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| coolbhavi | ajmitch, hey | 07:57 |
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| ajmitch | hello again | 07:58 |
| coolbhavi | seems like quadrispro cant make it | 07:58 |
| coolbhavi | #startmeeting ubuntu arb meeting | 07:59 |
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| coolbhavi | ajmitch, here is the agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Agenda | 08:00 |
| ajmitch | yep, I have it open | 08:00 |
| ajmitch | it's been awhile since the last meeting & the group has shrunk a little bit, not sure how relevant old action items are | 08:01 |
| coolbhavi | ajmitch, yes. So there are a couple of real burning issues: 1) the review process almost seems to be slowed down 2) the dev's who have submitted their packages as a part of app developer showdown are really angry | 08:02 |
| ajmitch | yes, I'm sorry that I haven't been doing a lot on the queue lately, I'm guessing that we've had 0 interest from other ubuntu developers to look over packages | 08:03 |
| coolbhavi | ajmitch, thats perfectly fine :-) any thoughts on how to keep the reviews rolling over until we have the new arb process in place? | 08:04 |
| * ajmitch has been trying to look at tools more than the queue lately, but hasn't got much to show | 08:05 | |
| ajmitch | there's no easy way to get the reviews done unless we just do them | 08:05 |
| ajmitch | even if I get you a queue that has lintian/licensecheck run & builds packages automatically, there's still a fair bit of manual work to do | 08:06 |
| * coolbhavi too is concentrating on getting arb profile into lintian so we can get another app review week going | 08:06 | |
| ajmitch | that'll help a bit | 08:07 |
| ajmitch | most of the work items I have from UDS are related to tools like this | 08:07 |
| coolbhavi | any thoughts of about getting the queue closed for sometime (as in a freeze period) and concentrate on clearing the queue | 08:08 |
| coolbhavi | for some time? | 08:08 |
| coolbhavi | would that help? | 08:08 |
| ajmitch | we don't have a large number of new submissions, I think closing the queue could be seen fairly negatively | 08:08 |
| ajmitch | then again, it's not like we could make the reputation much worse :) | 08:09 |
| coolbhavi | hmm agreed it has negatives but the queue has around 100+ apps I believe | 08:10 |
| ajmitch | we did talk about this at UDS & considering closing the queue to be a bad idea | 08:11 |
| ajmitch | do you think we can just pick through the queue for packages that are 99% ready & get those in? | 08:11 |
| ajmitch | I'll try & get some of this automation in place asap so that we can see what's low-hanging fruit | 08:12 |
| coolbhavi | yes those in pending review and review in progress especially ones from app-developer-showdown might help | 08:13 |
| ajmitch | any ideas on convincing people that they should help out? :) | 08:15 |
| ajmitch | it's been a struggle since the ARB was introduced, so I'm not optimistic | 08:15 |
| coolbhavi | I'll add a action item for both then to identify packages which are already in shape | 08:16 |
| coolbhavi | yes but as you said it was a struggle as it requires some amount of motivation and free time | 08:17 |
| ajmitch | and for people to consider extras.u.c to be worthwhile | 08:17 |
| ajmitch | for most developers, new packages are a low priority anyway | 08:18 |
| coolbhavi | +1 added to that the queue is not so public facing | 08:18 |
| coolbhavi | #action ajmitch and coolbhavi to scout for some low hanging fruits in the queue to help clear the queue | 08:20 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ajmitch and coolbhavi to scout for some low hanging fruits in the queue to help clear the queue | 08:20 |
| coolbhavi | do you think a new round of recruitment can help in this regard? | 08:21 |
| coolbhavi | ajmitch, ^^ | 08:21 |
| ajmitch | maybe a little bit, but we haven't really had anyone interested despite recent mails to the list about the process | 08:22 |
| coolbhavi | yes. but considering a 7 member team will be more effective than a 3 member team right now it might help | 08:23 |
| ajmitch | sure, if you can get 4 more people to step forward & commit | 08:24 |
| coolbhavi | I'll bring this up on the list then for discussion | 08:24 |
| coolbhavi | #action coolbhavi to mail the arb list about a new round of recruitment | 08:25 |
| meetingology | ACTION: coolbhavi to mail the arb list about a new round of recruitment | 08:25 |
| ajmitch | ok | 08:25 |
| ajmitch | has the TB approved the process change? | 08:28 |
| coolbhavi | ajmitch, the other two points were: still we have not got any formal signoff from the TB regarding new arb process and we were not able to meet frequently in the recent past | 08:28 |
| coolbhavi | ajmitch, can you help regarding reaching out to the TB for a formal approval? | 08:29 |
| ajmitch | yes, that's why I asked about the TB signoff, I know that it was mentioned in a TB meeting | 08:30 |
| ajmitch | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2012-November/001437.html is the last action on the TB list | 08:30 |
| ajmitch | I'll check & see if they want to approve it or if we just go with it | 08:31 |
| coolbhavi | great! | 08:31 |
| ajmitch | I suspect they'll be fine with us just going ahead, there were no objections on the list | 08:31 |
| coolbhavi | yes agreed but a formal signoff would be a good go ahead signal for us to atleast follow up on ubuntu-devel | 08:32 |
| ajmitch | right | 08:32 |
| ajmitch | so the other thing is more regular meetings | 08:33 |
| coolbhavi | I'll mark down an action for this | 08:33 |
| coolbhavi | #action ajmitch to check with the TB for approval of new arb process | 08:34 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ajmitch to check with the TB for approval of new arb process | 08:34 |
| coolbhavi | regarding meetings | 08:34 |
| coolbhavi | how about having meetings on sunday this time as long as a new recruitment run goes into pace? | 08:35 |
| ajmitch | fine by me | 08:35 |
| coolbhavi | great then! ll catch up with alessio too regarding this. | 08:36 |
| ajmitch | ok, hopefully he can make it to the next one | 08:37 |
| ajmitch | I'm guessing once a month is enough? | 08:37 |
| coolbhavi | right. but twice in a month for next couple of months maybe wont harm as it enables us to track the queue better I think. But then its your choice :) | 08:38 |
| ajmitch | christmas holidays are coming up, so twice a month will be pushing it | 08:39 |
| coolbhavi | :) fine then! | 08:40 |
| coolbhavi | any other things up for discussion? | 08:40 |
| ajmitch | I think that's about it | 08:41 |
| coolbhavi | thanks a lot ajmitch for coming in :) you are really one of the arb's rockstars :) | 08:42 |
| ajmitch | no, not really :P | 08:42 |
| coolbhavi | atleast you were one of those guys who formed the arb :) thanks a lot again! | 08:43 |
| coolbhavi | #endmeeting | 08:43 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Sun Dec 2 08:43:29 2012 UTC. | 08:43 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-12-02-07.59.moin.txt | 08:43 |
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| ajmitch | thanks for chairing, I'll try & get some stuff together soon to help with reviews | 08:43 |
| ajmitch | for now, I'm out, see you round | 08:43 |
| coolbhavi | no mention :-) ciao | 08:43 |
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