home on it is encrypted... is that causing the issue/
[13:48] <regf> deffrag: your USB adapter is probably lying intentionally, they do it to make bigger drives than 2TB work on Windows
[13:48] <deffrag> regf, Both the drive 2.5" are newer
[13:48] <regf> deffrag: it's a trick to make 2TB+ drives accessible with msdos partition table
[13:48] <deffrag> And the adapter is working fine for another new 2.5" drive
[13:48] <deffrag> well
[13:49] <Walther> Is the nvidia-experimental-310 going to be repackaged any time soon? It does not provide nvidia-current, causing bumblebee to uninstall
[13:49] <regf> deffrag: it's probably working fine for drives with 512k log. / 512 k phys. sector size
[13:49] <regf> deffrag: and it's probably lying for 512k log / 4 k phys
[13:50] <regf> deffrag: either connect the drive directly without the USB adapter, or buy an adapter which doesn't mangle sector sizes
[13:50] <deffrag> regf, sector size detected for first is 4096bytes and second working one is 512bytes
[13:51] <Walther> !package nvidia-experimental-310
[13:51] <deffrag> Okay
[13:51] <phix> The plot thickens
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-experimental-310 | Walther
[13:51] <regf> deffrag: yep, that's what I thought
[13:51] <deffrag> regf, I'll try connecting it directly to laptop
[13:51] <Walther> Ehh?
[13:51] <subdesign> hey, can i combine Krusader splitted large file with windows Total Commander ?
[13:51] <Walther> Anyway, who is maintaining that package?
[13:51] <reels> Hi, sscanf() seems buggy in ubuntu LTS (10.04, 12.04). Test program works well on other systems apparently : http://ideone.com/bKiiwY  . Any idea why ? Thanks.
[13:52] <Walther> It needs a rebuild; it doesn't provide 'nvidia-current', causing a big issue with bumblebee
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Walther: try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[13:52] <deffrag> regf, Can encryption report wrong sector size to protect or something?
[13:53] <llutz_> Walther: apt-cache show nvidia-current|grep -i maint
[13:53] <media-centre_> what i cant understand is why of all the webcams does that one decide to not work
[13:53] <media-centre_> i mean is it loyal to microshit
[13:54] <xyzone> media-centre, because no drivers
[13:54] <media-centre_> oh their are drivers
[13:54] <ikonia> media-centre_: drop the language/attitude
[13:54] <media-centre_> their just just for older kernals
[13:54] <media-centre_> mind you thats an idea
[13:55] <regf> deffrag: don't confuse encryption block with hard drive sector size
[13:55] <media-centre_> cos im sure their are .so files in the drivers that ican just pick one of them to get it working
[13:55] <phix> ikonia: drop the authoriterianess
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[13:55] <regf> deffrag: two independent things
[13:55] <FloodBot1> Ho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:55] <phix> ho no
[13:56] <deffrag> regf, do you mind if I pm you on the same?
[13:57] <deffrag> Thanks
[13:57] <ikonia> phix: the language is unacceptable,
[13:58] <phix> ikonia: If you get offended by language you may as well not speak to anyone
[13:58] <ikonia> phix: the channel has rules on offensive language, then include no cursing, that's why he was pulled up on it
[13:59] <phix> ikonia: I wasn't offended
[13:59] <ikonia> phix: it's not "my" rules, it's the channels, you're welcome to request discussion on it through the operators team
[13:59] <phix> ok, lets discuss
[13:59] <ikonia> phix: it doesn't matter if you are offended or not in that respect, the channels rules are no cursing, if you are not happy with those rules a.) raise it as a concern to the operators team b.) don't use the channel
[13:59] <phix> ikonia: I prefer a over b
[13:59] <phix> I like using this channel
[13:59] <ikonia> phix: I'll pm you the email address of the ubuntu IRC council and you can send you concerns to them
[13:59] <ikonia> phix: great, b is a bad option
[14:00] <OerHeks> phix, stop it please.
[14:00] <ikonia> phix: I'll pm you the email address to send your complaint
[14:00] <phix> I Just dont like the idiotic rules that people apply to this channel
[14:00] <phix> ikonia: thank you
[14:00] <phix> OerHeks: ikonia and I are just discussing that
[14:00] <phix> Quix0te: your input isnt required
[14:00] <ikonia> and now it's done
[14:01] <phix> OerHeks: even, sorry Quix0te, tab complete fail
[14:01] <phix> awesome, much appreciated
[14:01] <phix> in the mean time, any one need some ubuntu help?  I have 10 yrs of IT experience up my belt
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> phix: 10 years of Ubuntu as well?
[14:02]  * BluesKaj can't wait to see this :)
[14:02] <phix> ActionParsnip: nope, 10 years of linux, redhat, mandrake, slackware, debian then ubuntu about 5 years ago
[14:02] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:03] <rymate1234> lol
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> phix: hehe mandrake, I started on mandrake :)
[14:03] <worm> Does anyone know how to install skype on my x86_64 12.10 Ubuntu? apt-get shows that skype is not available.
[14:03] <phix> ActionParsnip: I Only liked enlightenment in Mandrake
[14:03] <OerHeks> worm, enable partner repo
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> worm: grab the 64bit deb from skype's website
[14:03] <ikonia> !skype | worm
[14:04] <xyzone> I started on ubuntu 5.10
[14:04] <worm> Thanks a lot.
[14:04] <phix> I started with a woody
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> worm: wget -O skype_Ubuntu-current_amd64.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-64
[14:04] <phix> debian that is
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> worm: sudo dpkg -i ./skype_Ubuntu-current_amd64.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[14:05] <phix> why use skype for?
[14:05] <worm> ActionParsnip: I see. I'll try that.
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> phix: chat to other skype users
[14:05] <phix> skype is a service, asterisk is a full package
[14:05] <phix> use asteriak
[14:05] <phix> it is ubuntu too
[14:05] <phix> skype is out of topic
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> phix: to chat to skype users using voice?
[14:06] <xyzone> I wonder why the 32-bit is still recommended
[14:06] <phix> ActionParsnip: out of topic
[14:06] <Pici> phix: stop it
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> phix: its in the official ubuntu partner repo, so is supported
[14:06] <phix> Pici: ? who are you?
[14:06] <phix> ActionParsnip: nah asterisk is supported more though
[14:06] <phix> by ubuntu and debian
[14:06] <ikonia> phix: drop it please.
[14:06] <ikonia> you're causing a problem
[14:07] <Pici> phix: You're misleading users, and annoying the helpers.
[14:07] <phix> ikonia: I am not causing a problem
[14:07] <phix> I am a helper
[14:07] <phix> Pici: I am helping
[14:07] <ikonia> you're not helping, please slow down and think about what you are saying
[14:07] <phix> ikonia: I am, asterisk is the full package, skype is just a service
[14:07] <xDesu> I just hope whoever doesn't get the multiarch issue with x64 I experienced on 12.10.
[14:07] <phix> you have no source control with skype
[14:07] <ikonia> phix: yes, he ants to use skype
[14:07] <phix> you do with asterisk
[14:07] <ikonia> it's supported
[14:08] <ikonia> you can offer suggestions for other packages, but please, don't make things up
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> xDesu: in what package?
[14:08] <phix> ikonia: hmmmm
[14:08] <phix> ikonia: I am making things up?
[14:08] <xDesu> ActionParsnip, it was an issue with multiarch not being enabled on my system by default so I couldn't install skype.
[14:08] <phix> ikonia: it is true though
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> phix: this channel supports packages from teh official ubuntu repos. The partner repor IS an official repo, its just disabled by default
[14:08] <ikonia> phix: when you said skype is "off topic"
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> phix: as skype is in that repo, it is supported here. Clear enough?
[14:09] <Guest17861> Hello
[14:09] <xDesu> Guest17861, hi there.
[14:09] <phix> ActionParsnip: ok it is supported, I am not arguing that, I am arguing that asterisk is the better choice, it is also supported and in the repo
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> xDesu: if use 64bit in newer releases, it is enabled by default, your OS should puul in 32bit deps to satisfy thet deps
[14:10] <Guest17861> how are you xdesu
[14:10] <xDesu> Guest17861, you may want to change your name(if you don't know how "/nick <name>
[14:10] <phix> ikonia: ah ok
[14:10] <phix> ikonia: well ActionParsnip argued / debated another point
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> phix: that's fine, but saying 'skype is out of topic' is incorrect, isn't it?
[14:10] <Guest17861> Ace
[14:10] <phix> ikonia: I agree now it is supported, I just looked it up :)
[14:10] <xDesu> ActionParsnip, it wasn't enabled on my copy of 12.10, but don't worry I have long since resolved the issue.
[14:10] <phix> ActionParsnip: yes, but it isn't the best choice
[14:11] <ikonia> that's debatable
[14:11] <ikonia> it's personal opnion
[14:11] <ikonia> opinion
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> xDesu: if you use apt-get it should work ok. aptitude doesn't play taht way
[14:11] <phix> asterisk is far superior
[14:11] <xDesu> ActionParsnip, I had to run
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> phix: that's not the issue at hand. You said it's "out of topic", which is wrong. Isn't it
[14:11] <phix> ikonia: really? is it a personal opionion that you can use asterisk as a full blown PBX? and have access to the source?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> phix: if it's ontopic, why say it's not?
[14:12] <ikonia> phix: please stop now, I'm getting board
[14:12] <Guest17861> can you speak german xdesu
[14:12] <phix> ActionParsnip: I thought it wasnt as skype is very commerial
[14:12] <ikonia> phix: the user wanted to connect to skype - he wanted the skype clients
[14:12] <xDesu> ActionParsnip, I had to run "dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get install ia32-libs" the issue has already been resolved though so don't worry about it.
[14:12] <Pici> phix: asterisk is not a replacement for skype for someone who wants to chat to skype users.
[14:12] <phix> ActionParsnip: I forget that ubuntu doesnt have the same values as debian
[14:13] <Guest17861> Bye bye
[14:13] <xDesu> Guest17861 #ubuntu-de
[14:13] <Walther> ActionParsnip: created a bug about it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-experimental-310/+bug/1085044
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Walther: good start :)
[14:15] <xDesu> ActionParsnip, you seem to be in here quite a lot.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> xDesu: kinda :)
[14:16] <xDesu> I hope to learn much from you master.
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> xDesu: as you use the OS, you'll learn :)
[14:17] <Tex_Nick>  
[14:17] <xDesu> I've already learned tons in my single year of actually using ubuntu(though I'm not on Debian for my laptop), but yea. Learn loads from other people's issues here.
[14:17] <xDesu> I meant to say I am on Debian...
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> xDesu: straight up
[14:18] <xDesu> Straight up?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> xDesu: yes / I agree
[14:18] <xDesu> Ahh, sorry the unexpected usage of "straight up" caught me a bit offguard.
[14:22] <MadEchidna> Hey any X11 wizards here? I was using Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit and then a friend of mine talked me in to install 64 bit instead and it's been nothing but headaches
[14:22] <MadEchidna> On a clean install, installing the AMD video driver from the software sources applet, without any special ppas or anything, didn't work
[14:23] <MadEchidna> I was able to get it working after fudging around with x11 edgers for a few days, but yesterday I got a kernel update and no matter what I try I can't get the damn thing to work
[14:23] <MadEchidna> I keep getting this error over and over
[14:23] <MadEchidna> ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.7.0-4-generic is not supported
[14:23] <MadEchidna> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.7.0-4-generic (x86_64)
[14:23] <khufu> are you sure it is a 64bit package?
[14:24] <MadEchidna> khufu, what do you mean?
[14:24] <khufu> well the linux-headers
[14:24] <MadEchidna> I'm just install it like normal with apt, I didn't download a deb somewhere
[14:24] <MadEchidna> how do I check?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> MadEchidna: ask in #ubuntu+1 for raring support
[14:24] <MadEchidna> ?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> MadEchidna: 3.7 is the raring kernel
[14:25] <Ace> guest17861
[14:27] <MadEchidna> I meant 12.10 ActionParsnip
[14:27] <MadEchidna> I don't know if that's the right channel
[14:27] <jrib> MadEchidna: you need to explain where that kernel is coming from then
[14:27] <Pici> MadEchidna: what does apt-cache policy linux-headers-3.7.0-4-generic say?
[14:27] <Siebjee> Hi guys, i am having some issues with changing the default ulimit settings. Normally you add * - nofile 65535 to /ect/security/limits.conf and when you ssh to the server your openfiles (ulimit -n) will be at 65535. But for some reason i have to manually change it with ulimit -n 65535 in order to get the limit settings i want on my server. Is there a other way to achive this ?
[14:28] <jrib> Siebjee: I think something needs to be added to pam, one sec
[14:28] <MadEchidna> Pici, http://pastebin.ca/2258650
[14:28] <MadEchidna> jrib, the default repos? I purged the PPAs I had
[14:29] <Siebjee> jrib, i already added 'session require pam_limits.so' to the /etc/pam.d/common-session
[14:30] <jrib> Siebjee: that should work afaik assuming you've defined the limits correctly
[14:30] <RickZilla> I'm using a persistent Live USB of ubuntu 12.10. If I go ahead and install it to my HD, will it keep those settings that I've already made, or will it just be a fresh install?
[14:30] <Pici> MadEchidna: That output says that you installed it from somewhere other than the default repos.  It looks like you disabled whatever source you installed it from.
[14:31] <MadEchidna> Pici, okay so how do I go back to the default kernel?
[14:31] <Siebjee> jrib, that didn't work for me. I used Ƽ* - nofile 65535' and '<username> - nofile 65535' both are not working
[14:31] <MadEchidna> when I look at the 3.7 package in synaptic it even says "Ubuntu Kernel Team", I don't get where this would have just "come from"
[14:31] <ikonia> MadEchidna: didn't you say you had the edgers repo
[14:32] <ikonia> xorg-edger ?
[14:32] <MadEchidna> I did, and then I ran a ppa-purge
[14:32] <ikonia> right, so that's why the kernel is still there
[14:32] <MadEchidna> I thought that ppa-purge took care of that
[14:32] <MadEchidna> so do I just uninstall the package?
[14:32] <jrib> Siebjee: let me try here
[14:32] <ikonia> how can it, the kernel is runing and inuse
[14:32] <Pici> MadEchidna: The safest way is to reboot to an older kernel and then remove that package.
[14:32] <MadEchidna> oh
[14:32] <MadEchidna> okay brb
[14:34] <Kartagis> what package does it take to install KDE? kdebase-bin?
[14:34] <jrib> Siebjee: actually my /etc/pam.d/sshd seems to already contain pam_limits by default
[14:35] <ikonia> Kartagis: isn't that the package ?
[14:35] <Siebjee> jrib: so does mine, but why isn't it working ?
[14:35] <xDesu> Kartagis, if you just install kde that should automatically try to satisfy depndencies.
[14:36] <RickZilla> I'm using a persistent Live USB of ubuntu 12.10. If I go ahead and install it to my HD, will it keep those settings that I've already made, or will it just be a fresh install?
[14:36] <takitez> Kartagis: you want the full set? install kubuntu-desktop   or kde-plasma-desktop for basic kde
[14:37] <Netfeed> is it possible to "upgrade sideways" from linux mint to ubuntu?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: fresh
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Netfeed: you'll need a reinstall
[14:37] <Netfeed> bummer
[14:37] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip: Thanks, is there a way to install otherwise?
[14:37] <jrib> Siebjee: works fine for me, all I did was add "*               -    nofile            65535" to my /etc/security/limits.conf and then "ssh localhost".  Maybe pastebin your /etc/security/limits.conf?  I didn't even touch anything in /etc/pam.d/
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: you could copy the contents of $HOME to an external storage and copy the data over once you get logged in
[14:38] <DJones> Netfeed: Only by a fresh install, I'd backup /home and do a fresh install and then transfer the backup to the new install
[14:38] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip: I'll look into that. Thanks for the support
[14:38] <Netfeed> alright, i hoped it was possible as they use the same base, ah well, i've got something to do this weekend then
[14:38] <dsa> hello
[14:39] <Siebjee> jrib: http://pastebin.com/NBPskses there is my limits.conf
[14:39] <RickZilla> Netfeed: I'm going back to ubuntu from LM also
[14:39] <jrib> Siebjee: seems fine.  Are both changes being ignored?
[14:39] <Siebjee> Yes
[14:40] <Netfeed> RickZilla: same "problem"? :)
[14:40] <jrib> Siebjee: you're sure there's nothing in your user's startup scripts changing the ulimit?
[14:41] <RickZilla> Netfeed: LM just acts too much like Windows, and I already have that...when I need Linux, I like the ubuntu experience a little more
[14:41] <Siebjee> jrib: only for the root user the ulimit is beeing changed as a temporary fix. But not for any other user. Only to check if they are correct or not and printing a message when they are not correct
[14:41] <jrib> Siebjee: what ubuntu version?
[14:42] <Netfeed> RickZilla: ah, i don't use cinnamon
[14:42] <Siebjee> jrib: well its debian squeeze, but its similar to 12.04 and 11.10
[14:42] <Siebjee> jrib: and the debian community aint responding to my request
[14:42] <RickZilla> Netfeed: What problems were you having with LM?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Siebjee: debian isn't supported here
[14:43] <jrib> Siebjee: here's my paste since I already put it up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399660/ but you should ask #debian (use the oftc channel) since there may be some differences
[14:43] <Netfeed> RickZilla: i guess i will have the same problem in ubuntu, but team fortress 2 crashes :)
[14:43] <MadEchidna> Okay, I uninstalled the new kernel, and reinstalled fglrx and x11-core or whatever
[14:43] <Siebjee> ActionParsnip: i know, but please work with me. I can work with ubuntu fixes and convert them to debian
[14:43] <MadEchidna> and I think everything is working okay now, I have direct rendering and Unity runs
[14:44] <MadEchidna> it feels little slower than before but I could just be imagining things
[14:44] <Touhou11> Siebjee: Agreed, Ubuntu basically is a specific configuration of Debian after all
[14:44] <MadEchidna> thanks for your help ikonia and Pici
[14:44] <RickZilla> Does Amazon have some kind of deal with ubuntu? I noticed there was a sidebar button just for Amazon on the fresh ubuntu install
[14:44] <Nvveen> Hey all. I reinstalled Ubuntu Quantal today, but I'm having an issue with executing scripts and executables locally. I have a bash script build.sh that I can only execute with "bash build.sh" instead of "./build.sh". I have all permissions set correctly and its executable bit has been also set
[14:44] <Nvveen> In Precise, I didn't have anything like this issue
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: you can disable that if you want
[14:45] <xDesu> RickZilla I believe they do, but you can disable it.
[14:45] <Touhou11> RickZilla: Canonical (who make Ubuntu) get money if you click and then buy through Amazon. Amazon don't "have a deal" as such, anyone can do Amazon referral links
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Nvveen: is the file executable?
[14:45] <RickZilla> Got it
[14:46] <MadEchidna> RickZilla, if you don't like the Amazon search results in Unity, you can disable it in the Privacy settings pane
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Nvveen: what is the ls -la ./build.sh     output (the .sh extension isn't needed in linux)
[14:46] <Touhou11> RickZilla: There's bug reports to get similar Amazon enhancing features when searching in the terminal
[14:46] <Nvveen> ActionParsnip, yes, all permissions have been set
[14:46] <MadEchidna> just hit the ubuntu logo and type Privacy
[14:46] <RickZilla> I was thinking that if I wanted Amazon advertising I'd just get a Kindle Fire
[14:46] <MadEchidna> anyway thanks for the help guys I've got work to do now
[14:46] <spm-Draget> The 32bit Version of Ubuntu 12.04 is recommended. Any rough guess how much more instability I should expect with ubuntu 12.04 64bit? Like, is this just 'a bit less well tested' or should I relly expect occasional problems?
[14:46] <Nvveen> ActionParsnip, about the extension: It's so I myself know it's a bash script
[14:46] <southern> hey guys
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> spm-Draget: its not about stability
[14:46] <Siebjee> jrib: your settings are the same as mine, it is kind of strange why it doesn't work.
[14:47] <RickZilla> But, I don't mind supporting Canonical, so that wouldn't be a bad idea when I need to get something from Amazon anyway
[14:47] <jrib> Siebjee: we're using different OS
[14:47] <xDesu> Nvveen you can also state in the script what you wish yo run it with (e.x. #!/usr/bin/env bash)
[14:47] <southern> I have an ubuntu server 10.04 and host lookup ignores the /etc/hosts file content
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Nvveen: is the top line in the file:   #!/bin/bash     ?
[14:47] <Nvveen> -rwxr-xr-x 1 neal neal 179 Nov 29 01:19 build.sh
[14:48] <southern> the nsswitch.conf file seems to OK
[14:48] <KI4RO> My wife's system is still at 12.04.  Do I have to wake up something in the update manager to get her to 12.10 or will it eventually figure it out and take care of it itself?
[14:48] <southern> hosts:          files dns
[14:48] <Nvveen> ActionParsnip, yes. It's also not limited to just the bash script. The executable that is made in that build script (c++ compilation) isn't executable either
[14:49] <spm-Draget> ActionParsnip: I am aware of some propetarian drivers and 64bit issues etc. But as for stability, I should expect about the same experience as in 32bit? Okay, thanks.
[14:49] <zykotick9> KI4RO: by default LTS releases only update to other LTS releases, there is some way to change that... but i don't know it.
[14:49] <KI4RO> zykes-: Thanks for the info
[14:49] <Touhou11> RickZilla: Just need to be aware that anything you search for on your local computer gets sent to Amazon... hence the privacy concerns
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> spm-Draget: yes both are equally stable. proprietary drivers are also 64bit
[14:49] <KI4RO> zykotick9: Thanks
[14:49] <Siebjee> jrib: gonna try if i can reproduce it on 12.04.1
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Nvveen: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:50] <media-centre>  a different problem
[14:50] <xDesu> KI4RO http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-to-ubuntu-12-10
[14:50] <KI4RO> xDesu: Thanks
[14:50] <Nvveen> ActionParsnip, quantal
[14:50] <RickZilla> Touhoull: Is nothing sacred anymore? I thought that was the point of FOSS
[14:50] <media-centre> 1394 firewire card
[14:50] <media-centre> same problem dosent come up
[14:50] <southern> PLS help
[14:50] <Touhou11> RickZilla: A lot of us agree, it's reduced Ubuntu to basically adware software. Can always use Linux Mint
[14:51] <Siebjee> jrib: same problem on 12.04.1
[14:51] <jrib> Siebjee: i'm on 12.10, but I can test on 12.04.  One sec
[14:51] <zykotick9> Touhou11: RickZilla and anything you type into Unity gets sent to canonical - who then shares it with facebooka and twitter :|
[14:51] <xDesu> KI4R
[14:51] <RickZilla> zykotick9: Even if I don't have an account there?
[14:52] <Siebjee> jrib: the pam settings are okay, and i added the '*       -       nofile  65335' line to the limits.conf
[14:52] <zykotick9> RickZilla: you have an account with canonical... if you use unity ;)
[14:52] <RickZilla> true
[14:52] <media-centre> so can any of you help with that instead
[14:52] <RickZilla> I do like the ubuntu layout, so I can't argue with that
[14:53] <jrib> Siebjee: did not seem to work on 12.04 :)
[14:53] <media-centre> so can any of you help with that
[14:53] <jrib> Siebjee: erm, one sec I made a typo
[14:54] <jrib> Siebjee: works now :/
[14:54] <opieng> Does Ubuntu work ok the Raspberry Pi?
[14:54] <b0ot> Anyone know of an easy to setup cluster based instant messenging server on a private network (no internet access). I want essentially there to be one global set of users for N number of servers. I want the system to be able to work no matter what servers are online or even if the servers were seperated into two LANS each LAN would still work (obviously couldn't talk across the LANS if they werent connected but they could still provide services within thei
[14:54] <b0ot> r own LAN)
[14:54] <southern> Why my /etc/hosts file is not working on my Ubuntu 10.04?
[14:54] <jrib> southern: be more specific
[14:54] <Touhou11> southern: One second, just putting on my magic hat
[14:54] <media-centre> none of you can help with my firewire problem
[14:55] <media-centre> instead of thhat webcam problem
[14:55] <Touhou11> media-centre: Never used firewire, isn't that only used on macs?
[14:55] <media-centre> no
[14:55] <media-centre> just more popular
[14:55] <Siebjee> jrib: strange... it couldn't be the sudo access for multiple users right ?
[14:55] <jrib> Siebjee: on your 12.04, does everything look the same: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399800/
[14:56] <southern> issuing 'host dummydomain' command returns with Host dummydomain not found: 3 (NXDOMAIN)
[14:56] <edgy> Hi, I installed ubuntu and can't make my webcam work, I don't even have a /dev/video0 device
[14:57] <southern> in /etc/hosts file there is 127.0.0.1 dummydomain record
[14:57] <southern> in nsswitch.conf file there is hosts:          files dns line
[14:58] <southern> I can't figure out the situation...
[14:58] <jrib> Siebjee: I don't see how sudo would be related
[14:58] <southern> the system is ubuntu server 10.04
[14:58] <Nvveen> Oh for god's sake, now Nautilus keeps crashing when I open my Home-folder
[14:59] <RickZilla> besides, I can only imagine what info that M$ is keeping
[14:59] <Siebjee> jrib: you're output is kind of odd, and so it your grep statement
[14:59] <jrib> southern: maybe host is behaving correctly?  Can you check what its documentation says it does?
[14:59] <jrib> Siebjee: in what way?
[14:59] <edgy> southern: what's your problem?
[15:00] <dsa> having a problem with transmission daemon seems settings aren't making it stop seeding when it hits certain ratio http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399809/
[15:00] <jrib> Siebjee: note the "/etc/pamd.d" is part of my prompt in case that's confusing
[15:00] <Siebjee> jrib: anyway, the pam.d/sshd contains the require for limits.so, and the limits.conf contains the nofile statement for every user (*)
[15:00] <southern> actually I'm expecting to get resolve dummydomain with host command
[15:00] <Siebjee> jrib: 'grep limits *                                        /etc/pam.d' this not work
[15:00] <edgy> southern: hos utility would check dns records not your local /etc/hosts
[15:01] <jrib> Siebjee: right, I'm in the /etc/pam.d/ directory and execute "grep limits *"
[15:01] <southern> what is the proper command to check if /etc/hosts is working?
