[00:00] <GartimusPrime> oh well thanks for the help
[00:00] <Jordan_U> OpenSorce: For steam on Ubuntu, #ubuntu-steam.
[00:00] <recover_ext4> Data lost during an automated backup I had setup; files were all in the default user directory and sub-directories.
[00:00] <genii-around> OpenSorce: #ubuntu-steam   ... if you're one of the people previewing it
[00:00] <OpenSorce> Jordan_U, genii-around thanks :-)
[00:00] <GartimusPrime> no other fix for black screen with only mouse pointer?
[00:01] <Jordan_U> recover_ext4: Lost how though? Were they accidentily overwritten? Was the filesystem corrupted? Was the partition table corrupted?
[00:01] <GartimusPrime> or go down to 12.04?
[00:01] <Jordan_U> OpenSorce: You're welcome.
[00:02] <Dogget> Just installed 12.10 and trying to find the best driver for my ati 7850, any help more than welcome
[00:02] <Jordan_U> BlackScreen: It's probably easier to just select the correct drive manually from your firmware menus once, then once Ubuntu is booted run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to install grub's boot sector to both drives (and configure the grub-pc package to do so whenever grub is upgraded).
[00:03] <BlackScreen> Jordan_U: firmware menus meaning? sorry, not very used to this
[00:03] <recover_ext4> Automated backup was running, then there was the auto update which started. After backup was complete, I let the auto update do the partial upgrade which it prompted for. Then I restarted the computer, safely removed the extra hdd, and continued the partial upgrade.
[00:04] <recover_ext4> The partial upgrade messed up the operating system, and I had to reinstall it. What I realised later was the backup files were also corrupt.
[00:05] <recover_ext4> Therefore, I need to find a way to get my files back.
[00:05] <recover_ext4> I've tried photorec, and many other tools.
[00:05] <Dogget> Need help installing the best ATI drivers on ubuntu when using a 7850 card? So far no success
[00:06] <recover_ext4> I have no idea how all that story is of any use, but thats how the data was lost.
[00:07] <Jordan_U> recover_ext4: Then it sounds like the files were overwritten, which means that http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel might help, though I don't know to what extent it supports ext4.
[00:07] <recover_ext4> It didn't work for ext4, already tried it.
[00:09] <darkhalo117> Trying to edit the grub2 configuration to boot to win xp by default but when I run gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst it shows up blank. Ideas?
[00:09] <recover_ext4> Photorec is the only tool I tried, which actually recovered anything, but files it recovered were from many formats ago. They were all from ext3, FAT32 and NTFS.
[00:10] <bazhang> !grub2 | darkhalo117
[00:10] <bazhang> there's no menu.lst in grub2 darkhalo117 , check the wiki above
[00:11] <JuJuBee> Anybody use a Sansa Fuze MP3 player?  Need help with managing music.  Specifically with playlists
[00:11] <bazhang> JuJuBee, with which software player
[00:12] <darkhalo117> Ok I'll read through this wiki but it looks to be the same info I've been getting through google. If I have further issues I'll be back. Thank you.
[00:12] <JuJuBee> bazhang: using rhythmbox currently, but will switch if I find one that works better with device
[00:13] <bazhang> JuJuBee, how many songs/albums are we talking about; roughly
[00:13] <JuJuBee> I have over 50G or music, but the device is only 16G
[00:14] <bazhang> JuJuBee, I've always had great success with Banshee and playlists , the Sansa should be well supported in that respect
[00:14] <JuJuBee> bazhang: want to transfer certain playlists to the device and maybe some other artists
[00:14] <JuJuBee> I never used banshee
[00:14] <bazhang> JuJuBee, although this was with iPods of various generations, not Sansa
[00:15] <JuJuBee> A friend tried banshee with his 80G classic iPod and it didn't seem to work.
[00:15] <JuJuBee> I use RB for my iPod
[00:23] <r33P33r> keya
[00:26] <xpoqz> Hi, having problems, my keyboard settings is set to Norwegian as far as I can see, however it's really still english..
[00:26] <xpoqz> fresh install, /etc/default/keyboard XKBLAYOUT os set tp
[00:27] <xpoqz> set to 'no'
[00:27] <xpoqz> for norwegian..
[00:28] <xpoqz> also the ubuntu gui keyboard program shows Norwegian..
[00:32] <anon2012> ce qualche italiano
[00:32] <bug-traq> xpogz: are you wanting to keep english or what ???
[00:32] <kakkin> haha
[00:32] <xpoqz> bug-traq, I do not want to keep english keyboard layout, I want Norwegian
[00:33] <xpoqz> and it is set to Norwegian but it's still not really the Norwegian layout..
[00:33] <bug-traq> xpoqs: ok
[00:33] <DrManhattan> how do I start gnome from the console?
[00:34] <Riberty> what is the best program to access/retrieeve files on a linux parition on windows?
[00:34] <DrManhattan> startx just gives me a background screen and a cursor
[00:35] <bug-traq> xpoqz: try this script in terminal   --->  sudo setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle no,ru
[00:36] <xpoqz> bug-traq, that gives me the Norwegian layout indeed, however it doesn't quite make sense to me that one
[00:37] <xpoqz> thanks though :)
[00:37] <bug-traq> xpoqz: anytime , it may be a bug ???
[00:37] <xpoqz> hmm, perhaps
[00:37] <bug-traq> ??
[00:38] <bug-traq> xpoqz:  there always has to be a ginea pig for any bugs , you may be the 1 for that bug     lol
[00:38] <xpoqz> heh
[00:40] <w0rm-_x> m
[00:41] <noneya> Can anyone give me some ideas on how to convert an file in xml
[00:41] <noneya> to sql that is?
[00:41] <noneya> Any software? I am not a programmer but am not afraid to learn to. Any pointers?
[00:41] <bug-traq> DrManhattan,  type this in terminal for gnome
[00:41] <bug-traq> gdm
[00:42] <blackshirt> wiw
[00:43] <bug-traq> noneya,  from xml to sql ???
[00:43] <blackshirt> noneya, do you want learn programming ?
[00:43] <bekks> noneya: You have to create a xslt as well, to tell "xml" about what to do with which content.
[00:43] <DrManhattan> bug-traq, im on 12.04 - its lightdm but thank you nonetheless :)
[00:43] <noneya> bug-traq: Yes from xml to sql.
[00:44] <noneya> blackshirt: If that is what it takes I will learn to program.
[00:44] <bekks> noneya: Thats nothing about programming.
[00:44] <tuxillo> hi
[00:44] <tuxillo> can somebody point me to an IRC channel where I can find some devs?
[00:44] <bekks> noneya: Thats just something about knowing on which content you have and what you want to do with it exactly, in SQL.
[00:45] <bekks> noneya: Most likely, you just want some sophisticated sed/awk approach.
[00:45] <noneya> I want to convert this to XML http://sspc-website.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/include/bibles/kjv.xml
[00:45] <noneya> Or to SQL I mean.
[00:46] <bekks> noneya: ...into what? Do you have a database scheme, and a table layout already?
[00:46] <noneya> bekks: Yes, I am learning SQL at the moment (HSQL).
[00:46] <bekks> noneya: HSQL is a plague.
[00:46] <noneya> bekks: Why?
[00:46] <bug-traq> noneya: are you running windows or linux ???
[00:47] <noneya> bug-traq: Linux
[00:47] <bekks> noneya: Because it is a stripped-off, changed randomly, approach of the SQL standard.
[00:47] <noneya> bekks: Any better ideas?
[00:47] <xevwork> When is rc.local run during the boot process? Should networking and filesystems all be online at that point?
[00:47] <bekks> noneya: Not without knowing what your goal is, actually.
[00:48] <rosevp> can someone help with xming -> xdm?
[00:48] <noneya> So what is this XSLT going to do for me?
[00:48] <bekks> xevwork: rc.local is run as the last script when booting, and the first one when shutting your box off.
[00:48] <bug-traq> noneya : is it for a server ???
[00:48] <noneya> bug-traq: Negative.
[00:48] <bekks> noneya: XSLT will tell your XML whats the meaning of your XML content, how it is going to be translated into SQL element content, etc.
[00:49] <dr_willis> its ran on shutdown? never notced that.
[00:49] <rosevp> everything is steup but wireshark shows xdm from server is sending magic-cookie-
[00:49] <noneya> bekks: Do you have any good lins for an intro for me?
[00:49] <bekks> dr_willis: Actually it is, most likely no one knows :D
[00:49] <rosevp> I thought magic-cooke isn't sent with xdm
[00:49] <noneya> bekks: I meant "links"
[00:50] <bug-traq> noneya: i did find a wiki about it  here is the link instead of trying to type it or copy and paste it to you   ---->  http://www.ehow.com/how_7573270_convert-xml-sql-database-ubuntu.html
[00:50] <bekks> noneya: Start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XSL_Transformation
[00:51] <noneya> bug-traq bekks I will give them a look. Thanks.
[00:52] <rosevp> any suggestion on xming/xdm?
[00:53] <bug-traq> noneya: ok it explains everything
[00:53] <noneya> bug-traq: Alright, thanks.
[00:57] <bekks> rosevp: Whats wrong with that?
[00:58] <Smedles> hi all - any way of controlling which serial port a usb-serial adapter gets? I have an ftdi adapter for solar monitoring, and a pl2303 for household energy consumption monitoring - they do not consistently get allocated ttyUSB0 and ttyUSB1 - it seems somewhat random
[00:59] <Smedles> so then the monitoring apps don't start correctly. only an issue on a reboot, which is rare, but still a pita
[00:59] <bekks> Smedles: You could create a udev rule for those devices.
[00:59] <dr_willis> Smedles: custom udev rules
[00:59] <Smedles> any docs on that?
[00:59] <dr_willis> !udev
[00:59] <Smedles> sounds like just what I need :)
[01:00] <dr_willis> one of those areas ive never mssed with..
[01:00] <Smedles> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7986034/linux-how-to-force-a-usb-device-to-use-the-same-ttyusb-number
[01:01] <Smedles> knew there had to be a way :)
[01:03] <Smedles> sounds like I can create /dev/ttyusbsolar and /dev/ttyusbcurrentcost :)\
[01:04] <skutr34> Hey. How can I ensure that proprietary graphics drivers are installed on my fresh install of 12.10?
[01:06] <skutr34> Does anyone know how I can ensure that proprietary graphics card drivers are installed on my new 12.10 installation?
[01:07] <betz> Hey! I try to cp a folder to a mounted external hd, but after a minute the hd gets unmounted and i get 'Input/output error'. Someone knows how this comes? Is this a bad HD?
[01:09] <rosevp> hi bekks - been having troulbe with connecting to win 7 (Xming) to xdm (ubuntu)
[01:09] <bug-traq> skutr34: what kind of graphics you using  ati or nvidia
[01:12] <Adam2_> This may sound like a strange question, but what command can I use to open the Ubuntu Network Manager?
[01:12] <bixit> I'm now finding one part of the window x system extremely slow after fresh install - seems like it has problems when dragging windows around
[01:12] <xomniverse> when I launch Banshee, it immediately closes itself unless I launch it with sudo in the terminal
[01:13] <xomniverse> in the terminal, if I don't use "sudo" it says "[ERROR] FATAL UNHANDLED EXCEPTION: GLib.GException: Can't recursively copy directory
[01:13] <xomniverse> "
[01:13] <bixit> tried to remove vsync from the compiz settings but that didn't help
[01:13] <xangua> xomniverse: well looks like we know why now :) - I launch it with sudo in the terminal
[01:14] <xomniverse> I'd prefer not to do that consistently; is there a file permission or something I can alter to fix it?
[01:15] <escott> xomniverse, you need to sudo chown -r user:group the folder with all your music
[01:15] <rosevp> can someone assist in xming -> xdm?
[01:15] <rosevp> having issues connecting
[01:15] <xomniverse> escott: it said invalid option r when I did that
[01:16] <mojo1> question:  does anyone know what putting the directive "start" at the end of a bash command line does?  my boss found it in some bash scripts for an automation / testing system we use and we can't figure out what it does
[01:16] <escott> xomniverse, -R
[01:16] <almoxarife> does lxde need gvfs to operate correctly?
[01:16] <escott> mojo1, example?
[01:17] <xomniverse> how do I know what group I am in?
[01:17] <escott> xomniverse, id or groups
[01:18] <jrib> mojo1: give an example...
[01:18] <yhusha_> so this is the string thats being an issue just did: sudo mount /casper/filesystem.squashfs /mnt
[01:18] <yhusha_>  followed by: sudo mkdir /casper/chroot followed by: sudo rsync -ax /mnt/. /casper/chroot/.
[01:18] <rosevp> why is xdm sending magic-cookie-
[01:18] <Adam2_> mojo1: If it's an init script, it just tells the specific system to start. It's some sort of standard argument or something.
[01:18] <yhusha_> but the last line didnt seem to do what it was supposed to
[01:18] <rosevp> I send x -query remote ip and xdm sends back magic-cookie.  is this correct?
[01:19] <xomniverse> ok so I ran the following command
[01:19] <Adam2_> This may sound like a strange question, but what command can I use to open the Ubuntu Network Manager?
[01:19] <xomniverse> sudo chown -R xomniverse:xomniverse /home/xomniverse/Music
[01:19] <mojo1> i don't think it is an init script.  my boss would know that.  it is given on the command line that launches the script ... space, "start" at the end... but it does not appear to be an argument as he said he didn't find anywhere in the script that it looked at args.  I unfortunately don't have the script to look at.  he threw the question out there and said the first one to figure it out gets a mexican coke.  (real sugar).  ;-)
[01:20] <xomniverse> and it seemed to work
[01:20] <xomniverse> but still getting the same issuie
[01:20] <xomniverse> in Banshee
[01:20] <FloodBot1> xomniverse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:20] <yhusha_> is there a way to make an imaginary cdrom to run these codes as is in the tutorial
[01:20] <yhusha_> that calls for use of cdrom iso
[01:20] <xomniverse> would the fact that my music folder is a symlink cause issues with Banshee?
[01:21] <yhusha_> like maybe create a directory in media thats called cdrom
[01:21] <duarteper> hello
[01:21] <yhusha_> anybody think that would work
[01:21] <yhusha_> in /media
[01:21] <escott> mojo1, without any parsed character like ' ` ; " | > before that the shell just passes that as an argument to the command. my guess is this is dailywtf worthy in that a previous coder thought you needed to start every command
[01:22] <mojo1> lol @escot
[01:22] <mojo1> thanks escott & all... you may be right.  he could not determine that it made any difference when run.
[01:22] <haylo> so whats with ubuntu-live being ivite only ?
[01:23] <haylo> i would like to be able to keep track of live build in bot ubuntu and debian  :P
[01:23] <mojo1> it is part of an hp automation system for automated testing of applications.
[01:23] <Adam2_> yhusha_: If you just do "sudo mount </path/to/your.iso> /mount/cdrom" it should work.
[01:23] <yhusha_> this is what the task is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM but without a cdrom as is apparently used in the guide
[01:24] <yhusha_> well this is the code and its not making sense: sudo mount -o loop -t squashfs /casper/filesystem.squashfs /mnt
[01:25] <yhusha_> why the first instance of squashfs after loop -t
[01:25] <Dougie187> When something causes a crash, and ubuntu tries to generate a bug report, does it also take a memory dump? or just a stack trace?
[01:25] <haylo> yhusha_: you are trying to alter the contents of the squasjfs ?
[01:25] <haylo> you are mounting it wrong :P
[01:25] <yhusha_> yea
[01:25] <yhusha_> no\
[01:25] <yhusha_> other files
[01:25] <haylo> mount it at byte number 512
[01:25] <haylo> that will get what you want
[01:25] <xomniverse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401028/ This is what Banshee says in terminal when I run it without sudo. It's very cryptic
[01:26] <yhusha_> its right here
[01:26] <yhusha_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[01:27] <haylo> yhusha_: its easier to boot to ram than this though for a live cd
[01:27] <haylo> look at boot parameter   "toram"
[01:27] <haylo> im not sure if its bugged. but that is supposed to copy the whole filesystem to ram at boot
[01:27] <yhusha_> yes but this would make it so the system after install boots these certain things to ram every time right'
[01:27] <haylo> man live-boot
[01:27] <Smedles> bekks / dr_willis: thanks guys - I found http://hintshop.ludvig.co.nz/show/persistent-names-usb-serial-devices/ and have it setup now :)
[01:28] <almoxarife> xomniverse: tried this? create Podcasts directory in user home directory.
[01:29] <xomniverse> holy crap that worked
[01:29] <xomniverse> TY SO MUCH! :)
[01:29] <almoxarife> xomniverse: google buddy, its magical like that
[01:29] <xomniverse> I tried google, maybe I just googled the wrong thing
[01:30] <almoxarife> xomniverse: google the complete error, it helps
[01:30] <almoxarife> xomniverse: and the first place to look is 'bug' usually
[01:31] <xomniverse> noted, thanks :)
[01:31] <almoxarife> xomniverse: :)
[01:37] <almoxarife> so, how do i rightclick on a tablet running lxde?
[01:40] <bodhi> good morning,
[01:40] <abdostar> can someone help me to setup port forward to my new ubuntu server
[01:44] <lucid> abdostar: what version are you running of ubuntu ??
[01:44] <abdostar> lucid: 10.12
[01:45] <Daekdroom> abdostar, I don't think that exists.
[01:45] <lucid> abdostar: cool i love lucid , best version there was
[01:45] <abdostar> Daekdroom: 12.04
[01:46] <abdostar> im running 12.04
[01:46] <wangzh> i'm running 12.04
[01:48] <lucid> abdostar: lol yeah it doesnt exist
[01:48] <JuJuBee> abdostar: did you set up iptables yet?
[01:49] <abdostar> JuJuBee: no, I just installed phpadmin, webmin, python ....
[01:49] <JuJuBee> abdostar: ok, I use webmin to manage a server also. Did you set up ipforwarding?
[01:52] <abdostar> JuJuBee: not yet, is this a thing I should do in webmin, or the router?
[01:52] <JuJuBee> abdostar: edit /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward  and change the 0 to a 1
[01:53] <JuJuBee> abdostar: also edit /etc/sysctl.conf and look for # Uncomment the next line to enable packet forwarding for IPv4
[01:55] <tizz> greetinsg
[01:55] <tizz> greetings even
[01:56] <tizz> i seek knowledge, i look to create a short cut to a shell script (pokemmo.sh) taht is pinned to my unity launcher side thing in ubuntu 12.10
[01:56] <tizz> is there anyone that might assist me in this goal?
[01:56] <dfgas-cr48> how do i locate a file?
[01:57] <jrib> dfgas-cr48: what do you know about the file?
[01:57] <JuJuBee> abdostar: here is a guide to iptables...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[01:58] <delac> dfgas-cr48: gnome-search-tool might be one option
[01:58] <bobweaver> tizz,  I can help with that
[01:58] <abdostar> JuJuBee: which line do i have to uncomment?
[01:58] <Bustacap> I'm having trouble getting a hard drive to mount, can someone help me :/
[01:59] <ghost20121221> let me guess, a seagate hd?
[01:59] <JuJuBee> abdostar: look for the one with net.ipv4.ip_forward
[01:59] <bobweaver> tizz,  mv the script to /usr/sbin  then make a desktop file , add a image for icon to /usr/share/pixmaps/ (for desktop file) then get fancy with it and add quicklist for options
[02:00] <bobweaver> tizz,  desktop files  are under /usr/share/applications/
[02:00] <tao> hi, i know i am not suppose to manually configure /etc/resolv.conf but it keeps on setting to 127.0.0.1 and i can't resolve any domain names after that. Where should i properly configure nameserver in ubuntu 12.10?
[02:00] <abdostar> JuJuBee: done, I edited the 2 files
[02:00] <abdostar> JuJuBee: done, I edited the 2 files, I mean thnks to you :)
[02:01] <ubuntu> join ubuntu
[02:01] <skutr34> Hi. I am trying to configure my graphics card drivers, and I am running aticonfig --initial, and it is not being understood. Does anyone know an alternative to this command?
[02:01] <JuJuBee> abdostar: I have a rule in my iptables script :  -A PREROUTING -d your.outside.ip.address/32 -i eth1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport someExternalPort -j DNAT --to-destination your.inside.ip.address:desiredPort
[02:01] <jrib> !resolv.conf | tao
[02:01] <KI4RO> What is making my screen go dark.  I've looked at all the monitor and screen settings and cannot find what is causing this to happen.
[02:01] <lexngton> to skut34 linux doesn't like ATI
[02:01] <lexngton> trust me i know
[02:02] <skutr34> lexngton: I know.
[02:02] <bobweaver> KI4RO,  you looked at battery settings ?
[02:02] <lexngton> ive always been an nvidia guy..first ATI video card i get and nothing but problems
[02:02] <KI4RO> bobweaver: Battery settings?  You mean power setup?
[02:02] <lexngton> plus its a laptop
[02:02] <abdostar> JuJuBee: do I have to install iptables? then edit?
[02:02] <JuJuBee> abdostar: yes, install iptables.
[02:03] <RickZilla> demoing 12.10, when I open up firefox, LibreOffice, etc, I'm used to seeing another menu set at the top that I can access. Those seem to be gone in ubuntu 12.10, is there a different way to access those?
[02:03] <JuJuBee> abdostar: you can use webmin to manage iptables just fine.
[02:03] <skutr34> lexngton: I have never had a machine with an Nvidia card. I've always had ATI, and I haven't really had problems until the more recent versions Ubuntu...
[02:03] <abdostar> JuJuBee: iptables already installed, but I have no idea how to edit it
[02:03] <bobweaver> abdostar,  be careful with webmin
[02:04] <yeats> !webmin
[02:04] <lexngton> yeah i know..the old version of ubuntu/pinguy worked just fine with ati because my friend had one
[02:04] <lexngton> not sure why the new one has issues
[02:04] <lexngton> they are working it on though
[02:04] <skutr34> lexngton: Do you happen to know the alternative to the --initial parameter with aticonfig?
[02:04] <abdostar> bobweaver: :) my 2nd install today, after I missed up something with the 1st one
[02:04] <lexngton> honestly i gave up on that..i just use the default drivers...i gave up on installing ati drivers
[02:04] <skutr34> lexngton: And yeah. 10.10 was fantastic on my other machine using an ATI card
[02:05] <JuJuBee> abdostar: yeats:  I use it now and it does fine for what I use it for.  iptables mostly
[02:05] <JuJuBee> I just hate the syntax of iptables rules?
[02:05] <bobweaver> abdostar,  you are aware that there is a saying . give root permissions to user . what could go wrong ?
[02:05] <yeats> JuJuBee: check out ufw
[02:05] <abdostar> JuJuBee: where can i find iptables in webmin?
[02:05] <bobweaver> JuJuBee,  there is ipcop pfsense gufw ect
[02:06] <JuJuBee> yeats: what does United Farm Workers have to do with anything?  LOL
[02:06] <ScottNYC> where can I see a list of packages ubuntu comes with by default?
[02:06] <ScottNYC> comes pre-installed with*
[02:06] <bobweaver> ScottNYC,  depends
[02:06] <yeats> !ufw
[02:06] <JuJuBee> bobweaver: do these all manage iptables config?
[02:06] <bobweaver> because everyone gets different settings sometimes ScottNYC  but you can look at iso
[02:07] <bobweaver> JuJuBee,the ipcop pfsense do
[02:07] <ScottNYC> ok thx bobweaver
[02:07] <matej_> nvidia sucks
[02:07] <RickZilla> demoing 12.10, when I open up firefox, LibreOffice, etc, I'm used to seeing another menu set at the top that I can access. Those seem to be gone in ubuntu 12.10, is there a different way to access those?
[02:07] <bobweaver> ScottNYC,  you can install a miniamal and run  dpkg-query -l     to see all packages installed
[02:07] <JuJuBee> bobweaver: yeats: will they try to overwrite my current config or just read it in and let me edit?
[02:08] <bobweaver> ScottNYC,  or you can extract image and look at the config there is a file can not remeber name
[02:08] <bobweaver> ScottNYC,  I will mount a img
[02:08] <yeats> JuJuBee: not sure - I would do backups of your rules, then experiment
[02:08] <JuJuBee> abdostar: looks like gufw is a gui front end for "uncomplicated firewall"   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[02:08] <ScottNYC> ok thx alot
[02:09] <JuJuBee> yeats: I do a nightly backup
[02:09] <yeats> JuJuBee: and ufw is a wrapper around iptables
[02:09] <JuJuBee> yeats: I am reading the docs now.  Looks cool.  I will give it a try.
[02:09] <bobweaver> There is shorewall for linux ?
[02:10] <bobweaver> er spelling *
[02:10] <bobweaver> shorewall*
[02:10] <Bustacap> Can someone help me with a problem mounting a hardrive?
[02:10] <bobweaver> !info shorewall
[02:11] <bobweaver> Bustacap,  what kinda harddrive ?
[02:11] <Bustacap> bobweaver: it's an ide through a usb adapter.
[02:11] <abdostar> JuJuBee: I guess I found it under networking/linux firewall
[02:11] <JuJuBee> yeats: I like that I can manage from a remote machine with webmin...
[02:11] <bobweaver> Bustacap,  is usb pluged in ?
[02:12] <JuJuBee> abdostar: yes
[02:12] <Bustacap> bobweaver: lol of course.
[02:12] <lucid> Bustacap,  what brand of harddrive ???
[02:12] <abdostar> JuJuBee: do i just enable it?
[02:12] <Bustacap> lucid: Seagate
[02:12] <RickZilla> demoing 12.10, when I open up firefox, LibreOffice, etc, I'm used to seeing another menu set at the top that I can access. Those seem to be gone in ubuntu 12.10, is there a different way to access those?
[02:12] <JuJuBee> abdostar: yes
[02:13] <bobweaver> Bustacap,  plz install this package called "pastebinit"  the bot will tell you more about package. But after installed please run in terminal      " mount |pastebinit "  then give us the link that the terminal spits out
[02:13] <JuJuBee> abdostar: then you go about creating rules.  There are many tutorials on setting it up.  Depends on your needs...
[02:14] <bobweaver> !info pastebinit | Bustacap  install with software center or sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit thanks .
[02:14] <Bustacap> I already have pastebinit :P
[02:14] <bobweaver> ah sweet
[02:14] <Bustacap> http://pastebin.com/1DnznYyj
[02:14] <abdostar> JuJuBee: all i want to achieve now, is remotley access my server
[02:14] <bobweaver> so" mount " shows you all things that are mounted
[02:15] <Bustacap> Yup.
[02:15] <JuJuBee> abdostar: yes, but you don't want unwanted traffic to get in...
[02:15] <Bustacap> Shows my normal drive and my flash drive.
[02:15] <JuJuBee> Is your server connected to your ISP or is there another device in the way?
[02:15] <bobweaver> Bustacap,  " lsusb " shows the things that are attached to usb slots
[02:15] <Bustacap> Yup.
[02:15] <Bustacap> I was just gonna pastebin that for ya
[02:15] <bobweaver> Bustacap, mounting things to /media   or /mnt  is always a ok idea
[02:15] <abdostar> JuJuBee: yeah for sure, how can i set up the rule you sent me earlier
[02:15] <Bustacap> http://pastebin.com/6JPCqsUU
[02:16] <Bustacap> Bus 1 device 2
[02:16] <JuJuBee> abdostar can we PM this?
[02:16] <abdostar> JuJuBee: yeah, sure
[02:16] <bobweaver> Bustacap,   you can mount things with the command  mount <device you want to mount >    <place to mount to >
[02:17] <bobweaver> Bustacap,  you can also see the drive numbers that you want to use with  ^^^     "sudo fdisk -l "
[02:17] <lucid> Bustacap,  what errors is it giving you
[02:17] <ashleyludlow> brb
[02:17] <Bustacap> bobweaver: The problem is that I don't see it in fdisk.
[02:17] <bobweaver> Oo
[02:17] <RickZilla> demoing 12.10, when I open up firefox, LibreOffice, etc, I'm used to seeing another menu set at the top that I can access. Those seem to be gone in ubuntu 12.10, is there a different way to access those?
[02:17] <Bustacap> http://pastebin.com/CDVdtYeR
[02:18] <bobweaver> Bustacap,  you see it in lsusb ?
[02:18] <Bustacap> Yep.
[02:18] <bobweaver> Bustacap,  what is /dev/sdi: ?
[02:19] <Bustacap> Flash drive.
[02:19] <jesusemelendezm> hey guys! I am here, any questions... let me know I am glad to help beginners guy to keep and maintain Ubuntu and Debian machines up and running!
[02:19] <lucid> Bustacap,  you may have to install seagate tools to get it recognized ???
[02:19] <bobweaver> Bustacap,  what about dmesg what does that say
[02:19] <bobweaver> Bustacap,  grep it out plz
[02:20] <Bustacap> Yep.
[02:20] <RickZilla> jesusmelendezm: demoing 12.10, when I open up firefox, LibreOffice, etc, I'm used to seeing another menu set at the top that I can access. Those seem to be gone in ubuntu 12.10, is there a different way to access those?
[02:21] <bobweaver> Bustacap,  there is a light that is turning on when you are pluging into usb slot for frive or any thing like that . is it getting power in other words ?
[02:22] <Bustacap> bobweaver: dmesg http://pastebin.com/RMdkeC2c
[02:22] <Bustacap> bobweaver: it's getting power and the and it is turning on.
[02:22] <bobweaver> Bustacap,  unplug it and plug back in and run again plz
[02:23] <Bustacap> bobweaver: here it is again http://pastebin.com/BFL06kih
[02:24] <bobweaver> !bug 987993
[02:24] <yhusha_> so heres the thought remaster ubuntu to have a home partition on hdd then where as apps and system files are stored in root the idea would be to store all of them instead in a partition on/home making symbolic links to all these things and thus lighten the load of /root which would be configured to boot entirely from ram
[02:25] <bobweaver> Bustacap,  Realtek ?
[02:25] <yhusha_> testing ways to speed up the system on a 1gg ram 1666mhz cpu
[02:25] <tizz> bobweaver do scripts need to be in the usr/sbin folder?
[02:25] <RickZilla> demoing 12.10, when I open up firefox, LibreOffice, etc, I'm used to seeing another menu set at the top that I can access. Those seem to be gone in ubuntu 12.10, is there a different way to access those?
[02:25] <Bustacap> bobweaver: ?
[02:26] <mega1> i have server 10.04 and it wont connect to the internet it will ping anything on the network
[02:26] <tao> jrib, ok i read the links you provided basically my base file and head file has nothing in them, and they also said resolv.conf should point to 127.0.0.1 which is network-manager managed dnsmasq server to better handle VPN
[02:26] <bobweaver> to point to it in the desktop file and also to run it with out having to type its dir that it is under unless you have ~/bin ?
[02:26] <bobweaver> tizz,   ^^^
[02:26] <tao> jrib,  i am using TorGuard, basically when i connect through the VPN i can surf web fine but not when i disconnect it
[02:26] <lucid> mega1: are you on a laptop ???
[02:27] <tao> jrib
[02:27] <mega1> yes
[02:27] <tao> sorry  actually got to go, i will ask later
[02:27] <lucid> mega1: you probly need to enable wireless
[02:27] <bobweaver> Bustacap,  I am not sure at all
[02:27] <tizz> oh okay
[02:27] <mega1> the server is not a laptop
[02:28] <Bustacap> bobweaver: I know right. It's tricky :/
[02:28] <mega1> i can connect to it on my laptop
[02:28] <yhusha_> or /user
[02:28] <yhusha_> any critic
[02:28] <Bustacap> I just found a winblows tutorial to fix it, so I'm going to try that.
[02:28] <Bustacap> I'll be back :P
[02:28] <tizz> thx
[02:29] <bobweaver> Bustacap,  good luck I am sure that others might have something to say
[02:29] <Bustacap> Ty :P
[02:29] <driver_> irc://punch.dal.net:7000/wdtv
[02:46] <yhusha_> ok this thing is almost compiled but theres a possible problem in some code its pretty short.... http://pastebin.com/bPf5kLXC
[02:47] <Pantsman0> hiya all
[02:47] <Pantsman0> does anyone know how to edit the japanese kana keymap to include an extra key?
[02:48] <nolageek> can i ask here about creating/booting from a lubuntu live-usb
[02:48] <nolageek> ?
[02:49] <topper4125> !ask
[02:50] <nolageek> I've created the USB 3 times, checked the md5sum, etc... but whenever it starts I get dropped to a command prompt...  crunchbang seems to boot OK, but I much prefer lubuntu on my netbook
[02:51] <sab> Can someone tell me where the hardware manager is located in ubuntu - I want to enable a second GPU card with a second monitor attached to it
[02:54] <lucid> sab: you have to install gnome-device-manager
[02:55] <sab> lucid: thanks will do that
[02:55] <lucid> sab: then go to Applications – System Tools – device manager
[02:55] <lucid> sab: that will show you everything  you need
[02:56] <lucid> sab: anytime
[02:56] <mega1> can anyone help he get my server on the internet
[02:56] <lucid> sab: you can do it thru synaptic or in terminal
[02:58] <tieinv> Unable to locate package gnome-device-manager
[02:59] <sab> lucid: I can't find that package do you know what repo it is from?
[03:00] <alucardtnuoc> #archlinux
[03:01] <lucid> sab: no i dont really , i use lucid  and havent needed to see it
[03:01] <lucid> sab: try sudo apt-get install gnome-device-manager
[03:02] <sab> lucid: i did and couldn't find it - also looking in synaptic right now - i will take a look at my sources list
[03:04] <tieinv> sab try network-manager-gnome
[03:04] <lucid> sab: i will look also
[03:04] <sab> tieinv: i can see that package
[03:05] <tieinv> oh sorry
[03:05] <tieinv> device
[03:06] <lucid> sab: in synaptic search for gnome-device-manager and it will bring it up
[03:06] <almoxarife> ok, so i got precise running on android, does what it would be expected to do, minus hitting a right click, thats still an issue, any thoughts, rightclick on an android-lxde via the lxde os?
[03:07] <almoxarife> lxde-buntu via the arm and some omap4 ppa
[03:07] <sab> lucid: its not there - this is a new install
[03:07] <sab> quantal
[03:08] <lucid> sab: do you have the software-center installed ????
[03:08] <sab> lucid: yes
[03:08] <sab> lucid: i have also got synaptic
[03:08] <lucid> sab: try a search for it in there  gnome-device-manager
[03:09] <topper4125> Launchpad says: There is no current release of this source package in The Quantal Quetzal. You can still report bugs, make translations, and so on, but they might not be used until the package is published.  about Gnome Device Manager
[03:10] <sab> lucid: it says no items match "gnome-device"  .... it didnt even let me finish typing
[03:10] <lucid> sab: hmmmm let me try it on mine . what version ubuntu you running ????
[03:11] <sab> topper4125: thanks
[03:11] <sab> lucid: quantal
[03:11] <topper4125> !info hardinfo
[03:12] <topper4125> that package may be as close as it gets until device manager gets updated
[03:12] <sab> ubottu: i will get that .. but the prob is not that i cant find the second gpu - i can see it if i type lspci
[03:13] <KI4RO> bobweaver: I found a solution for the screen going black problem:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/216783/ubuntu-12-10-turn-screen-off-when-inactive-for-never-still-turns-off
[03:13] <sab> i am also looking at libdevicemapper packages
[03:14] <RyanBrunswick> Hey everyone. Have any of you had any luck getting XFCE or LXDE to look/behave like Unity or GNOME 3?
[03:14] <Chegy> hey guys, any of you good with setting up drivers for backtrack? I'm getting an error when using airmon-ng: r871x_usb_drv - [phy3]mon0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:14] <lucid> sab: here is the deb file to add to your repository for gnome-device-manager    ---->  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gnome-device-manager/gnome-device-manager_0.2-3_i386.deb
[03:15] <lucid> Chegy: i use backtrack 5 r3 on virtualbox , i will try to help you
[03:15] <sab> lucid: i am x64
[03:15] <RyanBrunswick> I like Unity but I've got an older laptop that slows down under it substantially compared to lighter weight DE's
[03:16] <sab> lucid: its okay i got the x64 from there thanks
[03:19] <sab> lucid: i might have to wait - it has unsatisfiable depends
[03:19] <Beelsebob> Hiya, does anyone know of anything I can use to quickly time profile a process without needing to install kexts?
[03:19] <yhusha_> doing apt-get dist-upgrade within a live enviroment gets this responce for just about every package: Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
[03:19] <yhusha_> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[03:19] <yhusha_> Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)
[03:20] <lucid> sab: try this  --->  http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~david/gnome-device-manager/
[03:20] <yeats> yhusha_: what's your end goal - you usually wouldn't be dist-upgrading in a live CD/USB environment
[03:21] <sab> lucid: it says no repos found
[03:21] <lucid> sab: lol ok
[03:21] <lucid>  i am going to all wiki pages and everything
[03:22] <yhusha_> yea not usualy just got done writing a toram feature with persistant storage for ubuntu12.04 and it seemed like something else to do
[03:22] <lucid> sab:   go here -->  http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/main/base/network-manager-gnome
[03:23] <yeats> yhusha_: this might help, but sounds like you've got a special setup so not sure: http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2010/12/30/tip-getting-rid-of-common-errors-in-chroot-mode/
[03:23] <yhusha_> nice
[03:24] <sab> lucid: i have that installed already
[03:24] <lucid> sab: gnome device manager is on that page also
[03:25] <yhusha_> thats exactly it
[03:25] <lucid> sab: go here  ---->  http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~david/gnome-device-manager/
[03:26] <yhusha_> so how to interupt the dist-upgrade
[03:26] <moose-machine> hi. i have just rooted my samsung galaxy s2. I was wondering if there was a way to backup its /efs folder using ubuntu instead of purchasing the root exploerer app? Thanks.
[03:27] <sab> lucid: packages are only for natty lucid and hardy - none for quantal yet
[03:27] <lucid> sab: hmmm ok thats wierd , but it is still in beta
[03:29] <moose-machine> anyone?
[03:29] <sab> lucid: i can wait until the quantal package - in the meantime i might try this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[03:29] <blackshirt> hellio
[03:30] <yhusha_> maybe aptoncd app
[03:31] <yhusha_> for backup
[03:32] <moose-machine> yhusha_: hi. is that suggestion for the /efs backup on my android? thx.
[03:32] <yhusha_> yea
[03:32] <moose-machine> thx. is that app available in the play store or in the Ubuntu Software Centre?
[03:33] <yhusha_> software center should have it
[03:33] <yhusha_> if not\
[03:33] <moose-machine> yhusha_: ok. thanks. i will take a look now.
[03:33] <yhusha_> synaptic
[03:34] <moose-machine> yhusha_: ok. i have aptoncd installed in my machine. how do i use it now?
[03:35] <yhusha_> not very familiar with it but its pretty self explanatory
[03:35] <relipse> how do i make the close, minimize and maximize buttons on the top right of the window instead of the top left
[03:35] <yhusha_> with that and a little blogging it'll be back'd up in no time
[03:35] <yhusha_> it will save it as a burnable file
[03:36] <yhusha_> cd/dvd/flash etc
[03:36] <moose-machine> yhusha_: ok. so i launch it from the terminal?
[03:36] <yhusha_> mmm
[03:36] <yhusha_> should be able to launch from an icon
[03:37] <yhusha_> but it that dont work there is a x command for it
[03:37] <b0ot> Anyone use any wireless sd cards with ubuntu successfully?
[03:38] <relipse> how do i make the close, minimize and maximize buttons on the top right of the window instead of the top left
[03:38] <moose-machine> ok. running it now. let's see how it goes. this software is making a backup CD of my ubuntu system. I was wondering if it can do the same for my rooted Android.
[03:38] <lucid> relipse: go here and the instructions are there  --> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/config-desktop/C/window-button-order.html
[03:38] <yhusha_> is ubuntu on it?
[03:39] <yhusha_> if not maybe link it some how and mount then back it up like that
[03:39] <yhusha_> theres a few options to play around with
[03:39] <moose-machine> on my android? no. it is a newly flashed galaxy s2. i have connected it to my laptop using a usb cable. and i wish to access its /efs folder for backing up on my laptop.
[03:56] <lucid> later everyone , time for bed
[04:04] <fubada> hi, how come ubuntu-server 12.04->12.10 upgrade is requiring xorg and unity new pkg installs
[04:04] <fubada> nothing about that is mentioned in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer#From_12.04_to_12.10
[04:05] <ZL> 能不能让ubuntu的系统时间静止在某一刻？
[04:06] <ZL> 用C语言编程实现
[04:15] <escott> fubada, must be getting pulled in by some package you have installed
[04:16] <Oracle989> So, uhh.  i was having some issues with Minecraft and saw that installing Nvidia's drivers might help fix it.  It broke a lot of things.  My maximum resolution is now 800x600 stretched beyond the boundaries of a 1600x900 screen and I have no support for external displays.  I did this: http://www.techlw.com/2012/08/install-nvidia-unix-driver-30432-on.html
[04:16] <fubada> escott: that seems to be the case, I have xbmc installed along woith xorg
[04:17] <fubada> but i cannot figure out why I'd need accounts-facebook and etc
[04:17] <RickZilla> Ok, I think I'm just about done testing out 12.10, how much different is 12.04? Should I install 12.04 instead since it is LTS?
[04:17] <Oracle989> I'm on 12.10, I guess that's relevant to my issue.
[04:17] <fubada> RickZilla: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer#From_12.04_to_12.10
[04:17] <fubada> Im going to 12.10 now because I need libmtp 1.1.5
[04:17] <fubada> to mount my samsung galaxy as usb
[04:18] <fubada> mtp
[04:18] <RickZilla> fubada: Thanks, I'll check it out
[04:21] <Oracle989> So I suppose the crux of my question is "oh mother of god what have I done"
[04:24] <d-snutz> my system crashed i can get get to the desktop but nothing else
[04:24] <d-snutz> mint 13
[04:25] <d-snutz> what should i do to try to recover it?
[04:25] <lexngton> seriously
[04:25] <lexngton> i guess boot from the cd and fix broken packages?
[04:25] <lexngton> i guess
[04:25] <lexngton> or try safe graphics mode
[04:25] <wN_> d-snutz: are you unable to do anything with ANY user?
[04:26] <lexngton> brb
[04:26] <wN_> d-snutz: you may want to create a new user for testing.
[04:26] <d-snutz> I have a dual boot for the guest i can get in there... wN
[04:26] <wN_> d-snutz: if you can get in with a new user, there is something f-ed up in your main user configuration. those configs are stored under /home
[04:27] <d-snutz> I guess im effed because im not a linux guru wN_
[04:27] <wN_> d-snutz: i'll translate that to 'hey wn. can you walk me through creating a new user?'
[04:27] <d-snutz> wN_ dud im a dumb A i installed compiz experimental
[04:27] <d-snutz> no its effed
[04:28] <d-snutz> *now
[04:28] <wN_> :)
[04:28] <wN_> did you install via terminaL?
[04:28] <d-snutz> yes
[04:28] <wN_> d-snutz: try hitting ctr+alt+f2 and hitting return a couple of times
[04:29] <wN_> if you can get to a prompt you can uninstall that package to see if it helps
[04:29] <wN_> if f2 doesnt work, try f3-f10
[04:29] <d-snutz> wN_ im gonna try
[04:29] <wN_> d-snutz: sure. :)
[04:29] <d-snutz> I got in alt f2 but couldnt get it uninstalled
[04:30] <wN_> why not?
[04:31] <d-snutz> wN_ cuz im a computer illiterate f-tard
[04:31] <shuggans> hello all!
[04:32] <angelpossum> hello
[04:32] <wN_> d-snutz: did you try? did you get errors? are you confused about what commands to run?
[04:32] <shuggans> can anyone help me with a networking issue in server 12.1?
[04:32] <d-snutz> wN_ confused
[04:32] <wN_> shuggans: maybe. you should ask your question and see
[04:32] <wN_> d-snutz: let me connect to my ubuntu box
[04:32] <d-snutz> Im in alt-f2 now
[04:33] <meowmeow> what would happen if i refuse to upgrade ?
[04:33] <wN_> d-snutz: what package did you say you installed?
[04:33] <wN_> meowmeow: nothing.
[04:33] <d-snutz> wN_ my ubuntu machine work well.  my new machine didnt work well with ubuntu so its mint
[04:33] <shuggans> I can ping google.com - so DNS is resolving + LAN settings are working
[04:33] <d-snutz> wN_ compiz experimental
[04:33] <wN_> d-snutz: mint is ubuntu :P
[04:33] <shuggans> but when I ping a Windows host on the LAN I cannot reach it
[04:33] <wN_> kk let me see
[04:33] <wN_> shuggans: can you ping it?
[04:34] <shuggans> no
[04:34] <shuggans> but i dont get an unreachable message
[04:34] <d-snutz> wN_ I can see my desktop and hear it loading apps but cant get a menu or terminal
[04:34] <shuggans> it just hangs
[04:34] <d-snutz> wN_ Yeah
[04:34] <wN_> shuggans: you may want to get wireshark and check out whats going on on the interface of both machines
[04:35] <shuggans> fresh install of both
[04:36] <shuggans> I can ping the ubuntu machien from the windows host.  but cant ping the windows hsot from the ubuntu machine without it just sitting there and doing nothing
[04:36] <wN_> d-snutz: im googling a bit. are you able to login to ubuntu2d when you enter your password? im not sure if thats available for you
[04:36] <wN_> shuggans: perhaps your windows machine doesn't respond to pings. do you have another machine you can test with?
[04:36] <shuggans> yeah
[04:37] <wN_> and it responds fine?
[04:37] <shuggans> let me connect it and report back
[04:37] <wN_> can you ping the gateway from the linux box?
