[00:13] <Darkwing> Riddell: ping
[00:13] <Riddell> hi Darkwing 
[00:13] <Darkwing> Riddell: Care for a darkwing
[00:13] <Darkwing> PM rather
[00:14] <Riddell> I always care for Darkwing :)
[00:14] <Darkwing> :D :D
[00:27] <Darkwing> Riddell: Where is the breakdown and stuff for Ringtail?
[00:31] <Jekyll> Is there a list of additional kded modules installed in kubuntu ?
[00:32] <Jekyll> I'm looking at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303722. All reporters are using (k)ubuntu
[00:37] <Riddell> Darkwing: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-raring-flavor-kubuntu is the work items
[00:37] <Darkwing> Thanks. :D
[00:37]  * Riddell spots 4.9.90 on ftpmaster
[00:39] <Riddell> Jekyll: Muon
[00:39] <Riddell> Netification Helper maybe
[00:39] <Riddell> Print Manager maybe
[00:39] <Riddell> Wacon Tablet
[00:40] <Riddell> Color daemon
[00:40] <Riddell> are the ones not from KDE SC
[00:40] <Riddell> I think
[00:44] <Darkwing> To the KC... I am not Darkwing on LP... I'm david.wonderly
[00:45] <Darkwing> I have no clue who darkwing is.
[00:45] <Riddell> you should trademark the name to stop someone else taking it
[00:45] <Darkwing> ROFL
[00:45] <Darkwing> That was done to me once tehehehe
[01:58] <blackcrack> hy peoples, i have try out you Distro and have found a bug
[01:59] <blackcrack> it is in konqueror..
[02:00] <blackcrack> 1. change you workspace look  to Directory (/home/$USER/Workspace)
[02:00] <blackcrack> 2. right mouseklick
[02:00] <blackcrack> 3. open workspace with Konqueror
[02:01] <blackcrack> and you become ver hundert konqueror Window's open
[02:01] <blackcrack> err: over
[02:01] <blackcrack> Kubuntu versin, the Actual one, last day downloaded..
[02:01] <blackcrack> and updatet
[02:02] <blackcrack> it's a bad bug, anyone should bugfixing it..or i go back to mandriva
[02:03] <blackcrack> best regards and a wonderful day :D
[03:22] <ScottK> yofel: I checked and the libkabc symbol changes are from the ABI break fix.  What I don't get is why the same problem didn't come up with 4.9.3 once we added the patch?
[07:53] <shadeslayer> it's re install kubuntu day :(
[07:54]  * shadeslayer always hates re install kubuntu day
[08:06] <jussi> shadeslayer: heh, I havent done that for a long time...
[08:07] <shadeslayer> yeah, I'm known to have made historically bad choices wrt to hardware
[08:07] <shadeslayer> so I have to jump through hoops
[08:08] <shadeslayer> :(
[08:08] <shadeslayer> I also need to completley wipe the disk, so have to sync everything to a external disc
[08:26] <apachelogger> !find XTest.h
[08:30] <jussi> shadeslayer: have fun with that...
[08:30] <shadeslayer> :P
[08:31] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: btw you should port pgst to gst1.0
[08:31] <apachelogger> port/QA
[08:31] <shadeslayer> LOL
[08:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: does pgst use QtGstreamer or gst directly?
[08:32] <apachelogger> http://paste.kde.org/618788/
[08:32]  * apachelogger totally thinks about introducing a meta package
[08:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: gst
[08:32] <shadeslayer> >.>
[08:33] <apachelogger> ?
[08:39] <jussi> someone should write a nice simple gui which uses convert and pdftk for manipulating pdf's. simple stuff like adding or removing pages, bringing in pictures etc. and dont anyone mention that abomination that is called pdfedit...