[15:01] <Siebjee> jrib: then it looks the same :)
[15:01] <mithran> what is the command used for fixing
[15:01] <jrib> Siebjee: ok, well weird.  And you're just logging in with ssh?
[15:02] <Siebjee> jrib: correction, almost the same
[15:02] <edgy> southern: try ping
[15:02] <jrib> Siebjee: I'm sure you are, but just to be sure, you are logging in again after making the changes, correct?
[15:02] <Siebjee> jrib: i haev a match in atd, which you dont have
[15:02] <mithran> help me .......what is the command used for fixing
[15:02] <belgianguy> hmm I'm on 4GB of RAM and am experiencing frequent hangups with a browser open (Firefox), an IDE open (IntelliJ) and an emulator (Android)
[15:02] <southern> edgy: it works!
[15:02] <jrib> Siebjee: it's probably just not installed, it's a pretty bare install
[15:02] <takitez> mithran: fixing what?
[15:02] <southern> edgy: thank you
[15:02] <belgianguy> I did see I'm not using swap
[15:02] <edgy> southern: welcome
[15:02] <belgianguy> would that matter much?
[15:03] <belgianguy> and I'm on 12.10 64bit
[15:03] <Siebjee> jrib: could explain it, but i wanted to be specific. Just to prevent any confusions
[15:03] <jrib> Siebjee: yep
[15:03] <mithran> takitez: to fix partial updates
[15:03] <regf> just for the record: my desktop computer won't resume from hibernation, as one of my hard disks died... swap/resume partition being on mirror md device apparently doesn't help much
[15:04] <jrib> Siebjee: let's compare /etc/ssh/sshd_config I guess, can you pastebin yours?
[15:04] <mithran> takitez: to fix partial updates
[15:04] <Oren_Bochman> rebooting see you on the other side
[15:04] <RickZilla> Maybe the wrong channel for this, but is the ubuntu one worth checking out? 5G free storage seems pretty generous
[15:04] <Siebjee> jrib: i also recently installed puppet to manage all the servers we have. And that one is also managing the sshd.conf
[15:05] <willh> anybody a FOG expert out there?
[15:05] <Touhou11> The weather?
[15:05] <mithran> takitez: to fix partial updates am using ubuntu ultimate 12.04
[15:05] <willh> I have just a couple machines that the hostname can't be resolved, and they will not image properly.
[15:05] <takitez> willh: visibilty < 1000m   scnr ;)
[15:06] <mithran> ultimate edition 12.04
[15:06] <willh> takitez:  ?
[15:06] <Belserusk> Hi guys. How can I make this exit the terminal? How should I add "& exit"          alias bb='sudo bleachbit'
[15:06] <edgy> I installed ubuntu and can't make my webcam work, I don't even have a /dev/video0 device
[15:06] <jrib> Siebjee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399830/ should be default.  I assume the commented "#UsePAM yes" indicates that's the default setting.  But you might try uncommenting it in your setup to ensure pam is getting used
[15:07] <mithran> please help me.....................takitez: to fix partial updates am using ubuntu ultimate 12.04
[15:07] <Siebjee> jrib: 'UsePAM no' is stated in the config
[15:07] <jrib> Siebjee: actually, sshd_config man page says the default is no.  But maybe ubuntu changed it to yes.  You might try toggling it just to troubleshoot and see if it makes a difference
[15:07] <Siebjee> jrib: so i guess thats the smoking gun ?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> edgy: have you tried it in cheese?
[15:08] <Siebjee> jrib: if i change 'UsePAM' to yes then it works indeed
[15:09] <mithran> what is the command used for fixing partial updates
[15:09] <jrib> Siebjee: cool
[15:09] <Siebjee> jrib: FYI, thats also the debian fix ;)
[15:09] <gustav__> When will nvidia-current 310.19 be released?
[15:09] <k1l> mithran: ultimate edition isnt an official ubuntu. and while their page seems to have problems it may be causes by their ppa or other sources. so please ask the ultimate support
[15:11] <mithran> k1l: thanks lol.... where can i find their help is there any forum like this
[15:11] <Touhou11> Ultimate Edition has a supremely ugly website
[15:11] <zykotick9> mithran: fyi, NEVER to partital updates - it translates to "this will break your system"
[15:11] <DareDevils> hola a todos, como puedo mantener ubuntu actualizado pero con una pariencia version 10.10?
[15:12] <edgy> ActionParsnip: yes, nothing in cheese came out
[15:12] <morteza> help
[15:12] <k1l> mithran: since their homepage seems down try this http://forumubuntusoftware.info/
[15:12] <mithran> zykotick9: ok thank you
[15:13] <mithran> k1l: ok i am going there thanks for you all
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> !es |  daredevils
[15:14] <fishcooker> how to enable bluetooth .. i've tried on ubuntu help about bluetooth
[15:14] <fishcooker> but not work
[15:14] <fishcooker> even not detected
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> fishcooker, try blueman (bluetooth manager)
[15:15] <fishcooker> im on 10.04
[15:16] <TandyUK> hi guys, help with udev please.. i have 2 tv cards which get /dev/dvb/adapterX/ mappings created at boot, but they keep swithcing
[15:16] <TandyUK> whats the simplest way to add a udev rule to assign the same physical card the same /dev/dvb/... address each time?
[15:19] <Oren_Bochman> i've had some problem with the window installer
[15:20] <Oren_Bochman> wubildr.mbr  not found ..
[15:20] <yilmaz> hi, I was playing with language settings in 12.04. Language of the gnome GUI has changed now although I had changed the default values back. How can I revert this change?
[15:20] <yilmaz> appears like /etc/default/locale does not affect much
[15:21] <xyzone> just change it back
[15:21] <yilmaz> xyzone, I think I changed it back
[15:21] <yilmaz> did not seem to work
[15:21] <xyzone> log in and back out
[15:22] <xyzone> i mean the other way
[15:22] <yilmaz> /etc/default/locale has changed to default values. but even a restart does not change the system language
[15:22] <xyzone> revert the language settings
[15:22] <yilmaz> does gnome have locale settings womewhere else?
[15:22] <jrib> yilmaz: you choose your locale at the login screen
[15:23] <yilmaz> jrib, could not find that setting there
[15:23] <jrib> yilmaz: are you using lightdm?
[15:23] <yilmaz> jrib, let me do a dpkg-reconfig
[15:24] <empt> hi guys
[15:24] <darrenlooby> Hi Guys, I'm using uShare - and trying to find a way of seeing if someone is currently streaming
[15:24] <darrenlooby> How would I go about doing that?
[15:25] <bator> dont understand
[15:26] <yilmaz> jrib, yes lightdm is installed gdm not installed
[15:26] <jrib> yilmaz: well, the option for language selection should be exposed at the login screen
[15:26] <simplew> how can i downgrade to a previous kernel version?
[15:26] <yilmaz> jrib can I simpl install gdm:
[15:26] <Alice_linux> How can I clone my entire ubuntu partition?
[15:27] <yilmaz> I hate this keyboard, sorry
[15:27] <jrib> yilmaz: if you want to.  I don't see how it will help
[15:27] <empt> i am using ubuntu 12.10 and unity as my desktop. recently i intalled the nvidia driver using the package nvidia-current-updates but after that, when i move my mouse to the left side of the screen the launcher bar won't show up, what should i do??
[15:27] <yilmaz> jrib, I assumed lang selection is possible in gdm and not in lightdm
[15:28] <jrib> yilmaz: it's possible in both
[15:28] <yilmaz> I would say this is a papercut unless I am totally missing where to change lang settings
[15:28] <bluj> sudo apt-get update -> "W: Failed to fetch http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/lucid-updates/Release Unable to find expected entry" help?
[15:29] <sandjkirkland> I am having problems with my computer freezing when I use the internet.
[15:29] <yilmaz> I thought it would be meaningful to change lang setting in system settings/lang settings
[15:29] <yilmaz> appears like not doing intended changes
[15:30] <sandjkirkland> can someone help or direct me to the proper channel
[15:30] <jrib> yilmaz: actually I just checked and no longer see language selection in lightdm either :/
[15:30] <yilmaz> sandjkirkland, sounds like network card problem
[15:30] <jrib> yilmaz: check what's in your ~/.dmrc
[15:30] <yilmaz> checking...
[15:31] <yilmaz> jrib, that's a 1 byte file appears to be empty
[15:31] <sandjkirkland> yilaz: its randomly freezing. When it freezes the screen goes white and nothing works. it doesn't matter how i connect via wifi or direct
[15:31] <DreamKiller> does anyone have expierence in running a ubuntu file server in a VM?
[15:31] <edgy> ActionParsnip: I see some others have the same problem, it used to work but stopped lately, I even see a comment by you on one of those threads
[15:31] <yilmaz> jrib, also the dm language is also not the default one
[15:32] <jrib> yilmaz: can you describe exactly what you did?
[15:32] <jrib> yilmaz: (before when you changed the language)
[15:32] <bkfitz> Anyone know what it means when I have a whole block of "@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^...." in my syslog
[15:32] <yilmaz> jrib, went to language settings in system settings
[15:33] <jrib> yilmaz: and then?
[15:33] <jrib> yilmaz: you mean "language support"?
[15:33] <yilmaz> jrib, default lang was english. Was trying to find a way to change localization settings without changing the language
[15:34] <jrib> yilmaz: so what did you change exactly?
[15:34] <yilmaz> jrib moved Turkish up to first position in list and then moved back
[15:34] <yilmaz> without closing the window
[15:34] <opieng> Does Ubuntu work ok the Raspberry Pi?
[15:34] <yilmaz> then rebooted and Turkish is everywhere now
[15:34] <yilmaz> :)
[15:34] <IdleOne> opieng: #ubuntu-arm can help with that
[15:34] <opieng> brill thanks IdleOne
[15:35] <jrib> yilmaz: heh.  Can you pastebin the output of « env » and « locale »?
[15:35] <DreamKiller> is there a special channel for creating virtual machines?
[15:35] <teresa_> @@@@
[15:35] <jrib> yilmaz: also it will probably be useful to create a new user and see if he is in turkish as well.  This way we can see if it's a system-wide setting or not.  I don't actually know how a user is meant to change his language now since it seems to have been removed from login
[15:38] <invisibleheero> Hey guys, I was switching around desktops to see which one I like the most. As of now I enjoy gnome-shell but dislike the fact that it display EVERYTHING in the activities, so I switched to gnome-classic. Now, when I switched back to gnome-shell my key bindings are all messed up including my Desktop background settings. OTHER than a Fresh install is there a way of resetting all settings back to default and purging all the
[15:38] <invisibleheero> other Desktops?
[15:38] <jrib> yilmaz: while you're pastebinning, include: /etc/default/locale, /etc/environment and ~/.pam_environment
[15:43] <subterfuge1750> Looking for a second opinion -- I am doing some work for a law firm -- the goal is to search a bunch of old computers for porn (both downloaded and homemade) -- Access:  I or other staff members have copied entire HDDs to one external HDD.  Each box is in its own directory.  -- Script I have come up with to find all audio, video, or image files is this    "    find /replace/with/path/to/dir -iregex '.*\(mpeg\|mpg\|mp
[15:44] <jrib> subterfuge1750: but then you're using extensions only...
[15:44] <gharz> hi guys... has anyone successfully install ubuntu alongside with windowz 8? i miss my ubuntu
[15:45] <jrib> subterfuge1750: and your message was truncated in the middle of your "iregex"
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> subterfuge1750: use foremost on the unmounted drives, see what comes out :)
[15:46] <KaiForce> I built two new LTS servers to run bind on and I need help to migrate bind from the old servers.  Can anyone suggest an appropriate channel for help with that?
[15:46] <subterfuge1750> jrib: I will past bin if you have time to look at it, I just had someone walk in the door BRB on that in a second
[15:47] <jrib> subterfuge1750: I have to step away for a bit too, but you can pastebin and others can help or I can when I return later
[15:47] <gac> KaiForce: BIND config formats haven't really changed in years, you can probably just copy the files over to the same location on your new box...
[15:47] <subterfuge1750> ActionParsnip: sorry I don't know what that ment (it was mildly over my head) I will have to google... Can you frame what that does for me?
[15:48] <KaiForce> gac:  that's what I thought but these servers are authoritative for a bunch of domains so I don't want to screw it up!
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> subterfuge1750: it recovers deleted files as wellas the standing data
[15:48] <KaiForce> plus the slave server is going to have a name change.
[15:49] <gac> KaiForce: copy the configs over and start BIND, you can then query against it manually without it being used by Internet resolvers. will be a reasonable test that way
[15:49] <KaiForce> gac:  ok will do, thanks for your suggestion.
[15:49] <krz> hi
[15:49] <gac> KaiForce: once you're confident it's resolving everything it needs to for you manually, you should be able to switch the authoritative nameservers over at your registrar :)
[15:50] <krz> im thinking of buying a gaming laptop with a 240gb ssd and a msata ssd 40gb. will the msata ssd play well?
[15:51] <gac> krz: in what context? you mean "will it work with Ubuntu"?
[15:51] <krz> yea, because i will have to ssd's
[15:51] <krz> thinking of dual-booting. win and ubuntu into the msata drive
[15:52] <krz> and any other storage into the ssd
[15:52] <gac> Ubuntu won't care how many SSDs you have, it'll work the same as any other multi-drive system
[15:52] <subterfuge1750> ActionParsnip: I am looking at the foremost man page now.  Looks like I would (as you stated) have to have access to the physical drives.  This would only be possible now on a few of the many.
[15:52] <jason6247> hi.. sorry guy, i need to ask for help about seq command to generate increment numbers, i know the command, but what bugs me is i cannot generete numbers beyond 8 digits
[15:53] <jason6247> when i do this ; seq -f "%010g" 555555 555557
[15:53] <Oren_Bochman> hi got problems installing under windows 8
[15:53] <jason6247> it give me this, which is what i want 0000555555 0000555556 0000555557
[15:53] <jason6247> when i do this seq -f "%010g" 5555555 5555557
[15:53] <subterfuge1750> jrib:   &  ActionParsnip:    & all others   : Looking for a second opinion -- I am doing some work for a law firm -- the goal is to search a bunch of old computers for porn (both downloaded and homemade) -- Access:  I or other staff members have copied entire HDDs to one external HDD.  Each box is in its own directory.  -- Script I have come up with to find all audio, video, or image files is this   http://pastebin.c
[15:53] <jason6247> it give me this,5.55556e+06 5.55556e+06 5.55556e+06
[15:54] <Oren_Bochman> \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr   ... status 0xc000007b
[15:54] <gharz> guys, i just received a laptop with pre-installed windowz 8 ... has anyone succesfully installed ubuntu on a win8 machine? i tried but just wasted my time. :( anyone?
[15:54] <jason6247> which is not what i want, i want is 0005555555
[15:54] <Oren_Bochman> version is 12.10
[15:55] <gharz> Oren_Bochman: same here... problem installing ubuntu in windowz 8
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> Oren_Bochman, wubi?
[15:55] <Oren_Bochman> yep
[15:55] <jason6247> dot use wubi
[15:55] <jason6247> create a new partition and install ur buntu
[15:56] <Oren_Bochman> not sure if I can
[15:58] <jason6247> @ Oren boch
[15:58] <jason6247> u create 2 partition in ur laptop
[15:59] <jason6247> 1 partition is for urbuntu, 1 partiton around 4gb for ur swap partiton
[15:59] <Troy^> what is the best way to listen to my music collection in ubuntu from my samba share seems none of my music players likes adding a cifs samba share for its library?
[15:59] <gharz> jason6247: i've a laptop with pre-installed win8 and when i checked disk management... it has already 4 primary partitions.
[15:59] <bhavesh> I want to start minimized empathy (or log in to empathy) every time I boot, if I add empathy command to startup applications, it opens maximized empathy, what should I do?
[15:59] <jason6247> then u dont use GRUB to for dual-boot, u download easybcd to edit the windows boot manager to actually do the dual boot
[16:00] <gac> bhavesh: "empathy -h" should do that
[16:00] <bhavesh> gac: thanks a lot :D
[16:00] <jason6247> then u need to fix/relocate the partition,
[16:00] <jason6247> forget about DIsk Management partition in windows, its sucks, u use this tools
[16:01] <bloouup> hey, just a quick question, on unity-greeter, is there anyway to just get rid of the session change button?
[16:01] <jason6247> u download easus partition manager
[16:02] <jason6247> free 1 http://www.partition-tool.com/
[16:03] <jason6247> works great and let u resize ur disk partition with ease, then u just instal ubuntu in ur laptop as usuall, just skip the GRUB part, never install grub to replace windows boot manager, use easybcd to set windows boot manager to do the dual boot
[16:03] <jason6247> if u instal GRUB, you are xuck already, because it will mess up windows
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> jason6247, don't say u and ur, please, the may not be a native speaker
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> the guy*
[16:04] <jason6247> short form, too long for me to type you and tour
[16:04] <jason6247> your
[16:05] <RickZilla> gharz: At least one of those is for system restore...which you don't need if you hung on to or created your win8 backup disk
[16:05] <Nvveen> Okay, I'm having some MAJOR problems with 12.10. I installed it after the upgrade messed up my installation of 12.04, but now the Nvidia driver won't work at all, while I don't even get a popup asking me to install any additional drivers. I had absolutely no problems with 12.04, is this common for 12.10?
[16:06] <Oren_Bochman> jason6247: do I need to format the patitions ?
[16:06] <bhavesh> I was just installing google chrome from the .deb available at chrome.google.com and ubuntu says that the package is of bad quality and may cause serious problems if I install it
[16:06] <RickZilla> bhavesh: 12.10? Same thing happened to me last night. I went ahead and installed anyway, seems to work fine
[16:06] <Oren_Bochman> jason6247: also how do I install without wubi ?
[16:06] <jrib> subterfuge1750: your message was truncated again... you should use a bettter client :)
[16:07] <bhavesh> Nvveen: the additional drivers popup is removed I think, you can install nvidia drivers from settings > additional sources
[16:07] <bhavesh> RickZilla: I just did that :)
[16:07] <Nvveen> bhavesh, Why did they remove it?
[16:07] <jason6247> No need, just leave the windows partition alone, but when you bootup ubuntu with live cd, make sure you remember which partition you select when you install ubuuntu
[16:08] <subterfuge1750> jrib:  roger will add it to the list  --- here is the link http://pastebin.com/Dg2dt6ZQ
[16:08] <Oren_Bochman> so ineed to burn an instalation image to a dvd  and boot from it ?
[16:08] <wangzh> what?
[16:08] <bhavesh> Nvveen: no idea. But installing  nvidia proprietary drivers, may break unity, so if it does use this: http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=install%20nvidia%20drivers%20in%20ubuntu%2012.10&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CEQQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechhamlet.com%2F2012%2F11%2Finstall-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10%2F&ei=Ddq4UOH3IMbqrAf_v4HoCQ&usg=AFQjCNEPBgX4cmdJa8mMapZuggcn-3svGg
[16:08] <jason6247> if you know how to make bootable usb, then no need burn cd
[16:09] <jrib> subterfuge1750: one problem you'll have is that if you have file a/c and file b/c matching, then you can't symlink to both like that
[16:09] <wangzh> yes
[16:09] <Oren_Bochman> how big would the usb need to be ?
[16:09] <subterfuge1750> jrib:   what do you mean by a/c and  b/c
[16:10] <jrib> subterfuge1750: by "a/c" I mean a file named "c" in a directory named "a"
[16:10] <bloouup> hey, just a quick question, on unity-greeter, is there anyway to just get rid of the session change button?
[16:10] <usr13> Oren_Bochman: 1G is enough
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> bhavesh: one of the reasons I don't use google
[16:10] <eniltalF> Has anyonr figured out how to ger the menu and notification area transparent in Gnome Classic?
[16:11] <usr13> Oren_Bochman: (For the CD image.)
[16:11] <jason6247> i advise you install ubuntu with all /home /usr  and 2 other directories in the same partition, when you reach the step in configuring your partition, just select  " ./ " to put all the home usr boot folder in one partition,
[16:11] <jason6247> make it nicer :)
[16:11] <jason6247> then you need 1 more partition for swap,
[16:11] <subterfuge1750> jrib:   or so if I have two separate and different files on two drives both named image001.jpg   then it wont work?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> jason6247: separate /home, / and swap is my preference
[16:11] <jason6247> around 2 gb or 4 gh will do
[16:11] <bloouup> Okay, does anyone know anything about unity-greeter?
[16:11] <jrib> subterfuge1750: right, you're trying to create symlinks back to the files right?
[16:11] <eniltalF> I always have seperate partitions for / and home...seperate drive for /swap
[16:12] <subterfuge1750> jrib:  yes
[16:12] <jason6247> up to you, which ever you like
[16:12] <usr13> ActionParsnip: I agree.  (If you have separate /home/ partition, you have future option to do fresh install while leaving your personal files alone, (still there).
[16:12] <jrib> subterfuge1750: if it's sufficient I would just save the list that find spits back
[16:13] <jason6247> if you doing dual boot buntu/win then there will be alot of partition on your laptop
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> usr13: true, makes backups easier too
[16:13] <bloouup> I just want to get rid of the session menu on the greeter. Is this possible?
[16:14]  * MonkeyDust has separate /home, too
[16:14] <eniltalF> *Ack*...don't dual boot.
[16:14] <eniltalF> if you NEED window$, run it as a VM.
[16:14] <usr13> Having separate /home/ is good for experimental puposes as well.
[16:14] <jrib> subterfuge1750: also, I think that if I were in your shoes I'd also do a search for files bigger than a certain size as that will likely catch all videos, and depending on how thorought I wanted to be, I'd use "file" to check the filetype instead of relying on the file extension.  Finally, I'd check for archives too (like .zip, etc.).  I'd be surprised if there isn't some tool that does this already (searches
[16:14] <jrib> for all media files)
[16:14] <eniltalF> Windows 7 runs more efficently in VirtualBox on my computer than it does as dual boot.
[16:14] <subterfuge1750> jrib:  The plan of action is to have a link to every file from every HDD in one location, then have a firm staff member go through them and look at each one to see if it has value to the case ----  can I add a IF file name is already in dir THEN add sequential number to it
[16:15] <RickZilla> eniltalF Sometimes we need Win as a dual boot, especially if it's a family computer
[16:15] <Maji> Hello, i'm currently stuck in a tty because when i boot up ubuntu the screen loses signal and when it powers back up it says ubuntu is using low graphics... what do i do?
[16:15] <jason6247> canot, if your laptop still under warranty, if spoilt you send for repair, they will consider your warranty void
[16:16] <eniltalF> RickZilla: yea, that is true.
[16:16] <subterfuge1750> jrib: if there is a tool then my googlefu failed me bad
[16:16] <usr13> Maji: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[16:16] <Maji> sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[16:16] <Maji> lol
[16:16] <Maji> derp, i'll brb
[16:17] <jrib> subterfuge1750: I guess you could do that.  You could also just consider using something like rsync to copy (or just hardlink, I think that's possible) to files of a certain type.  Then you'd retain the directory structure.  If that makes it harder to navigate, then I'd just create a list with find of all the images, then they can open an image viewer on that list. And do a similar thing for videos
[16:17] <Maji> usr13, i've got no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[16:17] <subterfuge1750> jrib what there is a ton of tools for, of which i can't seem to sort through an pick a good one, is a tool/program/script that will take old MSOutlook .dbx files and make them human readable
[16:17] <jrib> subterfuge1750: don't know about that :)
[16:18] <subterfuge1750> jrib: Thanks for your help
[16:18] <usr13> Maji: Ok, that rules that one out.
[16:19] <jrib> subterfuge1750: no problem
[16:19] <usr13> Maji: Take a look at the log file.
[16:19] <usr13> Maji: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:19] <djQuery_> when I hookup my cell phone it adds  network driver, is there a way to disable this?
[16:20] <att> hi! I made a clean install with 12.10, everything seems fine, but I've got the "JavaScript bug"; I had Oracle-Java 8 now
[16:20] <usr13> Maji: Usually, you'll find the problem in the last 20 or 25 lines, so read backward, see if you see someting interesting.
[16:20] <att> when I try to load webpages like facebook or askubuntu, etc. the page seems horrbile
[16:21] <usr13> Maji: You can share the file with us:  pastebilnit /var/log/Xorg.0.log   #And send resulting URL.
[16:21] <att> with Firefox and Chroimum too
[16:21] <usr13> Maji: ..... here  .....
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> att: if you make a new user, is it the same?
[16:21] <att> ActionParsnip: try, wait a sec
[16:21] <sabel> I have a quick question can anyone help me?
[16:21] <usr13> sabel: ask it.
[16:22] <nydel> sabel: we can & will try, ask away
[16:22] <Maji> usr13: i'll be right back after rebooting
[16:23] <Alefeche> hola
[16:23] <att> ActionParsnip: yes, with other user too
[16:23] <sabel> I'm currently in the process of installing ubuntu. It was a huge hassle last night to get windows to actually let me shrink its partition enough to where i was comfertable. I have 150gb of free space on which i would like to install Ubuntu. In the installer i select the "other" option rather than install over windows or side by side so that i can manually select this 150GB of free space. I check the free space option and click install n
[16:23] <Alefeche> hello??
[16:23] <sabel> "no root file system is defined please correct this from the partitioning menu" how does one..correct this?
[16:24] <RickZilla> Alefeche: Just ask a question if you have one
[16:24] <RickZilla> And be patient
[16:24] <usr13> sabel: It's asking you to create the partition(s)
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> att: is it a known bug
[16:24] <Alefeche> what kind of question?
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> sabel, if you choose 'other', you need to define a /home and a /root partition
[16:24] <sandjkirkland> join #networking
[16:24] <rymate1234> Alefeche, a question related to your Ubuntu issue
[16:25] <RickZilla> Alefeche: You said hello. This is an IRC channel for discussing topics related to Ubuntu
[16:25] <sabel> Well if i select the "install side by side" option will ubuntu install itself on the free space?
[16:25] <stroodlepup> any config tool for odbc?
[16:25] <zykotick9> sabel: that's root meaning /, not /root
[16:25] <usr13> sabel: So, select the free space and create partitions of your choosing.  (I recommend swap 8G, / 20G, and the rest for /home/ )
[16:25] <att> ActionParsnip: but what should I do now? I read about MTU changing, but nothing changed
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9, thanks, i misstyped
[16:25] <Alefeche> oh, sorry
[16:26] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: :)
[16:26] <sabel> i guess im confused still. divde the 150gb into 8g, 20g, and the rest for /home/ ?
