[00:21] <humberto310> #linux
[00:21] <humberto310> yoooo
[00:39] <designbybeck__> Greetings cool kids! I have a new Kubuntu 12.10 install on a random low end system hooked via VGA to a 40" TV. The Ubuntu and LinuxMint Cinnoman install I had would let me change the resolution so that it fit better on the TV, however the Kubuntu display settings don't have a many options and/or the highest setting they have is slightly shifted over to the right and It is chopping off part of the image
[00:39] <designbybeck__> Any ideas??
[00:56] <fyksen> Hey! I'm trying to install Kubuntu in virtualbox on ubuntu 12.10. But I get stuck on "Retrieving file 43 of 105 10%. I have downloaded 2 isos. One from Torrent, one form webserver. Any tips? :)
[00:57] <designbybeck__> not sure on that on fyksen... i've had success doing both ways
[00:57] <designbybeck__> running ubuntu 12.10 on my netbook right now i'm chatting on. and kubuntu 12.10 on my TV display, i'm still setting up
[00:58] <Catbuntu> fyksen, check the md5 sums
[00:58] <fyksen> Catbuntu, I have done it, and it the same : )
[00:58] <Catbuntu> !md5 | fyksen
[00:58] <Catbuntu> Ow
[00:58] <fyksen> designbybeck_, cool :) Hmms, IDK what to do : ) Maybe I'l try to run it on HW
[00:58] <fyksen> Catbuntu, Hehe, I learned about Md5 last week or so :p
[00:59] <Catbuntu> then disable the option of download updates while installing
[00:59] <Catbuntu> and update after the install
[00:59] <designbybeck__> fyksen: can you bun the ISO to a USB and try a live boot off it? maybe it is your VM that is messed up
[01:01] <fyksen> designbybeck_, I don't get the error before after I have formatted the hdd. Don't want to do that..
[01:01] <fyksen> Sorry about my English btw. 2nd. language
[01:03] <Catbuntu> Oh your english is better than some english people's :P
[01:04] <fyksen> Haha, Thanks Catbuntu  :)
[01:10] <fyksen> Ahh sorry guys. Tried booting in to "try kubuntu" now. I don't get any internet on my VM :/
[02:12] <wahyu> help please, i just finished install kubuntu quantal, and i after i set the anti aliasing font, my fonts look ugly now..
[02:13] <wahyu> and i cant find the default-previous font setting
[02:14] <wahyu> the default is ugly, its not the default setting after install (i think..)
[02:15] <wahyu> ah.. nevermind
[02:29] <BluesKaj> !mediatomb
[02:34] <Dangerous> Greetings! I had a few questions regarding installing Kubuntu 12.0.4 LTS and was wondering if anyone here could help me out a bit?
[06:49] <calcmandan> hi. is there a game i should load to see if 3d video acceleration is working on my new kubuntu install?
[06:49] <calcmandan> recommended game or app.
[07:04] <thelionroars> try a first person shooter
[07:04] <thelionroars> xonotic.org is a good one
[07:04] <thelionroars> www.xonotic.org
[07:04] <thelionroars> there is also Warsow and Urban Terror
[07:05] <thelionroars> If you go with Urban Terror, download 4.1.1, 4.2 is still buggy
[07:12] <bitcrusher> I can't change the default kde wm to awesome wm, i tried to follow this guide http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/KDE_and_awesome
[07:17] <bitcrusher> there doesn't appear to be the ksmserver folder
[07:21] <IndiaMotel> hell9o
[07:37] <IndiaMotel> Hello! Is there anyone online?
[07:38] <IndiaMotel> whois IndiaMotel
[07:39] <msangapu> lol
[07:39] <IndiaMotel> haha I'm new to this as you can clearly see
[07:40] <worm> !help | IndiaMotel
[07:40] <msangapu> !patience
[07:43] <msangapu> anyone have a torrent for libreoffice
[07:43] <IndiaMotel> I tried installing Kubuntu 12.0.4 LTS 64bit version on my box on an empty drive... installation hangs at 33% trying to partition/install /ext4 has anyone had this issue?
[07:56] <IndiaMotel> msg /msangapu Thanks for your advice, Ill try a memtest on my ram overnight and see if anything comes up thank-you!