[10:02] <apachelogger> bug #905147
[11:08]  * Riddell runs automation script on 4.9.90
[11:26] <apachelogger> ScottK: oh btw, KDE4_BUILD_TESTS via configure did not work because you need to pass that per-package
[11:26] <apachelogger> i.e. KDE4_BUILD_TESTS is an option in kde4internal which is included by all kde4 cmake projects, overriding it in the configure of kdelibs will only turn it off for that particular source
[11:29] <apachelogger> also I disapprove of the patch naming
[11:31] <apachelogger> +	    ) + i18n("<p>Kubuntu includes additions and alterations to the KDE translation from <a href=\"https://translations.launchpad.net/\">Launchpad</a>.</p>");
[11:31] <apachelogger> it's funny because I am resonable certain that will end up not being translated as we don't have translations going :D
[11:32] <apachelogger> hooray
[11:32] <apachelogger> Riddell: did we have a plan for that?
[11:48] <apachelogger> kde4libs (4:4.9.90-0ubuntu2) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
[11:48] <apachelogger> oh
[11:48] <apachelogger> lol, my new changelog script is bugged
[11:50]  * apachelogger dep3'd our qt and kdelibs patches
[11:50] <apachelogger> Riddell: I think former has yet again loads of stuff that should go upstream
[11:52] <apachelogger> debfx: yofel_: shadeslayer: if you feel hackish ... a script dep3-parsing all patches of bzr tracked packages and spitting out html would be cool
[11:52] <yofel_> hm... sounds interesting
[12:12] <Riddell> apachelogger: it's a work item to fix translations for that
[12:12] <Riddell> but it can be removed now
[12:12] <Riddell> since we don't use Launchpad
[12:16] <apachelogger> Riddell: well, we need to use launchpad for kubuntu specific apps/changes
[12:20] <Riddell> true
[12:32] <yofel> apachelogger: <simplew> by the way in kate.desktop apepars the same entry twice, InitialPreference=9   and in last last: InitialPreference=8
[12:32] <yofel> seems like kubuntu_kate_initial_preference.patch is obsolete? Or I don't understand what that setting does
[12:33] <Riddell> or incomplete
[12:33] <Riddell> what does the changelog say?
[12:33] <Riddell> it's the patch to stop libreoffice opening text files no?
[12:33] <yofel> should be: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate/view/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_kate_initial_preference.patch
[12:35] <Riddell> oh it lowers the preference, that'll mean it's obsolete yes
[12:35] <Riddell> if a InitialPreference=9 has been added since that patch
[12:35] <yofel> but yeah, that's the patch that apachelogger restored to fix bug #1062086
[12:43] <apachelogger> yofel: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kate.git&a=commit&h=5f317af72e50c83a5e7238bc9060154060c289cf
[12:43] <apachelogger> obsolete for 4.10
[12:45] <yofel> ah ok, so we can drop it for 4.9.90
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:18] <rbelem> hi Riddell 
[13:19] <Riddell> hi rbelem 
[13:19] <rbelem> Riddell: did you have a chance to take a look at the icecc package? :-)
[13:21] <Riddell> rbelem: yep, it's uploaded to raring https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/icecc
[13:21] <rbelem> Riddell: awesum! :-)
[13:21] <rbelem> thanks Riddell 
[13:22] <rbelem> Riddell: soon I will have plasma active stuff for you to review :-D
[13:23]  * rbelem hugs Riddell
[13:23]  * rbelem runs to work
[13:33] <shadeslayer> oh
[13:33] <shadeslayer> rbelem: are you working on PA3?
[13:33] <shadeslayer> if so, then I'll hold off on packaging it
[13:33] <ScottK> apachelogger: I finally figured that out, which is why I patched it away, so we didn't need to change everything.
[13:34] <simplew> yofel: when running 'sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth'  and changing theme, isnt also to change the grub theme?
[13:35] <yofel> that would be default.plymouth.grub I would guess
[13:35] <shadeslayer> mini.iso is broken :(
[13:36] <shadeslayer> doesn't go further than trying to detect partitions
[13:36] <simplew> yofel: currently i have a different theme in grub that the one that apepars in boot
[13:37] <yofel> if you only changed one setting that's the likely result
[13:37] <simplew> yofel: what you mean?