[16:26] <stroodlepup> any config tool for odbc?
[16:26] <usr13> sabel: By "/ 20G"   I mean the /root/ partition wich contains all your operating system and applications.
[16:26] <stroodlepup> gui
[16:26] <Slart> phix> you can get a skype plugin for asterisk if you really need skype support
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> att: all I can suggest is subscribe to the bug
[16:26] <HelloWorld321> Whats the Ubuntu equivalent of DiffMerge (a diff GUI on Mac)
[16:27] <Slart> oops, sorry
[16:27] <usr13> sabel: 8G for swap  partition.     20G for /  (root partition).   The rest for the /home/ (home partition).
[16:27] <att> ActionParsnip: uh..I don't belive it...I mean I know it's not your's fault
[16:27] <maji> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1399981/ here's the link. also, perhaps you know how to copy something in a tty? i had to type that out manually lol
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> !info meld
[16:27] <stroodlepup> hi?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> !info gvimdiff
[16:28] <att> ActionParsnip: thanks for helping
[16:28] <HelloWorld321> tx ActionParsnip
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> HelloWorld321: all I did was search the web
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> HelloWorld321: I don't use diff...
[16:28] <sabel> I see /boot and /home as "mount point" options for the new partition but not swap
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> sabel: swap doesn't have a mount point
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> sabel: just set the file system to swap and it's handled
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> HelloWorld321: http://www.bing.com/search?q=diff+gui+ubuntu&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=diff+gui+ubuntu&sc=0-0&sp=-1&sk=     is all I did
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> HelloWorld321: nothing too complicated....
[16:30] <zykotick9> sabel: unless you are using raid or some encyrption-thing, i doubt you need a separate /boot
[16:31] <usr13> sabel: I agree with zykotick9.  You only need 3.  /home/, swap, and  /
[16:32] <usr13> maji: What is your hardware?  What kind of computer is it?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> usr13: if you have an SSD and a platter based storage, putting /var on the platter is good
[16:32] <sabel> ...alright...so i now have a swap partition of 8 gigs...a home partition of 132g and a boot partition of 20gb..i click install now and i still get the "no /root file system is defined
[16:32] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Noted....
[16:33] <zykotick9> sabel: you need a / directory.  / is NOT /boot.
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> usr13: its all logs files and temp deb files, these are writes to the drive where speed isn't hugely needed :)
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> sabel, you need to check 'format to ext4'
[16:33] <usr13> sabel: You said boot partition of 20G,  (Did you mean to say  root partition?)
[16:33] <maji> usr13: desktop, regarding the grapics its a Radeon HD5850. funny thing is: ubuntu ran perfectly before, boot it up today and then this shows up
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> sabel, that's just a slash, it means root
[16:34] <usr13> maji: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade   #See what that does.
[16:34] <istevenmon> hello guys i have a server which i would like to replay installation, configuration, etc to 50 other servers, is there a way to create an ISO of how the system looks like right now and apply to the other servers?
[16:34] <sabel> i have them all checked except for swap that i cant check to format to ext4
[16:34] <sabel> and no i ment 20g for boot..i thought you mentioned that.
[16:35] <usr13> sabel: swap does not get formatted to ext4 filesystem,  It does not get formatted at all.  So leave that one, (un-formatted).
[16:35] <usr13> sabel: Change boot  to /   (root)
[16:36] <maji> usr13: it just update my package-list am i right? it seems like it did without problem, twice due to the ;
[16:36] <maji> +s
[16:36] <sabel> so i dont need boot? just / ?
[16:36] <usr13> sabel: You do not need 20G for  a /boot partition.
[16:36] <usr13> sabel: Right.  not boot.   Just  /
[16:36] <sabel> where should i have the "device for boot loader installation" ? in the /home or / ?
[16:37] <k1l> sabel: /boot is actually in / . there is no need for a seperate /boot partition in a standard install
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> sabel: /
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> sabel, you only need to care about /home , /swap and /
[16:37] <sabel> YAY thanks! it seems to be working, you all are awesome.
[16:37] <usr13> sabel: The boot loader will go into the MBR, (first 512B of the primary HD).  The actual kernel you will boot will be in a directory in  /   (/boot/)
[16:37] <maji> usr13: seems like a apt-get upgrade would get me 138 packages, maybe that's a good idea?
[16:38] <bloouup> hey, just a quick question, on unity-greeter, is there anyway to just get rid of the session change button?
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> sabel, partitioning is the hardest part, it kept me from using linux years ago
[16:38] <usr13> maji: Yes
[16:38] <sabel> shrinking down my windows partition was a battle in and of itself...
[16:39] <a5m0> hi guys, i was trying to get opengl to work right on my intel 4000 graphics and ran this command after adding xorg-edgers ppa, but now i boot to a black screen sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-core
[16:39] <a5m0> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-intel
[16:39] <rex> bloouup : terminal --> sudo gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf in last line add allow-guest=false then save it.
[16:39] <bloouup> rex: that just disables the guest account. I want to get rid of the little button that lets you select a session
[16:39] <bloouup> like unity, xfce, fluxbox etc
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> a5m0: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[16:39] <bloouup> if you have those installed
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> rex: gksudo for gedit, not sudo
[16:40] <rex> bloouup: i have never installed
[16:40] <bloouup> It doesn't matter, it's still there by default
[16:40] <bloouup> if you log out you'll see a little ubuntu icon next to your username
[16:40] <rex> ActionParsnip: but it also work like that
[16:40] <bloouup> click it and you'll get "Unity" and something like "remote session"
[16:40] <usr13> sabel: Sometimes it is.  I reccommend [before starting a dual boot project] to first (in MS Windows), do defrag, and then scandisk.  (At least once, if not twice). And in that order. (Ms Windows is very sloppy)
[16:40] <bloouup> if you install other WMs and DEs they will be there too
[16:41] <a5m0> ActionParsnip, quantal
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> rex: yes but it can damage files in your home folder and make sudo not work, requiring you to drop to root recovery mode to chown the files from root to your user
[16:41] <sabel> ah i ran defraggler twice. deleted all the system restore points got rid of my page files and still only managed to wrestle 150 mb out of 350 free GB out of a 1TB hardrive....
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> rex: or you can simply use the OS right and avoid the mess
[16:42] <rex> ActionParsnip: got that.
[16:42] <sabel> Hmmm question. Now that i have ubuntu installed and working properly..it autoboots to ubuntu. how do i actually select it to boot to windows...?
[16:42] <usr13> sabel: scandisk?
[16:43] <sabel> oh oops..disreguard that last question. its still booting from the flash drive
[16:43] <usr13> sabel: YOu should be presented with the two options when the grub screen comes up.
[16:43] <RickZilla> Always a good time to do a disk health check also...you don't want to install ubuntu over some bad sectors
[16:43] <usr13> sabel: Are you sure you finished the install?
[16:44] <usr13> sabel: (That was too quick.)
[16:44] <sabel> the install finished and had me restart my pc...but..it now is booting to windows..did i mess something up?
[16:45] <yilmaz> jrib, sorry had to run away from desk. Did you suggest anything for me?
[16:45] <usr13> sabel: Yep, sure did.
[16:45] <usr13> sabel: Try again.
[16:46] <sabel> sweet...what did i do wrong..? it had me select my keyboard options my time zone and..said it copied the files and everythin.
[16:46] <Nvveen> Okay, I found out that my Nautilus keeps crashing because of the ubuntuone plugin. Anyone know of a fix or workaround for this? The bug seems to be quite common
[16:46] <usr13> sabel: What exactly are you installing?  (What is the name of the iso?)
[16:46] <sabel> idunno..i got it from ubuntu.com
[16:46] <sabel> is the desktop thing
[16:47] <deffrag> Hi regf, are you still there? What's the difference between logical sector size and physical sector size? I connected back drive to laptop and on fdisk it gave "Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes"
[16:47] <usr13> sabel: Ubuntu Desktop 12.04  ?
[16:47] <sabel> ubuntu-12.04 desktop 64 b it
[16:47] <sabel> yes
[16:47] <usr13> Ok...  Well try again.
[16:48] <sabel> Alright lol
[16:48] <geez> Hi, initctl list returns most of the more vital services with status: stop/waiting. This is a fresh install of 12.04 LTS. Attempts to restart anything especially networking fails. Any ideas?
[16:48] <usr13> sabel: The partitions are more-than-likely already created and so the installer will detect them and allow you to format and install on them.
[16:49] <usr13> geez: ifconfig eth0    #What does it say?
[16:49] <Nvveen> Okay, I fixed the nautilus crashing by removing Ubuntu One, but I actually use it, so does anyone know of a workaround?
[16:49] <sabel> how do i message a particular person like you are to me..?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Nvveen: use pcmanfm as file browser :)
[16:49] <usr13> sabel: /msg usr13  Hello?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> sabel: type a bit of the nick and hit TAB to complete the nick
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> sabel: it will then highlight the name
[16:50] <usr13> sabel: Oh yea,  put the name at the beginning of the line.
[16:50] <usr13> sabel: /msg usr13  Hello?    #Is for PM (private message).
[16:51] <Nvveen> ActionParsnip, I'd still rather use somethign that's integrated into Ubuntu though. Is this a common error?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Nvveen: no idea, i don't use ubuntuone. pcmanfm is integrated into ubuntu
[16:52] <zykotick9> deffrag: honestly, you should stop using fdisk.  even the man page for fdisk, in debian anyways, suggests using any alternative.  one quote "fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy things".  parted/gparted are much better alternatives (and support gpt).
[16:53] <bloouup> Does edubuntu use the stock unity-greeter
[16:53] <maji> usr13: the upgrade is done, should i do anything before i try rebooting
[16:53] <rrajbe> Hi, How can i restart a daemon when it is killed, so that that daemon always works
[16:53] <rrajbe> ?
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> bloouup, what you want cannot be done easily, you need programming skills and change the source, i guess
[16:53] <snoop> hi! how i enable the 3D of the ubuntu in a virtualbox, i already install the extended pack but no luck
[16:54] <rex> bloouup: why dont you try to disable all the other session.
[16:54] <bloouup> That's what I have right now and it works but it's not as professional as I'd like it to be
[16:54] <chung-chyu> HI everybody
[16:55] <chung-chyu> 会中文的么？
[16:55] <raven> i just noticed that gimp operations only run on one core - who knows about that?
[16:55] <chung-chyu> go to bed
[16:55] <yilmaz> unity made this system a bit slow, can I revert back to gnome interface (non gnomeshell)
[16:55] <zykotick9> !notunity | yilmaz
[16:56] <yilmaz> zykotick9, non gnomeshell gnome uı if possible
[16:56] <zykotick9> yilmaz: gnome-panel...
[16:56] <yilmaz> zykotick9, I would assume gnomeshell to be slow as well
[16:56] <snoop> i read somewhere that there is a fallback for the gnome
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> snoop: you can install gnome-panel and use that
[16:57]  * zykotick9 wonders if people read teh entire !notunity factoid, or stopped after the gnome-shell mention?
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: pretty much
[16:57] <Katbuntu> Hi
[16:58] <snoop> and the GNOME-session-fallback its the same?
[16:59]  * zykotick9 would recommend switching to a more sane DE like xfce over gnome these days.  personally, i just dropped DEs altogether, and use only a WM now.
[16:59] <bloouup> pff, who even needs a wm? Just use tmux
[16:59] <bloouup> or screen
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> snoop: xfce has the gnome2 smell and can run all your gnome apps without issue
[17:00] <zykotick9> bloouup: ;) screen is my "main" windows manager
[17:08] <vagn_karlsson> Hi. I try to use the default backup program to back up some folders to an external harddisk and the program says there's not enough space but there should be from what I gather. Some pointers?
[17:10] <sabel> ive got ubuntu to work! i have i one more issue...i am running on a desktop and..it uses a wireless dongle...how do i get the drivers..or..the linux ones at that..installed on my pc? and where do i find them..?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> sabel: what wifi chip?
[17:11] <elena-IK> is there a easy way to recursively find and delete empty dirs?
[17:11] <sabel> Netgear WNDA4100
[17:12] <HTC-DZ> guys/gals, i was downloading openarena from the ubuntu software centre. anyways, 160MB in my pc froz coz i was running amarok and some poker game. so had to restart my pc. did i just lose the 160MB of openarena i downloaded? is their anyway to resume downloads? i dont wanna click install in case it restarts the download completely.
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> sabel: thats the adapter, not the chip
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> sabel: run:   sudo lshw -C network     do you see a 'Product:' line for the wifi?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> HTC-DZ: depends if some of the packages of the total 160Mb finished
[17:14] <Nvveen> I have a seperate partition (ext4) on which I'm trying to execute program, but it keeps saying permission denied. The problem here though, is that the correct user and group is set, and all permission bits are right. Does anyone know why tihs is happening?
[17:14] <sabel> i literally just got ubuntu working, how to i open a terminal
[17:15] <ruan> ctrl alt T, if they haven't changed the hotkeys
[17:15] <bobweaver> sabel,  press ctrl+alt+t
[17:15] <meiwes> #python
[17:15] <HTC-DZ> action, im not sure. im new to linux. its my first week using it full time. if some packages were complete would that mean it would just resume the download?
[17:15] <bobweaver> sabel,  or open dash and type in gnome-terminal
[17:15] <wtfnotacceptable> Just installed most recent updates to 12.10 on my thinkpad X201, it demanded I reboot. After rebooting it hangs immediately after BIOS and just has a cursor pulsing on the screen.
[17:16] <bobweaver> wtfnotacceptable,  no grub or nothing ?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> HTC-DZ: the complete ones will not be redownloaded, the partial ones will be redownloaded
[17:16] <sabel> Says HOLY COW that gave alot of information. but it didnt list the wifi adapter..
[17:16] <zykotick9> Nvveen: type "mount" in a terminal, does the partition in question have a noexec in it's options?
[17:16] <wtfnotacceptable> bobweaver: thinkpad gives me a ctrl+s to get to the boot menu options and nothing else, as soon as that bios screen is gone nothing else appears but the cursor
[17:17] <HTC-DZ> and once the partial ones are downloaded with the newly downloaded ones, they will "join" up with the ones downloaded on the first try and install itself fully. correct?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> HTC-DZ: indeed
[17:17] <ololo> http://i50.tinypic.com/346q5mx.jpg lol
[17:18] <bobweaver> sabel, try          lspci -nn | grep 0280
[17:18] <wtfnotacceptable> bobweaver: so phoenix bios for around two seconds, then intel boot agent for around two seconds, then a cursor and no response
[17:18] <Nvveen> zykotick9, no, but adding exec fixed it, although tihs wasn't needed ever before (which is why I'm confused as to why it's needed now :S)
[17:18] <snoop> im installing the xubuntu-desktop.. lets see if it get a little bit faster
[17:18] <HTC-DZ> thanks action. if there was a reward system on this thing id give you a level up lol
[17:18] <wtfnotacceptable> Even though 12.10 isn't LTS I would presume the updates, especially ones to core services requiring a reboot, would be tested on common machines like a popular thinkpad
[17:19] <bobweaver> wtfnotacceptable,  boot live cd and mount ubuntu partition and re-install grub to it. then reboot
[17:19] <sabel> i typed it and nothing did you mean with a sudo..?
[17:19] <bobweaver> sabel,  try this      sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit && lspci -vnn | pastebinit
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> HTC-DZ: i have buckets of karma on launchpad :)
[17:20] <bobweaver> sabel,  then give us link plz
[17:20] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  yeah you do ;)
[17:20] <sabel> i cant really download anything considering i dont have any internet bob :)
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> sabel: you use your login pass for sudo, you get no feedback but the password is being accepted
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: trying to catch martin now, bity of a game really
[17:21] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  IDK if you can do it that Mr Pitt is awesome and esp because he is now doing all tests ....
[17:21] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  but best of luck to you .
[17:21] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  you can so it
[17:21] <F0rg0tten> In ubuntu, if you install a package, end up removing it and deleting the configs, then re-installing, it doesn't put the configs back, how can reinstall to get those configs?
[17:21] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  you can do it *
[17:21] <usr13> sabel: You will need wired connection.
[17:21] <wtfnotacceptable> bobweaver, ok that sounds like a logical, if difficult, option. I will have a go at it, it's been ages since I've done anything with grub.
[17:22] <HTC-DZ> one other q, is it possible to run ubuntu everyday without knowing a single command and doing everyday tasks via the gui?
[17:22] <ikonia> HTC-DZ: yes
[17:22] <sabel> there is no other way to get my drivers other than have a wired connection..?
[17:22] <bobweaver> wtfnotacceptable,  I will get you a link
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> HTC-DZ: it can be, yes but there may be times when you need terminal
[17:22] <Slart> F0rg0tten: there is a command called dpkg-reconfigure , it might be able to help
[17:22] <yilmaz> zykotick9, thank you
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> HTC-DZ: you can also automate tasks which GUI can only dream of. Bash is very flexible
[17:22] <sabel> i cant find them elswhere and then put them on a USB?
[17:22] <usr13> sabel: It is going to be quite difficult to develope your new Ubuntu system without an internet connection.
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> sabel: depends on the chip
[17:23] <usr13> sabel: Some of those USB adapters are not fully supported.  If you have a PCI card, it might work.  You might try a different WiFi adapter. (But a wired connection will do for now.)
[17:23] <HTC-DZ> thanks ikonia and action. like i said, this my first week using ubuntu full time. 12.04 LTS was much better upgrade i feel than windows 8. williing to learn as much as i can. :)
[17:23] <bobweaver> wtfnotacceptable,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1851164
[17:24] <wtfnotacceptable> bobweaver, thank you!
[17:24] <Janos> hey there, question, i just got a bluetooth keyboard, i paired with my ubuntu with the bluetooth applet no problem. But i can´t login with it, i have to login with another keybord, connect the bluetooth keyboard and then i can use it
[17:24] <usr13> sabel: You can't plug an ethernet cable into your router?
[17:24] <bobweaver> wtfnotacceptable,  np follow post one two and five
[17:24] <sabel> A wired connection is sort of out of the question. the router is in an area faaaaaaar away. How do i figure out what chip i have?
[17:24] <usr13> sabel: lspci
[17:24] <Janos> so how can i tell bluetoothd to connect the keybord automatically on startup ?
[17:24] <snoop> mmmm finish installing xubuntu.. reboot and get the same unity desktop what i did wrong?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> sabel: run:  sudo lshw -C network     if its not listed, run:  lsusb   and you can search for the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[17:25] <sabel> just type lspci into my terminal..?
[17:25] <usr13> Janos: It should do it on it's own.
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> sabel: that too
[17:25] <ikonia> snoop: you installed ubuntu, not xubuntu
[17:25] <bobweaver> snoop,  are you picking xfce from lightdm (login menu )
[17:25] <mac_12> hello world
[17:25] <F0rg0tten> Slart: good idea, but now I am just getting sh: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory
[17:25] <snoop> in the menu get the same options nothing change..
[17:26] <usr13> snoop: If you want to install xfce, you can.   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[17:26] <snoop> let me see again
[17:26] <snoop> i did that
[17:26] <snoop> usr13
[17:26] <bobweaver> F0rg0tten,  you know how to set -x in script for debuging ?
[17:26] <sabel> when i ran lsusb it came up with a 9012 Netgear, inc which is the manufactur of my adapter
[17:26] <usr13> snoop: So, log out and back in, or reboot.
[17:26] <F0rg0tten> derp, nvm, that fixed it, it had just deleted the directory I was in
[17:26] <Slart> F0rg0tten: hmm.. have you tried uninstalling the package with the --purge option and then reinstalling again?
[17:26] <bobweaver> sabel,  what is the number the 8 digit number nest to it
[17:27] <sabel> Rather a 0846:9012 sorryt
[17:27] <usr13> sabel: iwconfig    #What does that say?
[17:27] <F0rg0tten> Slart: yes, but it didn't replace the config files, when I left the directory then reinstalled and ran the command you suggested, it replaced the config files, thanks
[17:27] <usr13> sabel: Does it say, "no wireless extensions"?
[17:27] <Janos> usr13, mm weird, it´s not working, if i log in via ssh and do sudo bluez-test-input connect <MAC> then i can login with my bluetooth keyboard
[17:27] <sabel> 0846:9012 Netgear, Inc
[17:27] <Slart> F0rg0tten: ah.. nice.. you're welcome
[17:27] <bobweaver> sabel,  http://www.googlubuntu.com/results/?cx=006238239194895611142%3Au-ocqbntw_o&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=0846%3A9012&as_qdr=all&sa=Google+Search&lang=en
[17:27] <yilmaz> what's the proper way to change system language in 12.04?
[17:27] <yilmaz> system settings/language settings?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> sabel: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1942689.html   seems to need ndiswrapper
[17:28] <bobweaver> yilmaz,  that is one great way
[17:28] <yilmaz> bobweaver, any others?
[17:28] <usr13> Janos: Hummm.... I don't know.  Every wireless keyboard I've used just worked.  I suppose you can put those commands in the /etc/rc.local file.
[17:29] <bobweaver> yilmaz,  you could change profile and what not under ~/.local  but that is a pain in the rear
[17:29] <yilmaz> system settings/lang settings did not appear to work. that's why I am asking
[17:29] <usr13> Janos: (above   "exit 0"  )
[17:30] <ololo> http://i.imgur.com/0M5MT.jpg
[17:30] <sabel> so reading those posts made me feel even less in control of my situation...
[17:30] <jrib> yilmaz: did you pastebin that info?
[17:30] <bobweaver> yilmaz,  type into terminal       gnome-language-selector    is that the same thing ?
[17:30] <Janos> usr13, yeah but i don´t think that would work, you see i have to actually press my keyboard power button for that command to work, otherwise it just says host is down
[17:31] <snoop> usr13: tnks.. its done now xubuntu 12.10 runs much better.. on my mac =D
[17:31] <Janos> that´s weird
[17:31] <sabel> I'm very new to this..it seems as though they solved my problem but i understand none of the code.
[17:31] <Janos> maybe i have to tell the keybord to pair automatically with the ubuntu instead
[17:31] <usr13> sabel: And so that WiFi device is what we would call "not fully supported".  You will need to install ndiswrapper.  Sure would be a LOT easier if you could get this PC plugged into an internet connection.  Can you share the internet from the PC you are on now.  Plug a crossover cable into the ethernet ports of the PC you are on and the other end into the new Ubuntu PC....?
[17:31] <Slart> !ops | ololo
[17:32] <Janos> would that make sense at all ? new to bluetooth here :P
[17:32] <sabel> that can happen, im not sure how to set it up past plugging in the wire though
[17:32] <usr13> sabel: What OS is on the PC you are using now?
[17:33] <yilmaz> jrib, which info I am sorry
[17:33] <sabel> XP
[17:33] <yilmaz> bobweaver, correct that's the thing
[17:33] <jrib> yilmaz: while you're pastebinning, include: /etc/default/locale, /etc/environment and ~/.pam_environment, the output of "env" and "locale"
[17:33] <usr13> sabel: http://ws/terry/ics-xp-DHCP.txt
[17:34] <usr13> sabel: Sorry, wrong link....
[17:34] <yilmaz> jrib, all right just a sec
[17:34] <sabel> no worries
[17:34] <usr13> sabel: http://trryhend.startlogic.com/terry/ics-xp-DHCP.txt
[17:35] <TDJACR> One of my raid partitions was re-created, with a different UUID. I edited mdadm.conf with the new details, and grub.cfg, but grub still looks for the old mduuid path. Is there a file I'm neglecting to update?
[17:35] <MestreLion> I have 16BG installed, onboard video is disabled, but my system properties is only showing 15.7GiB, is this normal? Shouldn't it show 16GiB ?
[17:36] <Slart> TDJACR: if you updated grub.cfg you might have to run some kind of grup-update script
[17:36] <Azzle-Dazzle> Is it possible to configure remmina remote desktop so that I can access it through my mobile ?
[17:36] <Slart> MestreLion: it's probably 16*1000*1000*1000 and your computer reports each GB as 1024*1024*1024
[17:36] <MestreLion> Azzle-Dazzle: if you mobile has any RDP or VNC client, yes
[17:37] <usr13> sabel: And after you get it hooked up, you should first do: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:37] <TDJACR> Slart: What would that actually change?
[17:37] <zykotick9> Slart: actually, if you change grub.cfg and then run update-grub, your changes will disappear...
[17:37] <Slart> MestreLion: could be something else as well.. but that's one of the most common reasons for harddrive/memory sizes not adding up
[17:37] <TDJACR> zykotick9: Yeah, that's what I was thinking
[17:37] <Azzle-Dazzle> MestreLion - As in app ? Im an Android user which is basically linux on a mobile so i should imagine its possible :)
[17:37] <MestreLion> Slart: GiB means 1024... it shows 4GiB in other computers
[17:38] <Slart> TDJACR: I'm not sure any more.. they've messed with grub since I last checked into stuff.. it was just an idea worth checking
[17:38] <MestreLion> Azzle-Dazzle: remmina is a client, not a server. you must install a server in Ubuntu, then use a client in your android
[17:39] <zykotick9> MestreLion: see the output of both "free" and "free -m" i bet "free" shows 16 right?
[17:39] <TDJACR> Hmm. This isn't good =/
[17:39] <usr13> sabel: Also see:   http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306126
[17:39] <crimsonmane> actually remmina -can- act as a server, but you manually have to set up a receive.
[17:39] <yilmaz> jrib, http://pastebin.com/ZQ7TzQHu
[17:39] <Azzle-Dazzle> arrrr now it makes sense :) Thanks, I have Remmina installed so any client should be able to connect to it.
[17:39] <sabel> the internet connection is working! yay
[17:39] <Azzle-Dazzle> ill dig around for a decent client now
[17:39] <sabel> step one lol
[17:39] <usr13> sabel: Ok good.
[17:39] <Slart> MestreLion: I have 8 Gb installed and it shows 7.7 for me, not sure why there is a difference
[17:39] <MestreLion> zykotick9: 16434708 and  16049 respectively
[17:40] <usr13> sabel: You should first do: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:40] <snoop> tnx alot everyone c ya later...
[17:40] <zykotick9> MestreLion: all good then ;)
[17:40] <yilmaz> jrib, I only used gnome-language-selector and edited /etc/default/locale when the first did not appear to work
[17:40] <Tex_Nick> sable : just to make sure you understand ... you need a crossover cable ... not a standard cable :)
[17:40] <fishcooker> i've tried install blueman
[17:40] <crimsonmane> usr13: instead of a semi colon, && should be used. that way, the second command is only executed if the first one is successful.
