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=== Dave is now known as Guest79652
Guest79652I have just installed xubuntu sound is very low it was load in kubuntu can you please help00:15
Guest79652loud00:15
sajanGuest79652, have you gone to Menu > Multimedia > PulseAudio Volume Control and adjusted the levels for your device in the 'Output Devices' tab?  I know of a couple installation where it wasn't at 100% by default for some reason.00:16
Guest79652ok not sure how to get to that sorry I see applications00:17
sajanGuest79652, in the applications menu at the top left of the screen.  Go to Multimedia and click on PulseAudio Volume Control.00:18
Guest79652there is nothing named that sorry00:19
sajanGuest79652, in a terminal run the following command: pavucontrol00:21
kevin_hello everyone01:11
UnderControlHiya kevin_01:11
kevin_i'm a french newbie on xubuntu and i follow documentation's advices to connect on #xubuntu01:12
knomewelcome01:13
kevin_thx a lot01:13
hmsimhahey.. anyone know why all the text on my xubuntu install looks so short?02:12
hmsimhalike it seems squished.. i'm running it in the same display mode that I had windows running in02:12
GridCubehmsimha, you can change the fonts to your likeness02:14
GridCubei particularly like to change it to ubuntu light 1002:15
hmsimha@GridCube, I've tried changing it, but even in my browser, where the webpages select the font, the fonts look too short.. it's a little hard to read02:16
GridCubehmsimha, care to share a screenshot please?02:16
hmsimhaif i change it in the browser it only affects the default fonts02:16
hmsimhayeah i'll do that, hd on one sec02:17
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hmsimhaGridCube: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12012012-081838pm.php02:19
GridCubehmsimha, those fonts are huge02:20
GridCubedo you need special fonts or this is the problem?02:21
viniciusgood evening!02:21
GridCubei mean, do you need smaller fonts?02:21
GridCubeor you need the browser to use the big ones?02:21
hmsimhahmm i've never changed the font settings in windows and have no problems reading anything except every now and then when I have to CTRL+ a specific website02:22
GridCube:)02:22
GridCubeoh, hmsimha could you log off and login using the guest account for a moment and check if this issue replicates there?02:23
hmsimhajust installed xubuntu, and it seemed to me like it was harder to read everything, I changed the system font to a monospaced font and that seemed to help a bit, but when I'm in the browser I'm still getting the default webpage fonts, and when they render it's a little hard to read02:23
hmsimhaok, brb02:24
GridCube!hi | vinicius02:24
ubottuvinicius: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!02:24
viniciusthank you guys02:25
hmsimha2Gridcube http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12012012-082523pm.php02:27
GridCubehmsimha2, yes, thats how its suppose to look02:27
GridCubeso, the thing is you need larger fonts02:27
GridCubei recommend you to use ubuntu light 1602:28
GridCubeon firefox go to the options and change the default fonts to the same, or bigger, and go to advanced there and untick the box that says "let webpages choose their own font"02:30
GridCubeon the rest of the programs that use their own rendering fonts you need to do similar things, like in xchat or pidgin02:31
hmsimha2gridcube, I think it's an issue of me being accustomed to different display resolution... but on xubuntu this is the highest one available02:31
GridCubehmsimha2, probably yes02:31
hmsimha2everything just seems too short to me02:31
hmsimha2or, possibly that it's rendering too wide02:32
GridCubehmsimha2, you might want to try a different screen resolution02:32
GridCubebigger screen and bigger fonts02:32