[13:37] <yofel> default.plymouth != default.plymouth.grub
[13:38]  * Riddell throws 4.9.90 in ninjas
[13:38] <simplew> yofel: i theres no such default.plymouth.grub in update-alternatives
[13:39] <apachelogger> ScottK: k, if that is what we want ^^
[13:39] <yofel> oh, I was going from the symlink but I guess the config is the same
[13:39] <yofel> I'm no expert on plymouth
[13:40] <ScottK> apachelogger: I think it is.  It's not stuff for distros that ends up getting builts (and calligra doesn't build at all, but we could override that one package if that was the only thing)
[13:41] <apachelogger> well, validated quality is probably in our interest
[13:42] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what's mini.iso
[13:42] <yofel> apachelogger: netinst
[13:42] <shadeslayer> netinstaller 
[13:42] <apachelogger> oh and that is broken?
[13:42] <apachelogger> on raring?
[13:42] <shadeslayer> yep
[13:47] <BluesKaj> think thew alternate installer is broken as well
[13:57] <shadeslayer> whee ubiquity crashes on the first try 
[13:57] <ScottK> Since we don't have alternates anymore, not an interest of ours.
[13:59] <shadeslayer> kdeinit can't launch konsole 
[14:01] <ScottK> Not good.
[14:16] <kubuntuslayer> :>
[14:17] <kubuntuslayer> anywho, ubiquity is stucketh
[14:23]  * BluesKaj looks at trying out the 3.7-rc7 kernel for 12.10
[14:26] <kubuntuslayer> brrr, spotty network
[14:41] <kubuntuslayer> bug 1085991 for anyone who's interested
[14:42] <Riddell> wibble
[14:43]  * kubuntuslayer wouldn't have the slightest idea as to where the issue is tbh :P
[14:43]  * kubuntuslayer wonders if there's an alternative way to install
[14:46] <xnox> kubuntuslayer: unplug your yubikey?
[14:46] <kubuntuslayer> does that matter? :P
[14:46] <xnox> =)
[14:46] <kubuntuslayer> I actually plugged it in when I was reporting the bug
[14:46] <xnox> kubuntuslayer: ah, fair enough.
[14:47] <xnox> kubuntuslayer: yeah 4 minute delay.
[14:47] <kubuntuslayer> *nod* 
[14:47] <kubuntuslayer> and this is why we should have a weekly cadence :P
[14:48] <xnox> looks like kubuntu specific bug
[14:48] <kubuntuslayer> hmm
[14:49] <apachelogger> the fact that debian-installer also got stuck makes me think it is a rohan specific bug :P
[14:49] <kubuntuslayer> heh, I was about to say that I think it's a partman bug :P
[14:49] <kubuntuslayer> since d-i also failed at trying to detect disks
[14:50]  * kubuntuslayer installs the gtk frontend to check
[14:50] <apachelogger> oh it is stuck at the same stage?
[14:50] <kubuntuslayer> apachelogger: afaict
[14:50] <kubuntuslayer> doesn't the disk stuff come after "Preparing to install Kubuntu" >
[14:50] <apachelogger> yeah, that sounds a lot like a subsystem bug then
[14:51] <apachelogger> kubuntuslayer: in case you had not noticed, but there is a list of steps on the left hand side :P
[14:51] <kubuntuslayer> lemme just confirm with the gtk frontend
[14:51] <kubuntuslayer>  oh yeah
[14:51] <kubuntuslayer> xD
[14:51] <kubuntuslayer> then yes, seems like a partman bug
[14:52] <kubuntuslayer> ok, lemme wipe my disk and check if that makes it work
[14:54] <kubuntuslayer> yay partitionmanager doesn't work as well
[14:54] <kubuntuslayer> well ... can't delete partitions atleast
[14:56] <apachelogger> I still think your hardware is causing it though
[14:58] <kubuntuslayer>  let's see
[15:15] <kubuntuslayer> Deleted all partitions, rebooted and voila it works fine
[15:15] <kubuntuslayer> so very weird
[15:16] <kubuntuslayer> let's see if the lvm + encryption stuff works :P
[15:17] <kubuntuslayer> "Web browsers such as Firefox and Google's Chromium are easily installable." -> "Web browsers such as Firefox and Chromium are easily installable."