[08:12] <calcmandan> is there a way to install dotnet 2.0 via winetricks on a 64 bit system? it keeps stating that it won't run on a 64bit system.
[09:48] <cancer> hi
[10:31] <cjae> how do I fix full screen flash from showing up on the wrong screen/monitor, using the nouveau driver and the properitary flash
[10:39] <adhominem> hi all
[10:48] <adhominem> kubuntu permanent livecd runs too slowly on my p4 3gh 3gb ram with radeon (nomodeset was required)
[10:48] <adhominem> is it due to permanency or is cuz my system is 2 slow 2 handle kubuntu?
[10:49] <lordievader> adhominem: Have you tried installing it to the harddisk? It has been my experience that a live cd is quite slow. However your system seems to be quite old, this could play a part in this, kde is considered heavy on resources.
[10:50] <adhominem> nope, lordievader
[10:50] <lordievader> adhominem: Worth a shot, I'd say.
[10:50] <adhominem> but 4 ex. gentoo distro runs pretty fine from livedvd usb
[10:51] <adhominem> even with kds
[10:51] <adhominem> kde*
[10:51] <lordievader> adhominem: On the same system?
[10:51] <adhominem> yup
[10:52] <lordievader> adhominem: Hmm, could also be missing drivers. You could see if the jockey can find some drivers.
[10:52] <adhominem> i bet thats the problem, radeon drivers are a pain in the 4$$
[10:52] <adhominem> had to boot with nomodeset due to that
[10:53] <adhominem> in gentoo pressing ctrl+alt+f1 gets me into some weird screen where ascii characters are missing and wrong
[10:54] <adhominem> while pressing ctrlaltf7 gets me back to a normal perfect good looking kde envir.
[10:54] <lordievader> adhominem: Video drivers in general are a pita.
[10:54] <adhominem> ;)
[10:54] <adhominem> agree
[10:54] <lordievader> adhominem: ctrl alt f{1-6} are tty's the rest are xsessions.
[11:00] <adhominem> yup
[11:00] <adhominem> thast why i find weird that even witha full enviroment like kde and terminals on it work fine, tty is messed up :S
[11:03] <lordievader> adhominem: You could ask around in #gentoo if the problem is still relevant.
[11:05] <adhominem> yup im doing
[11:05] <Tm_T> lordievader: adhominem: the resources isn't the issue with that kind of setup
[11:06] <Tm_T> there's more than enough cpu and ram
[11:06] <adhominem> ye, i think whats giving me those weird problems is the gpu
[11:07] <adhominem> i had been reading stuff about compatibility issues on radeon all night
[11:07] <adhominem> on ati, in general, really
[11:07] <Tm_T> adhominem: what happens if you press alt+shift+F12 (that IIRC is the shortcut for switching desktop acceleration on and off)
[11:07] <lordievader> Tm_T: Correct :)
[11:08] <adhominem> in gentoo, the os its currently running, nothing noticeable
[11:08] <adhominem> oh wait you mean on tty?
[11:09] <adhominem> something happened switched from that wicked glitched ascii screen to a full black one
[11:09] <lordievader> adhominem: No he means your kubuntu live setup, the one that is running slowly.
[11:09] <adhominem> with blinking cursors
[11:09] <adhominem> oh 4 that ill need to reboot
[11:09] <adhominem> sec
[11:10] <adhominem> hey on gentoo now a mouse cursor appears on ascii :P :)
[11:10] <adhominem> lil progress but still progress somewhat
[11:10] <adhominem> ok im rewooting
[11:12] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[11:12] <adhominem> ok right now im on kubuntu 1st boot menu
[11:12] <adhominem> where ill choose persistent mode with nomodeset to avoid crash
[11:12] <adhominem> ill try pers b4 installing on hd ;P
[11:16] <adhominem> kde started
[11:17] <adhominem> alt shift f12 do nothing on 1st sight
[11:18] <adhominem> but when i switch between tty and kde it replaces cool lights effect for black
[11:18] <adhominem> i still get a weird feeling of hmm low performance
[11:19] <adhominem> would it be faster on livecd instead persistent?