[17:40] <jrib> yilmaz: interesting, I wonder where LANGUAGE is getting set to its value you see in the output of locale
[17:40] <fishcooker> but don't work MonkeyDust
[17:40] <MestreLion> zykotick9: not quite... free -g shows 15, not 16
[17:41] <zykotick9> MestreLion: that's normal...
[17:41] <usr13> sabel: I have to go now... work to do... Catch you later, (there are plenty of others in here that can answer any further questions you may have).  Good luck with your new Ubuntu system.
[17:41] <sabel> thank you!
[17:41] <yilmaz> jrib, I believe gnome-language-selector does that
[17:41] <usr13> crimsonmane: Noted... Thanks for correction.
[17:41] <fishcooker> $ bluetoothd -u
[17:41] <searching> autoremove libdrm-intel1 not working because plymount dependence how to fix?
[17:41] <jrib> yilmaz: so the situation now is that you have translations in turkish?
[17:42] <yilmaz> jrib, in language tab, several languages are active while rest is inactive
[17:42] <fishcooker> how to enable bluetooth support
[17:42] <fishcooker> ?
[17:42] <MestreLion> zykotick9: how come? 16434708KiB = 15.7GiB, not 16
[17:42] <yilmaz> yes, main menu isin Turkish, as well as error messages etc
[17:43] <crimsonmane> MestreLion: a portion of the drive is not accessible to you because that portion is needed to store filenames and locations and tables and such.
[17:43] <MestreLion> crimsonmane: but i'm talking about installed RAM
[17:43] <zykotick9> MestreLion: and 15.7GiB is 15 right?  so using -g shows 15...  your system is reporting your memory properly...
[17:43] <crimsonmane> MestreLion: same story with ram.
[17:43] <jrib> yilmaz: and if you open up gedit in your terminal for example, it's also turkish?
[17:43] <DeltaKilo> question: i'm building a Ubuntu server and have installed the XFCE GUI for it for the sake of my brain without coffee
[17:43] <DeltaKilo> how do I kick it off from the commandline?
[17:43] <yilmaz> jrib, I do not remember if this was a clean 12.04 install or an upgrade from 10.04, which may be an upgrade from 8.04 :)
[17:44] <wtfnotacceptable> bobweaver, ok after update/no reboot, I followed that thread and reinstalled grub, now it just boots into a "grub>" command line and it's not clear what to do next, the main bit is an encrypted volume btw (won't make that mistake again I think, this is just ridiculous for a standard update to have killed my machine, if I was on the road without access to my desktop I'd just be simply screwed).
[17:44] <TDJACR> Where else would that path be stored?
[17:44] <wakejagr_> i'm trying to set xterm to always open with the option metaSendsEscape.  do i need to edit my ~/.Xdefaults file or my ~/.Xresources file?  .Xdefaults seems to be depreciated, but I have yet to find an ubuntu specific statement to use .Xresources instead
[17:45] <steeve> am I okay to ask for tech help here?
[17:45] <jrib> wakejagr_: use ~/.Xresources
[17:45] <DeltaKilo> steeve, I'd tell you, but I'm still waiting for an answer for my (dumb) tech help question
[17:45] <zykotick9> wakejagr_: you need to use ~/.Xdefaults-YOURHOSTNAMEHERE for it to work
[17:45] <sabel_> Hurray! i am now talking to you from my Ubuntu PC!
[17:45] <steeve> DeltaKilo My question's dumber, try me.
[17:47] <sabel_> Can anyone help me find the drivers for my wireless adapter? im currently connected Via Ethernet cord.
[17:47] <crimsonmane> MestreLion: part of ram is used to remember what's in the rest of ram, as an easy way to explain it
[17:47] <MestreLion> crimsonmane: so is there a way to see the *installed* ram instead of the available ?
[17:47] <yilmaz> jrib, any luck?
[17:47] <zykotick9> MestreLion: "cat /proc/meminfo"
[17:47] <jrib> yilmaz: and if you open up gedit in your terminal for example, it's also turkish?
[17:48] <yilmaz> jrib, yes
[17:48] <Guest52082> Is there a program to find out what codec a video needs?
[17:48] <RickZilla> sabel_: adapter, or card?
[17:48] <sabel_> its an adapter
[17:48] <tmmunq> most of the video players will tell you the video/audio format, even if they dont know how to play it
[17:49] <wakejagr> jrib, zykotick9: thanks for the help.  editing ~/.Xresources and reloading with xrdb did the trick for me
[17:49] <RickZilla> sabel_:Hmm, I would think those are harder to find
[17:49] <fishcooker> is there any bluetooth aplet on ubuntu desktop
[17:49] <jrib> yilmaz: and if you do "LANGUAGE=en_US:en gedit", it opens in english?  This is the first time I see this format for the value of LANGUAGE, so I am checking what it means and how it may be set
[17:49] <MestreLion> thanks zykotick9... it shows 16434708 kB, which is correct. so maybe both free and system properties are mis-converting kB to KiB ?
[17:49] <sabel_> right and i have no idea where or how to look.
[17:49] <DeltaKilo> steeve: well, I'm running ubuntu server 12.10.
[17:49] <yilmaz> jrib, yes it does
[17:49] <RickZilla> Doesn't vlc player come with all the codecs it needs?
[17:49] <DeltaKilo> I've installed XFCE for ease of management for my less command-liney guys
[17:49] <Guest52082> tmmunq, I am trying to play a video with VLC but it doesn't play it. VLC exits right away.
[17:50] <DeltaKilo> since this is sitting on a VSphere VM
[17:50] <wtfnotacceptable> Can anyone help me? Thinkpad x201, installed 12.10 update demanding reboot, rebooted and nothing after bios, followed advice of guy here and reinstalled grub, now it boots to a grub command line with crazy options. Volume is encrypted from Ubuntu 12.10 wizard asking if you wanted an encrypted drive.
[17:50] <DeltaKilo> I want to be able to manage the network settings from within XFCE, but it doesn't show up under the network list.
[17:50] <steeve> Basically, mouse clicks only register sporadically for me. Sometimes they don't register at all, sometimes they get passed to the window behind the one I'm clicking on, sometimes they'll only work within a specific window/region (ie the sidebar, or a window.) Google is no help, and nor is trying other distros (I've tried 12.04, 12.10, and xubuntu 12.04 and no luck.
[17:50] <OerHeks> RickZilla, yes,  you only need to the run css script to play dvd
[17:50] <DeltaKilo> so, i'm not sure how the hell to make XFCE see the existing network connection
[17:51] <wtfnotacceptable> I've no idea what to do next, the link I got http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1851164, tells me to update grub, but I am not at bash, I am at a grub command line and it's not really responding to bash commands
[17:51] <OerHeks> RickZilla, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[17:51] <DeltaKilo> anyone?
[17:52] <tmmunq> might be an error in the video. try it from the terminal, see if vlc has any errors. try another video player, something based on mplayer or xine, for this file and try a couple more files in vlc
[17:52] <sciotric> o hai folks
[17:52]  * DeltaKilo listens to crickets
[17:52] <ClientAlive> is there a way to change how my mouse pointer reacts when I hold down the left click button to highlight something? I saw this guy in a youtube video and when he highlights something the arrow turns into a ring. I'm on ubuntu 12.04 but with gnome 3.
[17:52] <sciotric> can any one tell how to run counter strie on this ubutntu'
[17:53] <bazhang> sciotric, use wine. check the appdb
[17:53] <bazhang> !appdb | sciotric
[17:53] <jrib> yilmaz: you should just start grepping .* in your home for en_US:tr:en :)
[17:53] <RickZilla> I'm assuming you already installed the non-"
[17:53] <sciotric> i have installed it through wine
[17:53] <RickZilla> non-Canonical software in the sources?
[17:53] <bazhang> sciotric, /join #winehq for help with that
[17:53] <sciotric> and even it's shortcut has appeared
[17:54] <bazhang> sciotric, ask in the wine channel
[17:54] <media-centre> any ideas on how to get a firewire card working
[17:54] <sciotric> but having problem to run this
[17:54] <yilmaz> jrib, testing :)
[17:54] <bazhang> sciotric, check the appdb as I said earlier
[17:54] <sciotric> appdb stands for\
[17:54] <sciotric> ?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> sciotric: search for it online, you'll see
[17:55] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org    <--------- sciotric
[17:55] <bj0rn2> When I get root auth dialog from gnome shell starting a program like synaptic, it evaluates the password before I press ok and before I'm finished typing.. anyone seen this behaviour?
[17:55] <DeltaKilo> nm, i figured it out
[17:56] <sciotric> thanks
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> sciotric: even the dumbest search would bring that up...
[17:56] <DeltaKilo> yay
[17:56] <DeltaKilo> it's alive...ALIVE...
[17:56] <DeltaKilo> also, i really like XFCE.
[17:56] <yilmaz> jrib, grep "en_US\:tr\:en" .* -r is running w/o much output for yet
[17:56] <sciotric> i am noob
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> sciotric: what? to searching the web?
[17:57] <qw[russiaNoName]> hello all
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> schrodinger: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=appdb
[17:58] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, he's gone
[17:58] <qw[russiaNoName]> help me please i install now Linux and i would like update or upgrade my system
[17:58] <yilmaz> qw[russiaNoName], sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: I swear only select people are allowed to search the web
[17:59] <bazhang> qw[russiaNoName], what version of ubuntu, how installed
[17:59] <sabel_> so..every time i try to install wine i get "unable to locate pakage" ive run apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa and updated now i try to sudo apt-get install wine1.4 it cant find it..?
[17:59] <bazhang> wildc4rd, dist-upgrade does NOT change versions
[17:59] <bazhang> yilmaz, ^
[17:59] <bazhang> sorry wildc4rd
[18:00] <bazhang> !addppa | sabel_
[18:01] <bazhang> sabel_, looks like you were using the wrong command. also update sources.list once you have added it
[18:01] <Ace> !nvidia
[18:01] <yilmaz> bazhang, did not know that after years of debian and ubuntu user experience
[18:01] <yilmaz> :)
[18:01] <qw[russiaNoName]> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/9Uc8YmMb
[18:01] <qwebirc14433> hi, during upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 it says "no space left on device".  It turns out /boot is full.  I check the /boot directory and it lists quite some files, can I delete the old files?
[18:01] <bazhang> qw[russiaNoName], what version of ubuntu; how installed
[18:01] <jrib> qwebirc14433: uninstall old kernels
[18:02] <wtfnotacceptable> so a simple "update" to 12.10 kills my whole system
[18:02] <qw[russiaNoName]> 10.10
[18:02] <DeltaKilo> okay, maybe I didn't figure this out...
[18:02] <qw[russiaNoName]> install from dvd disk
[18:02] <wtfnotacceptable> which is all intel processor, intel graphics etc.
[18:02] <bazhang> qw[russiaNoName], thats end of life
[18:02] <DeltaKilo> Ubuntu Server 12.10, running XFCE Gui. How do I manage my network settings from the GUI?
[18:02] <wtfnotacceptable> nothing special, but a required update and reboot kills the whole thing
[18:02] <wtfnotacceptable> thanks
[18:02] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | qw[russiaNoName]
[18:02] <sabel_> TBH Im TOTALLY new to this whole thing. im trying to follow a guide written online to run a game.. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1946188
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: why thanks?
[18:03] <DeltaKilo> anyone?
[18:03] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, because someone didn't test their update and now it's lost my data?
[18:03] <XBOCT> DeltaKilo: if it's a server why do you need XFCE/GUI on it? just install webmin and manage it through a web browser on a remote machine
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> DeltaKilo: if you add a GUI to the server install, it becomes a desktop OS
[18:03] <Azzle-Dazzle> Anyone know how I can find my ipv4 address
[18:03] <XBOCT> Azzle-Dazzle: ifconfig
[18:03] <koen_> does polkit prevent opening a serial line (ttyS0), even when the user is part of the groups 'dialout', 'sudo' and 'adm'?
[18:03] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, all my important stuff is on ubuntu one, but bookmarks and some random docs and images were on my main drive
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: no, as you wil have backups if your data is important, right?
[18:03] <qw[russiaNoName]> bazhang: ) but i ask how update or upgrade my OS
[18:03] <bazhang> qw[russiaNoName], and I gave you a link. please read it
[18:03] <Azzle-Dazzle> thanks, Thats too similar to the ipconfig in windows ;)
[18:03] <DeltaKilo> XBOCT: well, I'm not great at CLI, so I installed the GUI to try and set it up for non-DHCP, etc.
[18:04] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, yeah, but why should there be updates so frequently to 12.10, and why did this one kill my whole install
[18:04] <DeltaKilo> :/
[18:04] <DeltaKilo> I installed the web management thingy, I think, though
[18:04] <bazhang> DeltaKilo, normally via network-manager
[18:04] <XBOCT> DeltaKilo: "webmin" is amazing and it is really easy to use
[18:04] <qw[russiaNoName]> bazhang: i reed this
[18:04] <bazhang> !webmin | XBOCT
[18:04] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, it's just not acceptable for a simple update to kill the capacity of a machine to reboot when I have specifically selected this machine and paid extra for linux compatibility, it's all intel, there are no proprietary drivers etc
[18:04] <yilmaz> jrib, absolutely no files
[18:04] <DeltaKilo> XBOCT: well, how do I get it running?
[18:05] <DeltaKilo> as of right now it does not seem to be.
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: because its an intermediate release so you'll get more updates. The beta releases get updates every few hours
[18:05] <XBOCT> DeltaKilo: just install webmin using the package manager
[18:05] <XBOCT> DeltaKilo: after it is installed you need to browse over to that computer; if you're doing it locally then just go to https://localhost:10000
[18:05] <bazhang> XBOCT, webmin is not supported. please dont recommend it here
[18:05] <zelozelos> when i start up i get a "sorry, ubuntu 12.10 has experienced an internal error the path is usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume
[18:05] <DeltaKilo> XBOCT: ahhh, kk, i'll try that
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: have you reported any bugs?
[18:05] <XBOCT> bazhang: didn't know
[18:05] <bazhang> !ebox | XBOCT
[18:06] <yilmaz> jrib, how is /etc/environment populated? from /etc/default/locale?
[18:06] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, yeah but if the Dash menu taskes 5 seconds to load on a multi-gigahertz machine in 12.04, I installed 12.10 on the laptop in the hopes of the dash being actually fast
[18:06] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, it just happened
[18:06] <zelozelos> it says its a suspend/resume failure but i didnt resume or suspend, it was a full startup
[18:06] <DeltaKilo> XBOCT: okay there we go. you mind if I bug you in PM? less clutter/easier to follow
[18:06] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, but it's still not clear exactly what went wrong as it's such a major f-up that I can't even get to the command line and dmesg etc
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: so far you haven't actually explained what happens when you boot. You've just moaned which helps nobody. Most of all you.
[18:07] <zelozelos> how do i fix it? i found a few posts on bugs but idunno what to do
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: if you make a fresh ubuntu user, is it the same there>?
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: you can press CTRL+ALT+T and run a terminal
[18:07] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, nothing happened when I booted, just a cursor after bios, then bobweaver gave me a link to a series of instructions to reinstall grub, I now have a grub prompt
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: try saying THAT rather than whinging.
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: have you tried the boot option:  nomodeset
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: if you hold SHIFT at boot you should see grub
[18:08] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I did, but there was not help forthcoming.
[18:08] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I am at grub, but it's not clear what to do next
[18:09] <wtfnotacceptable> i.e. "grub>" is what I get after boot
[18:09] <wtfnotacceptable> but it's not bash, I can't even use fdisk
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: press E on the kernel to (e)dit the line, delete the words 'quiet splash' and in it's place add 'nomodeset'  press ENTER to boot
[18:09] <tmmunq> yeah, that means theres something wrong with your grub.cfg
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: oh then it sounds like the MBR is a bit freaky
[18:09] <tmmunq> wrong root, initrd, something like that
[18:09] <zelozelos> i would just install grub, like it says ;)
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video   may help
[18:10] <Sach> what's the difference between installing updates though Update Manager and running sudo apt-get update in Termina?
[18:10] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I don't get a boot menu at all, it was nothing till I booted into a live usb and reinstalled grub. Ok I will check your link
[18:10] <zelozelos> nothing
[18:10] <OerHeks> Sach, none.
[18:10] <dr_willis> Sach:  not much.
[18:10] <dr_willis> ;)
[18:10] <sabel> ok...so..im getting this error when i try to install wine
[18:10] <sabel> sabel@Sabel:~$ apt-get install wine1.4 E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[18:10] <dr_willis> Sach:  sudo apt-get update    just Updates the list of packages to know what updates exist..  you actually Install them via 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[18:11] <dr_willis> sabel:  you run ONE package manager tool at a time.
[18:11] <dr_willis> sabel:  and you need 'sudo' befor that command
[18:11] <zelozelos> sabel, log out n back in, dont save the session
[18:11] <Sach> dr_willis: so I should run 'sudo apt-get upgrade' frequently?
[18:11] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, no don't update or upgrade frequency
[18:12] <zelozelos> or srry, sudo what dr said, sudo
[18:12] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, because it can kill your whole system
[18:12] <Virunga> Hi guys, i'd like to find every file without extension, could you help me, please? This is what i did find . -name '.*\.[^/]+$' -o # ... do something but it didn't work
[18:12] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, because the updates and upgrades are not tested properly
[18:12] <sabel> ok..so..i ran it again and got this lol..
[18:12] <sabel> sabel@Sabel:~$ apt-get install wine1.4 E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[18:12] <Sach> wtfnotacceptable: so how do I know what and when to update?
[18:12] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, I
[18:13] <sabel> oops misspaste
[18:13] <sabel> wine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-amd64 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3)            Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3)            Recommends: ttf-droid but it is not installable            Recommends: ttf-mscorefonts-installer but it is not installable            Recommends: ttf-umefont but it is not installable            Recommends: ttf-unfonts-core but it is not installable            Recommends: winbind but it is not go
[18:13] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, I'd recommend using only LTS if you value your time, and updating only once a week
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: you can boot liveCD, that is OS independant. You could even have zero OSes installed and boot live CD
[18:13] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, Canonical and others think almost daily updates are acceptable, they are not, and they don't test those updates
[18:13] <Sach> wtfnotacceptable: can I assume that all update on LTS are safe?
[18:14] <bazhang> wtfnotacceptable, thats not correct
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: the LTS releases have thorough testing. I suggest you use Precise if you like rock solidness
[18:14] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, on LTS they are more likely to be safe
[18:14] <bazhang> wtfnotacceptable, please dont spread misinformation
[18:14] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, I've never had one go wrong on LTS
[18:14] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, but I just had one go catastrophically wrong on 12.10
[18:14] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, so I'd recommend LTS for stability
[18:14] <wtfnotacceptable> at least
[18:15] <wtfnotacceptable> bazhang, tell that misinformation to my machine that won't boot
[18:15] <qw[russiaNoName]> help me please install install_flash_player_11_linux_i386.tar.gz
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: thats because the testing in LTYS is a lot more, its made to be more solid
[18:15] <bazhang> wtfnotacceptable, your single instance does not define reality.
[18:16] <wtfnotacceptable> bazhang, my machine has been fine for ages and I haven't installed anything system level, only user level, for ages. It's all open source, no binary drivers. I just installed an Ubuntu update which required a reboot and now it won't boot
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: have you tested your RAM using memtest on the liveCD? have yuo tested your HDD using manufacturers tools?
[18:16] <DeltaKilo> note to self: when creating VM, make sure you set said VM's VLAn to the correct one
[18:16] <mindbreaker> in skype, there is a method to login with a ms account .. so i also want to have my msn contacts in skype .. in skype for windows, it works, but not on ubuntu .. is there a method to get all my msn contacts, too?
[18:16] <bazhang> qw[russiaNoName], 10.10 is end of life. please upgrade to a supported system
[18:16] <sabel> ..I tried to install wine 1.5 but it says it has unmet dependancies..how do i get the dependancie?
[18:16] <DeltaKilo> derp.
[18:16] <qw[russiaNoName]> bazhang: now upgrade
[18:16] <bazhang> qw[russiaNoName], to what version
[18:17] <DeltaKilo> even though that doesn't solve anything
[18:17] <qw[russiaNoName]> i dont have
[18:17] <bazhang> qw[russiaNoName], you said you are now upgrading; to what version
[18:17] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I won't rule out a HDD error, but the only think that's changed on the machine in over two weeks is the system update I installed two minutes before it asked me to reboot and it didn't reboot
[18:17] <qw[russiaNoName]> in konsole i am write sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[18:18] <a5m0> are these drivers different than the xorg-edgers? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/ I'm looking for the best drivers so i can do some better gaming :/
[18:18] <Virunga> i'd like to find every file without extension, could you help me, please? This is what i did $> find . -name '.*\.[^/]+$' -o -type f ... # ... do something but it didn't work
[18:18] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, that's why I haven't filed a bug report yet either, I am trying to make sure it's Ubuntu and not my HDD, but all the evidence is pointing at Ubuntu at the moment
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: its worth exploring
[18:18] <bazhang> qw[russiaNoName], thats not how to do it. please read the link I gave you carefully
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: grab the ultimate boot cd, they have drive testers from the main HDD manufacturers
[18:19] <Slart> Virunga: can you define what you mean by "without extension" ? does it have to be 3 characters after a dot? I use blabla.shader   for shader code.. would .shader be an extension?
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Virunga: i'd ask in #bash
[18:20] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, well I am at grub, I just have to re-learn the whole of grub (fun!)
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: i gave a link how to chroot from live CD and reinstate grub that way
[18:20] <Pici> Virunga: -name does file globbing, not regex. Use -regex instead.
[18:21] <pomeisl> historia est magistra vitae
[18:21] <pomeisl> !hu
[18:21] <Virunga> Pici: i'll do it, thanks
[18:21] <DeltaKilo> blah
[18:21] <Virunga> Slart: without extension i mean it isn't divided in two parts, with the right part without dots, by a dot.
[18:21] <Virunga> ActionParsnip: maybe 'll do it, thanks.
[18:22] <Slart> Virunga: hmm.. give me a minute to think about this.. I'll get back to you
[18:22] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I've already reinstalled grub in a similar way from another link, I am now able to boot into a grub command line now but I have to figure out what to do next
[18:22] <Virunga> Slart: ok.
[18:22] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, given the other partition is encrypted (last time I make that mistake)
[18:22] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, but even if it wasn't it's not clear what to do next
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: yeah encrypted is all kinds of headache imho
[18:23] <levi> hi all
[18:23] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I'd rather have not had to reboot and kill my machine
[18:23] <zee> Hello, I am experiencing slight issues with the Firefox version bundled with ubuntu
[18:23] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I'd rather they tested their updates on at least a subset of machines
[18:23] <bazhang> zee such as what
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: they do
[18:24] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, can't be too many, this is all intel all open source, it's not like it needs anything special (works perfectly out of the box from a usb install)
[18:24] <zee> Well, I'm on this site (bad-dragon.com) trying to purchase products of theirs
[18:24] <zee> but I am experiencing issues adding products to cart
[18:24] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, so if it doesn't require anything custom and it's now broken from an update, I say, bad update
[18:24] <zee> yet this works fine on my computer running windows vista and firefox nightly
[18:24] <sabel> i just installed ubuntu. is there any updates or anything like that i should do?
[18:25] <Slart> Virunga: it seems that anything containing a dot would match that definition of "extension", except if the dot is first or last... so this might work  find ./ -type f -regex .[!\.]*.
[18:25] <wtfnotacceptable> sabel, if it's 12.04 install the updates, but a recent update from 12.10 just killed my machine so I wouldn't recommend them at the moment
[18:25] <zee> I'd rather not type my credit card information on the computer that runs vista, as it is so terribly insecure. Can anyone help me with these issues?
[18:25] <wtfnotacceptable> sabel, if it's working as you want it to work, don't bother just now, do it in a few days
[18:26] <Slart> Virunga: I'm not sure that's the answer you're looking for but it's an answer to what you asked for.. =/
[18:26] <sabel> it is working for the most part i just am having some serious trouble installing Wine..
[18:27] <wtfnotacceptable> sabel, updates are unlikely to help with wine, it's just hard to configure as it is, I am not sure why it's the case but wine has forever been a total disaster in terms of default install
[18:27] <zee> can anyone here help me?
[18:27] <wtfnotacceptable> sabel, don't worry though, steam is coming soon
[18:27] <a5m0> are these better/different than using the xorg-edgers ppa? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2012Q4.html
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: you are the only person in a long time taht has reported this that I have heard of and I help in here literally on a daily basis as well as on launchpad
[18:27] <sabel> right..but..unfortunatly i need wine for most of my games anyway. for one specifically League of LEgends
[18:28] <Night_Elf> Hi all. What is a good software for recording the screen? Something similar to 'fraps' in winWorld ?
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> a5m0: edgers is not for the casual users, it is extremely experimental
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Night_Elf: kazam or recordmydesktop
[18:28] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I still haven't ruled out the HDD, but it was directly after installing an update. I am having trouble blaming the hdd at the moment (and grub reinstalled fine onto the non-encrypted bit)
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: maybe a grub update didn't quite complete and caused an issue.
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: I'd also test RAM
[18:29] <Virunga> Slart: no it don't. I wan't a regex that marches for example /path.to.some/thing but not /path/to/something.else or /path.to/so.thing
[18:29] <kvte> hey, could someone please help me with a question?
[18:29] <Virunga> *doesn't
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> kvte: ask away
[18:29] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, as in, browsing with 20 tabs, music, terminals, etc on a machine that hasn't rebooted in a week. update dialogue appears, install, requests reboot, reboot, doesn't boot
[18:29] <kvte> I'm trying to browse motherless.com and for some reason it's telling me that i don't have adobe installed
[18:30] <kvte> flash player works fine on youtube and stuff, it's just motherless thats not working
[18:30] <kvte> do you know what the problem could be?
[18:30] <Slart> Virunga: ahh.. while I go back and try you can see if this works for you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8509187
[18:30] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, is there a website that lists the updates to 12.10 in chronological order? maybe we can see what was updated
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> kvte: have you tried other browsers?
[18:30] <tmmunq> ....how is that ubuntu related?
[18:31] <bhavesh> is there something faster than gparted?
[18:31] <xDesu> kvte, you are shameless. I like you.