[15:18] <kubuntuslayer> or if you want to keep Google in there, use Mozilla's Firefox
[15:19] <Riddell> kubuntuslayer: who is "you"?
[15:20] <kubuntuslayer> :P
[15:21] <Riddell> it's not really Google's Chromium since the point of chromium is it's the non-google supplied version
[15:21] <kubuntuslayer> right
[15:21] <kubuntuslayer> which is why I suggested removing Google from there 
[15:23] <kubuntuslayer> oh hah
[15:23] <kubuntuslayer> clicking on kubuntu.org/support and kubuntu.org/community doesn't do anything :P
[15:23] <Quintasan> sup
[15:23] <kubuntuslayer> ( from within the installer )
[15:24] <kubuntuslayer> Quintasan: fix ubiquity
[15:25] <Quintasan> how about you fix it?
[15:25] <kubuntuslayer> no, I'm the one QA'ing it
[15:25] <Quintasan> I ain't touching Python
[15:25] <kubuntuslayer> :P
[15:25] <Quintasan> Unless you pay me
[15:26] <Quintasan> and even then I will still be unhappy to touch it.
[15:26] <kubuntuslayer> 1 polish zotty for every bug you fix?
[15:26] <Tm_T> we're getting to that again, are we?
[15:27] <apachelogger> that is like 0.02 euros
[15:27] <apachelogger> if you fix a 1000 bugs you can buy an entertainment movie
[15:27]  * yofel hasn't signed the contributor agreement so can't fix it
[15:27] <Quintasan> apachelogger: See, I told you he is insane
[15:28] <apachelogger> assuming you'd want to watch a movie a day you'd be out of bugs in one week
[15:28] <apachelogger> sounds like bad business
[15:28] <apachelogger> you'd put yourself out of a job and prn to watch
[15:28] <Quintasan> kubuntuslayer: I'll work 100 euro per bug and I fix whichever bug I want
[15:28] <Quintasan> Deal?
[15:30] <kubuntuslayer> lol
[15:30]  * apachelogger notes that a lot of bugs actually result in theoretical manhour costs of >100 EUR if dealt with by a developer
[15:31] <Quintasan> I see what you did there?
[15:31] <Quintasan> minus question mark
[15:31] <apachelogger> I am not sure you did :P
[15:33] <_dns__> Libreoffice is ugly in KDE, does anybody know how to teak ?
[15:33] <_dns__> *tweak
[15:33] <kubuntuslayer> use calligra? :P
[15:33] <kubuntuslayer> why is this downloading lang packs
[15:34] <apachelogger> hmmm
[15:34] <apachelogger> no apol when you need him
[15:34] <kubuntuslayer> and ofcourse the "x" button doesn't do anything, fun :P
[15:35] <apachelogger> oh
[15:35] <apachelogger> I noticed that yesterday too
[15:35] <kubuntuslayer> yeah, I think it's been that way for the last 3 releases or such
[15:35] <kubuntuslayer> and beforeler that it used to crash the instal
[15:35] <kubuntuslayer> *and before that it used to crash the installer
[15:36] <apachelogger> all hail the X
[15:36] <apachelogger> oh
[15:36] <apachelogger> there is subtle truth in that
[15:36] <kubuntuslayer> :P
[15:37] <kubuntuslayer> bbl
[15:37] <apachelogger> does anyone have sound in pairs?
[15:39] <_dns__> Libreoffice is shitty, and google services are not stable where I live.
[15:39] <apachelogger> use calligra then?
[15:45] <yofel> libreoffice looks ~ok IMO with oxygen-gtk
[15:47] <_dns__> it looks terrible if you use black theme
[15:50] <yofel> true, but tolerable as long as you set the document background to white
[15:55] <ScottK> Riddell: These are the images we want for Alpha 1, right? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/247/builds
[15:55]  * Riddell looks
[15:55]  * ScottK will do better with the version number next time.