[11:19] <lordievader> adhominem: Open the system settings -> desktop effects -> advanced and change the render type to xrender (instead of opengl).
[11:20] <lordievader> Err compositing type.
[11:20] <adhominem> its on xrend already; will try opengl
[11:21] <lordievader> adhominem: Hmm so it uses the cpu already, instead of the gfx card, for the effects...
[11:22] <adhominem> tried on both native and roaster or wathever
[11:22] <adhominem> i still get that weird feeling when moving windows arround
[11:23] <adhominem> would it be faster on livecd?
[11:23] <adhominem> i dont wanna risk the time of a full insta before trying if performance would be ok ;P
[11:24] <lordievader> adhominem: I understand that, does the jockey give you a driver you could install?
[11:25] <adhominem> sec lemme check
[11:27] <adhominem> im trying live mode for performance check
[11:29] <adhominem> jockey is schearching; says no prop drivers are in use
[11:30] <adhominem> ill try a diff approach
[11:30] <adhominem> brb ;>
[11:47] <persia> I just started using kubuntu, and have some questions.  Firstly, is there a terminal emulator like Terminator?  I understand quadkonsole's author switched to terminator, but don't seem to be able to find anything else taking up the banner.
[11:47] <persia> Secondly, every time I try to add a widget to my desktop, my session crashes: is there some way to report this usefully?
[11:48] <persia> And thirdly, I don't seem to be able to get iBus working for Japanese input: is there known-good documentation somewhere?  Searching the web keeps showing ancient bug reports.
[12:03] <lordievader> persia: Konsole is a nice terminal emulator, what is exactly the problem with Ibus? Got it running here myself, works fine with Japanese.
[12:06] <persia> lordievader: Konsole is indeed nice, but I don't like the interaction between screen splits and tabs - perhaps just a personal preference.
[12:07] <persia> Re: iBus: pressing 半角/全角 doesn't switch my input mode with ibus-anthy.  Do I need to so something special for setup beyond installation of ibus-anthy?
[12:08] <lordievader> persia: You could use byobu/screen to take care of the screen splits.
[12:08] <persia> Indeed, or tmux inside konsole.  I'll just leave that for another project :)
[12:09] <lordievader> persia: I'm sorry pressing what? Let me check what packages I have installed here.
[12:10] <persia> hankaku/zenkaku: it's the key usually between "escape" and "tab" on jp106 keyboards.  In practice, I'm really pressing the かな key on a Mac keyboard that sends "Hangul", but that's not an important detail :)
[12:11] <lordievader> persia: Ah I see, anyhow I have the following packages installed: ibus ibus-anthy ibus-qt4 and a few others but I do not think they are necessary.
[12:13] <lordievader> persia: How did you setup ibus?
[12:13] <persia> `apt-get --no-install-recommends install ibus-qt4 ibus-anthy`
[12:14] <lordievader> persia: I mean the settings, not how you installed it :P
[12:14] <persia> I ran ibus-setup, but it won't let me select anthy ("Japanese is greyed-out").
[12:15] <lordievader> persia: I had the same problem, the solution is annoyingly simple, click the arrow next to japanese, it unfolds and select Anthy.
[12:17] <persia> Wow.  That is indeed *annoyingly* simple.  Now I get the A5 icon on my panel.
[12:18] <lordievader> persia: That should mean that japanese input is enabled.
[12:19] <persia> Unfortunately, it seems not to respond to keypresses yet.  I'll try restarting the session, as attempting to restart individual applications to test hasn't been successful.
[12:23] <persia> No, that didn't work either, and re-running ibus-setup reported that ibus hadn't been started in the session.  Playing around a bit got me all input in katakana based on the kana keymapings (dunno why), but not normal anthy.
[12:23] <lordievader> persia: Did you start ibus?
[12:23] <persia> How did you configure it.
[12:23] <persia> Yes.
[12:24] <persia> Although it would likely be better if I wasn't starting it per-session.
[12:25] <lordievader> persia: To start off I use ctl + space to enable it. Under the general tab I believe I didn't change anything, under the input method I got only Japanes - Anthy and "Customize active input methods" is ticked. Under advanced both options are ticked.