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: if you mount your internal partition and navigate to var/log you can read dpkg.log and see what waas updated
[18:31] <SuperNull> wtf. what is the point of IdleOne ?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> SuperNull: how do you mean?
[18:32] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, k going to try to get the main partition mounted, encrypted though so it might take a while to figure it out. I will be back in a while. I expect to waste three hours on this and just reinstall in the end.
[18:32] <a5m0> ActionParsnip, i realize it's experimental but i was trying to find out if the other drivers were better or if they were the same, it seems like there are no propietary drivers for intel 4000 graphics?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> a5m0: there aren't. intel themselves make the intel drivers for linux. they also contribute lots to the kernel development too
[18:33] <Virunga> Slart: found it find . -regextype posix-extended -regex '^.*?/[^.]+$'
[18:33] <dr_willis> i belive intel may outsource (or has in the past) some of their linux drivers. ;) they had some legal issues with that a few years back. :P Hopefully they learned to do them all in house now.
[18:33] <yilmaz> jrib, can I simply reset all locale related settings?
[18:33] <Slart> Virunga: nice =)
[18:34] <ClientAlive> what do they call the bar on the left side of gnome 3 that has launchers in it? I've been trying to google how to get rid of it but not sure I'm using the right search words.
[18:34] <yilmaz> jrib, dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[18:34] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  the activies panel/favorites list?
[18:34] <Virunga> Slart: thanks for your time.
[18:34] <Slart> Virunga: you're welcome
[18:34] <tmmunq> i dont recall gnome3 having a bar on the left. maybe you mean unity?
[18:34] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  i doubt if theres a simple tweak for it in gnome-shell ;)
[18:35] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  Unity has the left side launcher panel. Its not removeable. but can be set to auto-hide
[18:35] <cbk> hi all
[18:36] <cbk> have some problems saving GdkColor object to desktopcouch dictionary
[18:36] <cbk> i've used quickly to generate ubuntu-app
[18:36] <cbk> any suggestion?
[18:36] <jiffe98> anyone know why when I use perl's Net::SNMP I'm getting 'perl: warning: Setting locale failed.' in the reply?
[18:36] <jiffe98> my locale is sert
[18:36] <jiffe98> set
[18:37] <cbk> AttributeError: 'Document' object has no attribute 'read'
[18:37] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: I've been searching for a shell extension for that. I got a shell extension called axe menu that I like a lot more but I just have to get rid of that stinkin' bar now.  :(
[18:37] <g_> hi, i have a question/comment on the recent update of ubuntu...
[18:37] <micah__> can someone pleeease help me set up wifi
[18:37] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  i really dont use gnome-shell, i perfer unity.
[18:37] <bazhang> !wifi | micah__
[18:37] <dr_willis> micah__:  details of whats not working will help us help you
[18:37] <cbk> miacah__ what's big deal?
[18:38] <zee> hi I discovered
[18:38] <micah__> im trying to setup wifi on my old powerbook g4 I had to install ubuntu 9.04 power pc cause it was the only version that would work
[18:38] <zee> an easter egg
[18:38] <zee> in ubuntu
[18:38] <zee> when you run
[18:38] <FloodBot1> zee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:38] <micah__> and I cant find a way to connect to wireless
[18:38] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: I see
[18:38] <pjotter> Hello everyone. Does anybody know of a recent problem concerning flash and Xubuntu? Most of the flashplayers (e.g. youtube) have suddenly become slow and buggy.
[18:39] <cbk> micah__ find out ya card vendor (lspci | grep Wire)
[18:39] <micah__> how do i find out my card vendor?
[18:39] <yilmaz> jrib, anyways thank for trying
[18:40] <yilmaz> bye all
[18:40] <cbk> pjotter, what arch version of xubuntu are you using?
[18:40] <dr_willis> pjotter:  flash on linux has always been buggy..  its been a top 10 problem in this channel for.. well.. ever.
[18:41] <pjotter> :)
[18:41] <pjotter> I am using 12.04
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> pjotter: could install chrome, it has it's own flash plugin
[18:41] <cbk> dr_willis, i've noticed 32-bit sys has bit better performance the 64bit ones...or i'm wrong o.O
[18:41] <dr_willis> or use the various flash-replacer plugins to watch the videos in vlc.
[18:42] <pjotter> I am trying that right now...
[18:42] <micah__> anyone know how to set up wifi for ubuntu on a laptop?
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> cbk: depends on the task
[18:42] <dr_willis> cbk:  i never use 32bit.. so no idea.  ive no issues with flash on my current machine - and its 64bit
[18:42] <a5m0> ActionParsnip, haha i gave him that same advice in #xubuntu about installing chrome
[18:42] <tmmunq> bugs and poor performance in flash? lol, you dont say
[18:42] <dr_willis> micah__:  for my laptop i just click the wifi icon at the top right.. and connect...
[18:42] <cbk> anyone developing with quickly?
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> a5m0: its all I use, no adobe flash in sight :)
[18:43] <micah__> it wont scan for wireless networks and wont connect when i put mine in manually
[18:43] <a5m0> yep, does chromium have it too?
[18:43] <micah__> when i do it just says wireless disconnected
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> micah__: what wifi chip?
[18:43] <micah__> idk its in an old power book g4 mac
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> a5m0: no, its a proprietary blob added by google. its one of the differences
[18:44] <elstud> micah what do you get when you click on arrows in upper right  hand corner
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> a5m0: you can link the plugin into chromium if you use it though :)
[18:44] <trism> cbk: you might try #ubuntu-app-devel
[18:44] <pjotter> Chrome did the trick. The flash problem lies with firefox, I think.
[18:44] <cbk> trism,  tnx
[18:44] <dr_willis> these days you can get decent USB-wifi dongles on amazon for $18 that work out of the box in ubuntu. ;)   a must have  for my PC toolbox.
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> micah__: run:   sudo lshw -C network    what is output?
[18:44] <micah__> I dont see an arrow in the right hand corner @elstud
[18:45] <micah__> one set actionparsnip
[18:45] <micah__> sec*
[18:45] <Bustacap> I'm having trouble getting a hard drive to be detected :/
[18:45] <micah__> ActionParsnip: it says network 0 and 1 disables
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: does it show in BIOS?
[18:45] <micah__> and ethernet stuff
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> micah__: what is the product line  for the wifi?
[18:45] <elstud> what distro are you using
[18:46] <micah__> wireless IEEE 80211bg
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> micah__: is taht all it says?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> micah__: not a broadcom or anything like that
[18:46] <s5fs> I'm running 12.04, but I don't have an /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf file. Where would my wifi config file be located?
[18:47] <CQN> anyone here familiar with mozc on xubuntu?
[18:48] <bazhang> CQN, whats the real question
[18:48] <CQN> when i convert text from kana to kanji, it's rendering some kanji using hanzi/hanja fonts
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> micah__: or run:  lspci    it should name a chip there
[18:48] <hsnmck> Hello. I have a file that uses Steganography to hide a message in a text by adding extra whitespaces at the end of the lines. Here is the  original file http://classics.mit.edu/Homer/iliad.mb.txt and here is the modified file http://lacalsrv6.epfl.ch/iliad.txt . I can see the
[18:49] <hsnmck> :b2
[18:49] <bazhang> ibus-mozc  <---- did you mean that CQN
[18:49] <CQN> the only place it doesn't happen are japanese websites, probably due to encoding
[18:49] <CQN> bazhang: yeah
[18:49] <CQN> bazhang: http://i.imgur.com/ajqz5.png
[18:50] <sabel> i am having the most difficult time installing wine..i keep getting hung up on dependancies anyone know how to work around or fix this?
[18:50] <CQN> notice how 神's left radical is rendered differently based on whether i'm on google.com or google.co.jp
[18:50] <bazhang> CQN, thats a firefox conflict with ibus
[18:50] <gordonjcp> sabel: how are you installing it?
[18:50] <CQN> bazhang: i'm also getting the incorrect one (google.com) in other software, like leafpad
[18:50] <sabel> through the software center
[18:51] <CQN> and in the terminal
[18:51] <gordonjcp> sabel: pastebin the exact error you're getting
[18:51] <sabel> how do i message specifically you like you are to me?
[18:52] <sabel> This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[18:52] <sabel> is the error
[18:52] <bazhang> sabel, type the first two or three letters, then hit <tab> key
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> sabel: type a bit of the nick and hit TAB to autocomplete it. The name will highlight for who you address
[18:52] <sabel> gordonjcp: This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[18:52] <sabel> gordonjcp:
[18:52] <sabel> gordonjcp: wine1.4: PreDepends: dpkg (>= 1.15.7.2~) but 1.16.1.2ubuntu7 is to be installed          Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14) but 2.15-0ubuntu10.2 is to be installed          Depends: wine1.4-amd64 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3) but 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3 is to be installed          Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3) but it is a virtual package
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> sabel: http://techhelplist.com/index.php/tech-tutorials/43-linux-adventures/86-ubuntu-1204-and-percona-toolkit-dependencies-error
[18:54] <bazhang> sabel, you have a PPA there
[18:54] <sabel> bazhang: i'm not sure what you mean
[18:54] <bazhang> sabel, an outside software source that You added
[18:55] <sabel> bazhang: i still don't quite get it...im very new. All i did was use the software manager and attempt to install wine.
[18:56] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:59] <duanedes1gn> scp command to transfer from VPS to local box?
[18:59] <Eagleman> What do you suggest for making backups ( synchronising specific files and folders ONE way  Ubuntu>external disk/samba share ) ?
[19:01] <prashant_123456> facing ubuntu bug top and bottom panel dont disapper when viewing fullscreen video (ubuntu classic, not using compiz )
[19:02] <Eagleman> What do you suggest for making backups ( synchronising specific files and folders ONE way  Ubuntu>external disk/samba share ) ?
[19:02] <MestreLion> can someone help me troubleshoot HDMI sound output via discrete ATI video card using catalyst? lspci | grep Audio shows both the onboard and the video card sound devices, but aplay -l shows only the onboard one. Any directions?
[19:03] <MestreLion> can someone help me troubleshoot HDMI sound output via discrete ATI video card using catalyst? lspci | grep Audio shows both the onboard and the video card sound devices, but aplay -l shows only the onboard one. Any directions?
[19:03] <bazhang> MestreLion, no need to repeat so quickly
[19:04] <MestreLion> sorry bazhang , I noticed we were on netsplit, so I wasnt sure if my lines were sent
[19:04] <pjotr> hi... I am a windows user that wants to install ubuntu 12.04... I am in the middle of the process now, and I am using the alternate installer, using recommended way to make bootable usb, install boots up, I select language, keyboard, but then it fails at "cannot mount cdrom", how come?
[19:04] <benth2> hi i was wondering how running Zeitgiest helps me
[19:04] <prashant_123456> MestreLion, any help ?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> benth2: gets you to the most used apps faster
[19:04] <benth2> ActionParsnip: how so?
[19:05] <prashant_123456>  ActionParsnip any idea of my bug
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> benth2: you click dash, there they are
[19:05] <pjotr> I thought that using the usb should not require cdrom, but I guess this might be some internals how the usb installer works?
[19:05] <benth2> oh okay. well i don't use unity so i guess i'll remove zeitgeist
[19:06] <MestreLion> pjotr: do you need the alternate installer for any particular reason? usually the normal installer handles usb just fine
[19:06] <prashant_123456> facing ubuntu bug top and bottom panel dont disapper when viewing fullscreen video (ubuntu classic, not using compiz )
[19:06] <pjotr> MestreLion: I need encryption, and on 12.04 that is the only way...
[19:06] <chung-chyu> how to install nvidia GT610 drivers for ubuntu 10.04 ?
[19:07] <Eagleman> !10.04
[19:07] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, full screen shows no panel, that is no bug.
[19:07] <MestreLion> pjotr: for *full hd* encryption, yes... but you can encrypt just your home folder, which is for most cases just enough. besides, full hdd encryption will prevent you from using windows
[19:07] <benth2> i don't want ubuntu-geoip running but i want to keep my datetime indicator. is that possible?
[19:08] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, on viewing fullscreen videos top and bottom panels always shows
[19:08] <pjotr> MestreLion: I need full disk encryption, no other options in my work, otherwise my client would not allow me to work for them :)
[19:08] <trism> benth2: install geoclue-manual and then remove geoclue-ubuntu-geoip
[19:08] <pjotr> MestreLion: and I want to throw away Windows...
[19:09] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, no ti doesn't in full screen. try maximize screen, then you would have panels.
[19:09] <pjotr> just assume alternate image on usb is only possible way, because it is :) I have no cdrom, and only usb boot available...
[19:09] <MestreLion> pjotr: have tou tried using an actual cd? maybe alternate installer can't handle usb (wild guess here)
[19:09] <benth2> trism: thank you
[19:09] <Eagleman> What do you suggest for making Incremental backups with compression ( synchronising specific files and folders ONE way  Ubuntu>external disk/samba share ) ?
[19:09] <pjotr> MestreLion: I do not have a cdrom :(
[19:10] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, in simple terms cant view fullscreen youtube videos
[19:10] <pjotr> I tried 10.04 alternate ones before in life, and that was supporting usb...
[19:10] <prashant_123456>  OerHeks top and bottom panels dont disapper they are alwasy there
[19:10] <pjotr> but I must be able to make a hack, meaning mount the usb as /cdrom, no?
[19:10] <MestreLion> I never used alternate, so I can't help. maybe google for any issues regarding 12.04's alternate and usb?
[19:11] <pjotr> googled around, can only find posts regarding old ubuntus (7ish)...
[19:11] <pjotr> someone here who managed to install Ubuntu 12.04 from alternate image with a usb stick?
[19:11] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, any idea
[19:12] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, oh, dont disappear, try F11 = full screen ?
[19:12] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, yes i have tried that also its a bug
[19:12] <OerHeks> IdleOne, capital Q
[19:13] <fakixlix> HOlaaaa alguien habla español??
[19:14] <Eagleman> !es
[19:14] <fakixlix> Gracias
[19:14] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, bug Bug #977438
[19:14] <Eagleman> What do you suggest for making Incremental backups with compression ( synchronising specific files and folders ONE way  Ubuntu>external disk/samba share ) ?
[19:18] <JuJuBee> Im having trouble upgrading a computer to 12.10 in regards to network cards.  I have 3 cards but 12.10 only configures 2 of them.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2084735
[19:18] <JuJuBee> Can someone take a look and offer advice?
[19:18] <pjotr> byebye...
[19:18] <superbbb> hi
[19:19] <superbbb> i've a problem with installation of lubuntu
[19:19] <Eagleman> !lubuntu
[19:19] <gordonjcp> !ask | superbbb
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> superbbb  let's hear it
[19:21] <superbbb> i've a acer 3634wlmi, with no hd
[19:21] <simplew> i have installed plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo and runned 'sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth' and changed to use ubuntu boot theme, but when rebooting it did not appeared with ubuntu theme, any help?
[19:22] <gordonjcp> superbbb: no hd would cause you problems right enough
[19:22] <bazhang> what version of ubuntu simplew
[19:22] <superbbb> lubuntu 12.10
[19:22] <OerHeks> simplew, did you perform "sudo update-initramfs -u " after that ?
[19:22] <OerHeks> !plymouth
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> superbbb  what's the problem exactly
[19:23] <simplew> OerHeks: ok
[19:24] <superbbb> i want to install lubu with usb, in acer 3634wlmi with no hd, in the setup page, when i click install the screen become black
[19:24] <bazhang> superbbb, from usb to what?
[19:24] <prashant_123456> bug #977438  but i dont use compiz , solutions please and i love ubuntu and dont want to switch to another distro please anyone can solve my problem
[19:25] <superbbb> i use 2 usb
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> superbbb  a persistent install on usb?
[19:25] <bazhang> superbbb, why not just make the first one persistent?
[19:25] <superbbb> MonkeyDust i want install it on usb
[19:25] <superbbb> sorry for my english
[19:25] <MestreLion> guys, regarding my HDMI audio issue, I've found this: sudo lshw -C multimedia gives *-multimedia UNCLAIMED . Any way to "claim" it? I can see the device in lspci | grep Audio, but not in aplay -l. Directions please?
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> superbbb  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[19:26] <superbbb> one moment i have to lunch
[19:26] <kevo> Can someone help me please?
[19:26] <superbbb> MonkeyDust i 've problem with sys video driver
[19:26] <bazhang> kevo, with what?
[19:27] <kevo> Having a ton of trouble with Nvidia GTX 670 on Ubuntu 12.10
[19:27] <prashant_123456> bazhang, can u solve my problem
[19:27] <kevo> bazhang, for some reason my drivers are not working properly. I never had this issue before. I'm getting a very tiny resolution and cannot resolve.
[19:28] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, did you try the fix as mentioned in #21 ?
[19:28] <bazhang> kevo, what drivers do you have installed, what resolution do you currently have, what resolution do you wish to see
[19:28] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, please tell me where to see for solution
[19:28] <bazhang> prashant_123456, in your bug report
[19:29] <kevo> Ok I have 310.19 drivers installed, I have a 1024x768 resolution, and I want to see 1920x1080
[19:29] <prashant_123456>  bazhang i dont have bug report
[19:29] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, see your url, answer #21, enable precise-proposed repo
[19:29] <bazhang> prashant_123456, you gave us a bug report
[19:29] <pecc> yo, my sound disappears at random, connect/reconnect dock helps but only until for a few minutes if even that (audio jack is in dock)
[19:29] <prashant_123456> bazhang, ok but i see
[19:29] <prashant_123456> bazhang, dont know what to do please tell me
[19:30] <bazhang> prashant_123456, OerHeks just told you
[19:30] <kevo> I've used LinuxMint 14 perfectly for my drivers and they worked exactly as they should, Ubuntu 12.10 gives me this problem all the time. I did fresh installs of OS numerous times.
[19:30] <prashant_123456> bazhang, not getting any point of you sorry for that
 prashant_123456, see your url, answer #21, enable precise-proposed repo
[19:31] <bazhang> prashant_123456, see above
[19:31] <prashant_123456>  bazhang  ok see above ok
[19:31] <ClientAlive> I installed ubuntu server because I didn't want to deal with all the default stuff that cones with ubuntu desktop. Now I want a better (high performance) kernel. I don't really want to deal with configuring a kernel myself - that just sucks. What is the easiest way to get a different kernel and what am I facing in regard to updates if I do?
[19:31] <kevo> bazhang, any ideas?
[19:31] <OpenSorce> Been dreading this, new kernel time. Now I get to fight with my Nvidia drivers again :-P
[19:31] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, open software centre, edit , sources, enable precise-proposed, close it, and run updates
[19:32] <bazhang> ClientAlive, the real time kernel? what do you mean by "high performance", for what exactly
[19:32] <kevo> OpenSorce, I think that might be my problem is kernel. Is that why my Nvidia drivers are not working properly?
[19:32] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, ok
[19:32] <OpenSorce> kevo, not sure. What is it doing/not doing?
[19:33] <Guest83861> hey please help me
[19:33] <kevo> My monitor is saying it's a laptop screen and outputting low resolutions and not the correct ones.
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> Guest83861  start with a question
[19:33] <OpenSorce> kevo, that's odd. Are they the drivers from the repos or did you manually install it?
[19:33] <rosevp> hello - can someone help me connect remotely to xdm
[19:34] <rosevp> have ubuntu configured but getting xdm errors
[19:34] <kevo> OpenSorce, It's just not working at all. Like the GPU is detected but it's displaying my monitor as a laptop and not my regular 23" 1080P monitor. Can't change any of my resolutions. I get errors during startup of OS.
[19:34] <ClientAlive> bazhang: I seem to have some sort of I/O problem. My mouse pointer freezes (and this is a newer desktop with plenty of ram - 16 gig and a fast processor). I thought I would try getting a different kernel to see if it fixes the issue. I want to start adding things like compiz and am worried about the problem getting worse.
[19:34] <softcoder> hi, using ubu 12.10 nvidia properitary driver (but also seen on another system using latest ubu 12.04 using amd cataylst)... screen resolution randonly changes and i have to go to video card settings to re-adjust
[19:34] <OpenSorce> kevo, take a look at my last question
[19:34] <softcoder> is this a known issue?
[19:35] <softcoder> for the 12.10 system this happens multiple times every day
[19:35] <kevo> OpenSorce, drivers from repos. Did simple apt-get install nvidia-current.
[19:35] <ClientAlive> bazhang: *problem 'would' get worse (wtih compiz installed).
[19:35] <kevo> 310.19 drivers
[19:35] <kevo> I'm running HDMI to monitor.
[19:35] <softcoder> can anyone help?
[19:35] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, ok updating
[19:35] <rosevp> getting the following errors Starting X server on 192.168.1.6:0
[19:35] <deadmund> ClientAlive: mouse = wireless bluetooth mouse?
[19:35] <rosevp> Fri Nov 30 09:58:10 2012 xdm error (pid 12421): Hung in XOpenDisplay(192.168.1.6:0), aborting
[19:35] <rosevp> Fri Nov 30 09:58:10 2012 xdm error (pid 12421): server open failed for 192.168.1.6:0, giving up
[19:36] <rosevp> Hung in XOpenDisplay(192.168.1.6:0), aborting
[19:36] <rosevp> Fri Nov 30 09:58:10 2012 xdm error (pid 12421): server open failed for 192.168.1.6:0, giving up
[19:36] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, ok done with update
[19:36] <ClientAlive> bazhang: I don't think it's bluetooth but it is wireless
[19:36] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, now what can i check my video again ?
[19:36] <kevo> OpenSorce, I'm on 310.19 drivers. I was running LinuxMint 14 yesterday and installed the drivers the same way and worked perfectly both video and audio, but with Ubuntu 12.10 I get this problem.
[19:36] <OpenSorce> kevo, cool. I had random issues with that driver and went with ones from Nvidia's website. There are some guys in #nvidia who can be pretty helpful with that
[19:37] <kevo> OpenSorce, thanks bro will check them out.
[19:37] <OpenSorce> kevo no problem, I'm sure you'll get it straightened out
[19:37] <prashant_123456> bazhang, done with update
[19:38] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, yes, if the fix works, you can leave a message @ that bugreport
[19:38] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, let me check please and then i will tell u
[19:38] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, bazhang thanks
[19:39] <pecc> yo, my sound disappears at random, connect/reconnect dock helps but only until for a few minutes if even that (audio jack is in dock)
[19:40] <pecc> running Quantal
[19:40] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, bazhang still having the problem
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> pecc  does it also happen without the dock?
[19:41] <pecc> MonkeyDust, I haven't tried... will be back soon (cannot keep connection up without dock)
[19:42] <OpenSorce> Does anyone else find Unity ugly and a bit sluggish?
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> OpenSorce  wrong channel for that question
[19:42] <pndemc> OpenSorce, not the place.
[19:43] <bazhang> OpenSorce, did you wish to troubleshoot? or just poll
[19:43] <OpenSorce> lollko, sorry
[19:43] <ClientAlive> bazhang: stupidest thing on the planet! <- there was some stuff dried on the bottom of the little pads on the bottom of the mouse. I think it was coffee (with cream and sugar of course - ha ha). I don't know if that was the issue or not but I'm gonna go ahead and install compiz and see if the problem comes up again later. If it does I'll deal with it then.
[19:43] <ClientAlive> ths :)
[19:43] <OpenSorce> What is the channel? #ubuntu-offtopic?
[19:44] <ClientAlive> thx
[19:44] <FloodBot1> ClientAlive: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <superbbb> hi MonkeyDustin the guide there is: Several video drivers are not functioning with some legacy chip-sets
[19:44] <grimeton> how can one shutdown 12.10 ?
[19:44] <superbbb> my video driver is sys 661mx
[19:45] <grimeton> do i have to pray for it to be shutdown or will the power button start working again ?
[19:45] <ClientAlive> hay fooldbot (thought you be a computer program) SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY DAG NABIT!
[19:45] <TheLordOfTime> ClientAlive, please move this out of #ubuntu, thanks.
[19:45] <theflash397>  !!
[19:45] <theflash397> hello evry body
[19:45] <deadmund> grimeton: sudo shutdown -h now ??
[19:45] <ClientAlive> TheLordOfTime: move what?
[19:46] <grimeton> deadmund: i'm talking about the shutdown option in the upper right
[19:46] <ClientAlive> asking about a kernel? or asking about i/o issues.
[19:46] <rosevp> can someone help me with my xdm issue?
[19:46] <rosevp> is this the correct channel to ask xdm questions?
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> ClientAlive, your yelling at the bot.
[19:46] <ClientAlive> on an ubuntu 12.04 system
[19:46] <deadmund> grimeton: Oh, IDK :P
[19:46] <theflash397> what are you doing ?
[19:46] <ClientAlive> calm down and let people be people for once
[19:47] <psychopathic> Did you know what the sun of god is doing. He travels in a box out a square and through a tree.
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> !offtopic | psychopathic
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> psychopathic, do you an actual support question?
[19:49] <yhusha> working on editing an iso and theres some issues heres the pastebin its relatively short   http://pastebin.com/xjdYvhgZ
[19:49] <yhusha> maybe somebody might see whats going on.. with it
[19:50] <deadmund> yhusha: You're just making typos and not using correct paths.
[19:50] <yhusha> hmm
[19:50] <deadmund> yhusha: As your a beginner, always use full path names.  Also, use the tab key to autocomplete what you're typing.
[19:50] <superbbb> Login screen just flickers on screen then screen goes blank before login screen flickers back on and of for ever more.
[19:51] <superbbb> what can i do?
[19:51] <superbbb> i've a sys 661mmx
[19:51] <superbbb> it's a acer 3634wlmi
[19:51] <ddilinger> random question ... is it possible to downgrade an ubuntu box from 12.10 to 12.04LTS?  or does it have to be re-installed
[19:52] <bekks> ddilinger: You have to reinstall.
[19:52] <ddilinger> k, thats what i figured
[19:53] <OerHeks> superbbb, you have problem with SiS videodriver?
[19:53] <theflash397> what are you donig ?
[19:53] <yhusha> yes the tab done that a few times there was a typo that was fixed where were the others besides the double i in cd: /home/yhusha/livecdtmp
[19:54] <danfg> i have a question regarding the find command, in the -exec part, it substitutes {} for names like '../path//file', how do i get rid of the double slash, or how do i get only the filename, not the path?
[19:54]  * malkauns wonders if he can go a day without a unity crash
[19:55] <OpenSorce> danfg, have you tried man find?
[19:55] <danfg> OpenSorce: i have, do you know of any commands in there i should use?