[15:55] <Riddell> do we care about amd64+mac?
[15:55] <ScottK> If someone tests it, I guess.
[15:55] <ScottK> If not, I'm not going to worry.
[15:56] <Riddell> ScottK: did you add those to the iso tracker manually?
[15:56] <ScottK> Riddell: yes. 
[15:56] <Riddell> ScottK: they get posted automatically when the cd builder builds them
[15:56] <ScottK> Through the administration U/I on the web page.
[15:56] <ScottK> Only once the milestone is active.
[15:56] <Riddell> mm right
[15:56] <ScottK> I had to set up the Alpha 1 milestone.
[16:06] <ScottK> claydoh: Can you do Alpha 1 release notes?  The big news is KDE SC 4.10 Beta 1.
[16:10] <Riddell> from kpat: Copyright (C) 1995 Paul Olav Tvete <paul@troll.no>  that has to be one of the oldest copyrights in KDE
[16:12] <ScottK> :-)
[16:14] <soee> any news about beta backport :>
[16:15] <ScottK> Plan is still after Beta 2 is packaged.
[16:15] <ScottK> We need more people working on developing Kubuntu.
[16:15] <soee> :(
[16:16]  * ScottK stares hard at soee.
[16:16]  * ScottK checks to see if he gets the hint.
[16:17] <soee> :)
[16:21] <ScottK> soee: Seriously.  We need volunteers and you don't need to know a lot to get started.
[16:27] <Riddell> afiestas: looks like you're the mystery man behind ktuberling/playgrounddelegate.cpp ?  it has no copyright name and is GPL 3 against KDE polity (a template header from somewhere?)
[16:28] <ScottK> Which I think is waiting on the kpythonpluginfactory port to python3.
[16:29] <afiestas> Riddell: will relicence asap
[16:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ScottK I possibly just tested the amd64+mac image 
[16:30] <ScottK> ;-)
[16:31] <shadeslayer> need to confirm if its the same image as the one in the link you posted ;)
[16:33] <shadeslayer> currently stuck on running postinst trigger of update-notifier-common 
[16:39] <ScottK> shadeslayer: It's the current image.
[16:39] <shadeslayer> hmm ubiquity seems stuck
[16:41] <ScottK> Which package is the slideshow in?
[16:42] <shadeslayer> ubiquity-slideshow-Kubuntu ?
[16:43] <shadeslayer> ok, I get to install all over again 
[16:47] <ScottK> Thanks.
[16:56] <Riddell> ScottK: we're trend setters (edubuntu following us)
[16:57] <highvoltage> hehe
[16:57] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:58] <highvoltage> well, I wanted to originally, but stgraber concinved me that it's too much paper work. so I said I actually want to do it and will take care of the paper work. so stgraber said it's fine unless he doesn't have to do any of it.
[16:59] <highvoltage> all I'm doing though is the release announcement which includes recent changes and known issues
[17:00] <Riddell> what's the paperwork?  an e-mail to ubuntu-devel-announce is about it
[17:00] <Riddell> the release page but we use that for our final announcement so it's a timesaver in the end
[17:02] <Riddell> weird, palapeli is 2.8MB of files but a git history that's 131MB
[17:02] <shadeslayer> lol
[17:03] <shadeslayer> run gc on it ?
[17:03] <shadeslayer> ( git compress )
[17:05]  * yofel always read that as garbage collect
[17:05] <shadeslayer> :p
[17:05] <shadeslayer> ok installation completed
[17:06] <agateau> I think it actually means garbage collect
[17:16]  * shadeslayer marks amd64+mac as done
[17:19] <ScottK> jtechidna: Would you please take a quick look at Bug #1086047 and let me know if there's any additional information I should get from the system before I kill it off (I'll reinstall it as part of Alpha 1 testing).