[04:37] <d-snutz> wN_ yes
[04:37] <wN_> d-snutz: does hta tmake a difference?
[04:37] <d-snutz> wN_ lemme see
[04:38] <shuggans> i can ping the gateway yes
[04:38] <wN_> hmmm
[04:39] <shuggans> bringing the other machien up now to test a ping to it
[04:39] <d-snutz> wN_ unable to find default provider unity panel
[04:40] <wN_> shuggans: open 2 terminals. in 1 type: tcpdump host 192.168.0.1
[04:40] <wN_> in the other type ping 192.168.0.1
[04:40] <wN_> cha;nge that ip to your windows box ip
[04:40] <wN_> do you see any output?
[04:41] <wN_> d-snutz: can you do anything in that environment?
[04:41] <d-snutz> wN_ in gnome i can see my desktop with virtual machine desktop icons
[04:42] <d-snutz> but no panel
[04:42] <wN_> what happens when you hit super? (windows key)
[04:42] <d-snutz> nada
[04:42] <wN_> k
[04:43] <d-snutz> wN_ is there a shortcut for a terminal in mint
[04:43] <wN_> d-snutz: i dont know.
[04:43] <wN_> d-snutz: go back to tty2 (alt+Ctrl+F2) and type:
[04:43] <wN_>  dpkg --get-selections | grep compiz
[04:43] <wN_> do you see the compiz package you installed?
[04:44] <d-snutz> wN_ alright
[04:45] <wN_> d-snutz: you may also want to check in /var/log/dpkg.log to see what was added/removed
[04:45] <wN_> if htat file xists
[04:45] <wN_> $ less /var/log/dpkg.log
[04:46] <wN_> press G to go to the bottom and see what it did. then back out of thos echanges by runnign: apt-get remove <package>
[04:46] <shuggans> stupid me - netork discovery + file + print sharing was turned off (PUKE: Server 2008)
[04:46] <wN_> shuggans: :D
[04:46] <shuggans> wN_ Thanks a bunch for your help!
[04:46] <d-snutz> wN_ it says about 10 packs in red ---- right column says install....  I purged all compiz earlier in an attempt to fix it.... maybe i screwed  up
[04:47] <wN_> install means it was installed, or is installed
[04:47] <wN_> d-snutz: do you see the experimental package?
[04:47] <d-snutz> wN_ it say "install"
[04:47] <wN_> is that yes?
[04:48] <allquixotic> How can I disable the "hand" that tries to move the window when I hold alt and left click on a window? I want the application to process the input not the window manager
[04:48] <d-snutz> wN_ i dont see it.  could it be bc i got it through wget
[04:48] <wN_> allquixotic: try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/118151/disable-alt-for-window-move-in-gnome-shell
[04:48] <jesusemelendezm> hi
[04:48] <wN_> actually, thats for gnome-shell]
[04:49] <wN_> allquixotic: try this:
[04:49] <wN_> gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier --type string disabled
[04:50] <allquixotic> wN_: I ended up disabling the "Move Windows" plugin in ccsm per http://askubuntu.com/questions/151252/altleft-click-how-to-remove-shortcut
[04:50] <d-snutz> wN_ here is how i treid to remove it but it wouldnt do it
[04:50] <allquixotic> not running metacity so that's not useful; not running gnome-shell so that's not useful
[04:50] <d-snutz> ]http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/install-compiz-experimental-plugins-in.html
[04:51] <killer> i there a way using apt-get ,so that, i can hold a package and prevent that particular package from upgrading (like firefox)?
[04:52] <dysun> so i installed RANCID for network configuration backups. i got the thing to email me. i'm just not sure what this means for the output. i was hoping someone could tell me..... retrieving revision 1.8
[04:52] <dysun> diff -u -4 -r1.8 10.180.136.1
[04:52] <dysun> @@ -336,22 +336,11 @@
[04:52] <FloodBot1> dysun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:52] <wN_> d-snutz: did you try running: ./compiz-addons uninstall all
[04:53] <wN_> from the same directory?
[04:53] <d-snutz> wN_ yep, it said -bash not a valid command or something
[04:53] <wN_> were you in the correct directory?
[04:53] <wN_> you sould be in:
[04:53] <wN_> ~/compizexperimental/
[04:53] <wN_> so:
[04:54] <wN_> $ cd ~/compizexperimental/; ./compiz-addons uninstall all
[04:55] <d-snutz> wN_ Im in! in gnome no effects
[04:55] <wN_> cool :)
[04:56] <IdlePhD> join ##security
[04:56] <angelpossum> hoe do you switch servers
[04:57] <angelpossum> whoops how
[04:57] <jesusemelendezm> hi
[04:57] <angelpossum> uh hi
[05:00] <angelpossum> how do i change server
[05:00] <wN_> angelpossum: change what?
[05:00] <angelpossum> my server
[05:00] <wN_> from what, to what?
[05:01] <gnomefreak> do they make laptops that use 3/4g?
[05:01] <wN_> gnomefreak: verizon sells a 4g internet thingy you can connect to your laptop. i suppose its possible it could be built in
[05:01] <angelpossum> i just want to know how change it
[05:01] <wN_> angelpossum: change it to what?
[05:02] <gnomefreak> wN_: cool thanks
[05:02] <angelpossum> to any thing i guess
[05:02] <wN_> angelpossum: :)
[05:02] <wN_> angelpossum: are you trying to upgrade?
[05:02] <angelpossum> what do you recammend
[05:02] <bluebomber> dmesg shows a lot of messages like "usb 4-1: reset high-speed USB device number 2 using ehci_hcd" for me; can anyone tell me how I can quickly find out exactly which drive "usb 4-1" is?
[05:03] <angelpossum> no just change server
[05:03] <wN_> angelpossum: im not sure what that means.
[05:04] <angelpossum> like going from the one we'er on to a diffrent one what do you have in mind
[05:05] <wN_> bluebomber: # ls -l /dev/disk/by-path  | grep usb
[05:05] <wN_> does that work?
[05:05] <wN_> `[jack@jack-desktop ~]$ ls -l /dev/disk/by-path | grep usb
[05:05] <wN_> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 9 Dec  1 00:03 pci-0000:00:1c.3-usb-0:5:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 -> ../../sdb
[05:05] <TheMadDrizzle> Anyone have any real experiance getting conky to cooperate?
[05:05] <wN_> TheMadDrizzle: what're you trying to do?
[05:05] <angelpossum> do i type that in te bar im writing in now
[05:06] <wN_> angelpossum: i still do not understand what you're trying to change from/to. What are you running now?
[05:06] <angelpossum> tell him to shut up and listen
[05:06] <TheMadDrizzle> wN_: I'm trying to get it to stick onto the background of the desktop, when ubuntu boots.  I have it set to do so, but it overrides everything, i only want it stuck to the background
[05:06] <angelpossum> calvin on linix/ubunto
[05:06] <angelpossum> er calvino
[05:07] <TheMadDrizzle> wN_: I have ' own_window_type override ' enabled on boot, and if I comment it out, and reload conky, then uncomment that line and reload, it will work perfectly, what gives?
[05:07] <wN_> let me find my conky config
[05:07] <bluebomber> wN: It looks promising, but I cannot see the correspondence (for me).
[05:08] <wN_> bluebomber: what do you see?
[05:08] <angelpossum> gotta go se you later
[05:08] <bluebomber> wN: Example: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Nov 30 20:48 pci-0000:00:13.2-usb-0:4:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 -> ../../sdd, but I don't have an sdd
[05:09] <bluebomber> Err, /dev/sdd doesn't correspond to a present physical drive.
[05:10] <wN_> TheMadDrizzle: its been a longggg time since i've screwed on conky, but my /etc/conky/conky.conf file has the following set:
[05:10] <wN_> own_window yes
[05:10] <wN_> own_window_class Conky
[05:10] <wN_> own_window_type desktop
[05:10] <myhero> can anybody give me link to download pidgin deb
[05:10] <wN_> that sticks it to my desktop.
[05:10] <wN_> myhero: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pidgin
[05:10] <bluebomber> wN: For me, /dev/sdd is an SD card reader, and there is no SD card inserted, so that can't be (?) the "usb 4-1" that keeps being reset, right?
[05:11] <wN_> is there an sdd listed in /proc/partitions?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> myhero: pidgin is in the repos or even installed by default or it was at one time
[05:14] <myhero> complete single pidgin deb installer...also is there any trustworthy site from where i can download debs in future?
[05:15] <wN_> myhero: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:15] <bhavesh> I got this when gparted finished scanning my dev/sda partitions, http://imgur.com/hOeBN (I think it is because of pen drivers I attached) what does it mean and what am I supposed to do?
[05:15] <bhavesh> dev/sdc**
[05:16] <myhero> wN: imean full deb for offline installation
[05:16] <fahad__> Hi , Is the ubuntu on android,  apk opensource yet
[05:16] <wN_> bhavesh: what is sdc?
[05:16] <TheMadDrizzle> wN_: Does your .conkyrc contain anything such as.... ' own_window_colour brown
[05:16] <TheMadDrizzle> own_window_transparent yes
[05:16] <TheMadDrizzle> own_window_type override '  <-- this is the line I comment and uncomment and it works perfect
[05:16] <wN_> myhero: that should be fu ll installation. you mean dependencies too? they should be on the same site
[05:17] <wN_> TheMadDrizzle:
[05:17] <wN_> http://www.fpaste.org/hukc/
[05:18] <gnomefreak> is gnome-art still in the 12.0 repos?
[05:18] <gnomefreak> 12.04 even
[05:18] <gnomefreak> sorry 12.10
[05:18] <gnomefreak> its way to oearly/late
[05:18] <bhavesh> wN_ : I think my hard drive is dev/sda, 1st pen drive is dev/sdb and 2nd pen drive is dev/sdc
[05:18] <TheMadDrizzle> wN_: Hrm, thanks
[05:19] <myhero> wN_: imean single full deb including all dependencies in one deb file for complete offline installation
[05:21] <wN_> bhavesh: can you unplug hte pen drive?
[05:21] <wN_> TheMadDrizzle: i hope that was helpful. I fought with that config for months
[05:21] <wN_> myhero: does that exist?
[05:22] <bhavesh> wN_ I clicked "No" and found out that it is the second pen drive on which I earlier had windows 8 setup
[05:22] <myhero> also is installing ubuntu on android a goodidea ? thats like installing a bigger os on smaller os!
[05:22] <TheMadDrizzle> wN_: I just made my conky.conf the same as my .conkyrc, we'll see what happens.  It's not a super huge deal just a bit annoying =)  Thanks for all help btw!
[05:23] <myhero> wN_: idon't know thatsy i m asking u....but it'll be good n muv
[05:24] <myhero> srry...but it'll b gud if it exists!
[05:24] <fahad__> hi anyone, i am looking for the source code of ubuntu on android,,its and apk which make ubuntu run on android. Do we have it anywhere
[05:25] <wN_> myhero: i think you hav eto download all the dependencies
[05:25] <wN_> myhero: installing ubuntu on android? do you have a document you're following?
[05:27] <fahad__> i think it is internal stuff now .is it my hero
[05:29] <myhero> wN_: currently im chating frm an android mob thatsy im using shorthand n hving all this typos....and asking coz idon't know much about ubuntu on android but would like to try it out
[05:30] <fahad__> thats some apk .it makes you to have ubuntu system working on andorid phone or something
[05:30] <fahad__> cool anyway thanks
[05:31] <bluebomber> wN_: No, no sdd listed in /proc/partitions
[05:32] <bryguy_> I let my kernel be updated assuming my nvidia-current package would be updated along with it. Sadly this is not the case and I've got a crappy generic vga driver working and most of unity is b0rken at the moment. I am unfamiliar with the new grub, how can I revert to the old kernel or cause the nvidia apt packages to be used with the current one?
[05:33] <bryguy_> using 12.10
[05:36] <wN_> bryguy_: i think it works the same way as the old grub. hit a key to get to the menu and select the old kernel
[05:47] <TaZeR> hey everyone im a proud ubuntu user
[05:47] <TaZeR> i love that fuckin shit
[05:47] <BlackScreen> how do i set up a static ip? the dns isnt working when i configure the static ip in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:47] <crimsonmane> !language
[05:47] <ColinApplegate> you need to put your dns server in /etc/resolv.conf
[05:48] <ColinApplegate> i do believe
[05:48] <ColinApplegate> maybe that's old school
[05:48] <ColinApplegate> i've been out of it for awhile :D
[05:48] <TaZeR> familys are gay
[05:48] <BlackScreen> thanks ColinApplegate
[05:48] <ColinApplegate> np BlackScreen
[05:48] <TaZeR> people should just spend their lives on their computers
[05:48] <ColinApplegate> TaZeR, we do, man. :)
[05:48] <TaZeR> in solitude forever
[05:49] <crimsonmane> TaZeR: i don't think this is a place for you to be.
[05:49] <TaZeR> but i like it here its warm and cozy
[05:49] <wN_> i dont use ubuntu.
[05:49] <ColinApplegate> i'm excited about openstack :D
[05:49] <TaZeR> why not?
[05:49] <wN_> i use fedora.
[05:50] <wN_> ColinApplegate: yes. openstack is good juju
[05:50] <ColinApplegate> i just put together a box to test it out on
[05:50] <ColinApplegate> i have five computers in here. disgusting! lol
[05:50] <wN_> BlackScreen: To configure your system to use DNS for name resolution, add the IP addresses of the DNS servers that are appropriate for your network in the file /etc/resolv.conf. You can also add an optional DNS suffix search-lists to match your network domain names.
[05:51]  * TaZeR is using X-Sys v2.2.0 (http://dev.gentoo.org/~chainsaw/xsys)
[05:51] <TaZeR> os[Linux 3.5.0-19-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "quantal" 12.10] cpu[8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 3.90GHz] mem[Physical: 1.9GB, 68.3% free] disk[Total: 39.4GB, 84.8% free] video[VMware SVGA II Adapter] sound[ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI]
[05:51] <wN_> ew
[05:51] <TaZeR> there we go
[05:51] <TaZeR> its a virutual machine =)
[05:51] <wN_> TaZeR: whats your hypervisor?
[05:52] <wN_> im not sure what +q is, but it looks bad.
[05:52] <wN_> :P
[05:52] <ColinApplegate> lol
[05:52] <ColinApplegate> quiet, perhaps? :)
[05:52] <Myrtti> TaZeR: feel free to join #ubuntu-ops to discuss your mute in 6hours
[05:53] <wN_> >_>
[05:53] <wN_> those admins are sneaky. learking in the darkness waiting to strike
[05:53] <wN_> liek venoms snakes!
[05:53] <jamamp> So, hi all. just installed Ubuntu (12.10, 32bit) on my 2010 macbook
[05:53] <jamamp> this is exciting
[05:53] <ColinApplegate> wow! good job. :)
[05:53] <wN_> venomous*
[05:53] <ColinApplegate> why not 64-bit?
[05:54] <topper4125> Myrtti ty
[05:54] <nowayride> jamamp: did you have any issues with wireless? A coworker of mine tried 12.04 and had a lot of issues.
[05:54] <jamamp> i heard there were problems based off processors and I was too lazy to check
[05:54] <wN_> being.lazy++
[05:54] <jamamp> nowayride: WiFi worked right off the livecd
[05:54] <ColinApplegate> back in the day i ran 64-bit ubuntu on my 2007 MBP
[05:55] <nowayride> jamamp: nice, Ubuntu is certainly nice :)
[05:55] <jamamp> ColinApplegate, not like 32 is significantly slower, though :P
[05:55] <ColinApplegate> hehehe
[05:55] <ColinApplegate> i just built a box for win 2k8 server. heresy! lol.
[05:55] <jamamp> Question, does the apt-get remove unity-lens-shopper require a reboot to work?
[05:55] <nowayride> ColinApplegate: Win2k8 makes me cry
[05:56] <ColinApplegate> nowayride: I have to know it for work. I need my MCITP.
[05:57] <nowayride> ColinApplegate: I do too unfortunately, but it's lols to log into a server and see torrent clients
[05:57] <ColinApplegate> haha
[05:57] <Dupree> Hy gang I'm a newbie at this IRC rap
[05:57] <ColinApplegate> Dupree: welcome
[05:57] <jamamp> same here Dupree, only use it sparingly
[05:57] <DialZ> I don't want to waste anyone's time, so maybe there is a page someone can direct me to. Installed 12.10, have an ATI 5XXX series card (5670).
[05:57] <nowayride> Or better yet.. do a password reset, log back in, a bot for a random MMO pops up
[05:58] <Dupree> Anything I could learn about getting onto a proxy?
[05:58] <DialZ> Stuff was slow, so I installed the BETA AMD catalyst drivers. WOO it was faster.
[05:58] <DialZ> Then update manager ran and updated a bunch of stuff including unity and compiz
[05:58] <DialZ> Now I have no Unity on my desktop.
[05:59] <DialZ> I am willing to return to a slower working state, but do not know what to do. I can open a terminal with CTRL-ALT-f1 of course...
[05:59] <DialZ> Anyone have any advice or can point me anywhere?
[05:59] <bluebomber> wN_: Do you have any other suggestions regarding the USB device correspondence?
[06:00] <topper4125> DialZ, did you try logging out of your acct, and back in again? Check that Unity is still selected.
[06:00] <dangersalad> Hey, quick question. I am using awesome wm from ubuntu's repos and I want to try out the latest stable version from source. How can I make sure I can revert back to the repo version if the newer version turns out to not work well?
[06:01] <Dupree> 12.04 has a selection of desktops does 12.10
[06:02] <DialZ> topper4125: Iĺl try
[06:02] <Dupree> being that you said u did not have unity anymore,DailZ
[06:03] <DialZ> Well, all the unity interface stuff is missing from my desktop now.
[06:03] <DialZ> Eg: The sidebar, window decorations, ect..
[06:03] <Dupree> sounds serious
[06:04] <DialZ> I am guessing maybe something wasn't happy with the AMD Catalyst beta drivers  had installed (maybe)?
[06:04] <DialZ> I'd like to just revert to the slow working drivers if possible
[06:05] <bluebomber> Does anyone know how to obtain the relationship between /dev/sd* and "usb 4-1" for usb devices?
[06:05] <prashant_123456> how to completely uninstall xubuntu
[06:06] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, bazhang  thanks problem solved
[06:06] <shuggans> wN_ still on?
[06:06] <DialZ> Hm, looks like itś probably something like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081053
[06:07] <shuggans> Can anyone help me with a config issue with pptpd on Ubuntu Server 12.1 ?
[06:07] <shuggans> I can ping host names on the actual LAN... but when VPNed into that LAN I cant ping host names.
[06:08] <topper4125> DialZ, take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966573
[06:08] <DarkAceLaptop> when you sudo apt-get install unity does it include the login manager as well?
[06:10] <ClientAlive> ok. so I have gnome 3, installed compiz and cccsm, and did a "compiz --replace". Now I have no gnome panels and have no way to access/launch apps. Any way to get some basic functionality back and keep using compiz too?
[06:11] <shuggans> can you open a terminal?
[06:11] <bazhang> ClientAlive, alt f2 works?
[06:11] <ClientAlive> nothing
[06:11] <ClientAlive> can get a terminal with crrl+alt+t though
[06:12] <bazhang> ClientAlive, this is in gnome-shell , or unity
[06:12] <crimsonmane> ctrl alt f1, sudo useradd, sudo shutdown -r now
[06:12] <shuggans> ClientAlive: do you jsut have text available with no GUI?
[06:13] <ClientAlive> I have gui, have my same desktop background, and the apps I had open when I did compiz --replace. Prolly could lanuch apps via the terminal but that's not the idea
[06:13] <ClientAlive> not unity. i installed 12.04 server then installed gnome 3, and now this
[06:14] <ClientAlive> is it really safe to reboot?
[06:15] <shuggans> do a sudo apt-get update
[06:15] <ClientAlive> ok
[06:16] <shuggans> then try sudo apt-get install --?
[06:16] <shuggans> theres one of the commands listed that will try and find reuqired packages if I recall correctly
[06:16] <shuggans> maybe you are missing a dependancy.  did you see any erros when installing compiz?
[06:16] <ClientAlive> did that and *upgrade to see results. Everything is up to date - 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove...
[06:17] <ClientAlive> err. not while installing but I think there was something after the compize --replace. I don't have that terminal window any longer.
[06:17] <shuggans> did you install your grphics cards drivers?
[06:17] <shuggans> did you install your graphics cards drivers?
[06:17] <ClientAlive> nvidia proprietary drivers, yes. and compiz effects work fine - just no panels
[06:18] <shuggans> hmm.  hold up a sec
[06:18] <ClientAlive> k
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> !alis > lotuspsychje
[06:20] <shuggans> ClientAlive
[06:20] <ClientAlive> yes
[06:20] <shuggans> try these 3 commands
[06:20] <ClientAlive> ok
[06:20] <shuggans> "gconftool -recursive-unset /apps/panel"
[06:21] <dangersalad> Any way to get ircii in xterm to have some color highlighting?
[06:21] <shuggans> "rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel"
[06:21] <dangersalad> for nicks and other message tyoes
[06:21] <shuggans> "pkill gnome-panel"
[06:23] <shuggans> ClientAlive: any change?
[06:23] <ClientAlive> shuggans: I wanted to do a super quick check of something first. I did a "ls ~/.gconf/apps/panel" and the response printed to screen was "ls: cannot access /home/shine/.gconf/apps/panel: No such file or directory"
[06:24] <shuggans> Hmmm
[06:24] <blackshirt> nothing there
[06:24] <ClientAlive> mmm hmm. here is the content of ~/.gconf/apps
[06:24] <ClientAlive> hang on
[06:25] <ClientAlive> compiz-1        ekiga  evolution    %gconf.xml  gnome-do        metacity  nm-applet
[06:25] <ClientAlive> ..  compizconfig-1  eog    file-roller  gedit-2     gnome-terminal  nautilus  totem
[06:26] <ClientAlive> all dfirectories except the .xml file
[06:26] <shuggans> try "gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnone-panel"
[06:26] <relipse>  is there a way to see if my windwos c++ app is running on WINE?
[06:26] <ClientAlive> ok
[06:26] <shuggans> try "gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall -e gnone-panel" *****
[06:26] <shuggans> if the first doesnt work
[06:27] <ClientAlive> response: "gnone-panel: no process found"
[06:27] <shuggans> try "gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall -e gnone-panel" (with the -e switch as well)?
[06:27] <ClientAlive> gnone-panel: no process found
[06:27] <TheLordOfTime> shuggans, he may want to see if gnome-panel is running via `pidof gnome-panel` first
[06:28] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[06:28] <TheLordOfTime> if he's getting 'no process found' its not running :p
[06:29] <shuggans> I think you should nuke the install of gnome-panel and reinstall
[06:29] <shuggans> "sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome-panel"
[06:29] <ClientAlive> can I do something like /init-d/whatever --restart (or whatever that is) ?
[06:29] <blackshirt> sure
[06:29] <ClientAlive> why would I want to remove gnome panel? are we on the same page here?
[06:29] <shuggans> "/etc/init.d/gnome-panel restart" maybe
[06:30] <ClientAlive> I'm trying to get gnome panel back
[06:30] <shuggans> remove it, then reinstall
[06:30] <shuggans> "sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome-panel", then "sudo apt-get install gnome-panel"
[06:31] <Mechdave> shuggans, You may not be able to uninstall gnome-panel... It is part of the ubuntu desktop meta package
[06:31] <shuggans> Hmm... have you killed the GUI since you isntalled Compiz?
[06:32] <ClientAlive> no, everything else works fine just have no panels and no way to access apps through gui
[06:34] <shuggans> ANyone know the command to change to the runlevel without GUI?
[06:34] <ClientAlive> here's something interesting: A line from ps aux | less  "uname     1312  2.9  0.2 366044 44304 ?        Sl   Nov30  14:54 compiz --replace"
[06:34] <shuggans> i think runlevel 3 and then back to runlevel 5 to restart the GUI?
[06:36] <shuggans> go "sudo init 3"
[06:36] <shuggans> then "sudo init 5"
[06:36] <shuggans> itll kill the X service and init 5 will bring it back up
[06:36] <ClientAlive> ok
[06:37] <shuggans> it may be configured right, jsut needing restarted
[06:37] <shuggans> that's my best idea
[06:37] <ClientAlive> does this mean anything? ""
[06:37] <ClientAlive> shine    28592  0.0  0.0  26688   528 ?        S    Nov30   0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome
[06:37] <ClientAlive> -session --session=gnome
[06:38] <ClientAlive> k
[06:38] <shuggans> I havnt messed with GUI in Linux for a while... not sure what the output looked like
[06:39] <shuggans> just throwing you ideas :S
[06:39] <_andyj_> what would cause apt-get to return 504 when wget to same address works on same box?
[06:40] <ClientAlive> no change
[06:41] <ClientAlive> I see a lot of gnome stuff in ps aux but no gnome-panel
[06:42] <ClientAlive> I can try rebooting. if it blows up on me and the computer breaks I have a laptop I can use to figure out how to fix er'
[06:42] <shuggans> _andyj_: are you using the right protocol for apt?
[06:42] <shuggans> lol, ok
[06:42] <ClientAlive> ere' goes nothin'
[06:42] <shuggans> ClientAlive: Sorry I couldnt be of more assistance :(
[06:42] <ar9> how can i install the minimal kde-desktop, kwin, taskbar, kdm
[06:43] <_andyj_> shuggans: not sure what you mean by that, I am just typing sudo apt-get update in terminal
[06:43] <ar9> the lightest kde possible? from netinstall
[06:43] <topper4125> Although “Gateway Timeout” is usually reported as the reason for HTTP 504 errors, they can also arise from problems with proxies, which are slightly different from gateways in that they do not act like origin servers.
[06:44] <DialZ> topper4125: Looks like the problem was that the beta catalyst drivers were actually built using the kernel headers for the pre-update kernel.
[06:44] <_andyj_> shuggans: maybe I should expand on what I have been setting up, I run kvm/qemu with multiple ubuntu machines and I installed apt-cacher to not be so heavy on requests to ubuntu repo's...  it works for all machines except this one, but when I wget to the repos I can access the files just fine
[06:45] <DialZ> I needed to remove completely all that stuff, apt-get install the new linux-headers, then reinistall the amd catalyst drivers
[06:45] <topper4125> ar9, take a look at this: [solved] minimal KDE install: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1651269
[06:45] <DialZ> I guess I'll make notes --  think that will happen with each kernel update
[06:46] <topper4125> DialZ, yikes... sounds like those notes will come in handy in the future.
[06:47] <_andyj_> sorry, had an old line in my apt.conf sorry for bother
[06:48] <ClientAlive> well, looks like I'm back to square one. Of course, compiz is still installed but not running/in effect. Maybe I better figure out the proper way to get it working  :P
[06:50] <gangband> sall
[06:51] <ClientAlive> foud this -> "You can't use Compiz in GNOME Shell, but you can in Classic."
[06:52] <mkhan3189> Hi I hav question about multi display (connecting three monitors) using nVdia GT 610
[06:53] <mkhan3189> if someone has had any experience please let me know
[06:54] <shuggans> In Windows with ATI not NVIDIA...
[06:54] <shuggans> :S
[06:55] <shuggans> the application controling the displays should be about the same in linux though
[06:55] <shuggans> not sure if the 3 monitor support is included in linux
[06:55] <_andyj_> I thought only ati cards supported 3 monitors from single card...
[06:55] <_andyj_> but I don't have a 600 series
[06:55] <Diddy> can someone help me update abobe flash. im new to ubuntu
[06:55] <mkhan3189> but it's got three output ports. and it switches
[06:56] <mkhan3189> but prefers DVI and VGA
[06:56] <gangband> E vreun roman pe aici?
[06:56] <mkhan3189> if no DVI is found, it uses HDMI only then
[06:56] <shuggans> Ahhh
[06:56] <gangband> te frige
[06:56] <shuggans> you have to use displayport for 3 monitors
[06:56] <_andyj_> mkhan3189 just because it has 3 ports doesn't guarantee it supports using all 3 at once, my ati card has 5 ports but the dvi and mini-hdmi can't run at same time
[06:56] <shuggans> I dont think you can run d-sub, dvi, and hdmi all at once.
[06:57] <shuggans> they are probably there for convienience of interfaces
[06:57] <mkhan3189> _andyj_ make sense. i guess i will have to go back and go nuts on the guy who said it will support all at once
[06:58] <Diddy> can someone help me update abobe flash. im new to ubuntu
[06:58] <guest2012> ubuntu software center?
[06:59] <_andyj_> mkhan3189 haha, I just saw forum post mentioning that the 640 will support 3 at once but lower won't
[06:59] <mkhan3189> Diddy trying sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[06:59] <shuggans> mkhan3189: ati's 3 monitor deal is called eyefinity, nvidias is called surround.  look up the card model # on the nvidia site to see if it supports it in the first place
[07:00] <mkhan3189> shuggans yea great.
[07:00] <mkhan3189> _andyj_ can you please refer me that link?
[07:00] <Diddy> thanks
[07:01] <_andyj_> mkhan3189:
[07:01] <_andyj_> http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1039127635
[07:01] <crackerjackz> for some reason my sound stopped working after updates, can someone help me figure out what happened?
[07:02] <topper4125> crackerjackz, for some reason, after updates that involve kernal updates, my sound is muted... check volume settings
[07:02] <mkhan3189> _andyj_ thanks for that. will investigate even further!
[07:02] <crackerjackz> topper4125: it says it's not muted
[07:03] <crackerjackz> this is the kernel i have.. 32 bit. 3.2.0-34-generic
[07:04] <topper4125> crackerjackz, k... thought maybe we had the same problem... Keyboard shortcuts to increase/decrease sound *look* like they should work, but always have to open up alsa, and adjust sliders before anything *actually* works
[07:05] <crackerjackz> the fn + up and down arrow keys move the slider up and down but no sound.. lspci detects my soundcard and my volume manager appears to detect my card too
[07:05] <crackerjackz> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[07:05] <qdb> hello. i have installed 12.04 with russian, then selected tatar and english layouts, and i have {only or unchangable } russian layout in ctrl+alt+f1 . i have tried dpkg reconfigure console-data, it helped, but become only english, and become russian back after restart. then i tried dpkg reconfigure console-setup ... it did not help as i remember .. i should rstart something .. or reboot .. i ll look
[07:06] <qualia> when I'm using make, do I type make -D <option> or just make <option>    example:    make WITH_OPTIONS or make -DWITH_OPTIONS
[07:07] <qualia> I don't wanna experiment I need someone to hold my hand.
[07:07] <blackshirt> !halo
[07:07] <blackshirt> !find halo
[07:08] <pr0ton> i can't boot up from USB on Sony Vaio
[07:08] <pr0ton> any ideas?
[07:08] <_andyj_> qualia: hate to tell you this but it depends on the MakeFile for the source your compiling if I recall right
[07:08] <crackerjackz> pr0ton: did you check the BIOS? does it give you the option to boot from USB?
[07:08] <mkhan3189> pr0ton did you change boot sequence?
[07:08] <pr0ton> it says External Device
[07:09] <crackerjackz> pr0ton: did you set it to be the first device it looks or?
[07:09] <pr0ton> but when i press the Assist button it shows me an option to boot from USB/Optical Drive
[07:09] <crackerjackz> for*
[07:09] <pr0ton> yeah i did that
[07:09] <pr0ton> i set "External Device" to be the first
[07:09] <crackerjackz> pr0ton: whats on the usb drive?
[07:09] <pr0ton> and it says "Operating System Not Found"
[07:09] <TheLordOfTime> blackshirt, do you have a support question?
[07:09] <pr0ton> i burned the 12.04.1 ISO to the USB stick
[07:09] <pr0ton> using USB to ISO software
[07:09] <pr0ton> (first google result)
[07:09] <qdb> dont work
[07:09] <pr0ton> i also disabled the UEFI mode and set it to legacy, so i don't know whats wrong
[07:10] <blackshirt> no
[07:10] <crackerjackz> pr0ton: have tried to boot it on another computer?
[07:10] <topper4125> did you check md5 of this .iso?
[07:10] <crackerjackz> just curious if it works on other computers...
[07:10] <pr0ton> this is the other computer
[07:10] <pr0ton> and i'm using it right now
[07:10] <blackshirt> thelordoftime, was ubuntu plan to adapt kfreebsd ?
[07:11] <pr0ton> okay
[07:11] <pr0ton> maybe \md5 is messed
[07:11] <pr0ton> let me check
[07:11] <crackerjackz> pr0ton: what model is your sony vaio?
[07:11] <crackerjackz> maybe there is an update for your bios
[07:12] <pr0ton> right
[07:12] <pr0ton> checking
[07:12] <pr0ton> it's a new one though
[07:12] <pr0ton> but i'll check for a bios update
[07:12] <pr0ton> thanks
[07:12] <FloodBot1> pr0ton: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <crackerjackz> you say the usb drive with ubuntu on it works on other machines right? just not the sony vaio..
[07:13] <crackerjackz> just be careful when you're flashing your bios because you can mess things up, it's usually pretty straight forward though so you should be good
[07:16] <qdb> sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration also dont work
[07:19] <ubuntu_pro> hi there - i'm running precise and i was guided to replace my kernel with 3.4.0-030400-generic to get around a bug where USB3 fills up dmesg
[07:20] <ubuntu_pro> question is what is the preferred method for backing back to the previous kernel release
[07:21] <Mechdave> ubuntu_pro, With your kernel install was it through apt-get or manual install? Do you still have previous kernels installed. The grub boot menu will tell you if you have
[07:21] <ubuntu_pro> Mechdave: yes they are still installed. It was through apt-get.
[07:22] <Mechdave> ubuntu_pro, then it is simply a matter of apt-get purge the pqckages you installed
[07:22] <Mechdave> ubuntu_pro, You in Adelaide?
[07:22] <ubuntu_pro> Is there a way to do it without purging the packages? Just changing the default boot?
[07:23] <ubuntu_pro> Mech: Sydney - from Adelaide originally though :) and will be back in a couple of weeks
[07:24] <Mechdave> ubuntu_pro, Yes, you can change the boot priority in the grub configuration
[07:25] <Mechdave> ubuntu_pro, Thought you were an Aussie, recognise an internode ip anywhere ;)
[07:25] <andis> UBUNBTUUUUUUUUUUUU
[07:26] <ubuntu_pro> Mech: is it just a case of editing grub.cfg manually or is there a utility that modifies it for you
[07:26] <ubuntu_pro> Mech: I can probably hack at it to make it work but I like to find the most appropriate way :)
[07:27] <Mechdave> ubuntu_pro, Have a look here --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order
[07:27] <Mechdave> ubuntu_pro, It gives you a couple of options :)
[07:28] <ubuntu_pro> thank you
[07:29] <Mechdave> ubuntu_pro, no worries :)
[07:29] <g00053> there is a website witch displays a pdf service manual for my car( viewing is free) , they offer a download for 6 bucks. would wget do it for free ?
[07:30] <Mechdave> g00053, I would not endorse that myself. Just pay the $6 It is much cheaper than a paper one!
[07:33] <excalibr> how do you list all packages that were manually installed from local .deb?
[07:34] <topper4125> dpkg -l
[07:35] <topper4125> or dpkg --contents
[07:35] <excalibr> read my question again
[07:36] <topper4125> oh.. soz.. ya kinda glazed over the question...
[07:37] <g00053> Mechdave, yeah fair enough. as soon as I fix my car so I can get to work so I can pay for it . :D
[07:38] <Mechdave> excalibr, do you want to list all the files contained inside a local .deb file?
[07:38] <jebb> im having trouble with a samba server config on ubuntu server
[07:38] <Mechdave> g00053, I know how you feel. Can I PM you?
[07:38] <jebb> i can see the share but i cant access it.
[07:39] <g00053> sure
[07:39] <topper4125> excalibr, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/dpkg.html
[07:39] <excalibr> Mechdave: no, only packages that were installed from manually downloaded deb's (dpkg -i .deb)
[07:40] <Mechdave> excalibr, Hmmm good one. You might have to read the man page for dpkg for that answer
[07:40] <topper4125> from all downloaded deb's, or just one in particular?
[07:41] <excalibr> any
[07:41] <Mechdave> excalibr, Do you still have the downloaded debs?
[07:44] <crackerjackz> for some reason my sound isn't working after updates but my mixer detects the device, any ideas?
[07:52] <yellowcat> Hi everyone!
[07:53] <crackerjackz> hello yellowcat
[07:54] <yellowcat> crackerjackz, nice to meet you. I am an Ubuntu new user!
[07:54] <crackerjackz> yellowcat: welcome to the family
[07:56] <yellowcat> crackerjackz, thank you!
[08:14] <petani> #j planetwork
[08:14] <petani> #list
[08:14] <ashleyludlow> stop listing plz
[08:15] <elky> petani, you need to use / not #
[08:15] <ashleyludlow> no warz here
[08:15] <petani> sory
[08:43] <simple_one> i cant see the google chrome window but it's still running...
[08:44] <simple_one> before i was switching between dual monitor and then the problem showed up
[08:44] <simple_one> monitors*
[08:52] <pbt> !topic
[08:53] <pbt> !code
[08:55] <auronandace> !msgthebot | pbt
[08:55] <Maximus_> Hello, I'm having an issue getting 12.10 live-usb to work
[08:58] <Xabster> I'm so in love with windows 8's new interface (formerly known as metro UI) and I was wondering when I can expect a linux/ubuntu distro with a similar interface
[08:58] <Xabster>  - said noone ever
[08:59] <et_> hello i am using ubuntu 12.10 not lts and i am having probs with nvidia drivers and dual monitors... i notice with the non lts the restricted drivers is gone and when i expirement with the drivers available via the gui i end up with major problems...
[09:00] <et_> i have to reinstall sometimes
[09:00] <et_> if i pick one that really messes up
[09:00] <thomaslove7788> Hello!
[09:00] <Maximus_> USB keyboard and mouse not detected in 12.10 live cd? Custom PC
[09:00] <et_> any help would be appreciated
[09:00] <et_> maximus_ did you make sure usb was set correct in bios
[09:01] <Maximus_> yes, its booting in UEFI mode
[09:01] <et_> hmm then i dunno im here seeking help myself
[09:02] <Xabster> Maximus_, does that mean you're stuck in the install/menu?
[09:02] <Maximus_> i can use the keyboard in grub but as soon as ubuntu starts, nothing works
[09:02] <Xabster> and never get it booted up
[09:02]  * crackerjackz prays to the music gods for sound ;p
[09:03] <et_> can someone plz help me with nvidia drivers and 12.10
[09:03] <et_> kik'
[09:03] <et_> lol
[09:03] <crackerjackz> et_: i can try
[09:03] <et_> okay cool
[09:03] <crackerjackz> et_: what seems to be the problem?
[09:03] <et_> well from what i experienced
[09:04] <Maximus_> Xabster yup, except grub by passed the live/install mode
[09:04] <et_> any driver i pick from the gui is not working worth a crap
[09:04] <Maximus_> just went right on the desktop
[09:04] <et_> and i wonder why restricted drivers is gone
[09:04] <helmut_> hi
[09:04] <crackerjackz> et_: by gui you mean jockey aka "additional drivers" right?
[09:04] <et_> yeah exactly
[09:05] <et_> sorry i should have specified
[09:05] <crackerjackz> et_: well did you upgrade your kernel or anything like that recently?
[09:05] <Maximus_> install the drivers from Nvidias website
[09:05] <et_> nope this is a new install
[09:05] <et_> i was using the lts
[09:05] <et_> im just using the reg 12.10 now
[09:05] <crackerjackz> et_: 32 bit or 64 bit?
[09:05] <et_> 64
[09:06] <thomaslove7788> I am new to Ubuntu. My Ubuntu has 18G free spaces in total. Is it too small?
[09:06] <crackerjackz> what kind of graphics card do you have?
[09:06] <Maximus_> im trying to get my 2 GTX 680s to work also, but I just need to get my keyboard and mouse going
[09:06] <crackerjackz> Maximus_: are they wireless?
[09:07] <Maximus_> the keyboard is a Logitech G19, it's worked in 11.10/12.02 and same with mouse, Logitech G700
[09:07] <thomaslove7788> The reason I gave Ubuntu 18G free space is by default.
[09:07] <et_> nvidia
[09:07] <Maximus_> 12.04
[09:07] <thomaslove7788> I use Ubuntu windows install via (wubi.exe)
[09:08] <Xabster> Maximus_, tried installing some drivers (via usb stick or something)?
[09:08] <Maximus_> How can I install drivers? NO imput device works
[09:09] <Maximus_> im using Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop now, just my custom PC won't have it
[09:09] <Maximus_> I meant 12.10
[09:10] <et_> crackerjackz
[09:10] <et_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500 GT] (rev a1)
[09:11] <scroduck> i created a new user with adduser command. now when i ssh with that user, i can actually view files not owned by him, howcome ? i wanted to restirct him to just his home dir, nothing else outisde
[09:12] <et_> crackerjackz??
[09:12] <dr_willis> set permissions on the other dirs. or look into ssh jails
[09:12] <llutz> scroduck: you need to build a chroot for that user, see wiki for howtos
[09:12] <et_> did you abandon me
[09:12] <et_> lol
[09:12] <dr_willis> or somthing like the rbash shell  scroduck
[09:13] <et_> grrr... has anyone had any luck with ubuntu 12
[09:13] <llutz> scroduck: one example http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/chroot-users-with-openssh-an-easier-way-to-confine-users-to-their-home-directories/229
[09:13] <et_> non lts and nvidia with dual monitors
[09:13] <dr_willis> et_:  12.10 is fine here
[09:14] <et_> sorry i hit enter by mistake
[09:14] <scroduck> wow so just crehard stuff :(
[09:14] <et_> i cant seem to get nvidia drivers working proper
[09:14] <scroduck> hard*
[09:14] <dr_willis> scroduck:  i dont worry about it.. ;-)
[09:14] <et_> im using an nvidia 9500 card
[09:14] <thomaslove7788> et, what happened with your Ubuntu 12, huh?
[09:15] <et_> with 12.10 non lts
[09:15] <et_> well i dunno this is a new instlal
[09:15] <llutz> scroduck: if you want to do that more often, this might be helpful http://olivier.sessink.nl/jailkit/
[09:15] <scroduck> dr_willis: i have a new remote team mate and i need to give him some space on my VPS
[09:15] <et_> the lts i think seems to offer restricted drivers
[09:15] <et_> that work
[09:15] <et_> and the non lts offers this bs
[09:15] <et_> that doesnt work
[09:16] <thomaslove7788> et, do you install from windows or from your cd drive or your USB?
[09:16] <et_> i mean im not worried about a bit of work to get things right
[09:16] <Maximus_> 12.10 is great... expect it won't detect my keyboard or mouse in the live-cd
[09:16] <et_> i just wonder if anyone has a solution yet
[09:16] <llutz> scroduck: "some space"? so you need only sftp not shellaccess? http://www.serverubuntu.it/SFTP-chroot
[09:16] <et_> or has exp same prob
[09:17] <dr_willis> you can  set file/home dirs whete others cant look in tjem..
[09:17] <et_> i notice on google yeah
[09:17] <et_> some ppl are having same probs
[09:17] <et_> but no solutions are really posted
[09:17] <et_> someones gotta know here
[09:17] <et_> lol
[09:17] <et_> cmon
[09:18] <crackerjackz> et_: sry i zoned out
[09:18] <dr_willis> nvidia works on  12.10 for me
[09:18] <crackerjackz> i've been up for a long time...
[09:18] <et_> dr willis
[09:18] <crackerjackz> what kind of graphics card did you say you had again?
[09:18] <et_> what driver are you using
[09:18] <et_> nvidia 9500
[09:19] <dr_willis> whatever nvidia-currect is
[09:19] <et_> hmm
[09:19] <et_> one sec
[09:19] <Maximus_> my two 680s get like 14fps in SLI ubuntu, but if I turn off SLI I get normal speeds.. funny huh? lol
[09:19] <thomaslove7788> et, are you using ubuntu right now? or other OS?
[09:20] <et_> yes right now
[09:20] <et_> but i dont have nvidia driver installed yet
[09:20] <crackerjackz> et_: look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2077418
[09:21] <et_> wow dude
[09:21] <thomaslove7788> et, I use Ubuntu 12.10 and Kubuntu 12.10
[09:21] <et_> nice find
[09:21] <et_> ill check that out
[09:21] <et_> that is exactly my problem though
[09:21] <et_> lol
[09:22] <et_> thanks man
[09:22] <crackerjackz> et_: anytime :)
[09:22] <thomaslove7788> good luck, man
[09:22] <crackerjackz> hope it works, my fingers are crossed for you
[09:23] <vadi2> After some updates, the login screen is not coming up anymore on the computer. When I connected to it remotely and did sudo lightdm start, it did. However it's not starting without it. How can I go about fixing this?
[09:24] <Maximus_> So anybody got any idea whats keeping ubuntu live-cd from detecting my keyboard and mouse? Like how would I even install Ubuntu lol
[09:24] <thomaslove7788> I don't know my ubuntu needs anti-virus software?  I am going to install avast! anti-virus program ...
[09:25] <gordonjcp> Maximus_: is it a USB keyboard?  Is it possible you have some bizarre setting in your BIOS for legacy keyboards
[09:25] <gordonjcp> thomaslove7788: are you running a mailserver?
[09:25] <dr_willis> !av
[09:25] <gordonjcp> thomaslove7788: that's about the only time you'd want an antivirus
[09:25] <thomaslove7788> gordonjcp, Windows 8 Pro
[09:25] <gordonjcp> thomaslove7788: right, but that's not Linux...