hmsimha2the other options are too low-res.. I could try using a 'narrow' font perhaps, but i don't like the idea of overriding the default font for a webpage02:34
hmsimha2maybe it's something I'll just have to get used to.. unless you think there's a way to have more options in resolution?02:34
GridCubehmsimha2, maybe you will get more screen resolutions if you use the propietary drivers for your vga02:35
hmsimha2hmm good suggestion02:35
GridCube(sometimes its backwards though)02:36
hmsimha2i think what i've grown accustomed to is 1280x76802:36
hmsimha2so the switch to 1024x768 is what's making everything look strange02:36
hmsimha2but i can probably get used to it too if i need to02:36
hmsimha2thanks for the help!02:36
GridCubehmsimha2, oh, right, you are stretching your image, thats why im not seing the same as you02:37
GridCubeXD02:37
GridCubeyou are spreading 1024x768 to 1280x72002:38
GridCubethat will make things look bad02:38
hmsimha2hmm you're saying the monitor is 1280x720? so when I look at it in 1024x768 it makes it look stretched?02:40
GridCubeyes, you are using a widescreen monitor i gather02:41
GridCube16:902:41
GridCubehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16:902:42
hmsimha2Gridcube that looks right02:42
GridCubemmhm, you need a 16:9 aspect ratio for your display aswell :)02:43
GridCubethats why things will look funny elsewhere02:43
GridCubemy monitor its still 4:5 P: i looked hard to find one02:44
GridCube4:302:45
innmalintI've been running Xubuntu for the first time since Gutsy -- whenever I wake my computer from standby I have to wait on a message something like "kvm: disable by bios." I've been reading on what kvm is, but I can't get a clear answer to whether it's necessary or not? running on a desktop, not a vm.02:45
GridCubei think its used to emulate i386 on amd64 machines02:46
hmsimha2i'll have to see if i can find a way to support the 16:9 aspect ratio :)02:47
GridCubehmsimha2, thats weird because it should autodetect the monitor aspect ratio and give you only 16:9 resolutions to choose02:47
GridCubeyou migth need to: a) get propietary driver or 2) create a custom xorg.conf02:48
innmalintGridcube, I'm running 64 bit on a i5. Hmm..02:48
GridCubeinnmalint, i wouldnot knwo more though, and im probably wrong02:50
GridCubeplease wait for people who knows more02:50
innmalintNo problem, thanks.02:50
sajanWhen my external HDD mounts, it seems to only give owner (me) r/w/x permissions.  When I go to properties and try giving group or everybody read permissions...it doesn't stay.  Can't even chmod it to anything else.  If I umount and mount it manually with all permissions it works.  But it's a pain to have to do that everytime.  Any thoughts?  Thanks.03:15
hmsimhaanyone know why sysinfo would tell me I only have 486 MiB total memory when the computer I'm running should have 2GB?03:31
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otendif I transition from Ubuntu to Xubuntu via xubuntu-desktop, is removing Pulseaudio safe, or a really stupid idea?06:06
bartzyHello09:42
bartzyI changed the maximize window keyboard shortcut to Alt+Return, and it works, but when I logout and login again, It doesn't work (but still appears as the shortcut for maximizing the window). Any ideas?09:42
bartzyUsing Xubuntu 12.10 ^09:42
koegsbartzy: yes10:16
bartzykoegs: Why is this caused ?10:21
koegsbartzy: just found my own bug report about that... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/992579/comments/510:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 992579 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "XFCE4: Hotkey for "Maximize Window" ignored, Application Hotkeys delayed" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:24
bartzykoegs: Why that happens ?10:27
bartzyand just deleting that line solves the issue ?10:28
bartzyYou're awesome. :P10:28