[12:26] <persia> Your setup matches mine.  Seems the kana comes from the keyboard layout (switch with Ctrl+Alt+K), and so is unrelated.
[12:27] <persia> Oh, except Ctrl+Space also doesn't switch input :)
[12:27] <lordievader> persia: You said you use an actual Japanese keyboard? That could be the difference I simply use a qwerty keyboard.
[12:29] <persia> The hardware shouldn't make a difference.  In previous environments, I've used both US and JP qwerty and DE qwertz with anthy successfully.
[12:30] <lordievader> persia: I agree that it shouldn't.
[12:30] <persia> If you run `ps ax | grep ibus`, do you get "ibus-daemon --xim" or something else?
[12:32] <lordievader> persia: Among things: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1404519/
[12:33] <persia> That's the same as mine.  Hrm.
[12:33] <lordievader> persia: Also the other processes?
[12:33] <persia> Well, thanks a lot for confirming I should have it right.  I wonder which final bit is missing.
[12:33] <lordievader> persia: But do you also have the other processes running?
[12:34] <lordievader> persia: Because maybe the packages I deemed not important earlier are actually important...
[12:35] <persia> Yes, precisely the same list.
[12:36] <lordievader> persia: Hmm... I'm quite out of ideas here, sorry.
[12:37] <persia> No worries.  Thanks for the help.
[12:38] <lordievader> persia: No problem, hope you figure it out.
[12:52] <shadeslayer> persia: iirc Quintasan was working on input stuff ... so he might know
[12:53] <shadeslayer> as for terminator, there is no alternative afaik .... I just use window grouping with konsole
[12:54] <shadeslayer> and plasma crash, could you install dbg packages and report a bug upstream ?
[12:54] <shadeslayer> and if you're not on 4..9.3 , please upgrade to 4.9.3 :)
[12:55] <shadeslayer> its in quantal-proposed
[12:56] <persia> shadeslayer: So, even if I install the dbg packages, how can I capture useful information for the bug: my experience involves black screens and loss of current working set.
[13:08] <cjae> http://lifehacker.com/5912480/how-to-invert-your-browsers-colors-for-easier-reading-at-night
[13:15] <cjae> anyone hear know how to use krename well and would like to help me
[13:36] <simplew> whats the package that puts printer applet in plasma panel in system tray?
[13:38] <Shaan7> simplew: for me I got that icon just by plugging in my printer
[13:38] <Shaan7> didnt have to do any special setup
[13:38] <simplew> Shaan7: hows that related to what i asked
[13:39] <Shaan7> that ideally that should be already installed
[13:42] <simplew> Shaan7: i still dont get hows that related to what i asked
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:58] <cjae> BluesKaj: did you ever answer me yesterday by chance?
[13:59] <cjae> about the version of kde you saw an improvement of kio-slave in?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> cjae, it was on kubuntu 13.04 /KDE 4.9.8 , but i've since dropped testing it for other reasons and wiped the partition
[14:04] <cjae> BluesKaj: thats fine I was just wondering version thanks :-)
[14:05] <BluesKaj> the 3.7 kernel wasn't working and the 3.5 woudn't install the nvidia drivers
[14:06] <BluesKaj> I don't mind testing a new OS version but when it's that broken there's no point
[14:10] <cjae> yeah
[15:45] <Guest34217> hi all
[15:45] <thelionroars> hi
[15:48] <Guest34217> do u know what is the best Antivirus for KDE?
[15:48] <Tm_T> Guest34217: antivirus?
[15:48] <Tm_T> !antivirus | Guest34217
[15:48] <BluesKaj> !antivirus
[15:49] <Guest34217> o ok thx
[15:49] <Guest34217> new to Linux
[15:50] <magespawn> Guest21470: that is whar channels are for.