[09:26] <gordonjcp> thomaslove7788: unless you're doing some very specific things in Linux that relate to making it a server for Windows machines, you won't need an antivirus
[09:26] <gordonjcp> there are no viruses for Linux, and it seems unlikely that there ever will be
[09:26] <uuvn> i want to know if it is a tool for chenk memory in linux link winhex in windows?anybody who can help me?
[09:26] <Maximus_> My motherboards (asus maximus V extreme) has support for PS/2 keyboards, I thought that might be the problem so i turned it off and on nothing changed.
[09:27] <thomaslove7788> gordonjcp, thanks. I install ubuntu desktop in Windows 8 Pro
[09:27] <gordonjcp> uuvn: what does winhex do?
[09:27] <gordonjcp> thomaslove7788: I don't really understand what that means
[09:28] <uuvn> check memroy
[09:28] <gordonjcp> Maximus_: have you got a PS/2 keyboard you can try?
[09:28] <gordonjcp> uuvn: memtest86?  It's part of the install media
[09:28] <Maximus_> nope
[09:28] <crackerjackz> Maximus_: what are those devices you have again?
[09:28] <crackerjackz> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:29] <uuvn> no i just want crack password,i want to look memory information in hex
[09:29] <crackerjackz> uuvn: what password?
[09:29] <Maximus_> Keyboard: Logitech G19, MouseL Logitech G700 all of these devices worked in Ubuntu 12.04
[09:30] <thomaslove7788> gordonjcp, my ubuntu version is 12.10, it's ubuntu desktop
[09:30] <Maximus_> Im trying to live Boot ubuntu 12.10 off my USB 3.0 flash drive.
[09:31] <gordonjcp> thomaslove7788: I don't understand where Windows comes into that though
[09:31] <uuvn> i find bless,but it has not a function to search memory info like winhex in windows
[09:31] <gordonjcp> uuvn: ooooh, you want to look through a file?
[09:31] <gordonjcp> uuvn: ghex
[09:31] <Maximus_> wait, does linux even support usb 3.0?
[09:31] <crackerjackz> after dell hell my hard drive for hostage for a ransom of 59 dollars i hate passwords.. imbarassingly enough they actualy social engineered me into typing something that would clear the password on the bios but set a password on the hard drive thus holding my files hostage and they wanted 59 bucks for the master password but i cracked the password
[09:31] <uuvn> ok  let me try.thank you!
[09:31] <crackerjackz> held*
[09:31] <Fr0stbyte> Hello, I've installed openvpn access server , but it just doesn't want to create a tun0 interface.. any help? I've searched every tutorial I can find, but no avail.. Gonna pull my hair :p
[09:32] <llutz> Maximus_: linux supports usb3 but does your usb-3 controller support booting?
[09:32] <crackerjackz> well i dont hate passwords.. but i hate that they actually tried to pull a fast one on me like that
[09:32] <thomaslove7788> gordonjcp, it's dual-boot Ubuntu 12.10 and Windows 8 Pro!
[09:32] <crackerjackz> or actually did rather...
[09:33] <gordonjcp> thomaslove7788: okay, so Windows isn't really relevant when it's booted into Linux
[09:33] <crackerjackz> good thing i was smart enough to undo it
[09:33] <gordonjcp> thomaslove7788: I guess you could run an antivirus on Linux, to scan your Windows drive
[09:33] <gordonjcp> thomaslove7788: I don't know if that works, because I don't know anything about Windows
[09:33] <Maximus_> yes it does, it's using the ASMedia Controller not the Intel IvyBridge one (ie its booting from my USB 3.0 on the case no the io shield)
[09:34] <thomaslove7788> gordonjcp, when I start my computer, it has 2 options: (1) Windows 8 Pro (2) Ubuntu 12.10
[09:34] <crackerjackz> Maximus_: do they work from the live cd?
[09:34] <gordonjcp> thomaslove7788: if you boot Linux, then Windows isn't doing anything
[09:34] <gordonjcp> thomaslove7788: Windows viruses won't affect Linux, and there are no Linux viruses
[09:34] <crackerjackz> thomaslove7788: what are you trying to do exactly?
[09:35] <Maximus_> It should.. ima try booting from the io shield this time.
[09:35] <vesh7807> Fr0stbyte:  did you check this article out http://www.shorewall.net/OPENVPN.html
[09:35] <Frostbyte> vesh7807 I changed to my primary nick :p
[09:35] <Maximus_> wtf
[09:35] <Maximus_> my mouse and keyboard working now
[09:35] <crackerjackz> yah gordon is right windows viruses have no effect on linux... none of the files are even in use unless you open them like say you open a song or a picture or something
[09:36] <Maximus_> like with changing anything, I guess the kernel was taking it's sweet time..
[09:36] <Frostbyte> vesh7807: I've copied from the example configurations, and rewrote my settings 2-3 times now.. upon starting, it just doesn't create the interface
[09:36] <thomaslove7788> gordonjcp, if I boot linux, only Ubuntu Linux boots, Windows 8 Pro no not start.
[09:36] <llutz> Frostbyte: does your server have tun-support enabled at all (ie some vps don't)?
[09:37] <Frostbyte> I do not use VPS, it's a home server with no-ip DUC
[09:37] <crackerjackz> Maximus_: there is some command that i can't remember off the top of my head that will show you what drivers the cd is using.. lspci -n or something idr but you copy the output of the command to this website and it tells you what drivers to look for and install
[09:37] <crackerjackz> you have to boot from the cd and then run the command though
[09:37] <crackerjackz> let me see if i can find the website...
[09:38] <llutz> Frostbyte:  grep CONFIG_TUN /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[09:38] <crackerjackz> Maximus_: yeah so..
[09:38] <Frostbyte> llutz : CONFIG_TUN=y
[09:38] <crackerjackz> boot from the cd and type lspci -n then paste the output to this website http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[09:39] <Maximus_> hmm okay quick question does ubuntu support trim?
[09:39] <crackerjackz> i dunno what that is off the top of my head but is that ubuntu cd the same version that you have installed on the computer?
[09:39] <dr_willis> Maximus_:  yes
[09:39] <thomaslove7788> If you want to daul-boot Windows and Ubuntu, you must install Windows OS first, and then Ubuntu Linux
[09:40] <crackerjackz> ^ true
[09:40] <vbgunz> I keep getting dropped to an initramfs prompt and I just cann't get into my system. can anyone here help?
[09:40] <thomaslove7788> crackerjackz, yeah, Ubuntu is very good stuff
[09:40] <crackerjackz> vbgunz: what was the last thing you did before it stopped working?
[09:41] <llutz> Frostbyte: anything in the logs? set "verb 10" for very verbose output
[09:41] <Frostbyte> llutz : okay, sec
[09:41] <crackerjackz> gordonjcp: there are linux viruses.. anyone could write a malicious program but the likelyhood of getting one if you stick to only getting software from the ubuntu repositories is slim
[09:41] <Maximus_> sweet I gotta get my wifi working on my desktop then I'll paste the info into that site
[09:42] <vbgunz> nothing really, the computer froze and I hard to do a hard reset and then no matter what, I get dropped at initramfs
[09:42] <thomaslove7788> Linux Mint 14 has windows install, too. If you want to install Linux Mint 14, it will uninstall your Unbuntu linux
[09:42] <Frostbyte> llutz : I've made the setting and restarted, which log you want?
[09:42] <vbgunz> I can't get passed it and cannot mount /dev/sda1 from another install to save what I can
[09:42] <crackerjackz> humans are the weakest link in security.. that was proven the other night when dell of all people actually held my files hostage
[09:42] <crackerjackz> was my own fault
[09:43] <thomaslove7788> nice to be here. See you!
[09:43] <llutz> Frostbyte: check: "grep openvpn /var/log/* | less"   and look for anything tunX related
[09:44] <Frostbyte> llutz : it made it in it's own directory - I'm fetching a paste - sec
[09:45] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:47] <Frostbyte> llutz : http://pastebin.com/c7aRtHFJ
[09:47] <Maximus_> okay thanks for the help everyone, I honestly didn't think this IRC would help.. which it didn't really help, it kinda fixed itself.. but you tried and thats what counts
[09:47] <Zambz> hey guys, I've just been playing with Python's awesome virtualenv which lets you install python packages in a custom directory and create multiple virtual environments with certain packages.  This got me thinking, does anyone know of a way to do the same with Ubuntu packages via apt-get or similar?  Say for example, I want to install 3 - 4 Debian packages in one directory in environment A and
[09:47] <Zambz> then have a clean environment with a different package in environment B? :) thanks heaps for your help in advance
[09:48] <vbgunz> on my main system, I cannot get past the initramfs prompt. my data is pretty much hostage at this point, if I could just save it I'll be grateful as all hell. can anyone help me at all?
[09:48] <Zambz> Have you considered booting into the CD and trying to mount your hard disk?
[09:48] <Zambz> might be the way to go
[09:49] <crimsonmane> vbgunz: power down system. remove hdd. install hdd to another computer. recover data.
[09:49] <llutz> Frostbyte: you've seen the last lines, correct it
[09:49] <Zambz> to see if your files are safe, you could potentially then plugin a USB drive and copy em on there
[09:49] <Frostbyte> llutz : yeah, I noticed
[09:49] <Maximus_> yea all of my controllers and devices are working, I guess loading it all from usb was talking a long time. the desktop showed up instantly but I couldn't move the mouse or keyboard.
[09:49] <llutz> Frostbyte: seems openvpn doesn't start due to this, thus there couldn't be a tun-device at all
[09:50] <vbgunz> I cannot mount that hdd from another installation.
[09:51] <crimsonmane> why can you not mount the hdd from another installation?
[09:51] <Maximus_> question, would I even need swap space with 16Gbs of RAM?
[09:52] <crimsonmane> Maximus_: if you want to hibernate, yes
[09:52] <crimsonmane> vbgunz: for what reason can you not mount the hdd?
[09:52] <llutz> vbgunz: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/33284/recovering-ext4-superblocks
[09:53] <Maximus_> ah man.. and how much swap would be needed? it's 128GB SSD
[09:53] <zypeh> PHEW
[09:53] <Frostbyte> llutz : if I edit easy-rsa with my openvpn path, I can't create certificates.. I get bash: /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/whichopensslcnf: No such file or directory
[09:53] <crimsonmane> Maximus_: i'd rather not continue this conversation. i am sorry but i do not feel i am qualified to advize
[09:53] <satwood> there is some way where i can ssh into a machine and then let another person see what commands i type : they attach to that terminal, what is it ?
[09:53] <vbgunz> it's a btrfs on /dev/sda1. I am not sure it is a btrfs problem (could be), I just keep getting dropped to an initramfs prompt when trying to boot up directly off the disk. from there, nothing I can do. from this system with the disk attached I run sudo mount -o ro /dev/sda1 /mnt and it just hangs
[09:54] <crimsonmane> Maximus_: i think 16gigs swap
[09:54] <Frostbyte> llutz : I guess I should move it
[09:54] <crimsonmane> satwood: no. ssh will not appear for them. you want Remmina probably for Remote Control
[09:55] <satwood> crimsonmane: where is a way for them to connect to the same tty or something
[09:55] <llutz> Frostbyte: you shouldn't need to move anything. do you have certs created before?
[09:55] <Frostbyte> Frostbyte : yeah, but if it made the certs with "'pwd'" as default export dir, where are the certs?
[09:55] <crimsonmane> satwood: none that i'm aware of. I think "Remote Control" is the simplest and most effective solution for you.
[09:56] <crackerjackz> you think i could overclock a Intel Pentium T2060 / 1.6 GHz to 2.0 GHz with out frying it?
[09:56] <crimsonmane> satwood: when you remote control, they see everything you do
[09:56] <satwood> crimsonmane: i want only for a terminal, not entire desktop, does remote control do that ?
[09:56] <crimsonmane> crackerjackz: that's not so much the question as should be asking "WIll you have any noticable increase in performance" answer is no.
[09:56] <llutz> Frostbyte: whereever $PWD pointed at that time to. use "find" to get them or make new ones in the easy-rsa/keys dir
[09:56] <mojob> quit
[09:56] <crimsonmane> satwood: it's an unfortunate side effect of remote control, but you can just full-screen the terminal.
[09:57] <satwood> crimsonmane: i want only text, connectoin is slow, so looking for text based option only
[09:57] <Frostbyte> llutz : I'll do them from scratch just to be sure, I made some changes
[09:57] <llutz> Frostbyte: usually you do as root: cd /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa ; . ./vars; ./build-ca
[09:57] <crackerjackz> crimsonmane: id say the best thing i could do to increase performance would be to get some RAM, it has a gig in it but everything is still sluggish not really sure why. just got this computer a couple months ago
[09:58] <Frostbyte> llutz : that's what I did now
[09:58] <crimsonmane> satwood: i guess it's time to google
[09:58] <crackerjackz> i'm still curious about overclocking the processor though or maybe even overclocking the RAM
[09:58] <crimsonmane> crackerjackz: a gig is TINY amount of ram
[09:59] <Frostbyte> llutz : a little clarification, does it matter if the client1 cert has the same credentials with server cert? never figured why we need a client1 cert
[09:59] <crimsonmane> crackerjackz: if possible, add a video card (make sure you have enough wattage from your power supply unit). and add one gig ram at least. make sure you have airflow for the vid card. this will improve your computer far more than overclocking your cpu by 0.3 ghz
[10:00] <crackerjackz> yah but ive ran other distros of linux with 256 and 512 mb ram. what can i do to tweak ubuntu?
[10:00] <llutz> Frostbyte: shouldn't matter, it just makes reading logs more difficult because all things are named equal
[10:00] <pbt> !topic
[10:00] <pbt> !vim
[10:00] <Frostbyte> llutz : this is the first tutorial I googled http://geeksandtweaks.com/wp/how-to-create-a-vpn-server-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[10:00] <llutz> Frostbyte: why client cert? how do you authenticate when not using certs?
[10:01] <ejo> Zambz: for that purpose just VirtualBox
[10:01] <Frostbyte> llutz : dunno, I'm a newb pretty much xD
[10:01] <vbgunz> holy cow, for the first time in years, I am about to blow out data
[10:01] <crimsonmane> crackerjackz: depends on the ubuntu. the latest is obvious more graphic intensive.
[10:01] <crackerjackz> i know theres gotta be something i can do to speed things up though maybe some running services or something making things slow
[10:01] <llutz> Frostbyte: i hate white on black sites :(  but seems basically ok
[10:02] <Frostbyte> llutz : I'm trying to give it a re-go
[10:02] <llutz> Frostbyte: you can place all those certs wherever you want, but you have to use the correct pathes in your openvpn-server.conf
[10:02] <Frostbyte> llutz : yeap, figured
[10:03] <Frostbyte> llutz : but the server conf only has entries for ca.crt server.crt and server.key and that dh thingy
[10:03] <Frostbyte> llutz : do I need the client cert at all?
[10:03] <llutz> Frostbyte: for the client, yes
[10:03] <llutz> Frostbyte: thats not in server.conf
[10:04] <Frostbyte> llutz : I won't be planning on using a client on that box, am I good to go?
[10:04] <Frostbyte> llutz : I only want to make a mesh vpn
[10:04] <iceroot> what is the common way to have an encrpyted folder (not partition) which can only be opened (gui and cli) when using a passphrase
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> crackerjackz  picked this up in this channel http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401609/
[10:05] <llutz> Frostbyte: mesh-vpn?
[10:05] <iceroot> and, is there a way to encrpyted a partition which is already in use (without formating)
[10:05] <Frostbyte> llutz : much like how hamachi behaves
[10:06] <Frostbyte> llutz : I believe openvpn can do that
[10:07] <Frostbyte> llutz : I've got a tun0 \o/
[10:07] <llutz> Frostbyte: sorry i don't know what hamachi is/does, i only use openvpn as gateways for some clients. but i'd guess, whatever you want to connect to your openvpn still needs a cert to authenticate. but you might ask in #openvpn the more versed people about this
[10:07] <vbgunz> holy crap, btrfs-restore might just be the answer, it looks like it's creating the tree from sda1
[10:08] <Frostbyte> llutz : it's a mesh network that uses tunneling - it's just that they do the authentication and have their certs
[10:08] <vbgunz> I swear I get my stuff back, I will not mess with btrfs until it's automatic
[10:08] <Frostbyte> llutz : but because most of the times I go through their relay, I wanted to host my own server
[10:08] <Frostbyte> llutz : I'm gonna figure this soon, thanx for helping.. progressed a step now ;)
[10:08] <llutz> Frostbyte: good luck then
[10:11] <ubu> bouce...
[10:12] <andriy> hello
[10:13] <buar> hi, who can help me with canon1800 printer driver? i use xubuntu only one day and donn't know how install driver. i follow instruction on this page http://tantos.web.id/blogs/how-to-karmic-koala-and-canon-pixma-ip1800-ip1900 and cann't use printer
[10:18] <buar> anybody here?
[10:18] <satwood> buar: yes
[10:18] <satwood> anyone have a ubuntu vm for me to test something really quick please ?!
[10:19] <satwood> will take a day for me to install a new vm. if you can point for download a vm or vbox or allow me to ssh in that would be great
[10:19] <buar> satwood, i cann't, mobile modem
[10:20] <satwood> are the /etc/ conf files same for ubuntu and debian ?
[10:20] <satwood> buar: you can find the ip and give
[10:20] <qdb> hello. i have deleted necessary packages of desktop, and go to console login , but cannot type english letters to write my user name, due to some bug... of ubuntu 12.04 ... i reported that bug several hours ago. what i can fix with livecd ? i tried to write sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data in bashrc and go to recovery root shell, but it don't run
[10:20] <satwood> are the /etc/ conf files same for ubuntu and debian ?
[10:20] <delinquentme> is there a suuuper simple way to figure out what are the local machines on my network?
[10:21] <delinquentme> I've just finished intalling the OS to my new rasberryPi ... and I want to ethernet it up the the LAN  and start poking at it
[10:25] <iceroot> delinquentme: this channel is only for ubuntu support
[10:25] <iceroot> delinquentme: ubuntu is not working on the rasperrypi so please use the channel of your distribution
[10:26] <egorchik007> hello guys
[10:26] <egorchik007> apt-get went crazy
[10:26] <iceroot> !details | egorchik007
[10:26] <egorchik007> i can't install any packet
[10:26] <egorchik007> ubuntu 12.04 LTS server version
[10:27] <egorchik007> sudo apt-get install <anypackethere>
[10:27] <egorchik007> gives:
[10:27] <iceroot> !paste | egorchik007
[10:27] <iceroot> !enter | egorchik007
[10:27] <egorchik007>  libapache2-mod-rpaf : dependance: apache2 или apache2-mpm
[10:27] <egorchik007> but i can't install those packets. i had this issue since i've deleted (purged) apache2 packet
[10:28] <iceroot> egorchik007: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii"
[10:28] <iceroot> delinquentme: if you are not using samba/winbind/wins you have to ping the while network-range to see all devices
[10:29] <egorchik007> iceroot: one second. i tried to fix the problem using taksel install lamp, and it deleted openssh, and now i can't connect to the server
[10:29] <egorchik007> iceroot: i can connect to it physically. but sources are unmodified from default ones
[10:30] <egorchik007> also: libapache2-mod-rpaf - E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:31] <egorchik007> so, idk what to do now. it says there is unsatisfied dependance (see up), but i can't install the dependabce and i can't remove that packet
[10:32] <iceroot> egorchik007: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii"
[10:32] <iceroot> !info libapache2-mod-rpaf precise
[10:33] <iceroot> egorchik007: the dpkg -l line would be interesting to see
[10:35] <egorchik007> iceroot: wait, i physically connected to server and now i need to manually type all this output here
[10:36] <egorchik007> iceroot: oh. it's impossible. =(
[10:36] <iceroot> egorchik007: what does an "apt-get install -f" is doing on the server? maybe that is fixing it already
[10:38] <egorchik007> iceroot: the problem is that my OS is russian, so all the errors are in russian. and ubuntu server outputs russian symbols oncorrectly. but installing with -f flag does EXACTLY the same thing.
[10:39] <egorchik007> iceroot: i am trying now to install -f openssh-server, but i get error about libapache2-mod-rpaf that it has missing dependance : apache2 OR apache2-mpm
[10:39] <iceroot> egorchik007: apt-cache policy apache2
[10:40] <iceroot> !info apache2 precise
[10:40] <iceroot> egorchik007: does it list 2.2.22-1ubuntu1 in the first entry from the main repo?
[10:40] <delinquentme> I've got a raspberry pi which is directly connected to my laptop ( ethernet ) ... how can I ping it or interact with it?
[10:40] <iceroot> delinquentme: ping ip
[10:40] <egorchik007> iceroot: 2.2.22-1ubuntu1.2
[10:41] <egorchik007> iceroot: ther first entry is:
[10:41] <iceroot> egorchik007: which repo?
[10:41] <egorchik007> iceroot: 2.2.22-1ubuntu1.2 0, it's main
[10:41] <delinquentme> iceroot, im not sure what the IP of the pi is when its directly connected to me
[10:41] <delinquentme> unless... ifconfig?
[10:41] <iceroot> delinquentme: the ip you set
[10:41] <iceroot> egorchik007: dpkg -l apache2
[10:42] <iceroot> egorchik007: what are the first 2 characters? ii?
[10:42] <delinquentme> iceroot, well if ive got a direct ethernet connection... shouldn't the connection on my laptops eth0 give me exactly the connection port I want to ping?
[10:42] <iceroot> delinquentme: no
[10:43] <iceroot> delinquentme: you have to setup the network-configuration  ip and subnetmask
[10:43] <egorchik007> iceroot: the firts characters are [] (incorrect russian symblos). after [10:43] <egorchik007> iceroot: so, i guess, 'un'
[10:43] <egorchik007> iceroot: if there any way to switch it to english, it would be greate
[10:43] <egorchik007> great*
[10:44] <iceroot> egorchik007: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
[10:44] <Walex> egorchik007: export LANG=C
[10:44] <jayakarthi> hello everyone
[10:45] <Walex> iceroot: 'en_GB' might not be available...
[10:45] <iceroot> Walex: ah yes
[10:45] <iceroot> Walex: thx
[10:45] <egorchik007> iceroot: ok, done, now the firts line:
[10:45] <egorchik007> iceroot: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[10:46] <iceroot> egorchik007: the next line :)
[10:46] <egorchik007> iceroot: | Status=Not/Inst..... and ...
[10:46] <iceroot> egorchik007: just the first two characters are interesting, ii, un
[10:46] <egorchik007> iceroot: i guess you need this line:
[10:46] <iceroot> ii  apache2          2.2.22-1ubuntu1. Apache HTTP Server metapackage
[10:46] <iceroot> the first to characters
[10:46] <egorchik007> iceroot: un apache2 <none> (no description availible)
[10:47] <egorchik007> iceroot: that's the only entry :(
[10:47] <jayakarthi> hi seemz
[10:47] <jayakarthi> welcome to ubuntu
[10:47] <seemz> hello jay
[10:47] <egorchik007> iceroot: so. it's "un", not "ii"
[10:48] <seemz> lets crate a channel
[10:48] <Frostbyte> llutz : I made it! \o/
[10:49] <iceroot> egorchik007: means "unknown state/not installed"
[10:49] <vlad__> Hello. I have a weird problem with my internet connection. If someone can help me.
[10:49] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:49] <egorchik007> iceroot: sorry me for buggin you, but russian channel is quite dead - they're discussung what's better, vim or nano.
[10:49] <iceroot> egorchik007: vim
[10:49] <iceroot> egorchik007: .)
[10:49] <egorchik007> iceroot: :p done that command, no output.
[10:49] <vlad__> I have a wireless router and i use WPA auth .
[10:50] <vlad__> I have dual boot with Ubuntu 12.04 and Windows 8
[10:50] <vlad__> on windows 8 everything works fine.
[10:50] <vlad__> On ubuntu I manage to connect
[10:50] <vlad__> but ping to gateway and to 8.8.8.8 do not work.
[10:50] <vlad__> I get no response
[10:51] <vlad__> Furthermore, I have access to a public wireless network ( the one I am now ), and here I do not have connectivity problems.
[10:51] <egorchik007> iceroot: well, i tried to -f remove libapache2-mod-rpaf. look at this:
[10:51] <iceroot> egorchik007: and sudo apt-get install apache2 is bringing what exact error?
[10:51] <vlad__> Does anyone know where the problem could be ?
[10:51] <egorchik007> iceroot: dpkg: error proccessing libapache2-mod-rpaf.prerm ............ a2dismod : not found
[10:52] <egorchik007> iceroot: now trying to sudo apt-get install apache2
[10:52] <iceroot> egorchik007: so its an error from the postscript
[10:52] <iceroot> äh pre-remove-script
[10:52] <egorchik007> iceroot: installing apache2:
[10:52] <dr_willis> vlad__: so a unprotected wifi connection works  but one with wpa or other security does  not?
[10:53] <iceroot> egorchik007: apt-cache policy libapache2-mod-rpaf
[10:53] <iceroot> egorchik007: which repo?
[10:53] <egorchik007> iceroot: unmet dependencies: apache2-mpm-worket and etc. (-prefork, -event, -itk)
[10:53] <egorchik007> iceroot: sec
[10:53] <solar_sea> Hi. How do I run usb-creator on another linux system ? I have no cdrom and no windows system available. I'd like to install a live version of lubuntu to an sd card and use the rest of the available space for document storage.
[10:53] <iceroot> egorchik007: should be look like this      0.6-2 0
[10:53] <iceroot>         500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/universe i386 Packages
[10:53] <egorchik007> iceroot: 0.6-2 0, ukrainian host, yeap
[10:54] <vlad__> dr_willis: Yes. The one with wpa security also shows me as connected it assigns me an IP, mask and default gateway, but it does not respond to pings.
[10:54] <Walex> vlad__: our psychic advisors are all busy on other astral planes :-)
[10:54] <egorchik007> iceroot: and ther is one extra line
[10:54] <iceroot> egorchik007: ls -l /usr/sbin/a2dismod
[10:54] <egorchik007> iceroot: 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[10:55] <iceroot> egorchik007: does the a2dismod file exist?
[10:55] <iceroot> egorchik007: apache2.2-common: /usr/sbin/a2dismod
[10:55] <egorchik007> iceroot: no such file/directory
[10:55] <iceroot> egorchik007: dpkg -l apache2.2-common
[10:55] <crackerjackz> how do i tell if im using alsa or pulse audio.. maybe the problem with my sound isn't the driver
[10:55] <iceroot> egorchik007: ii?
[10:55] <egorchik007> iceroot: rc
[10:56] <Walex> crackerjackz: you may be using both, as the typical config is to have an ALSA plugin which diverts to PulseAudio, which then uses ALSA
[10:56] <Zambz> ejo: thanks for your reply :)
[10:56] <crackerjackz> ID: 00:1b.0 is the device i'm trying to get working
[10:56] <egorchik007> iceroot: there is also no /etc/apache2, however, i back-uped the sites' configs
[10:56] <iceroot> egorchik007: ok, so you removed apache2.2-common which is provinding the file /usr/sbin/a2dismod. that file is needed from libapache2-mod-rp for the remove-part, because the file does not exist the removing is failing and dpkg has a state where packages are not configured correctly
[10:56] <crackerjackz> Walex: well how do i figure out whats going on with my sound? how do i determin if its the driver or if its some config issue or something?
[10:57] <egorchik007> iceroot: so i want to install apache2.2-common back
[10:57] <Walex> crackerjackz: use 'aplay -D plughw:0' to see if it works at the basic al
[10:57] <crackerjackz> it stopped working after i updated everything
[10:57] <iceroot> egorchik007: but you cant because apt-get/dpkg is first trying to fix the other issue
[10:57] <egorchik007> iceroot: but it can't
[10:58] <egorchik007> iceroot: well, i know that i'm an idiot. that's true. so what should i do?
[10:58] <Walex> crackerjackz: it is quite difficult to figure out ALSA and PulseAudio for most people, if it doesn't "just work" then it is quite challenging.
[10:59] <Walex> egorchik007: perhaps you could tell <iceroot> what you are trying to achieve, what you want the final state to be.
[10:59] <iceroot> Walex: i know it already
[10:59]  * Walex has missed that
[10:59] <crackerjackz> Walex: i didn't hear anything when i typed that command. when i open my mixer it mentions both alsa and pulse audio.. i think it was originally just using pulse audio.. i installed ubuntu on this computer using an old cd then upraded/updated
[10:59] <crackerjackz> and the sound stopped working
[11:00] <Walex> crackerjackz: you have to type that command with a sound file too
[11:00] <crackerjackz> Walex: ooooh
[11:00] <egorchik007> Walex: first of all, i want to fix that dpkg error, that can't let me install any packets. (openssh-server is the most needed)
[11:00] <vlad__> dr_willis: Any more information I can provide ?
[11:00] <egorchik007> then i want to fix my apache2
[11:00] <iceroot> egorchik007:  i would (dont say its the best method or that it is working) install apache2.2-common by hand with dpkg -i  from here http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/apache2.2-common then remove that failing package because a2dismode exist then
[11:00] <egorchik007> it worked till 0:46, then i got sms that it's down
[11:01] <egorchik007> i tried to reinstall in differtent ways and then i've done some silly things
[11:01] <iceroot> egorchik007: or you could remove the a2dismod line from the prerm script of that package and rerun the remove of that package
[11:01] <egorchik007> iceroot: will try now to wget that packet and install it manually
[11:01] <Walex> or run the remove with a '--force' option IIRC
[11:01] <iceroot> Walex: does it ignore errors from the prerm script?
[11:01] <crackerjackz> Walex: i don't hear anything
[11:02] <Walex> crackerjackz: that could be just because the mixer defaults to zero.
[11:02] <crackerjackz> Walex: the sliders are all the way up tho
[11:02] <Walex> crackerjackz: and what do those sliders control?
[11:03] <crackerjackz> Walex: master and PCM
[11:03] <crackerjackz> HDA Intel (alsa mixer)
[11:03] <Walex> crackerjackz: run and put output in a pastebin of 'aplay -l; aplay -L; amixer'
[11:04] <iceroot> egorchik007: in /var/lib/dpkg/info  there should be a *.prerm file from this failing apache2 package
[11:05] <iceroot> egorchik007: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache2-mod-rp.prerm
[11:05] <iceroot> egorchik007: in that file uncomment all lines with a2enmod and a2dismod
[11:05] <egorchik007> iceroot: i've just downloaded the deb with packet. so what is better to do, install it manually or edit that script?
[11:05] <iceroot> egorchik007: script
[11:06] <egorchik007> iceroot: ther is no such file
[11:06] <iceroot> egorchik007: libapache2-mod-rpaf was the package which is failing?
[11:07] <egorchik007> iceroot: only ....rpaf.prerm
[11:07] <iceroot> egorchik007: yeah thats what i mean :)
[11:07] <egorchik007> iceroot: and there are only a few lines, no commented at all
[11:07] <crackerjackz> walex 06:07 -!- Bladerunn [blade@unaffiliated/bladerunner] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in]
[11:07] <iceroot> egorchik007: mom
[11:07] <crackerjackz> oops
[11:07] <crackerjackz> copy pasta fail
[11:08] <iceroot> egorchik007:     a2dismod -q -f rpaf || true
[11:08] <iceroot> egorchik007: put a # infront of that line
[11:08] <crackerjackz> http://pastebin.com/4CTxF0tY Walex
[11:08] <egorchik007> iceroot: oh, ok
[11:08] <iceroot> egorchik007: save the file
[11:08] <iceroot> egorchik007: and then sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:08] <mati> hi
[11:08] <iceroot> egorchik007: it should now execute the pending remove of libapache2-mod-rpaf
[11:09] <iceroot> egorchik007: if not use "sudo apt-get install -f"
[11:09] <egorchik007> iceroot: same error about dependencies
[11:09] <egorchik007> iceroot: while installing
[11:09] <pbt> !code
[11:09] <egorchik007> iceroot: will now try with -f
[11:09] <egorchik007> iceroot: same shit with -f flag
[11:10] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo apt-get remove libapache2-mod-rpaf
[11:10] <egorchik007> iceroot: failed
[11:11] <egorchik007> iceroot: erorr about restarting apache2 (failed, of course)
[11:11] <iceroot> egorchik007:     invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[11:11] <egorchik007> iceroot: can't open /etc/apache2/envvars
[11:12] <iceroot> egorchik007: comment that line too
[11:12] <iceroot> egorchik007: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache2-mod-rpaf.prerm
[11:13] <iceroot> egorchik007: after that, remove that package again
[11:13] <egorchik007> iceroot: done, tried to remove praf package again:
[11:13] <egorchik007> iceroot: 'fi' unexpected
[11:13] <egorchik007> iceroot: i will now comment the whole if-block
[11:13] <iceroot> egorchik007: yes
[11:14] <vlad__> Walex: I did not understood your earlier reply.
[11:15] <egorchik007> iceroot: well, error is the same
[11:15] <egorchik007> iceroot: that's the script http://pastebin.com/h958Jf7M
[11:15] <iceroot> egorchik007: you forgot to comment the fi :)
[11:16] <a0lex> hey what does eta 16w 2d mean? 16 weeks & 2 days ?? Oo
[11:16] <iceroot> egorchik007: if foobar fi  is the complete syntax for an if block
[11:16] <egorchik007> iceroot: oh, i though it's a part of whole sh script, like return 0;
[11:16] <egorchik007> iceroot: yeaaah, removed that packet, installing ssh
[11:16] <iceroot> egorchik007: total strange script... command || true
[11:17] <iceroot> egorchik007: fine
[11:17] <cjae> !meld
[11:17] <cjae> !info meld
[11:17] <satwood> are the /etc/ conf files same for ubuntu and debian ?
[11:17] <iceroot> egorchik007: if the prerm file still exist, remove it completly
[11:17] <egorchik007> iceroot: installed ssh, unconnecting the monitor and keyboard, 1 sec
[11:17] <egorchik007> iceroot: (ssh works)
[11:18] <iceroot> egorchik007: fine, so everything should be fine again
[11:18] <sudo-apt-get> hello, which software shows disk usage by files on a pie chart?
[11:18] <cjae> does anyone know how good the comparison between files is in meld?
[11:18] <iceroot> sudo-apt-get: maybe there is a gui for "du"
[11:19] <cjae> the option seem quite weak in it
[11:19] <egorchik007> iceroot: so how can i install apache2 correctly? i have no /etc/apache2 dir now ;p
[11:19] <sudo-apt-get> iceroot, I wanna know which folder occupies a lot of space.
[11:19] <iceroot> sudo-apt-get: du -sh /folder/to/start/the/search/
[11:20] <sudo-apt-get> iceroot, ty
[11:20] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:20] <iceroot> egorchik007: always use apt-get and never something else
[11:20] <tuxillo> is there some developers channel for ubuntu?
[11:20] <iceroot> egorchik007: or software-center
[11:21] <iceroot> tuxillo: #ubuntu-dev or #ubuntu-devs
[11:21] <iceroot> !alis | tuxillo
[11:21] <trung`> !code
[11:21] <egorchik007> iceroot: server, no gui, no s-c. i used aptitude a long time ago
[11:21] <tuxillo> ok thanks iceroot.
[11:21] <iceroot> egorchik007: dont use aptitude
[11:21] <iceroot> egorchik007: if you are using amd64 (64bit) aptitude may bring you issues on multiarch
[11:21] <egorchik007> iceroot: i don't use it since 10.04 :)
[11:21] <iceroot> !aptitude
[11:22] <iceroot> egorchik007: fine :)
[11:22] <egorchik007> iceroot: $ sudo apache2ctl start apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: No such file or directory
[11:22] <dsenator> Hi all
[11:22] <egorchik007> iceroot: how can i make him to create a config for me?
[11:22] <iceroot> egorchik007: you installed apache2 with sudo apt-get install apache2?
[11:22] <egorchik007> iceroot: sure
[11:23] <egorchik007> iceroot: /etc/apache2 is on it's place, but no  conf
[11:23] <iceroot> egorchik007: and what should apache2ctl start apache2 be?
[11:23] <dsenator> anyone knows how to get Mono Moonlight working on Ubuntu... I cant
[11:23] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo service apache2 start  to start apache2
[11:23] <egorchik007> iceroot: it should start apache
[11:23] <iceroot> egorchik007: no
[11:23] <iceroot> egorchik007: please only use "sudo service daemonname start"
[11:24] <egorchik007> iceroot: well, that ^ -> /etc/init.d/apache2: 51: .: Can't open /etc/apache2/envvars
[11:24] <egorchik007> iceroot: ok, didn't know about that
[11:24] <iceroot> egorchik007: output of "cat /etc/issue"
[11:24] <LittleRed> hi... i want to upgrade my laptop from 10.4 to 12.04... should I do a fresh install or just do step upgrades?
[11:24] <iceroot> egorchik007: and "dpkg -l apache2"
[11:24] <egorchik007> iceroot: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l, then empty string
[11:25] <egorchik007> iceroot: ii now
[11:25] <iceroot> egorchik007: "which apache2"
[11:25] <iceroot> egorchik007: /usr/sbin/apache2?
[11:25] <egorchik007> yea
[11:25] <iceroot> egorchik007: dpkg -l apache2.2-common
[11:25] <dsenator> anyone knows how to get Mono Moonlight working on Ubuntu... I cant
[11:25] <egorchik007> iceroot: well, there is /etc/apache2 and httpd.conf inside
[11:26] <egorchik007> iceroot: ii also
[11:26] <iceroot> egorchik007: there should be /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[11:26] <iceroot> egorchik007: and /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[11:26] <egorchik007> iceroot: no apache2.conf, httpd.conf is empty. may i download a sample file?
[11:26] <iceroot> egorchik007: no
[11:27] <iceroot> egorchik007: do you have any apache configuration now you still need?
[11:27] <iceroot> egorchik007: or can we completly reinstall apache2?
[11:27] <egorchik007> iceroot: i backuped my sites-enabled, so we can :)
[11:28] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 && dpkg -l apache2.2-common
[11:28] <sudo-apt-get> iceroot, theres a software known as disk usage analyser, exactly what I wanted !!(shows disk usage graphically)
[11:28] <iceroot> sudo-apt-get: thats the gui for "du" :)
[11:28] <egorchik007> iceroot: deleted, common is ii
[11:28] <iceroot> sudo-apt-get: du = disk usage
[11:29] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2.2-common
[11:29] <egorchik007> iceroot: done
[11:29] <vlad__> Hello. I have a weird problem with my internet connection. If someone can help me.
[11:29] <vlad__> I have a wireless router and i use WPA auth .
[11:29] <vlad__> I have dual boot with Ubuntu 12.04 and Windows 8
[11:29] <vlad__> on windows 8 everything works fine.
[11:29] <vlad__> On ubuntu I manage to connect
[11:29] <FloodBot1> vlad__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:29] <iceroot> egorchik007: because you or someelse else killed the config and only removed the metapackage apache2, apache2.2-common was still installed and that package is handling the default conf-files
[11:29] <sudo-apt-get> iceroot, oh, i didnt know that :)
[11:29] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:29] <Xotix> hi
[11:29] <delinquentme> so I've got a mounted SD card at /dev/sda2 .... how can I acccess these files via command line?
[11:29] <vlad__> Ok
[11:30] <iceroot> delinquentme: /dev/sda2 is not mounted
[11:30] <iceroot> delinquentme: that is only the device-name
[11:30] <Xotix> I just installed 12.10 on virtualbox. Is there an easy way to change the cholor scheme?
[11:30] <iceroot> delinquentme: normally it should be automaticly mounted
[11:30] <egorchik007> iceroot: installed. now all configs are on it's place
[11:30] <iceroot> egorchik007: and apache is running?
[11:31] <iceroot> delinquentme: "mount" should show you the path where it is mounted
[11:31] <iceroot> delinquentme: /dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[11:31] <iceroot> delinquentme: something like that
[11:31] <egorchik007> iceroot: yes, however, it gives me .php files as a file. so i need to install mod_php
[11:31] <iceroot> delinquentme: /media/foobar/sonstwas/
[11:31] <egorchik007> iceroot: yes?
[11:31] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo apt-get install php5
[11:32] <iceroot> egorchik007: atfer that "sudo service apache2 restart"
[11:32] <delinquentme> iceroot, bingo /media/567E7C787E7C52AB     $ df -h
[11:32] <delinquentme> PS .. what does df stand for?
[11:32] <iceroot> delinquentme: fine :)
[11:32] <savio> before upgrading to 12.10  should i remove PPA
[11:32] <egorchik007> iceroot: done, it stlls give me php sources
[11:33] <iceroot> delinquentme: display filesystems? dont know
[11:33] <vlad__> I have a connectivity problem . It is described here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401733/
[11:33] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo a2enmod php  or something like that
[11:33] <vlad__> If anyone could help I would be very thankful .
[11:33] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo a2enmod
[11:34] <iceroot> egorchik007: then there is a "menu" which is asking what should be enabled for apache2
[11:34] <savio> delinquentme, df gives infomation about mounted file system
[11:34] <delinquentme> df (abbreviation for disk free)
[11:34] <delinquentme> TIL
[11:34] <egorchik007> iceroot: yep, but nothing for php (ctrl-f'ed it, nothing)
[11:35] <dsenator> anyone knows how to get Mono Moonlight working on Ubuntu... I cant
[11:35] <iceroot> egorchik007: dpkg -l libapache2-mod-php5
[11:35] <satwood> are the /etc/ conf files same for ubuntu and debian ?
[11:35] <Cottus> vlad__: you can check /etc/resolv.conf, about ping, maybe the router does not allow it
[11:35] <iceroot> satwood: no
[11:35] <egorchik007> iceroot: installed
[11:35] <satwood> are the /etc/ conf files same for ubuntu and debian ? (please put my name when you reply)
[11:35] <satwood> iceroot: how are they different ?
[11:35] <egorchik007> iceroot: o_O why it's not working
[11:35] <iceroot> satwood: ubuntu is using upstart, debian not, ubuntu is using different software versions then debian
[11:36] <iceroot> satwood: dont mix them!!
[11:36] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo a2enmod php5
[11:36] <tuxillo> later
[11:36] <tuxillo> iceroot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[11:36] <tuxillo> :)
[11:36] <egorchik007> iceroot: no modules for php at all. ERROR: Module php5 does not exist!
[11:36] <iceroot> egorchik007: dpkg -l php5
[11:37] <egorchik007> iceroot: installed. i can now try to reinstall i
[11:37] <egorchik007> it*
[11:37] <iceroot> egorchik007: ls -l /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[11:37] <iceroot> egorchik007: php -v
[11:38] <egorchik007> iceroot: file exists, PHP 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.4
[11:39] <iceroot> egorchik007: ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-available/php
[11:39] <iceroot> egorchik007: ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-available/php*
[11:39] <savio> anybody here who upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10
[11:39] <iceroot> !anyone | savio
[11:39] <jrib> savio: what is your question?
[11:39] <savio> is it worth it
[11:39] <iceroot> satwood: never touch a running system
[11:39] <jrib> savio: try a live cd, or install it virtualized and see if it's worth it for you.
[11:40] <egorchik007> iceroot: no such module
[11:40] <satwood> iceroot: its not a running system, how do the conf files differ ?
[11:40] <egorchik007> iceroot: only proxy* module on P letter at all
[11:40] <satwood> other than versions ?
[11:40] <iceroot> satwood: i said already what the diff is
[11:40] <iceroot> satwood: if you want details use "diff"
[11:40] <LittleRed> ok... looking at docs show I need to do a fresh install... but now the question is 11.10 or 12.04? any opinions on either?
[11:41] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo apt-get remove --purge libapache2-mod-php5 && sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[11:41] <iceroot> egorchik007: that package is providing the conf-files
[11:41] <iceroot> egorchik007: can it be that you deleted the apache directory on /etc/apache2/ by hand?
[11:41] <satwood> iceroot: "ubuntu is using different software versions then debian" is this is the only differnece ?
[11:41] <iceroot> LittleRed: 12.04
[11:41] <dsenator> anyone knows how to get Mono Moonlight working on Ubuntu... I cant
[11:41] <jrib> LittleRed: definitely 12.04 or 12.10.  12.04 is the latest LTS release.  12.10 is the latest release.  I wouldn't recommend an 11.10 at this point
[11:42] <dsenator> anyone knows how to get Mono Moonlight working on Ubuntu... I cant
[11:42] <dsenator> anyone knows how to get Mono Moonlight working on Ubuntu... I cant
[11:42] <iceroot> satwood: i also said that ubuntu is using upstart, debian not
[11:42] <iceroot> !work | dsenator
[11:42] <egorchik007> iceroot: i've deleted it by hand, yes
[11:42] <satwood> ok looking up upstrat
[11:42] <jrib> dsenator: you go to the moonlight page and click on install
[11:42] <iceroot> egorchik007: never ever do that again!!!!
 why not 11.04?
[11:42] <egorchik007> iceroot: ok ;p
[11:42] <egorchik007> iceroot: well, now ther is another proble
[11:42] <egorchik007> iceroot: it runs SLOWLY. AMAZINGLY SLOW
[11:43] <iceroot> egorchik007: the packages are providing conffiles and dpkg knows the package is installed, when you delete the files by hand, dpkg still things that the files are there
[11:43] <dsenator> jrib, reason I am here is cos I tried all possibilties
[11:43] <jrib> LittleRed: because these are old.  11.04 is no longer supported.  11.10 will end support in april of next year.
[11:43] <dsenator> it wont work at all in crhome
[11:43] <jrib> dsenator: all possibilities?  So describe exactly what happened when you tried the possibility I suggested
[11:43] <dsenator> in firefox it say installed but nothing still
[11:43] <egorchik007> iceroot: well, it doesn't wok at all, loading forever
[11:43] <iceroot> egorchik007: what exactly?
