[02:57] <jbicha> yay, now we have 20 MATE "needs-packaging" bugs
[03:19] <achiang> hello, how does one recover from trying to install bad packages using dpkg -i ?
[03:20] <achiang> like, dpkg -i <foo> won't install due to broken or missing deps... is there a way to say, "ok, i take it back" ?
[03:24] <jbicha> achiang: if you didn't --force it and it didn't install then I don't think there is anything to take back; otherwise you can apt-get remove
[03:24]  * achiang admits to trying --force-all :-/
[03:24] <achiang> on libgtk2.0 :(
[03:27] <jbicha> friendly advice: don't do that next time :)
[03:29] <jbicha> apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0 will tell you what versions are available and then you can apt-get install libgtk2.0-0=2.24.13-0ubuntu2 to get the version you actually want
[03:30] <achiang> trying that now
[03:33] <achiang> woof, that was not fun, but i seem to be ok now
[12:24] <jtaylor> xnox: how often are adt tests imported to jenkins?
[14:24] <jtaylor> bug 1085082 can be synced, forgot to check if its main before test building it ._.
[15:22] <jtaylor> and the price for most horrendous autopkgtest goes to ... this piece of junk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402210/
[15:22] <jtaylor> but it works :) (if mongodb doesn'T decide to thrash the machine)
[16:28] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: done
[16:29] <jtaylor> your a coredev now? :O
[16:30] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: I got tired of paperwork a few months ago, and applied
[17:26] <jtaylor> does someone have a script to check if any package links against a certain symbol?
[17:37] <jtaylor> came up with this, suggestions welcome http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402543/
[17:46] <ScottK> Seems like a general problem that it'd be nice to have a solution to in devscripts/u-d-t.
[17:47] <jtaylor> yes
[17:47] <jtaylor> including a database of required symbols somewhere
[17:47] <jtaylor> as you usually can't install all rdeps at once :/
[17:48] <ScottK> Would it be easier to download source and search that?
[17:48] <jtaylor> if macros or c++ is involved that gets difficult
[17:49] <jtaylor> is there a tool to download debs?
[17:49] <jtaylor> pull-lp-debs <source-name>
[17:51] <ScottK> Not AFAIK.
[18:30] <jtaylor> someone know where the official place to search for fedora rpm specs?
[18:31] <jtaylor> i just find random rpm searches that give all kind of results
[19:08] <ScottK> There's a fedora git for such things.  I don't recall the location.
[19:26] <alo21> hi... can someone help me merging a package?
[19:36] <alo21> afk
[19:49] <bobweaver> alo21,  I can give some help what are you trying to to do ? what packages ect
[19:50] <bobweaver> or are you looking for someone to look at a proposal ?
[20:50] <alo21> bobweaver, I'm trying to merge doc-debian..
[20:50] <alo21> here is the makefike: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1397706/
[20:51] <alo21> rule: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1397802/
[20:51] <alo21> and build log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1397805/
[20:52] <bobweaver> I am not the person for that one others will see though alo21
[21:39] <xnox> jtaylor: there is a trigger job, that picks up the adt tests. So the source package must be fully packaged and available on the mirrors and then after ~1h delay it should be picked up by jenkins.
[21:39] <xnox> jtaylor: which package are you after?
[21:39] <xnox> (there are some further delays for jenkins to run the job and mirror it to the public instance....)
[21:40] <jtaylor> xnox: foolscap
[21:42] <xnox> jtaylor: that will never be picked up, as the package doesn't declare to have any tests.
[21:43] <jtaylor> whats missing?
[21:43] <xnox> jtaylor:  XS-Testsuite: autopkgtest in debian/control
[21:43] <xnox> jtaylor: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep8/ see current specification link from there.
[21:44] <jtaylor> must have missed that, thanks
[22:08] <jtaylor> is network allowed during autopkgtests?
[22:09] <xnox> jtaylor: define network.
[22:09] <jtaylor> load stuff from the outside net
[22:10] <xnox> jtaylor: define outside net. There are packages that start a webserver on the localhost and put files there and then exercise "over the network" in the package.
[22:10] <jtaylor> network that is not localhost
[22:10] <xnox> jtaylor: dep8 is ambigious about this. In practice you do have internet connection to ubuntu archive in jenkins as run in our lab.
[22:11] <xnox> jtaylor: can you please tell me what you actually want to test?
[22:12] <jtaylor> e.g. a package reads stuff from yahoo to test if that works
[22:12] <xnox> jtaylor: think about it - doing test $ ping www.google.com is not good, in case google.com goes down & is unreachable. And that does not mean that test is flawed.
[22:12] <jtaylor> I know
[22:12] <jtaylor> but probably the spec should be ambigous about this
[22:13] <jtaylor> there are plenty upstream tests that phone out
[22:13] <xnox> jtaylor: oh, the primary use case for the package to scrap webpages & you want to know when yahoo changes its website and scrape fails?!
[22:14] <xnox> jtaylor: I am failing to see why foolscap needs to talk to yahoo.
[22:14] <jtaylor> foolscap doesn't
[22:14] <xnox> jtaylor: so which package need yahoo?
[22:14] <jtaylor> this is what is tested http://www.statalgo.com/2011/09/08/pandas-getting-financial-data-from-yahoo-fred-etc/
[22:15] <jtaylor> it can easily be disabled, i'm jsut wondering if I need to
[22:16] <xnox> jtaylor: try and see if it works.
[22:16] <xnox> jtaylor: but yahoo exports yahoo financial api, so it could potentially talk to yahoo test instance
[22:16] <xnox> jtaylor: or to cache and serve data locally (mock)
[22:17] <jtaylor> yes mocking is the proper way to do it
[22:17] <xnox> jtaylor: also if we do run it jenkins, and spam yahoo with it, they may block us.
[22:17] <jtaylor> so disable or not`?
[22:17] <xnox> jtaylor: also note that autopkgtests are run: when the package changes, or when one of it's dependencies change.
[22:18] <xnox> jtaylor: we don't run adt daily, so if yahoo breaks you might not notice it as quickly as you'd think.
[22:18] <jtaylor> I don't really care if yahoo breaks
[22:18] <jtaylor> I'll just disable it
[22:19] <jtaylor> the functionality is not yahoo specific, its just the provider used for the test
[22:58] <bobweaver> one day I will either make a poem about this channel or a song .
[22:58] <bobweaver> Watch Out
[23:14] <jokerdino> chrisccoulson: hey. is it possible to enable the Firefox nightly PPA for raring as well? Thanks.