[19:55] <superbbb> yes OerHeks
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> danfg  the first slash is to indicate that the second is a character, not a symbol -- it's called a regular expression
[19:56] <ddilinger> danfg: well, look at the end of the description for -exec
[19:56] <ddilinger> danfg: and you will have your answer
[19:57] <ddilinger> danfg: quoting the man page " you should use the -execdir option instead", and for -execdir:  ike  -exec,  but  the specified command is run from the subdirectory containing the matched file
[19:57] <OerHeks> superbbb, i think i have bad news, SiS is not well supported in linux.
[19:57] <ddilinger> danfg: end result, it will only be the filename
[19:58] <danfg> ddilinger: hmm ok, it's a workaround
[19:58] <yhusha> mkdir ~/livecdtmp this command failed to create the specified directory
[19:59] <yhusha> or does directory in this scenario mean file
[19:59] <OerHeks> superbbb try the vesa driver, when booting the usb, at the point install/try live, choose with F6 vesa ( if i recall correct)
[19:59] <bazhang> yhusha, on a live cd?
[20:00] <kevo> Okay maybe someone can help me with my driver problem. When I run nvidia-settings in terminal, I get a error saying "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run ' nvidia-xconfig' as root), and restart the X server."
[20:00] <yhusha> this is being done on a hdd install
[20:00] <yhusha> aready installed
[20:01] <yhusha> operating on an iso from ubuntu.com
[20:01] <yhusha> the system this is being done on is also the same as the iso file
[20:01] <zykotick9> kevo: run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" which will generate a xorg.conf for you.  then restart Xorg.
[20:02] <kevo> zykotic9, how do I restart Xorg?
[20:03] <yhusha> testing this tutorial but it seems theres some errs >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[20:03] <kevo> zykotic9, command?
[20:03] <santiago> Hello everyone
[20:03] <zykotick9> kevo: "sudo service lightdm restart" myabe?  not sure.
[20:03] <Citillara> Hello, anyone knows how can I download the public certificate of a remote server in bash ?
[20:04] <newbiehelp> hi
[20:04] <newbiehelp> i an newbie i need help
[20:05] <newbiehelp> hi i need help for sound issue
[20:06] <yhusha> and for a command like this, sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso mnt  does the iso have to be in a specific place noticed it wont find it in downloads  by it self but it finds it in /home
[20:06] <newbiehelp> please talk too me if your good with linux
[20:07] <newbiehelp> hello
[20:07] <newbiehelp> anyone there?
[20:07] <yhusha> that happens some times
[20:08] <yhusha> just type more details about the audio issue
[20:08] <rosevp> is the correct place to ask a xdm question?
[20:08] <newbiehelp> ok i will type the detail
[20:08] <zykotick9> rosevp: why on earth are you usind xdm?  is it 1994 again?
[20:08] <newbiehelp> i have pulse audio when i go too configuration there is no sound card
[20:09] <newbiehelp> and when i open gmome alsa there is nothing exect a grey screen
[20:09] <yhusha> check proprietory drivers list
[20:09] <newbiehelp> and with all that sound dont work
[20:09] <newbiehelp> there is no driver listed
[20:09] <yhusha> fresh installl
[20:09] <newbiehelp> yup i have done it
[20:09] <yhusha> done updates yet?
[20:09] <newbiehelp> yup
[20:09] <lalla> identify lalla nadeesh
[20:10] <newbiehelp> how i do that?
[20:10] <yhusha> terminal
[20:10] <newbiehelp> ok
[20:10] <lalla> identify nadeesh lalla
[20:10] <newbiehelp> identify nadeesh lalla
[20:10] <newbiehelp> dentify: unable to open image `nadeesh':  @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2489. identify: unable to open image `lalla':  @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2489.
[20:10] <yhusha> sudo apt-get update
[20:10] <ajp> i'm trying to write a bash script to resize PDFs after they are scanned (using ghost script) and after resizing i lose the last %25 of the file. It's just white halfway down the page. Can anyone suggest something I can do?
[20:11] <zykotick9> lalla: fail x2.  change your password ;)  you need a / at the beginning, and shouldn't do that in a channel.
[20:11] <bobweaver> !latex | ajp  ?
[20:12] <newbiehelp> done
[20:12] <newbiehelp> update done
[20:13] <newbiehelp> yhusha
[20:13] <yhusha> check the audio
[20:13] <yhusha> if nothing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[20:13] <ajp> bobweaver: i know what latex is, I don't need it. I'm just trying to resize PDFs using ghostscript from the command line so it can be bash scripted
[20:14] <bobweaver> ajp,  can we see script ?
[20:14] <ajp> bobweaver: sure pm me
[20:14] <rosevp> getting the following from xdm - xdm error Hung in XOpenDisplay(192.168.1.6:0), aborting
[20:14] <bobweaver>  /msg ajp,  no pastebin ?
[20:14] <bobweaver> er
[20:15] <newbiehelp> no sound card found
[20:15] <yhusha> check the tutorial it should fix it
[20:16] <yhusha> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[20:16] <newbiehelp> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic
[20:16] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  you have tried the command              aplay -l   ?
[20:16] <newbiehelp> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic
[20:16] <newbiehelp> i tryed a play
[20:17] <newbiehelp> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package linux-restricted-modules-3.0.0-12-generic E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-restricted-modules-3.0.0-12-generic'
[20:18] <newbiehelp> any help please
[20:18] <newbiehelp> this is the code i get from the commandsudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic
[20:18] <lalla> exit
[20:18] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  what is output of uname -r ?
[20:18] <ajp> my PDF gs script: http://pastebin.com/aWQ2WB9v
[20:18] <ajp> need helps
[20:18] <newbiehelp> what you mean bob?
[20:18] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  type it into the terminal        uname -r
[20:19] <bekks> newbiehelp: "uname -r" is a command, and it will produce some output.
[20:19] <newbiehelp> 3.0.0-12-generic
[20:19] <robottinosino> I can't get texlive-base to install in any way: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1400458/
[20:20] <BlackScreen> Hi. My colleague has tried installing Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu Secure Remix, Ubuntu Alternate, and Ubuntu Desktop. Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Secure Remix black screen during install. Ubuntu server/alternate complete the install but when the computer boots and shift is held, it says 'loading grub' then goes to black screen.
[20:20] <BlackScreen> does anybody know how we would proceed?
[20:20] <genii-around> newbiehelp: Use linux-image-extra      instead of linux-restricted-modules           and you may need ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:20] <bekks> !nomodeset | BlackScreen
[20:20] <robottinosino> It appears quite  a few people are having the same problem as me (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1400458/) do you think that's a fair claim?
[20:20] <newbiehelp> genii what you mean?
[20:20] <newbiehelp> genni be clear i am not good
[20:21] <BlackScreen> ubottu: I already said that we cannot boot into grub even if shift is held
[20:21] <BlackScreen> oh
[20:21] <BlackScreen> heh
[20:22] <BlackScreen> wrong person
[20:22] <BlackScreen> bekks: see above
[20:22] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  what happens when you type this into the terminal "software-properties-gtk"      then click on other tab is all the independent and partners clicked ?
[20:23] <McManiaC> hey, how can you hide avatars in empathy/get a more compact view of your contact list?
[20:23] <genii-around> newbiehelp: eg: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-image-extra-$(uname -r) ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:23] <rosevp> can't connect to xdm remotely
[20:23] <BlackScreen> so how am i supposed to use nomodeset if it doesnt even go into grub?
[20:23] <ugo> ggggggg
[20:23] <newbiehelp> software-properties-gtk
[20:24] <bekks> rosevp: Thats intended, since you have to enable that security relevant hole before being able to access it remotely.
[20:24] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  look at this screen shot   http://imagebin.org/237720
[20:24] <newbiehelp> i am looking
[20:24] <robottinosino> Maybe I am lacking experience on this channel… but what would be a good strategy to interest some experts and recruit some help? Just ask and wait?
[20:25] <newbiehelp> genni i am doing the command
[20:25] <bekks> robottinosino: Yes.
[20:25] <robottinosino> bekks: Alright.
[20:25] <newbiehelp> genii
[20:25] <newbiehelp> E: Unable to locate package linux-image-extra-3.0.0-12-generic E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-extra-3.0.0-12-generic'
[20:25] <McManiaC> how can you hide avatars in empathy/get a more compact view of your contact list?
[20:26] <newbiehelp> bob what do i do when im on the right tab
[20:26] <kostkon> McManiaC, view → compact size?
[20:26] <BlackScreen> bekks: did you see my question?
[20:27] <kostkon> McManiaC, at least in 10.04
[20:27] <McManiaC> kostkon: where is this "view" menu?
[20:27] <bobweaver> robotfuel_,  what are deps of texlive-luatex   ? apt-cache show texlive-luatex   then look at depends line and make sure that they are installed there is some dep in there that is messing it up
[20:27] <kostkon> McManiaC, in your panel
[20:27] <newbiehelp> bob weaver ?
[20:27] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  make sure that they are checked like screen shot I sent you
[20:27] <dr_willis> rosevp:  remotely how exactly? xdmcp is turned off by default for security reasons
[20:27] <kostkon> McManiaC, where the global menu is
[20:27] <pecc> MonkeyDust, I'm back. Without the dock Spotify ran faultlessly for ~40 min straight (it pauses on its own when the sound fails) -- what now?
[20:28] <bekks> BlackScreen: Where did you install grub to, while installing? /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 ?
[20:28] <yhusha> any idea why this is happening: sudo mount -o looP ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso mnt
[20:28] <yhusha> [sudo] password for yhusha:
[20:28] <yhusha> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[20:28] <yhusha>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[20:28] <yhusha>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[20:28] <yhusha>        dmesg | tail  or so
[20:28] <FloodBot1> yhusha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <McManiaC> kostkon: i only got a "empathy" menu there
[20:28] <genii-around> newbiehelp: You need to enable additional repositories then in the Software Center
[20:28] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
[20:28] <kostkon> McManiaC, hmm
[20:29] <newbiehelp> genii ok what i do,? and BOB i dont have the same patern many link miss
[20:29] <cousin_luigi> Is there a place other than /etc/environment to declare global variables?
[20:29] <yhusha> any idea why this is happening http://pastebin.com/cUNhwJLD
[20:30] <robottinosino> As I patiently wait.. is there a better forum to ask about apt-get install problems? Maybe an aptitude channel? For Mac Ports, there is a channel just for packaging… I am only asking because I think my problem might be common to many users..
[20:30] <bobweaver> cousin_luigi,  can you be more detailed ?
[20:30] <kostkon> McManiaC, do you mean the tray icon? are you using unity or somwthing else
[20:30] <bobweaver> !motu | robottinosino
[20:30] <McManiaC> kostkon: standard unity, just installed ubuntu earlier
[20:31] <kostkon> McManiaC, 12.10?
[20:31] <McManiaC> kostkon: yup
[20:31] <Aelingil> In Ubuntu 12.04 (LTS) Is there any way when you click on [Dash] you Default to the "Installed Application" instead of the "Home" Lens?
[20:31] <newbiehelp> no sound card on pulse audio i have been searching for about 4 hours since today too fix it
[20:31] <bobweaver> Aelingil,  press Super+a
[20:31] <yhusha> and then theres this: /livecdtmp$ sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso mnt
[20:31] <yhusha> mount: warning: mnt seems to be mounted read-only.
[20:31] <cousin_luigi> bobweaver: I need to define an environment variable and for now I've set it in /etc/environment, but it doesn't look like a particularly clean solution. Could it be done otherwise?
[20:31] <newbiehelp> so i need help im really tired of looking alone
[20:31] <xangua> Aelingil: Super+a
[20:31] <bekks> yhusha: Thats intended for a CD image.
[20:32] <kostkon> McManiaC, hmm ok, i think empathy in 12.10 comes with much less available options.
[20:32] <xangua> Aelingil: if you keep super pressed you can see all unity shorcuts
[20:32] <yhusha> ye thats the idea
[20:32] <bobweaver> cousin_luigi,  say I wanted to set up my email and what not for bzr I would add that to bashrc
[20:32] <yhusha> to extract it this is nessarry
[20:32] <ClientAlive> what up bobweaver?
[20:32] <newbiehelp> -whois genni-around what are the url i need to add?
[20:32] <yhusha> necessary
[20:33] <bobweaver> Hey there brother ClientAlive  how you doing ?
[20:33] <Eagleman> Will this work with include and exclude files with rsync/rsnapshot  http://pastebin.com/JiA5pT8B  ?
[20:33] <cousin_luigi> bobweaver: But then it would be available only for applications started from bash, wouldn't it?
[20:33] <McManiaC> kostkon: there is no "empathy-full" package or something, is there?
[20:33] <bobweaver> +
[20:33] <newbiehelp> genni-around -whois  what are the url i need too add
[20:33] <ClientAlive> bobweaver: not too bad
[20:33] <yhusha> will it not work with a .iso download
[20:33] <bobweaver> cousin_luigi, what is .profile used for ?
[20:33] <newbiehelp> first how do i whisper someone?
[20:33] <kostkon> McManiaC, don't think there is
[20:33] <cousin_luigi> bobweaver: Your guess is as good as mine.
[20:34] <bobweaver> cousin_luigi,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[20:34] <Aelingil> xangua, bobweaver, thank you.. i didnt even think to look for a keyboard shortcut yet.. I was already into Dconf and looking to "reorganize" the order of Dash..
[20:34] <newbiehelp> how do i whisper someone ?
[20:34] <visof> hello
[20:34] <visof> hi
[20:34] <bobweaver> Aelingil,  press and hold super to see menu options
[20:34] <bekks> newbiehelp: By asking before, wether he/she wants that, and then using "/msg nickname hello"
[20:34] <visof> howto build rpm package in ubuntu ?
[20:34] <Aelingil> I can switch App/doc/music but not home.. :)
[20:34] <bobweaver> Aelingil,  which you can chang btw ;)
[20:35] <cousin_luigi> bobweaver: So /etc/environment it is.
[20:35] <bobweaver> visof,  talk to redhat or fedora or who ever
[20:35] <McManiaC> kostkon: that sucks :/
[20:35] <cousin_luigi> bbl
[20:35] <visof> bobweaver: what is the tool i should install in ubuntu to do that ?
[20:36] <bobweaver> there is not *good * tool to do that
[20:36] <bobweaver> but
[20:36] <b0ot> How do I get the GD/GD2 extension?
[20:36] <bobweaver> !info alen | visof
[20:36] <BlackScreen> bekks: my colleague is saying it defaults to MBR, and /dev/sda
[20:36] <newbiehelp> use /msg [genii-around] please help me geniie
[20:37] <newbiehelp> geniie-around /msg newbiehelp what do i have to do?
[20:38] <bobweaver> !pm | newbiehelp
[20:38] <bekks> newbiehelp: "/msg someothernicknamethanyours hello"
[20:38] <bobweaver> !info alien | visof I would NEVER EVER use this
[20:38] <newbiehelp>  !pm | bobweaver so pleaxs bob
[20:38] <bazhang> newbiehelp, just ask the channel
[20:39] <newbiehelp> ok i have no sound card detected by pulse audio
[20:39] <bobweaver> sorry newbiehelp  but I have a million things going On I can not devote time just to you.  that is not fair to everyone else
[20:39] <newbiehelp> i understand take your time
[20:40] <bazhang> newbiehelp, using what exactly to check that. tell us the exact method you are checking that
[20:40] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  did you check of the software sources that I sent you a picture of ?>
[20:40] <newbiehelp> ok i click on sound panel ok?, then i got no device listed
[20:40] <genii-around> newbiehelp: Apologies, but I have not enough time away from work right now to properly assist
[20:40] <BlackScreen> so basically it should be installing grub to MBR and /dev/sda
[20:40] <newbiehelp> bobwearver yes it does
[20:40] <BlackScreen> but somehow i think it's not installing properly
[20:41] <bazhang> newbiehelp, you checked in pavucontrol?
[20:41] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  and you have then updated after words ?
[20:41] <bobweaver> good idea bazhang
[20:41] <newbiehelp> nop i will update
[20:41] <bazhang> newbiehelp, what version of UB UNTU is this
[20:41] <newbiehelp> i checked pavu
[20:42] <newbiehelp> linux mint
[20:42] <bazhang> newbiehelp, thats not supported here
[20:42] <newbiehelp> but my uncle told me this site work better for help
[20:42] <newbiehelp> because the command are same
[20:42] <bazhang> he told you wrong
[20:42] <bazhang> !mintsupport | newbiehelp
[20:42] <ajp> anyone here versed in ghostscript's pdfwrite functionality?
[20:42] <newbiehelp>  !mintsupport
[20:43] <newbiehelp> so i have no sound device and alsa gnome dont work
[20:43] <bazhang> newbiehelp, join that server. we wont support MINT here
[20:43] <newbiehelp> where can i joint?
[20:43] <TheLordOfTime> newbiehelp, MINT support is offtopic here.  Their support is on irc.spotchat.org in #linuxmint-help
[20:43] <newbiehelp> thanks sorry
[20:44] <dr_willis> ask the mint guys why they dont set their disrtos irc clients to default to the mint channel. ;)
[20:44] <bekks> dr_willis: They know why ;)
[20:44] <ajp> anyone here versed in ghostscript's pdfwrite functionality? trying to get this script working properly http://pastebin.com/aWQ2WB9v
[20:45] <bazhang> http://milan.kupcevic.net/ghostscript-ps-pdf/   ajp such as this?
[20:45] <ignarps> If I pay for support from canonical,  does using custom ppa's void that support?
[20:45] <dr_willis> Im not really sure what actual paid suppport does. ;)
[20:45] <bobweaver> ignarps,  ask you Ubuntu advantage number
[20:46] <bazhang> ignarps, good question; contact them and ask?
[20:46] <bobweaver> your Ubuntu Advantage person
[20:46] <kostkon> ignarps, +1 for asking them
[20:46] <ignarps> I don't pay for support.  Was curious if anyone had asked this
[20:46] <Renard> Hello! Grub question: when the system is halted improperly, the set GRUB timeout is disabled and GRUB waits for an user input. Is it possible to force the timeout to be always on?
[20:46] <dr_willis> Renard:  you mean have it wait forever? thats doable i recall
[20:46] <ajp> bazhang: yeah but when my PDF comes out the back end it's missing pars as though it didn't load %25 of the page
[20:47] <ajp> parts*
[20:47] <bobweaver> ignarps,  I know that some that have Ubuntu Advantage def have there own repo
[20:47] <Renard> No, never wait. Still boot.
[20:47] <bazhang> ajp, so that page has some of the commands you are using?
[20:47] <superbbb> hey guys can i Downgraded xorg on lubuntu 12.10 on the usb?
[20:47] <ajp> bazhang: yeah
[20:47] <dr_willis> superbbb:  why do you need to downgrade?
[20:47] <bazhang> superbbb, why would you do that? is this a live usb or a persistent install
[20:48] <Renard> Turns out my USB keyboard doesn't work at the GRUB stage during boot, so I can't input anything here. Have to wait for the OS. I don't want to solve this issue, just go around it (easier for the end user)
[20:48] <pecc> my audio dies randomly when connected to dock, disconnect/reconnect helps every time but only until the next time, audio worked 40 min perfectly when disconnected from dock, after reconnecting failed in 10 min
[20:48] <ajp> bazhang: particularly -dPDFSETTINGS=/screen
[20:48] <ajp> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/aWQ2WB9v
[20:49] <dr_willis> Renard:  ive see that issue fixed by using the legacy usb support option in the bios   it may be called differnt things on some machines
[20:49] <g0rs> anybody configured ipv6 by connecting to a ipv6 address in xp?
[20:49] <bobweaver> g0rs,  what is xp  ?
[20:49] <bazhang> g0rs, xp? in #ubuntu ?
[20:49] <dr_willis> XPbuntu ;)
[20:50] <Renard> dr_willis, thanks, but I'd rather have the user not have any input at that stage anyway :p
[20:50] <g0rs> bobweaver: I'm trying to setup a ipv6 tunnel over ipv4 using a tunnel broker
[20:50] <bobweaver> lol dr_willis
[20:50] <ConGiun> :D
[20:50] <ajp> Renard: you can change the timeout period for grub in the config file
[20:50] <dr_willis> Renard:  you can hide the grub menu so they dont even see it
[20:50] <bazhang> g0rs, ##windows for xp
[20:50] <Renard> I just want the computer to resume booting on its default GRUB option even if it hadn't been properly halted
[20:50] <ConGiun> #ubuntu
[20:50] <dr_willis> ive never noticed grub acting differntly if the pc crashed
[20:51] <g0rs> bazhang: thanks
[20:51] <Renard> It waits for the user input
[20:51] <dr_willis> waits for what input exactly?
[20:51] <Renard> Select a line using the keyboard (so you can select a recovery mode or another kernel, if you wanted to)
[20:53] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever seen it do that.
[20:53] <dr_willis> id bet theres a grub setting to have it not do it. ;)
[20:53] <dr_willis> grub has moer settings then you can shake an OS at..
[20:54] <ajp> in grub config you can change the timeout to 1 second
[20:54] <Renard> Yeah but no
[20:55] <genii-around> Renard: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Timed_Display        edit the /etc/default/grub file then do: sudo update-grub
[20:55] <Renard> Already got a timer
[20:57] <BlackScreen> Hello. My colleague has installed Ubuntu Alternate choosing to put grub on /dev/sda, but upon boot he gets a black screen after holding shift to see 'loading grub'
[20:57] <genii-around> Renard: Near that section of documentation is also the values within that file to hide the grub menu, and other settings.
[20:58] <Renard> But this doesn't change the "failure" behavior
[21:00] <genii-around> Renard: Obviously you didn't look at the documentation in the section just under the section I gave entitled "Last Boot Failed or Boot into Recovery Mode"
[21:00] <penk> hi folks, i need to create a bootable USB stick, but i'm sitting on a mac.  The bootable USB stick is NOT for booting a mac, it'll be for booting a thinkpad laptop.  The docs i found ont he wiki create a .dmg file, and dd that to the USB stick (from the ISO).  since the target machine is not a mac, how do i create a bootable image on the usb stick on the mac?
[21:00] <Renard> Ooh. Shiny. My bad :)
[21:01] <Galvatron> Is there any trick to get rid of the titlebars with close buttuns in the "Scale" mode, seemingly hard-coded into Unity and only slowing the whole thing?
[21:01] <bazhang> penk, from the mac command line?
[21:01] <penk> yea
[21:01] <penk> or, i could do it elsewher.e  i'm not proud :)
[21:02] <bazhang> penk, is that a bash shell? or something different
[21:02] <penk> bash
[21:02] <zizzusu> ciao
[21:02] <Renard> This seems to do the trick indeed. Thanks, genii-around !
[21:03] <ndegruchy> penk: the procedure is the same
[21:03] <ndegruchy> I've created a bunch of Ubuntu bootable USB drives on my mac
[21:03] <penk> except the hditool create a 'dmg' file.  the docs say it should create an img
[21:03] <penk> should i just dd the .dmg file to the device?
[21:03] <genii-around> Renard: You're welcome :-)
[21:03] <penk> adn that'll boot on on a wintel generic laptop?
[21:04] <ndegruchy> yeah, the hditool will often times add a img.dmg file
[21:04] <penk> -rw-r--r--@ 1 dshevett  22323  789884928 Nov 30 15:26 ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso
[21:04] <penk> -rw-r--r--  1 dshevett  22323  789884928 Nov 30 15:57 ubuntu.iso.dmg
[21:04] <penk> okay.  thanks
[21:04] <rosevp> having issues connecting to xdm vir win7 using Xming
[21:04] <rosevp> getting : Hung in XOpenDisplay(192.168.1.6:0), aborting
[21:04] <penk> ndegruchy: do you use /dev/rdisk or /dev/disk ?
[21:04] <penk> there's notes that the rdisk may be faster
[21:05] <ndegruchy> penk: the installer is so small I don't really notice much of a difference
[21:05] <penk> k
[21:05] <ndegruchy> ~700mb transfers fairly fast over usb, but YMMV
[21:05] <penk> trying it now.
[21:06] <ndegruchy> penk: these are the steps I used: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[21:06] <penk> yep
[21:06] <penk> i just got hung up because it jumps to "this is how you boot a mac to run ubuntu'.  thanks :)
[21:06] <ndegruchy> I just stopped before 10
[21:06] <penk> :)
[21:06] <ndegruchy> I actually used that process to build a Kubuntu disk for my desktop at home
[21:07] <ndegruchy> and it seems like the only reliable process for me recently, the Ubuntu Startup Disc creator and the Windows utility never build bootable disks on my machines :\
[21:07] <BlackScreen> Hello. My colleague has installed Ubuntu Alternate choosing to put grub on /dev/sda, but upon boot he gets a black screen after holding shift to see 'loading grub'
[21:07] <pecc> my audio dies randomly when connected to dock, disconnect/reconnect helps every time but only until the next time, audio worked 40 min perfectly when disconnected from dock, after reconnecting failed in 10 min -- anyone have any ideas?
[21:10] <TeraQuibbler> torrents or magnets are faster? i am downloading iso
[21:12] <Guest85346> hello !
[21:12] <Guest85346> i'm i connected to chat now ??
[21:13] <Guest85346> some one can tell Me
[21:13] <Guest85346> suis en ligne ou pas ?
[21:13] <pbxbrian> Guest85346: yes!
[21:13] <Guest85346> salut
[21:13] <Guest85346> pbxbrian: tahkyou
[21:13] <Guest85346> i was thinking that my irc app was in troubble
[21:14] <Guest85346> c'est un champ francais c'est ca
[21:14] <rosevp> can someone help me with connecting to box remotely
[21:15] <matanc_> Hello folks
[21:15] <matanc_> quick question
[21:15] <matanc_> anyone here using vim?
[21:16] <bazhang> matanc_, whats the real question
[21:16] <matanc_> The question is
[21:16] <tre> matanc_: post your Q and just wait if anyone will answer it
[21:16] <matanc_> Why are the movement key prests h,j,k,l
[21:16] <bazhang> matanc_, on ONE Line please
[21:17] <rosevp> question ?
[21:17] <rosevp> xdm
[21:17] <rosevp> help
[21:17] <tre> Does anyone know how to change theme in Lubuntu via terminal (not using lxappearance)?
[21:17] <matanc_> I mean, if you're supposed to put your hand normally on jkl; keys, why shift it one to the left?