[15:50] <thelionroars> If you are sharing files with a Windows system, you can use clam AV to check them. But your linux system will always be fine
[16:09] <georges> ? how can I get Folder View plasma for directories to suppress the .desktop file extention like it does for ~/Desktop ? For example I created a Folder VIew for /usr/share/applications but it shows all the icons with [program].desktop
[16:18] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[16:35] <georges>  how can I get Folder View plasma for directories to suppress the .desktop file extention like it does for ~/Desktop ? For example I created a Folder VIew for /usr/share/applications but it shows all the icons with [program].desktop
[16:45] <RiotingPacifist> where are dbus security settigns defined and what is the recommended way of changing them? , having problems with plasma
[16:48] <georges> from the dbus man :: The standard systemwide and per-session message bus setups are configured in the files "/usr/local/etc/dbus-1/system.conf" and "/usr/local/etc/dbus-1/session.conf". These files normally <include> a system-local.conf or session-local.conf; you can put local overrides in those files to avoid modifying the primary configuration files.
[16:50] <RiotingPacifist> so there is no gui tool/guide to fix it?
[16:50] <RaphaelBarros> Hey guys, any idea how can I remove a something using muon without removing one specific thing that it says it will remove with the other package?
[16:51] <RaphaelBarros> I'm trying to unninstall the Game Binding of Isaac, but it insists that it needs to remove steam with it (wchi I don't know why, since the game wasn't installed using steam, linux or wine version)
[16:51] <cjae> Cant remember if I asked this here or not. Does anyone have a solution for full screen flash not showing up on the correct screen?
[16:52] <thelionroars> take over Adobe and rewrite the damn code :P
[16:52] <georges> cjae: is it showing up on your primary display?
[16:52] <cjae> georges: yes
[16:53] <georges> thats how it shoudl be, I remember fuxing with it a while ago trying to force it to go to other display but gave up
[16:53] <cjae> I want it to show up the tv instead where I full screened it from the browser
[16:53] <cjae> no that is not right
[16:55] <cjae> It has worked on and off in the past it used to be youtube too but that youtube has worked well for quite some time
[16:57] <cjae> it used to be if you opened the browser on the tv and maxed the window the full screen flash would appear on the monitor, so a workaround was to unmaximize browser then push full screen and it would show on the tv
[16:57] <cjae> but that does not work anymore
[17:18] <radham> hi
[17:20] <cjae> when krusader asks for kdesu can I point it kdesudo ?
[17:27] <georges> cjae: jsut add kdesu to the begining of the command string
[17:31] <georges> either rt-click the shortcut and go to properties or edit the [program].desktop file directly by changing "Exec=/path/to/program program %U" to "Exec=kdesu /path/to...."
[17:38] <lordievader> georges: You mean kdesudo instead of kdesu, kdesu doesn't exist anymore.
[17:38] <thelionroars> ?
[17:38] <thelionroars> kdesu works fine
[17:38] <thelionroars> even if it is just an alias
[17:39] <lordievader> thelionroars: What Vert are you running?
[17:39] <georges> lordievader: I still use kdesu
[17:39] <thelionroars> Vert?
[17:39] <lordievader> err version
[17:39] <thelionroars> 12.10
[17:39] <georges> using it now in 12.10
[17:39] <lordievader> Hmm, odd on my 12.04 installs kdesu doesn't exist. I know it did before...
[17:40] <thelionroars> it worked on 12.04 too
[17:40] <georges> if it dosent exist just add an alias to kdesudo
[17:41] <lordievader> It doesn't matter to me if it exists or not, just thought kdesu didn't exist in general anymore.
[17:41] <thelionroars> think of all those letters you don't have to type anymore
[17:42] <thelionroars> you may save whole minutes of your life
[17:42] <thelionroars> :P
[17:42] <lordievader> thelionroars: I rarely use it anyway, sudo is good enough for me :P
[17:45] <georges> except 'sudo' dosent work for .desktop files
[17:46] <lordievader> georges: It is good practice to use kdesu(do) for all kde graphical applications.
[17:46] <BluesKaj> lordievader, if you're launching a gui app from krunner or the konsole kdesudo is the best practice, otherwise there could be launch problems in the future
[17:46] <lordievader> BluesKaj: That is what I've just said ;)
[17:46] <BluesKaj> oh ?
[17:47] <lordievader> BluesKaj: 18:46 < lordievader> georges: It is good practice to use kdesu(do) for all kde graphical applications.
[17:47] <thelionroars> as in, no graphical applications are used
[17:47] <lordievader> thelionroars: Straight to the point!