koegsbartzy: the new line is added, but the old one never gets deleted, do not know why :)10:29
bartzyThis drove me mad10:29
bartzyIt happens for any "window manager" keyboard shortcut10:29
bartzy?10:29
koegsdunno, you have to try :)10:30
bartzyI have another question :p10:54
bartzyIn the xfce4-terminal, the current active tab is really not clear. It's a really light background change. How do I change the background color of the tab only, to something more visible?10:55
cocomohi how do i know what version of gnome am running on xubuntu?11:03
baizoncocomo: for example open evince11:10
baizonthen check about11:10
baizonif there is 3.6.0 its gnome 3.611:10
cocomoit says document viewer V 2.611:12
cocomobaizon: ty11:12
cocomo3.6*11:12
baizonwell then its gnome 3.6 :) and np11:12
cocomobaizon: do u know any tool to change and add new themes in xubuntu11:17
baizoncocomo: well if you have a theme just add (copy) it into ~/.themes11:18
cocomook and how do i change the current theme11:18
baizonthere you have themes http://xfce-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=420&PHPSESSID=0687f052b46314b8c42604385e33431a11:18
baizoncocomo: in the settings manager11:19
cocomobaizon: ty11:20
baizonnp11:20
xubuntu912hi everybody12:06
knomehell12:06
knome...o12:06
xubuntu912I have some problem with XkeysymDB12:06
xubuntu912the file isn't located in my /usr/local/X11/ nor in my /usr/share/X11/12:07
xubuntu912I am using Xubuntu 12.1012:07
xubuntu91264 bit12:07
knomei don't know about that specifically, but that might be one of the things you need to create if you need the file12:07
xubuntu912 ok12:07
xubuntu912so I could create the file and paste some content from the web into it? Normally it specivies which keysyms are allowed to use when assinging keys to actions (keyboard shortcuts)12:10
xubuntu912sry specifies12:10
knomei don't know about that :)12:10
xubuntu912ok12:10
knomebut that might work...12:10
knomeyou could ask #ubuntu too12:10
xubuntu912ok thank you12:10
knomethis isn't xubuntu-specific12:10
knomenp, good luck with it12:11
xubuntu912ah, i#ll try that12:11
xubuntu912thanks12:11
xubuntu912bye12:11
aHardyXHi. I installed compiz on Xubuntu 12.10 with nvidia-173 drivers. When I run "compiz --replace" the screen flickers and it goes blank and I can see the cursor. How do I get compiz running?13:39
knomejust a note that compiz isn't officially supported13:45
aHardyXknome: ok.13:55
xubuntu666hello14:01
knomehullo14:02
rt2500pciI run 12.04 and have an Edimax PCMCIA Wireless card which works OK on a laptop running  Debian Squeeze BUT freezes 12.04 a few seconds after inserting it. Can anyone help me?14:04
oketomhow is xubuntu better than ubuntu or kubuntu?15:36
tomatopotatoits lighter, faster15:37
oketombecause of the xfce?15:37
tomatopotatoyep15:38
oketomi mean, if i install gnome in xubuntu, will it be faster too?15:38
oketomstill*15:38
knomeoketom, no.15:38
oketomok, thanks15:39
tomatopotatooketom: then again if you want to install and use gnome, stick with ununtu lol15:41
tomatopotatoits easier15:41
tomatopotatomean ubuntu15:41
rt2500pciI run 12.04 and have an Edimax PCMCIA Wireless card which works OK on a laptop running  Debian Squeeze BUT freezes 12.04 a few seconds after inserting it. Can anyone help me?15:43
tomatopotatohow freexze?15:44
tomatopotatowhat happens?15:44
rt2500pciit just freezes15:51
rt2500pcithe system locks up15:51
tomatopotatois the card inserted while booting?15:52
rt2500pcino15:52
tomatopotatoyou insert the card after the system booted up?15:52
rt2500pciyes15:54
tomatopotatowhathappens if you turn of the coputer insert the card and boot up?15:54
rt2500pciwill try in a couple of minutes15:57
rt2500pcior perhaps a  bit more than 2 min16:01
tomatopotatolol16:02
rt2500pcii am about to  insert the card and then boot up16:24
tomatopotatook16:27