[11:43] <savio> jrib, 12.10 makes many changes it uses python 3.2 and many more does it improve performance/usability on your opinion I can't download livecd because my internet connection sucks
[11:43] <egorchik007> iceroot: pm'ed you adress
[11:44] <iceroot> egorchik007: i will never click on russia adrresses :)
[11:44] <iceroot> egorchik007: always porn and spam and trojans and so on :)
[11:44] <jrib> savio: I use both 12.04 and 12.10 depending on whether I want to upgrade the system every 6 months or every 2 years.  They're both very usable.
[11:44] <iceroot> egorchik007: and lets use this chat
[11:44] <egorchik007> iceroot: pm'ed you my ISP domain
[11:44] <egorchik007> iceroot: ok, dojulia.soborka.net
[11:45] <LittleRed> jrib: makes sense... just did the desktop to 12.04, and don't want to leave the laptop in the dust. I'll need to reload some of the drivers, right? I just trying to get the scope of work figured out so I know how much time I'll need
[11:45] <vlad__> I have a connectivity problem . It is described here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401733/
[11:45] <jrib> dsenator: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/download.aspx you went here in firefox and installed the xpi?  Does it show up in your extension list?  How are you testing moonlight?
[11:45] <egorchik007> it has DLE installed, but it doesn't work now (loading....)
[11:45] <iceroot> egorchik007: just reinstall/reconfigure the packages which are providing files to /etc/apache2/
[11:45] <jrib> LittleRed: ideally, you wouldn't have to reload any drivers...
[11:45] <iceroot> egorchik007: like libmod-apache-php and so on
[11:46] <dsenator> jrib, I am trying a website done with MS Expression and it tell me i need Silverlight to view (just like flash) and Moonlight is the alternative in Ubuntu
[11:46] <LittleRed> jrib: had to load the video driver last time, but it's all good, it's an Nvidia
[11:47] <quatar> Hi guys,,, it's my first time installing ubuntu in dual boot on UEFI. I'm going to boot from a 12.04 64bit flash drive and install with the automatic "alongside" installation. Is there somehing I've got to know before absolutely?
[11:47] <WaqarAzeem> Hi eveyone, Last night i was gtting a trouble to configure the RealVNC on Ubuntu. It was my first experience with RealVNC ... My simple question is ... I have created a multiple user on Ubuntu and on each user session i run RealVNC by using su.  Port forwrarding at 5900 on my router. Now only one user that have Administrative priveliges can access its remotedesktop. No one else can access the
[11:47] <WaqarAzeem> seesion.
[11:47] <egorchik007> iceroot: purged and reinstalled php5 mod, same thing
[11:48] <OerHeks> dsenator, moonlight isn't developed anymore, i ( in holland) cannot see some tv stations also, bad luck
[11:48] <jrib> dsenator: moonlight won't run everything silverlight can.  You'll have to read the details on their site, but for example, netflix doesn't work.  See if they have some sort of simple test to see if moonlight is installed correctly
[11:48] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo apt-get remove --purge libapache2-mod-php5 && sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[11:48] <iceroot> egorchik007: --purge is the important flag in this case
[11:48] <mithran> i cant find the external Hard Disk in my ubuntu 12.04
[11:48] <quatar> in general... anybody here already troubleshooted with UEFI? In particular, I'm working on a lenovo laptop
[11:48] <dsenator> jrib, I wasnt trying to watch movies tho, its just s website built with microsoft Expression
[11:49] <OerHeks> dsenator, even with this answer from askubuntu to rename the .xpi to .zip it doen't work here. > http://askubuntu.com/questions/80293/moonlight-extension-not-working-with-new-firefox-versions
[11:49] <egorchik007> iceroot: oh, nevermind
[11:50] <egorchik007> iceroot: it was mysql connection error
[11:50] <egorchik007> fuck :/
[11:50] <mithran> My External hard disk is not detectected in ubuntu it is already been used in the apple laptop
[11:50] <egorchik007> iceroot: seems that tasksel remove my mysql
[11:50] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[11:51] <egorchik007> iceroot: it is installed (dpkg says it's ii)
[11:51] <egorchik007> iceroot: however, could taksel wiped mysql configs?
[11:51] <dsenator> OerHeks, I see... I simply went on the moonlight site and downloaded and directly to plugin
[11:51] <iceroot> egorchik007: i never used tasksel
[11:51] <egorchik007> iceroot: basicly, how can i reconfigure mysql passes?
[11:52] <iceroot> egorchik007: dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
[11:52] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
[11:52] <LittleRed> jrib: thanks for the input... off to create a disk and get it done
[11:52] <jrib> dsenator: well did it get installed or not...? Do you see it in your extensions list?
[11:52] <egorchik007> iceroot: empty output
[11:53] <iceroot> egorchik007: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server && sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[11:53] <mithran> please help me  My External hard disk is not detectected in ubuntu it is already been used in the apple laptop
[11:53] <iceroot> egorchik007: it will create a new user-db
[11:53] <jrib> egorchik007: your site loaded fine over here by the way...
[11:53] <iceroot> egorchik007: you have a backup of the databases?
[11:54] <egorchik007> iceroot: no backup :(
[11:54] <egorchik007> jrib: after a few minutes of loading or instantly?
[11:54] <iceroot> egorchik007: so mysql is running but you dont know the root-pw for it?
[11:54] <jrib> egorchik007: it took a few seconds, not minutes
[11:55] <egorchik007> iceroot: it runs, but my sites after a minute of loading says it's mysql error.
[11:55] <jrib> egorchik007: ~12 seconds
[11:55] <egorchik007> jrib: thanks
[11:55] <iceroot> egorchik007: and what error excactly?
[11:55] <egorchik007> iceroot: cannot connect to mysql. all. possibly, it has no mysql module for php installed?
[11:55] <egorchik007> iceroot: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'exsserver.ru' (110)
[11:56] <dsenator> jrib, its there in extension list
[11:57] <dsenator> going thru the process of asking me to allow plug in and restarting firefow
[11:57] <egorchik007> iceroot: well, the root pass remained the same
[11:57] <jrib> dsenator: then it's installed, see if it works on other sites that use silverlight
[11:57] <et_> hey
[11:57] <Jacruth> Ey guys, is there any way do automatic updates?
[11:57] <egorchik007> iceroot: i logged in via phpmyadmin
[11:57] <dsenator> it doesnt
[11:57] <dsenator> jrib, it doesnt
[11:57] <iceroot> egorchik007: then your apache/php config for mysql seems to be deleted too
[11:57] <egorchik007> iceroot: so i can make a back if needed
[11:57] <iceroot> egorchik007: did i say never delete files by hand again?
[11:57] <dsenator> jrib, sent the site to you, dunno if you saw it
[11:57] <mithran> please help me  My External hard disk is not detectected in ubuntu it is already been used in the apple laptop anybody please help me
[11:58] <egorchik007> iceroot: i haven't delted anything except /etc/apache2
[11:58] <iceroot> egorchik007: you can connect to mysql using phpmyadmin?
[11:58] <egorchik007> iceroot: yes
[11:58] <jrib> dsenator: so what happens at this site: http://www.aquosgames.com/spectrum/spectrumfull.html
[11:58] <egorchik007> iceroot: but with root
[11:58] <iceroot> egorchik007: then apache/php are able to talk to mysql
[11:58] <egorchik007> iceroot: i will now take my site using root user, too
[11:58] <mah454> Hello
[11:58] <iceroot> egorchik007: no!!!
[11:59] <iceroot> egorchik007: dont do that
[11:59] <iceroot> egorchik007: not on a production system
[11:59] <et_> im sorry i tried a few solutions from the net but right now using an nvidia 9500 card with ubuntu 12.10 is lame
[11:59] <iceroot> egorchik007: mysql-injecgtion at its best
[11:59] <egorchik007> iceroot: i know, but it seems that it deleted the site's user
[11:59] <delinquentme_> I should be able to ssh into my own system with " ssh 127.0.0.1 "  .. no?
[11:59] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[11:59] <iceroot> egorchik007: just debug your webapplication why it cant connect to mysql
[11:59] <mah454> In ubuntu server : freeradius can not load  "SQL" Module ! receive this message : "/etc/freeradius/sites-enabled/default[159]: Failed to load module "sql"."
[11:59] <egorchik007> iceroot: i need to try if the problem is on DLE or somewhere else
[11:59] <iceroot> delinquentme_: yes
[11:59] <jrib> delinquentme_: sure
[11:59] <mah454> This package installed : freeradius-mysql
[12:00] <iceroot> delinquentme_: when openssh-server is installed
[12:00] <mah454> How can fix this problem ?
[12:00] <et_> mah454
[12:00] <et_> mah454 install it
[12:00] <et_> first
[12:00] <et_> lol
[12:00] <mah454> et_: package freeradius-mysql alrady installed
[12:00] <et_> then enter mysql
[12:01] <et_> gogoc
[12:01] <mah454> et_: ! sorry ?
[12:01] <marcappuccino> Anyone know if it is possible to compress .flac files to .tgz or .tar.xz etc?
[12:01] <et_> ohh my bad
[12:01] <dsenator> jrib, its asking me if i wanted to install the required add-on...
[12:01] <mah454> et_: enter mysql ?
[12:01] <jrib> dsenator: it asks about codecs, probably
[12:01] <et_> try that in term
[12:01] <iceroot> marcappuccino: of course it is possible
[12:01] <et_> right
[12:01] <iceroot> marcappuccino: but useless
[12:01] <dsenator> jrib, yes
[12:01] <dsenator> so i am downloading
[12:02] <marcappuccino> iceroot: Why is it useless?
[12:02] <marcappuccino> gunzip says unknown format
[12:02] <marcappuccino> tar cvf ... has no size advantage...
[12:03] <iceroot> marcappuccino: tar has never a size advantage
[12:03] <marcappuccino> iceroot: so what is the point of tar ;)?
[12:03] <iceroot> marcappuccino: to create a archive
[12:03] <egorchik007> iceroot: a BIG thank you for helping me with fixing my crooked hands
[12:03] <iceroot> marcappuccino: multiple files into one file
[12:04] <sudo-apt-get> Hello, I deleted files from my pendrive but the pendrive shows the same amount of disk space on ubuntu. How can I solve it?
[12:04] <mah454> et_:  I can not understand ! How can fix this problem ? Freeradius + Mysql in Ubuntu server 12.04
[12:04] <iceroot> marcappuccino: togehter with zip (tar.gz) it is one file which is also compressed
[12:04] <iceroot> marcappuccino: also see "man tar"
[12:04] <egorchik007> iceroot: if you haven't helped me so much, i might have reinstalled my os :)
[12:04] <iceroot> sudo-apt-get: you did it on the gui?
[12:04] <iceroot> sudo-apt-get: there it is in the trash of the device
[12:04] <iceroot> egorchik007: you are welcome
[12:05] <sudo-apt-get> I couldnt also remove it from trash.
[12:05] <sudo-apt-get> iceroot, ^
[12:05] <iceroot> !work | sudo-apt-get
[12:05] <marcappuccino> yes, i perform `tar cvf x.tgz` or `tar cvf y.tar.xz --xz` and the size is the same...
[12:05] <savio> sudo-apt-get, format it
[12:05] <marcappuccino> (iceroot)
[12:05] <iceroot> we should bring !work !details and !anyone every 5 minutes here automaticly .)
[12:06] <dsenator> jrib, it now gives an error message 'An error occured when installing the software' Permission Denied is written under that
[12:06] <iceroot> marcappuccino: because you cant compress flac files
[12:06] <jrib> marcappuccino: you need "z" to compress...
[12:06] <iceroot> marcappuccino: flac is uncompressed audio, you can compress (quality loss) it only with mp3 and so on
[12:06] <sudo-apt-get> I tried to shift delete the contents of the trash of pendrive but the pendrive doesnt show extra space.
[12:06] <marcappuccino> iceroot: what is `z`?
[12:06] <mithran> please help me  My External hard disk is not detectected in ubuntu it is already been used in the apple laptop anybody please help me
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> sudo-apt-get  show hidden files, there's a hidden .trash file
[12:07] <jrib> marcappuccino: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?  it's not clear.
[12:07] <jrib> dsenator: on firefox?
[12:07] <mithran> how can i set the permissions for an apple time mechine backups
[12:07] <savio> mithran, does your hard disk connect internally or externally
[12:07] <mithran> externa
[12:08] <mithran> savio:  external
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> sudo-apt-get  show hidden files, there's a hidden .trash-100 file, delete that
[12:08] <savio> mithran, means usb right?
[12:08] <mithran> savio: yes
[12:08] <sudo-apt-get> MonkeyDust, it works now, but why is it hidden? Why dont ubuntu devs make it like windows?
[12:08] <mithran>  an apple time mechine backups
[12:08] <marcappuccino> iceroot: sorry, basically, I have been given a set of audio files in the .flac format, which amount to 1.6 GiB. I would like to compress them into a compression archive such as .tgz, which would contain the .flacs...
[12:08] <savio> mithran, use lsusb and paste the output
[12:09] <mithran> savio: thats the name showa in media
[12:09] <jrib> marcappuccino: tar czvf
[12:09] <mithran> savio: what
[12:09] <mithran> sudo lsusb
[12:10] <savio> mithran, user terminal and enter lsusb command
[12:11] <Eagleman7> Where do i find the default config file for rsnapshot ( not in /etc/rsnapshot )?
[12:11] <dsenator> jrib, yes in firefox
[12:11] <sudo-apt-get> Where do the deleted files of ubuntu go? .trash like in pendrive?
[12:11] <mithran> savio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401799/
[12:11] <jrib> dsenator: what happens here: http://mosaicwonder.com/gallery/DeepZoom.aspx?idx=4
[12:11] <jrib> !trash | sudo-apt-get
[12:12] <sudo-apt-get> ty jrib
[12:12] <savio> mithran, is it toshiba hard drive
[12:12] <marcappuccino> jrib: I done `tar czvf abc.tar.xz abc`, and file size is the same as the original folder...
[12:12] <sharpshooter> !pixmap | sharpshooter
[12:12] <jrib> sudo-apt-get: I remember a proposal to empty trash on removable devices when the devices were unmounted, but I have no idea if that was implemented
[12:12] <mithran> yes
[12:13] <sudo-apt-get> jrib, Yes thats a very good idea.
[12:13] <mithran>  that was used in apple an apple time mechine backups
[12:13] <jrib> marcappuccino: I suppose that's possible.
[12:13] <mithran> savio: yes
[12:13] <mithran>  that was used in apple an apple time mechine backups
[12:14] <savio> mithran, disconnect it and connect it again then use "dmesg | tail " in terminal and paste output
[12:14] <sudo-apt-get> jrib, why doesnt ubuntu have an option of shift-delete?
[12:14] <iceroot> marcappuccino: flac is uncompressed audio, you can compress (quality loss) it only with mp3 and so on
[12:14] <iceroot> marcappuccino: as i said already
[12:14] <mithran> savio: ok
[12:15] <marcappuccino> iceroot: yes, but is there no way to compress to an archive and reduce file size? Forgive me for my naivity
[12:15] <mithran> savio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401810/
[12:15] <jrib> sudo-apt-get: are you using nautilus?  I seem to have that option
[12:15] <iceroot> marcappuccino: yes if you convert them to mp3 or something like that
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> marcappuccino  FLAC is sort of equivalent of WAV, but FLAC can be flagged, WAV cannot
[12:16] <iceroot> marcappuccino: its useless to compress flac, avi and some others with zip or something like that
[12:16] <marcappuccino> so .tar archives are irrelevant the only way to reduce filesize is to compress to a lossy codec like mp3?
[12:16] <iceroot> marcappuccino: comressing working great on text-based files but not something like flac or avi
[12:16] <marcappuccino> (MonkeyDust iceroot)
[12:17] <iceroot> marcappuccino: yes
[12:17] <marcappuccino> Ah thanks. Can i ask why?
[12:17] <iceroot> marcappuccino: what do you think why mp3 exist? because to compress something like wav/flac
[12:17] <sudo-apt-get> jrib, that thing doent work fro pendrives.
[12:17] <savio> mithran, use df -h command and paste output
[12:17] <jrib> marcappuccino: FLAC is specifically designed for efficient packing of audio data, unlike general purpose lossless algorithms such as DEFLATE which is used in ZIP and gzip. While ZIP may compress a CD-quality audio file by 10–20%, FLAC achieves compression rates of 30–50% for most music.  I imagine this is why...
[12:18] <jrib> sudo-apt-get: what thing?
[12:18] <sudo-apt-get> jrib, nautilus shift-delet
[12:18] <jrib> sudo-apt-get: what happens when youtry?
[12:18] <marcappuccino> I thought mp3 existed to not have to decompress to be able to play the media (iceroot)
[12:18] <sudo-apt-get> goes into .trash
[12:18] <iceroot> marcappuccino: yes thats another reason
[12:18] <Walther> Uh, if there are any devs around, I'd suggest looking into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-experimental-310/+bug/1085044
[12:19] <jrib> marcappuccino: mp3 is lossy, flac is lossless.  Compression isn't the same
[12:19] <iceroot> Walther: #ubuntu-bugs
[12:19] <Walther> ah, nice
[12:19] <jrib> sudo-apt-get: in edit → preferences → behavior, do you have the option enabled to include a "delete" command that bypasses the trash?
[12:19] <savio> Walther, i suggest to post on bug squad channel
[12:19] <marcappuccino> ah ok
[12:19] <Walther> joined, thanks
[12:19] <mithran> savio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401817/
[12:19] <Walther> didn't know that existed
[12:19] <marcappuccino> thanks everyone: jrib, MonkeyDust iceroot
[12:20] <marcappuccino> bye
[12:20] <qdb> http://askubuntu.com/questions/224215/how-to-fix-console-keymap-of-installed-system-from-livecd
[12:20] <savio> mithran, your drive is mounted but only in read-only mode
[12:21] <dsenator> hmmm, jrib something funny is happening, I get the loading percentage thing and i get a black screen when its complete and then a few moments  something shows up, I see an image
[12:21] <sudo-apt-get> jrib, thanks. The option was disabled by default I think.
[12:22] <sudo-apt-get> jrib, It should have been enabled by default.
[12:22] <jrib> sudo-apt-get: have to make it hard for people to destroy their files :)
[12:22] <dsenator> jrib, http://imagebin.org/237793
[12:23] <jrib> dsenator: sure, while it's loading.  Then eventually it works?
[12:23] <sudo-apt-get> jrib, actually, not enabling it makes it hard to delete their files :O
[12:23] <blackshirt> so,what the problems ?
[12:24] <sudo-apt-get> my little brother could not delete files from pendrive because it went directly to .trash and he didnt know what to do because it was hidden.
[12:25] <sudo-apt-get> He formatted the pendrive using windows later.
[12:25] <dsenator> jrib, here is the site I had issues with at www.awafoundation.net and thats the output i get after loading http://imagebin.org/237794
[12:25] <blackshirt> hidden files/dir was like regular files in linux ... Nothing makes their differences
[12:25] <jrib> dsenator: you can right click on the picture for example and see "moonlight settings"? Anyway, seems like it's installed.  If you want, we can check permissions since you shouldn't have gotten that permission error earlier.  What does « find ~/.mozilla ! -user $USER » return?
[12:26] <jrib> dsenator: same behavior here on your awa site.  It's likely something that just isn't compatible with moonlight
[12:26] <iIlL10Oo> how to move a windows to desktop3 in shell cmd or c++ api ?
[12:26] <sudo-apt-get> blackshirt, hidden files are disabled by default.
[12:26] <jrib> iIlL10Oo: maybe wmctrl
[12:27] <blackshirt> what you mean with disabled by default ?
[12:27] <sudo-apt-get> sorry, hidden.
[12:27] <delinquentme_> so I just reformatted a SD card using the GUI disk utility .. and its able to be opened with Nautilus... HOWEVER ... fdisk is showing it as fat32 ... why?
[12:27] <iIlL10Oo> jrib: thank you
[12:28] <Guest37589> oi
[12:28] <dsenator> hmm I see
[12:28] <Guest37589> to com vc
[12:28] <TakeItEZ> delinquentme_: fdisk shows partition-ids not filesystem
[12:29] <blackshirt> nothing special with hidden files or folder in linux ...
[12:29] <Guest37589> cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[12:29] <Guest37589> boi
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> Guest37589  it works, you're in
[12:29] <dsenator> jrib, /home/dsenator/.mozilla/plugins
[12:29] <blackshirt> !flood
[12:29] <dsenator> /home/dsenator/.mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so
[12:30] <delinquentme_> TakeItEZ, $ sudo fdisk -l   ... shows a fat32
[12:30] <jrib> delinquentme_: ls -ld /home/dsenator/.mozilla/plugins
[12:30] <TakeItEZ> delinquentme_: yes,fdisk shows partition-ids not filesystems. use "sudo blkid"
[12:31] <shallwe> hi guys, can i use fsck for scan ntfs partitions?
[12:31] <dsenator> jrib, the ls  -ld gave me drwxr-xr-x 126 dsenator dsenator 20480 Dec  1 09:56
[12:31] <shallwe> im fear in damage something
[12:31] <jrib> dsenator: as what user did you run the find command?
[12:31] <TakeItEZ> delinquentme_: even if a partition-id is "0x0b fat32" it says nothing about the filesystem really contained.
[12:31] <blackshirt> shallwe, there are ntfsfix for them ... But, commonly, fsck.ntfs was linked to them
[12:31] <dsenator> ermmm not sudo
[12:31] <dsenator> let me try sudo now
[12:32] <jrib> dsenator: no.
[12:32] <dsenator> ok
[12:32] <delinquentme_> TakeItEZ, noted!
[12:32] <dsenator> anyway, it gave same thing
[12:32] <shallwe> blackshirt, thx man, i will try
[12:32] <jrib> dsenator: what command did you run? Actually, just pastebin what you see in your terminal: the input and output.
[12:32] <Eagleman7> This will run every month ( 11-12-01-02 )  on monday at 2:30 midnight?
[12:32] <Eagleman7> 30               2               *                      */1                     mon                     /usr/local/bin/rsnapshot monthly
[12:33] <blackshirt> shallwe, but maybe better you chkdsk through your windows
[12:33] <dsenator> how do you do pastebin
[12:33] <Eagleman7> !pastebin
[12:33] <jrib> Eagleman7: every monday, no?
[12:33] <Eagleman7> ow sorru, the first monday of a month?
[12:34] <jrib> Eagleman7: every monday, no?
[12:34] <Eagleman7> 30               2               1                      */1                     *                       /usr/local/bin/rsnapshot monthly
[12:34] <Eagleman7> every month at the first day of the month at 2:30 midnight
[12:35] <jrib> Eagleman7: sure, that runs on the first of every month, but "*/1" is the same as "*"
[12:35] <mithran> savio: how can i change it
[12:35] <Eagleman7> ok
[12:35] <quatar> Oh please I need help!!! I installed ubuntu in dal boot on a UEFI-equipped lenovo laptop, i followed the instructions from the ubuntu online documentation etc.... now ubuntu works fine but Win8 won't load anymore!!!! It's there, but it won't load
[12:35] <dsenator> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401844/
[12:35] <Eagleman7> What wont load, any errors?
[12:35] <savio> mithran, have you familiar with mount command
[12:35] <TakeItEZ> Eagleman7: if you want "the first monday of a month" you need to check that inside your script running. cron can't do
[12:36] <mithran> savio: how
[12:36] <jrib> dsenator: ls -ld /home/dsenator/.mozilla/plugins
[12:36] <Eagleman7> Take its not defined in the script
[12:36] <Eagleman7> 30               2               1                      *                       *                       /usr/local/bin/rsnapshot monthly
[12:36] <savio> !mount | mithran
[12:36] <Eagleman7> should work
[12:36] <jrib> Eagleman7: sure
[12:37] <dsenator> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401848/
[12:37] <jrib> dsenator: sudo chown -R $USER: ~/.mozilla/plugins                 (don't make typos)
[12:38] <Eagleman7> How will this do? there is 30 minutes between each backup to prevent errors:  http://pastebin.com/FkWz43HA
[12:38] <jrib> dsenator: this likely happened because you ran firefox with sudo (which you should not do) by the way
[12:38] <mithran> savio:
[12:38] <savio> mithran, ?
[12:39] <jrib> Eagleman7: seems fine
[12:39] <Eagleman7> Ok i set it live lets see what happens :)
[12:39] <Eagleman7> Thanks
[12:39] <mithran> i won't get it
[12:39] <jrib> Eagleman7: rsnapshot is in the repositories by the way...
[12:39] <mithran> is it used in terminal
[12:40] <Eagleman7> i used apt-get
[12:40] <jrib> Eagleman7: but you're calling /usr/local/bin
[12:40] <Eagleman7> i rather link to the command
[12:40] <jrib> Eagleman7: apt-get won't install to /usr/local/bin
[12:40] <dsenator> jrib, here is the firefox plug in page http://imagebin.org/237796
[12:40] <Eagleman7> ow
[12:40] <jrib> dsenator: that's fine. Do you have any questions?
[12:40] <mithran> savio: is it used in terminal
[12:40] <Eagleman7> *                       rsnapshot hourly
[12:41] <mithran> savio:  i won't get it
[12:41] <jrib> Eagleman7: yeah
[12:41] <Eagleman7> not sure if that works in a cronjob
[12:41] <jrib> Eagleman7: it should (works here), but you can give full path if you want to be safe
[12:41] <Eagleman7> i dont have to set any path to a command in crontab?
[12:41] <dsenator> jrib, I am still on same issue, nothing has chalnged really
[12:41] <dsenator> changed
[12:41] <savio> mithran, yes mount is command used to mount file system
[12:41] <jrib> dsenator: as I said, that site likely doesn't work with moonlight
[12:41] <blackshirt> Dir /usr/local/bin was used for local administrator
[12:42] <Eagleman7> any idea where i can find the command rsnapshot?
[12:42] <savio> mithran, wait
[12:42] <TakeItEZ> Eagleman7: "which rsnapshot"
[12:42] <mithran> savio: just type ' !mount '
[12:42] <jrib> dsenator: you can reinstall it if you want in case your permissions issue caused something to not be fully installed (for example those codecs from before).  But it likely won't make a difference based on the behavior I see here
[12:42] <TakeItEZ> Eagleman7: or "whereis rsanpshot"
[12:42] <Eagleman7> ./usr/bin/rsnapshot
[12:42] <Eagleman7> thanks
[12:42] <TakeItEZ> rsnapshot even
[12:42] <savio> mithran, mount
[12:43] <mithran> savio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401863/
[12:44] <dsenator> jrib, so no solution you say
[12:44] <r_ironfist> hi, guys.
[12:45] <r_ironfist> is there any way to tile windows in ubuntu's unity?
[12:45] <dsenator> jrib, the site works with silverlight nicely... such a shame
[12:45] <mithran> savio:
[12:45] <savio> mithran, wait
[12:45] <jrib> dsenator: you can see if you can install silverlight in a wine version of firefox (check appdb.winehq.org), or use a virtualized windows install.
[12:46] <mithran> savio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401863/
[12:46] <Eagleman7> rsnapshot is a wrapper around rsync right?
[12:46] <mithran> savio:  ok ok
[12:46] <jrib> Eagleman7: it uses rsync
[12:46] <TakeItEZ> Eagleman7: yes
[12:47] <Eagleman7> same like easy-rsa with openvpn
[12:47] <Eagleman7> it used openssl
[12:47] <Eagleman7> uses
[12:48] <Ny0> hi everyone, is there anyone who can help me setting up Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications on lenovo g580 and ubuntu 12.04
[12:48] <angs> I am using ubuntu 12.04. the name of my wireless interface changes frequently, e.g. it sometimes wlan0, sometimes wlan3, ... how can I fix it?
[12:49] <dsenator> jrib, yes it works in my virtual box but I have an openGL issue in VB and cant use my 3d graphics software so I am about to remove the vb now, since the only reason I have it is for the 3d application, plus it slows my system down a lot
[12:49] <savio> mithran, use "sudo mount -t hfsplus -o rw /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[12:49] <dsenator> i wi ll try the winn instal
[12:49] <mithran> savio: ok
[12:49] <savio> mithran, a word from me if you mount with write enable data written by apple backup will not use if you change the content
[12:51] <mithran> savio: ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401879/
[12:52] <mithran> savio: it shows like this
[12:53] <savio> mithran, use sudo umount /dev/sdb2 first then command i gave you your data will be on /mnt after command success
[12:55] <r_ironfist> once more: is there any way to tile windows in ubuntu's unity?
[12:56] <mithran> savio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401901/
[12:56] <mithran> savio:  is it over
[12:57] <savio> mithran, use ls /mnt
[12:57] <mithran> ok
[12:58] <savio> mithran, and if there is content then you are done
[12:58] <mithran> first  ls /mnt
[12:58] <savio> mithran, yup
[13:00] <mithran> savio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401911/
[13:00] <mithran> savio: seems like this
[13:00] <mithran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401911/
[13:01] <savio> mithran, use sudo ls /mnt
[13:02] <k1l_> no need for sudo. just use "ls -al /mnt"
[13:03] <mithran> savio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401920/
[13:04] <mithran> savio: but the disk is not yet mounted
[13:04] <savio> mithran, it is mounted in /mnt location
[13:05] <mithran> savio:  how can i copy that data to my system
[13:05] <SPYGAME> hey, is anyone having issues using xchat connecting to freenode server, everytime i try to connect to freenode it gives me "network unreachable", other servers work fine
[13:06] <mithran> seeing that i have no permission in mnt location
[13:07] <savio> mithran, you want to copy that data then you no need to mount it as writable. you should tell me first. Now use " sudo umount /mnt " then remove hard drive and reconnect again
[13:07] <mithran> savio: ok trying
[13:08] <mithran> ok
[13:08] <mithran> savio:  ok don it
[13:09] <mithran> savio:  reconnected
[13:09] <savio> mithran, now goto file manager and in Device tab you should see your hard drive
[13:10] <mithran> savio:  no cant find it
[13:10] <savio> mithran, use ls  /media
[13:11] <mithran> ok
[13:11] <savio> mithran, what you see
[13:12] <mithran> savio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401934/
[13:12] <ceriasNQZ> Hi everyone!
[13:13] <robotti^> tell me! is 12.10 notably more bloat than 12.04?
[13:13] <robotti^> because of animations on unity?
[13:13] <savio> mithran, did you see the folder name start with  APPLE ......
[13:13] <mithran> savio: APPLE Time Machine Backups
[13:14] <mithran> savio: yas
[13:14] <savio> mithran, that's your hard drive if you see the past you pasted you can get it
[13:14] <OerHeks> robotti^, what do you want for an answer?
[13:14] <savio> mithran, go there using file manager and copy everything
[13:14] <Catbuntu> Animations on Quantal are better IMO
[13:15] <Catbuntu> But when it was released Unity was buggy, is it still buggy on 12.10?
[13:15] <savio> Catbuntu, unity is more mature now even better in 12.10
[13:15] <Catbuntu> Then I should upgrade, shouldn't I?
[13:16] <rekoil> hello
[13:16] <mithran> but in medi file manager shows it as  folder contend could not be displayed
[13:16] <savio> Catbuntu, what system are  you using ? OS?
[13:16] <mithran> savio: but in medi file manager shows it as  folder contend could not be displayed
[13:16] <robotti^> OerHeks: is it? or not? because I was planning to update to 12.10. but somebody tell me that 12.10 is slower
[13:16] <rekoil> need some help installing ubuntu 12.10 on my 2012 macbook air
[13:16] <kudin_> help me why erorr
[13:16] <rekoil> its the 5,2 version
[13:16] <kudin_> Reading package lists... Done W: GPG error: http://my.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> W: GPG error: http://my.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> W: GPG error: http://my.archive.u
[13:16] <savio> mithran, ohh
[13:16] <mithran> savio: but in media file manager shows it as  folder contend could not be displayed
[13:16] <spm_Draget> Is there a commandline way to list all manually installed packages?
[13:16] <Catbuntu> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 now... I use to use Unity, and sometimes gnome shell.
[13:16] <rekoil> i want as clean an install as possible
[13:16] <spm_Draget> I.e. without any dependencies.
[13:17] <Catbuntu> I also have Xubuntu and Kubuntu 12.10 installed.
[13:17] <rekoil> so i am most certainly not installing refit
[13:17] <mithran> savio: what shall i do
[13:17] <savio> Catbuntu, you can make your own decision
[13:17] <Catbuntu> Do you recommend me upgrading?
[13:17] <rekoil> but when i do a normal install, all i get when trying to boot is "missing operating system"
[13:17] <OerHeks> robotti^, it is like kicking open doors, any newer ubuntu version is 'better'
[13:17] <Catbuntu> meh
[13:17] <rekoil> anyone know how to fix this?
[13:18] <Catbuntu> And are the NVIDIA drivers issues fixed on Quantal?
[13:18] <savio> mithran, use la command to see file inside your hard drive
[13:18] <savio> mithran, ls*
[13:18] <rekoil> any thoughts
[13:18] <rekoil> it boots fine from efi when booting from the usb
[13:18] <rekoil> but after installing it just will not boot
[13:19] <spm_Draget> rekoil: Read a bit about UEFI and Boot-Settings. Your UEFI Bootloader (if it was instlaled correctly) needs to be configured to chainload grub.
[13:19] <et_> rekoil
[13:19] <spm_Draget> Google for macbook and ubuntu and read over the parts talking about UEFI.
[13:19] <rekoil> spm_Draget: i am using apples own bootloader
[13:19] <et_> what card are you using
[13:20] <Eagleman7> What does the file_mode and dir_mode part?   /media/samba/mybooklive cifs credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[13:20] <rekoil> it is able to efi-boot the usb drive
[13:20] <mithran> savio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401950/
[13:21] <savio> mithran, not like that you should go to /media then your hard drive
[13:22] <savio> mithran, then use ls
[13:22] <rekoil> spm_Draget: any tips? i mean its booting as it should when booting from usb, is post-install all that different from that?
[13:22] <mithran> savio: please tell me the commands in order
[13:22] <spm_Draget> I do not have a macbook and do not know anything about how to get uefi-grub into the macbook bootloade,r sorry.
[13:22] <mithran> i will try them
[13:23] <spm_Draget> Is there a commandline way to list all manually installed packages? (i.e. no dependencies)
[13:23] <TakeItEZ> Eagleman7: they define what permission new created files/dirs on that share will have
[13:23] <Eagleman7> isnt the default umask better?
[13:23] <rekoil> anyone here managed to install 12.10 on a macbook air?
[13:23] <rekoil> or other macbook for that matter
[13:26] <transmadrick> anybody free to chat about Transmission?
[13:26] <TakeItEZ> Eagleman7: better than 777 in most cases, but that depends on your setup
[13:27] <TakeItEZ> !anybody | transmadrick
[13:27] <Eagleman7> and rsync/rsnapshot wont care about the file_mode= ?
[13:27] <TakeItEZ> Eagleman7: they will care
[13:28] <TakeItEZ> Eagleman7: you want rsnapshot to backup to cifs-shares?
[13:28] <Eagleman7> yes
[13:28] <TakeItEZ> Eagleman7: can cifs preserver permissions?
[13:28] <TakeItEZ> preserve*
[13:28] <Eagleman7> But i could also make a script to make a tar from the weekly.0 backup and then copy the tar to a cifs share
[13:29] <Eagleman7> I dont know if it can
[13:29] <TakeItEZ> Eagleman7: test it and see if permissions/ownerships will be kept ok
[13:29] <transmadrick> Okay, thanks ubottu. How can I make Transmission download to a specific subfolder. It only seems to allow top-level choics?
[13:29] <Eagleman7> oki
[13:31] <arturo> hey guys. i'm on mint14 right now and and downloading stuff/updates in painfully slow. anyone else have a problem? i run speedtest.net and i'm still downloading in my tiered plan's speed. also changed server to singapore and korea  instead of main (i'm in the philippines, it's closer) and no change. i'm talking 10-30kbps here when trying to download chromium
[13:31] <TakeItEZ> !mint | arturo
[13:32] <spupuser1> Hello
[13:32] <arturo> alright
[13:34] <marianne> ok... had to take the OS back to 10.04 to get the prompt to upgrade to 12.04....anyone know why? I was on 10.10
[13:34] <jrib> marianne: from 10.10, you upgrade to 11.04
[13:35] <marianne> it wasn't giving me that option...
[13:35] <jrib> marianne: can't troubleshoot that now I guess
[13:35] <marianne> it kept erroring out
[13:35] <marianne> jrib: it's all good, I'll end up where I want to be
[13:36] <Eagleman7> rsync: symlink "/media/samba/mybooklive/rsnapshot/hourly.0/homeserver/etc/init.d/udevtrigger" -> "/lib/init/upstart-job" failed: Operation not supported (95)
[13:36] <koen_> can anyone share some insight on the following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2089911 ?
[13:36] <Eagleman7> So i have to use my tar trick
[13:37] <christoffer> marianne, not sure but that is probably because those releases are no longer supported. If I remember correctly you can never upgrade to a release that has reached "end of life".
[13:37] <christoffer> that is 11.04 that has reached end of life a month ago that was your first step from 10.10
[13:38] <marianne> christoffer: that's what I was thinking. I waited too long to get around to it
[13:38] <christoffer> yea
[13:38] <spupuser1> When I try to install with wubi this error comes up, "the selected partition /var/lib/partman/devices/=dev=sda contains the following images /ubuntu/disks/root.disk". I tried deleting /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk and swap.disk (just in case) but the installer then will always ask for a chkdsk (which I performed)
[13:38] <jrib> marianne: it's possible, you can /msg ubottu !eolupgrades if you are curious
[13:39] <spupuser1> this is my third re-install of wubi, I think my .iso is corrupted
[13:39] <jrib> !verify | spupuser1
[13:40] <Yard> Hi
[13:40] <almoxarife> spupuser1: that error comes up when?
[13:40] <spupuser1> It was downloaded correctly but wubi (?) somehow corrupted/modified it.
[13:40] <Guest57513> õ/
[13:40] <jazzkutya> is it ok to ask kde question here? noone answers on #kubuntu
[13:40] <spupuser1> it comes up when I try to do a fresh re-install of ubuntu using wubi
[13:41] <marianne> jrib: not too worried about it now. update manager is showing 12.04.1 is available
[13:41] <jrib> marianne: k
[13:42] <spupuser1> oh and I forgot to mention this is ubuntu 12.04
[13:43] <almoxarife> spupuser1: there are two parts to wubi, the exe and the iso, assume they are both trash, del the /ubuntu dir, uninstall wubi via win, and go from scratch, btw, the iso can be d/l via any means you choose, just insure its it the same dir as wubi.exe when you start wubi again
[13:45] <spupuser1> I did delete /ubuntu and did remove all traces of wubi including its %temp% files, this .iso worked previously but a recent md5 shows that it has been modified
[13:46] <koen_> spupuser1: did you open the iso an an archive manager, and save it?
[13:46] <spupuser1> no I did not modify it intentionally
[13:47] <koen_> spupuser1: just get a fresh copy of the iso
[13:48] <xpoqz> fresh install, having problems when doing certain operations in window x, like using "dash home" or dragging around the windows. Using the X.org ATI driver that was installed by default. Also tried to remove vsync from compiz config manager like google suggested..
[13:48] <spupuser1> I would but my I am currently throttled and my connection is quite unstable
[13:49] <koen_> spupuser: don't use an installation source, when the cryptographic hashes don't match.
[13:50] <spupuser1> it used to match perfectly and it worked fine but my latest wubi session somehow modified it
[13:51] <emod> hey how do I make a website with ubuntu-desktop?
[13:52] <koen_> spupuser1: i don't think the wubi-installer modifies an iso. it only needs to read the iso, never write to it.
[13:52] <safer> emod: use php ide or any text editor
[13:53] <emod> safer: oh. how do I do it with php in ubuntu-desktop?
[13:53] <safer> emod: I am not sure what you are asking for
[13:54] <emod> safer:  no, just how to make a website with php in ubuntu-desktop
[13:54] <safer> emod: do you want to write php code?
[13:54] <emod> safer:  no, I want to make a website.
[13:56] <spupuser1> I will try installing with the wubi provided in the iso, bye
[13:58] <c0dr> emod: i like bluefish
[14:00] <okhi> hey
[14:01] <xpoqz> fresh install, having problems when doing certain operations in window x, like using "dash home" or dragging around the windows. Using the X.org ATI driver that was installed by default. Also tried to remove vsync from compiz config manager like google suggested..
[14:02] <nutzer> hi
[14:04] <transmadrick> Gotta go - 'bye folks!
[14:04] <qwm> hello
[14:04] <qwm> I would like to disable the function of authentication in the system since a mouse is inactive set time
[14:09] <piezo_> hello everybody, windows left and ubuntu 12.10 installed. Iḿ pretty exciting how functional this linux is, but i have a mature problem. when i activate my 3 monitors, the system has a very low performance. i dont know what the problem is, so i hope someone can help me here. if you need more informations i can tell you of course
[14:11] <quatar> hi all.. i think i accidentally broke the possibility of having a graphical interface
[14:11] <quatar> when i boot up my 12.04 LTS 64bit i just get the terminal
[14:11] <totodist1> Ciao a tutto il chan da totodist1
[14:11] <quatar> and in the ctrl+alt+f7 i have some messages (but no errors i think)
[14:11] <totodist1> list!
[14:12] <quatar> no, well, i get some errors...
[14:15] <quatar> what i have done is make and then make install of what inside the last item here: http://linuxwireless.org/download/compat-wireless-2.6/
[14:15] <quatar> it was expected to fix my eth0 connection
[14:15] <quatar> but it managed to broke my interface!
[14:15] <quatar> How can i restore that!?
[14:16] <guest-GSAHPn_> chanserv identify ricardo
[14:16] <DJones> Password change time guest-GSAHPn_ :)
[14:17] <guest-GSAHPn_> hi everyone
[14:17] <eileen> eileen2013
[14:19] <guest-GSAHPn_> I have a wifi issue with my laptop (ubuntu 12.10) after upgrading the kernel. I can't connect with wireless...(excuse my english, i'm french native language)
[14:19] <quatar> :( nobody can help me to get my graphics back?
[14:23] <almoxarife> guest-GSAHPn_: all you did was a kernel upgrade?
[14:23] <guest-GSAHPn_> yes
[14:23] <almoxarife> guest-GSAHPn_: did you include the 'headers' with the upgrade?
[14:24] <guest-GSAHPn_> in fact there was a little disconnexion during the downlaod...
[14:25] <guest-GSAHPn_> i' ve downloaded via command line (apt-get udpdate & upgrade)
[14:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:27] <almoxarife> guest-GSAHPn_: do it again if you had a 'disconnect' the first time
[14:27] <invariant> I get: /usr/bin/vlc: symbol lookup error: /usr/bin/vlc: undefined symbol: FromLocale Does anyone know why? Reinstallation of vlc did not help.
[14:28] <guest-GSAHPn_> i've done it and  i was told " nothind else to install or upgrade"
[14:28] <guest-GSAHPn_> *oops nothing
[14:29] <sqrbrkt> hi all, I'm trying to delete an empty directory on an external drive only to be told it isn't empty. I've tried as root and there are no hidden files. Any suggestions?
[14:29] <guest-GSAHPn_> is it possible to repair a kernel misintallation in command line to solve this problem?
[14:30] <almoxarife> guest-GSAHPn_: on a terminal, to insure the headers are there, 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic'
[14:30] <dimitri> i have a prob when i copy a files.... the target time is not the time of files but the current time
[14:30] <guest-GSAHPn_> ok almoxarife
[14:30] <dimitri> there is someone help me ?
[14:31] <Xabster> what
[14:32] <sidd_mak> how to list all avail packages in repos ?
[14:33] <dcherniv> dimitri, copy = create so the copy will have the current time in the time stamp
[14:33] <almoxarife> guest-GSAHPn_: assuming that some files were installed in the process, you will need to re-boot
[14:33] <badday> sqrbrkt: did u try via terminal?
[14:34] <sqrbrkt> badday: yep
[14:34] <guest-GSAHPn_> ok i quit ...and i'll be back soon
[14:34] <sqrbrkt> "rm: cannot remove ... : Directory not empty"
[14:34] <sqrbrkt> I tried sudo rm -rf
[14:35] <badday> sqrbrkt: can you cd into the dir and write "ls -a"?
[14:36] <b_head> can anyone tell me how to use backtrack5 on ubuntu 12.10?
[14:36] <sqrbrkt> badday: yep, just shows ". .."
[14:36] <badday> sqrbrkt: so you wrote "sudo rm -rf /path/to/dir"?
[14:36] <sqrbrkt> i've tried a few variations, yes that was one
[14:37] <sqrbrkt> Also tried deleting from Windows (it's on an external drive)
[14:37] <sqrbrkt> very strange!
[14:37] <b_head> can anyone tell me which one works?
[14:38] <user82> hi people. i hope this is specific enough to be "ubuntu" but i tried to use the "-d" command in screen and it just does not work. i my commandline wrong? "screen -d -S led -m make && sudo ./ledtest"
[14:38] <badday> b_head: ur question is too general
[14:38] <b_head> i have seen several descriptions but no one works for using backtrack on ubuntu. any help?
[14:39] <VIVID> b_head, try installing the software you want to use
[14:40] <ricardo_> almoxarife, are you in? if yes what should I type in terminal? thx
[14:40] <sqrbrkt> badday: thanks for your input - gotta run now
[14:40] <badday> sqrbrkt: no problem, you´re welcome
[14:41] <ricardo_> (i 'm back)
[14:41] <b_head> VIVI, i have the iso file for backtrack5 and how do i get it to work with ubuntu? it doesnt works with direct in stall
[14:42] <VIVID> b_head, its an operating system, you would install it beside or in place of ubuntu.  to use it within ubuntu, youll need to use something like virtualbox
[14:42] <VIVID> b_head, alternatively, you could just install the applications used in backtrack and use them from ubuntu
[14:43] <quatar> hi all. Suppose I accidentally broke something trying to install some unsupported module, and I now can't get graphic (ctrl+alt+f7)... how can I revert to a working configuration?