[17:48] <georges> at this point i think we are all arguing the same point lol
[17:48] <lordievader> Seems so, yes.
[17:49] <BluesKaj> lordievader, guess i was typing ...didn't see your post before I hit "enter"
[17:51] <georges> short version: use sudo to elevate terminal commands; use kdesu(do) to elevate kde executes
[17:51] <lordievader> georges: Yes, and gksudo is for gnome applications.
[17:52] <georges> lordievader: i omited that since this is #kubuntu
[17:52] <georges> but good info none the less
[17:53] <lordievader> That is why I mentioned it :)
[17:53] <thelionroars> uh, kdesu will still work for gnome applications  though, right?
[17:53] <georges> i actually never knew the gnome one
[17:54] <georges> i think it will if you have KDE installed
[17:54] <georges> even if rnning in the gnome env
[17:54] <lordievader> thelionroars: Gtk apps never complained when I opened them simply with sudo.
[17:56] <georges> lordievader: if you do it from terminal it wont, but if you try to use "sudo" in Exec= for desktop items it wont work
[17:56] <lordievader> georges: Synaptic works fine with "sudo synaptic".
[17:57] <georges> lordievader: in the synaptic.desktop file?
[17:58] <lordievader> georges: I don't use .desktop files, so I have no idea.
[17:58] <georges> the KDE UI uses the .desktop files
[17:58] <georges> all the menue icons are .desktop files
[17:59] <lordievader> georges: Never start synaptic from the menu ;)
[18:00] <georges> lordievader: agree, but that was my point originally, if you launch from terminal you use "sudo" but to edit the menue icons you use "kdesu"
[18:01] <lordievader> georges: Ok so we have the same view, and yet again we are argueing :P
[18:02] <georges> lordievader: tautology kills boredom LOL
[18:06] <dougl> good day!!!
[18:11] <BluesKaj> i aleays launch synaptic from a launcher , but it's alaised in /.bashrc with sudo , so i guess that doesn't count
[18:11] <BluesKaj> er ~/.bashrc
[18:14] <BluesKaj> my bifocals are  responsible for all the spelling mistakes :)
[18:14] <thelionroars> you don't use muon?
[18:15] <BluesKaj> thelionroars, very rarely unless I'm referencing for someone who needs help with it
[18:15] <BluesKaj> usually new users
[18:15] <lordievader> thelionroars: Apt-get :D
[18:15] <dougl> muon = lion?
[18:16] <dougl> lol
[18:16] <dougl> nm
[18:16] <dougl> my bifocals are messing with me too
[18:16] <BluesKaj> dougl, that one went right over my head :)
[18:17] <dougl> BluesKaj, good cuz if you are in tune with me we'd need to worry - lol
[18:17] <BluesKaj> :)
[18:18] <thelionroars> yes I have been using apt more or less exclusively for my updates for at least a year
[18:18] <dougl> apt-get = best... you can see what is going on during install
[18:18] <thelionroars> and installs
[18:18] <thelionroars> but haven't seen the command for held back packages yet for apt
[18:18] <thelionroars> that would be handy
[18:19] <dougl> held back packages?
[18:19] <lordievader> thelionroars: You mean apt-get dist-upgrade?
[18:19] <lordievader> thelionroars: Installs the held-back packages.
[18:20] <thelionroars> I thought dist-upgrade wasn't supposed to be used...
[18:20] <lordievader> thelionroars: Why not?
[18:20] <BluesKaj> thelionroars, I think most users use the CLI/apt for installing and removing apps afterthey become familiarized
[18:20] <dougl> I thought it was recomended to do once a day
[18:20] <thelionroars> only heard of it in the context of upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu
[18:21] <dougl> that is something else I think
[18:21] <thelionroars> xtp391h50eleven
[18:21] <lordievader> thelionroars: Ah the confusement rises again, apt-get dist-upgrade is not do-release-upgrade, the latter upgrades Ubuntu from say 12.04 to 12.10 or something. Apt-get dist-upgrade will just update installed packages.
[18:22] <thelionroars> oops password :P
[18:22] <thelionroars> I'm using two keyboards :)
[18:22] <dougl> I thot that was a password, time to change it....