tomatopotatomaybe first turn of and then boot up16:27
tomatopotatomean turn of16:27
tomatopotatoinsert card16:27
tomatopotatoand then boot up16:27
rt2500pcii inserted the card, turned on the laptop, booted up and  my 12.04 laptop locked up a   few seconds later16:28
tomatopotatoand when you remove the card after lockup? whats happeneing16:29
rt2500pcii just removed the card and the boot up procedure resumed OK.  what now?16:31
tomatopotatoso when you remove the card. it resumes?16:32
rt2500pciin this particular case, yes16:32
tomatopotatowhy particular case?16:33
rt2500pcithe case: i inserted the card, turned on the laptop, booted up and  my 12.04 laptop locked up a   few seconds later. Removed the card and the boot up procedure finished OK16:35
tomatopotatohow do you know it locked up? what msg do you get?16:36
rt2500pcino message. the system just froze up16:41
tomatopotatohrmm16:42
tomatopotatodoes the card work in other machine rt2500pci?16:44
rt2500pciI run 12.04 and have an Edimax PCMCIA Wireless card which WORKS OK on a laptop running  DEBIAN Squeeze BUT freezes 12.04 a few seconds after inserting it16:45
rt2500pciYes, it does work on Debian16:46
rt2500pciwith the stock kernel, nothing compiled by hand16:46
rt2500pciYes, it does work on Debian running on another laptop16:48
tomatopotatotry to boot system without card16:49
tomatopotatoand then run first "tail -f /var/log/syslog"16:49
tomatopotatoand then insert card16:49
tomatopotatowait16:50
tomatopotatobefore inserting a card, run htop to see what is talking up process if tehre is anything16:50
tomatopotatort2500pci:16:53
rt2500pcirunning htop right now, now what shall i do?16:54
tomatopotatothe process viewer16:55
tomatopotatorun it first so you can see what process is running16:55
tomatopotatoand if there is any process that takes up alot of cpu power16:56
tomatopotatoyou can install worsest cawse htop16:57
rt2500pciwhat about executing iwconfig wlan0 power off ?16:57
tomatopotatodoes it work?16:58
tomatopotatoif you would run tail -f /var/log/syslog  we could see what locks up16:58
tomatopotatowhats happenin16:58
mahmoud_Hello, I'd like to install more themes or desktop tweaks. How is that achievable?16:59
TheSheep!theme16:59
ubottuTo change your theme in Xubuntu, go to Settings Manager » Appearance (GTK+ theme) or Settings Manager » Window Manager (xfwm4 theme) to change the theme - find more themes at http://xfce-look.org/ or http://gnome-look.org/ (for GTK+ themes)16:59
rt2500pciafter tail -f /var/log/syslog i inserted the card, a few messages flashed and a few seconds later the system rebooted itself16:59
tomatopotatogot any glimps?17:00
mahmoud_May I ask what is GTK+ ?17:03
TheSheepmahmoud_: gimp tool kit17:03
TheSheepmahmoud_: library of widgets17:03
TheSheepmahmoud_: that's what xubuntu applications use to display their user interface17:04
tomatopotatort2500pci: you said it locks up17:04
tomatopotatoi mean when you insert the card and not reboot17:05
mahmoud_TheSheep, so will any theme on xfce-look.org be compatible with my Xubuntu 12.10?17:05
rt2500pciafter doing what YOU told me to do the system did not lock up but reboot itself without my doing anything else17:05
tomatopotatoso "tail -f /var/log/syslog" couse a reboot?17:06
TheSheepmahmoud_: no, only gtk 2/3 themes and xfce themes17:06
mahmoud_TheSheep: ok, thanks :)17:07
TheSheeprt2500pci: who is that YOU that you are talking about?17:07
rt2500pcitomatopotato17:07
tomatopotatotail -f /var/log/syslog usually does not caouse a reboot, it doesnt make sense what happened17:07
tomatopotatort2500pci: worst case you can run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" remote17:09
tomatopotatothen even it restarts you will still have the info on the other machine, (if you have an other machine)17:09
rt2500pcihow can a desktop newbie run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" remote ?17:10