[14:43] <vitimiti> o/
[14:43] <eroomde> hi. is there a canonical guide for post-installation removal of all the amazon bloat/malware from 12.10?
[14:44] <DaemonicApathy> Depends on what you broke, quatar. A clean install is the only definite fix, without more information.
[14:44] <b_head> VIVID, what application used in backtrack i can be able to install and used from ubuntu ?
[14:44] <ricardo_> hi. after a ' apt-get update & dist-upgrade', I've lost my wireless connexion
[14:44] <TakeItEZ> !adlens | eroomde
[14:44] <VIVID> b_head, probably all of them, ubuntu has likely the largest software repository
[14:45] <eroomde> ubottu and TakeItEZ : thanks
[14:45] <eroomde> TakeItEZ: thanks
[14:45] <VIVID> !botsnack
[14:45] <quatar> DaemonicApathy, this is what i've done: http://www.zyxware.com/articles/2680/solved-wired-connection-eth0-not-detected-in-ubuntu-12-04
[14:46] <quatar> DaemonicApathy, anyway I'm ready to reinstall if necessary but it's going to be the first time I reinstall on UEFI
[14:46] <quatar> and I want to be sure that it's safe
[14:46] <ricardo_> i'm on ubuntu 12.10 . there was a little problem during the download (a little disconnexion) and the wireless connexion don't work
[14:47] <ricardo_> i'm on ubuntu 12.10 . there was a little problem during the download (a little disconnexion) and the wireless connexion don't work
[14:47] <pbt> !topic
[14:48] <ricardo_> is it possible to repair the kernel?
[14:48] <VIVID> ricardo_, i have to think that if it was broken, the computer wouldnt do anything
[14:48] <giuseppe_> hi all, anyone could help me in the omniauth and twitter connections? I'm using this guide: http://railscasts.com/episodes/235-omniauth-part-1 but after when I try I get OAuth::Unauthorized  401 Unauthorized
[14:49] <joint2k> ubuntu can't see my windows 8 partition
[14:49] <DaemonicApathy> quatar: Assuming the instll went without error, did you also restart your system?
[14:50] <bhavesh> Unity is quite laggy in 12.10, it takes 1-2 secs to open the dash after clicking dash home, also search and browsing installed apps is laggy, I already installed nvidia proprietary drivers, any fixes?
[14:51] <quatar> DaemonicApathy, the install went wihout errors but the modprobe couldn't find "alx". Then i rebooted (but i only got a terminal), apt-get upgraded too etc...
[14:51] <VIVID> bhavesh, did you restart the machine after installing the nvidia drivers?
[14:51] <quatar> anyway in the meantime I'm again installing the system DaemonicApathy!
[14:51] <bhavesh> VIVID, yup
[14:52] <almoxarife> ricardo_: is the only issue 'wifi'?
[14:52] <ricardo_> yes.
[14:52] <konrad__> hi
[14:53] <almoxarife> ricardo_: in terminal, 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit' follow that with 'sudo pastebinit /var/log/syslog' the output link share here
[14:53] <Guest19426>  
[14:54] <bhavesh>  
[14:54] <Guest19426> I want to change the pc name ,but I don't known  how to change
[14:54] <Guest19426> help
[14:54] <DaemonicApathy> Ok, quatar. Turns out the compat drivers listed in the main article don't support alx. You would have to use "compat-wireless-2012-05-09-p.tar.bz2" or "compat-wireless-2012-05-09-pc.tar.bz2" if you were to try the process again.
[14:55] <jrib> !hostname | Guest19426
[14:55] <quatar> DaemonicApathy, yes i'll need to redo the process. Thanks for the suggestion.
[14:56] <bhavesh> Guest19426, gksudo gedit /etc/hostname in terminal
[14:56] <quatar> DaemonicApathy, but -p and -pc in what differ?
[14:56] <DaemonicApathy> There is t least one mention of -p not working, while -pc did.
[14:56] <ricardo_> almoraxife: done
[14:56] <Guest19426> ok  I try it
[14:56] <almoxarife> ricardo_: the link?
[14:57] <ricardo_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402139/
[15:00] <ricardo_> almoraxife, do you see  the problem?
[15:01] <IwillFindU_> findwhat
[15:01] <quatar> DaemonicApathy, for my information, how come that there exist working drivers since a long while and they are not still distributed with ubuntu?
[15:03] <IwillFindU_> Hello,everyone!
[15:04] <joint2k> ubuntu can't see my windows 8 partition. its impossible to dual boot
[15:04] <jsx> does the ubuntu image i just downloaded has all the patches released so far
[15:04] <joint2k> no secure boot
[15:04] <joint2k> windows 8 will not allow a daisy chain dualboot at the moment
[15:04] <joint2k> when to fix?
[15:05] <jsx> hi, can anyone answer this question in askubuntu.com "does the ubuntu image i just downloaded has all the patches released so far" --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/224125/does-the-ubuntu-image-i-just-downloaded-already-have-all-the-latest-patches-and
[15:05] <Tm_T> joint2k: this is not a place to ask that
[15:05] <Tm_T> jsx: does not, but it does offer installing updates rightaway, or even during the install I believe
[15:05] <joint2k> of course not...
[15:06] <Tm_T> joint2k: if you need support, please ask, but stop polluting the support channel with non-support discussion/monologue, thanks (:
[15:06] <joint2k> well thanks. this room is always so helpful
[15:06] <joint2k> yea.. whatever
[15:06] <jsx> oh, ok.. I couldnt find reliable info on that anywhere else, so asked
[15:06] <Tm_T> jsx: it's good to ask when unsure (:
[15:07] <jsx> :)
[15:07] <almoxarife> ricardo_: did wifi work prior to upgrading the kernel? what was the old kernel?
[15:07] <ricardo_> yes , it worked before upgrading...
[15:09] <d13g_> me too
[15:09] <OerHeks> jsx, only development version 13.04 has a daily build
[15:09] <hitman2010456> hi
[15:10] <hitman2010456> Hello ẞ
[15:10] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[15:10] <hitman2010456> LOL
[15:11] <hitman2010456> Whats up ẞ
[15:11] <d13g_> quit()
[15:11] <DaemonicApathy> quatar: No idea.
[15:11] <hitman2010456> WHO ARE U
[15:11] <jsx> thanks OerHeks
[15:11] <jsx> and Tm_T
[15:12] <hitman2010456> hello
[15:12] <hitman2010456> hello
[15:12] <badday> sb kick him?
[15:12] <almoxarife> ricardo_: i would re-install the last kernel that did work
[15:12] <hitman2010456> is there a book to understand BackTrack
[15:13] <Tm_T> !backtrack | hitman2010456
[15:13] <b_head> i would like that too. a book to understand backtrack
[15:13] <DaemonicApathy> hitman2010456: http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/forum.php
[15:14] <hitman2010456> I need to know  how programming to understand BackTrack
[15:14] <OerHeks> hitman2010456, wrong channel
[15:14] <xomniverse> Is it possible to make Guake so that, when it is transparent, it shows whatever windows I have up behind it rather than the desktop? Right now, adjusting the transparency just shows more or less of the desktop behind it.
[15:14] <hitman2010456> Okey,Okey
[15:14] <DJones> hitman2010456: As the link says, you need to ask in the backtrack irc channels, this is only support for Ubuntu
[15:15] <b_head> UBOTTU, if someone wants to crack a wifi key using reaver on backtrack, how does one go about this on ubuntu 12.10? i already installed reaver on my ubuntu
[15:15] <hitman2010456> you are
[15:15] <nongoogle> I forgot my password :C
[15:16] <hitman2010456> from what
[15:17] <b_head> UBOTTU, where is the backtrack irc channels located?
[15:17] <DJones> !backtrack > b_head
[15:17] <OerHeks> !pasword
[15:17] <OerHeks> !password
[15:18] <hitman2010456> UBOTTU, where is the backtrack irc channels located
[15:18] <OerHeks> hitman2010456, read back.
[15:18] <hitman2010456> Battlefield 3
[15:19] <naxil> ciao
[15:19] <naxil> mi servirebbe di capire come settare una porta su un ip.. qualcuno puo aiutarmi?
[15:19] <hitman2010456> ubuntu is strange
[15:19] <naxil> ooops eng channel
[15:20] <hitman2010456> no its german
[15:20] <OerHeks> stop trolling, hitman2010456
[15:20] <hitman2010456> Ok, Sry bro.
[15:20] <almoxarife> hitman2010456: perhaps this will help, http://bit.ly/Sx5Jue
[15:20] <BluesKaj> hitman2010456, click here, #backtrack
[15:22] <hitman2010456> Bros, can somebody help me to understand linux
[15:22] <badday> I am trying to connect to my android tablet in fastboot mode (blue LED on, usb deb. activated), lsusb does recognize it, anyway, fastboot does not list it; any clues?
[15:22] <b_head>  CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE TO FIND THE BACKTRACK IRC CHANELL?
[15:23] <hitman2010456> ME TOO PLEASE
[15:23] <badday> b_head: don´t shout
[15:23] <k1l> !backtrack | hitman2010456
[15:23] <badday> hitman2010456: you were told about that. If you have no clue, inform urself how IRC works
[15:24] <almoxarife> badday: perhaps #android-root can help
[15:24] <badday> almoxarife: ok, I will ask there, too, however, I thought that might be a Ubuntu-specific issue
[15:24] <tulpe> Hi, suspend isn't working on my dell notebook, when I push the suspend button or the menu entry, nothing happens. pm-suspend works flawless. Any ideas?
[15:25] <almoxarife> badday: no
[15:26] <nongoogle> on my ubuntu box i opened up a root account to change my password but when i try to get my password changed i see errors, when i try to delete the password i get something about /etc/shadow
[15:27] <k1l> badday: did you see the device with "sudo fastboot devices"?
[15:27] <badday> almoxarife: is that channel on freenode?
[15:27] <badday> k1l: no, but it appears at lsusb
[15:27] <badday> k1l: but fastboot does not recognize it
[15:29] <Onixs> device should also be in fastboot isnt it
[15:29] <k1l> badday: erm? is it in fastboot mode?
[15:29] <badday> k1l: think so, pressed vol+ and power, display is black, blue LED on and ID changed at lsusb
[15:30] <k1l> badday: that dffers fro device to device. but since that is not  a ubuntu issue better ask the device-community what exactly to do
[15:30] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone do any screencasting with ffmpeg?
[15:30] <Onixs> either that or add vendor
[15:31] <k1l> like looking at xda-developers
[15:31] <ubuntuaddicted> keep getting Could not open 'rtmp://live.justin.tv/
[15:31] <badday> k1l: unfortunately it´s quite an unknown device
[15:31] <badday> k1l: Already wrote there at the forum, do they have a IRC-Channel?
[15:32] <almoxarife> ubuntuaddicted: yeap, nothing there
[15:33] <ubuntuaddicted> almoxarife, obviously theres nothing there, it fails to start the stream of my desktop with the error I posted
[15:34] <badday> k1l: here is my post there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34796538
[15:34] <almoxarife> ubuntuaddicted: obviously :)
[15:34] <almoxarife> ubuntuaddicted: the link is incomplete
[15:35] <ubuntuaddicted> almoxarife, i omitted my live key for obvious reasons
[15:35] <ubuntuaddicted> almoxarife, how can i tell if my ffmpeg is capable of steaming? http://pastebin.com/ygMRgcxF
[15:35] <leohak> ola
[15:36] <almoxarife> ubuntuaddicted: obviously,
[15:36] <leohak> Is the Ubuntu tv out yet?
[15:36] <almoxarife> ubuntuaddicted: no idea
[15:37] <leohak> Okay Catherine
[15:37] <leohak> I mean how.  Lol
[15:37] <leohak> Hi
[15:37] <catherine> hi!
[15:37] <k1l> leohak: no, its not yet published
[15:38] <leohak> Was hoping to buy one
[15:39] <leohak> I bet they have problems with the content providers
[15:39] <k1l> badday: sure that device got fastboot?
[15:39] <thelinux> Amazing, I got few days ago to steam beta, you should check your emails, I guess they added more steam beta testers.
[15:39] <gulag2012> Next year maybe? Still fiddling with XBMC. Is the plan for Ubuntu tv to be integrated in Televisions or a set top box?
[15:40] <leohak> On the tv
[15:40] <k1l> badday: not all devices got that. the motorola milestone didnt have fastboot, too. so that would be my first point of search
[15:40] <badday> k1l: how can I be sure?  pressed vol+ and power, display is black, blue LED on and ID changed at lsusb
[15:40] <k1l> badday: and that is not a ubuntu issue. when adb is installed from the repos on 12.10 fastboot works
[15:40] <leohak> Even on set top boxes it would. Be ok
[15:41] <gulag2012> I watched a video on Youtube for it. It looked very promising. It's a very crowded market.
[15:41] <almoxarife> ok, so i installed lxde-buntu on the android tablet, works great, except for key presses, how do i fake a right-click?
[15:42] <almoxarife> ok, so i installed lxde-buntu on the android tablet, works great, except for key presses, how do i fake a right-click? within lxde that is
[15:43] <leohak> Maybe even the manufacturers don't want other companies doing the software
[15:43] <badday> almoxarife. did u install it native?
[15:43] <gulag2012> Well, it's hard everyone wants you to be in there own walled garden.
[15:44] <jazzkutya> no msttcorefonts package in 12.10? how can I install those fonts?
[15:44] <nrdb> I have a mdadm raid system setup... I noticed that it was doing a resync .... but I had received no mail to notify my of it ... :-( ... I checked the mdadm can mail me with "mdadm --monitor --scan --test" and I got the emails ... mdadm is running in daemon mode .... why didn't I get an email?
[15:44] <compdoc> gulag2012, how do you like XBMC? I recently installed Plex Media, and its seems to work pretty well
[15:44] <leohak> True.
[15:44] <funkt> hi there would anyone know how i can change the background colour of my folders in 12.04 to say black?
[15:45] <gulag2012> I love XBMC, other than the menu system. I like it a lot. It plays everything and I can stream all my favorite tech shows.
[15:45] <leohak> Or just buy an mede8er
[15:45] <leohak> Lol
[15:45] <almoxarife> badday: native?
[15:45] <badday> almoxarife: yeah, or just on top of android?
[15:46] <badday> k1l: I just realized that if  I start the device in fastboot-mode (as I think) with Micro-SD-card inserted, it does not appear at lsusb at all
[15:48] <almoxarife> badday: not sure how to answer that, its not an app, i would say its running native in the background
[15:48] <Guest15397> i have installed the aswesome window manager, i use it by loggin in an typing "startx" i dont really want to do this and have seen before a login prompt of which would be much better. Please could someone let me know how i can achiev this? Thanks
[15:48] <gulag2012> I just found away to get Adobe flash player off my system. There is a greasemonkey plugin called Viewtube.
[15:48] <badday> almoxarife: do u use the arm- branch then?
[15:49] <dcherniv> Guest15397, what do you want exactly?
[15:49] <almoxarife> badday: yeap, the omap4 kernel
[15:50] <badday> almoxarife: so I guess u had to boot to fastboot mode, too, hadn´t u?
[15:50] <Guest15397> i want the system to bootup to a gui login manager that logs me in to awesome.
[15:51] <koen_> can anyone shed some light on the following? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2089911
[15:51] <Guest15397> either that or way to stop other people from going onto terminal 1 and breaking the startx command and thus having access to my machine
[15:51] <gulag2012> Ha ha. Logs me in to awesome!
[15:51] <Guest15397> whats funny ?
[15:51] <dcherniv> Guest15397, you can install gdm or for kde kdm or if you want lightweight Slim is nice
[15:52] <dimitri> how i preserve time and date file to copy with nautilus ?
[15:52] <KingArschfick> hi
[15:52] <Guest15397> ok ill take a look at gdm thanks
[15:52] <Guest15397> what about xdm ?
[15:52] <xrlgf> hello, in firefox where can i remove the tools that are installed when browsing a website, (tools inform we can add shotcust and other stuff for websites)?
[15:52] <dimitri> cp and scp use -p parameter but nautilus ?
[15:53] <KingArschfick> warum ist das hier so boring
[15:54] <badday> KingArschfick: Username is offensive, ask questions if you want, otherwise you get kicked. No German language allowed, English only
[15:54] <KingArschfick> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVRMCR3mZuM
[15:55] <badday> !!
[15:56] <Freeaqingme> How can I configure dhclient (preferably via /etc/networking/interfaces) that it uses a different fqdn per interface?
[15:57] <NiggaWhatNiggaOh> hi
[15:57] <badday> !ask | NiggaWhatNiggaOh
[15:58] <dcherniv> Freeaqingme, /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[16:07] <pazzie> hi all, someone here who can help me out with 3d support?
[16:09] <Sornaensis> sup pazzie
[16:09] <badday> !ask | pazzie
[16:09] <Sornaensis> what can I do you fer
[16:09] <pazzie> aah okay thanks ubottu
[16:10] <dimitri> how i set nautilus to preserve date time and permission ?
[16:10] <esteeven_> exit
[16:10] <esteeven_> quit
[16:10] <pazzie> well i just installed ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop compaq 6715b, and i notice that my 3d support is slow on response
[16:11] <pazzie> all the grafical things are working, but slow. when i click dash home for example it takes like 2 sec for to respond
[16:11] <Sornaensis> what cpu
[16:11] <Sornaensis> and gpu
[16:12] <Sornaensis> do you have
[16:12] <pazzie> i am new to linux, i just switched today from windows to ubuntu so bare with me ;)
[16:12] <pazzie> Sornaensis, amd x64 dual core
[16:12] <badday> pazzie: should be ATI xpress 1250, right?
[16:13] <pazzie> and i believe a ati video card,
[16:13] <zykotick9> pazzie: to get video into, in terminal, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[16:13] <zykotick9> s/into/info/
[16:13] <pazzie> yes badday
[16:14] <bobweaver> what is a mesa stack ?
[16:14] <bobweaver> for intel
[16:14] <chanthu> hi
[16:15] <th3cr4zy> .user
[16:15] <pazzie> zykotick9 and badday yes it is a ati express 1200 series card
[16:15] <relipse> how do i get my GUI X - [] buttons on the right side like windows instead of the left
[16:15] <pazzie> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS690M [Radeon X1200 Serie
[16:15] <DJones> !controls | relipse
[16:16] <bobweaver> libmesa like open gl ?
[16:16] <chanthu> hey how long ago u guys started using ubuntu
[16:17] <relipse> ubottu: can't I move them to the right? I am a windows user
[16:17] <relipse> DJones
[16:17] <Tex_Nick> bobweaver : mesa stack > http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=intel%20mesa%20stack&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload.intel.com%2Fdesign%2Fintarch%2Fpapers%2F325350.pdf&ei=KS26UPrTFIjY2AX7xICYBQ&usg=AFQjCNGJObpN06kkJin-gyiNsCKb67hBkQ
[16:17] <IdleOne> relipse: read what the bot said
[16:19] <bobweaver> Tex_Nick,  thanks but what is the package called ? on the wiki that I am reading it says to add repo unless on 12.10
[16:19] <Tex_Nick> bobweaver : fraid i can't help ya there. sorry ;(
[16:23] <Tex_Nick> bobweaver : see if this helps ... there are a couple of links there that might help  > http://askubuntu.com/questions/87104/how-do-i-install-the-lastest-mesa-driver-in-11-10
[16:26] <Jef91> Anyone know if there is a way to output audio over a bluetoot headset somehow?
[16:26] <Dougie187> When something in ubuntu crashes, and it tries to generate a bug report does it also take a memory dump? Or is it just a stack trace?
[16:28] <Dandylion> hi all, when booting from a USB stick created with "usb-startup-creator-gtk", it does not save desktop theme customizations or remember packages/sw installed with the package manager, isnt the bootable usb supposed to remember such settings across reboots?
[16:28] <RickZilla> I installed 12.10 along side of Windows using the live cd...when I'm in the GRUB menu at startup, is it possible to make Windows the first option instead of Ubuntu?
[16:28] <kristenbb> hi, whenever I boot my computer, I get an error window right after the ubuntu loading screen (and before logging in) saying "the system is running in low graphics mode. Your screen, graphic card, and input settings could not be detected correctly, you need to configure tthem yourself". And all I can do is reboot. What can I do ?
[16:29] <RickZilla> Dandylion: Mine didn't, I just installed from Live USB last night
[16:29] <zykotick9> Dandylion: not by default.  you need to add persistance (non-default).  but a better idea would be to just install to the usb (if you don't need it for installing on other systems)
[16:29] <gaby> hello everybody - iam trying to install some programs TAR.GZ   and i dont know how to do so - can i get help please ?
[16:30] <escott> RickZilla, the way i would do it is move /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 03_os-prober
[16:30] <jrib> gaby: what program?
[16:30] <escott> RickZilla, rather 09_os-prober
[16:30] <RickZilla> escott: I have no idea what that means
[16:30] <escott> RickZilla, just look at the files in /etc/grub.d they are run in order to generate your boot config
[16:30] <Dandylion> zykotick9: I would like to use it with several computers, but also with selected tools and settings... How to make it "persistent"?
[16:31] <RickZilla> K, I'll look at it, thanks
[16:31] <gaby> jrib: this is the program     Nuke6.1v1-linux-x86-release-64
[16:31] <zykotick9> Dandylion: i never liked persistance... good luck.
[16:31] <[snake]> is there an easy way to switch to 64 bit ubuntu 12.04?
[16:31] <escott> [snake], reinstall
[16:32] <Dandylion> zykotick9: why didnt you like it? Any particular reason/glitch? Where should I look for that feature to check it out?
[16:32] <[snake]> escott, can I somehow save all my programs and have them re installed easily at least?
[16:32] <zykotick9> Dandylion: i think usb-creator might have the option?
[16:32] <pazzie> badday, can you help me?
[16:32] <quatar> Hi everybody... if somebody can help me understand my situation and fix something in dual-booting Win8 / Ubuntu with grub.(u)efi it would be appreciated :D
[16:32] <Dandylion> zykotick9: ah, will check, thanks for the pointer! :-)
[16:33] <zykotick9> Dandylion: fyi, i'm unsure if programs get saved...
[16:33] <escott> !clone | [snake]
[16:33] <jrib> gaby: if it isn't in the repositories, then you should: 1) look to see if the author provides a repository of his own for your ubuntu version (maybe a ppa?)  2) look to see if the author provides a .deb for your version of ubuntu  3) read its documentation on how to install it.   There is no generic way to install a tar.gz.  A tar.gz is just an archive of files.  You must read its documentation (which is
[16:33] <jrib> sometimes included inside the archive as README).  See ubottu for generic instructions on installing software
[16:33] <jrib> !install | gaby
[16:33] <jrib> erm
[16:33] <jrib> !software | gaby
[16:34] <gaby> ubottu : can you please wait ?????
[16:34] <Dandylion> zykotick9: well, the very "usb-startup-creator" itself is not part of LM anymore, so there is a very obvious tool to wish would "get stuck on the stick" :-)
[16:34] <gaby> jirb: please go with me step by step as i dont know much about linux
[16:34] <badday> pazzie: so it is xpress 1250, yeah?
[16:35] <jrib> gaby: what do you have a question about?
[16:35] <kristenbb> hi, whenever I boot my computer, I get an error window right after the ubuntu loading screen (and before logging in) saying "the system is running in low graphics mode. Your screen, graphic card, and input settings could not be detected correctly, you need to configure tthem yourself". And all I can do is reboot. What can I do ?
[16:36] <[snake]> escott, what is multiarch? does that mean like what I'm doing from 32 bit to 64 bit? because it says it could potentially cause problems.
[16:36] <jrib> [snake]: what ubuntu version are you on?
[16:36] <[snake]> jrib, 12.04 32 bit
[16:36] <escott> [snake], multiarch allows you to install i386 packages on x86_64 systems
[16:37] <badday> pazzie: I need exact device name to help u
[16:37] <zykotick9> kristenbb: did it always do that?  or only after you tried to install some video drivers?  what graphics card?  (ctrl+alt+f1 to get to TTY to login, then "lspci | grep -i vga" to show video card details.
[16:37] <pazzie> badday, yes
[16:37] <escott> [snake], so you would need to audit the generated list and remove any and all references to :i386
[16:37] <[snake]> escott, Ok, I think I'll give this a try. thanks.
[16:37] <badday> pazzie: is it a notebook?
[16:38] <kristenbb> zykotick9: yes only after I tried to install the driver, but that's the first thing I did when I installed ubuntu. The video card is nvidia gtx 680.
[16:38] <gaby> jrib :  i want to install this Nuke6.1v1-linux-x86-release-64
[16:38] <zykotick9> kristenbb: did you use teh driver from nvidia.com or from ubuntu?
[16:38] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone know how to get photos videos off an iphone in ubuntu?
[16:39] <pazzie> badday, yes, a compaq 6715b
[16:39] <jrib> gaby: so what was the first thing I said you need to do?  Check if the author provides a repository for it.  I cannot do that as you have not linked me to where that software comes from
[16:39] <kristenbb> zykotick9: I used the driver that was marked 'recommended' when the window showed up.
[16:39] <pazzie> badday, amdx64 dual core, 4gb, 120 SSD
[16:39] <zykotick9> kristenbb: that's good!
[16:39] <chris__> Hi there does anyone here please know how I can change the background color of my folders in 12.04
[16:40] <kristenbb> zykotick9: well apparently not, I can't log into my computer...
[16:40] <gaby> jrib: i dont know how to check it -thats why iam asking for step by step guiding
[16:40] <chris__> it used to be very simple in previous versions
[16:40] <jrib> gaby: you need to say where this software is coming from...?
[16:40] <badday> pazzie: if ur GPU appears here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.2.3.2&lang=English u can download the linux driver there
[16:40] <chris__> I have tried to use gconf-editor but there is no option to change the hex code
[16:40] <badday> if u use 64bit OS
[16:40] <IdleOne> jrib: from what I can see that software is not open source and not free.
[16:40] <jrib> IdleOne: I see
[16:41] <IdleOne> gaby: There are tons of forums explaining how to do what you want. This channel can't help you.
[16:42] <gaby> jrib: please say it clear - step 1- where to go what to do .... iam not expert with linux at all
[16:42] <zykotick9> kristenbb: from a quick search online i see http://askubuntu.com/questions/147576/cant-install-gtx-680-drivers-on-12-04 which recommends installing the nvidia.com driver :(  good luck, hope you find a better solution.
[16:42] <jrib> gaby: step 1: say where you are getting the software from.
[16:42] <jrib> gaby: I'm not sure how to be clearer.
[16:42] <pazzie> okay badday i am downloading it, what do i need to do after the download is complete, like i said before i am new to linux
[16:42] <gaby> jrib: what you mean where comes from .... i got it from some website
[16:42] <jrib> gaby: say the website.
[16:43] <k1l> gaby: ask the one, where you got that program.
[16:43] <chris__> Hi there does anyone here please know how I can change the background color of my folders in 12.04?
[16:43] <zykotick9> kristenbb: using xswat is probably better then nvidia.com driver...
[16:44] <gaby> jrib: i got it from some website but some friend who got it  and gave it to me .... the program is on my HD already
[16:44] <gaby> jrib: where is the point of knowing the website ?
[16:44] <k1l> gaby: to install a program or a game there are several ways. but we cant guess which way is for your software
[16:44] <jrib> gaby: you need to ask the author if he provides a repository for ubuntu.  You can check on the website.  I asked you to do this, but you said you need clearer steps.  So I was going to check myself if there is a repository.
[16:44] <OerHeks> gaby, nuke is commercial, with their own support > http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/products/nuke/
[16:45] <gaby> k1l: i dont want  any one to  guess- i need only guiding to let you know the information you want
[16:45] <simplew> how can i disable NON GNOME apps from appearing with italic fonts ?
[16:45] <jrib> OerHeks: if http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/products/nuke/ is the software in question as OerHeks suggests, then your best course of action is to contact them about how to install the software you purchased
[16:46] <gaby> jrib: so  i should leave now ????
[16:46] <Orphis> I'm having problems connecting an Apple BT keyboard to my computer using the BT chip integrated in my motherboard identified by lsusb as "ID 0b05:17b5 ASUSTek Computer, Inc."
[16:46] <jrib> gaby: you should ask the folks at http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/products/nuke/ for help installing nuke
[16:47] <badday> pazzie: see linux install instructions at the same site, if you still have questions, feel free to ask
[16:47] <IdleOne> gaby: Have you tried Blender, it is in the Software Center and is 100% free of charge.
[16:47] <Orphis> If I load the module btusb and the put device if in /sys/bus/usb/drivers/btusb/new_id , the internal bt is working, I can somehow discover devices but it's always disconnecting
[16:47] <Orphis> It worked fine using Arch Linux though
[16:48] <OerHeks> gaby, here are some answers, http://www.digitaltutors.com/forum/showthread.php?22503-How-exactly-to-install-Nuke-in-Linux
[16:49] <IdleOne> OerHeks: lets move on :)
[16:49] <zykotick9> IdleOne: you can even say blender is 100% free ;)  http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Blender
[16:49] <IdleOne> zykotick9: true
[16:51] <jazzkutya> will there be nvidia-experimental-* packages for future driver releases from nvidia?
[16:52] <IdleOne> jazzkutya: that would be up to nvidia. We don't know
[16:52] <jazzkutya> this is the ubuntu packaged version
[16:52] <yanick_> Hi, will HDMI sound be supported at some point with the open source ATI driver (for a Radio HD 3xxx card) ?
[16:52] <IdleOne> correct, but they can only be packaged if nvidia releases the code to the packagers. up to them.
[16:53] <jazzkutya> considering i see almost latest version numbers with these packages i guess they do that
[16:54] <IdleOne> jazzkutya: safe guess
[16:54] <simplew> does anyone have a clue why NON GNOME apps (like kde apps dolphin,konversation) appear with italic fonts in UBUNTU?
[16:56] <serp_> better than comic sans
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> simplew  to indicate that they are non-gnome, i guess
[17:00] <ubuntuaddicted> is there a way to get files off an iphone 4s with ubuntu?
[17:00] <escott> !iphone
[17:01] <Dandylion> the "usb-creator-gtk" has an option called "When starting up from this disk, documents and settings will be - stored in reserved space". Still theme customizations are not preserved across restarts, why?
[17:02] <Peyam> I have trouble using my VGA cable
[17:02] <Dandylion> (it is even the default option, but it does not seem to save "settings")
[17:02] <Peyam> I have a ubuntu here
[17:02] <ubuntuaddicted> escott, that's for iOS up to 4.01, not 6.0.1
[17:04] <signornessuno> hi
[17:05] <signornessuno> i need help configuring a bluetooth headset
[17:05] <ubuntuaddicted> so no one knows how to get photos, videos, and music to and from the iphone 4s? running 6.0.1?
[17:05] <jrib> !iphone | ubuntuaddicted
[17:05] <xangua> ubuntuaddicted: are you using ubuntu 12.10¿
[17:06] <IdleOne> ubuntuaddicted: plug it in, it should get auto mounted and you should be able to use the file manager (Nautilus) to move files to and from.
[17:07] <ubuntuaddicted> IdleOne, using 10.04.4
[17:07] <signornessuno> i use blueman and it seem to be connected and paired with audio sink, i get a beep when i configure audio sink in blueman, but pavucontrol don't see the device
[17:07] <Dandylion> hi all, is it common that laptop mousepad "tapping" (instead of normal button clicking" is not supported out of the box with (most?) Live CD/DVD/USB (Ubuntu, Mint, ...) ?
[17:07] <ubuntuaddicted> xangua, using 10.04.4
[17:08] <ubuntuaddicted> it shows up in dmesg as usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
[17:08] <xangua> ubuntuaddicted: well, your're likely gonna get nothing :) 12.10 supports iOS6
[17:08] <ubuntuaddicted> luckily i still have 1 win xp box in the house.
[17:09] <ubuntuaddicted> xangua, does 12.04 support it? i like sticking with LTS releases
[17:09] <escott> ubuntuaddicted, its a bit silly to expect a 2.5 year old OS to support a brand new phone
[17:09] <Dandylion> re: startup persistence: even "list mode" is not remembered across boots, so which "settings" are stored if any at all? (Using LinuxMint13 right now)
[17:09] <ubuntuaddicted> escott, true, thats' why i am asking. It is an LTS and supported till next april
[17:09] <IdleOne> !mint | Dandylion
[17:09] <xangua> good for you, it's a never ending story ubuntuaddicted; even when you are using the latest ubuntu version when a iOS update is released the support will likely break
[17:09] <escott> ubuntuaddicted, that means it get security updates until april
[17:10] <ubuntuaddicted> xangua, neverending story? whats with the attitude?
[17:10] <ubuntuaddicted> xangua, are you aware if 12.04 works with it?
[17:10] <killer> hi...is there a  way i can replace the ubuntu icon with icon of my choice...in the unity laucher(the very first icon in launcher)
[17:10] <escott> ubuntuaddicted, apple intentionally changes their wire protocols to keep people from using iphone with anything but itunes
[17:11] <Dandylion> ubottu: It is based on ubuntu 12.04, and I use the usb-create-gtk, not sure if this is related specifically to linuxmint. Would be great if anyone can confirm that these things actually work on Ubuntu, then I will consider using that instead.
[17:11] <IdleOne> ubuntuaddicted: I think what he meant was that the issues with supporting iOS is a never ending story.
[17:11] <IdleOne> Dandylion: Mint is not supported in Ubuntu channels. ask the mint people
[17:12] <ubuntuaddicted> IdleOne, ah, amkes sense
[17:12] <ubuntuaddicted> are you aware if it works with 12.04?
[17:12] <IdleOne> ubuntuaddicted: you could try a live cd of 12.04 and test
[17:13] <ubuntuaddicted> IdleOne, that's my next step I guess
[17:13] <ubuntuaddicted> thanks
[17:13] <Dandylion> IdleOne: can you confirm if that is indeed working with Ubuntu 12.04? If it is a Mint issue, then perhaps I will use the Ubuntu distro instead. However, I suspect this is a general bug affecting both distros...?
[17:13] <IdleOne> Dandylion: I haven't made a persistent USB in a long while but from what i remember it worked fine. make a live USB and test :)
[17:13] <angelpossum> idleone please go to ubunto_offtopic
[17:14] <pazzie> badday, are you still here?
[17:14] <badday> pazzie: yeah
[17:14] <angelpossum> er ubuntu_offtopic
[17:14] <IdleOne> angelpossum: Something I can help with?
[17:15] <IdleOne> angelpossum: the channel name is #ubuntu-offtopic btw and I am there
[17:15] <richweskus> iv started buying all my music using ubuntu music store.. do i now own the music? i read somewhere a while ago - when you buy music on itunes you dont actually own it...
[17:15] <pazzie> okay, well i tryed to install it after i downloaded it, but for some reason i can see the file in the terminal but when i try to do ./at[tab] nothing happens...
[17:15] <IdleOne> richweskus: you own that copy of it.
[17:15] <pazzie> i will make a pastebin
[17:17] <escott> richweskus, you own it to the same extent you own any other digital good. you might be thinking about encryption. itunes music is (was?) encrypted so it could only be played in itunes
[17:17] <pazzie> badday, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402507/
[17:18] <badday> pazzie: write "sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run"
[17:19] <escott> pazzie, you should install the supported way first
[17:19] <richweskus> escott: ok thanks :) i used to pirate all my music a few years ago. But iv decided because i earn enough money im going to pay these artists for entertaining me the past decade at their expense :D
[17:19] <richweskus> so im not so sure about all these legal issues etc
[17:20] <acicula> richweskus: its dependent on the store, itunes licenses the use, so you dont own a copy
[17:21] <richweskus> but i can own it for ever but wont be able to transfer it to someone else?
[17:21] <pazzie> badday, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402515/
[17:21] <IdleOne> licensing technicalities of media is not on topic for this channel. No, you don't own Justin Beiber now.
[17:21] <acicula> richweskus: you can not transfer or sell that which you do not own
[17:22] <richweskus> okay but i can with ubuntu tunes
[17:22] <plusEV> lol
[17:22] <IdleOne> richweskus: no
[17:22] <acicula> if the ubuntu tunes sells you a copy, then yes, otherwise no
[17:22] <xangua> richweskus: yes you can share the mucis you buy in the ubuntu music store, is drm free :)
[17:22] <richweskus> okay thanks
[17:22] <richweskus> just another reason i love ubuntu
[17:22] <xangua> !ot | a little offtopic, don't you think ;)
[17:23] <anon_> I am on Ubuntuj 12.10 and created file .bash_aliases. In .bash_aliases I put alias dload='wget -c -P kkkkkk' When I put dload cnn./movie/movie.mpg for example Ubuntu tells me that this command does not exist.
[17:23] <richweskus> im asking about ubuntu music store?
[17:23] <richweskus> thats pretty on-topic iyam
[17:23] <richweskus> iyam = if you ask me
[17:23] <escott> anon_, aliases don't do replacement. what is the kkkkk for?
[17:23] <badday> pazzie: I am not familiar with ATI GPU drivers, I am sorry. Maybe someone around here can help u
[17:24] <IdleOne> richweskus: no it isn't. Canonical operates the music store, contact them about licensing issues.
[17:24] <anon_> escott, a directory
[17:24] <pazzie> okay thanks badday
[17:24] <thesadmafioso> pazzi: check ##hardware
[17:24] <pazzie> is there anyone else here who can help me out, with ATI GPU drivers?
[17:25] <anon_> escott, so an alias can not be fed parameters?
[17:25] <escott> anon_, as long as that is a full path and the url on the command line is correct it should work
[17:25] <thesadmafioso> pazzie: sorry, mispelled your nick. check ##hardware, there are usually some VERY knowledgable folks hanging around in there who are pretty approachable.
[17:25] <acicula> pazzie: what are you trying to do?
[17:25] <escott> anon_, i thought you were trying to replace the kkkk with something
[17:25] <VIVID> so...is there any way i can get both 32bit and 64bit flash players installed? doesnt need to be done with the package manager necessarily
[17:26] <badday> acicula: installing proprietary ATI driver (latest version, 64 bit)
[17:26] <escott> pazzie, have you tried installing them the supported way?
[17:26] <VIVID> pazzie, is there some reason youre not using the prepackaged drivers?
[17:27] <Orphis> Can anybody help me setup bluetooth on my machine?
[17:27] <hmsimha> anyone know how to change resolution on xubuntu?
[17:27] <anon_> escott, no I want to call the alias with dload someurl.com/somefile.file
[17:28] <IdleOne> anon_: did you sorce .bash_aliases after adding your file?
[17:28] <IdleOne> source*
[17:28] <badday> !ask | Orphis
[17:28] <escott> anon_, alias expansion is at the end only. alias foo=bar bin; when called as foo baz expands to bar bin baz. you cannot put the baz earlier (bar baz bin) is impossible with an alias
[17:28] <Orphis> badday: Well, I've asked my question many times, it seems that nobody wants to help
[17:28] <IdleOne> anon_: did you source .bash_aliases after adding your alias
[17:29] <angelpossum> back!!!
[17:29] <badday> !patience | Orphis
[17:29] <telemaster000> Hey guys, I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my Dell Latitude D620, But I can't seem to get it to take up the whole screen. Help?
[17:29] <RickZilla> Kind of a dumb question, but I'm assuming cinnamon works in ubuntu pretty much the way it does in Linux Mint?
[17:29] <Orphis> badday: I've been asking for weeks
[17:30] <Orphis> Isn't that patient enough?
[17:30] <angelpossum> for what
[17:30] <MoL0ToV> howto remove the hidden panel that appears if you rollover the lower middle position of the screen?
[17:30] <MoL0ToV> (gnome3)
[17:30] <angelpossum> no clue
[17:30] <badday> Orphis: if you would be so kind to either try to supply a compact version of ur question or write in the forum; otherwise nobody can help u
[17:30] <anon_> IdleOne, it is sourced in .bashrc, and I also made it executable
[17:31] <IdleOne> anon_: no clue then, sorry.
[17:31] <Orphis> My integrated BT works just fine on Arch. It doesn't work on Ubutu. How to debug the issue?
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> Orphisif you were never helped, it simply means no one has the answer
[17:31] <thelodger> anyone know if there is a channel for discussing open source licences?
[17:32] <zykotick9> thelodger: #fsf maybe, for free licences
[17:33] <Transfusion> Orphis: what bluetooth chipset do you have? :)
[17:33] <badday> Orphis: Further information is required. Is it connected  via USB? What´s the name of the vendor/device number?
[17:33] <JoseeAntonioR> guys, when I use apache, it consumes memory, and for it to release the memory I have to restart the server, any ideas?
[17:33] <anon_> IdleOne, I forgot to start a new shell. Working now. Thx for your help.
[17:33] <almoxarife> Orphis: i would start with looking at /var/log/syslog
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> thelodger  try #defocus
[17:33] <IdleOne> anon_: welcome
[17:33] <Orphis> badday: Connected via USB, device ID 0b05 17b5
[17:33] <naxil> i need a rules.. of iptables for open both udp/tcp port 3071/3072 to 192.168.0.3
[17:33] <Transfusion> Orphis: the make and model
[17:34] <Orphis> Transfusion: BCM20702A0
[17:34] <IdleOne> JoseeAntonioR: perhaps #ubuntu-server if you don't get help in here
[17:34] <JoseeAntonioR> IdleOne: thanks
[17:34] <Transfusion> also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[17:34] <thelodger> zykotick9, MonkeyDust: cheers folks =)
[17:34] <Orphis> Transfusion: It works fine on Arch when adding the device id to /sys/bus/usb/drivers/btusb/new_id
[17:34] <Transfusion> bluez python-gobject python-dbus
[17:35] <Orphis> Transfusion: I've tried the same on Ubuntu, it finds the bt and "seems" to work, but it never finds any device
[17:35] <Orphis> Transfusion: On Precise, I was able to attach a keyboard (even though it disconnected immediatly), but now I don't even see it
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> Orphis  try blueman, it got my bluetooth to work
[17:36] <Bartzy> Hey, a bit OT question - Anyone has any recommendation for a good mechanical keyboard (for typing/programming, no gaming) ? :)
[17:36] <D-coy> hi m4v o7
[17:36] <jrib> !ot | Bartzy
[17:36] <pazzie> i am trying to install the restricted driver off the hardware manager...
[17:36] <IdleOne> Bartzy: ##hardware
[17:36] <pazzie> escott, no....
[17:36] <Orphis> MonkeyDust: I can't even see any device using hcitool scan
[17:37] <Transfusion> was about to suggest hcitool dev , but...
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> Orphis  maybe some other tool sees it
[17:37] <Transfusion> that's strange....
[17:37] <pazzie> VIVID, no, i was just doing what i was told here... since i am new to linux, i am a windows user
[17:37] <Orphis> Transfusion: hcitool dev list the device, hciconfig shows it and it looks fine
[17:37] <pbt> !code
[17:37] <Catbuntu> !ubottu
[17:38] <IdleOne> anon_: I may be mistaken but even though .bashrc points to .bash_aliases when you source .bashrc after making changes to .bash_aliases it is still seeing the old version of .bash_aliases. anyway you figured it out :).
[17:38] <Catbuntu> haha
[17:38] <Catbuntu> ubottu is lovely
[17:38] <almoxarife> !bash
[17:38] <rbnswartz> What is the correct prefix that I should use for compiling software I'm trying to fix a bug but can't seem to get my compiled version to replace the version that is already installed. Any help?
[17:39] <Transfusion> Orphis: did you try the BlueZ stack yet?
[17:39] <jrib> rbnswartz: be more specific
[17:39] <raven> hi
[17:39] <Orphis> Transfusion: Isn't it what is used when I run "hcitool scan" ?
[17:39] <raven> firefox: which plugin shows me the source of a flash video?
[17:39] <Tex_Nick> Catbuntu : please don't tease the bot ;)
[17:40] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  this is from a deb package ?
[17:40] <rbnswartz> jrib Trying to compile and modify polkit-gnome dialog but can't get the version that I have compiled and installed to replace the one already installed. I'm assuming it isn't being installed in the right place hence the prefix
[17:41] <Catbuntu> Tease?
[17:41] <jrib> rbnswartz: probably the best way is to make your modifications to the source package, build a new package, then install it
[17:41] <rbnswartz> bobweaver downloaded the source via apt-get source as I can't find a repo on launchpad.
[17:41] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  what is lang to compile ?
[17:41] <Catbuntu> I'm serious, its factoids system is very interesting
[17:41] <rbnswartz> bobweaver C
[17:41]  * Transfusion is clearly out of Transfusion's mind today, yea, hci is part of the bluez stack -_-
[17:42] <Transfusion> hmmm.
[17:42] <Orphis> Transfusion: It's ok ^^
[17:42] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  you did  dch -i  ,  and also mkdir <source>build   cd build  then compile ?  so that you can have clean area after build ?
[17:42] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  looking at source brb
[17:42] <rbnswartz> bobweaver no I did not
[17:43] <Orphis> Transfusion: I've check the syslog and there's no error message. Just bluetoothd saying it started scanning
[17:43] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  man dch
[17:43] <rbnswartz> bobweaver: the package that I'm using is policykit-1-gnome
[17:44] <VIVID> pazzie, i find it hard to believe someone here told you to manually install the drivers instead of using the ubuntu packages.  there must be more to that story
[17:44] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I was looking for that command yesteday thanks but couldn't find it. Thanks
[17:44] <almoxarife> VIVID: 'they' did
[17:45] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  bzr branch is located at    bzr branch http://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/policykit-1-gnome/ubuntu
[17:45] <VIVID> almoxarife, then 'they' should help him to get it working :p
[17:45] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  er this is autotools I hate autotools
[17:47] <Transfusion> Orphis: I'm baffled.