[21:19] <trism> matanc_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_keys#HJKL_keys and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Terminal_ADM3A.svg it seems
[21:19] <nardev> is there any peace of software that i can use to listen /dev/ttyACM0 as serial under 9600bps, i need it for arduino app and/or communication with cisco router
[21:21] <pecc> was I silenced? please reply if you can see this
[21:22] <dr_willis> what if we say we cant see it. ;-)
[21:22] <dr_willis> we see you.
[21:23] <pecc> thanks dr_willis, I'll just have to wait for someone then who knows about audio stuff
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> pecc  try #ubuntustudio
[21:24] <Sna4x8> I got an update for linux-image-3.2.0-34 today, and the update is hanging on: Generating grub.cfg ...
[21:24] <pecc> MonkeyDust thank you I will
[21:24] <Sna4x8> Anyone having that issue?
[21:24] <dr_willis> i rarely mess with audio issues
[21:24] <yhusha> does a squashf file ever load in gedit
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> Sna4x8  3.2... that's ubuntu 12.04 ?
[21:24] <ajp> Sna4x8: CLI or GUI?
[21:24] <Sna4x8> Yep.
[21:25] <dr_willis> yhusha: that wouldent make sense
[21:25] <yhusha> to edit it
[21:25] <Sna4x8> ajp: Tried the GUI first when it popped up, then restarted after a few hours and ran apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:25] <Sna4x8> It's been there for a few hours now.
[21:25] <bekks> yhusha: It doesnt make sense to edit a squash fs file.
[21:25] <dr_willis> you dont edit it with a text efitor
[21:25] <dr_willis> in any csde
[21:26] <yhusha> well it was through terminal
[21:26] <ajp> Sna4x8: look for a popup window asking about which grub version you want
[21:26] <dr_willis> yhusha: that wouldent make sense either
[21:26] <bekks> yhusha: Even in a terminal, you do not edit a squash fs file with a text editor.
[21:26] <Sna4x8> ajp: popup from the CLI?
[21:26] <yhusha> gksu gedit /casper/chroot/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper
[21:27] <ajp> Sna4x8: oh i thought GUI, it should ask you about versioning at this point in the grub update me thinks
[21:27] <robottinosino> Is this a bug? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1400458/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1400609/
[21:27] <yhusha> does thhat make since
[21:27] <yhusha> sence
[21:27] <yhusha> sense
[21:27] <yhusha> *
[21:27] <dmitchell> is the right channel to ask what kernel parameters are implied by the recovery parameter? my system only boots if I resume from recovery.
[21:27] <dr_willis> i thought squashfs was read only...
[21:27] <yhusha> hold on
[21:27] <Sna4x8> ajp: It's  stuck at "found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin".
[21:27] <yhusha> wrong line
[21:27] <bekks> yhusha: Thats editing a script, not a squash fs file.
[21:28] <yhusha> never mind
[21:28] <yhusha> got it
[21:28] <ajp> Sna4x8: what happens if you press enter?
[21:28] <Sna4x8> Just newlines.
[21:28] <ajp> Sna4x8: I'm not sure, sorry man
[21:29] <Sna4x8> Okay, thanks for the help anyway!
[21:31] <crow> hello!
[21:31] <dmitchell> can anyone help me with this? it looks like I get a soft lock on normal boot, but if I resume from recovery mode it's OK
[21:32] <dr_willis>  tried  the text mode boot yet?
[21:32] <dr_willis> !text
[21:33] <dmitchell> hi. yes, that's the normal boot. I'm using ubuntu server.
[21:33] <dr_willis> where does it lock up at?
[21:34] <dr_willis> im not aware of recoverymode disabling anything other then x starting
[21:36] <dmitchell> dr_willis: hard to say, unfortunately. it prints a lengthy stack trace that fills the screen. I'll reboot and give you my best guess brb
[21:36] <veryhappy> hi guys, where do i have to go to get hints about networking in ubuntu/linux?
[21:36] <veryhappy> is there anything like #network or #networking?
[21:36] <sabel> I am having some serious trouble with my wireless dongle..i have been working at it for almost 5 hours no to no avail. It is a Netgear WNDA4100
[21:36] <dr_willis> hints?
[21:37] <dr_willis> theres dozens of books and sites on networking
[21:37] <veryhappy> dr_willis: tips
[21:37] <veryhappy> dr_willis i have special questions
[21:38] <dr_willis> yes veryhappy .. care to be more specific. ;-)
[21:38] <arosen> I was wondering if anyone know off hand if ubuntu opensources the spec files that they use to create packages? And if so where I could find them?
[21:38] <veryhappy> dr_willis: for sure i have an own brain to know that there must be books :P
[21:38] <veryhappy> about networking
[21:38] <panic_> Hi. I'm running 12.04 LTS and am currently running the Update Manager.  Howeve,r it appears to have stalled at "Configuring linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic."  When I click details it says it's "run-parts: execuring /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-udpate-grub 3.2.0-34-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-34-generic"  I'm not sure what to do.  I don't want to mess up my kernel.  It's been stuck on this for long enough for me to get concerend, install &
[21:39] <veryhappy> dr_willis: is there any possiblity to change advanced wifi options? i want to change options like cts-to-self to rts/cts and so on.
[21:39] <rosevp> is magic-cookie needed w/ Xming/xdm
[21:39] <yhusha> cant get  nautilus-gksu
[21:39] <sabel> I am having some serious trouble with my wireless dongle..i have been working at it for almost 5 hours no to no avail. It is a Netgear WNDA4100
[21:39] <yhusha> E: Unable to locate package nautilus-gksu
[21:40] <sabel> where can i get the drivers for it...? how can i make it work in ubuntu?
[21:40] <Fried_Chicken> I am having some problems with icaclient.  I found a solution online here: http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=306353&tstart=0  but I can't get it to run dpkg --configure icaclient now
[21:40] <panic_> yhusha: What are you trying to do?  Run nautilus as root?
[21:40] <dr_willis> sabel: what chipset is it using?
[21:40] <Fried_Chicken> I am a new user and am probably doing something super dumb
[21:40] <ClientAlive> I want to do some stuff with compiz but the learning curve seems prohibitively expensive. Does one have to make a career out of learning compiz to enjoy a couple effects here and there?
[21:40] <sabel> dr_willis: one moment let me find out
[21:40] <Fried_Chicken> how do I get the dpkg to run?  I tried the command and sudo
[21:41] <yhusha> yes
[21:41] <blubee> guys ive been googling for a while now and can't find a good answer. Is it possible to have a wine program save files back to a directory local to my ubuntu home directory? If so how can I do that?
[21:41] <dmitchell> ok the last thing I saw was something about 'running /scripts/init-bottom'
[21:41] <gordonjcp> Fried_Chicken: pastebin the command you use and the error you get
[21:41] <gordonjcp> !pastebin | Fried_Chicken
[21:41] <dmitchell> it soft looks soon after
[21:41] <sabel> dr_willis: it uses RAlink chipset
[21:41] <panic_> yhusha: I usually run: gksudo nautilus
[21:42] <guntbert_> dmitchell: what do the logs say? (var/log/syslog)
[21:42] <dr_willis> running nautilus as root can be a bad idea..
[21:42] <dr_willis> bbl.. lunch time
[21:42] <rosevp> can someone direct to a channel for connecting Xwin/xdm
[21:42] <panic_> dr_willis: It can be for sure.  I'm still nto sure what to do aobut this Update Manager being frozen.
[21:43] <sabel> Can anyone help me? im trying to use a Netgear WNDA4100 wireless USB adapter in ubuntu. it uses RAlink chipset. ive been workin on this for nearly 6 hours now and would greatly appreciate some help.
[21:43] <dmitchell> guntbert_: well I'm not sure how to check the logs. the system doesn't seem to finish booting, it just goes into a loop printing a stack trace every few seconds
[21:43] <Fried_Chicken> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1400658/
[21:43] <yhusha> how to unmount a directory
[21:44] <watussi_> hi
[21:44] <dmitchell> if I reboot via recovery->resume, will there be logs saved from the failed boot?
[21:44] <almoxarife> sabel: look at 'nidiswrapper' for an answer to your problem
[21:45] <guntbert_> dmitchell: now I am a little confused - didn't you say that the system resumes fine from a suspend? how do you get to that state?
[21:45] <sabel> almoxarife: Id like to use that..but there are no stand alone drivers to download...i cant exactly use the disk either. it only comes with an EXE
[21:45] <guntbert_> almoxarife: s/ndis/nidis/
[21:45] <dmitchell> no, what I meant is that I can only boot the system by booting into recovery mode and choosing resume
[21:45] <yhusha> made a directory /mnt/iso/ and mounted it but cant unmount to delete it
[21:46] <almoxarife> sabel: what comes via .exe?
[21:46] <llutz> yhusha: sudo umount /mnt/iso
[21:46] <panic_> Update issue Frozen: I'm running 12.04 LTS and am currently running the Update Manager.  Howeve,r it appears to have stalled at "Configuring linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic."  When I click details it says it's "run-parts: execuring /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-udpate-grub 3.2.0-34-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-34-generic"  I'm not sure what to do.  I don't want to mess up my kernel.  It's been stalled on this step at least 20 minutes or so.
[21:46] <sabel> almoxarife: whatcha mean? its an installer ment to be run on windows..i can start it in wine but it crashes. ive scoured the web for the stand alone driver without an installer and there is none to be found.
[21:47] <kristenbb> hi, I'd like to find all files in a folder (and subfolders) that have read access to everyone, and change it to read and write for me only. Please confirm this is it:          find . -type f -perm 444 -exec chmod 600 '{}' \;
[21:47] <yhusha>  sudo unmount /mnt/iso/
[21:47] <yhusha> sudo: unmount: command not found
[21:47] <panic_> yhusha:  umount
[21:48] <llutz> yhusha: sudo umount /mnt/iso            read again
[21:48] <guntbert_> dmitchell: I see - well boot into recovery and check the logs from there ?
[21:48] <yhusha> haha
[21:48] <rosevp> can someone help with my xming/xdm issue?
[21:49] <dmitchell> I was trying to find out what exactly the "recovery" kernel parameter does. I figure it's disabling some kernel features. if I knew what it disabled, that would be a clue to my problem.
[21:49] <dmitchell> guntbert_: hang on, I'll check
[21:51] <watussi_> I use a screen for monitoring and I search a soft to change webpage every 10 seconds
[21:51] <watussi_> do you have an idea ?
[21:53] <rosevp> xdm help?
[21:53] <buar> people, who can help with driver for printer canon pixma 1800?
[21:54] <BlackScreen> Hello. My colleague has installed Ubuntu Alternate choosing to put grub on /dev/sda, but upon boot he gets a black screen after holding shift to see 'loading grub'
[21:55] <brutal_chaos> so I am trying to install video-ati:i386 and ubuntu seems to be missing packages. Package 'keyboard-configuration:i386' has no installation candidate
[21:55] <brutal_chaos> what am I to do?
[21:59] <bmartin4> brutal_chaos: it's just keyboard-configuration drop the i386 part.
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> !info keyboard-configuration | brutal_chaos
[22:00] <force> hello
[22:01] <Inumedia> I'm running 12.10 server, and can't seem to get eth0 working at all.  Boot waits for 120 seconds for network config and then continues on.  Tried doing ifup eth0 and it fails, can anyone help me fix this issue?  I have it running in a VM (Oracle VirtualBox)
[22:02] <force> Kuwait Ubuntu mirror : ubuntu.qualitynet.net is not working and terminate download session if we downloaded only 23MB
[22:03] <Catbuntu> Hey
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> Inumedia  in the vbox settings, try changing NAT to bridged
[22:03] <Inumedia> Tried
[22:04] <Inumedia> I've tried booting with NAT, Bridged to host eth adapter, bridged to host wifi adapter, and host-only
[22:04] <Inumedia> None work
[22:05] <brutal_chaos> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/3a2nMax1
[22:05] <brutal_chaos> i can't drop the :i386
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> Inumedia  try virtualbox-OSE from the repos
[22:05] <Inumedia> OSE?
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> !info virtualbox-ose > Inumedia
[22:07] <Inumedia> apt-get install virtualbox-ose?
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> Inumedia  it's what I use for both windows and linux guests
[22:07] <brutal_chaos> !info keyboard-configuration:i386
[22:07] <brutal_chaos> !info keyboard-configuration:amd64
[22:07] <brutal_chaos> hmmmm
[22:07] <panic_> Is it spammy if I post my question again?  May I?
[22:07] <Inumedia> How am I to apt-get if I can't get network connectivity? :P
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> brutal_chaos  without :386 or :64
[22:07] <bekks> Inumedia: There is no vbox-ose anymore, since version 4.0
[22:08] <brutal_chaos> MonkeyDust: I can't
[22:08] <brutal_chaos> MonkeyDust:http://pastebin.com/3a2nMax1
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> !info keyboard-configuration | brutal_chaos
[22:08] <brutal_chaos> MonkeyDust:http://pastebin.com/3a2nMax1
[22:08] <Jackyzgood> salut
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> brutal_chaos  try sudo apt-get -f install
[22:09] <guntbert_> panic_: repeating your question every 10-15 minutes is quite ok
[22:09] <Jackyzgood> j'ai un soucis avec un pc portable et des cartes graphiques hybride intel/amd
[22:09] <Inumedia> Would changing the mac address to the adapter cause this?
[22:09] <bekks> !fr | Jackyzgood
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> Inumedia  what bekks says, i installed vbox-ose, both it doesnt say ose in 'about', it's oracle
[22:10] <bekks> Inumedia: Yes.
[22:10] <panic_> Update issue Frozen: I'm running 12.04 LTS and am currently running the Update Manager.  Howeve,r it appears to have stalled at "Configuring linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic."  When I click details it says it's "run-parts: execuring /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-udpate-grub 3.2.0-34-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-34-generic"  I'm not sure what to do.  I don't want to mess up my kernel.  It's been stalled on this step at least 20 minutes or so.
[22:10] <Inumedia> bekks: Do you know the solution off hand? :D
[22:10] <brutal_chaos> MonkeyDust: nope
[22:10] <brutal_chaos> didn't work
[22:11] <gordonjcp> panic_: don't worry too much
[22:11] <bekks> Inumedia: Yes. :D Remove the line with the wrong (the old one) MAC from /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot
[22:11] <gordonjcp> panic_: it won't remove your existing kernel
[22:11] <panic_> gordonjcp:  Should I xkill?  It's been sitting like this for about an hour.
[22:11] <gordonjcp> panic_: does it respond to <ctrl-c>
[22:11] <gordonjcp> ?
[22:11] <Inumedia> I'll test and report back as soon as it finishes booting
[22:12] <panic_> gordonjcp:  No, it doesnt appear to.
[22:12] <Chegy> need some advice regarding wn-370usb wireless card to install on bt5 r3
[22:12] <panic_> gordonjcp:  As a note i'm using the GUI as opposed to apt-get update/upgrade
[22:12] <Inumedia> bekks: Would it be safe to just remove all of the lines?
[22:12] <gordonjcp> panic_: well, kill it, and try doing it from a terminal and see if that gives you more information
[22:12] <panic_> gordonjcp: Ty will do.
[22:13] <buar> people, who can help with driver for printer canon pixma 1800?
[22:13] <Chegy> anyone
[22:13] <bekks> Inumedia: No.
[22:13] <Inumedia> Oh.
[22:13] <Inumedia> Well I did.
[22:13] <Inumedia> And it worked.
[22:13] <Inumedia> :P
[22:13] <FloodBot1> Inumedia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:14] <Inumedia> Bekks: thanks! :D
[22:14] <guntbert_> !please | Chegy
[22:14] <Chegy> who is good here with driver support?
[22:14] <bekks> Inumedia: You're welcome :)
[22:14] <dr_willis> buar:  checked the linux-printing.org and cups.org site to see how well that printer is supported?
[22:15] <ashleyludlow> depends on the driver
[22:15] <bekks> Chegy: Another poll? What can we win in the lottery then? :)
[22:15] <guntbert_> Chegy: be patient please
[22:15] <ashleyludlow> chegy what are you trying to install?
[22:15] <buar> dr_willis? i will try it
[22:17] <ashleyludlow> or..not....
[22:17] <dr_willis> ;)
[22:18] <dsaj> I follow the instruction here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7221757/run-automatically-program-on-startup-under-linux-ubuntu to run a program at startup, however when I run "update-rc.d /etc/init.d/test_code defaults", it outputs "update-rc.d: /etc/init.d//etc/init.d/test_code: file does not exist". What do I type wrong?
[22:18] <ashleyludlow> ?
[22:18] <lupin3> ciao
[22:18] <lupin3> !list
[22:18] <Sna4x8> dsaj: update-rc.d test_code defaults
[22:18] <ashleyludlow> cya l8TR
[22:18] <dr_willis> lupin3:  you list every random channelyou join?
[22:19] <panic_> gordonjcp: After figuring out how to unlock the dpkg(?) I ran update, was insturcted to do dpkg --configure -a, did, and I think it fixed the issue.  I just ran update, and I'm about to do upgrade.  Thank you!
[22:19] <dsaj> Sna4xB: thank you
[22:19] <Sna4x8> update-rc.d will look for files in /etc/init.d
[22:19] <panic_> gordonjcp:  Sweet! Everything is good again! Thank you very very much!
[22:20] <ashleyludlow> ok so im gonna sound like a total noob but wtf is !list ?
[22:20] <panic_> I think i'm going to be doing my updates via the terminal from now on.
[22:20] <dr_willis> ashleyludlow:  warez channels  often use it for a list of files.
[22:21] <dr_willis> ashleyludlow:  and it seems theres a dozen people commingin here daily doing Caio, !listing, then exiting...
[22:21] <micah_> can anyone help me with 9.04 ubuntu wifi?
[22:22] <ashleyludlow> and btw i work in a network admin section of the military and we still us bt4 ......and about 5 months ago we were still useing 3. sometimes the newest shit isnt always the best. its like carsah
[22:22] <ikonia> 9.04 is dead sadly
[22:22] <guntbert_> ashleyludlow: and we thank you for not using (even obfuscated) swearwords in here :)
[22:22] <ashleyludlow> SORRY
[22:22] <micah_> so it wont work at all?
[22:22] <ashleyludlow> that was ment for another chat
[22:22] <ashleyludlow> im still getin sed to irssi
[22:22] <ikonia> yeah right
[22:23] <lindenle_> HI guys, just got a kernel update and the depmod command has been runnign for about 4 hours now without completion at or above 80% of my cpu. Is this a known issue?
[22:23] <Sna4x8> lindenle_: Same here.
[22:23] <ikonia> lindenle_: what module are you trying to load ?
[22:24] <lindenle_> ikonia: run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 3.2.0-34-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-34-generic
[22:24] <brutal_chaos> does 12.04 support having both video-ati i386 and amd64, aka multilib?
[22:24] <lindenle_> ikonia: seems to be just the kernel package
[22:24] <gordonjcp> panic_: cool, glad to hear it
[22:24] <ikonia> lindenle_: so it's actually the update process that's failing/hanging rather than a depmod for a specific module/boot
[22:25] <lindenle_> ikonia: http://pastie.org/5460298
[22:25] <lindenle_> ikonia: it seems so....
[22:25] <ikonia> lindenle_: depmod completed
[22:25] <ikonia> oops, depmod completed
[22:25] <ikonia> it's not depmod that's handing
[22:25] <ikonia> hanging
[22:26] <lindenle_> well the depmod process is still running if I do ps aux
[22:26] <ikonia> according to that output, it's completed and moved onto updating the init ram fs and then what ever is in the post script
[22:27] <ikonia> lindenle_: do you have any 3rd party modules installed ? nvidia, vbox, vmware etc ?
[22:27] <lindenle_> maybe vbox, let me check
[22:27] <Sna4x8> Hrm, mine's been hunger there for many hours too - I have vbox as well...
[22:28] <lindenle_> yeah I have virtualbox installed
[22:28] <ikonia> maybe worth looking at that
[22:29] <brutal_chaos> does 12.04 support having both video-ati i386 and amd64, aka multilib?
[22:29] <Sna4x8> ikonia: Just rmmod vboxdrv temporarily?
[22:29] <ikonia> Sna4x8: not sure if that's a wise move, but possibly yes
[22:29] <ikonia> brutal_chaos: what are you trying to achieve ?
[22:30] <ikonia> brutal_chaos: your xorg will be 64bit, so it will use 64bit modules
[22:30] <ikonia> your kernel is also 64 bit
[22:30] <ashleyludlow> so i have a question of my own, i just updated my lubuntu install, and i saw it updated tpb (think pad buttons). it used to display a little blue bar across my screen for volume and mute, but its gone now... any ideas what i could do?
[22:30] <lindenle_> Snax48: let me know if that works OK
[22:30] <ikonia> ashleyludlow: log a bug
[22:31] <ikonia> ashleyludlow: if an update has killed it, log a bog
[22:31] <ikonia> bug
[22:31] <Sna4x8> lindenle_: I just killed the update, did an rmmod on vbox*, and did a dpkg --configure -a .... Looks like it's hanging, but I'll give it a bit
[22:31] <redheat> folks, I'm using the new Ubuntu 12.10, and I followed the following on how to install a ATI driver for my HP touchsmart tm-2 intel duo-core laptop, anyhow, it went smoothly, but right after that..I decided to uninstall it..
[22:31] <redheat> so I did..
[22:31] <redheat> http://www.my-guides.net/en/guides/linux/394-how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy-drivers-in-ubuntu-1210
[22:32] <redheat> and that is the page that I'm talking about..
[22:32] <redheat> anyhow...
[22:32] <ikonia> why do people use these guides
[22:32] <ikonia> they are just written by "anyone"
[22:32] <ashleyludlow> no the buttons still work, and i reinstalled the previous version its it not displaying. im quite honestly at a loss of where to start if i did want to log a bug..
[22:32] <redheat> no..this is a really good guide on how to run legacy ati drivers
[22:32] <ikonia> there is a whole wiki of ubuntu specific and approved documentation
[22:32] <ikonia> redheat: it's not good...as you're having problems with it
[22:33] <redheat> I'm havinga problem with it because it doesn't work with hybrid, that is AMD/intel, graphic cards..
[22:33] <ikonia> redheat: right....so it's not a good guide
[22:33] <ikonia> so then you're at fault
[22:33] <ikonia> or you're using it for something it's not meant to be used for
[22:33] <dr_willis> i would think you would want the latest/cutting edge for  a hybrid chipset.
[22:34] <redheat> anyhow when I log back in I get a black screen, but I still hear everything in the background, I even wrote down my username and password blindly, and I could hear the
[22:34] <redheat> yeah
[22:34] <redheat> login sound..what I want right now is to restore my Xserver..that's all..
[22:35] <Sna4x8> lindenle_: Bleh, still hung - I'm going to try to reboot and try again.
[22:35] <redheat> I mean the system is working fine, but the Xserver is just..plain PitchBlack
[22:35] <lindenle_> Snax48: i was just trying to update spotify when this started happening... no tunes, no tunes!
[22:35] <ikonia> redheat: drop it back to vesa
[22:35] <redheat> how?..
[22:35] <redheat> that's the question..
[22:35] <ikonia> redheat: boot into single user mode, change the xorg.conf
[22:36] <lindenle_> man I have too many kernels installed
[22:36] <lindenle_> time to clean up
[22:36] <redheat> ok..that's a little bit above my pedigree, what's a single user mode?..and how do I change the xorg.conf
[22:36] <ikonia> sadly, at that point I'm going to back away and get on with some other things
[22:37] <dr_willis> !single
[22:37] <redheat> wait, I am the only user, I don't
[22:37] <dr_willis> could use text mode also.
[22:37] <dr_willis> single user mode boot straight to a shell. similer to recovery mode.
[22:37] <magma> hi. I have some webserver running on my machine. How can I detect which process is opening port 80?
[22:37] <dr_willis> text mode goes to a shell/login screen. does not run X.
[22:37] <redheat> dr_willis, how to use command line, should I go into recovery mode..
[22:37] <lindenle_> magma: netstat
[22:38] <redheat> dr_willis, I should boot into recovery mode and choose which option
[22:38] <dr_willis> redheat:  you could try hiting alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 and see if those get you to a console
[22:38] <dr_willis> I tend to just use 'text' mode
[22:38] <dr_willis> !text
[22:38] <redheat> while I'm at the login screen?
[22:38] <magma> lindenle_: it does not show any port opened
[22:38] <force> /
[22:38] <redheat> dr_willis should
[22:39] <redheat> I do that while I'm at the login window, or during the startup?..in any case what should I write, the xorg.conf..how do I restore it to vesa
[22:39] <lindenle_> magma: netstat -pa
[22:39] <dr_willis> sometimes the ati drivers ive seen mess up the consoles. in that case, the single/text/recovery mode would let you get logged into a console.
[22:40] <redheat> ok, what should I write?
[22:40] <dr_willis> after the system boots.. alt-crtl-FX to get to consoles.
[22:40] <dr_willis> No idea what needs to go in the xorg.conf
[22:40] <redheat> ok..
[22:40] <jklaz> what about configuring it via live-cd
[22:40] <redheat> how do I do that? jklaz?
[22:41] <redheat> I already have a livecd on my usb stick? and I can do it..
[22:41] <jklaz> boot the live-cd instaed of logging into single user mode
[22:41] <redheat> ok
[22:41] <RickZilla> Ok, I've made up my mind. I'm devoting 40G or so of my laptop to an ubuntu install...some apps just thrive more in that environment.
[22:41] <magma> is this tcp        0      0 *:http                  *:*                     LISTEN
[22:41] <dr_willis> be faster to use singlke user mode. ;) would boot faster
[22:41] <jklaz> then in terminal type sudo nautilus in order to be able to change everything
[22:41] <dr_willis> then he could test in single user mode with 'startx'
[22:42] <redheat> ok, but do you guys have any idea on how to restore to vesa..?
[22:42] <redheat> I just need to know how?
[22:42] <dr_willis> remove the drivers you installed perhaps
[22:42] <Sna4x8> lindenle_: So, I did a /etc/init.d/vboxdrv stop, then a dpkg --configure -a (that hung).  I rebooted, and did /etc/init.d/vboxdrv stop again.
[22:42] <force> how can we fuck qualitynet.net that bad company has bad support for downloading ubuntu mirror?
[22:42] <redheat> I did?
[22:43] <Sna4x8> dpkg was already running in the background.