TheSheepwith ssh!17:11
tomatopotatovia terminal17:11
tomatopotatoyu have toenable ssh on the mashine you want to acsess17:11
tomatopotatothere is i think an ssh pakage for xubuntu17:12
tomatopotatort2500pci: if you have any questions just ask17:13
tomatopotatoi mean if things a re unclear17:13
rt2500pciok17:13
tomatopotatort2500pci: need help?17:32
tomatopotatoare both machines linux?17:33
tomatopotatowell first you need to install ssh package on the xubuntu machine where you like to use the pcmcia card17:33
tomatopotatotrought the software center17:34
rt2500pcitomatopotato, yes both laptops are gnu/linux.  one is running Debian and the other 12.04. i connect to internet using my local cafe wireless. NO, i do not have physical access to their router and staff will certainly will NOT let me get anywhere near their router. I do NOT have internet at home17:39
tomatopotatoyou dont need accsess to the router17:40
tomatopotatofirst install ssh17:40
tomatopotatoyou can acsess the other computer trough LAN17:41
tomatopotatort2500pci: we neeed to know what is causing the freeze/ restart17:44
tomatopotatothe only way i know is with is running "tail -f /var/log/syslog" remotely17:45
tomatopotatojust to see whats happeneing17:45
TheSheeptomatopotato: dmesg?17:46
tomatopotatoyeah that to, but nonthe less he must run it remotely17:47
tomatopotatoor try first dmesg17:47
tomatopotatomaybe that wont cause a restart17:47
tomatopotatobut tail -f shouldnt cause it either but it does17:47
TheSheepif accessing a file causes a restart, then something is *very* wrong, and I'd suspect a faulty disk or a bug in the filesystem drivers17:48
tomatopotatohis computer is freezing when he connects his pcmcia card17:48
tomatopotatoit happens only after he is inserting the card17:48
tomatopotatobefore that he is running tail -f17:48
tomatopotatoand it is not restarting17:48
rt2500pciTheSheep, the disk is not faulty. i have been told  it is a problem with the module/driver and the udev implementation on 12.0418:08
rt2500pcion the ubuntu laptop (the one which is giving me grief with the rt2500pci PCMCIA card) i  did apt-get install openssh-server. Now what shall i do?18:11
tomatopotatonow accsess the laptop with a 2nd computer trough terminal "ssh username@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx."18:14
tomatopotatowhere xxx is the ip address from the computer which you have to accsess rt2500pci18:15
rt2500pcithe laptop with debian is 192.168.1.8 but the ubuntu laptop's wireless interface (wlan1) does NOT have an ip address nor is associated with any wireless network18:20
tomatopotatocan you connect it with a lan cable rt2500pci?18:23
tomatopotatof not then it will no really help, or maybe if you had any othercard or usb wifi dongle that you could use temporarely which will work18:23
rt2500pciNO. i do not have a LAN cable. i connect to internet using my local cafe wireless. NO, i do not have physical access to their router and the  staff will  NOT let me get anywhere near their router. I do NOT have internet at home18:25
tomatopotatook, hold the horses18:26
rt2500pcisorry but they are the osmonds18:28
tomatopotatorun "sudo udevadm"18:30
tomatopotatomean run "sudo udevadm monitor"18:30
rt2500pcibefore or after inserting the rt2500pci PCMCIA card?18:31
tomatopotatobefore18:31
tomatopotatoand?18:34
tomatopotatowhat does it say?18:34
rt2500pciit is displaying a lot of tech info on the terminal. May i just do " sudo udevadm monitor" > output.txt  ???18:36
tomatopotatoi guess18:37
rt2500pciand then pastebin the contents of output.txt ?18:37
tomatopotatoyeah but, did you insert the card? and did some additional info come out?18:38
rt2500pcii inserted the card18:39
tomatopotatoand this time it did not restart?18:39
tomatopotatopastebin it18:40