[17:20] <jtechidna> ScottK: Oh, I've got a fix for that in git master
[17:21] <ScottK> jtechidna: Any chance you could upload it today so we could have it working for Alpha 1?
[17:21] <JontheEchidna> sure
[17:21] <ScottK> Thanks.  Please close that bug in changelog, so the book-keeping works out.
[17:21] <JontheEchidna> I was planning on doing a proper release tomorrow, but I'll apply the patch today.
[17:28] <ScottK> Thanks.
[17:28] <JontheEchidna> no problem
[17:29] <shadeslayer> hmm .. wasn't the desktop supposed to have that fancy animation thing for plasmoids in 4.9.80
[17:29] <shadeslayer> the thing that active had
[17:33] <PaulW2U> 12
[17:33] <PaulW2U> 12
[17:33] <PaulW2U> oops sorry :)
[17:44] <ScottK> yofel: The kdepimlibs symbols change for libkabc is in the 4.9.3 package in proposed now, so just grab that and use it (with updated changelog) for 4.9.4.
[17:45] <highvoltage> Riddell: regarding the paperwork, it actually doesn't seem that much to me either
[17:51] <Riddell> 4.9.90: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-ppa-build-status.html
[17:51] <ScottK> Riddell: I think we should respin for JontheEchidna's qapt-batch fix, so no need to turn off the cron job for image building yet.
[17:52] <Riddell> ScottK: generally it's not turned off until the tuesday anyway no?
[17:53] <ScottK> Yes, but since it's just us and Edubuntu, I figure if we want to be different, we can.
[18:04] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: qapt failed on armfh due to a Chroot problem. anything I can do about that?
[18:04] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Bad builder.  I'll take care of it.
[18:05] <JontheEchidna> ok, thanks
[18:05] <ScottK> Generally you can just retry those.
[18:05] <ScottK> If you hit a different builder it'll be fine.
[18:05] <ScottK> Sometimes on the same builder it's fine too.
[18:21] <yofel> ScottK: oh, so just the symbols file wasn't updated? ok
[18:22] <ScottK> yofel: Yes.
[18:22] <ScottK> There's one new symbol in the other package, but I think that's fine.
[18:23] <rbelem> shadeslayer: yup
[18:24] <shadeslayer> rbelem: do you have an ETA?
[18:25] <rbelem> shadeslayer: i think that until the weekend i will upload the first batch to the kubuntu-active ppa
[18:25] <yofel> are the active patches for kdelibs and workspace already in?
[18:25] <shadeslayer> ah cool
[18:25] <yofel> haven't looked at them
[18:25] <shadeslayer> note that the metapackage is broken
[18:25] <shadeslayer> as are some other things
[18:25] <rbelem> yofel: probably not
[18:31] <ScottK> yofel: Now.
[18:31] <ScottK> s/Now/No/
[18:31] <kubotu> ScottK meant: "yofel: No."
[18:50] <JontheEchidna> off to afternoon class, bbl
[18:51] <ScottK> Riddell: You uploaded kdepimlibs 4.9.90 to the archive instead of ninjas.
[18:51]  * ScottK removes.
[19:36] <Riddell> ScottK: erk
[19:36] <Riddell> ScottK: did you catch it in time?
[19:36] <ScottK> Yes
[19:37] <ScottK> It wouldn't build, so it was stuck in proposed
[19:37] <ScottK> So it's gone like it ~never happened.
[19:38] <Riddell> ScottK: thanks :)
[19:38] <ScottK> No problem.
[19:38] <Riddell> I'll try that again to the right place
[20:00] <yofel> Riddell: why do you insist on having to specify the distversion by hand in kubuntu-initial-upload?
[20:43] <ScottK> Riddell: i386 test cases look good: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/247/builds/29232/testcases
[20:43] <ScottK> It'd be nice if someone could try the non-english test case.
[20:43] <ScottK> I won't be around for testing tomorrow.
[21:11] <yofel> ok, 4.9.4 seems good to go for quantal
[21:17] <ScottK> Cool.
