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| davecheney | is their a quantal-server-armhf-image available ? | 03:41 |
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| davecheney | for omap4 | 03:41 |
| infinity | davecheney: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ | 03:46 |
| infinity | davecheney: Or, if you're after netboot images, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/quantal/ | 03:46 |
| davecheney | infinity: i tried the netboot last night | 03:57 |
| davecheney | it doesn't setup the uboot parition | 03:57 |
| infinity | Sure it does. | 03:57 |
| davecheney | nup | 03:57 |
| infinity | It *is* the uBoot partition | 03:57 |
| davecheney | right, but after you go through the installer | 03:57 |
| infinity | The only way for that to fail is if you either repartition the card, or remove it. | 03:58 |
| davecheney | the sdcard is just formatted like a usual quantal install | 03:58 |
| infinity | Oh. Yeah. Don't install to the SD card. | 03:58 |
| infinity | It's designed to install to other media. | 03:58 |
| davecheney | infinity: shuld I start with precise and dist-uprade instead ? | 03:58 |
| infinity | ... | 03:58 |
| infinity | The installers are identical. | 03:58 |
| infinity | Oh, unless you mean a precise preinstall. | 03:59 |
| davecheney | as in, start with the precise sever omap4 image | 03:59 |
| infinity | Why do you want to run from SD so badly? | 03:59 |
| davecheney | 'cos I only have a panda | 03:59 |
| infinity | ... and? | 03:59 |
| davecheney | yeah, I guess I can use outboard usb | 03:59 |
| infinity | I run all my Pandas from external media. Makes them not suck. :P | 03:59 |
| davecheney | the internal card is farqing slow | 03:59 |
| davecheney | ok, that sounds like a plan | 04:00 |
| infinity | Yes, this is why we don't officially support installing to SD anymore. | 04:00 |
| infinity | It's an awful user experience. | 04:00 |
| davecheney | use the netboot installer, install to the usb drive | 04:00 |
| davecheney | then i need to adjust my uboot settings right ? | 04:00 |
| infinity | (That said, if you use netboot and then tell the installer to "install to largest contiguous free space" instead of "entire disk", it might work) | 04:00 |
| davecheney | or will the netboot installer do that for me ? | 04:00 |
| infinity | No, it'll do everything right for you. | 04:00 |
| davecheney | if i'm not an idiot an let it overwrite the card I just booted from :) | 04:00 |
| infinity | Just select the external disk and "entire disk", and it'll do the right thing and rewrite the SD card. | 04:01 |
| davecheney | okie dokes | 04:01 |
| davecheney | thanks mate | 04:01 |
| infinity | Even a USB thumb drive is a huge improvement over running from SD, but I do recommend an external hard drive (rotary is fine, SSD is a waste of money). | 04:01 |
| lilstevie | SSDs are faster than USB | 04:01 |
| davecheney | for all my machines they mount /home over nfs | 04:02 |
| davecheney | so I only use the sdcard for / | 04:02 |
| davecheney | and once everything is cached | 04:02 |
| davecheney | it's usable | 04:02 |
| lilstevie | hell even a lot of rotary disks have faster access times | 04:02 |
| infinity | Oh, if you're doing things like that, then yeah, you might want to try installing to SD, I suppose. | 04:02 |
| infinity | Like I said, we don't "officially" support it, but if you pick the "largest contiguous space" option instead of "entire disk", it may DTRT. | 04:03 |
| infinity | It used to. But I haven't tested that in a while. | 04:03 |
| davecheney | i'd say usb ethernet and usb sata would be about as aweful | 04:03 |
| davecheney | infinity: i'll try largest | 04:03 |
| infinity | USB HDDs are ridiculously fast in comparison to SD, though, if you intend to do anything locally. | 04:03 |
| infinity | (Also, SD cards kinda burn out and explode with heavy use, but if you're essentially using it read-only, that's not as big a deal) | 04:04 |
| davecheney | infinity: btw, nexus 7 with lightdm shutdown is a pretty decent build host | 04:04 |
| davecheney | but again, mount your home from somewhere else | 04:04 |
| davecheney | that is an expensive flash card | 04:04 |
| infinity | Building over networks doesn't excite me terribly. :/ | 04:05 |
| infinity | If I could both charge it *and* have a USB HDD plugged in at the same time, I'd love it. | 04:05 |
| davecheney | that would rquire some kind of bi sexual usb cable | 04:05 |
| infinity | Exactly. | 04:05 |
| * davecheney shudders | 04:05 | |
| infinity | I have enough build hosts lying around here, though. | 04:05 |
| infinity | And still considering jumping on the Chromebook bandwagon. | 04:06 |
| davecheney | if I could get someone to mule me one from the states, us! | 04:06 |
| davecheney | yes! | 04:06 |
| davecheney | i have the reddies in my hot little hand | 04:06 |
| davecheney | but you can't buy the buggers in AU | 04:06 |
| infinity | Yeah, can't buy them in Canada either, but getting friends to ship across that border is less hassle. | 04:07 |
| davecheney | i'll keep an eye out for folks making the trip across the ocean | 04:07 |