[17:48] <bobweaver> ok rbnswartz  what file or bug are you fixing ?
[17:48] <rbnswartz> bobweaver: there was a branch that was listed when I downloaded the source but it didn't contain any code that I could fine. I'll try this branch
[17:48] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  if you like I can walk you though
[17:48] <bobweaver> through *
[17:49] <rbnswartz> bobweaver: That would be wonderful. Let me find the but # for you
[17:49] <Orphis> Transfusion: Me too... :(
[17:51] <cocomo> hi, can i make the text cursor in gedit look like the text cursor in terminal?
[17:55] <mega1> i have server 10.04 and it wont connect to the internet i can ping every computer on the network i can even putty into it
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> mega1  dns issue, probably -- can you connect to an ip address ?
[17:57] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  ok to start out do you have all the info for gpg in ~/.bashrc ?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> mega1  can you ping 173.194.67.94 ?
[17:57] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  you are registed on lp and also uploaded keys and what not ? also
[17:57] <mega1> yes i can
[17:58] <raven> firefox: which plugin shows me the source of a flash video?
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> mega1  now ping www.google.be -- if you can't, then it's a dns issue
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> mega1  now ping www.google.com -- if you can't, then it's a dns issue
[17:58] <rbnswartz> bobweaver: been a little while since I've tried helping out on the project. Probably going to have to gen a new key
[17:58] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  if you open up terminal and enter in  gedit ~/.bashrc      then go to the end of the file right and add this make sure that you use your email that is used on lp and make sure hat there gpg is same
[17:59] <mega1> no it cannt ping google
[17:59] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,   export DEBFULLNAME="XXX XXXXX "
[17:59] <bobweaver> export DEBEMAIL="XXX@XXXX.com"
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> mega1  there you have it, dns does not trnaslate ip to an url
[17:59] <princej88> Hi, Has anyone had any luck getting forked-daapd to work  correctly in ubuntu server? I am having the issue where the  connection will timeout after 5 minutes.
[17:59] <princej88> I am running 12.04.1 LTS
[18:00] <princej88> thanks
[18:00] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  then run source ~/.bashrc
[18:00] <mega1> where i put in the dns server
[18:00] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  this will make it so that you do not need to put your name and email for all the stuff that you do saves time .
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> mega1  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dns.html
[18:02] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  let me know when you get that far :)
[18:02] <MrBushido> how do i remove a broken package that partially installed?
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> MrBushido  sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:02] <bobweaver> MrBushido,  dpkg -P <name >
[18:02] <rbnswartz> bobweaver: working on it
[18:02] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  take your time
[18:03] <yanick_> Hi, will HDMI sound be supported at some point with the open source ATI driver (for a Radio HD 3xxx card) ?
[18:03] <MrBushido> bobweaver: ty <3
[18:03] <yanick_> +n
[18:04] <blup1> hello
[18:05] <blup1> is it possible that lubuntu uses more energy than windows?
[18:05] <blup1> cause I use lubuntu and the battery just hold for 1 hour
[18:05] <blup1> but with windows 7 it holded 2 hours
[18:05] <rbnswartz> bobweaver ok got the bashrc all taken care of
[18:05] <rbnswartz> bobweaver working on key now
[18:06] <szal> holded?
[18:06] <bobweaver> Cool rbnswartz  let me know if you get stuck at all
[18:06] <tao> ever since i installed TorGuard i can't resolve dns anymore when not using VPN
[18:07] <tao> but ping still works
[18:07] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I've done this before. Just been a bit since I've done it and there was a rebuild in the time between and I don't think I saved my key.
[18:07] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  gpg --list-keys
[18:07] <InspectorCluseau> blup1, Are you using cpufreqd and cpufreq to control the cpu usage?
[18:07] <alisson> ola
[18:08] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  do *not*  paste that plz
[18:08] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I used the gui :) not quite that ninja yet
[18:08] <mega1> how do i list all running programs
[18:09] <bobweaver> mega1,  ps aux
[18:09] <bobweaver> mega1,  or use system monitor
[18:11] <blup1> I think not
[18:11] <blup1> I dont know what it is
[18:12] <blup1> if I install cpufreqd my laptop battery will provide enerygy for a longer time=?
[18:13] <InspectorCluseau> blup1, type this in a terminal window > watch -n .01 grep \"cpu MHz\" /proc/cpuinfo  That will show what your cpu is doing. If the cpu is regulated the speed will change as you do things.
[18:14] <InspectorCluseau> blup1,  no > with that
[18:15] <InspectorCluseau> blup1, my system regulates between 800 and 3500 mhz
[18:15] <blup1> ok
[18:15] <blup1> my always 933 mhz x 4 cores
[18:16] <Compaq_Owner> hello?
[18:16] <blup1> hi?
[18:16] <Compaq_Owner> i need help badly
[18:16] <bobweaver> blup1,  you are also using "htop"  to watch ?
[18:16] <bobweaver> Compaq_Owner,  ask away
[18:16] <blup1> i use the command you gave me, with lxterminal
[18:16] <InspectorCluseau> blup1, what is your system cpu speed advertised?
[18:16] <ubuntulover> !ask | Compaq_Owner
[18:17] <Compaq_Owner> Ok well its a big question lol so hold on
[18:17] <bobweaver> !pastebin | Compaq_Owner
[18:17] <blup1> 2,4mhz i3 processor
[18:17] <blup1> intel core
[18:17] <Compaq_Owner> OK THNX
[18:17] <blup1> I am not sure if its quad core, but it shows so in the terminal
[18:17] <bobweaver> yw
[18:17] <InspectorCluseau> blup1, then the system is regulating to 933 for the best pwer
[18:18] <InspectorCluseau> blup1, it probably goes up under a hight load condition
[18:18] <Katbuntu> sorry for telling login to ubottu, wrong window
[18:18] <rbnswartz> bobweaver ok got the pgp key uploaded and authenticated to launchpad
[18:19] <blup1> ubottu
[18:19] <blup1> ubottu ?
[18:19] <rbnswartz> bobweaver had to get some additional software installed such as enigmail and the like
[18:19] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  great so lets make a sandbox area to build in  maybe on Desktop  so     mkdir -p ~/Desktop/build-area
[18:20] <rbnswartz> bobwaver already have one
[18:20] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  then cd ~/Desktop/build-area  then use     use apt-get source <name of package>
[18:20] <bobweaver> apt-get source <name of package >  *
[18:21] <rbnswartz> got it
[18:21] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  then    cd policykit-1-gnome-0.105
[18:21] <rbnswartz> bobweaver got it
[18:21] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  then make your changes to the file that you want to change
[18:21] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  what is file that you are altering ?
[18:22] <rbnswartz> polkitgnomeauthenticationdialog.c
[18:22] <Compaq_Owner> once i typed my question wat do i do?
[18:23] <Compaq_Owner> paste.ubuntu.com/1402654/
[18:23] <Compaq_Owner> I have an aspire one D270-1865 which came with windows 7, and I wanted to get rid of it and replace it with ubuntu. So, I followed the instructions to create a bootable usb with the ubuntu iso and booted it on the system. Everything went fine, and it said the installation was successful and for me to reboot. So I did and nothing happened, no windows or ubuntu. I booted the usb again to try...
[18:23] <Compaq_Owner> ...and reinstall ubuntu but again nothing appeared. So I got out my old desktop and formatted the usb and put dban on it. Then wiped my useless system. Once it was wiped I formatted the usb again and recreated the ubuntu iso on it, and loaded it back onto the wiped PC, but only text appeared.
[18:23] <BLZbubba> mayday, when i log in compiz immediately goes to 100% cpu.  is there a way to tell what is causing it?  i can do the trial and error and disable as many compiz settings as possible, but i was wondering if there is a way to tell exactly what it is trying to do
[18:23] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  after alter could you plz pastebin  the changes thanks ?
[18:24] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  maybe tell me the line # also that would help
[18:26] <bobweaver> BLZbubba,  you can run debuging on compiz  with  compiz --debug
[18:26] <bobweaver> BLZbubba,  you can see help options     compiz --help
[18:27] <rbnswartz> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402665/ and the changes are to some strings from 671 to 686
[18:27] <bobweaver> BLZbubba,  you can also run valgrind on compiz (I think )
[18:27] <bobweaver> cool rbnswartz  looking now
[18:27] <haylo> i want to make my web-server so i can wget some files from it. Do i need any special programs other than apache server for this ?
[18:28] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I'm not much of a C programmer but anyone can find and edit strings
[18:28] <jrib> haylo: nope
[18:28] <rbnswartz> bobweaver surprised nobody has looked at this yet
[18:28] <haylo> jrib: just link to them from index.html ?
[18:28] <Sornaensis> compiz
[18:28] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  cool now that you have made the changes lets move back to are <source dir >
[18:29] <jrib> haylo: if that's what you want
[18:29] <rbnswartz> bobweaver done
[18:29] <elstud> compaq  owner do you have a AMD board
[18:29] <haylo> jrib: thank you  :P
[18:29] <Compaq_Owner> intel
[18:29] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  now lets us tell the world that you made these changes
[18:29] <jrib> haylo: you can also just not have an index.html and tell apache to list the files in there (which I think it does by default when there is no index.html)
[18:29] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  run      dch -i
[18:29] <Compaq_Owner> intel aton n2600
[18:30] <elstud> compaq what will start when you reboot
[18:30] <ubuntulover> Compaq_Owner, what text appeared
[18:30] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  this will bring up a debian contol file this is where we must add are changes
[18:30] <bobweaver> so if you like rbnswartz  please pastebin what you got
[18:30] <Compaq_Owner> i forgot...but it started with linux and it had a copyright thingy..it was only one line
[18:31] <Compaq_Owner> wait hold on
[18:31] <rbnswartz> bobweaver as far as the changelog or the entry that I'm going to enter?
[18:31] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  if you are using nano to copy things in terminal  is ctrl+shift+c
[18:31] <mega1> in unbuntu server how do i change a users password
[18:31] <haylo> thanks so much jrib :)
[18:31] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  Correct
[18:31] <haylo> i got it ! :)
[18:31] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  I just want to look over to make sure that you have all the right things in it :)
[18:32] <Compaq_Owner> SYSLINUX 4.02 2010-10-22 EDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al
[18:32] <rbnswartz> bobweaver what exactly should be in it besides a description of a change?
[18:32] <ubuntulover> Compaq_Owner, and how did you create the bootable USB ?
[18:32] <escott> mega1, sudo passwd username
[18:33] <Compaq_Owner> unetbootin
[18:33] <Compaq_Owner> and lili usb creator
[18:33] <Compaq_Owner> i tryed it several timesa
[18:33] <Compaq_Owner> they both had same result
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Or did you let unetbootin pull down the ISO for you?
[18:33] <Compaq_Owner> MD5 test?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: yes
[18:33] <Compaq_Owner> i just selected it in unetbootin
[18:34] <Compaq_Owner> it is in my downloads file
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> Compaq_Owner  that's not the good way, download the iso to your harddisk
[18:34] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  you should be adding the bug number like (LP:#) also make sure that changes are like    src/file.c: did this on lines x-z    make sure that it is not more then 80 charecters. also make sure that codename is right for version that you are changeing like where it says  (0.105-1ubuntu5) UNRELEASED       that should be    (0.105-1ubuntu5) raring
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: so you let unetbootin download the ISO for you, or did you manually download the ISO yourself?
[18:34] <Compaq_Owner> how?
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> Compaq_Owner  i mean from ubuntu.com
[18:35] <Compaq_Owner> i manuelly downloaded it
[18:35] <Compaq_Owner> yeh from ubuntu
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Compaq_Owner
[18:35] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  I will pastebin a example
[18:35] <Compaq_Owner> shit i gotta go :/ ill be bak tho
[18:35] <rbnswartz> bobweaver had something written up but I'll change it to that format
[18:37] <Noskcaj> how do you restart compiz
[18:37] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  Example :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402692/
[18:37] <bobweaver> Noskcaj,  compiz --replace
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Noskcaj: press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[18:37] <Noskcaj> thanks
[18:37] <Noskcaj> i wont open for me
[18:37] <cjae> how do you make applications launch of screen of your choice, namely the primary screen
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Noskcaj: if you don't have 3D acceleration, it won't run
[18:38] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  make sure that you pastebin up that control file and let me see it plz.  just to make easy   you can put XX for emails and name
[18:39] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  just like I did on my example
[18:40] <rbnswartz> bobweaver: Is there a recommended line size for these changelogs or do people just deal with it?
[18:40] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  you can *not* have mre then 80
[18:40] <bobweaver> more *
[18:41] <cjae> how do you make applications launch of screen of your choice, namely the primary screen from commandline
[18:41] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  if you have more then 80 charecters then you can make a new line     two spaces then a * and write away :)
[18:41] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  or like this I will make a eaxample
[18:42] <bobweaver> rbnswartz, you will see that we will be running tests to see if things are funny at the end :)
[18:42] <prashant_123456> how to completely uninstall xubuntu ?
[18:43] <bazhang> http://superuser.com/questions/232042/ubuntu-gnome-open-an-application-in-a-specific-workspace   cjae
[18:43] <bazhang> prashant_123456, and leave what
[18:43] <Noskcaj> my launcher and top bar are still gone, how do i fix this
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: how do you mean? Did you install xfce on top of ubuntu?
[18:43] <rbnswartz> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402701/ how does this look?
[18:43] <bazhang> !puregnome | prashant_123456
[18:44] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  thansk looking \
[18:44] <bobweaver> thanks *
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: or do you mean completely remove Ubuntu all together and install another OS
[18:44] <Compaq_Owner> wait didnt leave yet...i just MD5d my iso and it didnt match...so?
[18:44] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  this part * src/polkitgnomeauthenticationdialog.c      should have a : at the end of it like     * src/polkitgnomeauthenticationdialog.c :
[18:45] <Noskcaj> all my unity features are gone, help
[18:45] <bobweaver> to say that that is the file altered
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: it needs redownloading, the file is corrupted
[18:45] <Noskcaj> no top bar or launcher
[18:45] <bobweaver> also 80 charecters perline
[18:45] <Compaq_Owner> ok thnx
[18:45] <Compaq_Owner> weres best link to download?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: any, as long at the file passes MD5 then the source is irrelevant
[18:45] <cjae> bazhang: thanks thats workspace thou
[18:45] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  you should also add what you edited like "changed 'this' to 'that'  "
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: there is no 'best'
[18:46] <Compaq_Owner> ok
[18:46] <bazhang> Noskcaj, have you enabled some more plugins in ccsm of late
[18:46] <Noskcaj> no
[18:46] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  that is just for the next person so that they know
[18:46] <bazhang> cjae, what did you mean then, if not workspace
[18:46] <Noskcaj> i turned my computer on
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Noskcaj: if you run:   ps -ef | grep unity-panel-service     is it running?
[18:46] <gandsnut> If after installing 12.10 I get repeated failures to authenticate local wi-fi, should I try installing windows drivers for the USB wireless dongle?
[18:46] <bazhang> Noskcaj, following what did this start happening
[18:46] <Compaq_Owner> were do i save iso to?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: anywhere, it doesn't matter
[18:47] <Compaq_Owner> how come the iso downloads at lower speed than other downloads?
[18:47] <Noskcaj> bazhag: i turned the computer on, tryed restarting many times then launched xchat through terminal
[18:47] <Compaq_Owner> my regular downloads download at around 300kb/s
[18:47] <cjae> bazhang: screen as in monitor
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: slower upload from the source
[18:47] <Compaq_Owner> iso is at 50kb/s
[18:48] <Noskcaj> action: jackson   2513  2303  0 05:46 pts/1    00:00:00 grep --color=auto unity-panel-service
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: you could use torrents
[18:48] <Noskcaj> was the output
[18:48] <Compaq_Owner> how?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Noskcaj: use TAB to complete nicks
[18:48] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402713/
[18:48] <Noskcaj> ok
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: are you new to the web?
[18:48] <cjae> bazhang: eg I keep having apps open on the wrong monitor
[18:48] <bazhang> !torrents | Compaq_Owner
[18:48] <Compaq_Owner> lol no...just not familiar with torrents
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Noskcaj: press ALT+F2 and run: /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: do you want 32bit or 64bit ubuntu?
[18:49] <Noskcaj> ant+f2 doesn't work
[18:49] <Compaq_Owner> does it matter which?
[18:49] <bazhang> cjae, I understand, let me have a search of the forums
[18:49] <Compaq_Owner> woooo my download is done already lol
[18:49] <Compaq_Owner> shit now i actually gotta go...ill be bak latr thanx for all help
[18:49] <rbnswartz> bobweaver how does this look http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402718/
[18:49] <bazhang> Compaq_Owner, no cursing here
[18:49] <Noskcaj> ActionParsnip: i ran it in terminal and everything failed
[18:49] <bobweaver> thanks rbnswartz  looking now
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Noskcaj: the terminal output may explain why it's not running
[18:50] <bobweaver> rbnswartz, that looks GREAT !
[18:50] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  save it
[18:50] <Noskcaj> (unity-panel-service:2514): libindicator-WARNING **: IndicatorObject class does not have an accessible description.
[18:50] <Noskcaj> (unity-panel-service:2514): libindicator-WARNING **: IndicatorObject class does not have an accessible description.
[18:50] <Noskcaj> (unity-panel-service:2514): libindicator-WARNING **: IndicatorObject class does not have an accessible description.
[18:50] <Noskcaj> (unity-panel-service:2514): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-CRITICAL **: dbusmenu_client_get_root: assertion `DBUSMENU_IS_CLIENT(client)' failed
[18:50] <FloodBot1> Noskcaj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:50] <Noskcaj> (unity-panel-service:2514): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-CRITICAL **: dbusmenu_menuitem_get_children: assertion `DBUSMENU_IS_MENUITEM(mi)' failed
[18:50] <ccc> I stabbed my finger trying to make a soda can stirling engine
[18:50] <RickZilla> This is more of a theoretical question, but how long can we expect to use a given distro version without upgrading?
[18:51] <bazhang> ccc wrong channel
[18:51] <gandsnut> Is there an IRC channel for ubuntu wireless networking?
[18:51] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  then go back to source or top dir
[18:51] <bazhang> RickZilla, 18 months regular releases, 5 years starting with 12.04 LTS
[18:51] <bazhang> !lts | RickZilla
[18:51] <rbnswartz> bobweaver there
[18:52] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  I would like to tell you that there is a couple of options for dch  like dch -a  Adds too control    dch -e  is for editing
[18:52] <RickZilla> So I just installed 12.10, it will go until April 2014? I can probably live with that
[18:52] <Noskcaj> sorry for the big post ActionParsnip
[18:52] <Noskcaj> RickZilla, upgrading pretty easy as well
[18:52] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  now because Launchad already has a source tar ball we DO NOT need to upload that with are fix :)
[18:53] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  so in top dir run          debuild -S
[18:53] <RickZilla> Noskcaj: k, I'll have to look into that...I don't mind installing and configuring stuff, I just don't want to have to do it all the time
[18:54] <blno> hello. I'm making a rsync alias to copy a folder to a backup, and it seem to work. I use the options -rli. My problem is that every time I run it (even if there's no change), it outputs some changes (always the same). It says >f..T...... filename for a bunch of files.
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> Noskcaj: ok, use that to see what that means online, or look for bugs
[18:54] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  as you will see this will compile and make everything that we need inorder to push it to LP . :) it will also run Lintian ! Lintian is great . It is also going to ask for your gpg and this is how we know that it was you that is making these changes :)
[18:54] <marianne> Success! went from 10.04 to 12.04... didn't have to reload drivers for the Nvidia card either!
[18:55] <soundconjurer> Has anyone successfully Dual Booted Ubuntu 12.04 with Windows 8?
[18:55] <bobweaver> Sweet Deals marianne
[18:55] <Noskcaj> ActionParsnip, ok
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> !yay| marianne
[18:55] <Steph__> I just installed ubuntu 12.10 and it outputs to the monitor fine, I connect to to my TV using hdmi and no output - any ideas?
[18:56] <rbnswartz> bobweaver build failed got this output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402740/ I assume I have a patch to apply?
[18:56] <trism> blno: to a fat filesystem? if so you might need --modify-window=1 as an additional rsync option
[18:57] <blno> trism: no, it's ntfs
[18:57] <escott> Steph__, does the tv show up in displays when the hdmi is plugged in
[18:57] <trism> blno: ahh, then I don't know, sorry
[18:57] <Steph__> no it doesn't
[18:57] <bobweaver> Correct rbnswartz
[18:57] <blno> trism: thanks anyway
[18:57] <bobweaver> wait NO
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Steph__: what video chip do you use?
[18:57] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  pastebin full  debian/control
[18:57] <Steph__> whatever is built into our motherboard intel dh67cf
[18:58] <soundconjurer> Has anyone successfully installed Ubuntu 12.04 with Windows 8 with the UEFI successfully?
[18:58] <bazhang> http://infectionsandmore.blogspot.tw/2012/04/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu-1204-my.html soundconjurer
[18:59] <rbnswartz> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402748/ will this tell me where the patch is located?
[18:59] <bobweaver> thanks no looking at version numbers . One should never add quilt(patch) if it is not there to start out with
[18:59] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, yes i have installed xfce on top of ubuntu 12.04
[19:00] <bazhang> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/10/11/dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-on-a-pc-with-uefi-hardware/ soundconjurer should be similar to windows 8
[19:00] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  also looking at debian dir myself brb
[19:00] <escott> soundconjurer, im sure someone has. if you want to ask a specific question we might be able to help
[19:00] <bazhang> prashant_123456, so follow the puregnome link I gave
[19:00] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  how about . debian/changlog
[19:00] <bobweaver> thansk
[19:00] <bobweaver> thanks *
[19:01] <soundconjurer> I am just looking for a procedure...
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: then run:   sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep xfce | awk {'print $2'}`; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[19:01] <bazhang> soundconjurer, I just gave you a link
[19:01] <soundconjurer> I am reading it
[19:01] <soundconjurer> Thanks
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+uefi   top link....
[19:01] <rbnswartz> bobweaver past that?
[19:01] <rbnswartz> *Paste that?
[19:01] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, ok sir
[19:02] <blno> ok, copying the modification date did the trick. I didn't want to do it because windows software doesn't, but I guess it works.
[19:02] <bobweaver> rbnswartz see pm
[19:02] <rbnswartz> bobweaver http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402755/
[19:02] <bobweaver> thanks
[19:03] <marianne> my biggest problem was finding an empty CD-R to load the iso to... but I'm stoked (boyfriend thinks I'm nuts!)
[19:03] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  add the patch     make sure in top source dir and run     dpkg-source --commit
[19:04] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, and also how to remove lxde please
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> marianne: nothing wrong with being happy and excited. Wallow in it :)
[19:04] <bobweaver> !pureubuntu
[19:04] <gandsnut> What's the root password for a fresh install of 12.10?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: sudo apt-get --purge remove lxde lxpanel; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[19:04] <bobweaver> !root | gandsnut
[19:04] <bazhang> gandsnut, there is none
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> gandsnut: there isn't one
[19:04] <rbnswartz> bobweaver: Any guidelines for the patch name?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> gandsnut: if you want a root terminal, run:  sudo -i
[19:05] <marianne> ActionParsnip: thanks... knew you guys would understand! also means I can put off buying a new laptop for at least another year...or more!
[19:05] <bobweaver> yeah there is a ton make it like the change og
[19:05] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  ^^
[19:05] <gandsnut> Thx
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> marianne: never a bad thing, people don't have so much money these days
[19:05] <bobweaver> log *  please paste (boy I hate quilt )
[19:06] <rbnswartz> bobweaver so pretty much copy and paste my entry from the changelog?
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> gandsnut: if you need to run commands with root access, prefix the command with 'sudo', if it is a GUI app like gedit, use 'gksudo'
[19:06] <bobweaver> yup
[19:06] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  let me see what you got before saving
[19:07] <Steph__> should i assume that 12.10 won't work with the intel dh67cf motherboard? that's why the hdmi won't work?
[19:07] <rbnswartz> bobweaver http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402765/ I'm going to enter it exactly like that
[19:07] <gandsnut> Trying 'su' in an xterm asks for a password.
[19:08] <gandsnut> If there is no password, why is it asking?
[19:08] <bazhang> gandsnut, dont use that
[19:08] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  take out the LP bug part
[19:08] <escott> gandsnut, because you used the wrong command. never use su on ubuntu
[19:08] <bazhang> gandsnut, please listen to what we just told you
[19:08] <mega1> is it possable to clear command history for a user
[19:08] <gandsnut> bazhang:  how might I access /var/log/messages w/o root permission?
[19:08] <bobweaver> history --clear
[19:08] <bobweaver> ??
[19:08] <bobweaver> history --help
[19:09] <rbnswartz> bobweaver http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402767/ better?
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> gandsnut: no, as there is no password
[19:09] <bobweaver> yes rbnswartz
[19:09] <mega1> is it possable to change the name of the server
[19:09] <escott> !hostname | mega1
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> gandsnut: the account is disabled for a whole bunch of reasons. You can still su to other accounts
[19:09] <rbnswartz> bobweaver ok so committing that now
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> gandsnut: your user can read the dmesg, it doesn't need root access
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> gandsnut: there also isn't a  /var/log/messages  in Ubuntu
[19:11] <bobweaver> cool rbnswartz  then you can run  debuild -S   again
[19:11] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, lxde is still there no changes
[19:12] <gandsnut> Sorry, referring to dmesg
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> gandsnut: run:  dmesg | less
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> gandsnut: users can read dmesg, no need for root
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: try:      dpkg -l | grep lxde    do you get any output?
[19:13] <gandsnut> Trying to troubleshoot why both TrendNet and Belkin USB wireless dongles will not authenticate on local wi-fi
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> gandsnut: what wifi chip do they use?
[19:13] <gandsnut> Looks like the TrendNet uses RTL8187 or some such
[19:13] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, yes i get output
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> gandsnut: if they are usb, run:   lsusb   and search for the 8 character hex ID for the device
[19:14] <macarnold> I want to resize my partitions without reinstalling. I have root, swap, and home, that order on hard drive. I want to increase size of root and swap. Would it be alright to delete home, then expand root and swap, and re-create home with saved data?
[19:14] <gandsnut> ActionParsnip:  thx, will do immed
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: then run:    sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep lxde | awk {'print $2'}`
[19:14] <escott> macarnold, sure. you would have to update the uuid in fstab
[19:14] <rbnswartz> bobweaver ok I got a text editor open on command completetion I assume I must describe my patch again?
[19:14] <escott> !uuid | macarnold
[19:15] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, ok
[19:15] <bobweaver> !screenshot | rbnswartz  could you please take a screen shot ?
[19:15] <gandsnut> actionParsnip:  RTL8187B
[19:15] <gandsnut> ActionParsnip, sorry, hex
[19:15] <morfeo_81> hi there
[19:15] <escott> macarnold, another difficulty you will encounter is that the livecd will automatically swapon the swap partition. so you have to swapoff the swap partition delete the home and swap. grow root, add a new swap, add a new home
[19:15] <macarnold> escott, yeah, I was wondering about issues with uuid. So is is essentially a matter of having the right uuid's in fstab? If so, then I could do this with a live gparted cd?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> gandsnut: tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RealtekRTL8187b
[19:16] <escott> macarnold, yes. you can (and must) do it all from the livecd
[19:16] <morfeo_81> How can create a hot spot for IPAD using ubuntu. If use create new wireless  and shared connection I'm not able to connect
[19:16] <gandsnut> ActionParsnip:  obda:8189, will check your link
[19:16] <rbnswartz> bobweaver http://imagebin.org/237834
[19:16] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, ok done with it one more thing how to uninstall openbox and gnome/openbox ?
[19:17] <bobweaver> thanks rbnswartz
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: thats the first thing that comes up when I search the web.....
[19:17] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I have a feeling I put the wrong thing in the wrong placed
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: sorry, wrong target
[19:17] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, can u explain please
[19:17] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, ok
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> gandsnut: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=RTL8187B+ubuntu    its the top link....you seriously telling me you haven't seen that link.......
[19:18] <escott> macarnold, too complete the high level instructions. after adding home and copying data back, you update fstab, then chroot in and update-initramfs (to get the fstab into the initram image -- you might be able to skip this step, but i would just go ahead and do it)
[19:18] <Steph__> how can i get ubuntu to see the video chip that is built into the motherboard?
[19:18] <escott> !ics | morfeo_81
[19:18] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  you might have that is ok this is why I hate quilt but just do what this file is asking for and change it
[19:18] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, any help
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: what is the output of:    ls /usr/share/xsessions
[19:18] <escott> Steph__, in what sense is it not seeing it? is this a laptop?
[19:19] <Steph__> desktop
[19:19] <Steph__> i can output to a montior, but i can't output to the tv using hdmi
[19:19] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, gnome-classic.desktop   openbox.desktop        ubuntu.desktop
[19:19] <prashant_123456> gnome.desktop           openbox-gnome.desktop  xubuntu.desktop
[19:19] <prashant_123456> gnome-fallback.desktop  openbox-kde.desktop
[19:19] <prashant_123456> gnome-shell.desktop     ubuntu-2d.desktop
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: what is the output of:   dpkg -S openbox-gnome.desktop
[19:19] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I'm just going to remove that long paragraph at the top and just leave the part from the changelog
[19:20] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  the thing is I would not think that you would need a quilt patch for what you are doing but I hate quilt and will never understand it
[19:20] <bobweaver> rbnswartz, cool
[19:20] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, dpkg -S openbox-gnome.desktop
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: give it time
[19:20] <Steph__> escott, it's a desktop - i can output to a montior, but i can't output to the tv using hdmi
[19:21] <sudonano> hi, desktop ubuntu 12.04 64 bit with unity...rear microphone jack works but not the same thing for the jack on front panel: I've already checked volume setting on alsamixer and pavucontrol. both the jacks are connected to the analogic audio chipset integrated in the MB (there's also hd audio on ati hd4830, but alsamixer show correctly only S/PDIF connection). Any idea? (on my previous 11.04 installation front microphone was fu
[19:21] <escott> Steph__, and why do you say "ubuntu can't see the video chip" that is a very specific statement
[19:21] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, openbox: /usr/share/xsessions/openbox-gnome.desktop
[19:21] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, yes it is the output
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: sudo apt-get --purge remove openbox
[19:22] <rbnswartz> bobweaver This look good http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402807/?
[19:22] <rbnswartz>  bobweaver This look good http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402807/ ?
[19:22] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, and what about other desktop environments please
[19:22] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  at any rate we are just going to make you a diff patch in the end I just wanted to show you how to use debuils
[19:22] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  looks great !
[19:22] <rbnswartz> bobweaver: now I do the debuild -S again?
[19:23] <bobweaver> yup
[19:23] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, openbox-kde.desktop
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: use the dpkg -S command again with the other files :)
[19:23] <morfeo_81> I'm scarry about to do great error with iptable.HOw can use ppo connection and create hot spot for ipad?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Steph__: what is the output of:   sudo lshw -C display
[19:23] <bazhang> morfeo_81, read the ics link ?
[19:23] <morfeo_81> !ics
[19:24] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  well that is going on open other terminal or new tab and cd ~/Desktop/build-area  or where ever that is and mkdir diffs
[19:24] <rbnswartz> bobweaver ok so I guess I need to give gpg my secret key. I used the gui in order to create it would that cause any problems?
 Yes but the problem I don't understand because I have a ip and how can change
[19:25] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, app-install-data: /usr/share/app-install/desktop/openbox:openbox.desktop
[19:25] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  not sure that is a big question just use our password that you signed you gpg keys with
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: then you know what to remove
[19:26] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  the password is to make sure that it is you . that is how debian based distros know that the people that are altering packages are the people that they claim to be :)
[19:26] <bobweaver> when packaging that is
[19:26] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, when i run dpkg -S openbox-kde.desktop it gives error
[19:26] <rbnswartz> bobweaver  it doesn't give me a chance to this is what I get. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402815/
[19:27] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  again I wanted to just *SHOW* you how debuils works
[19:27] <gandsnut> Can't seem to get out of entering passphrase and "Authentication required for wireless network"
[19:27] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern *openbox-kde.desktop*.
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: try:   sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[19:27] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,   open other terminal or new tab and cd ~/Desktop/build-area  or where ever that is and mkdir diffs
[19:27] <rbnswartz> bobweaver ok done
[19:28] <rbnswartz> bobweaver and then copy the patch?
[19:28] <Steph__> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402817/
[19:28] <bobweaver> go to where src/polkitgnomeauthenticationdialog.c  is
[19:28] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  ^^
[19:28] <escott> Steph__, .... so it can see the card? Why are you saying it cannot?
[19:28] <rbnswartz> bobweaver got it
[19:28] <bobweaver> rbnswartz, then     cp  polkitgnomeauthenticationdialog.c  ../../diffs/altered.c
[19:29] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  make sure that it goes to the right dir :)
[19:29] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, we recently uninstalled xubuntu from system but still at the login prompt i can see xubuntu login but when trying to login not able to login and i want to completely remove xubuntu from the login screen
[19:29] <morfeo_81> I don't understand because I have a ip and how can change it ?
[19:29] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  then go back to  <buildarea>  and mkdir temp
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: could just delete the session file :)
[19:30] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, how to do it
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: sudo rm /usr/share/xsessions/openbox-kde.desktop       ...not obvious?
[19:31] <escott> morfeo_81, thats not even a well formed question. networking is complex. you need to read the documentation and if you have questions about what the documentation is telling you then ask specific questions
[19:31] <rbnswartz> bobweaver the build dir should be outside of the source tree correct?
[19:31] <babalu> Hi everybody I can't get flash images on ubuntu 12
[19:31] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, ok got it sir
[19:32] <Steph__> escott, my mistake.  I couldn't see the chip in the sea of code. I am trying to update/reinstall the driver in case that is the reason nothing happens when I plug a display into the HDMI port
[19:32] <Compaq_Owner> hey so i downloaded that iso torrent, now wat?
[19:32] <prashant_123456> what is the logout command in linux
[19:32] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  ~/Desktop/build-area/  should now have dirs for       diff,temp, and all the other stuff from build
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Compaq_Owner
[19:32] <escott> Steph__, ill go back to question from 15minutes ago. does the TV not show up in displays when the hdmi is plugged in and the tv on
[19:33] <HTC-DZ> guys, how do i check how much disk space openarena <the game> is using? i cant find its installed folder
[19:33] <rbnswartz> bobweaver in that case I got it
[19:33] <escott> prashant_123456, exit on terminal. gnome-session-logout in gui
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> !info openarena
[19:33] <Compaq_Owner> thr different again...
[19:33] <escott> prashant_123456, rather gnome-session-quit
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> !info openarena-data
[19:33] <prashant_123456> escott, ok i will try it
[19:33] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  then cd temp (the dir you just made )   and grab a fresh copy of policykit-1-gnome  (apt-get source policykit-1-gnome )   then *FROM the FRESH*  cd src/  and cp polkitgnomeauthenticationdialog.c  ../../diffs/*
[19:34] <Compaq_Owner> wats the link to the iso torrents?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> HTC-DZ: 45Mb + 5Mb = 50Mb
[19:34] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, and escott thanks for the help
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> !torrents
[19:34] <bobweaver> sorry no * at the end rbnswartz
[19:34] <bobweaver> so
[19:34] <babalu> could u please help me for flash appropriate to ubuntu, I can't watch videos...
[19:34] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  then cd temp (the dir you just made )   and grab a fresh copy of policykit-1-gnome  (apt-get source policykit-1-gnome )   then *FROM the FRESH*  cd src/  and cp polkitgnomeauthenticationdialog.c  ../../diffs/
[19:34] <Compaq_Owner> thnx
[19:34] <bobweaver> rbnswartz, ^^ is corrct
[19:34] <Steph__> escott, no it does not. It does not show up on the list of available displays from the display setting when it is connected. The TV was on.
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: why do you need the torrent if its finished downloading?
[19:34] <mega1> when i logon to the srver it has mega1@tech:~$ i want to change the tech
[19:35] <Compaq_Owner> cuz the MD5 didnt match again
[19:35] <HTC-DZ> action, where do i use that !info command? and i went to multiplayer and it downloaded a crap load of mods. thats why i wanna see how much space its eating up
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> babalu: can you pastebin the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | egrep'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[19:35] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  know  cd ../../diffs/   and ls  there should be two files in there correct ?  the altered.c and the new one or unaltered one correct ?
[19:35] <bobweaver> now *
[19:35] <Compaq_Owner> it STILL doesnt match???
[19:35] <rbnswartz> bobweaver yes that is correct
[19:35] <zykotick9> HTC-DZ: for downloaded content, check your home directory somewhere...
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: what is the hash you calculated?
[19:36] <Compaq_Owner> 6c37b6b39d1c57385ce90aeb22a688e1
[19:36] <babalu> ok
[19:36] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, still having xubuntu session at login prompt
[19:36] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, how to remove it
[19:36] <rbnswartz> bobweaver ok I have a patch generated
[19:36] <babalu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402840/
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: looks fine to me
[19:36] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  theres a xubuntu.desktop file the defines what sessions are shown by the *DM managers
[19:37] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  diff -u altered.c polkitgnomeauthenticationdialog.c > fix .patch
[19:37] <rbnswartz> bobweaver unless there was a diffrent usage of diff that I should have used
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> HTC-DZ: check in /usr/share/games     or in $HOME somewhere
[19:37] <Compaq_Owner> wen i put it in winMs5sum it says
[19:37] <Compaq_Owner> MD5 Check Sums are different
[19:37] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  go to launchpad page and upload that patch file as a attachment to the bug and you are done.
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> babalu: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> babalu: I missed a space, sorry
[19:38] <rbnswartz> bobweaver redid the patch using the -u option
[19:38] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  sorry about the debuild stuff just wanted to show you .
[19:38] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I understand
[19:38] <babalu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402848/
[19:39] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I really appreciate it didn't know what all of those tools did.
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> babalu: wat browser(s) do you use?
[19:39] <babalu> firefox but with cromium same I can't watch videos
[19:39] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  I hate quilt and will never understand it. I know why it is there. I am not sure as to why you gpg key is not working nor why it wanted a patch as version number changes should not ask for patch  Oo maybe ActionParsnip  can add to this he has moi moi karma on LP
[19:40] <escott> !hostname | mega1 please read this
[19:40] <bobweaver> maybe you made different tar ? not sure.
[19:40] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, ok now removed
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: whats the issue?
[19:40] <prashant_123456> gnome-session-quit error ** (gnome-session-quit:4583): WARNING **: Failed to call logout: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[19:41] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  other way to do what you just did. is to bzr branch  <branch>      alter the branch  and just re-upload
[19:41] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  package wanted to creat quilt patch even though version number was changed in changelog with dch -i
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: never played with that dude, sorry
[19:42] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  I was trying to show rbnswartz  how to use debuild :/
[19:42] <HTC-DZ> no luck. :( any idea where any downloaded apps get installed to by default from the ubuntu software center?
[19:42] <trism> bobweaver: what's the error?
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> HTC-DZ  in /usr/bin/
[19:42] <prashant_123456> cant logout using command gnome-session-logout
[19:42] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:   the files for a packge go to whatever system dirs they need.. it depends on whats in the package.
[19:43] <babalu> on firefox I put an addon for flash but still doesn't work or I don't know which one is best for this old pc
[19:43] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  the binaries normally go to the verions 'bin' dirs
[19:43] <bobweaver> hey there Awesome sause other wise know as trism  it was dpkg source error on build let me find paste
[19:43] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  you can use the package manager tools to see exactly what files are in a package and where they get installed to
[19:43] <bobweaver> awesome formerly know as trism,   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402740/
[19:44] <bobweaver> version # was changed in d/changelog so not sure why it would need a quilt patch Oo  << trism
[19:44] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I added a comment to the bug. Thanks a bunch.
[19:44] <trism> bobweaver: oh, dpkg-source --commit; should take care of creating the patch, or otherwise if the patch is already on top, just: quilt refresh;
[19:45] <bobweaver> trism,  thanks I can and never will understand quilt
[19:45] <bobweaver> :)
[19:45] <trism> bobweaver: takes some getting used to
[19:45] <mega1> how do i view all the hd on my server
[19:46] <bobweaver> trism,  also watch files and the regex that goes into them
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> mega1  df -h
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> mega1: sudo fdisk -l
[19:46] <bobweaver> trism,  like when get upstreamers are not using versioning # in there tar' s
[19:46] <escott> mega1, sudo cat /dev/sd*;
[19:46] <trism> bobweaver: never touch those myself either
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> mega1  correction: try du -sh
[19:47] <dr_willis> mega1:  how aboyt you clarify what you mean...
[19:47] <[4-tea-2]> Can anyone give me a hint how Ubuntu w/ Gnome asks for SSH keys? I'm loading a bunch of keys with ssh-add, yet Ubuntu/Gnome/whoever will still ask me to enter the passphrase for one of they keys that has already been loaded (upon the first SSH connection).
[19:47] <babalu> ActionParnsnip could u please suggest me something to do?
[19:48] <[4-tea-2]> I'd like a way to disable ^ that.
[19:48] <mooriane> babalu: jerk off
[19:48] <escott> dr_willis, taking all the fun out of trying to interpret his question
[19:48] <dr_willis> escott:  ;)
[19:48] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  you have read Ubuntu packaging guide and also debian new maintainers guide ?
[19:48] <HTC-DZ> oh :D i found something quite cool. the app "disk usuage analyzer" did the trick :) open that app, scan home folder, it shows you exactly how much space each app is taking. click on the app, and it actually takes you to the installed folder directory. :) pretty cool stuff.
[19:48] <babalu> mooriane jerk urself first
[19:48] <bazhang> babalu, he's gone, move on
[19:49] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  its just showing folders.. ;) the fact theres an app in one.. dosent matter. ;p
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> [4-tea-2]: did you tell the ssh server to not request passwords?
[19:49] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I started to a while ago when I was working on a project for automated deb file creation to find out more of how things are packaged but I don't quite remember it all
[19:49] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I'll be sure to read it. I still have the URL bookmarked I think
[19:50] <[4-tea-2]> ActionParsnip: it's not asking for a password, but for the pass*phrase* for an already loaded (according to ssh-add -L) key. You know, the "secret" used to decrypt a locally stored ssh private key.
[19:51] <rbnswartz> [4tea-2] how do I provide my secret key then?
[19:51] <[4-tea-2]> rbnswartz: ?
[19:51] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,    http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/    http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/       http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/
[19:52] <HTC-DZ> dr willis, its showing what i was looking for which was the space of mods downloaded.  :) which is what i was looking for. lol ay this is going to take a getting used to. :)
[19:52] <rbnswartz> [4-tea-2] I was the person that this started with. How do I provide gpg with my secret key in order to sign things?
[19:52] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  also this is good https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/
[19:53] <RELOL> hi. Ubuntu 12.04 freezes after have pluged an MTP device
[19:53] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  err.. that wawsent anyway near  the question i saw you asking. ;P
[19:53] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  look at the help.launchpad for that
[19:53] <RELOL> gvfs-gphoto2 60% cpu
[19:53] <HTC-DZ> i really need to understand how this system works. from what i gather, anything you install goes into a "pool" and any new program doesnt re download whats in the "pool" instead it just uses it from there. correct?
[19:54] <[4-tea-2]> rbnswartz: ActionParsnip responded to my, completely separate, question. Nothing to do with you.
[19:54] <rbnswartz> [4-tea-2] ok then never mind
[19:54] <mega1> how do i fine out how big each partition is
[19:54] <RELOL> DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[19:55] <dr_willis> mega1:  sudo fdisk -l
[19:55] <HTC-DZ> willis, heres the orignal q.  "guys, how do i check how much disk space openarena <the game> is using? i cant find its installed folder" my answer according to disk usage analyzer is 136MB. how is my q not answered?
[19:55] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  i saw you asking where speciifc things got installed..
[19:56] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  the locate command is handy for finding things you have totally lost  ;)
[19:56] <escott> HTC-DZ, not everyone sees every question. but running dpkg through df and awk can get the answer
[19:56] <HTC-DZ> willis, yes, coz according to windows, if you go to the folder where things are installed you find the size of the program. but this works differently i see.
[19:57] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  if you install stuff via the packagte manager tools the apps do not go into a single folder.
[19:57] <dr_willis> come can, and put links to differnt locations.. but not all of them
[19:57] <HTC-DZ> i know escott, im just clarifying myself to willis :)
[19:57] <mega1> would my hd show up if it was not formated
[19:58] <dr_willis> mega1:  you partion hard drives. then format the filesystems on the partions.
[19:58] <dr_willis> mega1:  fdisk shows the disks and how they are partioned.
[19:58] <HTC-DZ> willis, i have gathered that now :) lol
[19:58] <dr_willis> mega1:  gparted can aso.
[19:59] <escott> mega1, fdisk is pretty old and doesnt handle all partition types. sudo parted -l is preferred over sudo fdisk -l.
[19:59]  * dr_willis is old skool
[19:59]  * dr_willis is old....
[19:59] <HTC-DZ> is there a need for an antivirus software for ubuntu 12.04LTS and if so, which is a good free one to have?
[20:00] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  not really a need. unless you want to scan windows files
[20:00] <escott> dr_willis, not to worry. there is always someone older, until there isn't. then you die
[20:00] <dr_willis> actually thats about the only use for AV software on linux. ;) scanning your windows stuff
[20:00] <mega1> i cloned my hd onto a bigger one and after it said the linux was 32meg big and the unpartioned space was 32 just trying to format it
[20:00] <escott> !antivirus | HTC-DZ
[20:00] <dr_willis> mega1:  use gparted to 'resize' existing partions. or create new ones.
