[02:09] <mspencer> Hi, I'm trying to report a bug in Nautilus running on raring. I ran ubuntu-bug -w and clicked on the desktop, and got the message "This is not an official Ubuntu package" What is wrong?
[02:11] <mspencer> The version of nautilus shown by apt-cache is 1:3.6.3-0ubuntu2
[04:03] <dlbike76> Hi any experienced triagers online?
[04:07] <dlbike76> Anyone from bugcontrol online?
[04:11] <dlbike76> I think bug 1029212 should have "low" importance due to an easy work around.
[04:11] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1029212 in lubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "System Profiler and Benchmark 2 blank gui boxes closing the small one results in the system info to be displayed." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029212
[04:12] <dlbike76> Could I get someone from bug control to set the importance for me, if you agree with the "low" setting.
[04:21] <hggdh> dlbike76: I will, but one of the developers already has the bug on their radar
[04:24] <hggdh> dlbike76: importance set to low for the hardinfo task. For the lubuntu-artwork, only someone from lubuntu can state what would be the importance
[04:25] <dlbike76> hggdh:  Thanks.  I saw where some developers had commented, but the bug wasn't assigned to anyone, so I wasn't sure if anyone was looking at it.
[04:26] <hggdh> dlbike76: I understand. But I am not involved with Lubuntu, so I cannot say anything about their processes
[04:26] <dlbike76> dlbike76: I understand.
[04:27] <dlbike76> hggdh: thanks, I understand.
[04:27] <hggdh> yw
[04:29] <dlbike76> hggdh: Are there any plans to start up the mentoring program again?
[04:30] <hggdh> dlbike76: I do not think so. It simply did not work, people would come in and expect full attention and holding hands
[04:31] <hggdh> dlbike76: but there is always a lot of experienced people in this channel, so asking is (almost) guaranteed to get an answer. Eventually
[04:33]  * hggdh goes to bed
[04:33] <dlbike76> hggdh: Goodnight.  And thanks again.
[04:55] <dlbike76> ls
[04:55] <dlbike76> cd ..
[04:55] <dlbike76> ls
[04:56]  * dlbike76 is asleep
[04:56] <dlbike76> ^ Sorry
[04:57]  * dlbike76 thinks he shouldn't run a client that looks like a terminal.
[05:10] <gnomefreak> can someone test a bug for me on 13.04. apport crashes when i try to file a bug on Unity
[05:11] <gnomefreak> using ubuntu-bug
[12:20] <Walther> Hello folks! Someone should probably look into this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-experimental-310/+bug/1085044
[12:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1085044 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-experimental-310 (Ubuntu) "nvidia-experimental-310 does not provide nvidia-current" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[12:20] <Walther> I'm willing to help as far as I can
[12:20] <Walther> that affects at least quantal and raring, probably precise as well
[12:28] <yofel> Walther: I see nvidia-current in the list of packages provided by nvidia-experimental-310 for quantal and raring, so the issue is probably something else
[12:34] <yofel> Walther: what you could do is try to install both, pass '-o debug::pkgproblemresolver=yes' to apt-get and attach the output to the bug. That should give enough information to find out why it tries to remove one of them
[12:38] <Walther> the output is too long for scrollback and appending ' > output' only writes the last lines, not entire debug to output file, what to do?
[12:41] <yofel> Walther: ' &> output' to also redirect stderr
[12:50] <Walther> output added, sorry for delay
[12:58] <Walther> Any ideas how to proceed?
[13:07] <Walther> Uhh, apt-cache show nvidia-experimental-310 outputs among other things:
[13:07] <Walther> Conflicts: fglrx, fglrx-updates, nvidia-173, nvidia-173-updates, nvidia-180-modaliases, nvidia-185-modaliases, nvidia-96, nvidia-96-updates, nvidia-current, nvidia-current-modaliases, nvidia-current-updates
[13:07] <Walther> while it also: Provides: fglrx, fglrx-updates, nvidia-173, nvidia-173-updates, nvidia-96, nvidia-96-updates, nvidia-current, nvidia-current-updates, xorg-driver-video
[13:07] <Walther> doesn't make much sense
[13:07] <penguin42> huh - why would it provide an fglrx ?
[13:09] <Walther> and it Conflicts with nvidia-current, even though it should provide it
[13:13] <Walther> so yeah, what next to get this solved? I want the improved drivers :P
[13:26] <Walther> someone should probably notify the person who is responsible for packaging it
[15:26] <hggdh> nvidia-experimental replaces nvidia-current
[15:26] <hggdh> (I know, at least empirically, I am running it)
[15:28] <hggdh> huh, this is valid on Raring, not sure about previous versions
[15:29] <hggdh> the only conflicts I see here is againt nvidia-experimental-310:i386 (which makes absolute sense, since I am running amd64)
[15:50] <jibel> Walther, the problem here I guess is that bumblebee depends on nvidia-current [ i386 ] < 304.51.really.304.43-0ubuntu2 but nvidia-experimental-310 provides nvidia-current 310.14-0ubuntu2
[15:51] <jibel> so you need a version of bumblebee compatible with version 310.14-0ubuntu2 of the driver
[15:56] <amonakov> jibel: hello, I gather you were just talking with Walther about bumblebee - nvidia-current dependency issues
[15:56] <amonakov> you said, 17:50:58 < jibel> Walther, the problem here I guess is that  bumblebee depends on nvidia-current [ i386 ] <  304.51.really.304.43-0ubuntu2 but  nvidia-experimental-310 provides nvidia-current  310.14-0ubuntu2
[15:57] <amonakov> where did you get that "<  304.51.really.304.43-0ubuntu2" dependency, nvidia-bumblebee package does not have anything like that
[16:00] <jibel> amonakov, line 88 of the log attached by Walther Broken bumblebee-nvidia:i386 Depends on nvidia-current [ i386 ] < 304.51.really.304.43-0ubuntu2 > ( restricted/misc ) (>= 260.19.12~)
[16:02] <amonakov> hm, are you sure it's a less-than dependency? looks like just <> brackets
[16:04] <amonakov> yeah, looking at other lines of the log I'd say it definitely the opening angle bracket, not a "less-than" indicator
[16:09] <jibel> amonakov, heh, you're right, re-reading the logs
[16:49] <jibel> ok, so, nvidia-experimental-310 provides the virtual package nvidia-current but there is a real package with this name and the depends on nvidia-current in bumblebee-nvidia is versioned
[16:49] <jibel> which means that only real packages will be considered for dependency resolution in this case nvidia-current 304.51.really.304.43-0ubuntu2
[16:50] <jibel> and it cannot be installed together with -experimental because of the conflict
[16:51] <jibel> a way to fix this would be to remove the constraint on the version in bumblebee-nvidia
[16:54] <amonakov> jibel: do you have a voice in ubuntu nvidia drivers packaging?
[16:55] <jibel> amonakov, no, you'll find nvidia packagers on #ubuntu-x
[16:56] <Walther> got to love the diversity of everything :D different people in different channels, no central way of reporting things... understandable though, big system, plenty of devs
[16:57] <amonakov> no, the central way of reporting issues is launchpad
[16:57] <Walther> true
[17:58] <hggdh> and there is no many different things that it makes sense to have expert channels
[18:06] <Walther> indeed, like i said, it makes sense
[18:07] <Walther> however I doubt it makes it any more efficient :/