rt2500pcithe laptop locked up18:42
tomatopotatobtw. this card you like to use, it worked on the same computer with diferent system?18:42
tomatopotatoor diferent computer?18:42
rt2500pcino, it worked on another laptop which has debian instead of 12.0418:44
tomatopotatoim asking because if it was different computer it might be the slot, or maybe an voltage issue18:44
rt2500pcithe laptop has 2 PCMCIA slots and both of them worked ok with other cards18:45
tomatopotatook then it still can be an voltge  difference18:45
rt2500pciif it is a voltage issue, how can i overcome it?18:46
tomatopotatoif its that then you cant18:46
tomatopotatoyou need a compatible card in that case18:46
tomatopotatoyou need to check how much your pcmcia slots suply power18:47
tomatopotatoand how much your card needs18:47
rt2500pcithe rt2500pci PCMCIA card's Power Rating is 3,3V. It says say on its sticker18:49
tomatopotatoandthe slot?18:50
rt2500pcithe rt2500pci PCMCIA card's Power Rating is 3.3V. It says say on its sticker18:50
rt2500pcihow can  find out how much power my  pcmcia slots supply?18:51
tomatopotatomanufacturer specs of the pc18:51
rt2500pciany command that can help me find out?18:51
tomatopotatoi dont think so, but might be i just dont know18:52
tomatopotatoif the slots are like 5V only, then this is your problem18:52
tomatopotatowhats your hardware18:53
tomatopotatowhat pc18:53
tomatopotatomdel no18:53
tomatopotatomanuf18:53
knome!enter | tomatopotato18:53
ubottutomatopotato: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!18:53
tomatopotatoapologies18:54
rt2500pciDell Latitude C60018:54
tomatopotatoexact name defenition of your card please rt2500pci18:57
rt2500pciDell Latitude C600 specs on DELL's website says :  Cards supported 3.3-V and 5-V18:57
tomatopotatois your card a typeIII card?18:58
rt2500pciFCC ID: NDD957108040419:00
tomatopotatowho is the manufacturer of your card19:00
tomatopotatoand the exact modelnumber19:01
tomatopotatort2500pci: if its type 3 you must use the lower card slot the uper one will not work19:12
rt2500pciEdimax Cardbus Wireless LAN  EW-7108PCg19:28
tomatopotatort2500pci: did you try the lower slot_?19:32
rt2500pciEdimax Cardbus Wireless LAN  EW-7108PCg19:47
rt2500pcihttp://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=5&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=4419:47
rt2500pcitomatopotato, upper or lower slot the problem remains the same19:52
tomatopotatohrmm dont really know further19:52
tomatopotatowait19:52
tomatopotatobooting from live cd and using the pcmcia card does that change anything?19:53
rt2500pciyou mean from a live cd other than *buntu? i do not have any live CDs. can try booting from usb with the help of plop boot manager19:55
tomatopotatodid you try it with ubuntu?20:02
tomatopotatoxubuntu?20:02
rt2500pciubuntu live CD on  PIII with 256MB RAM laptop refuses to boot up. too little RAM. Alternate ISO is not an option either because it is used for installing the OS not for testing it20:05
tomatopotatowell then try xubuntu20:10
rt2500pciok. thanks for your time. will be back later20:13
tomatopotatoyour welcome20:14
john__Hi, i'm currently running xfce 4.10 and i'm very happy! It's fast, stable and quite configurable but there are some things i'm missing. One of them is a menu editor. Is there any menu editor that works with this version? thanks in advance.21:23
jcfpjohn__: alacarte? installed by default on xubuntu iirc21:34
john__jcfp, i tried but does not work21:35
john__as far as i remember xfce had a menu editor21:45
heoyealxmed menu editor22:02
john__thanks and menuprops but none of them are perfect22:11
mimisicu30hi everyone22:14
john__menuprops is ok, the only issue i have with it, i can't add items in top level menu22:40
john__anyway better than nothing22:40

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