[20:01] <mega1> when i did fdisk -l it says i have 3 two are linux and the other is extended
[20:01] <darkhalo117> I've been looking through the grub2 configuration page on the community website. It tells me how to change my default OS but it doesn't tell me how to tell which menu entry win xp is. Any help?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: parted is a bit more descriptive than fdisk ;)
[20:02] <dr_willis> you kids and your fancy new commands... get off my lawn! ;P
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: fdisk shows partitions as 'linux'  parted shows them as 'ext4'
[20:02] <newbie|8> J have a problem with amule.  It looks like it starts, but the only way I can get it to run is in sudo mode
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: I'm pretty old school too :)
[20:02]  * bobweaver puts tent on dr_willis  made from html5
[20:02] <bobweaver> lawn ^^
[20:02] <Rocklaw> What about that Bose unit that goes under the TV? Any good? Looks like a large version of the Wave Radio.
[20:02] <k1l> newbie|8: pretty sure you already ruined the rightsmanagment with the sudo-running
[20:02]  * darkhalo117 tricks out his tent with css3
[20:02] <dr_willis> Rocklaw:  :) how is that ubuntu support related.
[20:03] <bazhang> Rocklaw, how is that connected to ubuntu
[20:03] <mega1> it says GtK-WARNING **: cannot open display
[20:03] <dr_willis> Guess it wasent.
[20:03] <newbie|8> k1l: It didn't work before I did the sudo
[20:03] <escott> newbie|8, must need access to a privileged port
[20:03] <newbie|8> escott: What is a priveleged port??
[20:04] <Noskcaj> ActionParsnip, my install was messed up so i put xubuntu on rather than try to fix it
[20:04] <HTC-DZ> ubottu, thanks for that link :)
[20:04] <newbie|8> k1l: Is there a way to fix the rightsmanagement?
[20:04] <escott> newbie|8, a low one <1024
[20:05] <RELOL> libmtp 0.9
[20:05] <HTC-DZ> ubottu, artificial intelligence beats human stupidity any day of the week :p
[20:05] <Compaq_Owner> need help
[20:05] <darkhalo117> How do I get the numbering in my grub2 menu entries so I can change my default os?
[20:05] <bazhang> HTC-DZ, /msg ubottu
[20:05] <Compaq_Owner> I have an aspire one D270-1865 which came with windows 7, and I wanted to get rid of it and replace it with ubuntu. So, I followed the instructions to create a bootable usb with the ubuntu iso and booted it on the system. Everything went fine, and it said the installation was successful and for me to reboot. So I did and nothing happened, no windows or ubuntu. I booted the usb again to...
[20:05] <Compaq_Owner> ...try...	Compaq_Owner	...and reinstall ubuntu but again nothing appeared. So I got out my old desktop and formatted the usb and put dban on it. Then wiped my useless system. Once it was wiped I formatted the usb again and recreated the ubuntu iso on it, and loaded it back onto the wiped PC, but only text appeared.
[20:05] <bobweaver> maybe bose  and tv and barghh One remote http://www.whizzy.org/2012/11/device-control-over-hdmi-via-cec-libcec-ftw/
[20:05] <k1l> newbie|8: take a look into the folder in your home and see if its owned by root. that is wrong it must be owned by your user
[20:05] <escott> newbie|8, seems odd for a p2p client, but its clearly some kind of permissions issue.
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: what video chip does it use?
[20:06] <Compaq_Owner> idk
[20:06] <SonikkuAmerica> darkhalo117: look in the /etc/grub.d/ folder, I think it's there
[20:06] <newbie|8> k1l: Could you give me the command to look in the folder?  I'm a n00b
[20:06] <escott> darkhalo117, the numbering is in order of how they are listed in the grub.cfg which is built by running /etc/grub.d in sequence
[20:07] <k1l> newbie|8: "ls -al"
[20:07] <darkhalo117> Thank you guys!
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: seems to be a radeon 6250
[20:07] <new2linx> i need help with my olevia screen going into dpms standby and suspend after ubuntu boots up. I had a mx400 video card and I changed it to nvidia 6200. i can see everything loading, i can even login but the screen soon goes into dpms suspend mode
[20:07] <Compaq_Owner> a wat?
[20:07] <yanick_> Hi, will HDMI sound be supported at some point with the open source ATI driver (for a Radion HD 3xxx card) ?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: try the boot option:   radeon.nomodeset=1
[20:07] <Compaq_Owner> how?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | Compaq_Owner
[20:08] <newbie|8> k1l: What answer to that will tell me the owner?  I need to look at .amule, right?
[20:08] <SonikkuAmerica> darkhalo117: One more note: If you want to change the boot order, the easiest way to do that is to head for /etc/grub.d/ (as root) and edit the number at the beginning of the title.
[20:09] <battlecat> Hi. I have a HDMI video card. When I used Linux mint it had this feature that auto detected that I needed some restricted nvidia drivers and it always found the right ones. Where can I find that on Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> yanick_: maybe, if you use 12.10 you will need the legacy driver via PPA to make it work
[20:09] <battlecat> Sorry I meant 12.10
[20:09] <HTC-DZ> guys, if i remove a game via the ubuntu software center does the mods for said game get deleted as well? or do i have to delete em separately somehow?
[20:09] <darkhalo117> Ok so lowest number boots first?
[20:09] <k1l> newbie|8: the two lines where most times is your username. that is the line for owner and group_owner of the file/folder
[20:09] <escott> HTC-DZ, manually
[20:10] <SonikkuAmerica> darkhalo117: Correct
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> HTC-DZ: depends where they are stored
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: which nvidia gpu?
[20:10] <krabador> hi people, i need help to reconfigure xorg
[20:10] <newbie|8> k1l: the command was ls -aL or -aI?
[20:10] <HTC-DZ> how would i know if they removed automatically?
[20:10] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, I am not sure. Is there a way I can find out without opening the machine again?
[20:10] <k1l> -aL
[20:10] <SonikkuAmerica> darkhalo117: This is typically done when you want to put Windows in front of the other OS'es in GRUB2
[20:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Or another OS
[20:11] <countley> is there a program for fashion design on ubuntu
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> HTC-DZ: if they are stored in a subfolder in $HOME then it will still stand
[20:11] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  depends on how the mods got installed. If the files are in the users Home directory (custome maps and so forth that were instaleld by the user) then the software center will NOT touch files in the users home.
[20:11] <mega1> i tried gparted it says GtK-WARNING **: cannot open display
[20:11] <newbie|8> k1l: It tells me that I cannot access al, no such directory
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: lspci | grep -i vga
[20:11] <escott> dr_willis, it shouldnt be touching them even if they are in /usr/share/games if they aren't in the package manifest
[20:11] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Is X11 enabled?
[20:11] <HTC-DZ> oh, i see. that sucks lol
[20:11] <DogP> I just extracted the rootfs of 13.04... can someone tell me what the default user/pass is?  I can't seem to find it.
[20:12] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a2)
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> countley: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1960709
[20:12] <mega1> dont think so
[20:12] <bazhang> DogP, there is none. #ubuntu+1 for 13.04 not here
[20:12] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: There's your problem.
[20:12] <escott> HTC-DZ, the general rule of thumb is that removing things with apt only removes things that were installed by apt. if you download and install with some other tool its your responsibility
[20:12] <DogP> bazhang: okay, thx
[20:12] <mega1> how do i enable it
[20:13] <Steph__> apparently the old "jiggle the handle" trick works for computers too because we finally out the display to output to the tv but new problem
[20:13] <k1l> newbie|8: ?
[20:13] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Do you have a GUI (Unity, KDE, etc.) installed?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: and if you run:   apt-cache policy nvidia-current    which version is installed?
[20:13] <mega1> not on the server
[20:13] <newbie|8> k1l: I had forgotten to do the - before the aL.  This time around, the correct command tells me that .amule is under my personal access
[20:13] <k1l> newbie|8: what are you typing? "ls -al" is what i suggested you to put in
[20:13] <Compaq_Owner> !nomodeset
[20:13] <new2linx> I've turned off dpms within the tv setup.
[20:14] <Steph__> the computer cannot see the wireless card when I type nm-tool into the terminal all the display information is about wired internet connections. Any idea how to fix that?
[20:14] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, Installed: 304.51.really.304.43-0ubuntu1
[20:14] <k1l> newbie|8: ok
[20:14] <HTC-DZ> escott, i went in the app and went to ,mutliplayer and stuff downloaded. does that mean i have to delete those mods on my own?
[20:14] <mega1> i ma connecting using putty
[20:14] <newbie|8> k1l: The first time I did the aL, I had forgotten the "-"
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: ok, so you have an ok driver. Do you get a low res?
[20:14] <shallwe> hi guys, someone here using ubuntu 12.10 and virtualbox?
[20:14] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: OK that helps me big-time
[20:14] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Do you have a program called Xming?
[20:14] <shallwe> virtual box instaled in ubuntu 12.10
[20:14] <escott> HTC-DZ, yes. same as if you downloaded something in firefox. apt-get remove firefox should not delete everything you downloaded in the browser
[20:14] <k1l> then type "amule" in the terminal. if the programm gets errors it should state them there. but dont close the terminal
[20:14] <mega1> no
[20:14] <STF> hello guys, i am looking for a dhcp-server which i can configure this way, that i can use it to map 4 Public Ips to 4 virtualbox guests?
[20:15] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, no the res is correct as far as I can tell. What is happening is the audio is sometimes "fuzzy" like static and the image on the HD video gets this effect that I can only think of as tearing.
[20:15] <STF> the vm guest are started in bridgemode
[20:15] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Google it, download it onto your Windows computer, install it, and switch it on (kill PuTTY first)
[20:15] <newbie|8> k1l: Does this mean anything ...  the directory "." is under me and the ".." is under root?
[20:15] <mega1> i have server 10.04 just ftp ssh were installed
[20:15] <k1l> newbie|8: that is fine
[20:15] <escott> new2linx, /home is always owned by root, as long as you own /home/username thats fine
[20:16] <escott> newbie|8, ^^^
[20:16] <newbie|8> drwxrwxr-x  4 steve steve     4096 Dec  1 21:00 .aMule
[20:16] <newbie|8>  
[20:16] <HTC-DZ> oh man :( so now how would i hunt down these add ons? and is the $home folder you referring to the icon below the start icon?
[20:16] <escott> newbie|8, and ".." is up one directory, "." is the current directory (so probably /home/username)
[20:16] <k1l> newbie|8: that is fine
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[20:16] <k1l> newbie|8: lets move on for the next step
[20:16] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Hmm... You're using server 10.04 right now?
[20:17] <escott> HTC-DZ, its almost certainly in $HOME/.program_name
[20:17] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, that was a neat trick.
[20:17] <newbie|8> k1l: I think I had screwed up before and someone told me to delete something and after that, it worked
[20:17] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3627ebe296f62c880194f456322caa97bc0772d2
[20:17] <Sivik> anyone else have any video issues when playing any sort of video from a remote computer?  avi or mkv format?
[20:17] <escott> HTC-DZ, otherwise it would have to know how to get root privs to install the programs in /usr/share/games
[20:17] <mega1> yes
[20:17] <Sivik> I'm getting a choppy line about 1/4 down from the top
[20:18] <dr_willis> Sivik:  sounds like video 'tearing' to me.
[20:18] <Sivik> dr_willis, is that something caused by the video or the connection or the video playing?  The videos play fine on my tv
[20:18] <newbie|8> k1l: Something like a *.dat or something like that
[20:18] <dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing
[20:18] <dr_willis> Sil4nc4:  its the nature of videos   dependign on how they get rendered
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: very handy :)
[20:19] <dr_willis> Sivik: :  its the nature of videos   dependign on how they get rendered
[20:19] <gandsnut> Can I run 12.10 with selectable Unity, Gnome or other desktop?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: do you have onboard sound?
[20:19] <zatan> hey how can I set on file permission like this -rw-rw-r-- ?
[20:19] <mega1> SonikkuAmerica: yes why is something wrong with it
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: I imagine you are using HDMI audio
[20:19] <dr_willis> Sivik:  enabling vsync can get rid of it ive noticed.
[20:19] <Sivik> Ok.
[20:19] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, yes. At least I would like to
[20:19] <Sivik> Let me try doing that in the nvidia control panel.
[20:19] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Pardon the delay...
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: have you disabled the onboard sound in BIOS?
[20:19] <battlecat> I can tell you ActionParsnip that I am using Clementine right now and the audio sounds fine.
[20:20] <escott> zatan, that is 664 see !permissions
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: ok that's cool
[20:20] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Can you install stuff?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: what apps does the sound go funny?
[20:20] <mega1> yes
[20:20] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, VLC Parole MPlayer
[20:20] <mega1> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[20:20] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: OK, sudo apt-get -y install x11
[20:21] <HTC-DZ> ok i managed to find the .pk3 files. <if that helps> does removing those simply remove the add ons?
[20:21] <battlecat> Playing Mp4 files from youtube ActionParsnip
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: tried different sound options in VLC?
[20:21] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, No I have not.
[20:21] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Tell me if that works
[20:21] <k1l> gandsnut: yes, you can select at the login
[20:21] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, I have no clue that there was another
[20:21] <zatan> escott, chers
[20:21] <new2linx> how do i purge all nvidia drivers and start over. i am in tty1
[20:22] <du_> users: how can I use ubuntu 10.10 for the internet? I use kubuntu 11.04 for my laptop!  :-|
[20:22] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, The "tearing" is more upsetting
[20:22] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, cant watch anything fullscreen without flinching at it
[20:22] <gandsnut> k1l: OK.  How can I confirm Gnome and other desktops are installed?
[20:22] <Sivik> dr_willis, now to figure out how to enable vsync
[20:23] <gandsnut> With synaptic gone, I'm really lost
[20:23] <mega1> SonikkuAmerica: couldnt fing package x11
[20:23] <k1l> gandsnut: look if the packages are installed?
[20:23] <new2linx> can anyone help me remove nvidia 96.43 and install the correct one for a nvidia 6200?
[20:23] <newbie|8> k1l: I saw something in the .amule directory that seems familiar ... statistics.dat.  Would I be doing something dangerous to delete that?
[20:23] <cxclol> hello how can I unnistal programs by terminal?
[20:23] <gandsnut> k1l: respectfully, I don't know where to look in this Unity
[20:23] <k1l> newbie|8: im not familiar with amule in that case
[20:23] <Sivik> sudo aptitude remove <programname>
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: did you set a different video output method in VLC
[20:23] <Sivik> or sudo apt-get remove <programname>
[20:23] <Sivik> !apt
[20:24] <cxclol> thank you
[20:24] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, I have found them but have no idea what to change them to
[20:24] <k1l> gandsnut: you can install synaptic
[20:24] <Sivik> cxclol, man pages are your friends. ;)
[20:24] <k1l> gandsnut: if you are familiar with it
[20:24] <newbie|8> k1l: I'm going to try that ... ActionParsnip, do you see any problem with that?
[20:24] <DJones> !aptitude | Sivik I don't think I would use aptitude any more,
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: Video tab under preferences.....
[20:24] <Sivik> DJones, thats why I gave him the option
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: what have you tried doing to resolve this....?
[20:25] <gandsnut> k1l:  well, I don't mind learning the new environment, can you give a suggestion where to look to see what desktops are installed?
[20:25] <newbie|8> ActionParsnip: Do you see any problem with me deleting a file "statistics.dat" in my amule to restart the program
[20:25] <battlecat> LOL I have played around changing settings but well I dont get any results. Do I need to change and exit or just change the setting
[20:25] <dr_willis> Sivik:    you may want to use the 'ccsm' tool and see if 'sync to vblank' is enabled. I thought it was turned on by default. that seems to help my systems.
[20:25] <DJones> Sivik: Yeah, I realise that, just thought it was putting the link in channel for others to reference as well
[20:25] <k1l> gandsnut: a package system you want: softwarecenter, synaptic, apt-get etc etc etc
[20:25] <Sivik> that works.
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> newbie|8: could rename te file instead, less destructive
[20:25] <ftruzzi> Hi, I have an arch installation and my home folder is in a separate hard drive. Can I make a fresh install of ubuntu using that home partition?
[20:26] <k1l> gandsnut: or just log out and see what you can choose in the login screen
[20:26] <Sivik> !ccsm
[20:26] <gandsnut> k1l:  will try, thanks
[20:26] <newbie|8> ActionParsnip: I put it in the trash, but that didn't change anything
[20:26] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, no worries about it. Thank you for your time and help
[20:26] <dr_willis> Sivik:  i also have a similer setting on my Nvidia Control panel tool for my nvidia systems
[20:26] <Sivik> are you using the nvidia-settings program?
[20:27] <CowokAsyik> hmmm
[20:27] <dr_willis> both are enabled Sivik
[20:27] <Sivik> dr_willis, for nvidia, is it the vsync blinking thing?
[20:27] <dr_willis> then theres differnt vlc video filters you could enable. ;) but ive rarey needed that.
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: try changing it to X11, see how it goes
[20:28] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, ok will do
[20:28] <mega1> what is x11
[20:28] <dr_willis> Nvidia Settings -> open gl -> Sync to Vblank
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: I'm just not seeing what you have done to make this better...
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica_> mega1: Are you still there? (Solaris was glitching, hard-rebooted back into Ubuntu 12.10)
[20:28] <Sivik> dr_willis, does x have to be restarted to see the change?
[20:28] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, Well I guess other than downloading a few test videos and changing basic settings in the preferences not a whole lot. I am not a programer
[20:29] <dr_willis> Sivik:  not that i know of.
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: you don't have to be a programmer.
[20:29] <Sivik> dr_willis, thats weird, I guess i'm going to have to do something in that ccsm.
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: I'm not....
[20:29] <battlecat> I am thinking that I will go back to Mint since that worked out of the box so to say. I do appreciate your time though.
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: why would you need to be?
[20:29] <dr_willis> Sivik:  you did click the apply button ;)
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: the exact same  options for VLC are in Windows, do you need to be a programmer there too/
[20:30] <Sivik> dr_willis, did the save to x configuration file
[20:30] <dr_willis> Sivik:  that WOULD require an X restart then
[20:30] <Sivik> dr_willis, I don't have an apply button
[20:30] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, here is something strange the Youtube video when watched in Firefox are fine but not when watched in VLC. I dont use windows lol I have a mac and a linux box
[20:31] <Sivik> dr_willis, doesn't do it for local videos but does for network videos, would that make a difference?
[20:31] <darkhalo117> Would "30_os-prober" be indicative of a windows boot in grub2?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: same VLC options are in MacOS...do you need to be a programmer there too?
[20:31] <battlecat> No MAC just works
[20:31] <dr_willis> Sivik:  hve never noticed the network mattering.. unless its real High def videos.
[20:31] <battlecat> lol
[20:31] <escott> darkhalo117, yes
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: so what relevance does "I am not a programer"  have, to anything in your situation?
[20:31] <Sivik> hum.
[20:31] <dr_willis> Sivik:  could be its how the videos are getting streamed over the network also.
[20:32] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, I do not want to get into editing text files and all that.
[20:32] <dr_willis> Text files are scary! ;)
[20:32] <SolarisBoy> word
[20:32] <Sivik> dr_willis, maybe but I know its not a thru-put issue.  Its a 1 gbps network connection between the two computers
[20:32] <battlecat> Is there a way to turn off something called compositing if I have it on?
[20:32] <battlecat> found awebpage
[20:32] <escott> darkhalo117, the other thing you can try is /etc/default/grub the one downside to renaming 30 to 09 is if those scripts get updated yours wont
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: you're not, you are changing config via a GUI. Edittin a text file does not constitute programming
[20:32] <dr_willis> battlecat:  that will disable a lot of the video effects/eyecandy
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: if you've fixed as many macs as I have. you'd know they don't just work
[20:33] <Sivik> dr_willis, could be the fact its 1080 video.
[20:33] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, Im sorry I dont agree. I work at a university and no one ever complains about MACs but the students complain about windows lol.
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: try installing xfce4, log off and log in to the xfce session and try there
[20:33] <battlecat> dr_willis, I would like to do that then.
[20:33] <dr_willis> Sivik:  i rarely have any 1080p videos so No idea on that.
[20:33] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, I am in XFCE.
[20:33] <darkhalo117> After I make these changes, do I need to run sudo update-grub?
[20:33] <Sivik> dr_willis, thanks for your input
[20:33] <dr_willis> battlecat:  it may be beter if you clarify exactly what you are trying to do wna dwhy.
[20:34] <SillyMe> battlecat, what are you trying to do again?
[20:34] <battlecat> ah back to Linux Mint.
[20:34] <battlecat> Thanks guys.
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: I have Linux servers with upwards of 3 years uptime, and Windows SQL servers with similar
[20:34] <dr_willis> Sivik:  vlc has differnt filters that may help also. I tend to only watch anime. :) so action movies and so forth may be differnt
[20:34] <SillyMe> battlecat, if you don't like editing text files, you wouldn't like slackware :)
[20:35] <Sivik> dr_willis, yea, i'm watching fringe in VLC and its doing it. but it is 1080
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: editting text files isn't programming, just so you know
[20:35] <escott> darkhalo117, yes
[20:35] <dr_willis> flash is acting weird.. so i will go use mint...  logical..
[20:35] <dr_willis> ;P
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: seen it too many times
[20:36] <dr_willis> VLC has its own 'flash code' dosent it? ive never really noticed. ;)
[20:36] <SillyMe> people are lucky flash ever works right
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> SillyMe: I use chrome and have zero issues
[20:37] <countley> ActionParsnip: cheers
[20:38] <SillyMe> having zero issues when using  anything is practically a chrostmas miracle
[20:38] <bobweaver> all sorts of codex but not fringe :(  http://imagebin.org/237838
[20:38] <SonikkuAmerica_> SillyMe: lol
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> SillyMe: I do, all working here. I shop SMART. Shop S-MART :)
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> SillyMe: Dell D420 works 100% OOTB, with HP Deskjet 960C POS printer needing no config......
[20:39] <protos> Why sudo echo "@setxkbmap -option grp:ctrl_shift_toggle "us,ru"" >> /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart  returns access denied? How to do it with sudo rights correctly?
[20:39] <SillyMe> So you never at any time ever had a single issue?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> SillyMe: using the system for web and chat and spotify. Simple times :)
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> SillyMe: oh lots but in the last 4 years it's been flawless
[20:40] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  SO DOES MY DN420 :)
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> SillyMe: broadcom used to be a nightmare on my old Acer Aspire thing but this just flys
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: fun times eh :)
[20:40] <bobweaver> soory n5040
[20:40] <SonikkuAmerica> ((TEST: 2))
[20:40] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  yup esp when everything works OOTB :)
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> SillyMe: I don't buy what is new, or cheap, or all the rage. I buy what is known to work...i have no problems
[20:40] <SonikkuAmerica> ((OK I'm back))
[20:41] <SonikkuAmerica> protos: Do you need 2 ">"s in your command syntax?
[20:42] <escott> protos, no sudo. | sudo tee -a instead
[20:42] <protos> SonikkuAmerica: I need just append a line to file... As I understand I should use >> for that
[20:42] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, then follow what escott said
[20:42] <escott> protos, >> is handled by the shell (bash) which is not sudo
[20:43] <protos> escott: big thanks
[20:43] <du_> users: Are you all on kubuntu x.x? :-|
[20:43] <escott> du_, no
[20:43] <RELOL> No samsung device owners?
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> protos: sudo doesn't traverse te >>
[20:44] <dr_willis> RELOL:  samsung makes a LOT of devices...
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> protos: you need to use:   echo "text" | sudo tee /path/to/file
[20:44] <escott> protos, hopefully that makes sense, but "sudo echo" is rather pointless. echo never does anything that needs root access
[20:45] <RELOL> dr_willis, yes, but MTP makes it unusable on Ubuntu
[20:45] <darkhalo117> You guys are awesome. Do you just chat on irc all day and get paid to do so?
[20:45] <escott> protos, and be careful of the difference between tee and tee -a. tee is like >. tee -a is like >>
[20:45] <dr_willis> RELOL:  actually ive seen guides on getting MTP working. Ive done it befor. but these days i tend to just use wifi to get stuff back/forth to my phones
[20:45] <escott> darkhalo117, paid. please send us your CC number when you are done :-P
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> darkhalo117: I do when work is dead
[20:45] <du_> escott: How does the internet move on ubuntu 10.10? :-|
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> du_: maverick is EOL
[20:46] <RELOL> Wifi direct?
[20:46] <dr_willis> RELOL:  I tend to connect to the local lan and use any of the various tools to transfer files. ssh/scp samba,
[20:47] <darkhalo117> I'll buy a t-shirt from the store haha
[20:47] <dr_willis> I recall following this site once - not sure if its still needed for 12.10 http://ubuntu.mylifeunix.org/2012/05/29/how-to-connect-android-smartphone-ice-cream-sandwich-to-ubuntu-to-browse-files-and-for-file-access/
[20:48] <DogP> is there an OMAP3 build of ubuntu desktop 12.10?  I'm only seeing the OMAP4, but the wiki talks about it for the OMAP3 as well: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OmapDesktopInstall
[20:48] <escott> darkhalo117, its all volunteer, and not directly affiliated with canonical, but feel free to donate to an open source cause if thats your wish. we are in here because we like freedom (at least thats presumptively true)
[20:49] <Kazfd> Anyone know how to make a restore script in bash? trying to restore it from a file manifest. #BASH is unresponsive. :(
[20:49] <escott> Kazfd, restore what?
[20:49] <du_> ActionParsnip: At first I had kubuntu 10.10 until Nov 2012 online in action, upgrade to 11.04 now! :-)
[20:50] <SonikkuAmerica> du_: You'll want to upgrade to at least 11.10
[20:50] <Kazfd> escott: Restores a file to it's original location. Like the recycle bin in Windows, if something is deleted, the script will restore it to its original location.
[20:50] <bazhang> du_, 11.04 is end of life as well
[20:50] <darkhalo117> Much appreciated, escott. Do you guys know when the Ubuntu for Android is going to be released? I saw the youtube video and it was pretty cool!
[20:50]  * SonikkuAmerica nods to bazhang
[20:51] <escott> darkhalo117, best guess is thats going to have to be sold with specific devices. they may make a development release for people willing to reflash systems, but flashing systems is not something you want just any random Joe doing
[20:52] <escott> Kazfd, i would check FDO (freedesktop.org) and see if there is a command line tool written for that.
[20:52] <darkhalo117> True statement
[20:52] <Kazfd> escott: I need to create it myself. Already looked around for the bash code and haven't found anything.
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> du_: i'd just clean install Precise.
[20:53] <escott> Kazfd, but things like "rm" do not go to any kind of "trash can" its just gone
[20:53] <du_> SonikkuAmerica: I think you know;" Never change a winning horse!" :-)
[20:53] <cc_INC> du_ unless it's EOL :)
[20:54] <Kazfd> escott: I know. I created a delete script that moves to a separate location. However, I am stumped on how it's to restore to an original location.
[20:54] <escott> Kazfd, well when you move it you need to log the location somehow. i would look at how freedesktop.org specifies that is to be done and follow their format
[20:54] <SillyMe> I suppose of there were some final entry point for file deletions in the OS, you might be able to hook it?
[20:55] <Zorro> hello
[20:56] <escott> Guest28487, helo
[20:56] <Guest28487> hello escott
[20:56] <Kazfd> escott: Before a file is deleted, I log it in a manifest log that I created.
[20:56] <ex0a> is it possible to add a 3rd party repository during expert install or should i just wait until i boot into the system the first time?
[20:56] <Guest28487> how are you
[20:57] <Guest28487> bye bye
[20:57] <escott> Kazfd, i would recommend you use the FDO standard whatever that is. but at the end of the day you have to parse your log and figure out the restore location and move it back
[20:58] <SillyMe> what would Kazfd do if the file had been recreated in between?
[20:58] <otend1> is there any way to make the last number of a local IP static without affecting the others?
[20:59] <escott> SillyMe, you are just overthinking things. that will never happen
[20:59] <Kazfd> otend1: Without affecting the others?
[20:59] <otend1> as in, the three other numbers
[20:59] <escott> otend1, no. not possible
[20:59] <otend1> in other words, can I force the local IP of a system to adap--Oh.
[20:59] <otend1> welp.
[21:00] <escott> otend1, what would happen if the next subnet already gave that low bit out
[21:00] <SillyMe> escoot, that happens all the time, when files were automatically generated by any partocular software package "x".
[21:01] <escott> SillyMe, i'm kidding
[21:01] <gordonjcp> otend1: What exactly are you trying to do?
[21:03] <dodoteam> fuck
[21:03] <bobweaver> !language | dodoteam
[21:03] <dodoteam> fuck
[21:03] <bobweaver> thansk DJones
[21:04] <bobweaver> thanks *
[21:05] <gopostal> hi all, my root HDD says its 99%-100% used, but if i trow away big files it will be full again in 1 day. without installing anything that i know of
[21:05] <escott> gopostal, check if any really large files are in /var/log
[21:06] <SillyMe> gopostal, how big is your hard drive?
[21:06] <gopostal> if i select every file on my hdd it states that it is 24.8gb but also something like 38gb is used
[21:06] <gopostal> my hdd is 38,5 (partition)
[21:07] <frederico> hello, i am searchin for someone, who is able to help me for a technical problem. can anyone give some help?
[21:07] <jesusemelendezm> quick question... when executing a c program on command line it gives me a permission denied.
[21:07] <jesusemelendezm> ./programNAME
[21:07] <jesusemelendezm> after it was compiled.
[21:07] <k1l> !ask > frederico
[21:07] <gopostal> escott: the /var/log is 6.4mb in total
[21:07] <SillyMe> did you set it's file attributes to "executable"?
[21:07] <escott> jesusemelendezm, is the c program opening any files?
[21:08] <aTT0> yea u got to change permissions
[21:08] <zykotick9> jesusemelendezm: is it mark executable?
[21:08] <gordonjcp> you shouldn't have to change its permissions at all
[21:08] <gordonjcp> that's stupid
[21:08] <trism> jesusemelendezm: how did you compile it?
[21:08] <escott> SillyMe, zykotick9 GCC should mark a.out as executable
[21:08] <escott> if he isn't using GCC then maybe
[21:08] <zykotick9> escott: thanks, good to know
[21:09] <jesusemelendezm>  gcc -Wall-W-Werror main.c -o HelloWorldC
[21:09] <jesusemelendezm> excample
[21:09] <jesusemelendezm> example
[21:09] <SillyMe> what do you get if you "ls -l main" ?
[21:09] <gordonjcp> jesusemelendezm: can you pastebin exactly what you type to compile it, exactly what you type to run it, and any errors you get?
[21:10] <jesusemelendezm> no errors
[21:10] <escott> gopostal, there is a disk-usage utility that will say where your disk is being used
[21:10] <gopostal> escott, oke i will check that out
[21:10] <SonikkuAmerica> That IS a weird set of args (I know what they all do but why)
[21:10] <escott> gopostal, baobob
[21:10] <escott> gopostal, rather "baobab" is the name of the program
[21:11] <gopostal> escott, thanks
[21:11] <gordonjcp> jesusemelendezm: I didn't ask if there were no errors, I asked you to pastebin exactly what you type and what comes back
[21:11] <escott> !ask | frederico
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> gordonjcp: If he's using the webchat there is no pastebin option
[21:12] <angs> how to get a static wireless interface name (e.g. wlan1) on ubuntu 12.04?
[21:12] <gordonjcp> SonikkuAmerica: how do you figure that out?
[21:12] <escott> angs, you can modify udev to look at the mac address and fix the name
[21:13] <angs> escott: how can I do it?
[21:13] <frederico> is it possible that anybody could help me to solve tis problem:
[21:13] <frederico> http://www.physikerboard.de/ptopic,180909.html#180909
[21:13] <gordonjcp> SonikkuAmerica: you paste a link into the channel
[21:13] <escott> angs, /etc/udev/rules.d
[21:13] <escott> angs, http://gorfeulb.blogspot.com/2010/08/udev-update-map-between-mac-addresses.html
[21:13] <gordonjcp> frederico: 1) it's in German, 2) it looks like a homework problem 3) it is not an Ubuntu support issue
[21:13] <angs> escott: thank you
[21:14] <gopostal> escott, oke it seems that thunderbird is using a lot of disk space, i really didnt see that one coming, thanks for you help :)
[21:14] <escott> gopostal, it will keep a local copy of your mail database. might want to delete some older emails
[21:14] <SonikkuAmerica> gordonjcp: That problem is about air pressure
[21:15] <gordonjcp> SonikkuAmerica: I know what it's about
[21:15] <gordonjcp> SonikkuAmerica: I can read, you know
[21:15] <k1l> frederico: that is no ubuntu problem. so this is offtopic here
[21:15] <zykotick9> gopostal: fyi, you need to do something beyond just "deleting" emails to free space in thunderbird...
[21:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Sorry, I didn't know you had translated it... No need to be defensive about it...
[21:16] <gopostal> zykotick9, oke? please tell
[21:16] <zykotick9> gopostal: sorry, i don't remember.  i stopped using thunderbird, in part to due it space usage...
[21:16] <Argure> meh, I think I broke ipv6 :(
[21:17] <gopostal> zykotick9, oke :) thanks anyway i will search for it
[21:17] <Argure> argure@geonosis:~$ ping6 ubuntu.com
[21:17] <Argure> unknown host
[21:17] <SonikkuAmerica> gopostal: What zkyotick9 said and see if you can switch your email services to IMAP (rather than POP)
[21:17]  * Argure goes to play with config files :9
[21:17] <gordonjcp> SonikkuAmerica: Ich kann lesen ein bisschen Deutsch...
[21:17] <zykotick9> SonikkuAmerica: doesn't help with thunderbird, it saves imap local as well :(
[21:18] <SonikkuAmerica> gordonjcp: I believe you, zkyotick9: Really? I didn't even know that...
[21:18] <zvacet> does anyone know how to completely remove unity from 12.10?
[21:19] <gordonjcp> zvacet: install a non-Unity version?
[21:19] <gordonjcp> zvacet: you could just install another DE and use that instead
[21:19] <zykotick9> zvacet: don't install it to begin with?  start from mini.iso and only install what you want.  avoid the *-desktop metapackages...
[21:19] <zvacet> gordonjcp:  :@  and install all over again I don´t think so
[21:20] <boo_> I still use Gnome
[21:20] <gordonjcp> zvacet: why not just install another DE and not use Unity?
[21:20] <zykotick9> zvacet: see "/msg ubottu notunity" for installing alternatives, i wouldn't try to remove unity though...
[21:20] <gordonjcp> zvacet: you could use XFCE if you want a desktop that looks like the early 90s, or LXDE if you want a desktop that looks like the early 80s
[21:21] <boo_> There really isn't a need to remove Unity.  Just install another DE then just use that.
[21:21] <bobweaver> 80's ?
[21:21] <zvacet> gordonjcp: I know what I want but I will be happy to safely remove unity
[21:21] <SonikkuAmerica> gordonjcp: LXDE doesn't feel much like the '80s if you came from a DOS/Windows background... just saying
[21:21] <gordonjcp> zvacet: why bother?
[21:22] <gordonjcp> SonikkuAmerica: I haven't used Windows since 3.1 was current
[21:22] <streulma> zvacet: running the classic shell or gnome shell >> apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-tweak-tool
[21:22] <zvacet> gordonjcp: because i don´t want to have something I will not use
[21:22] <jesusemelendezm> anybody knows the IRC for code blocks?
[21:22]  * SonikkuAmerica smiles at gordonjcp
[21:23] <bobweaver> j/ #codebloacks
[21:23] <SonikkuAmerica> If that's the case, wouldn't Openbox be closer?
[21:23] <bobweaver> that is not going to work lol
[21:23] <gordonjcp> SonikkuAmerica: I do actually have a real, bought-and-paid-for set of 3.1 disks *somewhere*
[21:23] <Argure> wth did I break :(
[21:23] <Argure> argure@geonosis:~$ ping6 2a01:7c8:aaae:218::1
[21:23] <Argure> connect: Network is unreachable
[21:23] <zykotick9> gopostal: this might be of interest to you http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders
[21:23]  * Argure kicks ipv6 in the face
[21:24] <gopostal> zykotick9, thank you, will check it out
[21:24] <bobweaver> jesusemelendezm,  yeah it is #codeblocks
[21:24] <zvacet> I tried method described at  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu but not happy with that
[21:24] <jesusemelendezm> thanks guys.. how about for c++ ?
[21:24] <Mrokii> Hello. For some reason my USB Hub seems to stop working sometimes. When this happens, none of its LEDs for the different ports lights up anymore and nothing connected to it seems to be recognised by the system anymore, until I do a restart. Does anybody know why this happens or what I can do?
[21:24] <SonikkuAmerica> gordonjcp: I have mine as well as the base DOS 6.22 disks back home (I'm in college now)
[21:24] <ThinkT510> !alis | jesusemelendezm
[21:25] <bobweaver>  ##C++ ?
[21:25] <escott> Mrokii, check dmesg see if anything appears there
[21:25] <vbgunz> my computer freezes up randomly. I can lock it up by simply playing Bastion. When I go into the logs hoping I can see something that will stand out I see nothing that says heres why. What are some things I can do to figure out why this is happening?
[21:25] <jesusemelendezm> thanks guys
[21:26] <searching> how to remove flashplayer installed with apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:26] <escott> vbgunz, how are you checking the logs on the frozen system
[21:27] <bobweaver> searching,  software center maybe ?
[21:27] <Mrokii> escott: What should I look for? I've tried "dmesg | grep usb" but nothing showed up. But I don't know when the hub stopped working as I haven't used it for a day or two.
[21:27] <searching> where is libflashplugin.so located?
[21:27] <escott> Mrokii, if it has been days it might not be in dmesg anymore. you might need to check /var/log/syslog
[21:28] <Mrokii> escott: Okay, I'll take a look.
[21:28] <vbgunz> I don't check it when it's frozen. only the sysrq keys work, I go through reisub and when it's back up, I check out system log viewer, /var/log/syslog and ~/.xsession-errors. I really don't know what else to check and I've gone through so much over the last week about this, I am exhausted
[21:28] <bobweaver> searching,  locate  libflashplugin.so    or     sudo find / -name ' libflashplugin.so'
[21:28] <escott> vbgunz, so you are doing sync. you might install openssh-server and see if you can shell in when it happens
[21:29] <searching> nothing find
[21:29] <bobweaver> searching,  are you trying to purge it ?
[21:29] <bobweaver> searching,  like apt-get --purge remove <app>
[21:29] <searching> I trying to remove and install flashplayer 10
[21:29] <zykotick9> bobweaver: "apt-get purge foo" works just fine as well
[21:29] <funkt> hi there does anyone know how i could get a bottom bar in unity in 12.04?
[21:29] <Mrokii> escott: searching for "usb" shows a few dozens line with this text: "udevd[24203]: timeout: killing 'mtp-probe /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-1/1-1.4/1-1.4.4 1 69' [17792]"
[21:30] <vbgunz> in the xorg log I've noticed that I have a warning of hot plug being on and keyboard, mouse, etc will be disabled. maybe that has something to do with it?
[21:30] <bobweaver> searching,  look to see what is installed    dpkg-query -l | grep flash
[21:30] <SonikkuAmerica> searching: Did you try sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplayer-installer?
[21:30] <ThinkT510> funkt: moving the unity bar to the bottom is not supported
[21:30] <searching> yes
[21:30] <funkt> I want the folders to show at the bottom
[21:30] <vbgunz> escott: that's probably a great idea but I don't think I'll do it. I am sure an openssh-server in the wrong hands (mine) would most likely be a bad idea
[21:30] <dr_willis> funkt:  add a dock
[21:30] <searching> but I can enable flashplayer after remove
[21:30] <funkt> right
[21:31] <bobweaver> searching,  can you PASTEbin that for us ?
[21:31] <funkt> how do i do that?
[21:31] <dr_willis> !dock
[21:31] <escott> vbgunz, ok?
[21:31] <searching>  dpkg-query -l | grep flash done nothing
[21:31] <funkt> Ok sounds good how do i do that?
[21:31] <bobweaver> searching,  dpkg-query -l | grep  flash     then pastebin that for us to see
[21:31] <Argure> okay, quick question.
[21:31] <bobweaver> what what what Oo
[21:31] <Argure> I found my problem
[21:31] <Argure> how do I add an ipv6 inet to eth0 again? :P
[21:31] <dr_willis> funkt:  fire up the package manager tools.. pick a dock.. install it.
[21:32] <funkt> whoch dock will give me old school folder tabs?
[21:32] <searching> sudo apt-get install -f and installed flashplayer back
[21:32] <bobweaver> searching,  what about  apt-cache policy  flashplugin-installer
[21:32] <Mrokii> funkt: you could google for something like "ppa cairo-dock" for example.
[21:32] <dr_willis> funkt:  i dont know what you mean by old akool folder tabs.. so no idea
[21:32] <Mrokii> funkt: What are "folder tabs"?
[21:32] <funkt> well for example in the old ubuntu you had a bottom bar
[21:33] <funkt> and you could see all the folders that were open
[21:33] <dr_willis> funkt:  thats not folders... that was showing running apps.
[21:33] <funkt> I cant see that in ubuntu 12.04
[21:33] <funkt> well whatever
[21:33] <escott> !unity | funkt
[21:33] <funkt> can i do that in 12.04?
[21:33] <dr_willis> if you want to old gnome2 look.. then you can use the fallback mode
[21:33] <Mrokii> Cairo-Dock can do this, kind of. It can show open folders.
[21:33] <searching> just a moment
[21:33] <funkt> I dont want the old look
[21:33] <funkt> all i want is one bar at the bottom showing what is open
[21:33] <dr_willis> try some of the docks - see what you like.
[21:33] <escott> funkt, you dont want the old look, you just want the old look
[21:33] <anunakki> funk
[21:34] <bobweaver> !info  gnome-classic | funkt  If you like you can install
[21:34] <anunakki> funkt,
[21:34] <dr_willis> You want a application list.
[21:34] <anunakki> use cairo-dock
[21:34] <bobweaver> lo
[21:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Also, try MATE for the pure GNOME 2.x environment
[21:34] <ThinkT510> funkt: the bar at the side shows what is open
[21:34] <anunakki> would you like a screenshot of what cairo-dock look slike on a clean install?
[21:34] <funkt> oh thanks im going to try google I basically want unity but I want the bar at the bottom
[21:34] <funkt> Im sure it can be done
[21:34] <funkt> some how
[21:34] <anunakki> however, my wm is fluxbox and my OS is fbsd in the screenshot
[21:34] <gordonjcp> what's the obsession with Gnome 2 anyway?  It's horrible
[21:34] <funkt> thank toy
[21:34] <funkt> you
[21:34] <bobweaver> funkt,  you are good at c++
[21:34] <Mrokii> funkt: I have Unity and use Cairo-dock at the same time.
[21:34] <dr_willis> theres UNSUPPORTED hacks to unity to move it to the bottom..  No idea how well they work, if at all any more
[21:35] <anunakki> funkt, i suggest looking into openbox
[21:35] <anunakki> as window manager
[21:35] <anunakki> with cairo-dock
[21:35] <anunakki> but you can use it with unity as well
[21:35] <funkt> ok Ill try cairo dock then!
[21:35] <funkt> thank you
[21:35] <anunakki> np
[21:35] <roezer> Am sick of sync and social networking  just want to use my computer a browser photo and video editor and nvidia support out of the box any ideas of a distro
[21:35] <anunakki> np, uploading screenshot of one of my vms
[21:36] <streulma> ubottu: apt-get install gnome-shell
[21:36] <anunakki> just to give you an idea of what you can do
[21:36] <Mrokii> funkt: Just be prepared to fiddle around with the options. :) There are quite a few and there are a few plugins as well that are interesting.
[21:36] <gordonjcp> roezer: kxstudio?
[21:36] <funkt> superb thanks!
[21:36] <bobweaver> !info gnome-shell | streulma
[21:36] <dr_willis> roezer:  i dont think its legal for disrtos to include the nvidia drivers by default.
[21:36] <invariant> roezer, Linux has Cinerella, but otherwise :/
[21:37] <roezer> yea it's a bummer dr wilis am looking at kxstudio
[21:37] <ThinkT510> roezer: openshot is a good video editor
[21:37] <dr_willis> video editing is a big area with a lot of tools.. but it depends on what sort of editing you want to do
[21:37] <bobweaver> dr_willis, there is a curve on that but not distros that have money. and are registered in certian  areas
[21:37] <invariant> roezer, you should first select a video editor and then an OS, I suppose.
[21:37] <bobweaver> nvidia ^^
[21:37] <roezer> think t510 still it crashes too often and causes a jamming sound in some vids
[21:37] <dr_willis> bobweaver:  then ya got the small guys that just toss it in anyway ;)
[21:38] <bobweaver> dr_willis,  hence how minty things are
[21:38] <bobweaver> ireland
[21:38] <invariant> roezer, geeks generally cared more for text editors and compilers, which is the reason you don't see a lot of those free tools.
[21:39] <ThinkT510> roezer: i've never had a jamming sound but yeah it has crashed for me too, i just save often with it
[21:39] <invariant> roezer, Cinerella has been used professionally, AFAIK.
[21:39] <bobweaver> not the uk and backer is not million dollar man
[21:39] <invariant> roezer, it does require a beast of  a machine and a competent computer user.
