[04:55] later all, off to work [05:14] hiya nlsthzn superfly and others [05:17] good morning... or should I say it would be once I have gone and slept a few :) [05:23] eish [06:22] hi Kilos [06:29] did you darem get some sleep superfly ? [06:30] yes [06:47] superfly, server edition uses less resources to install hey? [06:51] im gonna try install 12.10 server on the 2 TB drive [06:52] grr maverick hung and no ctrl+alt+F1 or anything else [06:52] grrr === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [06:54] aw kernel requires a X86-64 CPU and mine is a i686 [06:54] * Kilos cries [07:09] hi mazal [07:09] Môre oom [07:14] wassup mazal [07:14] Busy making breakfast [07:14] hehe === SmilyBorg_l1 is now known as SmilyBorg === SmilyBorg is now known as Guest52814 [08:32] hi Guest52814 [08:32] not smiling? [08:54] hi timkeller [09:07] bbl [09:10] o/ [09:10] aloha [09:10] hello from the DLUG end of year meeting [09:58] Moo [09:59] Maaz , extraneous [09:59] mazal: Huh? [09:59] Maaz: tell Kilos MOOOO [09:59] superfly: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [09:59] hi mazal [09:59] Hi superfly [09:59] Do you know how I can use Maaz's dictionary [10:00] Trying to figure out a command in a man page , but dunno what extraneous means [10:00] Maaz , what does extraneous mean ? [10:00] mazal: Erk, dunno [10:00] haha superfly you pulling a cow on me? [10:01] Maaz, define extraneous [10:01] Kilos: Extraneous \Ex*tra"ne*ous\, a. [L. extraneus, from extra. See {Extra-}, {Strange}.] Not belonging to, or dependent upon, a thing; without or beyond a thing; not essential or intrinsic; foreign; as, to separate gold from extraneous matter. [1913 Webster] Nothing is admitted extraneous from the indictment. --Landor. -- {Ex*tra"ne*ous*ly}, adv. [1913 Webster], [10:01] extraneous adj 1: not pertinent to the matter under consideration; "an issue extraneous … [10:01] nie relevant nie miskien mazal [10:01] Ag dankie oom Kilos [10:01] Now I'm even more confused [10:01] yw [10:02] what a fat upgrade. 83M one hit [10:02] I want to add an option to my rsync scripts to delete files in the destination that doesn't exist on the source [10:02] sjoe and firefox and opera are locked to onld version [10:02] So I'm thinking that I must add --delete [10:02] add --delete at the end i think [10:02] That says "Deletes extraneous files" [10:03] That's the closest I can get in the man page [10:03] ya thats it [10:03] Nothing that says "files that don't exist" [10:03] at the end of your command add --delete [10:03] k [10:03] Kilos: 83 megs is a slim upgrade... I remember doing an upgrade that totalled about 5 gigs [10:04] ouch superfly on what [10:04] mazal: it means unnecessary files [10:04] win8\ [10:04] hehe [10:04] Kilos: at the time, Kubuntu, over 3G [10:04] wow so big [10:05] you must have tons of stuff that upgrades [10:05] I had lots of games installed [10:05] ah [10:06] i just installed 12.04 kde on a 500GB drive so i can fight the 2 TB from there [10:06] wish all these big drives were mine [10:06] dunno what id do with them though [10:08] so lekker i just drag/dropped /packsp/ from here on unity to the kde desktop [10:08] Dit werkie :( [10:08] so cheap update/upgrade coming [10:09] sjoe [10:09] wag ek soek bietji [10:09] e [10:10] aw wrong drive [10:10] it must work man [10:10] whats your full command [10:10] I have put the --delete in 3 different places now , but don't wonna work [10:11] rsync -av --delete /source/ /destination [10:11] i wonder if -av makes a diffs [10:11] I have tried the --delete infrom of the -av as well and at the back of the command as well [10:11] infront even [10:12] sudo rsync -av /var/cache/apt/archives/ /destination/ --delete [10:13] That don't work [10:13] Did try it at the back [10:13] wait i go check on maverick. got the commands somewhere [10:13] That's why I hate man pages [10:13] then the files you want out arent extraneous [10:13] They don't really help [10:13] eish, Kilos and rsync... [10:14] hehe [10:14] saves me tons of data superfly [10:14] tons and tons [10:14] hi Kilos mazal and superfly [10:14] Lo psydroid [10:14] 3.7gig precise [10:14] hi psydroid [10:14] Gonna go look for an example on google [10:16] This seems interesting : [10:16] "If the sending side detects any I/O errors, then the deletion of any files at the destination will be automatically disabled. This is to prevent temporary filesystem fail‐ [10:16] ures (such as NFS errors) on the sending side from causing a massive deletion of files on the destination. You can override this with the --ignore-errors option. [10:16] With --ignore-errors