[22:43] <magma> lindenle_: help me to kill this bastard
[22:43] <dr_willis> redheat:  you said you followd some guide to install the legacy drivers i thoght
[22:43] <redheat> I did dr_willis, I already uninstalled all of them, ..
[22:43] <pecc> good folks of #ubuntu, "cannot submit urb (err = -27)" randomly when dock is connected, can you figure out what's causing this and/or how to fix it?
[22:43] <Sna4x8> And it seems to be updated now according to uname.
[22:43] <jklaz> what resolution do you want?
[22:43] <lindenle_> magma: i am pretty sure netstat must be showing something
[22:43] <redheat> yeah, and there was a purge command that uninstalls the ppa, and along with it the driver..
[22:43] <redheat> http://www.my-guides.net/en/guides/linux/394-how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy-drivers-in-ubuntu-1210
[22:43] <gordonjcp> pecc: that's probably going to take a bit more context to solve
[22:43] <redheat> give it a look?
[22:44] <redheat> any?
[22:44] <dr_willis> redheat:  then it should be defaulting back to the xorg radeon drivers, unless xorg.conf is incorrect. You could just rename your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.OLD
[22:44] <force> fuck you guys no one answer to me?
[22:45] <redheat> how to do I do that? forgive me I'm still new at linux..so how do I change from this to that..by the way i'm writing from another copy of linux, mint..
[22:45] <lindenle_> magma: sudo netstat -npa | grep tcp | grep ":80"
[22:45] <jklaz> btw  did you saw http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209?
[22:45] <lindenle_> magma: that should narrow it down
[22:45] <redheat> and it is installed on a partition next to ubuntu, so I can access the harddrive, from here..
[22:45] <dr_willis> redheat:  use the shell and with sudo mv foo bar    move the file to some other name
[22:45] <TaZeR> hi i like ubuntu
[22:45] <SolarisBoy> netstat has --tcp also
[22:46] <TaZeR> im using 12.10 x64
[22:46] <lindenle_> magma: ^ See what solarisboy said
[22:46] <redheat> dr_willis, I can do it from here, from mint, and access the partition ubuntu is installed on, and change the xorg.conf..by the way where is xorg.conf located?
[22:46] <pecc> gordonjcp, I've had audio randomly die whenever my lappy is connected to its docking station (my audio output is in that dock) -- disconnect/reconnect dock instantly revives the sound but it'll die soon after -- I checked syslog and "cannot submit urb (err = -27)" is displayed before by USB disconnect/reconnect messages so I'm guessing it has something to do with the audio trouble
[22:46] <SolarisBoy> sudo lsof -i :80 even
[22:46] <bekks> netstat -tulpen or lsof -i :)
[22:46] <magma> lindenle_: cool. I got ~$ sudo netstat -npa | grep tcp | grep ":80" \\ tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1461/apache2
[22:46] <dr_willis> redheat:  mount the ubuntu install use the proper path to the ubuntu installs  whatever/etc/X11/xorg.conf file, or use a file manager running as root.
[22:46] <lindenle_> magma: /etc/init.d/apache stop
[22:47] <jklaz> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:47] <magma> lindenle_: how can I remove it?
[22:47] <magma> I already did sudo apt-get autoremove apache2
[22:47] <lindenle_> sudo apt-get remove apache
[22:47] <magma> ok
[22:47] <magma> let's see
[22:47] <dr_willis> redheat:  you dont even need to be doing it from a differnt install. You should be able to boot the ubuntu install. go to its console. and use the command line to move /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.OLD
[22:47] <gordonjcp> pecc: googling for that exact error message brings up a lot of stuff about problems with usb soundcards
[22:47] <gordonjcp> pecc: but of course you already know that
[22:47] <magma> lindenle_: "Virtual packages like 'apache' can't be removed"
[22:47] <lindenle_> but removing it will not kill the process in memory
[22:48] <bekks> magma: remove apache2 then.
[22:48] <lindenle_> magma: sudo dpkg -l apache | grep 'ii'
[22:48] <magma> lindenle_: but I restarted the system after removing
[22:48] <lindenle_> find out what is installed and then remove it
[22:48] <OerHeks> magma, stop the service first: sudo service apache2 stop . then you are able to remove
[22:48] <lindenle_> magma: why did you restart, this is linux my friend
[22:48] <magma> lindenle_: no output with that command
[22:48] <lindenle_> no need to restart until a kernel update comes along
[22:49] <gordonjcp> pecc: it may be that the sound chip in the docking station isn't well supported
[22:49] <gordonjcp> pecc: a bit of googling suggests that it's something deep and technical in the way that USB communicates
[22:49] <lindenle_> or if you use ksplice you may never have to reboot again
[22:49] <redheat> dr_willis, I just located it on my other partition, but it is telling my I don't have enough permission to do it from this environment..
[22:50] <lindenle_> magma: dpkg -l apache*
[22:50] <lindenle_> magma: if you dont see anything you uninstalled it already
[22:50] <dr_willis> redheat:  that makes sence.. you need to use sudo/root to access/alter the file
[22:50] <pecc> gordonjcp I figured this and am having trouble understanding the discussions I find, they incluse terminology I haven't seen ever  before
[22:50] <gordonjcp> pecc: me too, and I am an audio developer ;-)
[22:50] <jklaz> su
[22:51] <abdostar> Anyone could help me to access a server I just installed over IP address ?
[22:51] <redheat> ok..sorry again, dr_willis, how do I list the devices on my harddisk..I think it was..
[22:51] <redheat> -l
[22:51] <lindenle_> abdostar: ssh <ip_address> ?
[22:51] <pecc> gordonjcp D: I guess... I guess it MIGHT be easier to find a way to connect an audio jack direct to what's left of my motherboard...
[22:51] <magma> lindenle_: "un  apache2               <none>                (no description available)"
[22:51] <abdostar> lindenle_: local IP working, but can use internet IP?
[22:52] <MonkeyDust> abdostar  ssh [user]@[remote IP]
[22:52] <redheat> how to list partitions by the way, dr_willis
[22:52] <lindenle_> magma: you should be good then and netsat should show no more apache on port 80
[22:53] <dr_willis> redheat:  mounted file systems - mount, all partions 'sudo fdisk -l'
[22:53] <magma> I'm going to restart to check if it starts again
[22:53] <dr_willis> the nautilus file manager can show the path to the files. ctrl-l
[22:53] <abdostar> MonkeyDust: Connection time out
[22:54] <lindenle_> magma: the init script should not be there anymore
[22:54] <lindenle_> if you uninstalled it
[22:54] <redheat> ok it's located on /dev/sda2
[22:54] <dr_willis> redheat:  thats not its MOUNTPOINT however..
[22:54] <abdostar> MonkeyDust: do I have to configure my router?
[22:54] <magma> lindenle_: the script is there. And I did "sudo apachectl -k start" and it starts working again
[22:54] <dr_willis> so thats not the path to the file
[22:54] <magma> weird
[22:54] <aah> umm is there a way to increase the RAM without having to reinstall ubuntu?
[22:55] <gordonjcp> pecc: or buy a USB device that's supported?  Behringer UCA202 works well for me, and even has an optical out so I can hook it to my mixer
[22:55] <dr_willis> aah:  increase what ram?
[22:55] <lindenle_> magma: did you install it from source
[22:55] <redheat> so how do I get the mounted point/
[22:55] <lindenle_> magma: which  apachectl
[22:55] <magma> lindenle_: that's something I don't know. It's not my machine :S
[22:55] <aah> dr_willis: ram -- random access memory.  ubuntu's ram.
[22:55] <dr_willis> redheat:  mounted file systems - mount, all partions 'sudo fdisk -l' <--------------- The mount command...
[22:56] <dr_willis> aah:  that makes no sence.. You install more ram into the system and ubuntu will use it.
[22:56] <aah> dr_willis: i'm sorry.  i misspoke.  i meant swap space.
[22:56] <aah> :(
[22:56] <redheat> dr_willis, I know I'm badgering you with this I did, so if I want to browse to that partition,  I can write "cd /dev/sda2" is that correct
[22:56] <dr_willis> aah:  you an easially add more swap partions, or swap files.
[22:56] <dr_willis> !swap | aah
[22:56] <lindenle_> magma: that begs the question "why are you messing with someone else's toys"
[22:57] <dr_willis> redheat:  /dev/XXX is NOT a PATH to  the files.. thats the DEVICE NAME..
[22:57] <aah> thanks dr_willis .. i hope i can do it without having to reinstall ubuntu ..
[22:57] <dr_willis> redheat:  you MOUNT a filesystem to a directory...
[22:57] <pecc> gordonjcp, supported by what? All I need really is just single audios in/out 3,5 mm , and wouldn't like to pay extra for mixer connections/such.
[22:57] <aah> i'll check out that link
[22:57] <magma> lindenle_: because now I'm kind of the administrator of this machine
[22:57] <dr_willis> aah:  err... you can add swap on the fly...
[22:57] <joshts386> Hello
[22:57] <gordonjcp> pecc: supported by ALSA
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> abdostar  yeah, you may have to port forward
[22:57] <dr_willis> aah:  you can add swap partions or swap files all day long if you wanted. ;)
[22:58] <joshts386> I am new to ubuntu and have a few questions
[22:58] <aah> dr_willis: that's heartening to hear .. how do i do it?  using gparted?
[22:58] <dr_willis> aah:  No.. You make a swap file and use the swapon command..
[22:58] <magma> lindenle_: assuming it was not installed through some package repository, can I just delete the init script, so that it does not start on booting^?
[22:58] <redheat> ok..ok..got that..
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> joshts386  just ask your question
[22:59] <dr_willis> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[22:59] <pecc> gordonjcp, ach, yes... thanks for the help, I'll return later if I get stuck again
[22:59] <roasted> hello!
[23:00] <joshts386> first off, when I use the solitaire game that came with the install, sometimes when I x out it will not completly close out and I have to manually restart my computer
[23:00] <roasted> Question - Ubuntu has the two sided snap vertically. Does that feature exist horizontally, though? In this particular machine I'd prefer to do away with the "slide up to maximize" and have an option to slide up to arrange 50% horizontally, and slide another window down to arrange 50% horizontally. Is that possible?
[23:00] <MonkeyDust> joshts386  alt-fs xkill and click on the window
[23:01] <MonkeyDust> joshts386  alt-f2 xkill and click on the window <-- correction
[23:01] <redheat> dr_willis, how to enable root account?
[23:01] <joshts386> i was wondering if anyone could tell me what might be going on when this happens
[23:01] <netmk> !root | redheat
[23:01] <lindenle_> magma: you can but you can also use update-rc.d to tell it to not start
[23:01] <redheat> I was thinking, I can leave this session, login as root, and then manipulate
[23:02] <magma> lindenle_: good. that's what I want :)
[23:02] <joshts386> thanks monkey
[23:02] <redheat> the folder xorg.conf and get over this pain in the butt process
[23:02] <redheat> netmk
[23:02] <joshts386> there is another issue that has plauged me for awhile now
[23:02] <redheat> netmk, how to enable login window in ubuntu..
[23:02] <lindenle_> magma: update-rc.d manages the soft links in the rcX folders that decide what processes to start at any given run level
[23:02] <redheat> and add a root
[23:02] <lindenle_> check the man page
[23:03] <netmk> it's added right after you install.
[23:03] <joshts386> sometimes when my page is loading the screen will go dim and freeze for a few seconds
[23:03] <MonkeyDust> redheat  you cannot add root
[23:03] <lindenle_> Snax48: I killed mine and re-ran dpkg --confiure -a and it finished
[23:04] <joshts386> this has been an issue for a few months
[23:07] <joshts386> excuse me monkeydust
[23:07] <magma> lindenle_:  this is a directory: /var/lib/update-rc.d
[23:07] <joshts386> ?
[23:07] <magma> oh /usr/sbin/update-rc.d
[23:09] <anon2012> ci sono italiani
[23:09] <ColinApplegate> I know English!
[23:09] <ColinApplegate> Sorry :D
[23:09] <joshts386> i have another issue if anyone would be so kind as to help me
[23:10] <hilarie> I don't think this is the right spot for this, but is there any way to make cinnamon fit on my netbook desktop? it goes up to high
[23:10] <ColinApplegate> what's up Josh! I'll give it my best shot.
[23:10] <joshts386> thanks colin
[23:10] <gperales> exit
[23:10] <aznnobless> wow so many people here.
[23:10] <joshts386> my issue is when my page is loading sometimes my screen will dim and freeze for a second or two
[23:11] <ColinApplegate> of course aznnobless, Ubuntu is the greatest Linux distro on Earth!
[23:11] <ColinApplegate> josh: what page? in a web browser?
[23:11] <joshts386> web browser
[23:11] <ColinApplegate> Firefox?
[23:11] <ColinApplegate> all pageS?
[23:11] <joshts386> usualy something like youtube or any pages like that
[23:11] <yhusha> sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso mnt   is to mount a cd if it were on flash drive what might be an alternative
[23:12] <joshts386> firefox
[23:12] <ColinApplegate> sounds like an issue with the flash player
[23:12] <joshts386> it is different on different pages
[23:12] <ColinApplegate> is it only pages that use Flash
[23:12] <SolarisBoy> yhusha: thats to mount a cd image to a loop device for a flash drive simply mount the drive
[23:13] <joshts386> no not just pages that use flash
[23:13] <aznnobless> any developers here?
[23:13] <yhusha> sudo mount -o /dev/sda2/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso mnt   for example
[23:13] <joshts386> sometimes it is facebook and pages like that but it does happen more on pages with flash
[23:13] <SolarisBoy> would mount the iso to mnt (overwriting whats on /mnt) yhusha
[23:14] <aznnobless> I don't like unity.
[23:14] <SolarisBoy> yhusha: well technically i dont think the iso would be on that block device like that either =)
[23:14] <ColinApplegate> Josh: Does your CPU usage spike when this happens? Does the computer become temporarily unresponsive?
[23:14] <magma> lindenle_: thanks for the help. Problem solved :)
[23:14] <joshts386> i have no idea, i just know the page dims and everything freezes for a second
[23:15] <yhusha> am trying to follow this tutorial bt it needs be tuned to 12.04 and flash drive not cd
[23:15] <ColinApplegate> have you tried running Firefox in safe mode?
[23:15] <yhusha> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[23:15] <joshts386> yes i have tried safemode
[23:15] <ColinApplegate> same result?
[23:16] <joshts386> yes
[23:16] <SolarisBoy> yhusha: are you trying to customize a live cd?
[23:16] <yhusha> yes
[23:17] <ColinApplegate> it looks like it's a known bug in 11.04 and nobody has touched it
[23:17] <ColinApplegate> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/800517
[23:17] <yhusha> also using this: sudo mount -o loop /home/user/Desktop/disk1.iso /mnt/disk
[23:17] <SolarisBoy> yhusha: and you are trying on a live usb?
[23:17] <jrib> ColinApplegate: 11.04 isn't supported anymore
[23:17] <joshts386> i am running 12.04
[23:17] <ColinApplegate> jrib: kay! :)
[23:17] <yhusha> well theres a copy of the iso on hdd in /home
[23:18] <yhusha> and on usb
[23:18] <ColinApplegate> i'm just getting back into the linux seen jrib. forgive my ignorance ;)
[23:18] <SolarisBoy> ok you need to mount the iso and then the squashfs in the iso
[23:18] <aznnobless> Isn't it unity problem?
[23:19] <yhusha> not a live usb just a usb with the iso
[23:19] <SolarisBoy> ok so you need to mount the usb first and then mount the iso from there or copy off and then mount the iso
[23:19] <ColinApplegate> well Josh, beats me, man. Sorry. I'm not quite as well versed as a seasoned developer in the OS so my knowledge is limited.
[23:19] <SolarisBoy> the flash drive is just where the iso is at it shouldn't affect anything in that doc your reading
[23:20] <SolarisBoy> where is the usb mounted to on your filesystem yhusha ?
[23:20] <ColinApplegate> man back in the day Jane used to idle here
[23:21] <ColinApplegate> I haven't seen Jane or Mark in years :) Wonder if they even remember me! lol
[23:21] <ColinApplegate> happy Friday everyone! l8r
[23:21] <yhusha> its mounted at /media
[23:22] <yhusha> @ /media/...
[23:23] <Dr_FarFar> Hi All
[23:23] <shadowflee> hey
[23:24] <yhusha> SolarisBoy: @/media/....
[23:26] <ickefes> hi guys. i looked up alsa 1.0.26 and a site said that the changelog was not as exciting as the latest audio updates/features added to kernel. i don't what version of the kernel but do you know what they might be thinking of when they say exciting?
[23:29] <ickefes> anyone have any idea?
[23:29] <bazhang> ickefes, asked in the alsa channel yet?
[23:30] <ickefes> no but i maybe should be doing so. thank you
[23:30] <bazhang> should be #alsa
[23:30] <SolarisBoy> yhusha: ok so load the iso from that path.
[23:30] <ickefes> thank you
[23:31] <fishcooker> i've tried several solution for enabling BT on my asus but it won't work .. fn+ f2 not working, restart bluetooth on /etc/init.d/
[23:31] <fishcooker> install blueman also
[23:31] <fishcooker> doesn't solve the problem
[23:31] <fishcooker> TT
[23:31] <yhusha> so something like sudo mount /media/..../isofile /mnt
[23:32] <recover_ext4> Hi, I need some help. I've tried many tools to recover lost data on an ext4 partition, but its not been possible so far. Most recently I've been tryin photorec, and a few others. I've manged to recover data that existed years ago on the hard drive, but the recent ext4 data hasn't been recovered (from same drive).
[23:32] <sam_nazarko> should i just not use ubuntu? black screen on boot.
[23:32] <sam_nazarko> Jordan_U: are you online
[23:33] <TheLordOfTime> USAArmy1
[23:33] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: Yes.
[23:33] <sam_nazarko> do you remember me?
[23:33] <sam_nazarko> had some questions about lvm and grub you answered
[23:33] <recover_ext4> Anyone know data recovery?
[23:33] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: Sorry but no.
[23:33] <JerryCotton> hi, i installed ubuntu. unfortunatly grub doesnt find my fedora lvm partition. how can i add that partition in the boot menu
[23:33] <Jordan_U> recover_ext4: How was the data lost, and have you now learned your lesson about keeping good backups?
[23:34] <sam_nazarko> Jordan_U: you told me to dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and got me booting. But now I only get a black screen after grub. tried removing the quiet and splash options but nothing
[23:34] <zykotick9> JerryCotton: have you tried running "sudo update-grub" to verify?
[23:34] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: Have you tried nomodeset?
[23:35] <JerryCotton> zykotick does that make sense? i installed ubuntu 5 minutes ago. i thought grub does update at install?
[23:35] <sam_nazarko> can try, any idea what may be causing it
[23:35] <sam_nazarko> 1min jordan_u
[23:35] <sam_nazarko> it worked before so not sure what's up now. all i did was add a serial port
[23:35] <JerryCotton> i cant even see the lvm partition in nautilus
[23:35] <zykotick9> JerryCotton: during install, it's not surprising it didn't get added.  try it, and see if you notice it in the output.
[23:35] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: Do you have the "lvm2" package installed?
[23:35] <recover_ext4> Whats the best data recovery tool for ext4?
[23:35] <JerryCotton> ok
[23:36] <zykotick9> !tab | JerryCotton
[23:37] <sam_nazarko> Jordan_U: nomodeset did not help,
[23:37] <sam_nazarko> black screen but it is getting a signal
[23:37] <JerryCotton> !tab test
[23:37] <JerryCotton> ?
[23:37] <JerryCotton> what do you mean?
[23:37] <JerryCotton> the key itself doesnt do anything
[23:38] <zykotick9> JerryCotton: try zyko<TAB>
[23:38] <JerryCotton> zykotick9:
[23:38] <JerryCotton> ah tx :)
[23:38] <sam_nazarko> I have been trying for 7 days to get ubuntu working now
[23:38] <recover_ext4> Does anyone here know data recovery?
[23:38] <sam_nazarko> I'm not an idiot; and know my way around Linux, so I am starting to think this is the product of a 6-month release cycle
[23:39] <Jordan_U> recover_ext4: We can't help you if you don't answer our quetions. Did you see my questions?
[23:39] <bug-traq> recover_ext4,  what you need to know about data recovery ???
[23:39] <JerryCotton> zykotick9: this is the output of update grub: Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[23:39] <JerryCotton> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[23:39] <JerryCotton> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[23:39] <JerryCotton> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[23:39] <JerryCotton> done
[23:39] <FloodBot1> JerryCotton: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:39] <lindenle_> magma: +1 good work
[23:39] <JerryCotton> dont see if fedora is includet here
[23:39] <alusion> how do I tell ffmpeg to convert .ogg to .gif or something?
[23:40] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: Do you have the "lvm2" package installed?
[23:40] <bekks> alusion: .ogg is a sound file, .gif is a graphics file.
[23:40] <JerryCotton> no think not i just installed ubuntu 2 minutes ago Jordan_U
[23:40] <magma> lindenle_: glad there are guys like you here :)
[23:40] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: sudo apt-get install lvm2
[23:40] <JerryCotton> tx ill try
[23:41] <JerryCotton> after that upgrade grub again?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: Yes.
[23:41] <lindenle_> magma: ythat is why they pay me the big bux :P
[23:42] <JerryCotton> Jordan_U a get a error message. lvm2 not available
[23:42] <JerryCotton> do i need to add a rep for this?
[23:42] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: Please pastebin the exact error message.
[23:42] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: No.
[23:43] <bug-traq> recover_ext4,  try testdisk it is for data recovery on ext4
[23:44] <zykotick9> bug-traq: fyi, photorec is file recovery part of testdisk (which does partition recovery)
[23:45] <bug-traq> zykotick9,  ok ???
[23:45] <zykotick9> bug-traq: they said they'd already tried that...
[23:45] <bug-traq> zykotick9,  testdisk is what i have used and it worked well , just a suggestion  thats all
[23:46] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: Please pastebin the complete output of "sudo LANG=C apt-get install lvm2".
[23:46] <zykotick9> bug-traq: i hear that.  photorec has been a HUGE benefit to me a couple of times ;)
[23:47] <recover_ext4> I've had plenty of luck recovering other partitions with photorec, just haven't managed to recover ext4.
[23:47] <Jordan_U> recover_ext4: How was the data lost, and have you now learned your lesson about keeping good backups?
[23:48] <sam_nazarko> no ideas then jordan_u
[23:48] <JerryCotton> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1400901/
[23:48] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: Does the Ubuntu LiveCD/USB work properly?
[23:48] <bug-traq> recover_ext4, Testdisk will bring back any partitions you accidentally erased or lost. But some data may not come back with the partition. However, you can gain access to that data when the partition table is available again  , this is from the website itself
[23:48] <recover_ext4> For the person who keeps making stupid whisper comments, the data was lost during a backup.
[23:48] <JerryCotton> i have to add the information. this is a fresh ubuntu 12.04. i did do nothing before
[23:49] <sam_nazarko> Yes jordan_u. I had the system booting before, but now all fresh installs are the same
[23:49] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: You definitely should not be getting that output.
[23:50] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: Was it booting before with the same version of Ubuntu? Do you have hybrid graphics?
[23:50] <sam_nazarko> Jordan_U: I am doing this. Netboot, installing to an LVM within RAID1 (mdadm). Grub always fails (installs to /dev/sda), so I chroot in, install to /dev/sdc and /dev/sdc, do dpkg-reconfigure and check /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc as my target drives
[23:50] <sam_nazarko> Integrated graphics, just trying to get a tty, did not install desktop
[23:50] <sam_nazarko> yes, same version
[23:50] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: If the installation is failing at installing grub, there may be steps after that that it's not performing.
[23:51] <JerryCotton> Jordan_U any ideas? :)
[23:51] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update".
[23:51] <sam_nazarko> Jordan_U, after I chroot, I then select 'Finish installation' option in the install and iit goes OK
[23:52] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: Installation to /dev/sda should not fail, even if that's not the drive whose boot sector you want grub installed to, and there should be an option to install grub to a different disk, or skip grub installation entirely.
[23:53] <BlackScreen> Hello. My colleague has installed Ubuntu Alternate choosing to put grub on /dev/sda, but upon boot he gets a black screen after holding shift to see 'loading grub'
[23:53] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: Is there a reason that you need to use the netboot installer?
[23:54] <JerryCotton> Jordan_U http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1400905/
[23:54] <GartimusPrime> hello
[23:54] <Jordan_U> BlackScreen: Does your colleague have more than one hard drive, and is he sure that his firmware is booting from sda?
[23:54] <GartimusPrime> new guy with a stupid question
[23:55] <GartimusPrime> I have a old desktop collecting dust that I decided to install Ubuntu 12.10 on
[23:55] <BlackScreen> Jordan_U: yeah he has two hard drives, would it be best to just disconnect one then install that way
[23:55] <GartimusPrime> installation went great\
[23:55] <sam_nazarko> Jordan_U: I tried alternate disc, but only ever had luck with the netboot
[23:56] <GartimusPrime> but now I have just a black screen with mouse pointer
[23:56] <GartimusPrime> any suggestions?
[23:57] <bug-traq> GartimusPrime,  i still get a black screen with mouse pointer , if i have my ext. harddrive or phone in the usb upon boot
[23:57] <fishcooker> recover_ext4: afaik photorec still the best sorry
[23:57] <Jordan_U> BlackScreen: The issue isn't so much when installing, it's when booting with two drives in the computer. Right now only sda has a valid bootloader on it, so if the computer boots from the other drive (with a broken old grub install) booting will fail. You can install grub to both drives, so that it doesn't matter which drive the firmware tries to boot from.
[23:57] <fishcooker> why you dont fat.ing your drive ..
[23:57] <fishcooker> there is get data back
[23:57] <fishcooker> in windows
[23:57] <GartimusPrime> all I have is mouse and ir device
[23:57] <fishcooker> :cheers:
[23:57] <bug-traq> GartimusPrime, all i have to do is unplug the ext. hd drive or phone and hit enter and it boots
[23:58] <GartimusPrime> hmm
[23:58] <Jordan_U> recover_ext4: Can you be more specific about how the data was lost? How it was lost makes a huge difference when it comes to recovering it.
[23:58] <GartimusPrime> I have no ext. hd
[23:59] <GartimusPrime> maybe my pc is too old?
[23:59] <BlackScreen> Jordan_U: how would i install grub on both via ubuntu server install?
[23:59] <OpenSorce> What's the channel for steam on linux?