[21:39] <roezer> Take shotwell for example it imports images puts them into date based floders
[21:39] <anunakki> frankt, http://i.imgur.com/NJLtU.jpg mind you that is freebsd/fluxbox/cairo-dock but i'm working on a vm with ubuntu/openbox/cairo-dock at the moment and i want to say it looks 100x better running cairo-dock in ubuntu than it does freebsd
[21:39] <anunakki> much more you can do
[21:40] <gordonjcp> I've never managed to get shotwell to work
[21:40] <roezer> I just copy my images into a folder upload what I need and delete the rest dont need those dates
[21:40] <invariant> gordonjcp, I did.
[21:40] <invariant> gordonjcp, I even got old versions to work.
[21:40] <Argure> yay, ipv6 works.
[21:40] <searching> I removed flashplayer 11.x.x.x and I have a .deb file with flashplayer 10.2.159 and it is installing same 11.x.x.x
[21:40] <gordonjcp> invariant: I think I maybe don't understand it
[21:40] <Argure> argure@geonosis:~$ sudo ip addr add 2a01:7c8:aaae:218::1/48 dev eth0
[21:40] <Argure> argure@geonosis:~$ sudo ip route add default via 2a01:7c8:aaae::1
[21:41] <bobweaver> !info unity-lens-photos | gordonjcp  you can synch up on start up :)
[21:41] <gordonjcp> invariant: I plug my camera in, after a few minutes it eventually shows me a window with lots of tiny thumbnails, and that's it
[21:41] <invariant> I think if you are a video engineer, that you should probably just write your own video software.
[21:41] <invariant> If you actually understand what you are doing, that's essentially what it would come down to.
[21:41] <roezer> invariant was looking at  Cinerella but had a kde based system
[21:41] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: none of that makes sense to me
[21:41] <invariant> roezer, how would that be relevant?
[21:42] <SonikkuAmerica> I was just about to ask the same thing
[21:42] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: I just want to open the directory on the camera, and look at the images in an image viewer
[21:42] <levi_> hey some one i seem to have 2 acconts on here how do i swithc back to angelpossum
[21:42] <invariant> roezer, you can run any X application.
[21:42] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: I really want to get rid of the stupid "open this folder in shotwell" bar
[21:42] <invariant> roezer, KDE is built on top of X, just like GTK+ is.
[21:42] <invariant> roezer, there is a slightly more complex structure on some websites explaining the relationship in more detail.
[21:43] <roezer> invariant  so it's loading another wm
[21:43] <levi_> hello
[21:43] <invariant> roezer, no, it is not.
[21:43] <bobweaver> gordonjcp,  then set the default things to what yoou want ... wait are you using unity ?
[21:43] <roezer> like xfce loads gnome
[21:43] <ThinkT510> roezer: no
[21:43] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: yes
[21:43] <invariant> roezer, you have no idea about how things work.
[21:43] <invariant> roezer, before complaining, you should first learn how things do work.
[21:43] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: I might just uninstall rhythmbox and shotwell, since I never use them and they don't work properly
[21:43] <levi_> hey some one i seem to have 2 acconts on here how do i swithc back to angelpossum
[21:44] <invariant> roezer, it's not like the Internet isn't full of free information on how things work.
[21:44] <dr_willis> levi_:  /nick yourothernick
[21:44] <ThinkT510> roezer: there can only be one window manager working at any one time
[21:44] <roezer> invariant  I manage to get them working most of the ime anyway :)
[21:44] <levi_> i need help
[21:44] <invariant> roezer, that's good, but you can just run cinerella on whatever you are doing, but, like I said, it requires some serious skill to use.
[21:44] <bobweaver> gordonjcp,  you have open unity dash and typed in "details "  and open that ?
[21:45] <levi_> didnt work i clicked my self on this bar------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->
[21:45] <bobweaver> gordonjcp,  then go to default apps you can set weth you want from there
[21:45] <bobweaver> reads over dbus
[21:46] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: yeah, that's not what I was talking about at all
[21:46] <invariant> http://www.heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra_shots.php
[21:46] <invariant> Cinerella looks quite alive and kicking from here.
[21:46] <bobweaver> lol gordonjcp  then what are you talking about
[21:46] <invariant> I never did anything remotely complex with it, however.
[21:47] <drecute> is it compulsory I install Kerberos in order to join to an active directory (samba)
[21:47] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: if I plug my camera in and browse to its directory with nautilus, there's a whacking great bar about an inch high that says "OPEN THIS FOLDER IN NAUTILUS"
[21:47] <levi_> how do i get to default apps
[21:47] <gordonjcp> sorry, not nautilus, shotwell
[21:47] <bobweaver> gordonjcp,  screenshot ?
[21:48] <roezer> invariant will try  Cinerella in a new ubuntu studio install and work from there
[21:48] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: what's *really* annoying is that if I plug my phone in there are two bars, taking up a lot of the window, one for rhythmbox and one for shotwell
[21:48] <BKTech86> hi! I would like to add my bluetooth headphones to the alsa list of devices in Precise.  Can anyone point me in the right direction? thanks!
[21:48] <levi_> gordonjcp:me
[21:48] <bobweaver> !screenshot | gordonjcp would you like to take a screen shot to show this off ?
[21:48] <levi_> will some one help me
[21:48] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: christ on a bike, be patient
[21:49] <gordonjcp> yes, I'll get a screenshot
[21:49] <gordonjcp> I know perfectly well how to get a screenshot
[21:49] <bobweaver> levi_,  open dash type in details open it and go to default apps
[21:49] <gordonjcp> first I have to plug either the camera or the phone in
[21:49] <Guest47682> hi everyone, i need some help. i have a raid 0 set up with 3 hard drives. in that raid 0 setup i partitioned about 75% of the disk space to a windows installation and about 300 gb are not formatted. i'm in the ubuntu live cd right now and would like to format that 300 gb to an ubuntu format and then install ubuntu on the 300gb. gparted doesnt detect the 3 hard drives to be in a raid 0 configuration, even with kparted addon installed.
[21:49] <Guest47682> i tried to install ubuntu already and the installation failed. the installation said ubuntu has experience an internal error; title: ubiquity crashed with KeyError in plugin_on_next_clicked(): 'use_device' executable path /usr/lib/ubiquity/bin/ubiquity
[21:49] <gordonjcp> settle down, dude
[21:49] <bobweaver> gordonjcp,  sorrry
[21:50] <escott> Guest47682, what raid controller
[21:50] <BKTech86> does anyone know how to add audio devices to alsa in precise?
[21:50] <levi_> sorrythanks
[21:51] <invariant> roezer, why would you do a new install?
[21:51] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/nautilus.jpg
[21:51] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: plug them in, and they are detected
[21:51] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: What exactly are you trying to do?
[21:51] <Guest47682> i have the Asus P8Z77-V Pro. would that be the Z77 chipset?
[21:51] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: I'm trying to use them in audio editing software
[21:51] <escott> !fakeraid | Guest47682
[21:51] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: but according to `aplay -l` they are not detected
[21:52] <invariant> roezer, you can install studio, edubuntu, ubuntu, kubuntu, etc. all at the same time.
[21:52] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: for other sound applications they work fine
[21:52] <escott> Guest47682, long and short is that what you have is not raid, probably wont work, and is not worth your time
[21:52] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: what is it?
[21:52] <Anternat> hi i have 10.04 server which i can only use ssh to access. I have lost access although it stays in the network when powered on.(Neither by hostname nor by ip). Happened after i did an install about security camera software. what are my options to gain access again?
[21:52] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: what is what?
[21:52] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: the sound device
[21:52] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: a bluetooth headset
[21:53] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: ah, I've never successfuly got one of those working
[21:53] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: it works
[21:53] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: yeah, you've had more luck with bluetooth than me
[21:53] <escott> Anternat, console access
[21:53] <gordonjcp> I have a bluetooth earpiece that works with my PS3 but nothing else, and I've no idea why not
[21:53] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: haha .. i dont understand why they made it such an iffy technology
[21:54] <bobweaver> gordonjcp, I see wht you are saying now maybe there is dbus setting ?
[21:54] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: you're familiar with the visibility/pairing process?
[21:54] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: *extremely* familiar
[21:54] <BKTech86> Anyone an alsa expert?
[21:54] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: more so than I could ever wish to be
[21:55] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: once you've gotten it to work, it's actually extremely convenient
[21:55] <Anternat> escott it is a standolone pc, no kb, no monitor, only the network cable connected to my modem port
[21:55] <BKTech86> any idea how i might be able to get this device to show up in the alsa list?
[21:55] <BKTech86> that why i can explicitly request it in my audio editing program?
[21:55] <escott> Anternat, then buy a keyboard and monitor
[21:56] <funkt> Hi there I just posted a question about getting bottom bar in unity to show folders etc I am still trying achieve this if anyone has any ideas this is what I am trying achieve http://i.stack.imgur.com/15F2g.jpg
[21:56] <Anternat> what else can i do ?
[21:56] <dr_willis> funkt:  looks like a frankenstein combo of gnome-classic running unity side panel.
[21:56] <escott> Anternat, yank the drive
[21:56] <bobweaver> gordonjcp,  what is org.gnome.desktop.media-handling
[21:56] <funkt> thats the one"
[21:56] <funkt> I love it!
[21:57] <funkt> any ideas?
[21:57] <bobweaver> gordonjcp, do you have dconf-tools installed ?
[21:57] <dr_willis> funkt:  use the various docks we reccomended.. they are very configurable
[21:57] <funkt> I wish i knew how to do that
[21:57] <dr_willis> install awn, use its themes
[21:57] <funkt> i tried cairo and that just gave me a docky thing with all my applications
[21:57] <OerHeks> gordonjcp,  i understand you want your camera open a specific program, i think that could be done with udev rules > http://www.linuxforu.com/2012/06/some-nifty-udev-rules-and-examples/
[21:58] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: hm, removing rhythmbox now makes it want to open in VLC
[21:58] <dr_willis> They are VERY configurable..
[21:58] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: no, I don't want it to open anything
[21:58] <funkt> not really like above how could I do it do you still suggest cairo?
[21:58] <bobweaver> gordonjcp,  there is also org.gnome.nautilus.desktop but I am not seeing anything in there
[21:58] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: I want the little bar that says "this is a digital camera, open everything in shotwell" in the nautilus window to go away
[21:59] <funkt> all I want to so is show my folders and which one i have open rather than scroll through the unity bar
[21:59] <Anternat> hi i have 10.04 server which i can only use ssh to access. I have lost access although it stays in the network when powered on.(Neither by hostname nor by ip). Happened after i did an install about security camera software. what are my options to gain access again?
[21:59] <dr_willis> gordonjcp:  i think i saw on askubuntu how to do thjat.
[21:59] <funkt> and sometimes loose it all together
[21:59] <bobweaver> ahh maybe org.gnome.nautilus.preferences
[21:59] <bobweaver> I think that that is it could be wrong google foo time
[21:59] <dr_willis> funkt:  you are using the term 'folders' to  mean 'open applications' ?
[21:59] <funkt> erm yeah
[22:00] <funkt> sorry keep referring to that
[22:00] <funkt> yes open applications on a smart bottom bar
[22:00] <dr_willis> funkt:  you can shrink the left side panel to show more icons if thats all you need.
[22:00] <funkt> would be ideal!
[22:00] <dr_willis> most every dock has some sort of 'windows-list' feature
[22:00] <funkt> no I just want to see what folders i have open rather than use unity side bar
[22:01] <funkt> http://i.stack.imgur.com/15F2g.jpg
[22:01] <funkt> just like that screenshot
[22:01] <dr_willis> that screen shot is not showing any open. ;)
[22:01] <funkt> ok well imagine it had some open
[22:01] <funkt> lol
[22:01] <dr_willis> the various docks normally have a 'dock' mode where they look like that
[22:02] <funkt> what docks?
[22:02] <dr_willis> !docks
[22:02] <funkt> sorry I just don't understad
[22:02] <dr_willis> the ones we mentioned earlier...
[22:02] <funkt> stand
[22:02] <funkt> I know you did
[22:02] <funkt> ....
[22:02] <dr_willis> cairo and avant-window-navibator have more features then most people ever need.
[22:03] <dr_willis> http://glx-dock.org/mc_album.php?a=3 cairo dock screen shots
[22:03] <funkt> I mean i used to use a terminal command and the bottom bar would appear and unity sidebar that was in a previous version
[22:03] <InspectorCluseau> plank works for me
[22:03] <funkt> you don't know of any hacks like that?
[22:04] <bobweaver> funkt,  if you like you can use gnome-classic and Unity 2d on top of each other
[22:04] <funkt> thats it!
[22:04] <funkt> thats what i want!
[22:04] <funkt> how do i do that?
[22:04] <funkt> lol
[22:04] <bobweaver> funkt,  you can also kill the pannel in Unity 2d
[22:05] <funkt> brilliant
[22:05] <dr_willis> I said to use the 2 together earlier.......
[22:05] <dr_willis> you said you dident want the gnome2 look.
[22:05] <escott> !pm | Guest47682
[22:05] <rbnswartz> bobweaver is unity 2d still under development?
[22:05] <funkt> how do i do this amazing thing?
[22:05] <escott> Guest47682, I've said all I'm going to say about fakeraid
[22:05] <dr_willis> unity2d is gone in 12.10
[22:05] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  buy some ;)
[22:05] <soundconjurer> For me, Unity needs to be optimized to run faster. That's my only complaint.
[22:05] <bobweaver> by*
[22:06] <Guest47682> ok, but the installer keeps failing and doesn't recognize a partition in any of my 3 hard drives
[22:06] <bobweaver> funkt,  what is lsb_release -c
[22:06] <bobweaver> funkt,  from terminal that is ^^^
[22:06] <funkt> what and add what is?
[22:06] <dr_willis> seems like a lot of work for just a app-switcher bar.. theres other app-switcher only bars in the repos i recall
[22:07] <bobweaver> funkt,  what version of ubuntu do you hve installed ?
[22:07] <funkt> or just "lsb_release -c"
[22:07] <bobweaver> have *
[22:07] <funkt> 12.04
[22:07] <bobweaver> thanks
[22:07] <dr_willis> !info fbpanel
[22:07] <Dougie187> Does anyone have a good feeling for how the crash report in ubuntu works?
[22:07] <bobweaver> funkt,  open terminal     sudo apt-get build-dep unity-2d
[22:09] <bobweaver> Dougie187,  it uses apport
[22:09] <bobweaver> Dougie187,  you are taling about woopsie ?
[22:09] <abraithwaite> Any networking experts here?
[22:09] <bobweaver> talking *
[22:09] <Dougie187> Is that what it's called?
[22:09] <abraithwaite> I'm having trouble with frequent disconnects
[22:09] <Dougie187> I'm not sure what it's called. but the thing that comes up to make a bug report when some program crashes.
[22:09] <Frostbyte> llutz : there?
[22:10] <bobweaver> Dougie187,  yeah that is it it is awesome what are questions ?
[22:10] <Dougie187> Do you know what it does?
[22:10] <Dave_Maydew> Hi, I have an issue with Unity 3D eating memory
[22:10] <bobweaver> !apport | Dougie187
[22:10] <bobweaver> er
[22:10] <Dave_Maydew> more in 64bit than 32bit
[22:11] <bobweaver> Dougie187,  ther is a GREAT little thing on You tube from the last day (thusday) that talks about what we are up to with that . It is big subject
[22:11] <rreedd4> typing df -h   should show all sda hard drive connected?  sda1 and sda2?
[22:11] <bobweaver> Dougie187, let me try and find link
[22:11] <Dougie187> I'm curious about something kind of weird.
[22:11] <funkt> Ok Bobweaver thanks! what do i do now?
[22:11] <escott> rreedd4, no. only mounted partitions
[22:12] <bobweaver> funkt,  install  gnome-shell
[22:12] <funkt> fbpanel looks just what i want too
[22:12] <xDesu> fdisk -l
[22:12] <Dave_Maydew> Is it a memory leak or another issue with Unity 3D?
[22:12] <abraithwaite> anyone know what could be causing this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/224403/frequent-disconnects-ubuntu-desktop-12-10-x64-intel-82579v-e1000e
[22:12] <funkt> how do i do that bobweaver?
[22:13] <funkt> sudo apt install gnome shell?
[22:13] <Dougie187> bobweaver: ok, so I was banned from Diablo 3 for hacking, and I didn't hack. So I'm trying to come up with a list of things that could be detected as violating the terms of use for Diablo 3.
[22:13] <bobweaver> !hacker | Dougie187
[22:13] <rreedd4> escott how do i see if sda1 and sda2 are connected?
[22:13] <Dougie187> :P I know.
[22:13] <Dougie187> I'm trying to determine if apport, when detecting a crash, could miscorrectly flag warden to think you're hacking.
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> rreedd4  you mean mounted?
[22:14] <rreedd4> yes
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> rreedd4  type mount
[22:14] <escott> rreedd4, are connected. if they exist they are connected
[22:14] <xDesu> !piracy|xDesu
[22:15] <xDesu> Well that answers that question.
[22:15] <xDesu> !piracy
[22:15] <xDesu> ah
[22:15] <Dougie187> bobweaver: does that seem... reasonable?
[22:16] <bobweaver> Dougie187,  I have no clue fin mr pittman all I know is that there is great I mean great great great progress in bug fixing because of woopsie
[22:16] <escott> xDesu, if you want to talk to the bot its best if you chat with it directly
[22:16] <funkt> anybody used fbpanel or ever got it to run?
[22:16] <BKTech86> can anyone help me get my bluetooth headphones to display as a device in alsa?
[22:16] <bobweaver> funkt,  you are missing the - in gnome-shell
[22:16] <funkt> oh cheers
[22:17] <Dougie187> bobweaver: sure. I think apport and woopsie are awesome. I'm just trying to figure out how much information they provide.
[22:17] <xDesu> escott I have no interest in talking to them, I just wanted to know how the bot works.
[22:17] <Dougie187> bobweaver: do you know if there's a way to force a bug report in apport/woopsie?
[22:17] <bobweaver> funkt,  there is more :)
[22:17] <funkt> bobweaver:sudo apt install gnome-shell?
[22:18] <xDesu> *apt-get
[22:18] <bobweaver> funkt,  here     apt://gnome-panel
[22:18] <bobweaver> funkt,  open that in browser
[22:18] <funkt> its already installed
[22:18] <funkt> thank you
[22:18] <bobweaver> sweet
[22:19] <Dougie187> bobweaver: do you know if there is a room dedicated to apport/woopsie developers?
[22:19] <axgb> Hi
[22:19] <bobweaver> funkt,  sounds like you are going to want to kill unity2d-pannel though because you want to run unity 2d and have old ffects right ?
[22:20] <escott> !launchpad | Dougie187
[22:20] <funkt> yeah basically unity and just an open application bar at the bottom
[22:20] <bobweaver> funkt, you have to kill unity panel 2x  like        killall unity-2d-pannel && killall unity-2d-pannel
[22:20] <funkt> ok if I kill them can i get them back?
[22:20] <bobweaver> funkt,  correct so you just want dash and launcher of Unity then
[22:20] <axgb> I have multiple desktop enviroments on my laptop, GNOME (the one i want to use) has a blue desktop background and windows are transparent and graphics really dont work What should I do?
[22:21] <bobweaver> funkt,  launch then again in terminal  unity-2d-pannel
[22:21] <bobweaver> funkt,  but it will cover up for gnome-pannel
[22:21] <bobweaver> but not the bottom one
[22:21] <funkt> ermm.... what I would like is unity and a bottom bar with whatever folders I have open at the bottom like the old gnome style
[22:22] <funkt> one at the top, bottom and unity on the side
[22:22] <axgb>  I have multiple desktop enviroments on my laptop, GNOME (the one i want to use) has a blue desktop background and windows are transparent and graphics really dont work, it is unusable. how do i fix it
[22:22] <bobweaver> funkt,  correct then that  would do that so you need to make sure when you sign in that you use gnome-session then after logging in open terminal and enter in unity-2d
[22:22] <bobweaver> that is it
[22:22] <escott> axgb, its an issue with your graphics card. what kind of card do you have
[22:23] <axgb> im just checking
[22:23] <funkt> oh i see so use those kill functions in the terminal?
[22:23] <bobweaver> funkt,  I mean unity2d can run off walyen for shakes
[22:23] <bobweaver> if configed right ^^
[22:23] <funkt> right
[22:23] <funkt> what does that mean sorry?
[22:24] <axgb> escott ATI radeon 9200
[22:24] <bobweaver> funkt,  unity 2d has three parts to it       unity-2d-shell  unity-2d-spreed unity-2d-pannel
[22:24] <bobweaver> funkt,  all 2 parts are run when you run unity-2d
[22:24] <bobweaver> er 3
[22:24] <funkt> you know what this is far too complicated
[22:24] <funkt> thanks for you help mate!
[22:24] <escott> axgb, what drivers are you using? open source or proprietary (suggestion would be the same in either case -- try the other)
[22:24] <funkt> honestly
[22:24] <dr_willis> funkt:  if you just want a bottom type panel.. use Lubuntu/Lxde ;)
[22:24] <funkt> I am just going to have to get comfortable with this
[22:24] <axgb> how do i check and how do i change
[22:25] <escott> axgb, what version of ubuntu?
[22:25] <bobweaver> funkt,  no probs if you like I was 2d dev I can make a dang bottom pannel in like 5 hours you can come back and find me if you like
[22:25] <axgb> lubuntu 12.04 32bit but i installed edubuntu and gnome, all works except gnome
[22:25] <funkt> dr_willis, bobweaver and all thanks so much for all the help!
[22:25] <dr_willis> funkt:  http://www.debianadmin.com/lubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-lts-beta-2-screenshots-gallery.html
[22:25] <escott> axgb, jockey-gtk
[22:25] <funkt> hahhaha!
[22:25] <funkt> seriously?
[22:25] <bobweaver> so that it is what you want . But I do have a wish list on amazon ;)
[22:26] <funkt> Ohhh i see
[22:26] <axgb> what is jockey-gtk?
[22:26] <funkt> lol
[22:26] <bobweaver> correct funkt  look at my youtube videos
[22:26] <dr_willis> axgb:  a tool to install addational drivers for some hardware
[22:26] <funkt> well honestly mate I'm sure it would be amazing thank you all the same!
[22:26] <escott> axgb, its a program for proprietary drivers
[22:26] <Dougie187> Does a core dump read ram?
[22:26] <jure> help, got fresh installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS.. got china simbols.. :( need engleash.. :(
[22:26] <funkt> thanks for the help!
[22:26] <Catbuntu> Hi
[22:26] <escott> Dougie187, yes
[22:26] <bobweaver> np have a good one funkt
[22:26] <axgb> shall i check it out and install some other driver?
[22:27] <Dougie187> So, if there is an application monitoring a section of ram, and apport tries to generate a core dump, would that look like you were trying to read the "jailed" section of ram?
[22:27] <dr_willis> axgb:  thats the tool normally used in 12.04 to get drivers for nvidia and ati cards and many wireless cards
[22:27] <axgb> okay
[22:27] <hyun_> Hi, are there many ppl use ubuntu in embedded system?
[22:28] <escott> Dougie187, i think core dumps are triggered by the kernel. i dont think apport does anything to cause the core dump
[22:28] <dr_willis> in 12.10 you get to it from the 'software-sources' tool - it has its own tab
[22:28] <axgb> shall i sudo apt-get install jockey-jtk
[22:28] <dr_willis> axgb:  its installed allready in 12.04
[22:28] <dr_willis> and in that other app in 12.10
[22:28] <escott> axgb, it is probably already installed. run it like you would any other program
[22:28] <Dougie187> escott: the wiki says that apport uses "cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern |/usr/share/apport/apport %p %s %c" to get a core dump
[22:29] <bobweaver> funkt,  here is some work that I did for Ubuntu Christians Though i am *NOT* a christian   just like to code :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po8nqy1PP_U
[22:29] <bobweaver> tat is all untiy 2d
[22:30] <escott> Dougie187, if you look at that /proc/sys file it is describing to the kernel what it should do when it makes a core dump. you could change that to create a core dump file
[22:31] <Dougie187> escott: ok. it's not actually getting a core dump? I'm kind of confused. :P
[22:31] <funkt> hey bobweaver: thats exactly it very nice I have to say!
[22:31] <axgb> a rogram called "additional drivers" popped up, is that it?
[22:31] <funkt> and there you have the bottom bar!
[22:32] <escott> Dougie187, the kernel sees the program do something it should and triggers a GPF. the kernel initiates the core dump and passes the output to the command specified in /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern. the kernel does the memory read. apport is involved after the fact as the kernel feeds it data
[22:32] <escott> axgb, yes
[22:32] <escott> Dougie187, if that file were empty it would probably disable core dumps
[22:32] <Dougie187> escott: ok, so can anything else detect the memory read?
[22:32] <escott> Dougie187, but check the man pages on that file
[22:33] <Dougie187> ok
[22:33] <axgb> it says "no proprietry drivers are in use on your system"
[22:33] <escott> Dougie187, i dont know how something "detects a memory read" is this a hardware feature or are you running something in valgrind
[22:33] <Dougie187> It's not my software. :P It's Blizzards Warden
[22:34] <axgb> escott: what do i do? i have it open, it says "no propartitiory drivers are in use"
[22:34] <bobweaver> funkt,  just start unity-2d after you log into gnome throw back or whatever it is called  just type unity-2d into a termianl
[22:34] <escott> Dougie187, there have been a lot of complaints about blizzard blocking people out of games just because they use linux. Blizzard doesnt seem to care
[22:34] <jure> help!!! please catch me on private if someone has an ideo over this issue -> full language support was impossible to install
[22:34] <jure> [Errno 2] No usable temporary directory found in ['/tmp', '/var/tmp', '/usr/tmp', '/'] -> my ubuntu 12.04 LTS is getting china symbols???
[22:35] <escott> axgb, try enabling the prop drivers. might be better, might be worse, probably will be different
[22:35] <Dougie187> escott: yeah, I'm one of them. I'm trying to figure out why they might have banned me so I can get them to reproduce it. :P
[22:35] <axgb> where do i go to enable it?
[22:35] <escott> axgb, that application should allow you to install those drivers
[22:35] <axgb> there is an enable button, it is grey
[22:36] <escott> axgb, you need to run that program with gksudo then. it should have prompted you for the password, not sure why it didn't. in terminal run "gksudo jockey-gtk"
[22:36] <aboudreault> Do you know that error? g++-4.6.real: error: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/crti.o: No such file or directory
[22:36] <aboudreault>  
[22:36] <jure> C
[22:36] <jure> C.UTF-8
[22:36] <jure> ja_JP.utf8
[22:36] <jure> POSIX
[22:36] <jure> sl_SI.utf8
[22:37] <FloodBot1> jure: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:37] <jure> zh_CN.utf8
[22:39] <TheShamanoid> hey ubuntu developers
[22:39] <TheShamanoid> just wanted to say that the ubuntu font is one of the most amazing fonts i ever used
[22:39] <TheShamanoid> cheers
[22:39] <axgb> its the same with gksudo, it just says" no proparitory drivers in use", a few empty boxes, and at the bottem a grey(cant be clicked) enable button
[22:40] <crackerjackz> for some reason terminal in xfce doesn't render any text, it's just a blank black background when i open the terminal
[22:40] <escott> axgb, it may be your card is too new to be supported by the prop drivers
[22:41] <axgb> that is not possible, it is a few years old
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> crackerjackz  maybe both foreground and background are black, check the profile settinngs (colors)
[22:42] <crackerjackz> axgb: what are you trying to do?
[22:42] <escott> axgb, you can also try to install via apt-get install fglrx
[22:43] <subman> How can I be sure that my nvidia drivers are actually running?  Within my bug report, I notice that it says:  NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use) in several places
[22:43] <escott> subman, glxinfo | grep -i renderer
[22:43] <axgb> crackerjackerz : i am trying to get gnome to work, the graphics are not working, it is blue and only shows outlines of windows, works c**p
[22:43] <crackerjackz> MonkeyDust: you're a genius, thanks man :)
[22:44] <crackerjackz> axgb: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[22:44] <axgb> ATI radeon 9200
[22:45] <crackerjackz> i used to have that card.. 128 mb right?
[22:45] <subman> escott, OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6200/PCI/SSE2
[22:45] <axgb> not sure, i think so
[22:45] <subman> escott, that does not tell me which driver is in use though
[22:45] <crackerjackz> axgb: they had two different ones i believe.. one was 128mb and the other was 256 mb
[22:45] <escott> subman, i would think that means the nvidia drivers, but i dont use nvidia so i cant be sure
[22:45] <crackerjackz> thats an old school card
[22:46] <axgb> i know, its a fairly old laptop
[22:46] <crackerjackz> i used to play doom 3 on it
[22:46] <escott> crackerjackz, did ati/amd at some point start renumbering cards. i thought they were pretty consistent in "higher is newer"
[22:46] <crackerjackz> escott: i'm not too sure actually
[22:46] <crackerjackz> axgb: but what version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:47] <axgb> lubuntu 12.04
[22:47] <Faceless> I'm going to buy a new laptop, I'm gonna run Ubuntu on it. I want an SSD, ~13" display and as low price as possible, do you guys have any recommendations?
[22:47] <escott> !hcl | Faceless
[22:47] <dr_willis> system76 - sells ubuntu preinstalled laptops ;)
[22:47] <LordThumper> Hi
[22:48] <subman> escott for future reference, I would grep 'OpenGL version string'.  It revealed the driver.
[22:48] <axgb> one very quick recommendation, faceless, DO NOT get a OCZ ssd as they are very unreliable
[22:48] <jdk> hi, where is #12p  ??????????????
[22:48] <dr_willis> Theres that new chromebook out for lik $250 you can put ubuntu on also. :)
[22:48] <LordThumper> Would a driver module compiled for x86 work on a x64 bit Ubuntu installation?
[22:48] <escott> subman, renderer says it for intel so thats what i always look at
[22:48] <crackerjackz> axgb: do you have the ati catylist control center installed?
[22:48] <souhaib> hi
[22:48] <Faceless> axqb, Noticed. :P
[22:48] <crackerjackz> catalyst*
[22:48] <Faceless> Noted*
[22:48] <jdk> hi, where is #12p  ???????????  i am using Xchat
[22:49] <axgb> my brother lost all his university work due to a wretched OCZ hard drive. Any members on IRC who have one, make a backup, it WILL fail soon.
[22:49] <k1l> jdk: better ask in #freenode
[22:49] <Faceless> ouch
[22:49] <axgb> ive installed fgrlx, what do i do now>
[22:50] <subman> Anyone running a GeForce 6200 successfully with acceptable opengl framerates?
[22:50] <dr_willis> reboot axgb
[22:50] <OerHeks> axgb please don't hoax, one failure is not going to happen to all of us.
[22:50] <jdk> k1l: thanks :P
[22:50] <axgb> no, it said all over the internet that it was very unreliable (according to him)
[22:51] <crackerjackz> if you're still able to mount the drive might be able to recover some of the files with testdisk or photorec
[22:51] <axgb> should i reboot and then what? because the IRC connection will have been ended
[22:51] <crackerjackz> axgb: yeah reboot
[22:52] <escott> axgb, flash drives in general have poor failure modes (sudden and complete)
[22:54] <himawijaya> test
[22:55] <bastidrazor> 1 2, 1 2
[22:55] <guntbert_> himawijaya: not here please
[22:55] <TheLordOfTime> !test | himawijaya
[22:55] <grimeton> testicles ... one ... two ...
[22:55] <gordonjcp> grimeton: get back onto 16kHz, you
[22:55] <himawijaya> sorry
[22:56] <bastidrazor> Ham it up
[22:56] <bobweaver> TheLordOfTime,  you are here no Fear me stuff ? :)
[22:56] <himawijaya> i just installed ubuntu 12.10
[22:56] <bobweaver> always makes me chuckle TheLordOfTime
[22:57] <axgb> i am back and i have restarted and installed thing you said
[22:57] <serp_> axgb: np, just tell him to restore it from his backup
[22:57] <axgb> what, the SSD, he did no backups
[22:58] <serp_> no backups?
[22:58] <axgb> after hearing that they are "super tough and very reliable harddrive techbology"
[22:58] <serp_> i'm glad it failed then, hope he learned his lesson
[22:58] <bobweaver> serp ....
[22:58] <silverfix> hello
[22:58] <escott> axgb, the problem isnt the hardware. its the firmware. until that matures you should be very wary of SSDs
[22:59] <axgb> i restarted and now when i boot into gnome it goes into gnome classic, can i get full gnome>
[22:59] <axgb> *?
[22:59] <escott> axgb, sounds like it likes the fglrx drivers even less than the open source. you may just want to buy a newer card
[23:00] <axgb> can i fix the drivers, its a old-ish laptop, i dont really want do be taking it apart and fitting cards
[23:00] <escott> axgb, they dont even make cards for laptops so...
[23:01] <axgb> there is a sticker on the laptop saying ATI radeon 9200
[23:01] <axgb> i assumed it is correct, the default installed benchmark software said nothing
[23:01] <axgb> but are there any alternatives i can use
[23:02] <axgb> i assumed the sticker is correct
[23:04] <crackerjackz> axgb: does it work from the live cd?
[23:04] <axgb> *sorry, its the mobility radeon 9200, it said on wikipedia that that is used in laptops
[23:04] <axgb> i dont know about live cd, i installed from CD-RW live cd and then deleted it
[23:05] <crackerjackz> axgb: do you have the ati catalyst control center installed?
[23:05] <axgb> this is ubuntu, im not sure about that
[23:06] <escott> axgb, thats an almost 10 year old card. time to start thinking about upgrading
[23:06] <crackerjackz> i used to use that card on gentoo i had the ati catalyst control center installed
[23:06] <axgb> gosh, i thought it was 7 years
[23:06] <crackerjackz> was for the desktop though
[23:07] <axgb> though the laptops motherboard was upgraded, im not sure whether the graphics card was as well, whether the sticker was wrong
[23:07] <escott> axgb, it was released in 2003. it would ship in devices for a couple years, but the chip itself is old old old
[23:08] <escott> axgb, you changed the motherboard on a laptop. who does that? check sudo lshw -C video
[23:09] <axgb> it runs unity fine, it runs lxde fine (of course) it runs gnome classic fine, is there something fundamentally different about gnome 3 - isn't it very simiar to  unity
[23:09] <crackerjackz> axgb: run the command escott gave you
[23:10] <axgb>   *-display UNCLAIMED             description: VGA compatible controller        product: M9+ 5C61 [Radeon Mobility 9200 (AGP)]        vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0        version: 01        width: 32 bits        clock: 66MHz        capabilities: agp agp-2.0 pm vga_controller cap_list        configuration: latency=66 mingnt=8        resources: memory:d8000000-df
[23:10] <axgb> yes the sticker is correct
[23:10] <crackerjackz> next time use a pastebin
[23:10] <axgb> gosh, i thought it was like 5 years old, not ten
[23:10] <noiro> Is there a way to compress files as a .zip?
[23:11] <crackerjackz> its and old school card i remember playing doom 3 when it first came out on that card
[23:11] <escott> axgb, you might have bought it more recently, but the age of the chip is counted from when it is first released not from the last device to ship with it
[23:11] <axgb> okay
[23:11] <escott> axgb, if you pay them enough to make it profitable they will print something from the 70s doesn't make it a new chip though
[23:11] <axgb> but will it work with gnome - if gnome is too (whatever) for it, can you tell me
[23:12] <trism> noiro: in nautilus, right click the file/folder, choose Compress... and select .zip in the dropdown
[23:12] <escott> axgb, its not going to work well. paradoxically you might do better with 12.10 or 13.04 (when that is released)
[23:12] <escott> axgb, the gnome team has done some work to improve the software rendering when the hardware is not good enough
[23:13] <axgb> when it did work, and was transparent and did some crap, it did not lagg or anything
[23:13] <crackerjackz> axgb: does jockey show any other drivers for your card?
[23:13] <Qwertba55> #ubuntu-beginners
[23:14] <axgb> no, jockey does absolutely nothing
[23:14] <LordThumper> Sorry for asking again
[23:14] <escott> axgb, sorry i lead you astray there. i thought 9200 meant the card was newer
[23:14] <LordThumper> But would x86 driver modules (.ko) work on a x64 installation?
[23:14] <axgb> no, some other person said it was from 2003
[23:14] <crackerjackz> axgb: it is
[23:15] <axgb> should i give up and just use unity and gnomeclassic
[23:15] <LordThumper> Or do I need to recompile?
[23:15] <axgb> or is there something else i should do
[23:16] <phax> HI guys I am on Ubuntu 12.0.4 and am using a router which gets the DNS from the ISP. Everytime Ubuntu starts up the /etc/resolv.conf the nameserver entries are missing. If i kill and restart dhclient the entries are present...how do I fix it?
[23:16] <axgb> ok goodbye i think i will stick with gnome classic, lxde and unity.
[23:17] <crackerjackz> i was gonna help him but he gave up
[23:17] <RickZilla> ubuntu 12.10, is there a way to remove all of the non-western fonts that come with the default install, without removing them one by one in the software center?
[23:17] <WeThePeople> hi anybody know the command to start chrome?
[23:17] <grimeton> RickZilla: open a terminal and use apt-get
[23:18] <grimeton> WeThePeople: chrome
[23:18] <RickZilla> grimeton: I know how to use a terminal, just don't know the apt-get commands to remove them
[23:18] <RickZilla> I was hoping to do it graphically
[23:18] <grimeton> RickZilla: list the installed packages: dpkg -l
[23:19] <grimeton> RickZilla: grep the fonts packages that are non western dpkg -l | grep non-western-font-packages
[23:19] <grimeton> RickZilla: return the 2nd column: dpkg -l | grep non-western-font-packages | awk '{print $2}'
[23:19] <almoxarife> RickZilla: use synaptic, search for fonts, delete the fonts
[23:19] <RickZilla> k, I'll try that. What is grep?
[23:19] <grimeton> RickZilla: and remove them apt-get remove $(dpkg -l | grep non-western-font-packages | awk '{print $2}')
[23:19] <grimeton> RickZilla: yeah, use synaptic...
[23:19] <RickZilla> almoxarife: I'm not sure 12.10 can use synaptic like that
[23:20] <almoxarife> RickZilla: of course it can
[23:20] <soundconjurer> Yeah, Synaptic can in 12.10
[23:20] <RickZilla> When I try to install something in 12.10 using synaptic, the "apply" button is greyed out
[23:20] <phax> ls
[23:21] <almoxarife> grimeton: why would 'grep' find a 'non-western......' , you seen that?
[23:21] <soundconjurer> I have tried everything to Dual Boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.04 and also tried 12.10 with UEFI hardware. *sigh*
[23:21] <grimeton> almoxarife: it's a placeholder
[23:22] <RickZilla> Synaptic doesn't work for me...I must be seeing something you're not
[23:22] <grimeton> it says:"Crystall ball auditions are delayed because of unforseeable incidents"
[23:22] <almoxarife> RickZilla: operator error
[23:23] <IOmegaZ> hi everyone
[23:23] <RickZilla> almoxarife: I've used synaptic quite a bit in the past...this is a new install, for some reason the apply button is greyed out...no need to assume that first
[23:23] <almoxarife> RickZilla: you are not using synaptic with admin permission, try it from terminal, 'gksu synaptic'
[23:23] <RickZilla> almoxarife: I'll try that
[23:25] <crackerjackz> i think i found the answer to my sound problem but will someone help me understand what it means? this guy on the forums says.. I figured out the issue. Apt-get upgrade had installed pulseaudio-esound-compat:i386, and removed pulseaudio-esound-compat. Apparently pulseaudio won't start when that package is missing. You'd think it would be a dependency or something.
[23:25] <phax> any ideas guys ?
[23:25] <RickZilla> almoxarife: That did the trick, I'll copy that command for future use...I much prefer synaptic to the software center
[23:25] <RickZilla> thanks for the help
[23:26] <almoxarife> RickZilla: :)
[23:28] <almoxarife> RickZilla: btw, you should leave then fonts, some sites will look like swiss cheese without them
[23:28] <crackerjackz> hrmm no that's not my problem.. i have pulseaudio-esound-compat installed..
[23:29] <almoxarife> crackerjackz: do you see 'pulseaudio' running?
[23:32] <psusi> I'm trying to figure out why when I plug in my headphones, the sound stops coming out of the speakers and only comes out of the headphones under 12.04, but not under 12.10 ( comes out both )
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> crackerjackz: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     wait 10 seconds and then retry sound
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> psusi: different alsa version, different kernel
[23:33] <psusi> ActionParsnip, I tried booting with the older kernel and it didn't seem to matter
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> psusi: weird. You may need an option in /etc/modprobe/alsa-base.conf    to make it load differently
[23:34] <psusi> so you think it's alsa not pulseaudio?
[23:34] <psusi> according to pacmd, the headphone port is selected for output, but it still comes out of the speakers too
[23:34] <Slagwag> apt-get install smbfs should install the smb packages right?
[23:35] <Slagwag> if i want to mount a network path in command line
[23:35] <Slagwag> i am trying to use CIFS but i got an error saying i am missing the wrong handler
[23:36] <Slagwag> but i read that cifs was the successor to SMB so i am now confused
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> psusi: try:     echo "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null         reboot to test
[23:36] <MonkeyDust> Slagwag  guess cifs is not for windows
[23:36] <MonkeyDust> Slagwag  cifs is similar to nfs
[23:36] <Slagwag> ah ok
[23:37] <Slagwag> now i did sapt-get install smbfs and i believe it installed but when i try to mount using smbfs
[23:37] <Slagwag> it fails and doesnt recognize it
[23:37] <RickZilla> almoxarife: Even non-western fonts, when I'm reading an English site?
[23:37] <steph__> i have spent most of the afternoon trying to install mythtv without any luck - anyone willing to try to help me?
[23:37] <steph__> i run backend set up and all i get is a black screen
[23:37] <Wipster> good evening, in hostapds setting whats the difference between supported_rates and basic_rates?
[23:37] <RickZilla> steph_: I think this is more of an ubuntu channel, is there a mythbuntu channel somewhere?
[23:38] <steph__> RickZilla, I don't know, but I'll dig around
[23:38] <almoxarife> steph__: see what the folk at #xbmc have to say
[23:39] <lucid> steph: try this link , it shows step by step how to install mythtv  --->  http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php
[23:39] <Elladan> So, how do I set up encrypted swap in the 12.10 installer?
[23:40] <Elladan> Because I went into the manual partitioner, and set up an encrypted volume.
[23:40] <Elladan> And then it hard errored out and crashed because I had normal swap.
[23:40] <doomlord> gnome-classic: Is there a way to bring up panel options when you can't see any bare panel pixels? (i can only click on window list,launchers, etc). i tried alt+RMB
[23:41] <Elladan> ... but there is no option to create encrypted swap.  Or layer LVM on top of encryption.  Also if you create an encrypted partition you have to reboot the installer to edit it.
[23:41] <doomlord> maybe there's something in settings menu for it, or a textfile?
[23:41] <frustro> hi all, 2 server 12.04 on 2 vps's.  I remembered 11.04 had "install ubuntu cloud" now it's MAAS that requires hardware.  There there something I'm missing? or would cloud never have worked on a vps?
[23:42] <Catbuntu> Hi
[23:43] <lucid> doomlord: just Alt-Right click
[23:44] <doomlord> seems to only ever bring up options for the particular gadget under the cursor (eg 'edit -menu', preferences for window list/desktops..)
[23:46] <phax> hi lucid
[23:46] <lucid> hey phax
[23:46] <doomlord> i guess i'll have to remove some objects to access the underlying panel
[23:46] <phax> can you assist me with a question on how resolv.conf is generated on Ubuntu 12.0.4
[23:46] <phax> I am on Ubuntu 12.0.4 and am using a router which gets the DNS from the ISP. Everytime Ubuntu starts up the /etc/resolv.conf the nameserver entries are missing. If i kill and restart dhclient the entries are present...how do I fix it?
[23:47] <lucid> phax: i will try
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Elladan: there are issues with hibernate and encrypted swap if memory serves
[23:49] <IT-L> how i config my BIOS to boot ubunto from my usb flash disk?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> phax: you can add things using  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base      those get  added when DHCP completes
[23:50] <blackshirt> it-l, your board should have support to boot from usb
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> IT-L: press F11 (usually) and you can select the USB to boot
[23:51] <IT-L> my board support USB-zip & USB-HDD
[23:51] <lucid> phax: you have a message
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> IT-L: try USB HDD
[23:51] <IT-L> ok, thanks
[23:52] <IT-L> I try...
[23:56] <Elladan> ActionParsnip, that might be true, but the installer both requires and seems to have no option for it...
[23:57] <Elladan> ActionParsnip, hibernate is not really something I care about, in any case.
[23:58] <juanlas> hi all, I just installed 12.10 desktop on VMware player in Win7 and it's kind of sluggish. I've got 2 cores and 4gb of RAM available for the VM. any ideas why it might be sluggish?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> Elladan: I don't use encryptfs, I think it causes too many headaches. If you don't use hibernate then rock the party :)
[23:58] <Elladan> ActionParsnip, O
[23:58] <psusi> ActionParsnip, nope, that didn't do it
[23:58] <mr-rich> Has anyone here migrated from Evolution 3.2.x to Thunderbird?
[23:58] <Elladan> ActionParsnip, I'm using dm-crypt not that stacked fs thing.
[23:58] <IOmegaZ> anyone know hoe to install xgl?
[23:59] <mr-rich> juanlas: try using Virtualbox from Oracle ...
[23:59] <IOmegaZ> anyone know hoe to install xgl?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> psusi: ok, remove the line from the file
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> !info xgl
[23:59] <Elladan> ActionParsnip, so I gave up on trying to make the partitioner sane and just hit the automatic partition button with the requisite options.  It seems to have decided to create LVM on top of dm-crypt with swap on top of LVM.