added the old files in my home were finally deleted. I think this is because I always would have at least one error from a Firefox temp file or some such that had vanished while rsync was running. I hope this helps someone- this was driving me nuts for a while." [10:16] Gonna try that [10:17] That's a dangerous option [10:18] sjoe now you got syncd errors too [10:20] oh superfly can i run my kde backup on to ians drive or will it cause errors looking for miles [10:22] Kilos: I'm not sure what you mean? [10:23] i have a backup of my kubuntu and was wondering if it would work onto the kubuntu i just installed for him on his drive [10:24] as in can you use your backup to the pros pc? [10:25] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401629/ [10:25] That's how it looks now , and it works [10:25] Kilos: how do you, "use your backup to ..."? [10:26] oh ok. superfly you make a backup of your pc to a stick and then give it to someone else [10:26] and then...? [10:27] can they use it without it looking for raoul [10:27] they use it to backup onto their pc [10:27] as in it will have all your settings etc [10:28] for quassel and the pidgin equivalent thing you use [10:28] something k. i forget [10:29] whew this is hard to explain [10:30] as in i use a backup from my kde drive to unity and it gave it 10 workspaces [10:31] Ek ga eers kos soek [10:43] ugh [10:43] heh, coding this bgp listener is interesting, but a lot more work than I thought, the number of headers involved in bgp are... substantial, and half of them are variable length things [10:44] helluva lot of bit checking as well to figure out which headers you are using [11:03] wbb [11:03] lol, decided Im gonna get lazy and hack quagga bgpd [11:03] to do what I ned [12:18] hehe [12:18] good luck === WOLFEYES is now known as Kilos [12:37] afternoon peeps [12:40] sigh quassel without sound again [12:40] Maaz: seen inetpro [12:40] Kilos: inetpro was last seen 14 hours, 50 minutes and 22 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-11-30 13:50:22 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2012-11-21 16:15:22 PST [12:42] so mazal what did i miss [12:54] oh my. no one talking to me [12:54] * Kilos sulks [14:06] tumbleweed: ping (if you're around) [14:07] tumbleweed: unping (I answered my own question) [15:11] superfly: :) [16:06] lol [16:26] evening peeps [16:32] hi Kilos [16:33] hiya superfly: running kde here on a 500GB drive of ians and testdisk foremost and photorec are working great and quick [16:34] Kilos: cool beans [16:34] dunno what his client is gonna say when they get it back without winsucks on [16:34] hehe [16:34] but ive lost the little desktop window [16:35] got all the commands on it [16:35] sigh [16:35] actually funny [16:35] wooot hacked up code ftw [16:35] same happened on my kde drive [16:35] heh, so, I figured a nice solutions to my bgp logging stuff [16:36] you winning Symmetria [16:36] ? [16:36] I haxed the quagga daemon so that instead of debugging to terminal, it could debug to database, and then just added the additional fields I needed logged to the debugging code [16:36] and then just forced debug always on :p [16:36] kilos lol, yeah, Im winning by cheating :p [16:36] ah [16:36] if it works thats ok [16:50] i restart quick [17:03] Maaz: coffee on [17:03] * Maaz puts the kettle on [17:06] Maaz: coffee please [17:06] superfly: Righto [17:07] Coffee's ready for Kilos and superfly! [17:07] Maaz: thank you [17:07] Kilos: Sure [17:11] Maaz: baie dankie [17:11] Plesier superfly [18:48] whew no one with anything to say [18:48] greetings everyone [18:58] hi kodez [18:58] hi kilos, how are you? [18:58] good ty and you kodez [18:59] i am better than yesterday, thanks for asking [18:59] whats was wrong yesterday? [18:59] i am learning jquery-mobile and i can safely say, i have a nice learning curve [19:00] good [19:00] inetpro: ping [19:01] * inetpro stretches his self [19:01] good morning Kilos [19:01] hmmm he's ducking the bullets [19:01] hehe [19:01] what's up doc? [19:01] were you asleep inetpro? [19:02] nee [19:02] nie regtig nie [19:02] but just came into the channel a few minutes ago [19:02] was busy reading the backlogs [19:02] i need help with same missing little desktop window [19:02] ai [19:02] been hunting for hours [19:03] forget it Kilos, you don't really need it [19:03] nlsthzn: wb [19:03] hey inetpro , thanks :) [19:03] hi nlsthzn [19:03] hiya uncle Kilos [19:03] man how do i drag and drop stuff to and from desktop then [19:04] why? [19:04] or does the main one work now that the little one is gone [19:04] why does anyone ever