[21:17] <ScottK> Running 4.9.3 from -proposed and it seems all good here.
[21:22] <soee> can test 4.9.4 just give me ppa :) / Quantal 64bit here currently running 4.9.3
[21:32] <ScottK> soee: Do you have a launchpad account?
[21:33] <soee> ScottK, i have i think but havent used for a long time
[21:34] <ScottK> It's be good if you could figure it out.
[21:35] <soee> ah yes: https://launchpad.net/~soee
[21:36] <soee> hmm there is no way to change email?
[21:36] <soee> the one used there is a bit outdated
[21:36] <ScottK> soee: Ask in #launchpad.
[21:37] <ScottK> soee: Can you log into your account?
[21:38] <tsimpson> https://launchpad.net/~/+editemails
[21:39] <soee> uhm looks like i have 2 accounts as the new email is already used :)
[21:39] <soee> one moment
[21:41] <tsimpson> you can merge accounts if you have access to both emails
[21:42] <ScottK> http://evangotlib.tumblr.com/post/36854561360/evan-buys-a-microsoft-surface
[21:42] <ScottK> ;-)
[21:42] <soee> tsimpson, true i can login on both
[21:42] <soee> how can i merge the,
[21:42] <tsimpson> soee: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/Merging tells you how
[21:42] <soee> to stay with login id: soee
[21:43] <tsimpson> just make sure you're logged into the account you want to keep, then follow the instructions
[21:45] <soee> The accounts have been merged successfully. Everything that belonged to the duplicated account should now belong to your own account.
[21:45] <soee> -.-
[21:45] <yofel> wth. kcalc in 4.9.80: 560 * 0.3 = NaN o.O
[21:45] <soee> that was easy
[21:46] <ScottK> soee: Is soee the surviving account?
[21:46] <soee> https://launchpad.net/~soee
[21:46] <soee> yes
[22:05] <Riddell> soee: hi, wanting to test 4.9.4?
[22:10] <soee> Riddell, i can try
[22:20] <soee> i already asked ScottK - who manage kubuntu.org website here ?
[22:21] <Riddell> soee: anyone with the password can edit bits, the theme is in bzr and it's on canonical's servers so beholden to their sysadmins bothering to do anything
[22:22] <soee> and who decide how the website look, what content have etc?
[22:24] <yofel> we, but any theme changes need to go through the canonical sysadmins
[22:25] <soee> hmm
[22:25] <Riddell> soee: the theme is in bzr
[22:25] <Riddell> lp:~kubuntu-website/kubuntu-website/kubuntu.org
[22:25] <soee> what is bzr ?
[22:25] <yofel> !bzr
[22:27] <soee> so something like git ?
[22:28] <yofel> yes
[22:29] <Riddell> but usable :)
[22:29] <soee> ok so as i already told ScottK 
[22:30] <soee> im a PHP developer and i can always help with website
[22:30] <yofel> Riddell: that's debatable ;P
[22:31] <soee> and if you are interested with new, modern websote design - this can be done :)
[22:31] <soee> but im not sure if you want to change tehre anything
[22:35] <soee> brb rebooting after upgrade
[22:39] <soee> Upgrade 4.9.3 => 4.9.4 without any problems
[22:39] <ScottK> Nice.
[22:40] <ScottK> soee: In addition to your interest in the web site, we need help with other stuff, I'm sure you're up to.
[22:40] <Riddell> lovely
[22:40] <Riddell> soee: there are tasks to be done on the website which are less of a big job than changing the whole theme, like merging the two download pages
[22:46] <soee> ok we talk more tomorrow
[23:48] <ronnoc_> Any chance Kubuntu Active will be useable on http://www.pcworld.com/article/2018343/the-true-linux-pengpod-line-will-ship-in-january.html? If so I'll order this month and test it :)
[23:48] <ronnoc_> Opps http://www.pcworld.com/article/2018343/the-true-linux-pengpod-line-will-ship-in-january.html
[23:58] <ScottK> Should be.