| davecheney | but I suspect it'll be UDS-R before I can get one | 04:07 |
| infinity | And I usually buy all my laptops in the US, just due to the fact that they always try to fleece us on local sales. | 04:07 |
| infinity | Our dollars are basically at parity right now, but everything's mysteriously 30% more expensive here. | 04:08 |
| davecheney | infinity: yes, the AUD is kicking the greenback's arse | 04:08 |
| davecheney | but for some reason there is a 10-20% living in australia tax | 04:08 |
| infinity | davecheney: Your tax makes some sense. People have to send stuff to you in the middle of nowhere. | 04:08 |
| davecheney | nah, that is bullshit | 04:09 |
| infinity | davecheney: In my case, everything ships from the same warehouses (often, ironically, ones in Canada). | 04:09 |
| davecheney | taiwan is a lot closer to AU than Canada | 04:09 |
| davecheney | samsung are korean, i think | 04:09 |
| infinity | davecheney: Yes, but you're a population of 20M. We're 350M. | 04:09 |
| infinity | davecheney: That *does* make a difference when it comes to how you can or can't ship bulk. | 04:10 |
| davecheney | 22million i'll have you know, we've been busy | 04:10 |
| davecheney | yeah, i'm just whinging | 04:10 |
| infinity | (I know it sucks, I used to live in Melbourne( | 04:10 |
| infinity | ) | 04:10 |
| infinity | The trick was to have friends visit. Or travel lots. | 04:11 |
| infinity | And always get stuff on the outside. :P | 04:11 |
| infinity | Except lambs. | 04:11 |
| davecheney | infinity: i've also got hold of an imx.53 | 04:12 |
| davecheney | how do you run the sata port on there | 04:12 |
| davecheney | considering there is no power header | 04:12 |
| infinity | I have mine plugged into an internal->eSata adaptor, and have it plugged into an eSATA drive in a caddy. | 04:21 |
| davecheney | ahh, right, so your getting the power from the caddies wall wart | 04:22 |
| * infinity nods. | 04:22 | |
| infinity | That's the only sane way to get power to anything on these boards. | 04:22 |
| infinity | Same for USB drives. | 04:22 |
| davecheney | yup | 04:22 |
| infinity | Driving them from the USB hub will end in tears. | 04:23 |
| davecheney | oh no, think of the children! | 04:23 |
| davecheney | infinity: doing largest looks like it'll work | 04:24 |
| davecheney | it started at partition 2 this time | 04:24 |
| davecheney | thanks for the tip | 04:25 |
| infinity | Yeah, this could all be made more elegant, but... The biggest consumers of netboot on omap/omap4 boards also happen to be people who preseed and do their own twisted magic anyway. | 04:25 |
| infinity | As such, it never became much of a priority to make this more user-friendly. | 04:26 |
| infinity | Or friendly at all. :P | 04:26 |
| davecheney | i think it's pretty decent | 04:26 |
| * davecheney has been playing with freebsd/arm | 04:26 | |
| davecheney | that is _not_ user friendly | 04:26 |
| infinity | Oh, sure, we're more friendly than most everyone else. But I hold myself to a higher standard than that. :P | 04:26 |
| * davecheney nods | 04:27 | |
| infinity | Someone really needs to send me a Beagle xM. | 04:28 |
| infinity | This C4 I'm testing on makes me want to kick puppies. | 04:28 |
| infinity | I bet I could have kidnapped a bucket of XMs when I was in London last. And I forgot. Drat. | 04:29 |
| davecheney | c4 ? | 04:33 |
| davecheney | "when i doubt, c4!" | 04:33 |
| infinity | davecheney: Ancient beaglboard model, 750MHz, 256MB of RAM. | 04:34 |
| lilstevie | ew | 04:34 |
| infinity | davecheney: Not the most pleasant system to be testing my omap3 fixes on. | 04:34 |
| davecheney | oh sadface | 04:34 |
| davecheney | can't you use the loco ? | 04:35 |
| infinity | To test omap3 stuff? That would be a cute trick. | 04:35 |
| infinity | Given that it's a different SoC. :) | 04:35 |
| davecheney | oh, sorry | 04:35 |
| davecheney | i keep forgetting that it's not Ti | 04:35 |
| infinity | Heh. | 04:35 |
| davecheney | but then again, there won't be any more OMAP boards now | 04:36 |
| davecheney | so i'd better get use to that | 04:36 |
| infinity | And I was so looking forward to the Panda5. | 04:36 |
| davecheney | have they just given up | 04:37 |
| infinity | No. | 04:37 |
| davecheney | i heard they were selling the OMAP5 rights | 04:37 |
| davecheney | or they were at least up for sale | 04:37 |
| infinity | I'm actually not sure of the current state of affairs. | 04:37 |
| davecheney | there is also the exyijis | 04:37 |
| davecheney | i have no idea how to spell that | 04:37 |
| davecheney | the quad cortex-a9 | 04:37 |
| davecheney | from samsung | 04:37 |
| infinity | Exynos. | 04:38 |
| davecheney | yes | 04:38 |
| davecheney | ok, gotta fly, thanks for your help | 04:42 |
| davecheney | will report back when the net install is done | 04:42 |
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| tassadar_ | Will 12.10 version of ubuntu for nexus 7 get any updates or not? | 18:46 |
| xenome | does midori not support html5 anymore? It seems to work great under the angstrom distribution | 22:27 |
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