want to drag and drop stuff from the desktop? [19:04] onto other drives etc [19:05] Kilos: when you are in Dolphin you just press F3 [19:05] otherwise i gotta work out paths and commands [19:05] then you have can set two different folder destinations and drag and drop with ease [19:06] ah that be kinda clever [19:06] ty [19:06] like midnight commander from back in the old days [19:06] never heard ot it [19:06] of either [19:07] ai [19:07] hiya magtie [19:07] magtie: goeie naand [19:07] hi almal [19:08] alo [19:09] nlsthzn: what's up doc? [19:09] nlsthzn: you kan say tannie [19:09] she be my size [19:09] hehe [19:10] heya auntie magtie , welcome :) [19:10] inetpro, not to much... on leave at the moment so feeling good :) [19:10] lekker hey [19:10] mooi [19:15] wonder what magespawnis up to [19:15] poaching again [19:15] hey smile4everyou up late [19:16] mmm quassel bit behind xchat i see [19:17] only adds space after tab nick complete if you strat with the nick [19:17] start [19:33] doei! :p [19:35] smile4ever: dit is somer in Suid Afrika [19:35] :) [19:36] ai [19:36] 01/12 00:22:08 Is er al snow in suid-afrika? [19:37] Kilos: die arme knapie weet seker nie eens waar ons bly nie [19:38] wie inetpro? [19:38] die smile knapie [19:38] o [19:38] Kilos: ^^ [19:38] hy het my blog gelees [19:39] en? [19:39] wat het dit met sneeu uit te waai? [19:39] lol dit was in die begin toe hy ons net gevind het [19:39] hyt my hele tyd ge pm [19:40] toe gee ek hom die blog om besig te hou [19:40] Kilos: 01/12 00:22:08 Is er al snow in suid-afrika? [19:40] en dit se ek is in pta [19:40] Kilos: dit was vanoggend [19:40] hahaha [19:40] sal my epos addy vir hom gee [19:41] lyk my nie die vlieg hou van rsync nie [19:41] Kilos: hoekom? [19:41] wag [19:42] eish verkeerde skyf [19:42] hyt gese eish kilos you and your rsync [19:42] haha [19:44] Kilos: in watter konteks? [19:44] maybe he has a beter tool [19:44] miskien jy gebruik dit verkeerd? [19:44] ek en mazal het gepraat van rsync waarmee hy nie kon --delete nie [19:45] gaan lees die logs man [19:45] of skim hulle en kom trap my weer uit [19:46] ai [19:46] wat is verkeerd met [19:46] sudo rsync -av /var/cache/apt/archives/ /destination/ [19:47] inetpro: ^^ [19:47] n vriend het my so geleer [19:51] Kilos: ai [19:51] inetpro: wat nou [19:51] ai [19:52] het hy my verkeerd geleer [19:52] nie regtig nie [19:53] maar dit is belankrik om die ding te verstaan en nie mense dinge laat doen sonder om te waarsku [19:53] dinge kan maklik skeef loop [19:53] maklik om foutiewe opsies te gebruik [19:54] maar lyk my mazal het reggekom [19:55] * inetpro het nog nooit --ignore-error nodig gehad nie [19:57] if you use rsync I would recommend that you always use the -n option to do a dry run before you do the real thing [19:59] Kilos: nou wat nou? [19:59] ek besig om sudo gedit /etc/scalpel/scalpel.conf [20:00] makliker as kate [20:00] Kilos: hoekom sudo gedit ...? [20:00] dis in my blog so gewees [20:01] en kde het nie gedit nie [20:01] to instaleer ek dit [20:01] Kilos: as jy nie van vi hou nie kan jy altyd nano gebruik [20:02] lol, wat is fout met gedit [20:02] as jy sudo gebruik is jy op die cli [20:02] hoekom nie 'n cli editor gebruik nie? [20:03] ek moet nog leer [20:03] * mazal like nano [20:03] Hallo julle [20:04] Kilos: tik die volgende [20:04] nano kilos.txt [20:04] Oom Kilos jy moet eintlik nooit 'n gui editor gebruik vir scripts nie [20:05] Sommige verander die formatting en dan werk die script nie [20:05] ai [20:05] gedit werk nog altyd vir my [20:05] dankie mazal [20:05] inetpro: jy het my geleer daarmee [20:05] Kilos: dit was destyds toe jy nog nie geweet het van cli nie [20:06] toe ek nog dommer as nou was [20:06] Ek het eenkeer my alie af gesukkel , en toe ek eventually my script in vi oopmaak toe sien ek hy is vol weird karakters wat nie in die gui gewys het nie [20:06] En dan is daar die afkap van lang lyne ook wat pla [20:07] sjoe [20:07] Kilos: onthou jy hoeveel keer ek probeer het om jou van vi te leer? [20:08] Van daai dag is dit net nano of vi vir my [20:08] wel dan was ek vir n hele klompie jare net gelukkig [20:08] ja man en vim [20:08] dit bly nie in kop nie [20:08] Ek het geen idee wat met die formatting gebeur het nie , maar al wat ek weet die weird karakters het nie gewys in die hui editor nie [20:09] tot die slng kon nie hou vas kry nie [20:09] lol [20:11] Ekke gaan inkruip [20:11] Lekker slaap almal [20:12] Sleep well everyone [20:12] na mazal [20:12] nag* [20:19] nag julle almal. ek gaan dyk nou [20:19] sal more weer kom loer [20:19] lekker slaap [20:19] nag goosie [20:24] night all