[16:53] <ojwb> morning
[18:26] <chilts> morning
[18:26] <chilts> more tuis?
[18:29] <ibeardslee> morning
[18:39] <ajmitch> morning
[18:40] <ojwb> chilts: no, just woke up early this time
[20:02] <mwhudson> morning
[20:06] <hads> morning
[22:28] <elky> Unity is making me sad.
[22:29] <ibeardslee> have a drink
[22:33] <elky> That'd be a downward spiral. I'm pretty sure I'd get a talking to which would make me want another.
[22:34] <ajmitch> but you'd forget about unity by that stage
[22:35] <elky> Ok, so I need to switch to firefox, but I've hit that "all the icons on the dash disappear" thing. And alt-tab has a habit of causing crashes.
[22:36] <lifeless> elky: ajmitch has a fix for that.
[22:36] <lifeless> elky: 'reboot'.
[22:38] <elky> But I _was_ in the middle of doing things :(
[22:39] <ajmitch> lifeless: actually I saw a proper fix committed for that today
[22:39] <lifeless> elky: and ? :)
[22:39] <ajmitch> which just changes all the types to 64-bit
[22:40] <elky> ajmitch, omg...
[22:40] <elky> you mean this might be over, finally?
[22:40] <ajmitch> shouldn't be hard to apply that to the version of unity in precise & quantal
[22:40] <ajmitch> elky: seems that way
[22:42] <ajmitch> what ubuntu release are you using?
[22:42] <ojwb> 2**32 icons should be enough for anybody
[22:42] <ajmitch> ojwb: sadly it's uptime, not pixels
[22:44] <elky> oneiric iirc
[22:45] <ajmitch> old stuff
[22:45] <elky> yeah. I think precise waits on the shiny new machine that ibeardslee keeps trying to steal back.
[22:46] <ojwb> fwiw, i had icons missing in oneiric and still do with precise
[22:46] <elky> ojwb, iv'e had the issue since unity first appeared
[22:46] <ojwb> machine hasn't been up more than a day or two in either case
[22:46] <ojwb> i uninstalled it pretty quickly back when it first appeared
[22:47] <elky> heh
[22:47] <ojwb> but it seems to reappear in each new version
[22:47] <elky> ok, reboot i guess :(
[22:47] <ajmitch> ojwb: I had it happen in natty, it's always been after weeks of uptime
[22:47] <ojwb> i guess some meta package pullsit in
[22:47] <ajmitch> elky: not necessarily
[22:48] <ojwb> actually, it's not quite the same as i still have some icons
[22:48] <ojwb> but several are just blank for some reason
[22:48] <ajmitch> if you haven't already, I've got a workaround that doesn't require changing unity or rebooting
[22:52] <ibeardslee> elky: setup an rsync, get that done and then `sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda count=2` or something
[22:56] <ajmitch> ibeardslee: trying to break stuff?
[22:57] <ibeardslee> heh .. elky has a new machine, but hasn't had the chance to migrate from her old machine yet.  Just suggesting options to kill the old machine and force the migration
[22:57] <ajmitch> sounds like time for percussive maintenance
[22:57] <elky> I missed them because i was rebooting AND THEN UNITY DIDN'T LOAD
[22:57] <ajmitch> oops
[22:58] <elky> rebooted a second time and it came back, thank deity
[22:59] <elky> so what were the suggestions?
[22:59] <ibeardslee> elky: setup an rsync, get that done and then `sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda count=2` or something
[23:01] <ibeardslee> although you could also just put the old disk into the new machine
[23:02] <elky> I wanted to do that way back and you said no :(
[23:02] <ibeardslee> I didn't think you'd take so long about it
[23:02] <ibeardslee> ultimately would want the disk back
[23:02] <elky> I didn't think there'd be obstructions
[23:04] <elky> Now's not the time to do this anyway, I'm supposed to be prepping for some deployments
[23:14] <lifeless> ibeardslee: /dev/zero surely
[23:17] <ibeardslee> I did actually mean /dev/random .. but /dev/zero would probably work as well