[18:22] <thelionroars> guess it was time for a change anyway xD
[18:22] <lordievader> thelionroars: Check out synergy, it's a kvm over the internet :)
[18:22] <dougl> but that was a nice password .
[18:23] <thelionroars> meh, I have been using 16 and complex the last couple of years
[18:23] <dougl> I use synergy for windows, kubuntu and Loin on one desk with 3 monitors = works great
[18:24] <lordievader> Synergy is great as long as the network load is low.
[18:25] <BluesKaj> I just use a 42" plasma ..big enough , no need for several monitors
[18:27] <thelionroars> I will check it out
[18:28] <thelionroars> its an old Athlon xp2400+ I am putting 12.10 on
[18:29] <BluesKaj> how much memory?
[18:32] <thelionroars> 1 GB
[18:33] <thelionroars> the MB is limited to 2x512MB
[18:34] <thelionroars> I think its DDR233
[18:34] <thelionroars> I actually got it with kubuntu installed (7.10) :)
[18:35] <thelionroars> from here http://computerbank.org.au/
[19:00] <dougl> I want to make a database of pdf files (scanned hand written notes in pdf) where do I start?
[19:11] <e_t_> What do you need the database for?
[20:08] <Dosage> ? how can I get Folder View plasma for directories to suppress the .desktop file extention like it does for ~/Desktop ? For example I created a Folder VIew for /usr/share/applications but it shows all the icons with [program].desktop
[20:47] <three18ti> hi.  I just installed Kubuntu 12.10 x86_64.  I have two "NVIDIA Corporation GF104 [GeForce GTX 460]", I've installed each version of the nvidia proprietary drivers (from nvidia-current to the 310 version, I currently have the 310 version installed), and three monitors.  The problem is I can only get one video card to work at a time.  The first card works, and both display ports work.  The second card
[20:47] <three18ti> works if I pull out the first card.  However, with both cards attached, the display manager displays DVI1-0 DVI-1-1 DVI-1-2 AND DVI-1-3 however, DVI-I-0 and 1 are greyed out asif nothing is connected.
[20:47] <three18ti> I've tried both bridged an un bridged mode, and if I leave the first card plugged in but disconnect the monitor, not of the monitors power up.
[20:59] <three18ti> is there a way to manually edit the display settings perhaps?  It's almost as though the card doesn't see anything attached
[21:01] <three18ti> actually, xrandr doesn't see the monitors connected at all when run from the cli.
[21:04] <erdem_> hi everybody
[21:05] <randomvase> hi
[21:06] <three18ti> here's the interesting thing, the nvidia x server settings utility sees the monitor and can tell the model.
[21:06] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: are you there?
[21:08] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: are you there?
[21:12] <phoenix_firebrd> can someone check if microblogger plasma widget works with twitter
[21:21] <three18ti> ha! I enabled the monitor in nvidia settings, now the desktop bleeds from monitor 1 to monitor 2, the third monitor powers on now, but I'm unable to control it via KDE controls.
[21:27] <three18ti> it seems to be a problem with xorg + kde
[21:31] <Doyle> Hi folks. I'm trying to setup a vpn connection using pptp to my office.
[21:31] <Doyle> Getting :FATAL: Error inserting ppp_mppe (/lib/modules/3.5.0-19-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ppp/ppp_mppe.ko): Operation not permitted
[21:31] <Doyle> /usr/sbin/pptpsetup: couldn't find MPPE support in kernel.
[21:32] <Doyle> Anyone run across this before?
[21:34] <Doyle> It's driving me nuts. Works great form my vbox in the office, 12.10, but not from my laptop at home, or even when I take it to the office.
[21:34] <Doyle> Reinstalled kubuntu from the same img file today, but still nogo.
[21:53] <phoenix_firebrd> Doyle: are you there?
[21:58] <Doyle> Its ok
[21:58] <phoenix_firebrd> Doyle: can you help me
[21:58] <Doyle> if I can
[21:59] <phoenix_firebrd> Doyle: can you check if the microblogger widget is working with twitter?
[21:59] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: I don't have a twitter account in use, so can't really help here. It wasn't working too well with identi.ca in 4.9 either though
[22:00] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: I debugged just now
[22:00] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: its a simple base service url change
[22:00] <Doyle> sure
[22:00] <Doyle> just a min
[22:01] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: If i submit a patch now, will it make it to 4.10?
[22:01] <yofel> sure, plenty of time left before final: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.10_Release_Schedule
[22:02] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: right
[22:02] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: I just remember that you dont like the social networking wibsites
[22:03] <yofel> well, I'm not particulary against them - I do have an account on most after all. I just don't really use them
[22:04] <Doyle> Do I have to sign up fo ridenti?
[22:04] <phoenix_firebrd> Doyle: ridenti?
[22:04] <Doyle> identi.ca
[22:04] <phoenix_firebrd> Doyle: no test twitter
[22:05] <Doyle> t.co?
[22:05] <BluesKaj> to me a lot of stuff on twitter is meaningless drivel  ...some ppl I used to know were sending me messages just to talk
[22:05] <phoenix_firebrd> Doyle: twitter.com
[22:05] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: thats true, i just use it for news feeds
[22:06] <BluesKaj> being interrupted because somebody had a good golf score isn't meaningful :)
[22:07] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ha ha ha
[22:07] <Doyle> gives me an error
[22:07] <Doyle> Error
[22:07] <Doyle>   from
[22:07] <Doyle> ()
[22:07] <phoenix_firebrd> Doyle: ok now goto the settings
[22:08] <Doyle> and then?
[22:09] <phoenix_firebrd> and change the service url from "https://twitter.com/" to "https://api.twitter.com/1/" and try again
[22:10] <Doyle> way better
[22:10] <phoenix_firebrd> Doyle: works?
[22:10] <Doyle> I expected an api link in the first place
[22:11] <Doyle> yep
[22:11] <phoenix_firebrd> nice
[22:11] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: yofel the solution works
[22:12] <BluesKaj> solution for something , ok  :)
[22:13] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: more disturbance :D
[22:13] <phoenix_firebrd> Doyle: thank you
[22:13] <Doyle> Anytime
[22:14] <phoenix_firebrd> Doyle: Did you solve your problem
[22:14] <Doyle> sudo got it to work a bit better. Just have ot double check my un/pw
[22:14] <Doyle> Gives me : MS-CHAP authentication failed: I don't like you.  Go 'way.
[22:15] <Doyle> I gotta do something about that vpn appliance... it's kinda ghetto
[22:15] <phoenix_firebrd> Doyle: Ya thats what i thought when i saw the not permitted message
[22:16] <Doyle> I'm just dumb today. Too much to drink last night.
[22:16] <phoenix_firebrd> Doyle: So its a simple matter of configuring your network
[22:17] <Doyle> It's weird though
[22:17] <Doyle> Still can't use the network manager
[22:17] <Doyle> Same un/pw combo works perfectly from a virtual machine on my desktop at work
[22:17] <Doyle> but not on this laptop
[22:17] <BluesKaj> Doyle, there are some networking gurus over at #ubuntu ...their population is much larger than ours and your problem isn't restricted to kubuntu per se
[22:18] <Doyle> fair enough. I tried the gnome connection manager on the off chance it would makea  diff. nogo
[22:21] <Doyle> The Messages tab of microblogger displays "Error"
[22:21] <phoenix_firebrd> Doyle: ya i know
[22:21] <Doyle> ok
[22:22] <phoenix_firebrd> Doyle: its been blocked because the application doesn't have permission to do so, possibly new twitter policy. I have to discuss this with the maintainer
[22:24] <Doyle> Does Kubuntu use github to maintain their codebase?
[22:35] <phoenix_firebrd> good night everyone
[22:48] <raywmjr> hey cn any one tell me how to give permission to write to a USB drive (ubuntu 12.04)
[22:50] <raywmjr> I keep trying sudo, move commands, copy commands, replace commands
[22:57] <Catbuntu> Hi
[23:23] <three18ti> raywmjr you still around
[23:23] <blueapple> ....
[23:24] <blueapple> 有 中国人吗？
[23:26] <blueapple> Chinese
[23:26] <three18ti> или русского народа
[23:27] <blueapple> what ?
[23:28] <three18ti> !cn | blueapple